On 13 May 2014, at 17:26, meekerdb wrote:

On 5/13/2014 1:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The result of the computation does not change depending on when I started it, who started it and so on.

Peter Jones would say that it does matter. There are diophantine equation which emulate you in our galaxy, but this will count for zero in the measure because they are immaterial and not really existing, according to Jones.

I think he would say that an equation doesn't emulate anything. Solving the equation, the physical process of manipulating tokens or writing out the solutions, may emulate something in our world.


An equation does not emulate something, although a diophantine equation can. That is a incredible discovery, and is not trivial. Much simpler is Gödel discovery that you can emulate provability in arithmetic, and thus, btw, emulate all computations, and define them, and prove their existence, and redundance, in arithmetic.

In arithmetic, you have the data, the programs, but also the relative executions.

Bruno




Brent

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