On 6/25/2012 2:29 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/25/2012 10:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
For the reasoning, we don't have to attribute two first person povs
to one 3-viewed machine, but to attribute one first person povs to
two different 3-viewed machine, and eventually number relations.
It looks like you want me to believe that the relation of mind and
machine is one-one, by telling me to give an example of 2 different
minds for one machine, which we agree is impossible,
But of course we can have two minds attributed to the same brain -
just not at the same (3p) time. A computer can be used to run two
different AI programs, and even mutlitask them. And some people
exhibit mutliple-presonality disorder. If thoughts are discrete
things, do they come with markers. If you had multiple-personalities
would you always know which personality you were at a given moment?
but this does not mean that we cannot attach one mind to two
different machines, or to two identical (similar at the subst. level)
machine put in different environment, like Sidney and Beijing, for
example.
It is crucially important, because machine cannot know in which
computations there are among the infinities which exists in the
solution of a universal diophantine equation, and in a sense, she
belongs to all those computations that she cannot distinguishes. That
makes a big infinity.
An infinite-personality disorder.
Brent
Hi Brent,
Bingo! This is the problem of Immaterialism, an
'infinite-personality disorder". It cannot know what it is therefore it
is nothing at all. Only the transitive (non-infinitely persistent)
association with a physical system breaks the infinite perfect symmetry
of the Nothingness of the Immaterial soul. In Buddhism we see the
reversal idea: One seeks to stop existing by escaping the recursive
incarnation in the physical.
--
Onward!
Stephen
"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
~ Francis Bacon
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