If you feel pain then that feeling is directly related to the deaths of
the creatures who didn't become your ancestors because of a lack of
feeling for that same pain.
So, you are actually experiencing the deaths of these creatures.
Saibal
Citeren John Mikes <[email protected]>:
Russell and Richard:
do you indeed MEAN those conditions recalled after crises as NEAR DEATH?
Who knows what DEATH feels like? (- if it feels at all). Death is
a-temporal in the sense we use it, also a-spatial, so nothing can be "near"
it in either sense.
The dissolution of the 'living' complexity (=death?) may not be an
annihilation - it may be a reorganization of some of the ingredients (if we
accept our image of those complexities).
So partial components may 'live-on' in combination to other 'complexity'
groups. That gives an un-limitable possibility to have contact (in some
details?) with experiences/memories of deceased persons. (This is not a
statement, just a hint how 'spiritistic' experiences may occur).
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Russell Standish
<[email protected]>wrote:
My guess is that his primary concern is to develop the medical
technology to resuscitate patients in critical conditions - ie by
lowering the temperatue of the brain to prevent irreversible brain
damage whilst allowing sufficient time for the heart damage to be
repaired, etc. This is all a worthwhile aim of itself.
That it also gives him the opportunity to perform some simple
experimental tests of some of the more outrageous NDE claims, is
simply icing on the cake. It's good that he has a sufficiently open
mind to think of tests. I have heard (from somewhere unsubstantiated,
no doubt), that the tests have turned up nothing startling, but whether
it does or not, it's still interesting science.
It reminds my of a scientific investigation I performed into the
effects of pyramids on razor blade when I was at uni. Its the only
time I've really dabbled with woo. I not only got a negative result
(no significant difference between the treated blades, and controls),
but interestingly, I found a potential explanation of the effect. Both
control blades and treated blades lasted longer and were subjectively
sharper than the blades I used before the experiment. If I hadn't done
a controlled experiment, I would have concluded the effect to be real.
I published the experiment in a local student magazine (it wasn't
nearly rigourous enough for peer review), and the reaction I got from my
colleagues was quite interesting - generally very supportive, as a
matter of fact. I wonder if that would have been the case if I had
found a positive result.
Cheers
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 09:12:44AM -0400, [email protected] wrote:
> You could be correct that Parnia's study is buried in double-talk.
Usually if scientists reach a dead-end, during testing they abandon the
thesis. If what he is doing, is little more, then looking for unicorns,
then yes, its a dead end (pun?) and we will see in November.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/19/2013 6:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
> Since the study has been going on five years, and there has been no leak
of a positive result, I expect that there are no positive results to
report. I find it hard to imagine that an amazing positive result, that
would be known to several members of a medical team, could be kept secret.
>
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