Indeed I have had such an experience with a deceased person. Richard
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > Russell and Richard: > do you indeed MEAN those conditions recalled after crises as NEAR DEATH? > Who knows what DEATH feels like? (- if it feels at all). Death is > a-temporal in the sense we use it, also a-spatial, so nothing can be "near" > it in either sense. > > The dissolution of the 'living' complexity (=death?) may not be an > annihilation - it may be a reorganization of some of the ingredients (if we > accept our image of those complexities). > So partial components may 'live-on' in combination to other 'complexity' > groups. That gives an un-limitable possibility to have contact (in some > details?) with experiences/memories of deceased persons. (This is not a > statement, just a hint how 'spiritistic' experiences may occur). > > > > > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Russell Standish > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> My guess is that his primary concern is to develop the medical >> technology to resuscitate patients in critical conditions - ie by >> lowering the temperatue of the brain to prevent irreversible brain >> damage whilst allowing sufficient time for the heart damage to be >> repaired, etc. This is all a worthwhile aim of itself. >> >> That it also gives him the opportunity to perform some simple >> experimental tests of some of the more outrageous NDE claims, is >> simply icing on the cake. It's good that he has a sufficiently open >> mind to think of tests. I have heard (from somewhere unsubstantiated, >> no doubt), that the tests have turned up nothing startling, but whether >> it does or not, it's still interesting science. >> >> It reminds my of a scientific investigation I performed into the >> effects of pyramids on razor blade when I was at uni. Its the only >> time I've really dabbled with woo. I not only got a negative result >> (no significant difference between the treated blades, and controls), >> but interestingly, I found a potential explanation of the effect. Both >> control blades and treated blades lasted longer and were subjectively >> sharper than the blades I used before the experiment. If I hadn't done >> a controlled experiment, I would have concluded the effect to be real. >> >> I published the experiment in a local student magazine (it wasn't >> nearly rigourous enough for peer review), and the reaction I got from my >> colleagues was quite interesting - generally very supportive, as a >> matter of fact. I wonder if that would have been the case if I had >> found a positive result. >> >> Cheers >> >> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 09:12:44AM -0400, [email protected] wrote: >> > You could be correct that Parnia's study is buried in double-talk. >> Usually if scientists reach a dead-end, during testing they abandon the >> thesis. If what he is doing, is little more, then looking for unicorns, >> then yes, its a dead end (pun?) and we will see in November. >> > >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 5/19/2013 6:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> > Since the study has been going on five years, and there has been no >> leak of a positive result, I expect that there are no positive results to >> report. I find it hard to imagine that an amazing positive result, that >> would be known to several members of a medical team, could be kept secret. >> > >> >> -- >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) >> Principal, High Performance Coders >> Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] >> University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
