On 23 Jul 2014, at 4:38 am, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Is the following true: >> >> Self-awareness = self-consciousness (?) > > OK. Both involves the 1p. But the []p gives a notion of 3p self-awareness, > plausibly not conscious, like a machine which can assert simple (correct) > belief about itself in the 3p sense, like an altimeter in a plane. > > > >> >> The latter sounds more like Freud's Superego to me, another ego that >> confronts the ego within the same psyche. I'm sure this demonstrates that >> consciousness is not unitary. > > Not sure what you mean. What do you mean by consciousness is not unitary? I > might agree or not according to different possible meanings here. > > Bruno > Bad word choice. I should perhaps say consciousness may sometimes behave inconsistently, which a machine should not do, yes? I mean, why would a machine not want to behave consistently? Yet, psychologists can talk to 'parts of the personality' ie consult a certain locus of self in the person while shutting out others (hypnotherapy etc.) The superego is supposed to be something 'in' or 'about' consciousness that often applies a brake to what the generalised conscious self would like to happen. You might offer to pay for our dinner together but I step in and do it (the superego in this case being what the wife said to me before I left home). This seems to show that the locus of the self can be scattered as it were amongst other selves - as if we do occasionally become 'someone else' or "change our mind" (se changer d'esprit) There are 'organs of the mind', as it were. Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
