On 05 Jan 2014, at 18:47, John Clark wrote:

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On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>wrote:> Bell's theorem holds only under a certain set of assumptions, True. As I've said many times Bell made exactly 3 assumptions: 1) High School algebra and trigonometry works. 2) Things are local. 3) Things are realistic.If those 3 assumptions are valid then Bell's inequality can NEVERbe violated.

Yes, that is correct. You showed this correctly indeed.

But from experiment we know that Bell's inequality IS violated.

`In our branch. Not in the multiverse. You can interpret the violation`

`of Bell's inequality as a "local" phenomena, due to our absence of`

`consideration of the bigger (multiversal) structure.`

`Aspect experience confirms the existence of the many worlds, for`

`someone believing in the wave-realism, and locality.`

`EPR and Bell worked in the Copenhagen QM: they assume the projection`

`postulate when they apply QM to reality. Without collapse, there is`

`only entanglements which spreads at speed lower than c. There is no`

`action at a distance, although there would be huge one, if realism is`

`correct, and if there is only one branch of the wave.`

Therefore at least one of those three assumptions must be wrong. > assumptions which are not made in Everett's theory.Exactly. Everett did not make assumption #2, if he had then MWIwould be as dead as a doornail; but he didn't so it's not. We stilldon't know for sure that MWI is true but because he didn't make thesame assumptions that Bell did we know that Everett's theory stillmight be correct.

`Everett already analyses in his long thesis, the locality question`

`(assumption #2), and he explains already how the MWI restores`

`locality. More rigorous argument have been provided since.`

`That is what is interesting with Everett: MW restores 3p determinacy,`

`and it restores 3p locality (and it restores physical realism). Like`

`in comp, both the non locality and the indeterminacy are 1p plural,`

`shared or passed by the linear entanglement. And this without special`

`boundary conditions, nor selection principle.`

`The UDA shows that if we assume comp, we have still to justify the`

`wave itself, in the same way Everett justifies the 1p phenomenology of`

`a collapse, though. I show why and how.`

Bruno

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