On 7/22/2014 2:45 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Ant colonies are not hooked together by neurons passing electrons, but yhe are
integrated, by phermones, and behavior, such as rewards for retrieving food. Bees are
even more this way. So its a poor analogy comparing a human with a termite hive.
Why does that make it a poor analogy? Is there something essential about electrochemical
potentials of axons? Aren't neurons rewarded by retrieving and integrating information
(which are just excitations to them).
Have you not read Douglas Hofstader's conversation with an ant-colony in "Godel, Escher,
and Bach"?
Brent
Now ant colonies, versus human cities is much more accurate! Getting cosmic, do areas of
spacetime have conscious, self awareness? Do planck cells have this, and are they
interconnected? Do boltzmann brains have this? How intelligent would they be? Could we
communicate with such phenomenal minds?
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From: meekerdb <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: It Knows That It Knows
On 7/22/2014 11:57 AM, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno and Kim:
what "SELF" would you consider in e.g. ants? if we realize the highly merged
(individualized?) */group-self/* - the answer is different from taking the present
individual (simplified DOWN to functional minimum composition units) *'ant'* and trying
to assign a */'self/*' to such _partial(?)_ entity. We may see the beginnings of such
communalization in human societies as well. We "feel" as part of a larger unit in
certain aspects.
A human is a colony of cells, pretty much like an ant colony.
Brent
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