The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 175 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week E36 Suspension Questions Re: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week Re: My new lift comes this week (OT) Re: My new lift comes this week (OT) Re: My new lift comes this week (OT) German automakers' tech design flaws
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:04:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 318ti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC <[email protected]> Subject: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just want to say thanks to those who gave me feed back on my questions about a lift to work on my 318ti and other vehicles. I was very fortunate to find a fully Made in America lift at a local supplier. I had tried to find a non-imported lift and found that an almost impossible task and thought I had found one only to find it too was made in China. The one I am waiting to be deliverd later this week is a mid-rise 6,000 lb lift made by Whip Industries of Texas, a Native American Company. I saw it today and it was a joy to see that the American product was so much nicer than the imports. Now the sad news, it is no longer made. Mine is NOS and fully waranteed, but no longer made. Whip could not continue to produce it here and keep up with the imports prices. Unlike others they decided to stop making it instead of importing a copy. It is a sad shame that a good company making a good product has to drop it for a few dollars that somebody is unwilling to pay for quality. I was able to get mine for just about the same cost as the Bend-pak and it's clones would cost deliverd. Mine is being deliverd free. Once I put it to use I will post another update. David in Richmond, VA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:34:43 -0500 From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 318ti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Welcome to the wal-marting of America... Just keep giving out those tax cuts to Paris Hilton! Jenny On Jun 19, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Maverick wrote: > Just want to say thanks to those who gave me feed back on my questions > about a lift to work on my 318ti and other vehicles. > > I was very fortunate to find a fully Made in America lift at a local > supplier. I had tried to find a non-imported lift and found that an > almost impossible task and thought I had found one only to find it too > was made in China. The one I am waiting to be deliverd later this > week is a mid-rise 6,000 lb lift made by Whip Industries of Texas, a > Native American Company. I saw it today and it was a joy to see that > the American product was so much nicer than the imports. > > Now the sad news, it is no longer made. Mine is NOS and fully > waranteed, but no longer made. Whip could not continue to produce it > here and keep up with the imports prices. Unlike others they decided > to stop making it instead of importing a copy. It is a sad shame that > a good company making a good product has to drop it for a few dollars > that somebody is unwilling to pay for quality. I was able to get mine > for just about the same cost as the Bend-pak and it's clones would > cost deliverd. Mine is being deliverd free. > > Once I put it to use I will post another update. > > David in Richmond, VA > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > ___ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW > CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:04:57 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think Paris has seen the inside of a WalMart. Ed Jenny Morgan wrote: > Welcome to the wal-marting of America... > > Just keep giving out those tax cuts to Paris Hilton! > > Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:06:10 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Jun 19, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ed MacVaugh wrote: > I don't think Paris has seen the inside of a WalMart. If they didn't sell Mobil 1, how many people here would have, either? - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:13:19 -0700 From: Donna S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I used to take great pride in never setting foot in a Walmart. Then on a 100+ weekend at Thunderhill, I needed some thin cheap clothing... Donna On 6/19/06 9:06 PM, "Mark Dadgar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 19, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ed MacVaugh wrote: >> I don't think Paris has seen the inside of a WalMart. > > If they didn't sell Mobil 1, how many people here would have, either? > > - Mark > ----- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:31:11 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Maverick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So it was made by undocumented Mexicans rather than Chinese. I worked a case where a guy spend extra to buy a made-in-US low rise lift. It was a total POS and failed, pinning him under the car. This doesn't mean the Chinese lifts are better. Gary Derian > I was very fortunate to find a fully Made in America lift at a local > supplier. I had tried to find a non-imported lift and found that an > almost impossible task and thought I had found one only to find it too was > made in China. The one I am waiting to be deliverd later this week is a > mid-rise 6,000 lb lift made by Whip Industries of Texas, a Native American > Company. I saw it today and it was a joy to see that the American product > was so much nicer than the imports. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:46:57 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: E36 Suspension Questions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a 328i four door sedan with the "Motorsport Sport Suspension" package. I am replacing the tie rod ends and the front control arms as well as a new set of tires. Those parts are the same as the non-Motorsports suspension. Is there a benefit to using E36 M3 control arm bushings? Also, the car has 140k miles on it, what needs attention in the rear suspension? Ed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:05:03 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You wouldn't dare lift an imported car with that lift, would you? It's probably best to lift only Pontiacs, the cars named after a proud Native American... although many of the Pontiacs are manufactured in Canada. Oops, I guess they're imports also. In all seriousness, heavy-gauge welded products are one area where I might prefer Chinese. China has a long history of producing bone-simple iron products and their success in the lift, bicycle/motorcycle frame, coal-powered train, and other similarly welding-intensive industries is not simply due to cost; it's due to experience. I'd like to see the blind battle cries of "buy American!" replaced with "We're Americans, let's try to build it better and deserve the world's business!" What a novel idea; earn instead of demand. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The one I am waiting to be deliverd later this week is a > mid-rise 6,000 lb lift made by Whip Industries of Texas, a > Native American Company. - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks * 908-874-9092 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:32:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], 318ti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am glad to see I have not lost my ability to rile people up. I know it may seem that I am import bashing or anti-Chinese, I assure you I am not. I like most people base their opinions and views on personal experiences, and that is the case here. I do buy Chinese made goods, almost impossible to live and not these days, and find some of them to be outstanding bargains and of excellent quality. I have however seen the workmanship put into a Chinese built lift of a co-worker and after seeing that, decided that if possible I would buy mine from another source. It was a bad weld that failed, fortunately in a non-critical at the time part. I examined that weld and it was obvious that the part was not properly relieved for the bead; it was welded when dirty, it lacked penetration and it contained a very high level of slag and porosity. A very bad weld indeed. My father, whom I wish was alive to consult with, was an expert at metallurgy and some has rubbed off on me. After seeing that weld and looking at my 5800lb GMC truck and picturing the possibilities, I made the decision to look for a quality made product form wherever and realized that it would likely be an import. I did find the lift I purchased and I believe I see a better than average quality product. The fact that it is made here is a plus to me it means I have not got to get a passport or go so far to punch somebody in the nose if it fails and I survive. As far as being a Native American product, that to is a plus to me as I am part Native American myself and they have a long tradition of being good ironworkers many a tall building and bridge were built by barefoot Indians. If AC had made a lift that would be suitable I would have jumped at it, and it is made in Denmark. The Internet is not the best place to really get to know someone and what they are all about. If you really knew me and what I stand for you would likely have responded differently, but I hold no grudge or malice. To know me is to dislike me, but for the right reasons. David Ellsworth in Richmond, VA -----Original Message----- >From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jun 19, 2006 11:04 PM >To: 318ti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC <[email protected]> >Subject: [UUC] My new lift comes this week > >Just want to say thanks to those who gave me feed back on my questions about a >lift to work on my 318ti and other vehicles. > >I was very fortunate to find a fully Made in America lift at a local supplier. > I had tried to find a non-imported lift and found that an almost impossible >task and thought I had found one only to find it too was made in China. The >one I am waiting to be deliverd later this week is a mid-rise 6,000 lb lift >made by Whip Industries of Texas, a Native American Company. I saw it today >and it was a joy to see that the American product was so much nicer than the >imports. > >Now the sad news, it is no longer made. Mine is NOS and fully waranteed, but >no longer made. Whip could not continue to produce it here and keep up with >the imports prices. Unlike others they decided to stop making it instead of >importing a copy. It is a sad shame that a good company making a good product >has to drop it for a few dollars that somebody is unwilling to pay for >quality. I was able to get mine for just about the same cost as the Bend-pak >and it's clones would cost deliverd. Mine is being deliverd free. > >Once I put it to use I will post another update. > >David in Richmond, VA >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:46:36 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Careful Rob, Facts/Reality are usually unpopular in places like these. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #052 TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [UUC] My new lift comes this week > You wouldn't dare lift an imported car with that lift, would > you? > > It's probably best to lift only Pontiacs, the cars named > after a proud Native American... although many of the > Pontiacs are manufactured in Canada. Oops, I guess they're > imports also. > > In all seriousness, heavy-gauge welded products are one area > where I might prefer Chinese. China has a long history of > producing bone-simple iron products and their success in the > lift, bicycle/motorcycle frame, coal-powered train, and > other similarly welding-intensive industries is not simply > due to cost; it's due to experience. > > I'd like to see the blind battle cries of "buy American!" > replaced with "We're Americans, let's try to build it better > and deserve the world's business!" > > What a novel idea; earn instead of demand. > > - Rob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> The one I am waiting to be deliverd later this week is a >> mid-rise 6,000 lb lift made by Whip Industries of Texas, a >> Native American Company. > > - Rob Levinson > UUC Motorwerks * 908-874-9092 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:58:59 -1000 From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WHAT?!? and have to work harder?!? that just goes against the american way of life... *the above post contains sarcasm for the sarcasm-impaired* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What a novel idea; earn instead of demand. > > - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:42:51 -0400 From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week (OT) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I used to take great pride in never setting foot in a Walmart. Then on a > 100+Â weekend at Thunderhill, I needed some thin cheap clothing... I too used to take pride in never setting foot in Walmart, then I (briefly) worked for a consumer goods company (gerber baby food) and work *required* me to go... (I still don't buy anything there)... I always felt like I needed a shower when I left. In the same vein, Home Depot also sells seconds and generally lower quality stuff than my local hardware store... which is, uh, local, and not that much more expensive... (don't believe me that the quality is different, check the part numbers on, say a drill or fawcet at HD vs anywhere else, and the part numbers are different... (Is it Friday yet? :) -Jason '86 951 "Sparky" '70 240Z "Dusty" '97 Contour "Bambi" '03 325xi "Daisy" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:59:07 -0400 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week (OT) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think any of the larger merchandisers, who control the accessories included in the package, size of the box, and such, get unique part numbers. I know in consumer electronics, Circuit City and Best Buy, get unique numbers so folks can't price match, not because the quality is better or worse. Jason Kay wrote: > In the same vein, Home Depot also sells seconds and generally lower quality > stuff than my local hardware store... which is, uh, local, and not that much > more expensive... (don't believe me that the quality is different, check the > part numbers on, say a drill or fawcet at HD vs anywhere else, and the part > numbers are different... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:31:19 -0400 From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: My new lift comes this week (OT) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> not still the situation on TV's from what I've seen. same model numbers everywhere - online, local non-CC/BB, CC/BB, etc - all have the same models. perhaps not the case for everything, but in all the DLP/DLP-alike sets I've looked at they have the same ones everywhere. Ben Ed wrote: > I think any of the larger merchandisers, who control the accessories > included in the package, size of the box, and such, get unique part > numbers. I know in consumer electronics, Circuit City and Best Buy, get > unique numbers so folks can't price match, not because the quality is > better or worse. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:03:14 -0400 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: German automakers' tech design flaws Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >From CNET: "Tech design flaws hit Mercedes, BMW, and Audi in J. D. Power's 2006 study This year's influential Initial Quality Study (IQS) from J. D. Power was surprising for the poor showing from three of the leading German carmakers. Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and Audi--widely respected as titans of engineering and pioneers in car tech--all suffered a considerable drop in the nameplate rankings, with BMW slipping from 3rd to 28th and Mercedes falling by a similar margin, from 6th to 26th. Audi skidded from 8th place last year to 19th in 2006. So what was behind this sudden slump? It turns out that this year's IQS factored in a whole new set of data on design flaws, which included the usability of each car's cabin technology. And it will come as little surprise to those who have spent hours wrangling with the iDrive and COMAND (BMW and Mercedes's driver interfaces, respectively) that the results show the integration of many advanced technology systems leaving quite a bit to be desired. In the list of the "most troublesome design failure problems," BMW drivers identified the "difficult to use" and "poorly located" front audio and entertainment system as their number one complaint. Third on their list was the location and usability of the Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning (HVAC) system, with the inability of the voice-recognition system to understand commands and the placement and usability of cup holders rounding out the list of top five gripes." Read the complete article here: <http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6543837.html?tag=cnetfd.sd> Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
