The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 890 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Filter cleaning/ was Re: Oiling ITG Filter? Re: Snow tires E46 Re: Snow tires E46 Noise from the back of the car Re: Noise from the back of the car Re: Noise from the back of the car Dinan Chips Re: Dinan Chips Re: Dinan Chips Re: Dinan Chips Re: Dinan Chips Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) <E46> Throttle control Re: <E46> Throttle control
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:16:43 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Dorffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Filter cleaning/ was Re: Oiling ITG Filter? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A good spraying with Castrol Super Clean mixed 4:1 has worked better on > K&N's and Pipercrosses than the special filter cleaning solutions. > Better on wheels than the Zymol Brite too. Be very careful with Castrol Super Clean, it is very strong, capable of eating non-clear coat paint or staining it. Also removes adhesive so it may be too strong for the ITG filter. I like it, but I am careful with using it freely after experiencing some issues. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:14:13 -0800 From: "Reed Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Snow tires E46 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nick brearley > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [UUC] Snow tires E46 > > At 07:12 08/12/05 -0800, Carlos Lopez wrote: > > >Anyway, I have Pirelli Snowsports on the E36 M3 and Dunlop > Graspics on > >the E30 325i, I would recommend both of those tires to anyone. > > I've had good results with the Pirelli P210 Snowsports on an > E36 325 for a couple of winters in the UK. We don't get the > spectacular snow you can get on occasion (Feb ' 03) but they > perform adequately on dry/damp roads and if snow comes they > are not fazed. > Another vote for the Pirelli's. I've used mine for 6 seasons now, and they're about shot, but the M3 has always handled great in the snow with them, and they're not bad on dry or wet roads, either. Reed/Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:03:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Snow tires E46 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I run(ran) Dunlop Winter Sport M2s on cheap-o Mille Miglia alloys (until I bailed out of Wisconsin for warmer weather). Was really happy with this. Decent in the dry, not much noise at all. Nice thing about the Mille Miglias was they were offset for M3 brakes, and with that were pushed more towards the outside of the car (which made the car look better with skinny snows). - k --- original message --- From: "Della Barba, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Snow tires E46 I just got a set of 16" steel rims for my car. Does anyone have a suggestion for snow tires that are not too expensive and also won't torment me too badly when it isn't snowing? Here in Maryland we don't usually get much snow, but every now and then we get a few big storms to make up for it. I survived for about 9 years with an MR2 on summer or all season tires year-round, but now I don't have an engine sitting on top of the drive wheels any more I guess I need the snow tires. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:34:20 -0600 From: "Craig Robson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Noise from the back of the car Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All: I am getting a binding noise from the back of the car that is starting to make me worry. At first, I figured it was just he LSD unwinding or something nonissue, but it is getting worse I believe. It happens only under two conditions. First, if I am driving at a constant throttle and speed (not necessarily either alone), or secondly, if I am turning in either direction, although left seems to do it quicker/more. If am coasting or accelerating, it doesn't do it, and if I push the clutch in while turning, it is severly reduced. It sounds like something gets super tight in a bushing and then suddenly releases. It makes a low frequency moaning noise, low enough that it could come out of a subwoofer, a really big one because it shakes the car just a tad. It also goes in and out. In turns, it does it regularly. In a straight line, well it takes a second to build up then does it for a second, then stops and starts over again. Of course, the throttle could be increasing or decreasing enough to make it stop for a bit, but I think I am originally correct. Also, this is just a theory, as I haven't been on a road trip in a while, but I think it stops doing it completely if I go relatively straight for a while. I mostly notice it after completing a turn for a while and then it subdues. It used to only do it in really tight turns, like parking. Is this something that I need to get fixed tomorrow, or something normal (I can't imagine it being normal), or need not worry about. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Craig Robson 01 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 22:04:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Noise from the back of the car Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Craig, I have an E36 M3, and I get an unusual moaning noise from the back of my car also when I take tight turns. I haven't nailed it down to turning in a particular direction; I think it does it both ways. I think that the noise has just started in the last month or so, I don't think I'd have been detached enough from the car to not notice it for long before that. My old E36 325 had this same noise too, and I was never able to figure out what it was. In my old car, I changed the diff fluid thinking that was the cause, but it still lingered. Maybe bushings starting to wear out? The 325 definitely needed some new bushings; I am heading up on 100K on my M3 pretty soon, so maybe it's about time for a bushing renewal on this one also. In any case, I've been of no help to you. Let me know if you find out anything about your car. Brian 95 M3 --- Craig Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All: > I am getting a binding noise from the back of > the car that is starting > to make me worry. At first, I figured it was just he > LSD unwinding or > something nonissue, but it is getting worse I > believe. It happens only under > two conditions. First, if I am driving at a constant > throttle and speed (not > necessarily either alone), or secondly, if I am > turning in either direction, > although left seems to do it quicker/more. If am > coasting or accelerating, > it doesn't do it, and if I push the clutch in while > turning, it is severly > reduced. It sounds like something gets super tight > in a bushing and then > suddenly releases. It makes a low frequency moaning > noise, low enough that > it could come out of a subwoofer, a really big one > because it shakes the car > just a tad. It also goes in and out. In turns, it > does it regularly. In a > straight line, well it takes a second to build up > then does it for a second, > then stops and starts over again. Of course, the > throttle could be > increasing or decreasing enough to make it stop for > a bit, but I think I am > originally correct. Also, this is just a theory, as > I haven't been on a road > trip in a while, but I think it stops doing it > completely if I go relatively > straight for a while. I mostly notice it after > completing a turn for a while > and then it subdues. It used to only do it in really > tight turns, like > parking. > > Is this something that I need to get fixed tomorrow, > or something normal (I > can't imagine it being normal), or need not worry > about. Any help would be > greatly appreciated. > > Craig Robson > 01 M3 > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:56:13 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Noise from the back of the car Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The drone from the rear of my E36 //M3 turned out to be the differential, but that drone was constant and didn't change during maneuvering or braking. In dropping the diff, I decided to go further and drop the subframe, and install Powerflex urethane subframe bushings (they're a nice purple color, too(<:), dlerin diff mounts, and adjustable lower control arms, too. Possible less considered causes of the groan also could be the exhaust rubbing the tire, the tire rubbing the inner fender well, loose underside sound insulation foam or exhaust heat shields, or a loose or binding parking brake shoe. To check for the diff and other rear end sounds, jack the car on stands and put a floor jack under the subframe too, and chock in front and behind the front wheels, and anything else you need to do to feel safe about it, then prop the gas pedal down with the car in fifth gear so the wheels are spinning up to highway speeds. Then _carefully_ get under the car and listen around. Good luck, Barry Brian Ruiz wrote: >Craig, > >I have an E36 M3, and I get an unusual moaning noise >from the back of my car also when I take tight turns. >I haven't nailed it down to turning in a particular >direction; I think it does it both ways. I think that >the noise has just started in the last month or so, I >don't think I'd have been detached enough from the car >to not notice it for long before that. My old E36 325 >had this same noise too, and I was never able to >figure out what it was. In my old car, I changed the >diff fluid thinking that was the cause, but it still >lingered. Maybe bushings starting to wear out? The >325 definitely needed some new bushings; I am heading >up on 100K on my M3 pretty soon, so maybe it's about >time for a bushing renewal on this one also. In any >case, I've been of no help to you. Let me know if you >find out anything about your car. > >Brian >95 M3 > > >--- Craig Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>All: >> I am getting a binding noise from the back of >>the car that is starting >>to make me worry. At first, I figured it was just he >>LSD unwinding or >>something nonissue, but it is getting worse I >>believe. It happens only under >>two conditions. First, if I am driving at a constant >>throttle and speed (not >>necessarily either alone), or secondly, if I am >>turning in either direction, >>although left seems to do it quicker/more. If am >>coasting or accelerating, >>it doesn't do it, and if I push the clutch in while >>turning, it is severly >>reduced. It sounds like something gets super tight >>in a bushing and then >>suddenly releases. It makes a low frequency moaning >>noise, low enough that >>it could come out of a subwoofer, a really big one >>because it shakes the car >>just a tad. It also goes in and out. In turns, it >>does it regularly. In a >>straight line, well it takes a second to build up >>then does it for a second, >>then stops and starts over again. Of course, the >>throttle could be >>increasing or decreasing enough to make it stop for >>a bit, but I think I am >>originally correct. Also, this is just a theory, as >>I haven't been on a road >>trip in a while, but I think it stops doing it >>completely if I go relatively >>straight for a while. I mostly notice it after >>completing a turn for a while >>and then it subdues. It used to only do it in really >>tight turns, like >>parking. >>Is this something that I need to get fixed tomorrow, >>or something normal (I >>can't imagine it being normal), or need not worry >>about. Any help would be >>greatly appreciated. >>Craig Robson >>01 M3 >> >> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:48:08 -0800 (PST) From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Dinan Chips Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone have any dyno results from a stock 95 M3 after adding a Dinan chip? Most of my experience with chips and stock cars relates to OBII Mustangs, and generally proves that there is little to no improvement to be gained by them. I can purchase a Dinan chip on Ebay for about $60, but I just want to see if their claims are legit or not. Thanks, Paul 95 M3 (soon to have snow tires) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:26:35 -0800 From: "Paul M. Moriarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Dinan Chips Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> P Kroon writes: > Anyone have any dyno results from a stock 95 M3 after > adding a Dinan chip? Most of my experience with chips > and stock cars relates to OBII Mustangs, and generally > proves that there is little to no improvement to be > gained by them. I can purchase a Dinan chip on Ebay > for about $60, but I just want to see if their claims > are legit or not. My experience with their chips (E28 M5 and E34 540) are that they are legit. IMHO, you'll get a much bigger bang for your buck out of a driving school than you will out of a chip. - Paul - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:07:18 -0800 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Dinan Chips Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I bought a Dinan chip for my 95 M3 when I first had it, and could barely tell the difference. The only thing I noticed was that it seemed to smooth out one little dip in the power curve somewhat. Extra power? I doubt I was getting the extra 12 hp they advertise, but then I was running on Ca fuel. I agree with the last poster - more fun to spend money on driving school. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "P Kroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Brian Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: [UUC] Dinan Chips > Anyone have any dyno results from a stock 95 M3 after > adding a Dinan chip? Most of my experience with chips > and stock cars relates to OBII Mustangs, and generally > proves that there is little to no improvement to be > gained by them. I can purchase a Dinan chip on Ebay > for about $60, but I just want to see if their claims > are legit or not. > > Thanks, > > Paul > 95 M3 (soon to have snow tires) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:52:22 -0500 From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Dinan Chips Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not to start a Dinan bashing thread but I helped with a dyno session for a 95 M3 with a 95 M3 LTW motor using Dinan, Conforti and a custom chip. For that car on that dyno on that day, the dinan chip provided 0 ZERO, nada, nothing, no extra hp vs the conforti chip doing as advertised AND the custom chip providing another 9 hp. YMMV but other sources have echoed the same when tested on a dyno. I had a dinan chip in a 87 535is and could not tell a difference between it and stock but only did timed runs in 3rd gear. No improvement what so ever. Some claim to feel huge differences but then again so do 39% of any test group when given a placebo. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bmwuucdigest- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P Kroon > Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Brian Ruiz > Cc: UUC Digest > Subject: [UUC] Dinan Chips > > Anyone have any dyno results from a stock 95 M3 after > adding a Dinan chip? Most of my experience with chips > and stock cars relates to OBII Mustangs, and generally > proves that there is little to no improvement to be > gained by them. I can purchase a Dinan chip on Ebay > for about $60, but I just want to see if their claims > are legit or not. > > Thanks, > > Paul > 95 M3 (soon to have snow tires) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:42:00 -0800 From: "Bob Sutterfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Dinan Chips Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul wrote: > I can purchase a Dinan chip on Ebay for about $60, > but I just want to see if their claims are legit or not. <http://dinanbmw.com> makes fine chips. So do <http://sharked.com> and <http://dsylva-tech.ca> and likely others. They perform as advertised. Please don't buy chips on eBay. In the best case it will be as advertised, and you're getting pirated software. That means the chip developer is not being fairly compensated for their R&D and other expenses. But you have no way to tell what you're getting, and it could either (1) not run or (2) grenade your engine. How will you know? Who will redress your grievances? It's in the best interests of both yourself and legitimate chip developers, for you to buy directly from the tuner or their designated channels. So yes, Dinan's claims are legitimate, but that eBay chip almost certainly is not. -- Bob Sutterfield '86 E30 325e bronzitbeige-met '91 E30 318iS alpinweiß '83 E21 320i opalgrün-met (RIP, parting out) '93 T4 EV MV Weekender Arktisches Weiß BMWCCA #169277 GGC/RMC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:13:47 -0500 From: "Mitchell, Philip S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with the recommendations for name brand snow tires on your steel rims. We have been using Bridgestone Blizzaks on my girlfriends 2003 325ci since she bought it new with no problems, even for her! This will be the third winter on the tires since we have had them and they still look great. I put them on when the first forecast calling for significant snow airs (last Saturday) and take them off in March. My 740i gets by with the OEM Continentals all year round, so far without incident, but I have a very easy commute. Joe, I could have made you a deal on a new set of 16" TSW alloys that I purchased locally from Electrodyne for her car before I found a used set of alloys w/snows out in Arizona for about the same money. They are still sitting in their boxes in my garage waiting for a use. I also have a set of Michelin Alpin snows in 205/75R14s in excellent condition if anyone needs them on an older car. They are mounted on BMW steel wheels from an L7. Cheap. Phil Mitchell Wheaton, Maryland (301) 942-6059 h > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Della Barba, Joe" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:27 AM > Subject: [UUC] Snow tires E46 > > > > > > I just got a set of 16" steel rims for my car. > > Does anyone have a suggestion for snow tires that are not too expensive and > > also won't torment me too badly when it isn't snowing? Here in Maryland we > > don't usually get much snow, but every now and then we get a few big storms > > to make up for it. I survived for about 9 years with an MR2 on summer or all > > season tires year-round, but now I don't have an engine sitting on top of > > the drive wheels any more I guess I need the snow tires. > > > > Joe Della Barba '00 323iT > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:08:31 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: <E46> Throttle control Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Interesting tid-bit in a recent Bimmer article about Dinan's E46, M3 was that he doesn't use the AFM to gauge fuel but rather uses the throttle position. There was a reference to this being the norm on race cars. I guess this would make sense when each cylinder might have a separate intake. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:29:37 -0800 From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E46> Throttle control Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On my race car we use a TPS sender, a MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sender, and a wide band O2 sensor. Marco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] <E46> Throttle control Interesting tid-bit in a recent Bimmer article about Dinan's E46, M3 was that he doesn't use the AFM to gauge fuel but rather uses the throttle position. There was a reference to this being the norm on race cars. I guess this would make sense when each cylinder might have a separate intake. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
