But Bruno, because of the measure problem, MWI must also be probabilistic, otherwise it does not agree with experiment. Richard
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 12 Apr 2013, at 03:30, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:29:51 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> If matter is deterministic, how could it behave in a random way? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> It couldn't. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Are you saying then that matter is random, or that it is neither random >>> nor >>> deterministic? >>> >> >> Matter behaves randomly, but probability theory allows us to make >> predictions about random events. >> > > > But with QM without collapse, matter does not behave randomly. The SWE is > deterministic. > We are multiplied, and the randomness comes from the first person > perspective. > Comp extends this. The SWE itself emerges from the first person > perspective of the person supervening on the arithmetical relation defining > computations. > > Bruno > > > > > >> >> -- >> Stathis Papaioannou >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to >> everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%[email protected]> >> . >> To post to this group, send email to >> everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >> . >> For more options, visit >> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >> . >> >> >> > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~**marchal/ <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/> > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%[email protected]> > . > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
