On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

​> ​
> instead or arguing about whether "personal identity" is an identity (i.e.
> reflexive, transitive relation), which it isn't, why not just make up a new
> word for the concept that the Wman and the Mman are the "continuson" of the
> Hman but not of each other.


When
​
duplication machine
​
s are invented no doubt the entire English language will
​have to ​
undergo a major overhaul, particularly in the way pronouns are used; but I
fear some will still insist in asking nonsensical questions like "what is
the probability "you" will see Moscow?".

​John K Clark​







>
> On 7/30/2016 1:14 PM, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 2:30 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ​> ​
>> I'm the one person I was a moment ago because I have all the memories of
>> that person
>
>
> ​Yes.​
>
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> If duplicating machines are ever invented
>
>
> ​It's only a matter of time. I'd be amazed if it took less than 10 years
> and equally amazed if it took more than 100.​
>
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> then we can choose some rough and ready legal definitions.
>
>
> ​Sure, but if history has taught us anything it's that what the law says
> and what is true are two entirely different things.​
>
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> But all this discussion of theories of personal identity seems more about
>> semantics and pronouns.
>
>
> ​Getting the semantics and pronouns right is the first step, after that
> the personal identity theory could still be wrong but at least it's a
> theory and not gibberish.
> --
>
>
> But instead or arguing about whether "personal identity" is an identity
> (i.e. reflexive, transitive relation), which it isn't, why not just make up
> a new word for the concept that the Wman and the Mman are the "continuson"
> of the Hman but not of each other.  And then explicate what is implicit in
> a the continuson relation.  This is way science would proceed if we
> actually had a duplication machine.  We'd make duplicates and we'd define
> continusation ostensively and then we'd study it's properties - instead of
> assuming things about computation and physics.
>
> Brent
>
>
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