The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 219 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Castrol 10w-60 oil analysis Anyone in Boise? Re: Anyone in Boise? Re: Repairing dorr gaskets? Poseurs for the M name Re: Poseurs for the M name
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:30:51 -0400 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 8/3/06 4:20 PM, "K.C. Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to be late to this party - just got my C&D yesterday. Anyone have a > source to back up (or refute) Bedard's comment about natural sources of CO2 > emitting 30x more than human sources? This comment has me really > intrigued... Even if the statistic he quoted is correct, the conclusion he draws from it doesn't follow. You can have 100 lb in equilibrium on each side of a balance, but add just an ounce or two to one side and it tips. Except that the real situation is believed to be worse, in that global warming is accelerative: as those bright reflective ice sheets melt, more heat is absorbed by the resulting dark water, increasing temperature and melting more ice, etc. The scientific theory that human activity is a significant contributor to the fact of global warming is accepted by most climatologists and by the academies of science of every industrialized country on earth. And they do not ignore, as Bedard disingenuously suggests, the well-known long term (think ice age) and shorter term (think frozen canals in Holland in those Old Master paintings) climate cycles. Now I'm no climatologist and the scientific establishment may be wrong and Bedard right, in which case he can play Galileo and I'll be the Pope. But my observation is that betting against the house is for suckers. Neil E36 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:12:07 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Neil Maller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So, what is your plan? I say we start by turning off all air conditioners. Gary Derian > > Now I'm no climatologist and the scientific establishment may be wrong and > Bedard right, in which case he can play Galileo and I'll be the Pope. But > my > observation is that betting against the house is for suckers. > > Neil > E36 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:30:45 -0500 From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Gary Derian'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Neil Maller'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nah, I vote that we just turn off the airconditioners at Neil's 'house ' , then we'll see justhow long he bets against the 'house' , prtcly when he's in his Papal robes ...and pointy hat and chanting in latin ....(about the no-functioning airus conditionnii ) ... Big Bad Bill the BMW Boy Bill Proud. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Derian Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:12 PM To: Neil Maller; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] So, what is your plan? I say we start by turning off all air conditioners. Gary Derian > > Now I'm no climatologist and the scientific establishment may be wrong > and Bedard right, in which case he can play Galileo and I'll be the > Pope. But my observation is that betting against the house is for > suckers. > > Neil > E36 M3 Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/406 - Release Date: 8/2/06 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:23:40 -0400 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Bill Proud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Gary Derian'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 8/3/06 8:12 PM, Gary Derian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So, what is your plan? I say we start by turning off all air conditioners. But definitely not until next week, please! on 8/3/06 10:30 PM, Bill Proud at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Nah, I vote that we just turn off the airconditioners at Neil's 'house ' > , then we'll see justhow long he bets against the 'house' , prtcly when > he's in his Papal robes ...and pointy hat and chanting in latin > ....(about the no-functioning airus conditionnii ) ... I'll be holding out for Snell approved papal headgear. Neil ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:25:56 -0400 From: Vic Maslanka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I suggest the following for the next GGC driving school. Gotta start somewhere. http://www.infineonraceway.com/news/raceway_news/510543.html Vic At 08:12 PM 8/3/2006, Gary wrote: >So, what is your plan? I say we start by turning off all air conditioners. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:45:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Remember there is always more than meets the eye...actually I am about to tell you it is less that meets the eye that could make or break this world of ours. We have all heard of global warming, mybe we believe it maybe we don't. It is a hard thing to prove at the moment, but I believe we are pushing our limits with what this planet can stand. How many of you have heard of Global Dimming??? Global dimming is much easier to prove, as a simple evaporative test has been being done around the world for decades as part of farmers and ag folks monitoring their moisture loss and gains. Turns out hat as we get hotter due to green house gasses, there is actually les sun reaching the surface of the earth due to increased soot and believe it or not, contrails of jets. In some places the amount of sun falling on the planet has dropped over 16% over the last 20-30 years, many places less, but still measureable changes. One area dropped by 29%, that is a lot. Seems that as we have increased green house gases we have also increased soot and believe it or not it maybe the only thing saving us from runaway green house effect due to the release of the trapped gases you have mentioned. The soot we have put in the air is acting like little mirrors and sunglasses, reflecting and filtering the sun and reducing the intensity. Now imagine this, we do not get the greenhouse gases under control, but we keep forcing cleaner burning fuels...less coal, cleaner diesel, etc. the greenhouse gas we already have starts doing more damage because as we reduce soot, we let more sun in, more sun, stronger greenhous, stronger greenhouse and the bound gases in the biomass and the seas start bubbling up and we sre in deep trouble as the greenhouse effect goes into over drive. Oh I mentioned contrails didn't I. Well one of the egg heads that figured out the global dimming stuff wondered how he could really put his theory to the test. Well, the bad boys from the sand gave him his test, 9/11. When the US grounded all those planes for a few days strange things happened. the skies actually got brighter and more light hit the ground, proven by tests, some new and again that old evaporative test. It seems the contrails made by jets reflect a lot of sun. On satelite picture before and after 9/11 they found times that in high traffic areas like california, that contrails coverd as much as 30-40 % of the area. When the planes were grounded it got brighter, no questions asked. So i believe we do need to cut greenhouse gasses, but we must be very carefull not to cleanup the soot and dust and such too fast, not until the greenhouse gases are under controll if that can ever happen. Maybe those diesels are the answer, but maybe we need to allow them to be a bit smokey after all. Well, I am sure this will stir up some stuff and i will say my % values may be in error as i am going by memory and this intense hit and dim sun has affected my brain and my vision...but research it yourselves. Pretty easy to prove if more or less light hits the ground and it has been proven. Anybody know how to put sunscreen on a planet??? David Ellsworth -----Original Message----- >From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Aug 3, 2006 5:30 PM >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [UUC] OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] > >on 8/3/06 4:20 PM, "K.C. Boyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sorry to be late to this party - just got my C&D yesterday. Anyone have a >> source to back up (or refute) Bedard's comment about natural sources of CO2 >> emitting 30x more than human sources? This comment has me really >> intrigued... > >Even if the statistic he quoted is correct, the conclusion he draws from it >doesn't follow. You can have 100 lb in equilibrium on each side of a >balance, but add just an ounce or two to one side and it tips. Except that >the real situation is believed to be worse, in that global warming is >accelerative: as those bright reflective ice sheets melt, more heat is >absorbed by the resulting dark water, increasing temperature and melting >more ice, etc. > >The scientific theory that human activity is a significant contributor to >the fact of global warming is accepted by most climatologists and by the >academies of science of every industrialized country on earth. And they do >not ignore, as Bedard disingenuously suggests, the well-known long term >(think ice age) and shorter term (think frozen canals in Holland in those >Old Master paintings) climate cycles. > >Now I'm no climatologist and the scientific establishment may be wrong and >Bedard right, in which case he can play Galileo and I'll be the Pope. But my >observation is that betting against the house is for suckers. > >Neil >E36 M3 > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:11:30 -0400 From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, I am sure this will stir up some stuff and i will say my % values may > be in error as i am going by memory and this intense hit and dim sun has > affected my brain and my vision...but research it yourselves. Pretty easy to > prove if more or less light hits the ground and it has been proven. Yes I have heard of it... they're several blogs and articles in the scientific realms (think 'Nature' and 'Scientific American') about how to 'help' keep the planet habitable to humans... one of the scary things is following what volcanoes do... and there are proposals for injecting sulfur dioxide into the high atmosphere (to increase particulates)... when Mt. Pinatubo blew, it lowered the global av. temp by 4F... Just wondering what sort of acid rain that might cause though.... But this was idea #9 of 10 listed... #1 was (don't laugh) a giant space-based 'beach' umbrella for the world. its after 5pm somewhere, now where's my beer? -Jason '86 951 "Sparky" '70 240Z "Dusty" '97 Contour "Bambi" '03 325xi "Daisy" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:08:00 -0500 From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The particulates in the air and greenhouse gasses are playing a balancing act right now, However, we have done a good job of wrangling particulates, so they are in a decline. Ultimately, the Gasses will prevail. Goodbye Greenland ice mass. Remember, chances are that the earth system can handle its own effects like dem dar volcanoes... but it's when you put on top of it what WE are doing that the problems occur. And maybe, just maybe, this is all a natural phenomena, but just in case it isn't, we better take it seriously. Ya, lots of money to be spent. But imagine... what if we do someday find a truly clean energy generation concept and no longer have to waste materials like coal and petroleum that are good for so many other things other than burning? Every portion of the environment plays a part, from the effect of a single tree to an entire rain forest. Every cigarette smoked, every backyard bar-b-q, every lawnmower and leaf blower, every lake of pig shit, every scumball who dumps crankcase oil in the storm sewer. Eventually, we need to reinvent everything and change our behavior. THIS is personal responsibility. There will be no one solution. We need to tackle the diversity of responses... wind, solar, conservation, ethanol, carbon-locking, reducing black-carbon, foot-power, geo-thermal, wave movement, redesigning cities (ie jobs/housing/commuting), electric, reforestation, and yes, even nukes. The end message is and must be, do SOMEthing and NOW. We are behind the 8-ball on this. New energy sources we haven't even imagined will be needed. The energy in everything needs to be harnesses. We're just not smart enough to do it yet. That "force" imagined in Star Wars may be real, we don't know. Maybe someday, we can harness the sub-atomic energies we have only recently learned about through quantum physics research. The power could be infinite. This all is of course, generations away, but only if we get our asses in gear now. Pure research matters. Also remember, each of us can do something now and not effect our personal habits... insulate your house well, use compact florescent bulbs, UNPLUG your instant-on tv/vcr/dvd/computer, get a smaller fridge, try solar cooking, turn off unused lights, walk when you can, consume less/make less garbage, change your ambient home temperature a degree or two, wear a sweater, sleep with dogs, reuse bath water to water the garden, unhook your roof gutters from the storm sewer system, plant a tree or two or three, use gravel instead of concrete or asphalt, don't USE things... use them up, grown your own veggies, use the energy stored in your muscles instead of a machine! All these little things mean little taken one person at a time, but when you multiply it... Hey, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. The trick to the whole thing is... DO IT! If you love your children, this is the best and most important thing you can give them. THEY are the ones who will suffer in 50 years, you and I will be dead. Jenny Morgan PS: Oh yeah, the important part... DEMAND politicians who will vote to save the planet, not ones who vote to enrich bank accounts. When we are dying from a poisoned planet, what good will money be? Think Globally. Act Locally. On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:11 AM, Jason Kay wrote: >> Well, I am sure this will stir up some stuff and i will say my % >> values may be in error as i am going by memory and this intense hit >> and dim sun has affected my brain and my vision...but research it >> yourselves. Pretty easy to prove if more or less light hits the >> ground and it has been proven. > > Yes I have heard of it... they're several blogs and articles in the > scientific realms (think 'Nature' and 'Scientific American') about how > to 'help' keep the planet habitable to humans... one of the scary > things is following what volcanoes do... and there are proposals for > injecting sulfur dioxide into the high atmosphere (to increase > particulates)... when Mt. Pinatubo blew, it lowered the global av. > temp by 4F... > > Just wondering what sort of acid rain that might cause though.... > But this was idea #9 of 10 listed... #1 was (don't laugh) a giant > space-based 'beach' umbrella for the world. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:05:01 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jenny Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OT- Hydrogen, was: tesla (ref: Bedard article)] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Might be. So far, nuclear is the only source we have that doesn't involve burning some carbon based fuel. Gary Derian > > And maybe, just maybe, this is all a natural phenomena, but just in case > it isn't, we better take it seriously. Ya, lots of money to be spent. But > imagine... what if we do someday find a truly clean energy generation > concept and no longer have to waste materials like coal and petroleum that > are good for so many other things other than burning? > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:17:06 -0700 From: "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Castrol 10w-60 oil analysis Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone who uses Castrol 10w-60 ever have their engine oil analyzed at Blackstone Labs or other oil analysis place? Please contact me off line if you have. Thanks, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:50:18 -0700 From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Anyone in Boise? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A friend of mine (E36 325i) is moving to Boise, Idaho. There are no CCA chapters there. Are there any BMW enthusiasts there at all? Will Bill own the only BMW in town? Should he be getting a pickup truck with a gun rack? Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:15:53 -0700 From: "JS Nord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Anyone in Boise? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well..the Inland Empire Chapter (Spokane Washington) isn't that far away. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: [UUC] Anyone in Boise? >A friend of mine (E36 325i) is moving to Boise, Idaho. There are no > CCA chapters there. Are there any BMW enthusiasts there at all? Will > Bill own the only BMW in town? Should he be getting a pickup truck > with a gun rack? > > Scott Miller > GGC BMW CCA > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:01:37 -0500 From: "Bill Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Repairing dorr gaskets? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> << Is there a "best" adhesive-type material to repair a clean slice into a door gasket? Of course I could replace it, but a repair might suffice and is likely to be cheaper.>> 3M makes black gasket cement, really sticky stuff, try that. Bill M. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 11:04:24 -0400 From: Carey Probst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Poseurs for the M name Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just ran across what I thought was an M poseur, an E46 325 with the ///M insignia. On closer look the ///M was not either an M or M3/M5 badge but a dealer badge but without the colors on the ///M, just silver. Anyone familiar with this dealer? Looks pretty tacky to me and I can't remember the dealer name. Want to make sure I never use their deceptive? practices. thanks. Carey -- Carey Probst '99M3 daily driver '86 325 track toy, cammed, chipped, swayed A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 08:10:47 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Poseurs for the M name Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:04 AM 8/4/2006, Carey Probst wrote: I believe these are the work of Momentum BMW in Houston or somesuch place in Texas. >I just ran across what I thought was an M poseur, an E46 325 with >the ///M insignia. > >On closer look the ///M was not either an M or M3/M5 badge but a >dealer badge but without the colors on the ///M, just silver. > >Anyone familiar with this dealer? Looks pretty tacky to me and I >can't remember the dealer name. > >Want to make sure I never use their deceptive? practices. > >thanks. > >Carey > >-- > > >Carey Probst > >'99M3 daily driver > >'86 325 track toy, cammed, chipped, swayed > > >A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, > >the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
