The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 846 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: Bailment law,  auto insurance, and car accidents
  Re: Bailment law,  auto insurance, and car accidents
  Re: E30 325is failing emmissions
  Re: E30 325is failing emmissions
  Re: <E36> Back Seat Removal
  e30 M3 Springs question
  Re: e30 M3 Springs question
  Re: e30 M3 Springs question
  E30 accelerates in stages
  Re: E30 accelerates in stages
  Re: E30 accelerates in stages
  Re: <E30> M3 Rod Bearing Question
  Re: <E30> M3 Rod Bearing Question
  Re: <E30> M3 Rod Bearing Question

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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:12:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mark and Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   bmwuucdigest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Bailment law,  auto insurance, and car accidents
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mark,

Thanks for the info.  Two questions for you though.

1)  Any info/experience regarding bailment law
specifically.  From what I've been told, in MA
insurance follows the car.  However, I don't know if
it is possible to recoup the deductible under bailment
law from the driver's insurance?  For the most part,
all I'm really after is my deductible if possible.

2)  Regarding "at any facility designed for racing,"
what exactly does this mean?  Specifically, if someone
auto-x at Fort Devins (a retired air force base), is
this "designed for racing"?  The clubs set up the
course.  Any insight here?

Actually, I lied.  I've got a third question.  I've
recieved a repair estimate from my insurance company. 
I've had two repair shops look at the car, and the
estimate is clearly low, probably by at least $2000. 
I'm not sure I want to repair the car for a multitude
of reasons, so I might just want the money.  How
should I best go about getting a check for an amount
closer to the actual repair costs?

Thanks!

Paul

--- Mark and Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Ugh...  I hope you are aware of the fact that losses
> at any facility 
> designed
> for racing are NOT covered if you have a
> Massachusetts policy? In the
> past,   I actually have downloaded and read the
> policy.. it is the same
> for all drivers in MA... I cannot find my copy
> immediately, but I am 95%
>  certain that insurance follows the car.
> 
> Mark Williams
> Dallas, TX
> claim rep by day....
> 
> 
> 
> >Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:24:26 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: Bailment law,  auto insurance, and car
> accidents
> >Message-ID:
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >The relevant state is MA.  
> >
> 



                
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:56:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bailment law,  auto insurance, and car accidents
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If you're not in danger of totalling the car by getting
more money, take it to one of the shops (whichever you're
on better terms with).  Have them do a partial teardown and
call the ins. co.'s estimator to come back to account for
additional damage.  They should adjust their estimate.  

You'll get the difference minus the teardown labor, but the
money should be coming to you, not directly to the shop.

-tammer

--- P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> Thanks for the info.  Two questions for you though.
> 
> 1)  Any info/experience regarding bailment law
> specifically.  From what I've been told, in MA
> insurance follows the car.  However, I don't know if
> it is possible to recoup the deductible under bailment
> law from the driver's insurance?  For the most part,
> all I'm really after is my deductible if possible.
> 
> 2)  Regarding "at any facility designed for racing,"
> what exactly does this mean?  Specifically, if someone
> auto-x at Fort Devins (a retired air force base), is
> this "designed for racing"?  The clubs set up the
> course.  Any insight here?
> 
> Actually, I lied.  I've got a third question.  I've
> recieved a repair estimate from my insurance company. 
> I've had two repair shops look at the car, and the
> estimate is clearly low, probably by at least $2000. 
> I'm not sure I want to repair the car for a multitude
> of reasons, so I might just want the money.  How
> should I best go about getting a check for an amount
> closer to the actual repair costs?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Paul
> 
> --- Mark and Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Ugh...  I hope you are aware of the fact that losses
> > at any facility 
> > designed
> > for racing are NOT covered if you have a
> > Massachusetts policy? In the
> > past,   I actually have downloaded and read the
> > policy.. it is the same
> > for all drivers in MA... I cannot find my copy
> > immediately, but I am 95%
> >  certain that insurance follows the car.
> > 
> > Mark Williams
> > Dallas, TX
> > claim rep by day....
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:24:26 -0700 (PDT)
> > >From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
> > >Subject: Re: Bailment law,  auto insurance, and car
> > accidents
> > >Message-ID:
> >
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >The relevant state is MA.  
> > >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:40:52 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E30 325is failing emmissions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Ed,

Hard starting in the morning? Long cranking even when warm?

Then could be leaking cold start injector leaking or temp sensor(s) failed
or reading cold all the time.

-Kevin



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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:03:12 -0400
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E30 325is failing emmissions
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Car doesn't have a cold start injector, tested temp sensor and swapped 
it with a known good one with no effect.

Thanks,

Ed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Ed,
>
>Hard starting in the morning? Long cranking even when warm?
>
>Then could be leaking cold start injector leaking or temp sensor(s) failed
>or reading cold all the time.
>  
>

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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:39:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> Back Seat Removal
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, October 26, 2005 8:59 pm, C. Craig Eller said:
> Guess the hurricane has rattled my brains, I know I've had the back seat
> (fixed seat back, no trunk entry) out of the M3 before.  The seat bottom
> is easy, just lift up at the edge and pull out.  But I can't for the life
> of me figure out the seat back (vertical portion).

Have a look at my site:
http://www.jimbassett.com/bmw.htm

Click on "Schroth Rallye 4 Harness Installation" on the left. Part of that
procedure involved removing the seat back, you should find the info you're
looking for there.

Cheers,
Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4 - formerly with Schroth harnesses
1993 325is #44 JP


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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:36:50 -0400
From: "JohnGrills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: e30 M3 Springs question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gruppe:

The stock springs in the e30 M3 are shorter than standard e30 setup, right?
So Bilstein Sports are what you want to pair with them, correct? I have
Sachs in there now from PO and it's time to put her in the garage for the
winter physical...

Same thing with the e36 M3, right?

John Grills
98 M3/4
88 M3
87 iC



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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:14:09 -0400
From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "JohnGrills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: e30 M3 Springs question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The stock springs in the e30 M3 are shorter than standard e30
> setup, right?

Correct.

> So Bilstein Sports are what you want to pair with them, correct?

Yes.

> I have Sachs in there now from PO and it's time to put her in the garage
for the
> winter physical...
>
> Same thing with the e36 M3, right?

Yes (if you are referring to the use of E36 M3 springs on regular E36s).

If anyone is looking for a set of '95 E36 M3 springs, I have a set sitting
on the shelf right now in excellent shape.  I also have a like new set of
E36 M3 rear shocks and a worn-out set of '95 E36 M3 front struts (if anyone
is looking for a set for cut-n-gut).

Regards,

Rich


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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:22:40 -0700
From: Kurt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: JohnGrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: e30 M3 Springs question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On 10/27/05, JohnGrills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gruppe:
>
> The stock springs in the e30 M3 are shorter than standard e30 setup, right?

Drops the car  between 0.75" and 1"

> So Bilstein Sports are what you want to pair with them, correct?

Correct.  Its a nice combo with E30 M3 springs.

>I have
> Sachs in there now from PO and it's time to put her in the garage for the
> winter physical...
>
> Same thing with the e36 M3, right?

Not sure about that one.

Kurt.


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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:57:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: E30 accelerates in stages
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Paul posted this message a while back. I am curious Paul if you found the
problem on your E30?  I am having the same issue with my 325e and I have a
list of things to check this weekend.  Did you have any luck?
Ryan-

Paul wrote:
>Sooooo,

My 92 325is "Accelerates in Stages". That is, there are obvious pauses
during the climb through the rev range be coming quite observable as the car
enters the high part of the torque curve. It is not a smooth climb through
the rev range as I am used to on my 96 328i 0r my 95 M3, (all these cars are
manuals btw...), or any of my previous E30's (85 323ic baur, 91 325is, 90
325is. While I am used to the characteristic surge of the M50/M52 that
occurs around 3200 (depending on model/displacement/chip etc...) I am
convinced that this "surging" type of acceleration is not intended behavior.
Having spoken with a couple of my BMW savvy friends locally, the opinion is
that if it was the O2 sensor it would be accompanied by a Check Engine
light. I had, until relatively recently, an 86 325es which accelerated in
exactly the same manner as this 92 325is and it did not display a check
engine light either.
Vacuum leaks, dirty intake tracts, and generally old car parts are not ruled
out here as BOTH cars have 200,000 miles! However all other aspects of
performance are correct on these cars. Smooth idle @ 600 - 700 RPM, no
smoking anywhere during acceleration or deceleration, lots of power up high
and down low, (at least as strong as an ETA can be up top or as strong as a
non-vanos M50 can be off idle, hehe), and they both pass Texas emissions
control without a problem. Both cars are well maintained and most of the
filters/fluids are recent (save for the 02 sensor)
So the questions are;

Can the O2 sensor be bad and notibly affect performance without throwing a
check engine light?
Has anyone else ever seen anything like this?
Should I look elsewhere? (Fuel filter?, clogged Catalityic converter?, fuel
pressure regulator?)

Thanks for your brain cycles,

Paul A. Garnier
Systems Integration
FastNetworking
281-827-0725 cell/pgr<


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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:44:45 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: E30 accelerates in stages
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Maybe the VTEC valve is sticking.

If not, on an E30, the EGO is ignored at full throttle.  Perhaps its a 
sticky AFM.

Gary Derian

> Paul posted this message a while back. I am curious Paul if you found the
> problem on your E30?  I am having the same issue with my 325e and I have a
> list of things to check this weekend.  Did you have any luck?
> Ryan-
>
> Paul wrote:
>>Sooooo,
>
> My 92 325is "Accelerates in Stages". That is, there are obvious pauses
> during the climb through the rev range be coming quite observable as the 
> car
> enters the high part of the torque curve. It is not a smooth climb through
> the rev range as I am used to on my 96 328i 0r my 95 M3, (all these cars 
> are
> manuals btw...), or any of my previous E30's (85 323ic baur, 91 325is, 90
> 325is. While I am used to the characteristic surge of the M50/M52 that
> occurs around 3200 (depending on model/displacement/chip etc...) I am
> convinced that this "surging" type of acceleration is not intended 
> behavior.
> Having spoken with a couple of my BMW savvy friends locally, the opinion 
> is
> that if it was the O2 sensor it would be accompanied by a Check Engine
> light. I had, until relatively recently, an 86 325es which accelerated in
> exactly the same manner as this 92 325is and it did not display a check
> engine light either.
> Vacuum leaks, dirty intake tracts, and generally old car parts are not 
> ruled
> out here as BOTH cars have 200,000 miles! However all other aspects of
> performance are correct on these cars. Smooth idle @ 600 - 700 RPM, no
> smoking anywhere during acceleration or deceleration, lots of power up 
> high
> and down low, (at least as strong as an ETA can be up top or as strong as 
> a
> non-vanos M50 can be off idle, hehe), and they both pass Texas emissions
> control without a problem. Both cars are well maintained and most of the
> filters/fluids are recent (save for the 02 sensor)
> So the questions are;
>
> Can the O2 sensor be bad and notibly affect performance without throwing a
> check engine light?
> Has anyone else ever seen anything like this?
> Should I look elsewhere? (Fuel filter?, clogged Catalityic converter?, 
> fuel
> pressure regulator?)
>
> Thanks for your brain cycles,
>
> Paul A. Garnier
> Systems Integration
> FastNetworking
> 281-827-0725 cell/pgr<
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com 


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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:58:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: E30 accelerates in stages
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Gary,
What is VTEC?
The AFM is one of the things I had on my list to check.  About a year ago
I left a store and when I would put my foot ont he gas to accelerate
nothing would happen and then BOOM the car would take off.  It did this
through every shift.  It never did it again.  I suspected then that it was
the AFM.  Also the surge has seemed to get worse since I installed a chip
(Turner chip) this summer.  Is there something that needs to be
compensated for installing a chip?  Also what is a common procedure for
checking the AFM?
Thanks,
Ryan-


> Maybe the VTEC valve is sticking.
>
> If not, on an E30, the EGO is ignored at full throttle.  Perhaps its a
> sticky AFM.
>
> Gary Derian
>
>> Paul posted this message a while back. I am curious Paul if you found
>> the
>> problem on your E30?  I am having the same issue with my 325e and I have
>> a
>> list of things to check this weekend.  Did you have any luck?
>> Ryan-
>>
>> Paul wrote:
>>>Sooooo,
>>
>> My 92 325is "Accelerates in Stages". That is, there are obvious pauses
>> during the climb through the rev range be coming quite observable as the
>> car
>> enters the high part of the torque curve. It is not a smooth climb
>> through
>> the rev range as I am used to on my 96 328i 0r my 95 M3, (all these cars
>> are
>> manuals btw...), or any of my previous E30's (85 323ic baur, 91 325is,
>> 90
>> 325is. While I am used to the characteristic surge of the M50/M52 that
>> occurs around 3200 (depending on model/displacement/chip etc...) I am
>> convinced that this "surging" type of acceleration is not intended
>> behavior.
>> Having spoken with a couple of my BMW savvy friends locally, the opinion
>> is
>> that if it was the O2 sensor it would be accompanied by a Check Engine
>> light. I had, until relatively recently, an 86 325es which accelerated
>> in
>> exactly the same manner as this 92 325is and it did not display a check
>> engine light either.
>> Vacuum leaks, dirty intake tracts, and generally old car parts are not
>> ruled
>> out here as BOTH cars have 200,000 miles! However all other aspects of
>> performance are correct on these cars. Smooth idle @ 600 - 700 RPM, no
>> smoking anywhere during acceleration or deceleration, lots of power up
>> high
>> and down low, (at least as strong as an ETA can be up top or as strong
>> as
>> a
>> non-vanos M50 can be off idle, hehe), and they both pass Texas emissions
>> control without a problem. Both cars are well maintained and most of the
>> filters/fluids are recent (save for the 02 sensor)
>> So the questions are;
>>
>> Can the O2 sensor be bad and notibly affect performance without throwing
>> a
>> check engine light?
>> Has anyone else ever seen anything like this?
>> Should I look elsewhere? (Fuel filter?, clogged Catalityic converter?,
>> fuel
>> pressure regulator?)
>>
>> Thanks for your brain cycles,
>>
>> Paul A. Garnier
>> Systems Integration
>> FastNetworking
>> 281-827-0725 cell/pgr<
>>
>> Search the
>> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________________
>> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW
>> CCA.
>>
>> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
>


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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:41:10 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E30> M3 Rod Bearing Question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Brett,

Just for curiosity, why just the rod bearings and not the crank bearings
also?

-Kevin



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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:55:01 -0400
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <E30> M3 Rod Bearing Question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Easy, the crank bearings get full oil pressure feed.  Oil for the rod
bearings first goes through the mains, then through the drilled passages in
the crank.  At best, the rods get intermittent oiling.

Gary Derian
>
> Brett,
>
> Just for curiosity, why just the rod bearings and not the crank bearings
> also?
>
> -Kevin
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:31:21 -0400
From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> M3 Rod Bearing Question
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The rod bearings are subjected to much more force and therefore wear, than
the crank bearings.

Crank bearings hold a rotating item.  Rod bearings hold a rotating item that
has vertical force placed on it twice per revolution, through friction, plus
a stronger force once every second revolution during ignition.

Pre-detonation, or pinking/pinging (depending on what side of the Pond
you're from) hastens the demise of the bearings.

Wear will increase clearances, increased clearances increase wear, it
becomes an exponentially increasing problem as time goes on.  Ultimately, a
bearing will have so much clearance that it will spin, damaging the crank.

This problem is realistically restricted to the higher strung S engines, S14
and S38B38 are the two that we suggest replacing the bearings as
preventative maintenance.  We have yet to see an S38 B38 that did NOT have
severe bearing damage on the rod bearings, while the main bearings were fine
on those checked.


Brett Anderson
KMS - Koala Motorsport
www.bmwdiffs.com
440 564 7574
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty, OH 44072
(Near Cleveland)

> -----Original Message-----
> Brett,
>
> Just for curiosity, why just the rod bearings and not the crank bearings
> also?
>
> -Kevin



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