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  E30 glass sunroof for sale
  Re: E30 glass sunroof for sale
  Re: E30 glass sunroof for sale
  <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
  Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
  Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
  Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
  Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
  Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
  Re: <e36> Suspension set up
  E46 Shocks and Struts
  Re: E46 Shocks and Struts
  Re: Laguna Seca noise limits
  FREE:  Car battery for Acura Integra/Honda Civic in MA/Boston area

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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:29:28 -0500
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
Subject: E30 glass sunroof for sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Folks keep pestering me to part with my stash of glass sunroofs.

Here is one for sale with a 325is attached. If you just want the 
sunroof, I'll remove it for free, ship it at your expense and donate the 
remaining car to charity in your name!

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4592259453>

Thanks,

Ed



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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:38:49 -0600
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: E30 glass sunroof for sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

ok... how much to stop the auction?

Thanks,
Jon
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M50conversion.com
615.333.9118
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:29 PM
Subject: [UUC] E30 glass sunroof for sale


> Folks keep pestering me to part with my stash of glass sunroofs.
>
> Here is one for sale with a 325is attached. If you just want the sunroof, 
> I'll remove it for free, ship it at your expense and donate the remaining 
> car to charity in your name!
>
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4592259453>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed
>
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 07:10:48 -0500
From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E30 glass sunroof for sale
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jon,

I can't stop the auction because I'm going back to the original seller 
for the difference between the $760 I paid, the $47 to relist the car 
less whatever it ultimately brings. I'm eating the $120 it cost to get 
it down here to Baltimore.

I will be happy if I get $500 and will probably let the bozo off the hook.

Ed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> ok... how much to stop the auction?
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
> ______________________________________________
>
> Jon Siccardi - DM #052
> TreehouseRacing.com
> M50conversion.com
> 615.333.9118
> ______________________________________________
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed MacVaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 8:29 PM
> Subject: [UUC] E30 glass sunroof for sale
>
>
>> Folks keep pestering me to part with my stash of glass sunroofs.
>>
>> Here is one for sale with a 325is attached. If you just want the 
>> sunroof, I'll remove it for free, ship it at your expense and donate 
>> the remaining car to charity in your name!
>>
>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4592259453>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> Search the 
>> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________________ 
>>
>> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW 
>> CCA.
>>
>> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com 
>
>
> Search the 
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________ 
>
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
>

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:36:53 -0600
From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Many thanks to all who responded to help me troubleshoot an rough idle
followed by a CEL on my 93 325ic.  I rechecked all the vacuum stuff and
found nothing amiss. Then, based on a tip from the ususally correct Gary
D. (well maybe always correct), I went looking for a misfire. I checked
and cleaned the cap, rotor and plugs.  Everything looked fine.  I
started the car and tried the shadetree method of pulling a plug wire to
find the miss.  Pulling the number one wire showed no change in the
idle, but plugging it partway back, I could hear the spark snapping
acroos the gap to the plug. This combined with the occasional light
shock the wire gave me leads me to believe the cylinder is getting
spark.  I then wedged the trottle at about 2000 rpm and tried again.
Pulling the wire at that speed produced a very noticeable miss, so the
cylnder appears to work at speed.  Finally I checked compression on that
cylinder and got about 160psi. 

My theory is that that injector is not working at idle, but kicks in as
the rpm rise.  I assume the fuel pressure rises with the increased
vacuum of higher rpm and then the injector kicks in.  Is this correct or
even possible?  Car gets a daily "Italian tune-up" of 80mph + for 15-20
minutes as part of my commute.  I plan to heavily dose the car with
Techron and failing that, I guess I will get the injectors redone.  Can
anyone recommend a good shop for that?  It would be ideal if I could get
them on a core basis to minimize the down time.

Strangely the car seems better today, but is idling closer to 900rpm
rather than 6-700 as usual.

Regards,
Paul Craven
Engineering Manager
Kansas City Deaerator Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(913)338-2111
 


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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:48:17 -0600
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Instead of just dumping Techron in the gas, I would suggest trying a hot 
soak, or whatever it's called.  This is sucking the cleaner into the 
intake through a vacuum hose slowly and after a minute or so at such a 
rate that the engine stalls; let sit 5-10 minutes and then start.  I've 
never done it on a BMW but this was commonly done on old carburated cars.

I have not used, but have heard of people having good results using 
something called Seafoam(?).  There are other cleaners available for 
this.  I'm also sure there's clear instructions for doing this somewhere 
but haven't searched.

Thanks for posting the progress of this.

Clarence
West Bend, WI

Paul Craven wrote:
> Many thanks to all who responded to help me troubleshoot an rough idle
> followed by a CEL on my 93 325ic.  I rechecked all the vacuum stuff and
> found nothing amiss. Then, based on a tip from the ususally correct Gary
> D. (well maybe always correct), I went looking for a misfire. I checked
> and cleaned the cap, rotor and plugs.  Everything looked fine.  I
> started the car and tried the shadetree method of pulling a plug wire to
> find the miss.  Pulling the number one wire showed no change in the
> idle, but plugging it partway back, I could hear the spark snapping
> acroos the gap to the plug. This combined with the occasional light
> shock the wire gave me leads me to believe the cylinder is getting
> spark.  I then wedged the trottle at about 2000 rpm and tried again.
> Pulling the wire at that speed produced a very noticeable miss, so the
> cylnder appears to work at speed.  Finally I checked compression on that
> cylinder and got about 160psi. 
> 
> My theory is that that injector is not working at idle, but kicks in as
> the rpm rise.  I assume the fuel pressure rises with the increased
> vacuum of higher rpm and then the injector kicks in.  Is this correct or
> even possible?  Car gets a daily "Italian tune-up" of 80mph + for 15-20
> minutes as part of my commute.  I plan to heavily dose the car with
> Techron and failing that, I guess I will get the injectors redone.  Can
> anyone recommend a good shop for that?  It would be ideal if I could get
> them on a core basis to minimize the down time.
> 
> Strangely the car seems better today, but is idling closer to 900rpm
> rather than 6-700 as usual.
> 
> Regards,
> Paul Craven
> Engineering Manager
> Kansas City Deaerator Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (913)338-2111
>  
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 06:57:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Techron and failing that, I guess I will get the injectors >redone. 
>Can anyone recommend a good shop for that?  It would be ideal >if I
could get them on a core basis to minimize the down time.

www.cruzinperformance.com

I was impressed by how he does things.  I would still recommend another
set of injectors to minimize down time, not sure if he has cores, he
does have extras as he sent me one of his when one of mine would not
perform properly.  He'll email you the flow numbers (before and after
cleaning), tracking number, etc so you don't have to wonder where your
injectors may be.  If you call him you'll know when he can get to yours
but I'd say tyipical turnaround time is about a week.  That's why I'd
send him an extra set of injectors if you can find some.

Carlos.



                
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 07:32:21 -0800
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

another test would be to swap the suspect injector with one from a 
cylinder that is not mis-firing and see if the misfiring switches to the 
other cylinder, and your suspect one idles properly.
Barry

Carlos Lopez wrote:

>--- Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Techron and failing that, I guess I will get the injectors >redone. 
>>Can anyone recommend a good shop for that?  It would be ideal >if I
>>    
>>
>could get them on a core basis to minimize the down time.
>
>www.cruzinperformance.com
>
>I was impressed by how he does things.  I would still recommend another
>set of injectors to minimize down time, not sure if he has cores, he
>does have extras as he sent me one of his when one of mine would not
>perform properly.  He'll email you the flow numbers (before and after
>cleaning), tracking number, etc so you don't have to wonder where your
>injectors may be.  If you call him you'll know when he can get to yours
>but I'd say tyipical turnaround time is about a week.  That's why I'd
>send him an extra set of injectors if you can find some.
>
>Carlos.
>
>
>
>               
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>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
>
>  
>

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:46:38 -0500
From: CsWs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

www.cruzinperformance.com

--
Karl
#747 KP
http://www.elephantmotorsports.com

On 11/21/05, Paul Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Many thanks to all who responded to help me troubleshoot an rough idle
> followed by a CEL on my 93 325ic.  I rechecked all the vacuum stuff and
> found nothing amiss. Then, based on a tip from the ususally correct Gary
> D. (well maybe always correct), I went looking for a misfire. I checked
> and cleaned the cap, rotor and plugs.  Everything looked fine.  I
> started the car and tried the shadetree method of pulling a plug wire to
> find the miss.  Pulling the number one wire showed no change in the
> idle, but plugging it partway back, I could hear the spark snapping
> acroos the gap to the plug. This combined with the occasional light
> shock the wire gave me leads me to believe the cylinder is getting
> spark.  I then wedged the trottle at about 2000 rpm and tried again.
> Pulling the wire at that speed produced a very noticeable miss, so the
> cylnder appears to work at speed.  Finally I checked compression on that
> cylinder and got about 160psi.
>
> My theory is that that injector is not working at idle, but kicks in as
> the rpm rise.  I assume the fuel pressure rises with the increased
> vacuum of higher rpm and then the injector kicks in.  Is this correct or
> even possible?  Car gets a daily "Italian tune-up" of 80mph + for 15-20
> minutes as part of my commute.  I plan to heavily dose the car with
> Techron and failing that, I guess I will get the injectors redone.  Can
> anyone recommend a good shop for that?  It would be ideal if I could get
> them on a core basis to minimize the down time.
>
> Strangely the car seems better today, but is idling closer to 900rpm
> rather than 6-700 as usual.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Craven
> Engineering Manager
> Kansas City Deaerator Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (913)338-2111


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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:20:54 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> Idle and CEL mystery solved, sort of
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Fuel pressure is lower when there is higher intake vacuum.  The delta P 
across the injectors is held constant.  Maybe you heard the spark snapping 
to the head rather than to the plug.

Swap injectors and swap plugs.

Gary Derian



> Many thanks to all who responded to help me troubleshoot an rough idle
> followed by a CEL on my 93 325ic.  I rechecked all the vacuum stuff and
> found nothing amiss. Then, based on a tip from the ususally correct Gary
> D. (well maybe always correct), I went looking for a misfire. I checked
> and cleaned the cap, rotor and plugs.  Everything looked fine.  I
> started the car and tried the shadetree method of pulling a plug wire to
> find the miss.  Pulling the number one wire showed no change in the
> idle, but plugging it partway back, I could hear the spark snapping
> acroos the gap to the plug. This combined with the occasional light
> shock the wire gave me leads me to believe the cylinder is getting
> spark.  I then wedged the trottle at about 2000 rpm and tried again.
> Pulling the wire at that speed produced a very noticeable miss, so the
> cylnder appears to work at speed.  Finally I checked compression on that
> cylinder and got about 160psi.
>
> My theory is that that injector is not working at idle, but kicks in as
> the rpm rise.  I assume the fuel pressure rises with the increased
> vacuum of higher rpm and then the injector kicks in.  Is this correct or
> even possible?  Car gets a daily "Italian tune-up" of 80mph + for 15-20
> minutes as part of my commute.  I plan to heavily dose the car with
> Techron and failing that, I guess I will get the injectors redone.  Can
> anyone recommend a good shop for that?  It would be ideal if I could get
> them on a core basis to minimize the down time.
>
> Strangely the car seems better today, but is idling closer to 900rpm
> rather than 6-700 as usual.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Craven
> Engineering Manager
> Kansas City Deaerator Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (913)338-2111


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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:29:41 -0500
From: "chet.dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <e36> Suspension set up
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Scott,
This is good info.  However, it sacrifices turn-in and handling balance.
Bushings deflect under braking and turning to provide more toe-in.
Toe-in acts to induce understeer.  A little heavy trail-braking should
take care of that, but you have to drive around it to make the car
balanced.
I can't argue with your experience, I'm just trying to point out
possible trade-offs and share some of my own.
Toe out during heavy weight-transfer acceleration is not as large a
concern as excessive toe-in under braking and turn-in.  I think the
forces acting on the front control arm bushings under braking are much
larger than those under acceleration.  But that's only my opinion and
it's all a compromise.  Only the focal point changes.

I've always been amazed at how much can be done with a performance
alignment alone to help balance a car.  A little negative camber and
some toe changes and an otherwise stock car can go from understeer to
neutral handling.

Cheers,
Chet Dawes

From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <e36> Suspension set up

I used to be in the zero front toe camp, until John Siau at Conversion
Techniques set my alignment.  I kept saying I wanted zero toe.  He
kept saying, "No you don't."  I finally asked why.  He explained that
the factory rubber control arm bushings (even the M3 ones like I run)
allow a fair amount of deflection under acceleration,with the result
being more toe out as you accelerate.  He recommended 0.6 degree toe
in per side, which I'd guess corresponds closely to GD's 1mm
recommendation.  Then under acceleration you get your zero toe.  This
setting has worked well for me both for street and autocrossing.  Zero
toe might be OK for someone running urethane LCA bushings.

In the back, where I have urethane (adjustable) trailing arm bushings,
John set the toe closer to zero than factory spec.  The urethane
bushings don't deflect as much as the stock rubber ones, according to
John.  I don't know if this also applies to the E36 rear suspension,
which is a different design.

Scott Miller
GGC BMW CCA

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 07:46:51 -0800
From: Tom Kosmalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: E46 Shocks and Struts
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just my semiannual inquiry as to whether anyone is aware of sport 
shocks and struts that would fit an 04 325iT without sport suspension.

I sure can't find any.

Not interested in lowering, stiffer springs, etc., just a set of 
slightly firmer shocks.

TIA!

Tom K.
Hood River, OR


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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 11:17:03 -0500
From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom Kosmalski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: E46 Shocks and Struts
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

What is wrong with the usual Bilstein or Koni parts?
Gary Derian



> Just my semiannual inquiry as to whether anyone is aware of sport 
> shocks and struts that would fit an 04 325iT without sport suspension.
> 
> I sure can't find any.
> 
> Not interested in lowering, stiffer springs, etc., just a set of 
> slightly firmer shocks.
> 
> TIA!
> 
> Tom K.
> Hood River, OR


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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:55:55 -0500
From: "john grills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Laguna Seca noise limits
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 Chris,
Just as I suspected. Now, if we can convince them to put one together for
the e30 M3 I'll wait in line to purchase!
I'd love to match this object d'art to Mario L's X-pipe...it's only money,
right?

r/John Grills
98 M3/4
88 M3
87 iC

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Eck
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 1:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Laguna Seca noise limits

I have the new UUC Corsa RSC36 exhaust on my E36M3 and it's phenomenal
-- lighter than stock and a gain of a few hp, and it sounds magnificent.  I
have not been subject to any noise restriction problems at the tracks I've
run, but I've not driven Laguna Seca.  I have not had a single person in the
car on the track who has not commented on the wonderful sound this exhaust
provides, and it's quiet at idle and doesn't drone on the highway.  Just an
excellent choice.

Chris Eck
97 M3
99 M Roadster



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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:52:29 -0800 (PST)
From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: FREE:  Car battery for Acura Integra/Honda Civic in MA/Boston area
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've got a nice, used battery for a 99 Acura Integra. 
I was recently installed, and now has been removed. 
Works fine.  Should also fit Honda Civics of the same
vintage.

Free to anyone who wants to pick it up in North
Andover, MA.


        
                
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