Horse said "current inability to see where there is an effective difference in this discussion"
You and me both. Ian On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi folks > > On 17/08/2011 11:20, Ian Glendinning wrote: >> >> Marsha, I don't call that rejection, but a warning as to the illusory >> nature of the autonomous individual self. > > What is the difference between an 'autonomous individual self ' and an > 'autonomous moral agent'? I'm having a hard time seeing any difference at > all given what's been said so far. > > So given my current inability to see where there is an effective difference > in this discussion: > > What is it then that has or expresses free will if not an 'autonomous > individual self '. > And if this 'autonomous individual self ' is illusory then the conventional > way of looking at free will is also illusory. > > It seems to me that in all the discussions so far there has been a tendency > to fall back to the idea that there is an autonomous moral agent > ('autonomous individual self') who 'has' free will and expresses that free > will by making free and independent moral choices. > This doesn't appear to be the case given many of Pirsigs quotes and > references. > The overall impression that I get is that the GOF 'Moral Agent' is being > shoe-horned into the MoQ where it doesn't quite fit! > > Horse > > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > — Frank Zappa > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
