The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 208 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: E36 M50B25tu down on power Re: E36 M50B25tu down on power Re: tesla (ref: Bedard article) <OT> Why no BMWs in Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island? Re: Why no BMWs in Prince Edward Island? <OT> Why no BMWs in Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island? Re: <OT> Why no BMWs in Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Re: tesla Re: E36 M50B25tu down on power E36 sluggishness
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:22:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 M50B25tu down on power Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, July 24, 2006 11:04 am, Tammer Farid said: > I just talked to > the sister, she's noticed it too. Compared to what? Individual's "butt-dynos" are notoriously unreliable. :-) > Fuel mileage is normal-ish and the car is behaving normally > otherwise. Well, sounds like there's not a lot to be worried about. It just may be a "soft" motor. You could always have compression and leak-down tests performed, to see if there's any issues there. Of course, you could throw a chip & intake at it; that will certainly help "wake it up". I just ran the M3 for a week with the stock airbox in place (recent CA smog check), and boy did the car feel "strangled". Re-installed the JimC intake - ahhhh, much better :-) Jim Bassett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:56:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tammer Farid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 M50B25tu down on power Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Jim Bassett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Compared to what? Individual's "butt-dynos" are > notoriously unreliable. :-) Compared to the last time she had the car on an extended hwy trip, about a month ago. I thought it felt slow the day she dropped it off with me (I had offered to fix up some stuff for her before sending her out to WA state). > Well, sounds like there's not a lot to be worried about. > It just may be a > "soft" motor. You could always have compression and > leak-down tests > performed, to see if there's any issues there. Yeah, I think I'll take along a few tools and a compression tester and check that out. > Of course, you could throw a chip & intake at it; that > will certainly help > "wake it up". I just ran the M3 for a week with the stock > airbox in place > (recent CA smog check), and boy did the car feel > "strangled". Re-installed > the JimC intake - ahhhh, much better :-) Yeah, I nearly did that while the car was with me. :-) Then I figured, it's her money, I'll let her decide! > > Jim Bassett > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder > of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:27:57 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Kirk Lachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMW UUC Digest <[email protected]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: tesla (ref: Bedard article) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The article is in the October 2005 C&D and IMNSHO is the best one ever written on the subject and should be required reading of all politicos, their respective staff, eco warriers, etc. But then, I'm a simple guy who likes nuclear power so I must be wrong. Oh yeah, the MINI Cooper S thing fell flat so I'm searching again...interior materials a bit too *fragile* is about as nice as I can put it. Maybe I'll wait for the Faraday or Marconi electric car instead... Repeat after me: Ohm! Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter 'XX? BMW EXX 3XX or EXX M3 or Segway? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:02:18 -0400 From: Stephan Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bubba >> UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: <OT> Why no BMWs in Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My wife and I just returned from 8 days touring around Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. In all that time we noted precisely three instances of 4-wheeled Bavarian engineering - two Z4s and a 5-series (I'm not sure which one, I don't pay a lot of attention to them, I'm a 3-series guy). We saw a reasonable number of Audis, lots of Mazdas, some VWs, Toyotas, etc., and quite a bit of GM and Ford iron. In fact, the majority seemed to be GM+Ford. So what's up with that? Is there no BMW dealer in these two provinces? Are the cars are simply too expensive for the local populace? Is there a conspiracy to deny the residents access to fine driving hardware? BTW, the Confederation Bridge between New Brunswick and PEI is quite the marvel, about 9 miles long over salt water. The toll is $40.50 Canadian, roughly US$36 at current exchange rates, collected when leaving PEI. Steve '91 318is track toy, I wish we'd had it in Nova Scotia!!! '99 323is getting a new rear wheel bearing thi$ week '04 330xi spousal wunderkar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:09:55 -0400 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bubba >> UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Why no BMWs in Prince Edward Island? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You can see the bridge here: http://www.confederationbridge.com/bridge/bridgecam100_9.asx Notice the camera shakes from the traffic and wind. In the first weekend in August you should see some more BMWs and other cars on PEI: http://www.mmsc.ca/web?service=album/216 Fun event Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephan Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My wife and I just returned from 8 days touring around Nova Scotia and > Prince > Edward Island. In all that time we noted precisely three instances of > 4-wheeled > Bavarian engineering - two Z4s and a 5-series (I'm not sure which one, I > don't > pay a lot of attention to them, I'm a 3-series guy). We saw a reasonable > number > of Audis, lots of Mazdas, some VWs, Toyotas, etc., and quite a bit of GM > and > Ford iron. In fact, the majority seemed to be GM+Ford. > > So what's up with that? Is there no BMW dealer in these two provinces? > Are the > cars are simply too expensive for the local populace? Is there a > conspiracy to > deny the residents access to fine driving hardware? > > BTW, the Confederation Bridge between New Brunswick and PEI is quite the > marvel, > about 9 miles long over salt water. The toll is $40.50 Canadian, roughly > US$36 > at current exchange rates, collected when leaving PEI. > > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:11:48 -0400 From: "Whit Lowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <OT> Why no BMWs in Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Island? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Really O/T: IMHO, PEI was a much more impressive place when there was no bridge. Best, whit On 7/24/06, Stephan Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My wife and I just returned from 8 days touring around Nova Scotia and Prince > Edward Island. In all that time we noted precisely three instances of > 4-wheeled > Bavarian engineering - two Z4s and a 5-series (I'm not sure which one, I don't > pay a lot of attention to them, I'm a 3-series guy). We saw a reasonable > number > of Audis, lots of Mazdas, some VWs, Toyotas, etc., and quite a bit of GM and > Ford iron. In fact, the majority seemed to be GM+Ford. > > So what's up with that? Is there no BMW dealer in these two provinces? Are > the > cars are simply too expensive for the local populace? Is there a conspiracy > to > deny the residents access to fine driving hardware? > > BTW, the Confederation Bridge between New Brunswick and PEI is quite the > marvel, > about 9 miles long over salt water. The toll is $40.50 Canadian, roughly > US$36 > at current exchange rates, collected when leaving PEI. > > Steve > > '91 318is track toy, I wish we'd had it in Nova Scotia!!! > '99 323is getting a new rear wheel bearing thi$ week > '04 330xi spousal wunderkar > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:39:36 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <OT> Why no BMWs in Nova Scotia or Prince Edward Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:02 PM 7/24/2006, Stephan Goldstein wrote: I've only been to Vancouver, but even there, I hardly saw any BMWs, and the dealerships are puny. But I could make the same observations about no BMWs and lots of domestic iron from the time I spent a week in St. Louis, not exactly the most backwards place in this country. In Canada, though, I do think it's cost. The income levels, and the associated costs of living in Canada seem quite a bit lower than, say, here in Southern California. But then again, I live in "The OC" where there are more AMGs and M cars than most places have Caddies and Lincolns. >My wife and I just returned from 8 days touring around Nova Scotia and Prince >Edward Island. In all that time we noted precisely three instances >of 4-wheeled >Bavarian engineering - two Z4s and a 5-series (I'm not sure which one, I don't >pay a lot of attention to them, I'm a 3-series guy). We saw a >reasonable number >of Audis, lots of Mazdas, some VWs, Toyotas, etc., and quite a bit of GM and >Ford iron. In fact, the majority seemed to be GM+Ford. > >So what's up with that? Is there no BMW dealer in these two >provinces? Are the >cars are simply too expensive for the local populace? Is there a >conspiracy to >deny the residents access to fine driving hardware? Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:00:48 -0700 From: "Davy Chou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What is PPG stands for? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bassett Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement On Mon, July 24, 2006 10:34 am, Stan Jackson Jr. said: > Are there any important tips > to remind the installer of when replacing a winshield on an E36 M3 4-Door? I don't recall anything specific the 3 times I've replaced mine :-) > This car is in extremely good condition, hence the desire to do the best > possible job with BMW glass on the windshield. IMO, you want PPG-branded glass. A bit more "chip resistant" than BMW glass. Otherwise, exactly the same. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - ready for 'shield #4 1993 325is #44 JP Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:03:40 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Davy Chou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pittsburgh Plate Glass.......I think. Clarence West Bend, WI Davy Chou wrote: > What is PPG stands for? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bassett > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:47 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement > > On Mon, July 24, 2006 10:34 am, Stan Jackson Jr. said: >> Are there any important tips >> to remind the installer of when replacing a winshield on an E36 M3 > 4-Door? > > I don't recall anything specific the 3 times I've replaced mine :-) > >> This car is in extremely good condition, hence the desire to do the > best >> possible job with BMW glass on the windshield. > > IMO, you want PPG-branded glass. A bit more "chip resistant" than BMW > glass. Otherwise, exactly the same. > > Cheers, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 - ready for 'shield #4 > 1993 325is #44 JP > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > __ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW > CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:05:10 -0400 From: "Bill Bauman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pretty sure it's Pittsburg Paint and Glass. Bill Davy Chou wrote: > What is PPG stands for? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:32:07 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 12:03 PM 7/24/2006, Clarence wrote: Sounds right to me. And I agree about specing PPG over OE, so long as fit is correct. American glass seems far less prone to chipping than the European brands. >Pittsburgh Plate Glass.......I think. > >Clarence >West Bend, WI > >Davy Chou wrote: >>What is PPG stands for? >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bassett >>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:47 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [UUC] E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement >>On Mon, July 24, 2006 10:34 am, Stan Jackson Jr. said: >>>Are there any important tips >>>to remind the installer of when replacing a winshield on an E36 M3 >>4-Door? >>I don't recall anything specific the 3 times I've replaced mine :-) >> >>>This car is in extremely good condition, hence the desire to do the >>best >>>possible job with BMW glass on the windshield. >>IMO, you want PPG-branded glass. A bit more "chip resistant" than BMW >>glass. Otherwise, exactly the same. >>Cheers, >>Jim Bassett >>1998 M3/4 - ready for 'shield #4 >>1993 325is #44 JP >>Search the >>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >>________________________________________________________________________ >>__ >>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW >>CCA. >>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> >>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >>__________________________________________________________________________ >>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:13:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 M3 4-Door Windshield Replacement Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, July 24, 2006 12:00 pm, Davy Chou said: > What is PPG stands for? Dunno - it's a brand-name. http://corporateportal.ppg.com/ppg Jim Bassett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:15:58 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: tesla Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ryan, Remember this too.......... Coal fired plants put out more cumulative uranium, thorium, and mercury than any nuke. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:16:44 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E36 M50B25tu down on power Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Donna S wrote: > I drive Bill's '97 M3 pretty regularly. It's even worse than the > slushboxes, since it's way too easy to go way too fast for the > comfort of > other drivers and law enforcement. I believe Jim B and Peter G can > attest > to the latter. :) <shrug> I owned an E36 M3 daily driver for 5 years. No tickets during that time. Control yourself. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:17:44 -0400 From: "Ryan Brenneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: E36 sluggishness Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tammer If you want a sluggish E36 try a non-vanos 325. Nothing at all until 4500 and then screams to the redline. If your vanos car really isn't coming on until 4500 then I too would suspect something. Even my 93 525 wagon with a slushbox picks up significantly by 3500. But a sticky vanos unit would be pretty obvious. My wagon with 275k on it has a vanos unit that sometimes hangs in the high rpm setting. When the revs come back down it idles like a really cammed up V8. Then the next time you stop it is normal. But it is pretty obvious. If the mileage is down a bit what about the O2 sensor? When was the last time it was replaced. They can be still functional enough to not pop a CE light but be off enough to drop mileage and hurt power. Did you or anyone pull the codes out of the ECU? See if anything is stored there. Pull the MAF sensor out and clean it with electrical parts cleaner. Sometimes they pick up enough fuzz or oil to work at less than %100. Another way to look at it would be to put it on the dyno for a run with air fuel ratio being recorded. I would do that before I started just throwing parts at it. Many more places are getting dynos these days and usually you can find one offering 3 pulls for $50. A look at the power curve would give some info as to weather it was truly down on power and the A/F ratios would tell you if it the engine management is doing it's job. You can compare your charts to others and see if there is a problem. At $50 it is pretty cheap diagnostics. Run one run at WOT and then another at 7/8ths throttle staying out of the ECUs WOT enrichment maps and keeping the O2 sensor in the loop. Just an idea. Ryan B. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
