The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 202 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: High Temp Paint?? <FS> E21 320i. 67K miles - 160hp Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: replacement shocks needed Re: Update: E36 suspension Koni settings Re: Update: E36 suspension Koni settings Radio Security code
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:50:14 -0700 (PDT) From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: High Temp Paint?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I used engine block paint on my 4-pot ATE front calipers, 3-4 coats, and have had no problems in over 3 years with lots of pad changes and wrenching in that area. I painted them semi-gloss black as I don't go for them showy brakes. My calipers were brand new but I still cleaned them as the iron was a bit oily. I didn't take the time to hand paint the little //M's. I am not very good at that kind of detail work and don't have practice painting my nails.;-) Kevin Kelly '91 M5 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:48:56 -0400 From: "Kathy Lyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMWUUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: <FS> E21 320i. 67K miles - 160hp Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Seller's name is Tom, his phone number is 440 247 8418 Seller's name is Ken Johnson. Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:45:47 -0400 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Actually, with due respect to Jay, I think that he simply must not know what he is talking about. Bilstein has offered custom-valved shocks for years and years (I remember discussing it with Will Turner at least as far back as 10 years ago). Before I heard of Koni's being custom valved. That said, I am not sure whether Bilstein or Koni do their own custom-valving. I believe they may farm out the work to aftermarket companies such as Turner and True Choice. Although, I am not even sure that Turner does their own ... I prefer the Koni Sports to the Bilsteins slightly. It is also interesting to note that for many years Koni practically hid their lifetime warranty policy, while Bilstein made a big deal of it. I think both are pretty well known now. Stan > Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:26:09 -0700 > From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > My bad... this was a few years ago, so it sounds like things have > changed. Disregard my last post. I'm going to go sit in a corner > with a dunce cap on. > > > > >> At a club event we had at > >> their shop, Jay (owner of Ground Control) > > > >> said that Bilstein's > >> monotube design is better, but you can't get Bilstein to build a > >> custom valved shock. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:58:49 -0700 From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That sort of reminds me of Apple's technical support in comparison to Dell. Apple has surpassed Dell in terms of customer satisfaction and support success rate for several years now, yet they don't brag about it anywhere, where as Dell keeps talking about their 'award winning' tech support, yet they have not been at the top for quite some time. Just an interesting observation, that's all. I'll shut up now and go back to my dunce corner... Sincerely, Mark Gold Sacramento Valley Chapter BMWCCA [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jul 18, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Stan Jackson Jr. wrote: > It is also interesting > to note that for many years Koni practically hid their lifetime > warranty > policy, while Bilstein made a big deal of it. I think both are > pretty well > known now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll shut up now and go back to my dunce corner... > Sincerely, > Mark Gold > Sacramento Valley Chapter BMWCCA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't be so hard on yourself we're all just sharing ideas. :-) The aftermarket has certainly made progress in the last few years and nowadays there are far more choices in dampers at least for 3-series vehicles than ever before. Ohlins, JRZ, Moton, etc can be easily had where before you used to have to go through a lot of trouble getting these. They're still damned expensive just more readily available. :-) Bilstein/Koni are so darn common now that even all the valving numbers are fairly well known. -Carlos. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:06:23 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bilstein has offered custom-valved shocks for years > and years Yep: http://www.bilstein.com/services.php - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:40:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know of E28 drivers who have contacted Bilstein directly, purchased custom-valved Sport shocks (give them the type of spring and they purpotedly have data for what valving will work--generally stiffer in both compression and rebound than an off-the-shelf Sport shock, which are too soft for E28 rears), and had them delivered to their home within 6 weeks or so. -tammer --- "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, with due respect to Jay, I think that he simply > must not know what > he is talking about. Bilstein has offered custom-valved > shocks for years > and years (I remember discussing it with Will Turner at > least as far back as > 10 years ago). Before I heard of Koni's being custom > valved. That said, I > am not sure whether Bilstein or Koni do their own > custom-valving. I believe > they may farm out the work to aftermarket companies such > as Turner and True > Choice. Although, I am not even sure that Turner does > their own ... > > I prefer the Koni Sports to the Bilsteins slightly. It > is also interesting > to note that for many years Koni practically hid their > lifetime warranty > policy, while Bilstein made a big deal of it. I think > both are pretty well > known now. > > Stan > > > > Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:26:09 -0700 > > From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > My bad... this was a few years ago, so it sounds like > things have > > changed. Disregard my last post. I'm going to go sit > in a corner > > with a dunce cap on. > > > > > > > >> At a club event we had at > > >> their shop, Jay (owner of Ground Control) > > > > > >> said that Bilstein's > > >> monotube design is better, but you can't get > Bilstein to build a > > >> custom valved shock. > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:47:14 -0700 From: Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:45 AM 7/18/2006, Stan Jackson Jr. wrote: >Actually, with due respect to Jay, I think that he simply must not know what >he is talking about. Bilstein has offered custom-valved shocks for years >and years (I remember discussing it with Will Turner at least as far back as >10 years ago). I have only talked to Jay once one the phone ... However, I can see from his perspective that he wants access to parts and custom valving to custom build shocks for his customers. Maybe Bilstein wants that custom business for themselves. So, you both could be right. Bilstein provides a service that Jay could not at that time. I know a shock designer at Bilstein ... back to my corner ... :-) Rex - with multiple sets of E36 M3 Bilsteins and custom Koni D/A's in the past. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:16:48 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howie, The SA Koni's with the H&R springs is what we put on my son's '96, 328 and they ride and perform very well (both before and after the addition of the UUC sways). -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:43:56 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TC Kline get there Koni based shocks and struts custom valved and built by Koni. Not actually run them yet...too hot to work on the car, but the quality appears to be excellent. David Ellsworth -----Original Message----- >From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jul 18, 2006 12:45 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [UUC] replacement shocks needed > >Actually, with due respect to Jay, I think that he simply must not know what >he is talking about. Bilstein has offered custom-valved shocks for years >and years (I remember discussing it with Will Turner at least as far back as >10 years ago). Before I heard of Koni's being custom valved. That said, I >am not sure whether Bilstein or Koni do their own custom-valving. I believe >they may farm out the work to aftermarket companies such as Turner and True >Choice. Although, I am not even sure that Turner does their own ... > >I prefer the Koni Sports to the Bilsteins slightly. It is also interesting >to note that for many years Koni practically hid their lifetime warranty >policy, while Bilstein made a big deal of it. I think both are pretty well >known now. > >Stan > > >> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:26:09 -0700 >> From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> My bad... this was a few years ago, so it sounds like things have >> changed. Disregard my last post. I'm going to go sit in a corner >> with a dunce cap on. >> >> > >> >> At a club event we had at >> >> their shop, Jay (owner of Ground Control) >> > >> >> said that Bilstein's >> >> monotube design is better, but you can't get Bilstein to build a >> >> custom valved shock. > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:29:15 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Could it be that Konis are long lived unless you get really unlucky, and also turn the valving all the way up? Who's right here? Strictly matter of opinion. The one Koni failure I had over half a dozen cars, some with over 100k miles on the shocks, happened when I cranked the adjustment all the way. If a car needs valving that tight, then that is not the appropriate application and a stiffer base valving should be used. Currently, 'Jack has 110k miles on his Konis and they're good as they ever were. They might have softened up a touch since new but a nudge tighter on the adjustment can make up for that. Barry >> .<.........> Konis are relatively short lived unless you get really >> lucky. >> >> My 2 centavos. >> -Carlos >> 98 M3 has Konis for now (custom valved for or by tckline) I don't >> expect them to last beyond 2 years > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:34:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: replacement shocks needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm curious if anyone's tried Koni's FSD shocks, whose damping changes depending on how bumpy the road is. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:42:51 -0700 From: "Dave Heckendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Update: E36 suspension Koni settings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ed, I think you've got a transposition of the numbers on the latter... s/b 31 31 2 489 795 Now that I think about it, I'm trying to remember if this part was standard on all US E36 M3s (Coupe/Sedan/Convertible) and only missing from the non-M3 E36s? Also, do folks usually leave this in place when upgrading to adjustable camber plates and/or coil-overs, or does it need to be removed? Oddly enough, the http://www.realoem.com/bmw parts look up doesn't list the cover for the M3 Sedan even though it's in the diagram... Anybody have the RSM reinforcement plate/gasket/etc part numbers handy? Dave On 7/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use the //M3 style strut mount caps that attached over the tops of the > upper strut mount studs, pn# 31 31 2 227 387. > Did you also install the //M3 front sprint strut tower reinforcement 31 > 31 2 498 795 between the upper strut mount and the underside of the stut > tower? > Barry > > Ed MacVaugh wrote: > > > Got the front struts installed, immediately solved my dragging the > > driveway problem. Ride height is up 11 mm on the right, 10 mm on the > > left after a 5 km drive (to my office to pick up recycling and back to > > the house). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:10:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Update: E36 suspension Koni settings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave, Yes, the part # was reversed and you have it correct. The metal support plates for the front struts were used beginning in 3/96. I THINK they were only used on the M cars after that time, but regardless it is good practice to use these plates when replacing suspension components or upgrading to a stiffer aftermarket setup on the M OR non-M cars, as the strut tower can become quite deformed from the increased stiffness of an aftermarket setup. The Bilsteins on my car (8/95 build M3) were an older model of the shock, which suffered from the too-long internal bump stop syndrome, and my shock towers became quite deformed. After disassembling the suspension and trimming the stops, the ride has been a LOT better, but I am very upset that the POs hadn't researched the parts to know about this problem with the Bilsteins before they were ever installed. GRRRR... The Z3 reinforcement plates # is 51-71-8-413-359 per the Matthew C Smith site at http://home.comcast.net/~matthew.c.smith/mods/rear_shock_mount/index.htm The RSM gasket should be the same gasket you'd use for your model car. As for whether to use the front plate with other camber plates etc, I am wondering as well. I don't actually think some of the aftermarket camber setups would fit correctly with the plates in place (or may interfere with being able to adjust the alignment settings correctly), but I leave that to someone with some more knowledge about it. HTH, Brian 95 M3 --- Dave Heckendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed, > > I think you've got a transposition of the numbers on > the latter... s/b > 31 31 2 489 795 > > Now that I think about it, I'm trying to remember if > this part was > standard on all US E36 M3s (Coupe/Sedan/Convertible) > and only missing > from the non-M3 E36s? Also, do folks usually leave > this in place when > upgrading to adjustable camber plates and/or > coil-overs, or does it > need to be removed? > > Oddly enough, the http://www.realoem.com/bmw parts > look up doesn't > list the cover for the M3 Sedan even though it's in > the diagram... > > Anybody have the RSM reinforcement plate/gasket/etc > part numbers handy? > > Dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:15:23 +1000 From: Rob Talevski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Radio Security code Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Had to change the battery on my '98 328i Convertible and now the factory radio (CD Stacker)is asking for the security code. Called the dealer and got the code but it doesn't seem to work??!! Checked the serial number on the radio and verified with dealer that it is the correct code for this exact radio and that the radio was not replaced previously. I have typed in the code but it keeps asking for it again and again. I believe there is a time delay after you enter the wrong code, I have waited for over an hour and typed the code again but still no go. Does anyone know what the procedure is for the radio to accept the code? Thanks for any hints Regards, Robert Sydney Australia ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
