And HOW do you know all that? On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 6:13 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you feel pain then that feeling is directly related to the deaths of > the creatures who didn't become your ancestors because of a lack of feeling > for that same pain. > So, you are actually experiencing the deaths of these creatures. > > Saibal > > > Citeren John Mikes <[email protected]>: > > > Russell and Richard: >> do you indeed MEAN those conditions recalled after crises as NEAR DEATH? >> Who knows what DEATH feels like? (- if it feels at all). Death is >> a-temporal in the sense we use it, also a-spatial, so nothing can be >> "near" >> it in either sense. >> >> The dissolution of the 'living' complexity (=death?) may not be an >> annihilation - it may be a reorganization of some of the ingredients (if >> we >> accept our image of those complexities). >> So partial components may 'live-on' in combination to other 'complexity' >> groups. That gives an un-limitable possibility to have contact (in some >> details?) with experiences/memories of deceased persons. (This is not a >> statement, just a hint how 'spiritistic' experiences may occur). >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Russell Standish <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> My guess is that his primary concern is to develop the medical >>> technology to resuscitate patients in critical conditions - ie by >>> lowering the temperatue of the brain to prevent irreversible brain >>> damage whilst allowing sufficient time for the heart damage to be >>> repaired, etc. This is all a worthwhile aim of itself. >>> >>> That it also gives him the opportunity to perform some simple >>> experimental tests of some of the more outrageous NDE claims, is >>> simply icing on the cake. It's good that he has a sufficiently open >>> mind to think of tests. I have heard (from somewhere unsubstantiated, >>> no doubt), that the tests have turned up nothing startling, but whether >>> it does or not, it's still interesting science. >>> >>> It reminds my of a scientific investigation I performed into the >>> effects of pyramids on razor blade when I was at uni. Its the only >>> time I've really dabbled with woo. I not only got a negative result >>> (no significant difference between the treated blades, and controls), >>> but interestingly, I found a potential explanation of the effect. Both >>> control blades and treated blades lasted longer and were subjectively >>> sharper than the blades I used before the experiment. If I hadn't done >>> a controlled experiment, I would have concluded the effect to be real. >>> >>> I published the experiment in a local student magazine (it wasn't >>> nearly rigourous enough for peer review), and the reaction I got from my >>> colleagues was quite interesting - generally very supportive, as a >>> matter of fact. I wonder if that would have been the case if I had >>> found a positive result. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 09:12:44AM -0400, [email protected] wrote: >>> > You could be correct that Parnia's study is buried in double-talk. >>> Usually if scientists reach a dead-end, during testing they abandon the >>> thesis. If what he is doing, is little more, then looking for unicorns, >>> then yes, its a dead end (pun?) and we will see in November. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In a message dated 5/19/2013 6:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> > Since the study has been going on five years, and there has been no >>> leak >>> of a positive result, I expect that there are no positive results to >>> report. I find it hard to imagine that an amazing positive result, that >>> would be known to several members of a medical team, could be kept >>> secret. >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ---------------- >>> Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) >>> Principal, High Performance Coders >>> Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] >>> University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ---------------- >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to >>> everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%[email protected]> >>> . >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >>> . >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >>> . >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to >> everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%[email protected]> >> . >> To post to this group, send email to >> everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >> . >> For more options, visit >> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >> . >> >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%[email protected]> > . > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<[email protected]> > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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