On 12 Apr 2013, at 03:30, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:


On Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:29:51 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:

If matter is deterministic, how could it behave in a random way?


It couldn't.


Are you saying then that matter is random, or that it is neither random nor
deterministic?

Matter behaves randomly, but probability theory allows us to make
predictions about random events.


But with QM without collapse, matter does not behave randomly. The SWE is deterministic. We are multiplied, and the randomness comes from the first person perspective. Comp extends this. The SWE itself emerges from the first person perspective of the person supervening on the arithmetical relation defining computations.

Bruno






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