> On 15 Jan 2019, at 12:56, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 5:33:01 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Jan 2019, at 20:27, Brent Meeker <[email protected] <javascript:>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 1/14/2019 3:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> The physics comes from the first person statistical interference between > >> those dreams. > > > > Where can this "person" be to make a statisical inference, if there are > > only the dreams? > > > > That person makes the inference in the dreams, and test them in the mean > (most normal, in the Gaussian sense) consistent extensions where it > consciousness differentiate. > > Those dream are not “nocturnal” type of dream. A dream here is just a > computation supporting a Löbian machine, which itself supports a person ([]p > &p). The measure one is given either by []p & p (p sigma_1), or just []p & > <>t. “[]p” alone cannot work, because G adds “cul-de-sac world” at any > transition, and we have to get rid of them, to get the default hypotheses > used in probability or credibility theory. > > We do reverse engineering somehow. We extract the geometry of the universe > (the accessibility relations) from the modal logic of the > observable/predictable, which is derived from the “material variants” of G > (mainly Z). > > With mechanism, there are no other way, unless adding a magical selection > principle, but that would make impossible to trust any digitalist doctors. > Would you say yes to a doctor who says that the transplant needs some prayer? > > Bruno > > > > But what exactly counts as a digital implant? > > Likely, neurosurgeons in the future will be replacing neurons and groups of > neurons in human brains with synthetic neurons made of some sort of > materials, perhaps including silicon, but also biopolymers …
An implant can be said digital if it is emulable at the relevant substitution level (that we cannot know for sure, that is why it is a sort of bet). If the primitive matter plays a role, it has to be non Turing emulable at all, but there are no evidences for this, and some contrary evidences do exist. Bruno > > - pt > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

