The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 3 : Issue 222 : "text" Format

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  Re: Do SOMETHING!
  Re: Do SOMETHING!
  Re: Do SOMETHING!
  Re: Do SOMETHING!
  Re: Do SOMETHING!
  Re: Do SOMETHING!
  Re: Do SOMETHING!
  <E34> Replacement Radio
  Problem with E39 CD Changer
  Re: Problem with E39 CD Changer
  Re: Problem with E39 CD Changer
  <E46> Rear Wheel Bearing R&R Tool Design.
  850 CSi
  Re: 850 CSi
  Black Double Stick Tape

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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 07:41:41 -0400
From: "john grills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Do SOMETHING!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Note to self...don't enter into a debate with Matt...Although I do like many
of the points that Jenny was putting forward (as they are, forward
thinking). The counterpoints were well stated. Ahh, paradox.

Let's get back to things we could be considered expert on, like how to make
old cars perform...there's common ground there and far less speculation.

r/jpg--(who's even more impressed with the 24 avg mpg on my e36 M3 ;-),
perhaps I need heavier footwear?)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Liu
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 5:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Do SOMETHING!

Bravo, Matt - the funniest, most commonsensical post I've seen on this topic
in awhile.  Dang, that was awesome.

I'll spare everyone my soliloquy on this point, but suffice it to say that
in 4k+ years of human existence, nothing, and I mean nuttin', is superior to
"enlightened self-interest" to motivate human behavior.  

Vty,

--Dennis (who is fairly surprised that he's getting 21 mpg out of his 162k+
miles '95 E38 740iL, despite having a heavy foot and cruising at 85+ mph.
Gosh, imagine how much fuel I'd save at 55 mph?  :-)
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Evans
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UUC] Do SOMETHING!


> Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:08:00 -0500
> From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Remember, chances are that the
> earth system can handle its own effects like dem dar volcanoes... but 
> it's when you put on top of it what WE are doing that the problems 
> occur.

This is not a substantiated conclusion.

> And maybe, just maybe, this is all a natural phenomena, but just in 
> case it isn't, we better take it seriously. Ya, lots of money to be 
> spent. But imagine... what if we do someday find a truly clean energy 
> generation concept and no longer have to waste materials like coal and 
> petroleum that are good for so many other things other than burning?

I think we can count on people's desire to have a higher standard of life
while costing them less real dollars to bring us new energy sources as they
are available.

> Every portion of the environment plays a part, from the effect of a 
> single tree to an entire rain forest. Every cigarette smoked, every 
> backyard bar-b-q, every lawnmower and leaf blower, every lake of pig 
> shit, every scumball who dumps crankcase oil in the storm sewer.
> Eventually, we need to reinvent everything and change our behavior. 
> THIS is personal responsibility.

Don't forget - everyone with a house, everyone that uses electricity,
everyone that works on old cars, everyone that makes the food you and I eat.
I'll start drafting the memo.

> There will be no one solution. We need to tackle the diversity of 
> responses... wind, solar, conservation, ethanol, carbon-locking, 
> reducing black-carbon, foot-power, geo-thermal, wave movement, 
> redesigning cities (ie jobs/housing/commuting), electric, 
> reforestation, and yes, even nukes. The end message is and must be, do 
> SOMEthing and NOW. We are behind the 8-ball on this.

Ah yes, the champions cry of DO SOMETHING.  I don't have a concise argument
to support my position (which puts me in good company given the subject
we're discussing), but I'd wager that a healthy chunk of aggregate badness
has been done to humanity as a result of persons of power that felt the need
to DO SOMETHING when nobody knew wtf to do to begin with.  But hey, as long
as you DO SOMETHING it's progress, right?

> Maybe someday, we can harness the sub-atomic energies we have only 
> recently learned about through quantum physics research. The power 
> could be infinite. This all is of course, generations away,

This of course, is a mathematical impossibility.  Incidentally, what sub
atomic energies do you speak of?  Which subatomic energies have only been
recently learned of?  

> but only if
> we get our asses in gear now. Pure research matters.

So I should be sure and not have any more grilled food so as to not slow
down the pace of particle physics research?  I might need more clarification
here.

> Also remember, each of us can do something now and not effect our 
> personal habits... insulate your house well, use compact florescent 
> bulbs, UNPLUG your instant-on tv/vcr/dvd/computer, get a smaller 
> fridge, try solar cooking, turn off unused lights, walk when you can, 
> consume less/make less garbage, change your ambient home temperature a 
> degree or two, wear a sweater, sleep with dogs, reuse bath water to 
> water the garden, unhook your roof gutters from the storm sewer 
> system, plant a tree or two or three, use gravel instead of concrete 
> or asphalt, don't USE things... use them up, grown your own veggies, 
> use the energy stored in your muscles instead of a machine!

Now here are a few good ideas.  Some of them are ones that I practice.
Thankfully, not because of compulsion by my neighbors or my "elected"
leaders.  Most of these make my bills lower or my life better compared to
the marginal inconvenience they add to my life.

> If you love your children, this is the best and most important thing 
> you can give them. THEY are the ones who will suffer in 50 years, you 
> and I will  be dead.

Excellent!  I was hoping you'd work in a THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
Clause.  I can't decide if I think _that_ phrase has done even more harm to
society than the irrational cry of DO SOMETHING!

> PS: Oh yeah, the important part... DEMAND politicians who will vote to 
> save the planet, not ones who vote to enrich bank accounts.

Do any of us actually think that we're in a position to demand politicians?
Do any of us think that if a vote were taken on "saving the planet" (that
was truly cut and dry and not lobbyist conjecture) that someone would vote
_against_ it?  I haven't spent much time on capitol hill but I don't think
issues like "should we or should we not beat this kitten with a bat" are
seriously debated.  Most politicians seem to agree that kittens should not
be beaten with bats.  Most politicians also agree that the Earth should not
be destroyed.  

> When we are
> dying from a poisoned planet, what good will money be? 

Now I am just being spiteful, but I can think of one use: All that money and
technology will let me fly to a different planet where there are fewer
people that think they know what's best for me.

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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 09:27:46 -0400
From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Do SOMETHING!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Note to self...don't enter into a debate with Matt...Although I do like many 
> of the points that Jenny was putting forward (as they are, forward thinking). 
> The counterpoints were well stated. Ahh, paradox.
> 
> Let's get back to things we could be considered expert on, like how to make 
> old cars perform...there's common ground there and far less speculation.


In that vein, a friend of mine, who also happens to own the local Audi 
dealership stopped by with his new RS4.

nice exhaust note, and the punch from the 400+hp 4.2L V8 was addictive, but at 
$76K just a touch out of my league... I'd still get an M3 and save some serious 
$$ :)

Happy Monday all.

-Jason
'86 951 "Sparky"
'70 240Z "Dusty"
'97 Contour "Bambi"
'03 325xi "Daisy"


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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:28:37 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Do SOMETHING!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I had to laugh last night as I briefly watched the 60 Minutes re-run about
global warming. The laugh was when the reporter says that the Greenland
glaciers "which has been growing every year until the '90's, began to
shrink" and from there of course proceeded to scream that we're all doomed
to drown.
So I can infer that the prospect of growing ice volume is less harmful than
melting ice and that in a brief (let's say 15 year span) we can predict
hockey stick temperature rises without end. Or maybe it's just an innocuous
part of a cycle.

-Kevin




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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 07:59:33 -0700
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Do SOMETHING!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:27 AM, Jason Kay wrote:
>> Note to self...don't enter into a debate with Matt...Although I do  
>> like many of the points that Jenny was putting forward (as they  
>> are, forward thinking). The counterpoints were well stated. Ahh,  
>> paradox.
>>
>> Let's get back to things we could be considered expert on, like  
>> how to make old cars perform...there's common ground there and far  
>> less speculation.
>
> In that vein, a friend of mine, who also happens to own the local  
> Audi dealership stopped by with his new RS4.
>
> nice exhaust note, and the punch from the 400+hp 4.2L V8 was  
> addictive, but at $76K just a touch out of my league... I'd still  
> get an M3 and save some serious $$ :)

Not to mention that the RS4 weighs FOUR THOUSAND POUNDS.  Audi makes  
some really, really nice cars, but 4000 lbs?!

And I thought the E46 M3 had a bit of a weight problem ...

- Mark
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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:11:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Do SOMETHING!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Funny, whenever I talk to my Uncle about modern cars
and their performance, he always says brings up how
heavy the old muscle cars were.  I looked up the
weight of a 65 GTO Conv. w/auto tranny, and Pontiac
had the car listed at 3700 lbs.  This car is 300 lbs
heavier.  The new Ford GT500 is also 4000 lbs. (and it
doesn't even have AWD or even an IRS).

I guess I'm most impressed with how far along brakes
have come since the 60's.

-Paul
95 M3
(2/3 of an RS4)

--- Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:27 AM, Jason Kay wrote:
> >> Note to self...don't enter into a debate with
> Matt...Although I do  
> >> like many of the points that Jenny was putting
> forward (as they  
> >> are, forward thinking). The counterpoints were
> well stated. Ahh,  
> >> paradox.
> >>
> >> Let's get back to things we could be considered
> expert on, like  
> >> how to make old cars perform...there's common
> ground there and far  
> >> less speculation.
> >
> > In that vein, a friend of mine, who also happens
> to own the local  
> > Audi dealership stopped by with his new RS4.
> >
> > nice exhaust note, and the punch from the 400+hp
> 4.2L V8 was  
> > addictive, but at $76K just a touch out of my
> league... I'd still  
> > get an M3 and save some serious $$ :)
> 
> Not to mention that the RS4 weighs FOUR THOUSAND
> POUNDS.  Audi makes  
> some really, really nice cars, but 4000 lbs?!
> 
> And I thought the E46 M3 had a bit of a weight
> problem ...
> 
> - Mark
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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:32:48 -0400
From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "P Kroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Do SOMETHING!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

1) I wouldn't believe factory specs for any car from the 60's.
base weights vs actual as-equipped weights vary wildly, plus
as with engines which were often prepped specially for car
magazines & such, there were probably lighter than normal
"factory" cars floating around as well.

2) the Mustang has a rather heavy iron block engine with
a big heavy supercharger on it.  Audi has a fancy aluminum
engine without any forced induction parts. I'm sure the Mustang's
big Tremec transmission is a lot heavier than the Audi's as well.
of course the Mustang also costs ~$30k less than the Audi as well,
so at least some of the added money for the Audi went into lighter/
smarter design where it made sense.

3) brakes have definitely come a long way.



Ben

Paul wrote:
> Funny, whenever I talk to my Uncle about modern cars
> and their performance, he always says brings up how
> heavy the old muscle cars were.  I looked up the
> weight of a 65 GTO Conv. w/auto tranny, and Pontiac
> had the car listed at 3700 lbs.  This car is 300 lbs
> heavier.  The new Ford GT500 is also 4000 lbs. (and it
> doesn't even have AWD or even an IRS).
>
> I guess I'm most impressed with how far along brakes
> have come since the 60's.

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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:25:31 -0500
From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mark Dadgar'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Do SOMETHING!
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Automobiles are getting like airplanes ...there's so much wire for all
the gizmos , plus all of the connectors (lots of them unused !! But
there just in case ) that they're all suffering middle-aged spread in
terms of weight 

Big Bad Bill the BMW Boy 

Bill Proud.




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Dadgar
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UUC] Do SOMETHING!


On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:27 AM, Jason Kay wrote:
>> Note to self...don't enter into a debate with Matt...Although I do
>> like many of the points that Jenny was putting forward (as they  
>> are, forward thinking). The counterpoints were well stated. Ahh,  
>> paradox.
>>
>> Let's get back to things we could be considered expert on, like
>> how to make old cars perform...there's common ground there and far  
>> less speculation.
>
> In that vein, a friend of mine, who also happens to own the local
> Audi dealership stopped by with his new RS4.
>
> nice exhaust note, and the punch from the 400+hp 4.2L V8 was
> addictive, but at $76K just a touch out of my league... I'd still  
> get an M3 and save some serious $$ :)

Not to mention that the RS4 weighs FOUR THOUSAND POUNDS.  Audi makes  
some really, really nice cars, but 4000 lbs?!

And I thought the E46 M3 had a bit of a weight problem ...

- Mark
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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:00:59 -0500
From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: <E34> Replacement Radio
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello group,
I just purchased a 1991 M5 (highly recommended) and would like to
replace the radio.  I know this is an old thread, but I wondered if
anyone had recently bought one they liked.  For me it must play MP3 Cd's
and look decent in a "vintage" BMW (i.e. minmal goofy video effects and
reddish lights).  I have a Clarion 645 in my E30 and like it well
enough, but it still has graphics flashing and it also seems to have
been designed to forget it was in random play mode each time you turn it
(or the car)off.  Anyone make a recent purchase they're happy with?

Regards,
Paul Craven
1991 M5
1993 325ic - sorta for sale
1999 528it
 


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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:27:09 -0400
From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with E39 CD Changer
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I just installed a Brand New CD Changer (sourced from a BMW Dealership) into 
my wife's 1999 528it (non-DSP radio).

I am running into a small problem and am curious to see if anyone else has 
run into this or if anyone knows what the root cause is.

When I first installed the CD Changer - the head unit did not recognize that 
a CD Changer was installed.  In other words, when I depressed the CD/Tape 
button, it only showed NO TAPE then when I depressed it again the unit went 
back to FM Radio.

The only way that I was able to have the head unit recognize the CD Changer 
was to:

1)  Turn the ignition off
2)  Open up the CD Changer and eject the CD Cartridge
3)  Reinsert the CD Cartridge.

Since that time I have had to perform steps 1 - 3 above everytime that we 
want to hear CDs after the car has been turned off.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dean
1999 740i
1999 528it 


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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:43:32 -0500
From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problem with E39 CD Changer
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I just installed a Brand New CD Changer (sourced from a BMW Dealership) into
> my wife's 1999 528it (non-DSP radio).
>
> I am running into a small problem and am curious to see if anyone else has
> run into this or if anyone knows what the root cause is.

Did you disconnect the battery when you installed the CD changer?  If
not give that a try.  The audio system seems to go through some sort
of component discovery when it first initalizes.  That's my guess and
I am sticking to it.

Regards

-- 
Jamie Howton
2006 M Roadster
2000 M5
1995 M3
Hampshire, IL

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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 15:22:33 -0400
From: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Problem with E39 CD Changer
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jamie,

I appreciate the thought.

I did not disconnect the battery when I installed the CD Changer.  I 
disconnected the battery earlier this afternoon and left it disconnected for 
about 5 minutes.

When I reconnected the battery, I heard the CD changer cycling through the 
CDs, but when I tried to listen to a CD the head unit did not recognize the 
CD Changer.

Thanks,

Dean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dean Boucouras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [UUC] Problem with E39 CD Changer


>> I just installed a Brand New CD Changer (sourced from a BMW Dealership) 
>> into
>> my wife's 1999 528it (non-DSP radio).
>>
>> I am running into a small problem and am curious to see if anyone else 
>> has
>> run into this or if anyone knows what the root cause is.
>
> Did you disconnect the battery when you installed the CD changer?  If
> not give that a try.  The audio system seems to go through some sort
> of component discovery when it first initalizes.  That's my guess and
> I am sticking to it.
>
> Regards
>
> -- 
> Jamie Howton
> 2006 M Roadster
> 2000 M5
> 1995 M3
> Hampshire, IL
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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:11:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: <E46> Rear Wheel Bearing R&R Tool Design.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gruppe:

I am trying to make a tool to R&R the rear wheel bearing on a 99 328i.  
 
Does anyone know what stops the bearing from falling out of the hub towards the 
centerline of the car?  I suspect a circlip (like in my old E30) stops the 
outward movement.  Is there a shoulder in the hub against which you bottom the 
new bearing when you're installing it?  I need this info because I'm trying to 
size a "plate" that'll go behind the bearing and through which a threaded rod 
will be used to pull the bearing out of the hub into a receiving cup.
 
The bearing is just under 3" in outer diameter.  Just under 2-15/16" at a 
reduced shoulder, which may be to set it straight at the start of installation 
or butt it up against a shoulder in the hub.  Don't know.
 
Any observations/comments are very welcome.  Thanks!

Neil Deshpande
92 M5
99 328i

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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:58:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: 850 CSi
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Very nice car, but a little bit out there of a price,
I think.  Perhaps a very sentimental car to the
current owner.  Don't think he'd get this much for it,
despite how rare a car it is.

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/car/191247019.html

Brian
95 M3

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Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:18:54 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 850 CSi
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

49k miles and it needed a clutch?
Barry

Brian Ruiz wrote:

>Very nice car, but a little bit out there of a price,
>I think.  Perhaps a very sentimental car to the
>current owner.  Don't think he'd get this much for it,
>despite how rare a car it is.
>http://sandiego.craigslist.org/car/191247019.html
>Brian  95 M3
>  
>

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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:09:08 -0700
From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Black Double Stick Tape
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Jason wrote:

> gotta love VHB tapes (3M's Very High Bond...)

I've been looking for some black double stick mounting tape to mount my 
(black painted) FasTrack (aka EZ Pass) transponder on my windshield.  I was 
Googling around and only found it in large commercial packs (I don't like 
the white 3M tape but I don't want to spend $100 to get rid of it).  Does 
anyone know a source for small amounts of black mounting tape?

Kevin Kelly
BMW CCA 50039 


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