John, please understand from the Christian pov, that this (Christianity) is an attempt to sustain life beyond death, and so far this has been the only option for them . Jesus, for them, is the ticket out of the tragedies, and suffering, in life. Its an attempt to try to make things better, for the people they care for, and themselves. I don't see this as a philosophical arm wrresting match between Darwin and Jesus. This is the only ticket to get out of suffering-free card, and unless you have something, better, to offer, why would they give all that up? You can apply this statement, and double-down on it with Islam-which explains, the reason for jihad. I respect your point of view intellectually, and I suspect it is how our limbic systems are wired, rather then indoctrination before potty training. Some are just naturally less troubled by tragedy, or deal with it more, successfully, than the religious??
Mitch -----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 12:51 pm Subject: Re: Re: the love torture On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Religion is about sacrifices. I know, religion is big on sacrifices, especially Christianity, and that's the problem. It seems to me that a good rule of thumb is be suspicious of any religion who's most sacred symbol is a torture device. I suppose if Jesus had been executed in more recent times people would be wearing little gold electric chairs on chains around their neck. > the sacrifice of Christ free us from our own sacrifices. So God was so mad at the entire human race (because one of its members ate an apple when told not to) that he was prepared to torture every single one of them for an infinite number of years (but he loves you). And the only way to prevent this is for God to forgive humanity, but even though God can do anything the only way He could make Himself forgive humanity is for humanity to torture His son (who is really Himself) to death. The one and only reason that millions of adult and otherwise sane human beings believe the above load of crap is because mommy and daddy told them that from before they were properly potty trained. And that is why the devote are so keen on early religious training for children, it is the only way to get over the giggle factor. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.