The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 54 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: <OT> but really on topic reminiscences Re: 528e Purchase Re: 528e Purchase Re: WTB Wrecked E60 M5 or E63 M6 Re: 528e Purchase Re: 528e Purchase Re: 528e Purchase Re: <E36> Thermostat Re: <E36> Thermostat Re: <E36> Thermostat Re: <E36> Thermostat Re: <E36> Thermostat Re: <OT> but really on topic reminiscences Re: <OT> but really on topic reminiscences
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:57:31 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: <OT> but really on topic reminiscences Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Interspersals: >Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:31:59 -0800 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com >Subject: <OT> but really on topic reminiscences >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Perusing the archives.... it's a treat. > >Anyone remember Rob's "etymological coelacanth" it was only a year ago but >still a jewel. It escapes me at the moment. >How about Ulf-isms? Wonder how he's getting on between stupors. Ulf still lives in the Great Frozen Wasteland (his words for Norway), has a girlfriend (which has grounded him a bit) and is moving to a new apartment. He's driving an E30 325ix. >Anyone heard from Brad Couvillon, how's the Air Force treating him in sunny >Alaska? Haven't heard, he was more active on the different 5 series lists/boards. His trans swap lives on in infamy - the new standard of time-to-accomplish by which the rest of us like to be judged. >How're Fuerst and Duanegerous doing? 1st is still being 1st, recently got a promotion and still buys/sells used BMW parts in his spare time. Duangerous is rumored to still be active on the UUC Garage, so I guess he's still around. >NHV (noise, vibration, harshness)Neil must be busy or hibernating as we >haven't heard from him for a few months. He's in Georgia, bought a house, and pops up every now and then when he needs maintenance/repair advice for work he's doing on someone else's car. I think he still has his M5. >-Kevin Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:50:40 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 528e Purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ryan, the injectors on the M20 engine are notorious for making a faint but distinct tapping noise. Use a mechanic's stethescope and try to isolate the noise. If it is actually valves and not injectors, rocker removal does require the head to be removed. At that point you may as well go for a whole valve job, IMHO. But you might be surprised at how long the engine will run making noises like that. What weight of oil is in the engine? Consider going to a slightly heavier weight, it might quiet the valves some. How's the timing belt? Should be replaced every 4 years or 50K miles, whichever comes first. When changing the timing belt, also replace the water pump and timing belt tensioner. If you remove the head, may as well do the timing belt/water pump/tensioner at the same time. HTH, Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:54:52 -0800 (PST) >From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com >Subject: 528e Purchase >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Today I purchased another BMW today. An 87 528e...nothing special. >One question I have was with regards to a noise in the head. The car is >mechanically sound and has been maintained by a credible mechanic whom I >know, but not real well. The noise sounds like the valves need >adjustment, but the service records indicate they have been adjusted. The >mechanic who adjusted them made a small side note on the invoice that the >noise was possibly the rocker pads or rocker bushings. He didn't express >any concern to the previous owners about needing to have it fixed right >away. My question is if and when I decide to replace this or at least >look into it, does the head have to be removed? And, is this a serious >problem, or just an annoying one (tick tick tick tick) that will get >progressively worse? I am thinking it will only really affect smooth idle >and running, but I am unsure. Also, the ticking noise is very faint. >Sounds like a Toyota. >Thanks in advance, >Ryan- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:13:58 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 528e Purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just got off the phone with the mechanic who diagnosed the problem and he said the same thing about the injectors. Timing belt, waterpump, motor mounts, window seals and many other things have been replaced in the last two months, and they gave me the reciepts to prove it. The sad thing is, they have been taking the car to a service station to have the oil changed, one of the real bad ones too. The records indicate that they have been running 10/30, but I use 10/40 in my 325e. I think I will switch it since it is about equal mileage (210,000). Perhaps poor oil could have caused some wear in the head??? Thanks, Ryan- > Ryan, the injectors on the M20 engine are notorious for making a faint but > distinct tapping noise. Use a mechanic's stethescope and try to isolate > the noise. If it is actually valves and not injectors, rocker removal > does > require the head to be removed. At that point you may as well go for a > whole valve job, IMHO. But you might be surprised at how long the engine > will run making noises like that. What weight of oil is in the engine? > Consider going to a slightly heavier weight, it might quiet the valves > some. How's the timing belt? Should be replaced every 4 years or 50K > miles, whichever comes first. When changing the timing belt, also replace > the water pump and timing belt tensioner. If you remove the head, may as > well do the timing belt/water pump/tensioner at the same time. > > HTH, > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > >>Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:54:52 -0800 (PST) >>From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com >>Subject: 528e Purchase >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Today I purchased another BMW today. An 87 528e...nothing special. >>One question I have was with regards to a noise in the head. The car is >>mechanically sound and has been maintained by a credible mechanic whom I >>know, but not real well. The noise sounds like the valves need >>adjustment, but the service records indicate they have been adjusted. >> The >>mechanic who adjusted them made a small side note on the invoice that the >>noise was possibly the rocker pads or rocker bushings. He didn't express >>any concern to the previous owners about needing to have it fixed right >>away. My question is if and when I decide to replace this or at least >>look into it, does the head have to be removed? And, is this a serious >>problem, or just an annoying one (tick tick tick tick) that will get >>progressively worse? I am thinking it will only really affect smooth >> idle >>and running, but I am unsure. Also, the ticking noise is very faint. >>Sounds like a Toyota. >>Thanks in advance, >>Ryan- > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:41:59 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: WTB Wrecked E60 M5 or E63 M6 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Project Y? Nah, we did that for him already. Project Z too...... Good thing it's not for Rob. Hmmm, a bike. Now that's an interesting thought. I do have this 82 Kawasaki LTD sitting here doing nothing..... Brett Anderson KMS Jonathan Brush wrote: > Is this for another Levinson project? Maybe a custom bike? BWHAHA. > Jon > > > On 2/2/06, *KMS- Brett Anderson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Yeah, that's Conforti's take too. More power and torque for a lot less > money, but it just doesn't have that "cool" factor. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > > Gary Derian wrote: > > Stand in line, Koala boy. On second thought, why do that when a > Chevy > > V-8 is available <grin>. > > Gary Derian > > > >> Notwithstanding the recent, dubious, vehicle on Ebay. > >> > >> Finders fee available for any member of these lists that can > find me a > >> complete <wrecked> car, preferably hit anywhere but the front. > >> > >> > >> Brett Anderson > >> KMS-Koala Motorsport > > > > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW > CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:47:30 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: uuc Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: 528e Purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 210K miles, you may well have worn eccentrics or rocker pads. The eccentrics can be changed easily, the rockers not so easily. But if the rockers are worn, you can buy "oversize" eccentrics to compensate. Brett Anderson KMS Ryan Simmons wrote: > Today I purchased another BMW today. An 87 528e...nothing special. > One question I have was with regards to a noise in the head. The car is > mechanically sound and has been maintained by a credible mechanic whom I > know, but not real well. The noise sounds like the valves need > adjustment, but the service records indicate they have been adjusted. The > mechanic who adjusted them made a small side note on the invoice that the > noise was possibly the rocker pads or rocker bushings. He didn't express > any concern to the previous owners about needing to have it fixed right > away. My question is if and when I decide to replace this or at least > look into it, does the head have to be removed? And, is this a serious > problem, or just an annoying one (tick tick tick tick) that will get > progressively worse? I am thinking it will only really affect smooth idle > and running, but I am unsure. Also, the ticking noise is very faint. > Sounds like a Toyota. > Thanks in advance, > Ryan- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 21:09:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Ryan Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "uuc Digest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: 528e Purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the advice Brett. I was thinking that it might be the eccentrics, and it sounds like it is only one valve that is tapping, but obviously hard to tell. I thought maybe they didn't tighten the eccentric on the last valve adjustment, but not sure. What would account for "oversized"? Would that be an eccentric that is for the 535i model or something else? Ryan- > At 210K miles, you may well have worn eccentrics or rocker pads. The > eccentrics can be changed easily, the rockers not so easily. But if the > rockers are worn, you can buy "oversize" eccentrics to compensate. > > Brett Anderson > KMS > > > Ryan Simmons wrote: >> Today I purchased another BMW today. An 87 528e...nothing special. >> One question I have was with regards to a noise in the head. The car is >> mechanically sound and has been maintained by a credible mechanic whom I >> know, but not real well. The noise sounds like the valves need >> adjustment, but the service records indicate they have been adjusted. >> The >> mechanic who adjusted them made a small side note on the invoice that >> the >> noise was possibly the rocker pads or rocker bushings. He didn't >> express >> any concern to the previous owners about needing to have it fixed right >> away. My question is if and when I decide to replace this or at least >> look into it, does the head have to be removed? And, is this a serious >> problem, or just an annoying one (tick tick tick tick) that will get >> progressively worse? I am thinking it will only really affect smooth >> idle >> and running, but I am unsure. Also, the ticking noise is very faint. >> Sounds like a Toyota. >> Thanks in advance, >> Ryan- > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:00:39 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: 528e Purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The "oversize" eccentrics are aftermarket. Maybe "shudder" Bavauto.com or somesuch. Brett Anderson KMS Ryan Simmons wrote: > Thanks for the advice Brett. I was thinking that it might be the > eccentrics, and it sounds like it is only one valve that is tapping, but > obviously hard to tell. I thought maybe they didn't tighten the eccentric > on the last valve adjustment, but not sure. What would account for > "oversized"? Would that be an eccentric that is for the 535i model or > something else? > Ryan- > > >>At 210K miles, you may well have worn eccentrics or rocker pads. The >>eccentrics can be changed easily, the rockers not so easily. But if the >>rockers are worn, you can buy "oversize" eccentrics to compensate. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:45:22 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: <E36> Thermostat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I did? Hmm, no, I don't think I did. You need an 80C for that car. Hell you need an 80C for an E36, and guess what! The E30 thermostat fits. The colder the engine runs, within reason, the more power you make. High running temps are for emissions. Use BMW coolant. It's no longer that much more expensive than the "good" aftermarket coolants and it is the correct formulation for your car. It's all we use in the shop, even though I could double the profit on it if I used a store bought coolant. Hey Kevin, give me a call when you get a chance, I wrote your CC number down wrong. Your parts shipped a few days ago, despite that. Thanks Brett Anderson KMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I recall some time back Brett recommended the 92C thermostat for the > E30. Is this also true of the E36? What is the best thermostat for the E36 > (M52) with standard pump and I plan to use Havoline or equivalent coolant. > > -Kevin > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:44:50 -0800 (PST) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: <E36> Thermostat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use BMW coolant. It's no longer that much more expensive > than the > "good" aftermarket coolants and it is the correct > formulation for your > car. It's all we use in the shop, even though I could > double the profit > on it if I used a store bought coolant. Unless you buy it from Dreyer & Reinbold in Indianapolis, where they charge $24/gallon. My dad just bought some there. I warned him it would be "expensive" (thinking $11/gallon, which is about what I pay), and I about went through the roof when he told me what they charged him. Caveat Emptor. -tammer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:09:24 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: <E36> Thermostat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Then I guess we're a rip off too, at $22/gallon in our shop. Tammer, I'll take 200 gallons at $11/gallon. I'll even drive down and pick it up. Given that it costs a BMW dealer is almost $14/gallon and all..... BMW coolant is one of our lowest profit part numbers. Brett Anderson KMS Tammer Farid wrote: > > --- KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Use BMW coolant. It's no longer that much more expensive >>than the >>"good" aftermarket coolants and it is the correct >>formulation for your >>car. It's all we use in the shop, even though I could >>double the profit >>on it if I used a store bought coolant. > > > Unless you buy it from Dreyer & Reinbold in Indianapolis, > where they charge $24/gallon. My dad just bought some > there. I warned him it would be "expensive" (thinking > $11/gallon, which is about what I pay), and I about went > through the roof when he told me what they charged him. > Caveat Emptor. > > -tammer > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 22:13:54 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: <E36> Thermostat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:09 PM, KMS- Brett Anderson wrote: > Then I guess we're a rip off too, at $22/gallon in our shop. > > Tammer, I'll take 200 gallons at $11/gallon. I'll even drive down > and pick it up. > > Given that it costs a BMW dealer is almost $14/gallon and all..... > > BMW coolant is one of our lowest profit part numbers. At 50% markup? That's really saying something. - Mark, used to consumer electronics margins ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 01:52:20 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: <E36> Thermostat Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Dadgar wrote: > On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:09 PM, KMS- Brett Anderson wrote: > >> Then I guess we're a rip off too, at $22/gallon in our shop. >> >> Given that it costs a BMW dealer is almost $14/gallon and all..... >> >> BMW coolant is one of our lowest profit part numbers. > > > At 50% markup? That's really saying something. > > - Mark, used to consumer electronics margins > ----- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 50% markup on parts is borderline profitable. A dealer buying at $14 and selling at $24 is respectable profit. I'm assuming, of course, that your post wasn't a cheap shot at KMS, given that I stated that dealers pay almost $14, that doesn't even come close to what we pay. Hence, it's one of our lowest profit parts. Consumer electronics, of course, run at closer to 200% markup from what I've seen. Brett Anderson KMS-Koala Motorsport www.bmwdiffs.com (440) 564 7574 9988 Kinsman Rd Novelty, OH 44072 (Near Cleveland) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:47:27 -0800 (PST) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: <OT> but really on topic reminiscences Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone remember Rob's "etymological coelacanth" it was > only a year ago but > still a jewel. Yeah, I remember that. Wish I didn't though. ;-) > Anyone heard from Brad Couvillon, how's the Air Force > treating him in sunny > Alaska? He's at Whiteman (?) AFB in Missouri. He has an E28 528e for sale, btw, bronzit and in very good mechanical condition. He's doing well, is moving up ranks faster than the guys he came in with. > How're Fuerst and Duanegerous doing? Scott covered those bases. Duane is still telling some great stories. > NHV (noise, vibration, harshness)Neil must be busy or > hibernating as we > haven't heard from him for a few months. I miss the stories of his youth in India .... -tammer __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 22:35:19 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: <OT> but really on topic reminiscences Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Tammer wrote: > > NHV (noise, vibration, harshness)Neil must be busy > or hibernating as we haven't heard from him for a few months. > I miss the stories of his youth in India .... me too... those were fun to read. brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
