The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 36 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E30 diff cover bolts - torque? <E36> sunroof cassette help Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Re: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Re: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Re: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Re: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Scott's Dilemma Re: Scott's Dilemma Re: E34 Audio MP3 Discs Re: E34 Audio MP3 Discs Re: E34 Audio MP3 Discs E34 CD - Why does everyone like Nak? Another reason to hate Tony George
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:53:57 -0800 (PST) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: E30 diff cover bolts - torque? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cart loose, > > I think I used 42ftlbs on those bolts. Fellas, thanks to everyone for the torque values. The cover and diff went on yesterday and no leaky leaks yet. :-) Mucho happy with the new diff! Carlos 89 325i quicker now <g> 98 M3 still snoozin'... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:53:54 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: <E36> sunroof cassette help Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey all, Anyone have the p/n for the replacement sunroof cassette? I pulled my cassette out today and can see the retaining slides for the headliner are out of the track. Realoem only shows a repair kit for the headliner, which runs about $54 or so, it says. (BTW, does putting them back into the track fix the problem of the headliner sliding around?) Thanks guys, Brian 95 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 06:31:32 -0800 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Great feedback from everyone, thanks much! Answers here were similar to answsers elsewhere. Will probably shop locally for a new head unit, probably Nakamichi. If unable to find one before our trip, and if our daughter won't load our songs on her i-Pod, then I'll buy an MP3 player and FM transmitter just to get through this trip, and deal with the proper connections and such at a later time. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:33:01 -0500 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just a thought to save you the MP3 player purchase... as many of the current aftermarket head units can play MP3 CDs, and blank CDs are so cheap, you'll get better results simply burning ~8hours of MP3s on a single CD and playing that. Friends don't let friends use FM transmitters. ;-) - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [UUC] Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions > Great feedback from everyone, thanks much! Answers here were similar > to answsers elsewhere. Will probably shop locally for a new head > unit, probably Nakamichi. If unable to find one before our trip, and > if our daughter won't load our songs on her i-Pod, then I'll buy an > MP3 player and FM transmitter just to get through this trip, and deal > with the proper connections and such at a later time. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:37:23 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rob wrote: >Just a thought to save you the MP3 player purchase... as many of the current aftermarket head units can play MP3 CDs, and blank CDs are so cheap, you'll get better results simply burning ~8hours of MP3s on a single CD and playing that. Friends don't let friends use FM transmitters. ;-) ___________ I'll ditto that. The new 2006 Nissan Armada family truckster we're schlepping the kids around in comes equipped with an in-dash CD-changer that plays MP3s. This was the straw that finally got me to spend the weekend ripping 350+ CDs to my computer, then burning about a dozen CD-Roms with hours and hours and hours of music. It's great because I can load up about 48 hours of music at once, and use the steering wheel controls to select artist, album, track, whatever - no need to reach over and fuss with an iPod clipped to the dash (though the truck also has an Aux input). Vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:51:23 -0800 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 06:31 AM 1/17/2006, Scott & Charlotte Miller wrote: Are Nak radios reliable nowadays? When Nakamichi first started getting into the mass market in the 90s, (anyone else remember Nak at BestBuy?) the quality of a lot of their stuff really took a nosedive. I had a home CD player that sounded great but mechanically was somewhat marginal. And I remember a LOT of complaints about their 4-disc changer headunits and CDROM drives. It wasn't until Sony, IIRC, licensed slot-load MusicBank from them that the technology started to improve, and it's now ubiquitous in Japanese factory radios these days. >Great feedback from everyone, thanks much! Answers here were similar >to answsers elsewhere. Will probably shop locally for a new head >unit, probably Nakamichi. If unable to find one before our trip, and >if our daughter won't load our songs on her i-Pod, then I'll buy an >MP3 player and FM transmitter just to get through this trip, and deal >with the proper connections and such at a later time. > >Scott Miller >GGC BMW CCA > > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:15:13 -0600 From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree. Posted on that topic myself. On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Kazuto Okayasu wrote: At 06:31 AM 1/17/2006, Scott & Charlotte Miller wrote: Are Nak radios reliable nowadays? When Nakamichi first started getting into the mass market in the 90s, (anyone else remember Nak at BestBuy?) the quality of a lot of their stuff really took a nosedive. I had a home CD player that sounded great but mechanically was somewhat marginal. And I remember a LOT of complaints about their 4-disc changer headunits and CDROM drives. It wasn't until Sony, IIRC, licensed slot-load MusicBank from them that the technology started to improve, and it's now ubiquitous in Japanese factory radios these days. > Great feedback from everyone, thanks much! Answers here were similar > to answsers elsewhere. Will probably shop locally for a new head > unit, probably Nakamichi. If unable to find one before our trip, and > if our daughter won't load our songs on her i-Pod, then I'll buy an > MP3 player and FM transmitter just to get through this trip, and deal > with the proper connections and such at a later time. > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:04:11 -0500 (EST) From: John Drendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Scott's Dilemma Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scott, Yes there are lots of opines. Here is mine : Keep it simple. My suggestion. Don't invest in a headunit with MP3 conversion. It's low fi. I would use an Ipod with a head unit that has the best basic SQ (sound quality) possible and an auxiliary line-in or external CD magasine input. In my case, I purchased an Nakamichi 45Z from Ebay for under 200 bucks (the equivalent current model is the CD-400, about $400.). Get the Hard drive ipod with the biggest hard drive you can afford and load it up on cds using Apple's lossless conversion. So you can only put 200 or so CDs on the drive rather than thousands : the quality of the sound using ipod as a source with lossless conversion approaches true Hi-Fi. Finally, as others have noted, link the ipod to your head unit's line-in input using a link that takes the unamplified line-out signal from the ipod rather than the headphone signal. One inexpensive choice is this http://www.sendstation.com/us/products/pocketdock/lineout-usb.html. Use the ipod itself to select and decompress the music files. You can pay hundreds for links that allow you to use the latest and equally expensive "ipod ready" head units to navigate through your files, but none of them duplicate the elegance and simplicity of the ipod controls. Concerning the audio potential of the ipod, may I recommend you have a look at an article from an excellent HI-Fi mag from Montreal, UHF, http://www.uhfmag.com/Issue70/Issue70.html (go to the PDF file and scroll down to page 54) John Universite du Quebec a Montreal CP 8888 Succ. "Centreville" Montreal Qc. Canada H3C 3P8 514 987 3000 3687# ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:09:22 -0500 From: "Della Barba, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Scott's Dilemma Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FYI - I have found the audio quality of my Sony MP3/CD/AM/FM radio in my Toyota far superior to the quality of my 3rd Gen Ipod in my BMW. It isn't the source material either, the MP3s are the same in each case (225 VBR). I actually own about 6 devices that play MP3s one way or another and the Ipod is sadly the worst sounding of the bunch. Joe Della Barba -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Drendel Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Scott's Dilemma Scott, Yes there are lots of opines. Here is mine : Keep it simple. My suggestion. Don't invest in a headunit with MP3 conversion. It's low fi. I would use an Ipod with a head unit that has the best basic SQ (sound quality) possible and an auxiliary line-in or external CD magasine input. In my case, I purchased an Nakamichi 45Z from Ebay for under 200 bucks (the equivalent current model is the CD-400, about $400.). Get the Hard drive ipod with the biggest hard drive you can afford and load it up on cds using Apple's lossless conversion. So you can only put 200 or so CDs on the drive rather than thousands : the quality of the sound using ipod as a source with lossless conversion approaches true Hi-Fi. Finally, as others have noted, link the ipod to your head unit's line-in input using a link that takes the unamplified line-out signal from the ipod rather than the headphone signal. One inexpensive choice is this http://www.sendstation.com/us/products/pocketdock/lineout-usb.html. Use the ipod itself to select and decompress the music files. You can pay hundreds for links that allow you to use the latest and equally expensive "ipod ready" head units to navigate through your files, but none of them duplicate the elegance and simplicity of the ipod controls. Concerning the audio potential of the ipod, may I recommend you have a look at an article from an excellent HI-Fi mag from Montreal, UHF, http://www.uhfmag.com/Issue70/Issue70.html (go to the PDF file and scroll down to page 54) John Universite du Quebec a Montreal CP 8888 Succ. "Centreville" Montreal Qc. Canada H3C 3P8 514 987 3000 3687# Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:45:52 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E34 Audio MP3 Discs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll second Rob's nomination. After scanning for a solution that includes Aux Ins for an MP3 player, and losing nerve and reselling a Nak after buying it used based on reliability issues reported by other owners, I bought an Eclipse CD 3414 deck. A couple smallish controls, and the lettering is white rather than red, but it has clean sound and plays MP3 discs. It also cost me $100, though you might need to pay $150 for something similar. If you need to have your entire music collection with you at all times, I can see wanting the mega portability of a portable MP3 player, but if you only need 140 or so songs at a time (app. 700MB/ 5MB - song) , then a disc player might be a god compromise. Marc Plante E36 M3/4 69k Vienna, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Thanks Everyone - E34 Audio Solutions Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:33:01 -0500 > > Just a thought to save you the MP3 player purchase... as many of the current > aftermarket head units can play MP3 CDs, and blank CDs are so cheap, you'll > get better results simply burning ~8hours of MP3s on a single CD and playing > that. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 2006 17:32:58 -0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: E34 Audio MP3 Discs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been keeping my eye out for an in-dash unit that will read MP3 files from a DVD. 4+ GB would be enough space for a decent variety of music without the additional futzing with something external or a changer. I have not seen such an animal. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:16:57 -0600 From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: E34 Audio MP3 Discs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There have been units out for quite some time that can do this. They are not name brand though. With the exception of some dvd playing screens that will play mp3 dvds. A reason to really avoid these is that it is a royal pain to try and cycle through 4 gigs of MP3s on one disc. You would need to make and memorize wonderful playlists or folders. Essentially your discs would have to be very very organized. On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been keeping my eye out for an in-dash unit that will read MP3 files from a DVD. 4+ GB would be enough space for a decent variety of music without the additional futzing with something external or a changer. I have not seen such an animal. Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ [email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:14:24 -0600 From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMW List <[email protected]> Subject: E34 CD - Why does everyone like Nak? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm sorry, I kept quiet about this so long. I have owned several nakamichi units (CD35z, CD45z, MB75, MB100, and a couple others) in my lifetime and have found all of them disappointing. I worked for a Nakamichi dealer, and was one myself. During (and afaik after) the NakUsa conversion, the already mediocre service got even worse. Warranty work was a pain, as was returns and all around product quality. Those old 6 disc in dash units (mb75, one of the first mentioned ones) are quite terrible. Noisy, and very prone to jamming due to the mechanism being mounted directly to the chassis. If new and installed even close to not perfect, or used and uninstalled improperly or reinstalled poorly, then it will definitely do it. I've worked with them enough to know. The CD400 and CD500 units are rather sad for the money. Very similar to the CD43 (BMW stock unit), you wonder what exactly you paid >$400 for. If it was for "close enough" amber illumination, you got ripped off. You want quality? Try DENON, or Alpine F#1 units. Bust honestly, sound quality? On stock speakers and amp? Who cares? A bargain box Sony or Jensen will sound about the same, especially on stock bmw equipment going through the stock amplifier. Try 2005 models from Clarion, Alpine, and Eclipse. The 645 (clarion) and 9835 (alpine) are both great units, that aren't budget busters, that you can buy new, with warranty on closeout still. Oh, and they have adjustable color, and the Alpine has a preset for amber, so you don't even have to dial it in. I don't see what is beneficial about buying an ipod, and an output cable, and a dated head with aux in. Certainly not simple, would prefer all interface at one spot. For my money, a CDA-9835 (you can ipod it) and CHA-S634 from Alpine would be the way to go - and could be had for ipod+nak pricing. Or for about as much as the CD500. Don't post much because I don't track much, but I certainly know car stereo. Yes, I competed w/in USACi, yes, I've owned and worked for car stereo shops for 7+ years, yes, I know what I'm talking about. But, as you all know, YMMV, and just because I am regularly displeased with Nak - doesn't mean you will be. And to show this, I will recommend a wonderful dealer for Nakamichi called Avincar. The web address is Avincar.com, the owners name is Ken. He really likes current/new Nakamichi and I do respect (albeit disagree) with his opinion. He's a good guy, and may even give you a discount if you name drop. On a very related note: when installing these things yourself, the BMW harness will have a wire that says "Antenna" or "ANT" and is solid blue. Do not hook the solid blue antenna wire from the radio harness to it, but instead hook the blue w/ white stripe "remote" or "REM" wire to it. This will avoid a problem many people have with the radio only working with the radio on, and no sound when playing tape/cd/aux. The reason is you need the remote turn on lead going to the factory amplifier, to turn it on... Best of luck on your project, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:53:29 -0500 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "BMW List" <[email protected]> Subject: Another reason to hate Tony George Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...for what he's done to American road racing: KISS Bassist Promoting Indy Racing League By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: January 15, 2006 Filed at 6:21 p.m. ET INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Don't be surprised to find a checkered flag soon amid the black-and-white KISS face paint of tongue-wagging bassist Gene Simmons. Simmons and marketing partner Richard Abramson have signed a deal to promote the Indy Racing League, the open-wheeled circuit announced. The promotion campaign features a 91-second anthem called ''I Am Indy'' sung by Simmons, backed by the band BAG. The lyrics, which repeat the song's title ''I Am Indy,'' preach about individuality and top-speed performance: ''I am everything I want/ I have everything I need/ I know exactly what to do/ 'cuz I am Indy.'' ''It's a personal statement that's a sort of personal allegiance to the United States of Indy,'' Simmons said. The Indianapolis-based IRL posted the song on its Web site, www.indycar.com. Details of the rest of the campaign were being kept under wraps -- a spokesman declined to release the length and cost of the contract -- but Simmons said it would include an Indy-related clothing line. Abramson said the campaign's goal is to get more people to follow and understand auto racing. ''It already is pretty hip and cool,'' he said. ''We want to involve Hollywood more, we want to involve music people in it more. We want to get more individual people involved as opposed to flocks of people.'' The IRL is trying to increase its fan base. ''I think it's very aggressive and I think it's exactly what the IndyCar Series needs,'' said Brian Barnhart, IRL's president and chief operating officer. The IRL's flagship race is the Indianapolis 500, held every year on Memorial Day weekend. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
