Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Data usage

2017-11-10 Thread David W. Jones
Inspired me to check my setup. Top 4 (from Oct 3 to present): Firefox (1.8GB), 
Google Play Store (0.91GB), Google (679MB), Orbot (317MB), with K9 down the 
list at 119MB. But I'm only checking 2 accounts - GMail and my ISP mail 
account, and that one's via IMAP - every half hour.


On November 10, 2017 3:39:21 AM HST, Cat Fergusson  wrote:
>No definitely just k9, I get a lot of emails, and have a few accounts.
>But
>I only download 32kb per email, so not sure why either...the next app
>by
>usage is chrome at less than 20mb!
>
>On 10 Nov 2017 10:09, "Tony Gamble"  wrote:
>
>
>
>On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 8:02:19 AM UTC, Cat Fergusson wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony, I checked the data usage settings (android) where it shows
>which
>> apps have used what as well as how much foreground: background.  It
>also
>> give last 6 months info
>>
>
>Are you looking at the total data or the Data Useage in K-9 ?
>
>My K-9 has used 201 mb since 10th August and the whole device has used
>2.6gb on wifi from 13/10 to 10/11
>
>It is hard to understand how a mail reader like K-9 can download so
>much
>data without you knowing. My problem came from installing one of those
>internet radio station apps and forgetting to turn it off.
>
>Tony
>
>
>Tony
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Re: [k-9-mail] What is the deal with the monsterous new icon?

2017-12-29 Thread David W. Jones
To me, the *old* icon looked like it was drawn in MS Paint, so I like the new 
one better. But functionality is what counts, not the icon that accesses it.

On December 29, 2017 10:18:24 AM HST, Mathguy  wrote:
>I kinda like it. 
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Re: [k-9-mail] K9 mail and hyperlinks not working (android)

2018-01-02 Thread David W. Jones
Link worked fine for me. Opened in Firefox Nightly without issues.

On January 2, 2018 7:57:17 AM HST, Erik van Duijn  wrote:
>hi Dimitri
>
>thanks for sharing your experience
>my versions btw:
>k9 mail :  v 5.400
>Browser: Samsung internet 6.2.01.12
>
>Regards
>erik
>
>Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> schreef op 1 januari 2018 01:02:44
>CET:
>>> I would like to report a bug where K9  makes hyperlinks not working
>>correctly:
>>>
>>> See below link inside a notification email I got from Catawiki
>>>
>>http://email.catawiki.nl/wf/click?upn=7XttcVXaKqWQmcQ5AOg0VOxXZ7xYtzHds-2FMITPrbq794lSaIju0bhm-2FCbbB-2B6USesIX9VSu8BV-2BSsY7-2BQdZUkZmPaSPNNCAINgZNFZSFOVk65mMaUCCjwqVVUZy68iJR3D2eGfZSB1Ikjjvbc7FkWgIS0oxIPvGKPpXAA-2Bmq7L5FAtHouyrT5aWQfEKy-2BgO3aUJqv69qE3o7LsPDHJATZTrAsvMdXEBrKT582U4LPrR7KtJUHUxcNH76P-2Bx8qG5W0jSXi7ukOEjUDsYqGpXflMLM0qE4r5PttI6lNrz-2F-2B5b7q1PLB6eJKOvbjtaMNTLYYWL3g-2BA3WxG8ImxvydGc0n6d1Q0fPWV2Bjyb-2BRQZL53xtvPWQ-2BXEkPaDHNsHPo-2FsOUU9cnaLaVbB6Dciy3X-2F7so0Si2ZiFMAUg9MyyBjQLAl2ZXpF-2BCae68Z278IIqaWJKu1E1vE68yvve0Iv79e-2BA-3D-3D_GD8kYyUJclD9t3hyO7QnHiYhMCp0UuGEhsS-2FThXwjKH92pbSb-2Bpra25dK1-2BkgrlEfbzqAXns1GK3NP3Z3iwOXLes-2F4j4m14A1B917GygZq1CaUW1yYOmccTLnkvOKaWlZLCJznQv1Tl-2BmQyL0L4hE0tb5EE94L6E3xPbZ-2F6zJKWE-2BPgpAbFLe6-2BxJ39m4w2-2Bd3O85-2Fp41vvoOJgHd39BbS8PtKxtaapRHzy9feEC0X2axEAaldL7eftIvZ2KFhn4NKHVj-2FhvXixDojwPfgg3YH2SJ0gxSVAqKzO5XHZ24ge6Bxri91FO1-2B1yxopDBUzB9uzdrNvR6tTwsqkZSyyAmfS6kSzmcIB-2BLPU4bRPdTpLpJfpHHtrL2b1Sw4b2h-2B9PAIf5m-2BMjxDlNJDyF7EzcDeDBeoEA0yRbyTxwZocalfVZ0YWL-2Bo-2BrYYUB5CvmE4ilR8yqu9wjHBc8ZwfDPplgjGFZe-2FzW15X4zCjo3QmUzZfB6KE9j7hA-2FZzNsvLnurHf
>>>
>>> Activating the above from within K9 mail, it will falsely bring you
>>to
>>> catawiki's main page
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Did anyone run into similar issues?
>>
>>I didn’t.  K-9 Mail version 5.400.  Browser is IcecatMobile 52.4.1.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Entering passphrase on a phone is annoying

2018-01-03 Thread David W. Jones
Well, Keepass2 Android password manager allows you to unlock your 
already-unlocked password store using the last 4 (which is userr-customizable) 
characters of the passphrase. Maybe K9 could handle things similarly?

On January 3, 2018 9:23:17 AM HST, matej.kova...@gmail.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have read opened Github issues about sending encrypted-only e-mails,
>I 
>also have read 
>https://k9mail.github.io/2017/01/30/OpenPGP-Considerations-Part-II.html,
>
>and I perfectly understand the developer's reasoning when they decided
>to 
>not allow sending encrypted-only e-mails.
>
>But on the other side, it is very annoying for users to enter
>passphrase, 
>which is in practice leading to that, that users:
>- do not encrypt e-mails at all;
>- use short (weak) passphrases;
>- set passphrase to empty.
>
>In each case the result is quite opposite of what developers wanted -
>now 
>we have even less secure users. OK, there is another option - users on 
>mobile phones are just moving towards Signal app use (which is not bad
>at 
>all).
>
>So my question is - is it possible to design ux in such a way, that 
>unlocking key won't be annoying (or be at least less annoying), while 
>e-mails sent will be encrypted and signed? I have read there has been 
>thinking about unlock pattern, maybe there is some other option, but 
>entering long passphrases is really not an option.
>
>Regards,
>
>M.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Entering passphrase on a phone is annoying

2018-01-04 Thread David W. Jones

On 01/03/2018 09:59 AM, Matej Kovacic wrote:

David W. Jones je napisal(a):

Well, Keepass2 Android password manager allows you to unlock your
already-unlocked password store using the last 4 (which is
userr-customizable) characters of the passphrase. Maybe K9 could handle
things similarly?


Well, this is not so bad idea.

K9 now caches passphrase, but I don't like this idea (passwords to be
cached), because someone else can use (abuse) your key. A lot of users
do not use screen lock, or you put down your phone and screen lock is
not yet activated, or someone grabs a phone from you... and then the
attacker can read your emails or even send fake GPG signed and encrypted
mails.

Maybe there should be another setting:
- enter passphrase each time;
- enter passphrase once (until cancellation or reboot), and then cache it;
- enter passphrase once, cache it, but for unlocking cache require PIN
or pattern.

In last case, if someone grabs a phone from you while it is unlocked, he
will still need a PIN or pattern to read emails (and after some
unsuccessfull attempts, cache should be cleared).

Comments?


Keepass2 Android locks when you switch away from it. When you switch 
back, it demands either the "QuickUnlock" entry I mentioned above, or 
the full passphrase (option is user configurable).


Keepass2 Android also implements its own Android keyboard and clipboard, 
so other applications cannot read any passwords from the clipboard.


I don't know how any of that fits into how K9 could handle a passphrase 
for encrypting emails, though.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Icon

2018-01-17 Thread David W. Jones
Well, in my opinion, the old icon looked like it had been drawn in Microsoft 
Paint by an amateur about 20 years ago, the new icon looks professional 
quality, and the big red envelope states clearly that K-9 is a MAIL app ... but 
whatever floats your boat.

On January 17, 2018 4:38:49 PM HST, Rabid Mutant 
 wrote:
>I and my partner both really dislike the new icon; I can understand the
>
>retro look of the old one probably made no sense to other people and
>this 
>might be a marketing push.
>
>Is there any chance you could add a widget with the old icon for those
>of 
>us old enough to love it? Ideally, of course, just restore the old icon
>... 
>it's good quality branding, IMO.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Icon

2018-01-17 Thread David W. Jones

On 01/17/2018 05:18 PM, Rabid Mutant wrote:

On 18 Jan. 2018 14:13, "David W. Jones" wrote:

Well, in my opinion, the old icon looked like it had been drawn in
Microsoft Paint by an amateur about 20 years ago,

I dont mind if the icon is updated,  so long as it remains K9. Also, as 
i said, i can understand the desire for a more directly relevant icon, 
which is why i suggested the widget for die hards like myself. My boat 
would remain adequately afloat under either circumatance.


Excellent!

Does Android provide mechanisms by which app users can change the main 
icon an app uses?


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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Icon

2018-01-18 Thread David W. Jones


On January 17, 2018 9:44:24 PM HST, Rabid Mutant wrote:
>
>> Excellent! 
>>
>> Does Android provide mechanisms by which app users can change the
>main 
>> icon an app uses? 
>>
>
>
>I don't think so; but the Widget suggestions would side-step that
>problem. 
>The app would define a widget that just starts the app; it set's the
>icon 
>for that widget to the classic icon.

Would that also change the icon shown inside K-9?

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Re: [k-9-mail] IMAP Gmail WiFi K9 extremely slow since 5.4

2018-02-23 Thread David W. Jones
GMail IMAP not slow here in Hawaii using K9. It was at about 1AM Hawaii time, 
but I was uploading ~1GB of files from my desktop computer via wired network, 
so my internet connection may have been saturated at the time.

On February 23, 2018 2:57:54 AM HST, "Laurent C."  
wrote:
>Slow again... 
>
>Perhaps the awakening of U.S. at 8h (14h in France 🇫🇷). 
>
>Rgds. 
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Re: [k-9-mail] IMAP Gmail WiFi K9 extremely slow since 5.4

2018-02-23 Thread David W. Jones
There are so many things in the internet between us at point A and whatever 
GMail server at point B that happens to be handling our email. Sometimes I 
think the internet wouldn't work at all without miracles. ;)

On February 23, 2018 11:04:35 AM HST, "Laurent C."  
wrote:
>Thks. The speed of my K9 is again very high at this very moment. I
>imagine these are just networks or IMAP services conditions from time
>to time... I've never seen that before. Regards.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Developers

2018-02-25 Thread David W. Jones
Contact information should be available in the app description entry in the app 
store, yes?

On February 25, 2018 6:32:00 AM HST, "Scott R."  wrote:
>Where can any of the developers of K9 be reached? 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Developers

2018-02-25 Thread David W. Jones
Hmm, that feature works fine for me here on my tablet, at home using WiFi or at 
my employer's using the personal use WiFi available for staff.

Possible that your mobile service provider is blocking ports or something that 
your home internet connection doesn't?

The blurb about K-9 in Google Play lists this email for the developers:

k9mail.project+p...@gmail.com

Maybe that will help.

On February 25, 2018 11:32:35 AM HST, "Scott R."  wrote:
>The only thing I found was this
>
>https://github.com/k9mail/k-9
>
>I had to dump the K9 app and not use it anymore. I went back to the
>default 
>email app Android comes with for my Samsung phone. The only time K9
>worked 
>correctly is when I was inside the place where I live and using in
>house 
>WiFi. Once I left home and my phone was using my provider's service the
>app 
>would stay in Sync Disabled mode all the time.
>
>On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 11:32:01 AM UTC-5, Scott R. wrote:
>>
>> Where can any of the developers of K9 be reached? 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Developers

2018-02-27 Thread David W. Jones
So you're sending exactly the thing that cketti says will be ignored 
when sent to the cketti address: "all support requests and bug reports 
sent to this address will be ignored."


On 02/26/2018 08:35 AM, Scott wrote:
My email would be support related and possible bug related. I send an 
email to cke...@gmail.com <mailto:cke...@gmail.com> and see what happens.



On Feb 26, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Ola Thoresen <mailto:o...@nytt.no>> wrote:


On 26. feb. 2018 14:41, Scott wrote:

I sent an email to the address you listed below. This is what I got 
back.



(...)

> If you wish to contact a representative of the open source project 
about the project, you may write

> to cke...@gmail.com <mailto:cke...@gmail.com>
> But please note that all support requests and bug reports sent to 
this address will be ignored. Really, > there's no point in trying!



I find this interesting that someone can write to cke...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cke...@gmail.com> but it says any emails won’t be answered.




That is not what it says.  It says that _support_requests_ and 
_bug_reports_ will be ignored.
There are many other kind of requests that might (and might not, of 
course) be answered.




/Ola (T)



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Re: [k-9-mail] Url links not clickable

2018-03-02 Thread David W. Jones
Hmm, that link is perfectly clickable here on my Android 5 tablet, with K-9 
5.403.

On March 2, 2018 5:06:24 AM HST, Tom Aldridge  wrote:
>Daily I have many plain text system generated emails with urls in the
>text, 
>e.g. "
>
>View the Aldridge, Inc. Ytd Overtime Hours online at:
>www.aldridgeinc.com/rpts/ytdovertimehours.html
>" that are emailed to various users running K-9 Email on their android
>devices. No longer are these links displaying as clickable in K-9
>Email. This applies to various android devices, not just one. Why? They
>always used to. 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Parsing phone numbers and calling from e-mail

2018-03-08 Thread David W. Jones

On 03/08/2018 04:26 AM, Viktor Kvašnica wrote:

Hi folks,

as of some days ago it seems the phone numbers in e-mails are not parsed 
correctly and I cannot tap them to call (i. e. phone number 
"00421X").


Does the K-9 actually support phone number parsing and if so, how? We 
are using the K-9 on a daily basis in a company I work for and it is 
very practical for our technicians to be able to call the customer right 
from an e-mail.


Last but not least, then you all for for this great application and keep 
up the good work!


Best regards

Viktor Kvašnica
IT Technician


Never noticed if it does or does not. Are the phone numbers marked up as 
such in the email in any way, such as "tel:00421XXXXX"?


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Re: [k-9-mail] Suddenly SSL certificate error.

2018-03-30 Thread David W. Jones
Contact your email service and ask them? Sounds like something changed at their 
end. Maybe their SSL certificate has expired?

On March 30, 2018 4:25:15 AM HST, 'Jonathan Webb' via K-9 Mail 
 wrote:
>Hi, just noticed that both of my email accounts on k9 are giving a SSL
>certificate error message.
>
>I have had no new mail since the 29th March. My wife, k9 on her phone
>also has it. We have same host.
>
>I haven't touched anything.
>
>I can still get my email on my desktop from the host and I can't see
>anything in their status log about SSL certificates.
>This is way out of my league. Any ideas?
>Many thanks
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Re: [k-9-mail] Suddenly SSL certificate error.

2018-03-30 Thread David W. Jones
I don't know. I also use Thunderbird, but I get my mail via POP3 and a non-SSL 
connection. I have K-9 getting mail via IMAP.

I think contacting your email service provider with the exact error message 
will clarify things and provide a solution.

On March 30, 2018 8:49:51 AM HST, 'Jonathan Webb' via K-9 Mail 
 wrote:
>But I can still get it on my desktop email client (Thunderbird). Would
>that not be affected too?  The settings appear the same AFAICT.
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Re: [k-9-mail] K9 stopping and crashing when deleting emails

2018-04-10 Thread David W. Jones
On April 10, 2018 11:59:06 AM HST, Cindy Backstein  
wrote:
>
>
>For months now I've been reporting that K9 is crashing when I delete
>emails 
>most of the time on one of my mediacom accounts. It is also starting
>this 
>on my other mediacom accounts too. Apparently the developers do not
>read 
>their feedback reports or else this would have been fixed by now. Has 
>anyone else been having this happening when deleting emails?
>
>Also, at the top it always says "Sync Disabled - no network" even
>though I 
>do have a great network connection. If I manually sync it will work
>some of 
>the time. Other times, I go all day without being able to get new
>emails 
>even though I keep trying to manually sync.
> I should be able to delete emails without crashing K9
>Also Emails will not sync every 15 minutes as checked. Emails will not 
>always sync when I try to do it manually.
>
>I've even deleted the account and readded it but the problem came back 
>right away.
>
>K-9 Mail version: 5.403
>
>Android version: 7.0 on Samsung Galaxy S7 edge
>
>POP3 email accounts
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Consistent with some of my experiences with K-9:

1. In an email thread, read an email, delete it, read and delete next one, 
until I read and delete the last one. Bam, tablet reports that K-9 has stopped. 
Tapping ok returns me to a functional K-9 accounts screen. That issue is pretty 
consistent here.

2. I'm on Android 5 here and email sync works fine. I saw a 'Sync Disabled - no 
network' message once when my tablet had autoconnected to a wifi network that 
required a login but I didn't login to it.

#1 happens consistently and I've sent in lots of reports.

For makers of a communications tool, K-9 developers aren't very communicative. 
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Re: [k-9-mail] can not setup gmail account in K-9

2018-05-01 Thread David W. Jones
On May 1, 2018 1:38:25 PM HST, nukeman...@gmail.com wrote:
>Josh Brooks,
>
>THANK YOU so much, your 4 steps below absolutely worked.  I tried the 
>"DisplayUnlockCaptcha" while logged in, did not work.  Followed your
>steps, 
>and it worked.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>In general, and on a side note, I am not a big fan of Apple products,
>but 
>when my kids devices have had issues, Apple support has been great. 
>Where 
>is Google support like this???  If it wasn't for the luck of finding
>Josh's 
>post, I would have been helpless.
>
>My opinion and experience.
>
>On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 2:55:07 PM UTC-5, Josh Brooks-Budhoo
>wrote:
>>
>> Just to go back to the original question on this post, in case it's
>still 
>> open, here's a method I've found to work in the past:
>>
>> 1. Sign out of all Google accounts (or open a web browser that has no
>
>> Google accounts signed in)
>> 2. Navigate to http://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
>and 
>> sign in using the account you're having trouble with
>> 3. Follow any remaining on-screen prompts to confirm that recent
>blocked 
>> login attempts were actually initiated by you
>> 4. Repeat the login attempt on the blocked device (i.e. from K-9)
>>
>> On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 9:20:10 AM UTC-5, cketti wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01.03.2015 22:29, Tony M wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been tinkering with K-9 mail and like it. There seems to be a
>lost 
>>> of settings so I will have to learn it
>>> Big problem is that I can not get it to add my gmail account. No
>matter 
>>> what I do this error pops up when I try to add it. I am positive my
>account 
>>> info is correct.
>>>
>>> Setup could not finish
>>> Username or password incorrect.
>>> (Command: AUTHENTICATE PLAIN;response: #2# [NO,[ALERT], Please log
>in via 
>>> your web browser:
>>> http://support.google.com/mail/accou...y?answer=78754 
>>> <http://support.google.com/mail/accounts/bin/answer.py?answer=78754>
>
>>> (Failure)]) 
>>>
>>>
>>> Just click the link and work through the bullet points. My guess is
>you 
>>> need to "allow less secure apps access".
>>>
>>
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Well, with Apple, you have one company, one product. Apple support outside of 
their 'genius' bar is highly regarded. But they exert rigid control over iOS 
and hardware, so it's much easier.

With Google/Android, you have Android + a bunch of different phone/tablet 
makers (who each customize and/or mangle Android to suit their individual 
goals) + a much larger plethora of 3rd party app makers.

Asking Google to sort out problems that might be due to something Samsung or LG 
or the app maker tweaked is asking a lot.

Just my opinion. I never encountered your problem with adding GMail to K-9, 
probably because I haven't logged into my Google account via the web in years.

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Re: [k-9-mail] can not setup gmail account in K-9

2018-05-02 Thread David W. Jones
to "allow less secure apps access".


Well, with Apple, you have one company, one product. Apple support
outside of their 'genius' bar is highly regarded. But they exert
rigid control over iOS and hardware, so it's much easier.

With Google/Android, you have Android + a bunch of different
phone/tablet makers (who each customize and/or mangle Android to
suit their individual goals) + a much larger plethora of 3rd party
app makers.

Asking Google to sort out problems that might be due to something
Samsung or LG or the app maker tweaked is asking a lot.

    Just my opinion. I never encountered your problem with adding GMail
to K-9, probably because I haven't logged into my Google account via
the web in years.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Parsing phone numbers and calling from e-mail

2018-05-24 Thread David W. Jones
On May 24, 2018 9:15:03 AM HST, Charley  wrote:
>I also have the same issue. I think it used to work (several years ago)
>but 
>I don't remember for sure. It works on a different email app on my
>Samsung 
>S8 (the standard Samsung mail app which I don't use).
>Anyway that this feature can get added to K9mail?
>
>I would like it to recognize almost anything that looks even remotely
>like 
>a phone number (areacode)number or areacode-prefix-last4digits or 
>areacode.prefix.last4digits or +countrycode (etc.).
>Believe it or not, my Windows mobile phone approximately 2003 did this 
>correctly.
>
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And I would like K-9 to gIve me the option to NOT highlight phone numbers at 
all.

I have a To Do list app that turns phone numbers into links in task note 
entries. They only add an extra step to editing the note.

I use both apps on a tablet with no telephone capability at all.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Export / Copy Mails

2018-08-01 Thread David W. Jones
On August 1, 2018 2:47:58 AM HST, O B  wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm using K-9 Mail (V 5.403) and I have a problem:
>
>I have e-Mails on my device from an old account, which is not longer 
>existent. 
>How do I get these Mails out of my phone to a new Mail-Account? or at
>least 
>somewhere I can read them.
>
>Is there and plaintext db I can copy / convert ?
>
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Hmm, only thoughts I had were: Can K-9 move emails between accounts?

Can K-9 attach emails from the old account to emails sent from the new account? 
Then you could email the old emails to the new account despite the old account 
no longer existing.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Export / Copy Mails

2018-08-03 Thread David W. Jones
Bummer. One thing I've decided (when it comes to email apps on mobile devices): 
They're simply not as capable as standalone PC mail clients like Thunderbird!

In Thunderbird, I have six different mail accounts setup. I can drag and drop 
emails from any folder in any account into any other account/folder.

You might check around your phone with a good file manager (I use Antek) to see 
if you can get to where K-9 keeps its emails, then see if you could copy it to 
a PC where maybe a client like Thunderbird can access it. I think if K-9 uses 
the standard mailbox format (.mbox, I think it is), Thunderbird can import it.

On August 3, 2018 4:08:06 AM HST, O B  wrote:
>I tried...
>K-9 cant copy mails between accounts and it also cant forward mails to 
>another accounts.
>
>:(
>
>Am Donnerstag, 2. August 2018 06:59:34 UTC+2 schrieb O B:
>>
>> Don't know, will try it.
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 2. August 2018 02:08:25 UTC+2 schrieb Gnome Nomad:
>>>
>>> On August 1, 2018 2:47:58 AM HST, O B  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm using K-9 Mail (V 5.403) and I have a problem:
>>>>
>>>> I have e-Mails on my device from an old account, which is not
>longer 
>>>> existent. 
>>>> How do I get these Mails out of my phone to a new Mail-Account? or
>at 
>>>> least somewhere I can read them.
>>>>
>>>> Is there and plaintext db I can copy / convert ?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hmm, only thoughts I had were: Can K-9 move emails between accounts?
>>>
>>> Can K-9 attach emails from the old account to emails sent from the
>new 
>>> account? Then you could email the old emails to the new account
>despite the 
>>> old account no longer existing.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps!
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>>>
>>> Sent from my Android device with F/LOSS K-9 Mail.
>>>
>>


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Re: [k-9-mail] K9 keeps crashing

2018-08-07 Thread David W. Jones
On August 6, 2018 11:06:55 PM HST, Ove Sentlig  wrote:
>Device:  Samsung Galaxy Tab A (2016)
>Android: 7.0  
>
>Since yesterday, K9 keeps on crashing.  It started yesterday and when 
>tapping on an email to view it K9 crashed, repeatedly. Now it crashes
>every 
>time when starting the app.
>I deleted the cache, no change.  I deleted the data, no change.  I 
>uninstalled, and reinstalled. I get the first screen for setup, but
>when 
>tapping "Import settings",  K9 crashes.
>
>I'm totally stumped, don't know what to try next.  Doing a factory
>reset 
>would maybe be too radical (it's the wife's tablet).
>
>Any hints & tips?
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My guess? Corrupted settings. Does it work if you don't import any settings?
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Re: [k-9-mail] Retrieve or 'undeleted' from Trash folder

2018-08-22 Thread David W. Jones
On August 22, 2018 2:28:00 PM HST, Sean Greenslade  
wrote:
>On August 20, 2018 7:07:53 AM PDT, "David B. Alexander"
> wrote:
>>I agree that it should be possible to move email from Trash to any
>>other 
>>folder. This is how every other email client I have used, functions. 
>>Similarly, you can "Restore" from the Microsoft Recycle Bin. This
>>should 
>>have nothing to do with whether the setup is IMAP or POP; it is a
>>function 
>>of the K-9 client (and undeletion can synced back to the server 
>>automatically if IMAP users like that behavior). I am a happy POP
>user,
>>and 
>>everything else works great, so why do the K-9 software makers ignore
>>this 
>>functionality?
>
>Patches welcome.
>
>But as it stands, POP does not match the mobile phone paradigm very
>well for most people's use cases. There are severe limitations,
>especially with the concept of folders (POP has no concept of folders).
>I suspect that if K-9 did support moving between local folders on POP
>accounts, we'd be getting support emails asking why these moves aren't
>replicated to other email clients accessing the same account.
>
>--Sean

Could it be done for IMAP?

FWIW, using POP with Thunderbird on PC, deleting email moves it into trash. If 
the client is set to delete mail on the server when I delete it in the client 
and I drag it out of the trash to the Inbox, I don't think it's moved back into 
the mail store on the server. It goes into the mail client's local mail store.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Retrieve or 'undeleted' from Trash folder

2018-08-23 Thread David W. Jones

On 08/23/2018 06:35 AM, Sean Greenslade wrote:

Could it be done for IMAP?


Yes, moving between folders on IMAP works fine on K-9.


So would it be possible to move an email from one IMAP account to a 
different IMAP account?



FWIW, using POP with Thunderbird on PC, deleting email moves it into
trash. If the client is set to delete mail on the server when I delete
it in the client and I drag it out of the trash to the Inbox, I don't
think it's moved back into the mail store on the server. It goes into
the mail client's local mail store.


Indeed. POP does not have the functionality to let a client put a message back 
on the server, so any move / folder / label mechanics have to be entirely 
client-side.


Bummer for some, I guess. I don't use POP on my tablet, I prefer to keep 
my mail stores on my PC. Where I can back them up, for instance.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Retrieve or 'undeleted' from Trash folder

2018-08-26 Thread David W. Jones

On 08/23/2018 06:44 PM, Sean Greenslade wrote:

On August 23, 2018 6:24:34 PM PDT, "David W. Jones"  
wrote:

On 08/23/2018 06:35 AM, Sean Greenslade wrote:

Could it be done for IMAP?


Yes, moving between folders on IMAP works fine on K-9.


So would it be possible to move an email from one IMAP account to a
different IMAP account?


It would be a different action, but yes it is possible to implement. If it's on 
the same account, it can just issue an IMAP MOVE command. To move between 
accounts, it has to create a new message on the destination account and expunge 
it from the source account.


That would be useful. I have one main email account I use and keep 
things in. The others are only used to send/receive mail specific to 
those accounts.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Outgoung email templates

2018-08-29 Thread David W. Jones

On 08/28/2018 12:28 AM, Алексей Багацкий wrote:

Hi!
Suggestion on K9 mail for android

About 2..3 times per week I create identical letters:

*To:* garbage_collectors@acm 
<https://e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3agarbage_collectors@acm>e.com

*Subj:*  please clear garbage boxes.
*Body:*

Please clear garbage boxes.
Address: city Akham, street BlaBla, near house 123
*Attachment:* new photo with overfilled garbage box.

So, I have to search for old emails, copy/paste "body", "to" etc

Please, do "create mail with template".
So, I should create "email template" with pre-filled fields (to, subj, 
body), make new photo and just send it.


It is template for new letters, not for answers. But, email templates 
for answers also useful.


It can really save a lot of time for me.

Thanx a lot!!!


Sounds like a good idea to me, too. I use email templates in 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: No LED-notification on S9+

2018-09-08 Thread David W. Jones

On 09/07/2018 03:05 PM, FendiMan wrote:


Is there anyone out there?


I'm here, but I only have an old TegraNote tablet with Android 5, not an S9.


Does nobody interest this?


What do you mean by an LED notification? Only notification I've ever 
seen from K-9 is a small email indicator in the notification bar, with a 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: No LED-notification on S9+

2018-09-10 Thread David W. Jones
On September 9, 2018 10:48:32 AM HST, FendiMan wrote:
>
>
>Am Sonntag, 9. September 2018 00:45:53 UTC+2 schrieb Gnome Nomad:
>>
>> > What do you mean by an LED notification?
>
>
>Some Smartphones like the Samsung S9 or my old one S5 have a built-in
>LED, 
>which signals Mails, SMS, charching state or something similar without 
>using the screen.

Ah. I would think that turning on that light would happen via the existing 
Android APIs. Maybe there's a specific permission need to use the LED indicator?


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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: No LED-notification on S9+

2018-09-11 Thread David W. Jones
On September 11, 2018 12:41:49 AM HST, FendiMan wrote:
>No, this is not a permission thing.
>The App "Light Manager" does this, what K9 should do from itself and
>what 
>worked some years without a problem under Android 5 on the S5.
>If i deinstall und reinstall K9 the notification works, but only for a 
>short time.

Odd. Sounds like something changed from Android 5 to 7 in the underlying API.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Printing Please...

2018-10-16 Thread David W. Jones
On October 16, 2018 3:22:31 AM HST, JWhalley  wrote:
>Been using for over 3 years now and hoping for a way to print my
>messages- 
>even such clunky work-arounds as "sharing" to another app. Preferably
>NOT 
>Google Cloud Print and their mail client, as they already data 
>mine/spy/censor enough things already. It's irritating AF to have to
>dig 
>out my laptop just to have a paper copy of a message I can use offline 
>because cellular or open wifi is neither ubiquitous or reliable in most
>of 
>the US. If I could do this with a Palm Pilot or Newton in the 80s with
>a 
>fraction of the processor/ram/available resources, why not Now?
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Here's a process:

Select all email text. Copy. Start new document in whatever office suite you 
have on your device (I use WPS Office). Paste text into document and print.

Clunky and you don't get the mail headers, but you do get the message printed.

I think the design assumption in the Android/iOS world is that everyone has 
24/7 connection. Being a tablet user myself with only a wifi connection 
available, I butt heads with that assumption a lot.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Top bar question

2018-10-17 Thread David W. Jones

On 10/16/2018 10:34 PM, Tinu S wrote:

Hi list

I have installed K-9 version 5.600 on a tablet under Android 4.1.1. When 
reading a message in landscape format I see an unknown icon in the top 
bar - see attached screenshot. What is the function of this button?


Thanks

Tinu


Looks like some kind of warning indicator to me. I've never seen it from 
K-9. Does tapping it do anything?


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Re: [k-9-mail] Top bar question

2018-10-17 Thread David W. Jones
On October 16, 2018 11:29:03 PM HST, Tinu  wrote:
>Thanks for your message.
>
>Found it: When I click longer on the button an info text pops up:
>"Spam"
>and the message is moved to the Spam folder. Don't know if this is the
>correct icon or a little issue.
>
>David W. Jones  schrieb am Mi., 17.10.2018,
>10:58:
>
>> On 10/16/2018 10:34 PM, Tinu S wrote:
>> > Hi list
>> >
>> > I have installed K-9 version 5.600 on a tablet under Android 4.1.1.
>When
>> > reading a message in landscape format I see an unknown icon in the
>top
>> > bar - see attached screenshot. What is the function of this button?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Tinu
>>
>> Looks like some kind of warning indicator to me. I've never seen it
>from
>> K-9. Does tapping it do anything?

Excellent. I almost exclusively use K-9 in portrait format and have never seen 
the button! I wondered how we could mark an email as spam.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Top bar question

2018-10-18 Thread David W. Jones
On October 17, 2018 10:16:54 PM HST, Tinu  wrote:
>There is an option to configure which button(s) are displayed: In the
>Global Configuration - Display (1st entry) - 2nd last entry (in
>German:Sichtbare Nachrichtenaktionen) you can choose eg Spam - then the
>"attention" icon is displayed in the message read window.
>
>Am Mi., 17. Okt. 2018 um 22:36 Uhr schrieb David W. Jones <
>gnomeno...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On October 16, 2018 11:29:03 PM HST, Tinu  wrote:
>> >Thanks for your message.
>> >
>> >Found it: When I click longer on the button an info text pops up:
>> >"Spam"
>> >and the message is moved to the Spam folder. Don't know if this is
>the
>> >correct icon or a little issue.
>> >
>> >David W. Jones  schrieb am Mi., 17.10.2018,
>> >10:58:
>> >
>> >> On 10/16/2018 10:34 PM, Tinu S wrote:
>> >> > Hi list
>> >> >
>> >> > I have installed K-9 version 5.600 on a tablet under Android
>4.1.1.
>> >When
>> >> > reading a message in landscape format I see an unknown icon in
>the
>> >top
>> >> > bar - see attached screenshot. What is the function of this
>button?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Tinu
>> >>
>> >> Looks like some kind of warning indicator to me. I've never seen
>it
>> >from
>> >> K-9. Does tapping it do anything?
>>
>> Excellent. I almost exclusively use K-9 in portrait format and have
>never
>> seen the button! I wondered how we could mark an email as spam.

"Display Message Actions" in English. Cool. Never noticed that option before.
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Re: [k-9-mail] It does not show anything when there is an error when retrieving mail

2018-11-07 Thread David W. Jones
On November 7, 2018 12:36:03 PM HST, Uwe Deutscher  
wrote:
>This feature used to be in past versions of K-9!
>
>I used it regulary. 
>
>But with some update it disappeard again!
>
>
> Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
>Von: Ernesto Cel 
>Gesendet: 7. November 2018 22:11:17 MEZ
>An: K-9 Mail 
>Betreff: [k-9-mail] It does not show anything when there is an error
>when retrieving mail
>
>Please, if you can correct this fault: when there is an error when 
>retrieving messages (for example if there is no internet), do not
>notify 
>anything, I do not know if there was an error or if I simply do not
>have 
>new messages. I would like you to clearly show the error, for example,
>that 
>the last errors are displayed in a window that can be accessed with a 
>button.
>
>Thank you.
>
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Yes, it used to announce failures when it was unable to retrieve. I have 
v5.600. When did that feature vanish?
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Lock screen notifications settings don’t work

2018-11-11 Thread David W. Jones
Well, I only have Android 5.1 here. Lock screen notification shows only 
sender, subject, mail account, number of emails. I didn't try any of the 
other settings. I have no idea what interactions might be going on 
between K-9 and Android 8's lock screen.


On 11/11/18 8:24 PM, Joé McKen wrote:

For the record, I still need help with this, if anyone’s around.

New phone: Samsung Galaxy S8+
New Android: v8.0.0
New K-9 Mail: v5.600
Same problem. Lock screen notifications either display everything – 
sender, subject, body, etc. – or (with “Hide subjects in notifications” 
enabled) only which account received the email and the email count. The 
granular control under Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications doesn’t 
work at all.


Would really appreciate any help here.


On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 3:54:04 AM UTC-4, Joé McKen wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under Settings →
Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as “Application
name”, “Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9
notifications are always the same regardless. This changes when I
hide subject lines under Settings → Privacy → Hide subject in
notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen Notifications” setting
is /still/ ignored, but I get a different notification instead.

The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that /does/ work is “No
lock screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.

I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the results for
each setting combination:


_*Hide Subject OFF*_

*No lock screen notifications:* [none]

*App name:*  K-9 Mail · mailto:recipi...@gmail.com>>
**
       

*Unread count:*        K-9 Mail · mailto:recipi...@gmail.com>>
**
           

*Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail · mailto:recipi...@gmail.com>>
**
                   

*Same as unlocked:*   K-9 Mail · mailto:recipi...@gmail.com>>
**
                       


_*Hide Subjects ON*_

*No lock screen notifications:* [none]

*App name:*  K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread (mailto:recipi...@gmail.com>>)*
       New mail

*Unread count:*        K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread (mailto:recipi...@gmail.com>>)*
       New mail

*Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread (mailto:recipi...@gmail.com>>)*
       New mail

*Same as unlocked:*   K-9 Mail
*<#> Unread (mailto:recipi...@gmail.com>>)*
       New mail


As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show everything
(bad for privacy), or b) notifications that only show the number of
unread emails in each account’s inbox. I would prefer “Message count
and senders”, if it worked; that would tell me all I need to know
without sensitive personal information to a snoop.

I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on an Asus
Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.

Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to fix it?

My thanks to anyone who replies.



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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Lock screen notifications settings don’t work

2018-11-12 Thread David W. Jones
Just checked. What I have is Lock Screen Notifications > Unread message 
count. So if it's showing me what I see sender, subject, mail count, 
then I guess the setting isn't working right here, either?


On 11/11/18 9:51 PM, Joé McKen wrote:
Sounds like you have “message count and senders” – precisely what I’d 
like to have on mine, if only the setting would work …


On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 2:37:24 AM UTC-5, Gnome Nomad wrote:

Well, I only have Android 5.1 here. Lock screen notification shows only
sender, subject, mail account, number of emails. I didn't try any of
the
other settings. I have no idea what interactions might be going on
between K-9 and Android 8's lock screen.

On 11/11/18 8:24 PM, Joé McKen wrote:
 > For the record, I still need help with this, if anyone’s around.
 >
 > New phone: Samsung Galaxy S8+
 > New Android: v8.0.0
 > New K-9 Mail: v5.600
 > Same problem. Lock screen notifications either display everything –
 > sender, subject, body, etc. – or (with “Hide subjects in
notifications”
 > enabled) only which account received the email and the email
count. The
 > granular control under Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications
doesn’t
 > work at all.
 >
 > Would really appreciate any help here.
 >
 >
 > On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 3:54:04 AM UTC-4, Joé McKen wrote:
 >
 >     Hello,
 >
 >     I have a problem where whatever setting I choose under
Settings →
 >     Notifications → Lock Screen Notifications (such as “Application
 >     name”, “Message count and senders”, etc.) is ignored; K-9
 >     notifications are always the same regardless. This changes
when I
 >     hide subject lines under Settings → Privacy → Hide subject in
 >     notifications, in which case my “Lock Screen Notifications”
setting
 >     is /still/ ignored, but I get a different notification instead.
 >
 >     The only “Lock Screen Notifications” setting that /does/ work
is “No
 >     lock screen notifications”, which hides them as expected.
 >
 >     I’ve run a battery of tests, and here’s a table of the
results for
 >     each setting combination:
 >
 >
 >     _*Hide Subject OFF*_
 >
 >     *No lock screen notifications:* [none]
 >
 >     *App name:*  K-9 Mail ·      <mailto:reci...@gmail.com>>
 >     **
 >            
 >
 >     *Unread count:*        K-9 Mail ·      <mailto:reci...@gmail.com>>
 >     **
 >                
 >
 >     *Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail ·      <mailto:reci...@gmail.com>>
 >     **
 >                    
 >
 >     *Same as unlocked:*   K-9 Mail ·      <mailto:reci...@gmail.com>>
 >     **
 >                        
 >
 >
 >     _*Hide Subjects ON*_
 >
 >     *No lock screen notifications:* [none]
 >
 >     *App name:*  K-9 Mail
 >     *<#> Unread (mailto:reci...@gmail.com>>)*
 >            New mail
 >
 >     *Unread count:*        K-9 Mail
 >     *<#> Unread (mailto:reci...@gmail.com>>)*
 >            New mail
 >
 >     *Message count and senders:* K-9 Mail
 >     *<#> Unread (mailto:reci...@gmail.com>>)*
 >            New mail
 >
 >     *Same as unlocked:*   K-9 Mail
 >     *<#> Unread (mailto:reci...@gmail.com>>)*
 >            New mail
 >
 >
 >     As it stands, my options are a) notifications that show
everything
 >     (bad for privacy), or b) notifications that only show the
number of
 >     unread emails in each account’s inbox. I would prefer
“Message count
 >     and senders”, if it worked; that would tell me all I need to
know
 >     without sensitive personal information to a snoop.
 >
 >     I’m using K-9 Mail v5.403 (the latest as of this writing) on
an Asus
 >     Zenfone 3 (ZE552KL) with Android 8.0.
 >
 >     Does anyone else have this problem? And is there any way to
fix it?
 >
 >     My thanks to anyone who replies.




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Re: [k-9-mail] Unable to send email with large size attachments

2018-11-16 Thread David W. Jones
On November 16, 2018 9:58:57 AM HST, Honna Smal  wrote:
>Hello,
>
>What is the maximum size for sending emails with large attachments?
>I could not email an attachment of over 4 MB via public wifi nor via my
>own 
>home wifi.
>Strangely enough, those emails were removed from the Out map into the
>Send 
>map. So to me it looked as if the emails were actually send. Only this 
>appeared not to be the case.
>
>Otherwise I am a very happy user of K9 mail. So I would really like to
>know 
>what I should know about attachments that i can email.
>
>Many thanks in advance.
>
>Honna Smal

Hmm, outgoing mail size limits are usually set by the mail service provider, 
right?
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Re: [k-9-mail] Unable to send email with large size attachments

2018-11-17 Thread David W. Jones
On November 17, 2018 3:28:26 AM HST, Greg Troxel  wrote:
>Honna Smal  writes:
>
>> What is the maximum size for sending emails with large attachments?
>
>I am not sure that k-9 has a specific limit.  But I sent things over 4
>MB, perhaps even close to 20 MB, fairly often, with no trouble.   I've
>been reading the k-9 mail list for years, and have not seen similar
>reports of trouble.
>
>Keep in mind that a 3 MB file is a 4 MB attachment, more or less, with
>base64 encoding.
>
>Mail servers have a configured size limit, as David said.  But it would
>seem odd, these days, for 4 MB to run afoul of that.
>
>> I could not email an attachment of over 4 MB via public wifi nor via
>my own 
>> home wifi.
>
>To debug this, you need to look at the server logs, and see what the
>server recorded.
>
>Also, set up adb and see what k-9 logs.
>
>You say "could not", but that is not specific enough.  For people to
>help you, you need to be describe more details, including the timeline
>from pressing send and the precise error you received.
>
>You say "could not" about "public wifi" and "home wifi", but do not
>mention cellular, or anything else.  Do you mean "I tried those two
>things, and can't readily try anything else, and I have never seen it
>work"?
>
>You didn't explain if regular text mail works, and if you have tried
>successively smaller attachments to find a magic size.  Or if your mail
>provider has a mail size limit.

Just guessing that Honna's trying to send using mail.com account, they say 
their size limit is 50MB:

https://www.mail.com/mail/attachments-up-to-50-MB/499458-large-email-attachment-limit.html#more_capacity_mailcom_50_mb_email_attachment_limit

>You also did not explain if you have set up another email provider and
>tried that, or a different client (thunderbird on desktop) to see if
>that has the same issue.
>
>> Strangely enough, those emails were removed from the Out map into the
>Send 
>> map. So to me it looked as if the emails were actually send. Only
>this 
>> appeared not to be the case.
>
>adb logs may be helpful.  The message going from the Outbox to the Sent
>folder is not proof that they actually were sent, but evidence that k-9
>thought they were accepted by the first-hop server.
>
>Overall, I suspect you will find a problem in the email service (or
>perhaps a network which only allows limited-size connections??), and
>not
>in k-9.
>
>Greg


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Re: [k-9-mail] Getting back from Inbox to Overview

2018-11-20 Thread David W. Jones
On November 20, 2018 12:59:59 PM HST, Luc  wrote:
>Hey there,
>
>don't know, if my question was already answered.
>So if I opened an account/inbox and want to get back, I have always do
>two clicks to get back to the overview with my email accounts. Just one
>click on the icon brings me to an overview of my folders.
>I didn't find anything in the settings... 
>Can you help me please?
>Thx. 
>Luc
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Does the same thing for me. I didn't glimpse any settings that looked like 
they'd make a difference.

Working in the Unified Inbox gives me a one-tap return from viewing a message 
back to the Unified Inbox, though.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Can I add an email address to my contacts?

2018-11-21 Thread David W. Jones
On November 21, 2018 4:46:50 AM HST, Ed M  wrote:
>Is it possible to access and add to my contact list?  Where? 

Via the Android Contacts app, yes?


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Re: [k-9-mail] Select email App from android contacts

2018-12-12 Thread David W. Jones
On December 11, 2018 10:39:09 PM HST, Luca Ruspantini 
 wrote:
>Hi, thanks for the possibility to interact with the community. Pity we
>have to do this though google.
>When I try to send an email through android contacts it opens Gmail. I
>would prefer to have the choice to email through K-9 Mail accounts. No
>answer found on the net ?
>Please help
>Thanks in advance
>Luca
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Hi, Luca!

I looked through Google Contacts settings and didn't see any for that. I didn't 
see any useful settings in K-9, either.

Maybe something like the Better Open With app this link talks about can help?

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/remove-change-set-default-apps-android/

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Re: [k-9-mail] toolbar top bottom

2018-12-12 Thread David W. Jones
On December 12, 2018 3:04:37 AM HST, adrdem...@gmail.com wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have several phones (Galaxy S9, Nokia 8, Honor View 10, Xperia XZ 
>Premium).
>
>I don't know why, but the Nokia 8 shows the K-9 toolbar at the top of
>the 
>screen instead of the bottom. How can I manage to have the buttons at
>the 
>bottom?
>
>Toolbar buttons: Search, Compose, three dots and so forth.
>
>I can't find the option on the settings... I am desperate.
>
>Thank you for your help.
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And I would like to have the buttons back at the top where they belong - here 
on my TegraNote tablet with Android 5. K-9 is the only app I have here that 
insists on putting them at the bottom.

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Re: [k-9-mail] GaiException: android_getad

2018-12-12 Thread David W. Jones
On December 12, 2018 11:05:55 AM HST, jepz11  wrote:
>Messages don't get sent. 
>This happens every now and again.

What email account - GMail, something else?

What kind of connection - IMAP, POP3/SMTP?

What network connection - WiFi, cellular?

Don't necessarily have any idea what's wrong but thought that having the 
information would help someone else figure it out.
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Re: [k-9-mail] GaiException: android_getad

2018-12-12 Thread David W. Jones

On 12/12/18 11:44 AM, jepz11 wrote:


On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 10:19:12 PM UTC+1, Gnome Nomad wrote:

On December 12, 2018 11:05:55 AM HST, jepz11 
wrote:
 >Messages don't get sent.
 >This happens every now and again.

What email account - GMail, something else?

What kind of connection - IMAP, POP3/SMTP?

What network connection - WiFi, cellular?

Don't necessarily have any idea what's wrong but thought that having
the information would help someone else figure it out.

Mail through my ISP, using IMAP, using wifi.
Android version 8.1.0
Kernel 3.18.79
build 011019

Pone is an LG Q7


Doesn't give me any ideas, unless you have similar problems sending 
using other mail clients. Just in case the problem is at your ISP's end.


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Re: [k-9-mail] GaiException: android_getad

2018-12-13 Thread David W. Jones
On December 13, 2018 7:25:56 AM HST, jepz11  wrote:
>
>
>On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 8:37:32 AM UTC+1, Gunter Königsmann
>wrote:
>>
>> Which ISP is it?
>> I, too, would tend to believe that the error is there. And -just to
>make 
>> sure - what does "is not sent" mean? K9 believes it to be sent, but
>isn't? 
>> K9 tells it cannot be sent? Or it can be sent but not be saved to the
>inbox?
>>
>
>I sent two mails to myself, with a gpx file attached. So, small files.
>One 
>goes fine, K-9 seems unable to send the other so the failing message is
>not 
>sent.
>Several attempts to 'synchronize', did not help, the error stuck. Today
>
>however, it did work so only now it worked.
>
>This has happened before.
>
>My logic tells me the problem is Googles Android tries unsuccessfully
>to 
>put in an advertisement, resulting in the mentioned error for K-9.
>In other words, the K-9 error is due to Googles relentless and often 
>incredibly clever ways of mixing ads in, just about anything.
>This is merely my impression, I am a tech nitwit, it's the
>'android_getad' 
>making me think the Android system produces this error.

Hmm. I use GMail in K-9 and Thunderbird and Google never inserts an ad in any 
email. It WILL show ads when using the GMail web interface, which doesn't 
involve any other mail clients at all.

>My ISP (xs4all.nl) is hands down the best, technically, the fault is 
>definitely not there. No way there are errors in how they handle mail.

Is it possible the xs4all.nl uses Gmail to provide their mail services? 
Apparently a number do now.

>Does K-9 keep logs I could find?


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Re: [k-9-mail] GaiException: android_getad

2018-12-14 Thread David W. Jones

On 12/13/18 1:54 PM, jepz11 wrote:


On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 11:52:30 PM UTC+1, Gnome Nomad wrote:

Is it possible the xs4all.nl <http://xs4all.nl> uses Gmail to
provide their mail services?


XS4ALL, to be read 'access for all' was a pioneer provider and was 
called Hacktic. Need I say more.


Not likely, that XS4ALL is using GMail, but Google also believes in 
'access for all'. How else can they track everyone? ;)


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Re: [k-9-mail] Wrong attachment thumbnail

2019-01-23 Thread David W. Jones
On January 23, 2019 12:04:55 AM HST, yisco  wrote:
>I get a lot of mails with attachments, like JPEGs from my security
>camera, 
>PDF invoices, etc.
>
>I found that K-9 in most cases displays a wrong thumbnail for the 
>attachment, like from an older attachment.
>It even displays the thumbnail for a JPEG image when the attachment is
>a 
>PDF (which shouldn't have a thumbnail at all).
>
>After manually deleting the app cache the thumbnail is correct.
>Is there a way to make K-9 mail always display the correct thumbnail or
>
>even stop caching these thumbnails at generally?
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Haven't had that with K-9, but my file manager Antek File Manager insists on 
using a thumbnail of one of my large photos as thumbnail for MP3s. This is on 
Android 5.1. So might not be K-9's fault.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: K9 doesn't write to sd card

2019-01-25 Thread David W. Jones
On January 25, 2019 3:08:14 PM HST, Andy Figueroa  
wrote:
>For Android 7 and higher, K9 can't write to the external SD card. Not
>K9's fault.
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>On January 25, 2019 7:18:17 PM EST, Hans-Peter Korn 
>wrote:
>>Well,
>>
>>In the k-9 settings for "account" I can set the storage to "external 
>>storage (SD card)"
>>
>>BUT: Everything still is saved in the internal storage. 
>>
>>Several times I changed the settings from "external" to "internal" and
>>then 
>>back again. With no effect. Only the internal storage is used. 
>>
>>This is my phone:
>>
>>
>>Motorola
>>Moto G (5)
>>
>>HARDWARE
>>Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 430
>>
>>RAM
>>RAM Größe: 2.0 GB
>>
>>INTERNAL STORAGE
>>16 GB
>>EXTERNAL SD CARD
>>124 GB
>>
>>SYSTEM
>>Android Version: 8.1.0 (Oreo)
>>Version: OPPS28.85-13-4
>>
>>Reading some text about "storage" in
>>https://k9mail.github.io/documentation.html ist seems, that it IS the
>>INTENTION of k-9 NOT to use an "external" storage (SD card)
>>
>>OK ... there might be some reasons for that. 
>>
>>BUT: Then the possibility in the settings to select an external
>storage
>>for k-9 is misleading! 
>>the k-9 s
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Well, here on my Android 5.1 tablet, nothing except Android itself can write to 
an SD card, apparently.
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Re: [k-9-mail] ics outlook file not updating properly

2019-02-07 Thread David W. Jones
On February 7, 2019 9:54:11 AM HST, Therese Patterson  
wrote:
>Anyone else have this problem?
>
>The ics outlook calendar files are not updating properly when opening
>up in 
>K9.
>From apple to android, the original calendar event works fine but when
>the 
>organizer updates the time, the file isn't being properly read when
>opened 
>in K9, and therefore, not updating properly. 
>When I open the same file in outlook it works properly so that's why I 
>assume it's k9.
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ICS is a calendar item, not an email, so I don't understand how it's connected 
with K-9.

But my first thought (as someone who uses Outlook all day at the office): when 
something from Outlook doesn't work right  outside of Outlook, Microsoft is 
intentionally doing something in the item to keep it from working. Usually by 
using some non-standard Microsoft-only 'extension' that just 'happens' to break 
functionality for apps that conform to the standard.

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RE: [k-9-mail] ics outlook file not updating properly

2019-02-07 Thread David W. Jones
Ok. It sounds like the problem is at Google Calendar end, possibly caused by 
something Outlook is doing in the ICS it generates.

Maybe try an ICS from Google Calendar, or some other calendar app, see if it 
has same problem when K-9 gets the invite?

On February 7, 2019 12:56:24 PM HST, tp.spamfil...@gmail.com wrote:
>Correct, the outlook calendar invite is an attachment when it shows up
>in K9 then you usually open it and save it and goes into your google
>calendar like normal. However, any edits that are sent after the
>initial calendar invite are not getting updated with correct
>time/changes. Make sense?
>
>From: k-9-mail@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>Of David W. Jones
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>To: k-9-mail@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [k-9-mail] ics outlook file not updating properly
>
>On February 7, 2019 9:54:11 AM HST, Therese Patterson
>mailto:tp.spamfil...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>Anyone else have this problem?
>
>The ics outlook calendar files are not updating properly when opening
>up in K9.
>From apple to android, the original calendar event works fine but when
>the organizer updates the time, the file isn't being properly read when
>opened in K9, and therefore, not updating properly. 
>When I open the same file in outlook it works properly so that's why I
>assume it's k9.
>
>
>ICS is a calendar item, not an email, so I don't understand how it's
>connected with K-9.
>
>But my first thought (as someone who uses Outlook all day at the
>office): when something from Outlook doesn't work right outside of
>Outlook, Microsoft is intentionally doing something in the item to keep
>it from working. Usually by using some non-standard Microsoft-only
>'extension' that just 'happens' to break functionality for apps that
>conform to the standard.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Deletion Settings - Expunge

2019-02-23 Thread David W. Jones
On February 23, 2019 3:10:08 PM HST, Larry L  wrote:
>Still seems to be little flaky the whole Delete Logic not much
>documentation around the logic around those 4 items
>
>So I have two Android devices and both are set the same way talking to
>my
>own IMAP email server/account/provider, not GMAIL.
>
>So here is what I did that seems to work majority of the time
>1) Under  *Settings\Folder Settings* - I set all folders the same on
>all my
>devices. Set to same IMAP Trash folder and the others appropriately.
>From what I understand is if that Trash folder is set then when you
>delete
>a messages in your INBOX or any other folder the message will be  moved
>to
>TRASH folder. Similar to what happens if use outlook.
>2) Under *Settings\Account Settings\Fetch* mail I have the following
>set.
>a) *Sync Server Deletions: Checked* From what I understand this
>will keep the "TRASH" Folder in sync between all devices.
>  b) *When I delete a Message: Delete from Server* From what it
>appears to me all this does is place the messages you jsut deleted into
>the
>TRASH folder you listed in Step 1 above. Then since in 2a it makes sure
>the
>TRASH folder is in sync between all devices using that IMAP.
>c) *Erase deleted messages on server:  Manually*From what I
>understand this will leave messages into your trash folder until you
>EXPUNGE the folders.  I wish they would rename Erase to EXPUNGE.  So if
>you
>set to Immediately or poll the messages would then also be expunged
>from
>the TRASH folder.  Otherwise set to manual, you will have to run the
>EXPUNGE when ever you want to purge the emails from TRASH which should
>then
>clear messages from servers and all the other devices syncing with
>IMAP.
>
>-Larry
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:32 PM John Smith 
>wrote:
>
>> I'm having basically the same issue here, though it's not with Gmail.
>> I have my Spectrum (RoadRunner) account running through K-9 Mail.
>> Synching folder movements is slow, but is completed except for the
>> messages in the trash folder.
>> On K-9 Mail, when messages are deleted, they are not deleted on the
>> server. This requires me to have to log on to my RR appointment and
>delete
>> them there also.
>>
>> Is there a remedy?
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Hmm. Using K-9 with Spectrum over IMAP, when I long press on my Spectrum 
account in the Accounts window and select Empty Trash, K-9 empties the trash 
both locally and on the Spectrum server.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Deletion Settings - Expunge

2019-02-23 Thread David W. Jones
On February 23, 2019 10:32:07 AM HST, John Smith  wrote:
>I'm having basically the same issue here, though it's not with Gmail.
>I have my Spectrum (RoadRunner) account running through K-9 Mail.
>Synching folder movements is slow, but is completed except for the
>messages in the trash folder.
>On K-9 Mail, when messages are deleted, they are not deleted on the
>server. This requires me to have to log on to my RR appointment and
>delete them there also.
>
>Is there a remedy?
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I have Spectrum also, using IMAP connection. When I delete messages in K-9, 
they're deleted on the server. When I empty trash in K-9, it gets emptied on 
the server.

Using K-9 on Android 5.1.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Deletion Settings - Expunge

2019-02-24 Thread David W. Jones
Resending this, got a bounce message saying the K9 email group didn't 
exist. Sorry if this is a duplicate!


On February 23, 2019 10:32:07 AM HST, John Smith 
 wrote:

> I'm having basically the same issue here, though it's not with Gmail.
> I have my Spectrum (RoadRunner) account running through K-9 Mail.
> Synching folder movements is slow, but is completed except for the
> messages in the trash folder.
> On K-9 Mail, when messages are deleted, they are not deleted on the
> server. This requires me to have to log on to my RR appointment and
> delete them there also.
>
> Is there a remedy?

I have Spectrum also, using IMAP connection. When I delete messages in 
K-9, they're deleted on the server. When I empty trash in K-9, it gets 
emptied on the server.


Using K-9 on Android 5.1.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Deletion Settings - Expunge

2019-02-25 Thread David W. Jones

On 2/25/19 12:54 PM, John Smith wrote:

Seems like you've figured out the settings.  Mind sharing so that everyone else 
can have the same good fortune.


Not sure exactly what settings were being referred to, but:

Poll Folder Frequency: None
Poll Folders: Only 1st Class Folders
Push folders: Only 1st Class Folders
Sync Server Deletions: Remove messages when deleted on server.
When I delete a message: Delete from server
Erase deleted messages on server: Immediately

Connection is via IMAP, no security (as Spectrum advised), "Auto-detect 
IMAP namespace" set to whatever K-9's default was at the time I set it 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Deletion Settings - Expunge

2019-02-26 Thread David W. Jones
On February 26, 2019 6:02:27 AM HST, Andy Figueroa  
wrote:
>NO SECURITY!?
>
>That's nuts.
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>On February 26, 2019 2:38:06 AM EST, "David W. Jones"
> wrote:
>>On 2/25/19 12:54 PM, John Smith wrote:
>>> Seems like you've figured out the settings.  Mind sharing so that
>>everyone else can have the same good fortune.
>>
>>Not sure exactly what settings were being referred to, but:
>>
>>Poll Folder Frequency: None
>>Poll Folders: Only 1st Class Folders
>>Push folders: Only 1st Class Folders
>>Sync Server Deletions: Remove messages when deleted on server.
>>When I delete a message: Delete from server
>>Erase deleted messages on server: Immediately
>>
>>Connection is via IMAP, no security (as Spectrum advised),
>"Auto-detect
>>
>>IMAP namespace" set to whatever K-9's default was at the time I set it
>
>>up a couple of years ago.
>>
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They told us to do that because they were having some problem with keeping 
passwords synchronized between different mail servers in their pool. Or 
something like that.

That was shortly after the Charter-TimeWarner merge. It seemed like they were 
having a lot of technical problems and their support people were a bit confused 
between the disparate systems.

I just changed it to use SSL and it's working. So the no security bit can be 
ignored.

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Re: [k-9-mail] displaying from

2019-03-06 Thread David W. Jones
On March 6, 2019 11:16:18 AM HST, Philip Whitehouse  wrote:
>I’d need to dig into it more to work out the current behaviour on any
>given version but there’s still an open issue on the GitHub:
>
>https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues/3738
>
>Best,
>
>Philip Whitehouse
>
>> On 6 Mar 2019, at 18:52, Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Philip Whitehouse  wrote:
>>> I think this issue is because K-9 now looks at List Post addresses
>when deciding what to set as the To address.
>>> 
>>> There’s been discussion about reverting it and making Reply To List
>a separate action. It’s not been done though.
>> 
>> Hmm...  How old is this ‘now’?  The latest release, I believe, is
>still 5.600, and using it I do not observe the issue with _this_ list,
>for instance.  Neither with *@gnu.org, nor with *@lists.debian.org. 
>They do set the ‘List-Post’ header.

I've been on lists (using other mail clients where someone is screaming that 
"REPLY SHOULD GO TO THE LIST!!!" while someone else is screaming "REPLY SHOULD 
GO TO THE POSTER!!!" even while others are fighting over whether a reply should 
go to both the list and the poster or to just one or the other. And those 
aren't Yahoo Groups. And two different lists might have things set up 
differently.

Makes me think that there's no one universal "right" way. So perhaps a setting 
somewhere so user could select their desired option? Asking for that to be 
something specific to an individual list would be tough to implement, yes?

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Re: [k-9-mail] Problem with drafts

2019-03-20 Thread David W. Jones
On March 20, 2019 2:51:13 PM HST, William Boozer  wrote:
>I have been having the same issue... And it is quite annoying... It
>seems like if you just leave K9 to do something else, then it will save
>it as a draft But, if you actually select save to draft... Then it
>deletes the body of email 
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I haven't met that, but K-9 does a couple of annoying (to me) things with 
drafts.

First, it creates a new draft each time I switch. No content is lost, but 
having a couple of drafts of the same email is annoying. Especially if I'm not 
paying attention or just rushing; very easy to pick the wrong draft!

Second, it doesn't remove any of the drafts after I finish and send the email. 
So I have to delete them manually or they just accumulate.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: How can I transfer messages from a old mobil to a new mobil.

2019-04-07 Thread David W. Jones
On April 7, 2019 10:02:26 AM HST, Ramses  wrote:
>El 7 de abril de 2019 21:28:28 CEST, f-d-m 
>escribió:
>>Dear,
>>
>>If you fetch with POP3 (and don't optionally leave the messages on the
>
>>server) they are gone from the server.
>>The only one copy is on your old phone. That's the way POP3 works.
>>
>>Frédéric
>>
>>
>>On Sunday, April 7, 2019 at 1:57:57 PM UTC+2, Ramses II wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear gentlemen,
>>>
>>> I am working qith K-9 in a mobil with vaious pop3 accounts.
>>>
>>> I have buyed a new mobil and I want install K-9 and pass all 
>>> Received/Sended messages that I have in the old mobil to the new
>>mobil.
>>>
>>> I know that I can Export the config in the old mobil and imports it
>>in the 
>>> mobil but Can I transfer the Received / Sended messages from the old
>>mobil 
>>> to the new. With the IMAP accounts there aren't problems but with
>teh
>>POP3 
>>> accounts how can do it?
>>>
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ramses
>>>
>
>Very thanks Frédéric,
>
>Yes, I know that but can you tell me how I can copy the messages from
>the old to the new phone or I can't do this.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Ramses

Here's an idea.

1. Change your POP3 settings on both phones to not delete messages on retrieval.
2. Forward each message on your old phone to yourself. I think that will put a 
copy back up on the POP3 server.
3. Get the messages on your new phone.
4. Check to make sure you got all the messages on the new phone.
5. Change POP3 settings on new phone to delete on retrieval, and get your 
messages again. I think that will clear out the messages on the server.



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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: How can I transfer messages from a old mobil to a new mobil.

2019-04-09 Thread David W. Jones
On April 8, 2019 9:05:07 PM HST, Ramses II  wrote:
>David, the problem that doing that is that all messages received in the
>new 
>phone will come from me and not from the original sender.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Ramses
>
>El lunes, 8 de abril de 2019, 7:41:06 (UTC+2), David W. Jones escribió:
>>
>> On April 7, 2019 10:02:26 AM HST, Ramses > > wrote: 
>> >El 7 de abril de 2019 21:28:28 CEST, f-d-m > > 
>> >escribió: 
>> >>Dear, 
>> >> 
>> >>If you fetch with POP3 (and don't optionally leave the messages on
>the 
>> > 
>> >>server) they are gone from the server. 
>> >>The only one copy is on your old phone. That's the way POP3 works. 
>> >> 
>> >>Frédéric 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>On Sunday, April 7, 2019 at 1:57:57 PM UTC+2, Ramses II wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Dear gentlemen, 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I am working qith K-9 in a mobil with vaious pop3 accounts. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I have buyed a new mobil and I want install K-9 and pass all 
>> >>> Received/Sended messages that I have in the old mobil to the new 
>> >>mobil. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I know that I can Export the config in the old mobil and imports
>it 
>> >>in the 
>> >>> mobil but Can I transfer the Received / Sended messages from the
>old 
>> >>mobil 
>> >>> to the new. With the IMAP accounts there aren't problems but with
>
>> >teh 
>> >>POP3 
>> >>> accounts how can do it? 
>> >>> 
>> >>>   
>> >>> Regards, 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Ramses 
>> >>> 
>> > 
>> >Very thanks Frédéric, 
>> > 
>> >Yes, I know that but can you tell me how I can copy the messages
>from 
>> >the old to the new phone or I can't do this. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >Regards, 
>> > 
>> >Ramses 
>>
>> Here's an idea. 
>>
>> 1. Change your POP3 settings on both phones to not delete messages on
>
>> retrieval. 
>> 2. Forward each message on your old phone to yourself. I think that
>will 
>> put a copy back up on the POP3 server. 
>> 3. Get the messages on your new phone. 
>> 4. Check to make sure you got all the messages on the new phone. 
>> 5. Change POP3 settings on new phone to delete on retrieval, and get
>your 
>> messages again. I think that will clear out the messages on the
>server. 

Yes. At least it would get the mail moved to the new phone. I think it might be 
the only way (without rooting your phones) to get your email onto the new phone.

Without rooting the phones (as someone else on the list mentioned), Android 
doesn't allow direct access to the email data.

By the way, I've used the Android development tool, adb, to connect to my 
Android tablet and back up some stuff. But with rooting, it can't access the 
data to back it up, either.

In the past, I've moved mail between mail clients by setting up a mail server 
like Mercury/32 on my home network, and using a desktop mail client like 
Thunderbird to drag emails from one account to another. That preserved the 
sender and original header information. K-9 doesn't let us move email between 
accounts, unfortunately. And your emails exist only on your phone, so nothing 
outside the phone can reach them.

Backing up data on Android without root is one of the most annoying things 
about Android. (Another annoying thing is the endless collection of 
app-specific data formats. YADF is a plague!)
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Re: [k-9-mail] Does K-9 Mail include analytics?

2019-04-12 Thread David W. Jones
On April 11, 2019 9:06:38 PM HST, Keith Hutcheon  wrote:
>I'm not meaning to be confrontional, just trying to understand. 
>Network 
>logging shows that K-9 Mail (F-droid version) is sending and receiving 
>packets to/from 157.240.1.35:0 (whois: 
>edge-star-mini-shv-01-lht6.facebook.com:0).  So why is K-9 Mail
>seemingly 
>sharing data with Facebook?  
>
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Hmm. I have K-9 Mail from the Google Play Store (I installed it before I heard 
of F-droid). Could you test that one, too?

Just in case what F-droid offers is somehow different from what's in the Play 
Store.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Does K-9 Mail include analytics?

2019-04-12 Thread David W. Jones
On April 12, 2019 8:36:08 AM HST, Keith Hutcheon  wrote:
>I am using Network Log v2.25.1, on (rooted) CM10.2.1, to see which apps
>are 
>connecting to the internet in the background.  Network Log lists the 
>network activity per app, showing the IP address, packets, bytes and 
>times.  So, right now it shows that K-9 Mail is sending 10 packets (and
>
>receiving 10 packets) every 55 seconds to 157.240.1.35:0 (ICMP/wlan0). 
>
>
>This is straight after installing K-9 Mail, without opening the app for
>a 
>first time, and thus have not yet added any email accounts.  If I
>uninstall 
>K-9 Mail, then Network Log stops registering this activity (i.e. no
>other 
>apps are shown as connecting to 157.240.1.35).  If I reinstall K-9
>Mail, 
>then the pinging of 157.240.1.35 starts again.  Whois says that IP
>address 
>is Facebook.   
>
>
>On Friday, 12 April 2019 15:45:43 UTC+1, Greg Troxel wrote:
>>
>> Mathguy > writes: 
>>
>> > I would point out that the version on F-droid is WAY out of date. 
>It 
>> has 
>> > not been updated there since 2015.  Don't know if that changes
>things 
>> > regarding your question but you're not using the current version. 
>>
>> The version on f-droid is 5.600, added to f-droid on 2018-09-10. 
>Github 
>> shows 5.600 release on 2018-09-02: 
>>   https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases 
>>
>> So f-droid has been updated after 2015, and has the current release. 
>>
>> Can you explain what you mean? 
>>
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The link Keith sent in another email goes to K-9 Material, a self-described 
"unofficial fork" of K-9 Mail, unmaintained since some time in 2017. It sounds 
likely that fork is doing the Facebook contacting.

That's why I asked him to test using K-9 Mail from the Google App store.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Does K-9 Mail include analytics?

2019-04-12 Thread David W. Jones
On April 12, 2019 8:37:01 AM HST, Keith Hutcheon  wrote:
> I don't have the Play Store or Play Services installed.
>
>
>On Friday, 12 April 2019 08:15:57 UTC+1, David W. Jones wrote:
>>
>> On April 11, 2019 9:06:38 PM HST, Keith Hutcheon > > wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not meaning to be confrontional, just trying to understand. 
>Network 
>>> logging shows that K-9 Mail (F-droid version) is sending and
>receiving 
>>> packets to/from 157.240.1.35:0 (whois: 
>>> edge-star-mini-shv-01-lht6.facebook.com:0).  So why is K-9 Mail 
>>> seemingly sharing data with Facebook?  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hmm. I have K-9 Mail from the Google Play Store (I installed it
>before I 
>> heard of F-droid). Could you test that one, too?
>>
>> Just in case what F-droid offers is somehow different from what's in
>the 
>> Play Store.

Then how do you have Android in the first place? My understanding is that Play 
Services is the core of Android.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Does K-9 Mail include analytics?

2019-04-13 Thread David W. Jones
On April 13, 2019 6:05:57 AM HST, Keith Hutcheon  wrote:
>I've got a spare rooted Hudl that does have the Play Store, so I was
>able 
>to install and then copy 'com.fsck.k9-1.apk' from that.  As tested, the
>
>Play Store version of K-9 Mail also connects, in the same way, to 
>157.240.1.35:0 (rDNS: edge-star-mini-shv-01-lht6.facebook.com:0).
>
>To be clear, on my main tablet, I installed K-9 Mail using the F-Droid 
>app.  Conceptually, that is much like using a package manager with a
>Linux 
>distro.  The F-Droid app handles the download from the F-Droid
>repository.  
>No external link involved.  
>
>Mathguy has provided a couple of red herrings.  The F-Droid repository
>has 
>v5.6 of K-9 Mail.  I haven't ever used K-9 Material, largely because it
>is 
>incompatible with my setup (Jelly Bean).
>
>
>On Friday, 12 April 2019 20:42:35 UTC+1, David W. Jones wrote:
>>
>> On April 12, 2019 8:36:08 AM HST, Keith Hutcheon > > wrote:
>>>
>>> I am using Network Log v2.25.1, on (rooted) CM10.2.1, to see which
>apps 
>>> are connecting to the internet in the background.  Network Log lists
>the 
>>> network activity per app, showing the IP address, packets, bytes and
>
>>> times.  So, right now it shows that K-9 Mail is sending 10 packets
>(and 
>>> receiving 10 packets) every 55 seconds to 157.240.1.35:0
>(ICMP/wlan0).  
>>>
>>> This is straight after installing K-9 Mail, without opening the app
>for a 
>>> first time, and thus have not yet added any email accounts.  If I
>uninstall 
>>> K-9 Mail, then Network Log stops registering this activity (i.e. no
>other 
>>> apps are shown as connecting to 157.240.1.35).  If I reinstall K-9
>Mail, 
>>> then the pinging of 157.240.1.35 starts again.  Whois says that IP
>address 
>>> is Facebook.   
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 12 April 2019 15:45:43 UTC+1, Greg Troxel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mathguy  writes: 
>>>>
>>>> > I would point out that the version on F-droid is WAY out of date.
> It 
>>>> has 
>>>> > not been updated there since 2015.  Don't know if that changes
>things 
>>>> > regarding your question but you're not using the current version.
>
>>>>
>>>> The version on f-droid is 5.600, added to f-droid on 2018-09-10. 
>Github 
>>>> shows 5.600 release on 2018-09-02: 
>>>>   https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases 
>>>>
>>>> So f-droid has been updated after 2015, and has the current
>release. 
>>>>
>>>> Can you explain what you mean? 
>>>>
>>>
>> The link Keith sent in another email goes to K-9 Material, a 
>> self-described "unofficial fork" of K-9 Mail, unmaintained since some
>time 
>> in 2017. It sounds likely that fork is doing the Facebook contacting.
>>
>> That's why I asked him to test using K-9 Mail from the Google App
>store.
>> David W. Jones
>> gnome...@gmail.com 
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>>
>> Sent from my Android device with F/LOSS K-9 Mail.
>>
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Perhaps malware has snuck into K-9 Mail?
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Does K-9 Mail include analytics?

2019-04-13 Thread David W. Jones
On April 13, 2019 6:05:57 AM HST, Keith Hutcheon  wrote:
>I've got a spare rooted Hudl that does have the Play Store, so I was
>able 
>to install and then copy 'com.fsck.k9-1.apk' from that.  As tested, the
>
>Play Store version of K-9 Mail also connects, in the same way, to 
>157.240.1.35:0 (rDNS: edge-star-mini-shv-01-lht6.facebook.com:0).
>
>To be clear, on my main tablet, I installed K-9 Mail using the F-Droid 
>app.  Conceptually, that is much like using a package manager with a
>Linux 
>distro.  The F-Droid app handles the download from the F-Droid
>repository.  
>No external link involved.  
>
>Mathguy has provided a couple of red herrings.  The F-Droid repository
>has 
>v5.6 of K-9 Mail.  I haven't ever used K-9 Material, largely because it
>is 
>incompatible with my setup (Jelly Bean).
>
>
>On Friday, 12 April 2019 20:42:35 UTC+1, David W. Jones wrote:
>>
>> On April 12, 2019 8:36:08 AM HST, Keith Hutcheon > > wrote:
>>>
>>> I am using Network Log v2.25.1, on (rooted) CM10.2.1, to see which
>apps 
>>> are connecting to the internet in the background.  Network Log lists
>the 
>>> network activity per app, showing the IP address, packets, bytes and
>
>>> times.  So, right now it shows that K-9 Mail is sending 10 packets
>(and 
>>> receiving 10 packets) every 55 seconds to 157.240.1.35:0
>(ICMP/wlan0).  
>>>
>>> This is straight after installing K-9 Mail, without opening the app
>for a 
>>> first time, and thus have not yet added any email accounts.  If I
>uninstall 
>>> K-9 Mail, then Network Log stops registering this activity (i.e. no
>other 
>>> apps are shown as connecting to 157.240.1.35).  If I reinstall K-9
>Mail, 
>>> then the pinging of 157.240.1.35 starts again.  Whois says that IP
>address 
>>> is Facebook.   
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 12 April 2019 15:45:43 UTC+1, Greg Troxel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mathguy  writes: 
>>>>
>>>> > I would point out that the version on F-droid is WAY out of date.
> It 
>>>> has 
>>>> > not been updated there since 2015.  Don't know if that changes
>things 
>>>> > regarding your question but you're not using the current version.
>
>>>>
>>>> The version on f-droid is 5.600, added to f-droid on 2018-09-10. 
>Github 
>>>> shows 5.600 release on 2018-09-02: 
>>>>   https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases 
>>>>
>>>> So f-droid has been updated after 2015, and has the current
>release. 
>>>>
>>>> Can you explain what you mean? 
>>>>
>>>
>> The link Keith sent in another email goes to K-9 Material, a 
>> self-described "unofficial fork" of K-9 Mail, unmaintained since some
>time 
>> in 2017. It sounds likely that fork is doing the Facebook contacting.
>>
>> That's why I asked him to test using K-9 Mail from the Google App
>store.
>> David W. Jones
>> gnome...@gmail.com 
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>> http://dancingtreefrog.com
>>
>> Sent from my Android device with F/LOSS K-9 Mail.
>>
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Sounds like something that should be reported on the K-9 Mail issue tracker:

https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues

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Re: [k-9-mail] Email with two step authentication not working

2019-04-16 Thread David W. Jones
On April 16, 2019 3:27:33 AM HST, sjb  wrote:
>On 16/04/2019 14:01, Akshay Kumar S wrote:
>
>> getting an error message if my email account has two-step
>authentication.
>
>Create an application specific password to use with k-9

Just wondering - how do you do that? Gmail sometimes warns me that some 
application (K-9) is accessing my mail insecurely. (I am using IMAP over 
TSL-SSL or something, don't remember the exact details.) When I turn Gmail's 
2-factor authentication, K-9 can no longer access Gmail.



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Re: [k-9-mail] Email with two step authentication not working

2019-04-17 Thread David W. Jones

On 4/16/19 5:23 PM, sjb wrote:

On 17/04/2019 00:39, David W. Jones wrote:


Create an application specific password to use with k-9


Just wondering - how do you do that? Gmail sometimes warns me that 
some application (K-9) is accessing my mail insecurely. (I am using 
IMAP over TSL-SSL or something, don't remember the exact details.) 
When I turn Gmail's 2-factor authentication, K-9 can no longer access 
Gmail.


https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en-GB


Thanks. Then how do you put that into K-9? Use it instead of the 
existing email password?


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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: [2019] Adding HTML Into Signatures

2019-05-16 Thread David W. Jones

On 5/15/19 3:15 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:

S  writes:


That would be indeed a nice feature. It is a total bogus assumption that
HTML mails are bad or can cause damage. As long as the feature is optional
and only activated when needed, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Nobody is forced to use it.


As long as I don't get any mails with html signatures unless I check the
"allow others to send me html signatures" box in k-9, then I can see
your point :-)

But seriously -- some of the html mail I get is ok.  Most is infested
with trackers or fails to contain a text/plain with equivalent content.
The broad dislike of html mail has been earned.


Here, here! Especially trackers. Also, attempts to trigger buffer 
overflows in HTML rendering engines.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: [2019] Adding HTML Into Signatures

2019-05-16 Thread David W. Jones
On May 16, 2019 12:54:01 PM HST, Pen Dragon wrote:
>On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 7:07:42 AM UTC-5, S wrote: 
>
>> It is not required to work with CSS effects or to create
>sophisticated 
>> layouts. It's rather about enabling simple formatting, like bold,
>italic, 
>> underline, enumerations, etc.
>
>Yes! This is the point that we trying to convey. Thank you S for saying
>it 
>simpler and elegantly than I had or would have.
>
>It is the simple mechanics of bold, italic, inserting links into words
>or 
>pictures that, little as it may seem, adds great functionality to 
>signatures and the *message body* as well.

Yes, adding images provides great functionality for tracking and other privacy 
invasions.


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Re: [k-9-mail] how to add working yahoo imap email accounts to thunderbird

2019-05-21 Thread David W. Jones
On May 21, 2019 9:35:34 AM HST, Khan1 Khan1  wrote:
>by testing different settings and ports in thunderbird, still yahoo
>imap 
>email accounts are not adding to mozilla thunderbird.
>please tell me what to do.
>thanks.
>
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Yahoo IMAP settings:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20190425125914AAaIXw9

Mozilla support forum about setting up Thunderbird to use Yahoo IMAP:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1122653

While I use Yahoo Mail, I've never tried using it from Thunderbird. My 
understanding was that the free Yahoo mail accounts don't support POP3 or IMAP 
access.
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Re: [k-9-mail] E-mails not being sent

2019-05-21 Thread David W. Jones
On May 21, 2019 11:59:21 AM HST, Kim Stephenson  wrote:
>I have learned that a number of e-mails I though were sent from my
>phone 
>were never sent. Rather, they went into the Outbox folder and there
>they 
>sit. Why does that happen and can I avoid it?
>
>Once in the Outbox folder, I can't figure out how to send them.
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Hmm - they don't send when you tap the refresh button (little circular arrows 
beside the magnifying glass)?
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Re: [k-9-mail] how to add working yahoo imap email accounts to thunderbird

2019-05-21 Thread David W. Jones
On May 21, 2019 6:06:22 PM HST, Khan1 Khan1  wrote:
>Thanks David,
>I already used all of these ports and settings, disabling enabling av,
>2FA, Yahoo app password, Yahoo account key, nothing works.
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Sorry, the only thing I can think of is, is this a free or paid Yahoo account?
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: IMAP Was: Messages deleted on Gmail server when K-9 downloads emails.

2019-05-28 Thread David W. Jones
On May 28, 2019 8:30:26 PM HST, Valerio Messina  wrote:
>yes, Seth and you should test well IMAP, work as expected using many 
>devices and many applications on each device, at the same time, sharing
>
>the data perfectly.
>
>IMAP is just a big extention to POP, simply it always leave all mails
>on 
>server on mail check. If you want (why, I never do that) you can 
>download locally by manual drag mails.
>
>Valerio
>
>On 05/29/19 05:22, Andy Figueroa wrote:
>> You are incorrect about IMAP. It's not confusing at all. It's drop
>dead 
>> simple. I regularly use 3 different devices to manage my IMAP email.
>> 
>> On 5/28/19 10:03 PM, Gerry Matte wrote:
>>> Based on this thread there is no way to instruct current versions of
>
>>> K-9 to leave emails on the server when fetching emails using POP3.
>>> I do not want to use IMAP (as Seth suggests) due to the confusion
>when 
>>> multiple email clients on multiple devices are used to view and
>manage 
>>> my email.
>>> I'm concluding that k-9 can't be safely used for my purposes.
>
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I access my email from tablets using IMAP, then grab all my mails at the end of 
the day using Thunderbird over POP3. Thunderbird is set to download and delete. 
Works fine for me.

I think when you set K-9 to use IMAP, you have to specifically tell it do 
delete emails. Otherwise, they're left on the server.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Empty Trash Doesn't Seem To Do Anything.

2019-05-29 Thread David W. Jones
On May 29, 2019 5:07:03 AM HST, christopher sawtelle  wrote:
>Trying to empty the "trash" on my Android with K9 but it doesn't seem
>to do 
>anything.
>
>I press and hold the account until I get the menu then select empty
>trash 
>but nothing seems to happen.  The folder size stays the same.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions.
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Try going into the account, long press on any folder, then select Clear local 
messages. That's what I had to do.
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Re: [k-9-mail] Syncing disabled on new Samsung Tab S3

2019-06-22 Thread David W. Jones
On June 22, 2019 11:55:12 AM HST, David Floyd  wrote:
>I have been using K9 for several years, both on my phone (NUU) and
>tablet 
>(Chrome Pixel C)
>
>Unfortunatly the Pixel C is palying up and I'v enow got a new Samsung
>Tab S3
>
>I am now going round in circles as I seem to be unable to figure out
>why 
>syncing is disabled - its never been disabled on my other two devices.
>
>Anybody got any ideas pertaining to the Tab S3 that might solve this?
>
>Thanks for any help.

I have no clue, but I'm thinking of getting an S4. So if there's an answer, I'm 
interested, too.

>David

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Re: [k-9-mail] Syncing disabled on new Samsung Tab S3

2019-06-27 Thread David W. Jones
On June 27, 2019 11:48:21 AM HST, Vincent Castellano  
wrote:
>On my Galaxy Note 9 and previously on my S8, syncing seemed to work 
>irregularly.  I just now manually refreshed my Inbox and emails which 
>arrived at the server about an hour earlier were downloaded.  Sometimes
>at 
>the top of the folder list I'll see "Syncing disabled."  But other
>times, 
>without having changed settings it will download mail very promptly.
>
>I have set "Sync messages from 'any time'", Folder Poll frequency Every
>5 
>minutes, Background Sync "always".
>
>I just now noticed that I had "Poll folders" set to "Only 1st class 
>folders" and have set it to "All".
>
>The behavior is as if the app is looking (as some other sync apps like 
>Dropsync do) for some external condition like battery or network to be
>met, 
>but today the batt is at 90%, and even when away from WiFi polling will
>
>sometimes work (maybe 50% of the time, maybe more). 
>
>(Overall, very much like the app, esp for its minimalist design 
>sensibilities, a nice respite from the clown-car behavior of most of
>the 
>rest of the stuff on my phone.)
>--gvc
>
>On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 10:29:16 PM UTC-4, David W. Jones wrote:
>
>> On June 22, 2019 11:55:12 AM HST, David Floyd > > wrote: 
>> >I have been using K9 for several years, both on my phone (NUU) and 
>> >tablet 
>> >(Chrome Pixel C) 
>> > 
>> >Unfortunatly the Pixel C is palying up and I'v enow got a new
>Samsung 
>> >Tab S3 
>> > 
>> >I am now going round in circles as I seem to be unable to figure out
>
>> >why 
>> >syncing is disabled - its never been disabled on my other two
>devices. 
>> > 
>> >Anybody got any ideas pertaining to the Tab S3 that might solve
>this? 
>> > 
>> >Thanks for any help. 
>>
>> I have no clue, but I'm thinking of getting an S4. So if there's an 
>> answer, I'm interested, too. 
>>
>> >David 
>>
>> Another David 
>>
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On my Android 5.1 tablet, I only see "Syncing disabled" when offline (no 
network or airplane mode). On my Android 7 tablet, I sometimes see that from 
gmail regardless of network connection.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Update from 5.600?

2019-08-14 Thread David W. Jones
On August 13, 2019 9:22:54 PM HST, Frank Roehm  wrote:
>Hello
>
>Since nearly a year there has not been any update, 5.600 is the last
>version since 2. September 2018.
>
>Anyone knows if there is a ETA for 5.700 or higher?
>
>I ask because i use a version with compressing image attachments but
>this is not 100% stable and I hope the original update contains the
>merged pull request of it and less bugs.
>
>Thanks
>Frank
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Doesn't look like there's anything newer in Play Store or F-Droid.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Disappearing Notifications

2019-08-15 Thread David W. Jones
On August 15, 2019 12:06:01 PM HST, Gerad Sarb  wrote:
>I thought about that but K-9 is the only app that this happens with. No
>other app notifications dissappear like this, leading me to believe it
>is something with K-9 itself.
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Might be? K-9 updates haven't been very frequent.

What Android/device? No such problem here on Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 with Android 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Disappearing Notifications

2019-08-15 Thread David W. Jones
On August 15, 2019 4:29:11 PM HST, Gerad Sarb  wrote:
>Issues first popped up on my last phone, an LG-V30 running Android 8.
>The issue continued on my next and current phone, an LG-G7 ThinQ
>running Android 8 initially and upgrading to Android 9 currently.
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So possibly a problematic interaction with newer Androids, or something 
peculiar to LG? I'm considering an LG phone.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Disappearing Notifications

2019-08-16 Thread David W. Jones
What manufacturers? Some of them lay their own launchers, notification 
systems and such on top of stock Android. I don't know if LG does that, 
but I believe Samsung does.


On 8/15/19 5:46 PM, Andy Figueroa wrote:
I have devices running K-9 on an Android 4.4, 5, 7, and 9 with no 
disappearing notifications. Each syncs with five different IMAP servers.

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On August 15, 2019 10:38:05 PM EDT, "David W. Jones" wrote:

On August 15, 2019 4:29:11 PM HST, Gerad Sarb wrote:

Issues first popped up on my last phone, an LG-V30 running Android 8. 
The issue continued on my next and current phone, an LG-G7 ThinQ running 
Android 8 initially and upgrading to Android 9 currently.


So possibly a problematic interaction with newer Androids, or
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Re: [k-9-mail] How to modify date format?

2019-08-19 Thread David W. Jones
On August 19, 2019 3:44:36 AM HST, "Francesco L."  
wrote:
>My phone language is English but I want date format to be like
>day/month/year instead of this confusing month/date/year. Is there a
>way? I have been trying not to avail so far.
>Thanks
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A guess: Try UK English? I think that uses day/month/year.

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Re: [k-9-mail] How to modify date format?

2019-08-19 Thread David W. Jones
On August 19, 2019 6:53:12 AM HST, Francesco Lancellotta 
 wrote:
>Let me my previous statement. I selected into android settings uk
>English as primary language and now the problem is solved. Thanks again
>
>On 19 August 2019 18:39:29 CEST, "David W. Jones"
> wrote:
>>On August 19, 2019 3:44:36 AM HST, "Francesco L."
>> wrote:
>>>My phone language is English but I want date format to be like
>>>day/month/year instead of this confusing month/date/year. Is there a
>>>way? I have been trying not to avail so far.
>>>Thanks
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>>A guess: Try UK English? I think that uses day/month/year.
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RE: [k-9-mail] Turning off address and server name rewriting

2019-08-24 Thread David W. Jones
On August 24, 2019 7:38:12 AM HST, Charles Buckley  
wrote:
>But with me it only ‘helps’ in K-9.   In Chrome or something, there are
>no unwanted additions.
>
>I am using a US keyboard, and US Android 8 phone.  But still it
>misbehaves.
>
>The worst thing when using K-9, is it does this for email addresses. 
>For example, jan...@polcon.pl becomes janusz@polcon.compl.  So it’s not
>just for web addresses.But in gmail, there is no unwanted address
>augmentation.
>
>Ch.
>
>From: k-9-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:k-9-mail@googlegroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Gunter Königsmann
>Sent: Samstag, 24. August 2019 19:15
>To: k-9-mail@googlegroups.com; Andy Figueroa
>Subject: RE: [k-9-mail] Turning off address and server name rewriting
>
>
>My android keyboard tries to help me by adding a "com" if I enter a dot
>at the end of a web address. My guess would be that there are more
>helpful keyboards out there.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Gunter.
>
>Am 24. August 2019 17:08:39 MESZ schrieb Andy Figueroa
>:
>
>I'm sure enough. I've set up K-9 dozens of times over the years and not
>experienced anything like this in it. Most of my accounts are not .com.
>--
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>
>On August 24, 2019 10:26:25 AM EDT, Charles Buckley
> wrote:
>
>Hi Andy, 
>
>Thanks for the quick answer, but I’m not sure I believe it.  The
>evidence to the contrary is:
>
>1.   When I set up gmail, I typed in lots of server names, and have
>been using gmail pretty regularly, entering addresses.  No such changes
>happen.
>
>2.   Some of these changes are pretty email-specific, so I would
>suspect rather the mail program than the phone operating system.  Let’s
>say that the unitary server for one of my mail accounts is
>‘irgl.mrp.eu’ (I’ve changed the name, but it’s similar in form –
>notably there is no .com anywhere in sight).   When I set up gmail, I
>could enter this server name unchanged.  When I set up K-9, for the
>incoming server, the server name was changed to ‘imap.ergl.mrp.comeu’
>and for the outgoing server, it was changed to ‘smtp.ergl.mrp.comeu’. 
>Somehow I have a hard time believing that Android itself would be doing
>such a thing.  
>
>With such community-developed software, sometimes not all those
>involved are ‘in the picture’ about what others are doing.  I’ve
>cleaned out my share of ‘rogue commits’ in my day.  
>
>So are you sure this is not a K-9 feature?   If it is, it would be
>great to have it turn-offable.
>
>Charles Buckley
>
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>Subject: Re: [k-9-mail] Turning off address and server name rewriting
>
>That must be your advanced Andrioid device talking. K-9 does no such
>thing.
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>On August 24, 2019 5:52:38 AM EDT, Charles Buckley
> wrote:
>
>It was suggested that I try K-9, which seems to address many
>shortcomings of Google mail.
>
>When I did, I noticed a really bizarre behavior -- when I'm entering an
>email address or a server name during setup, K-9 will change '.' to
>'.com' or do even more bizarre things with IMAP and SMTP server names. 
>This may be considered a good thing for people in the US who all think
>the same way, but outside the US; the conventions are different, so it
>just leads to trashed email addresses and server names.  
>
>Is there any way to turn this 'feature' off?   I walked the menus and
>read the documentation, but didn't find anything.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ch.

I've never encountered that in K-9. That's why I don't think it's a K-9 
feature. Maybe there's an option in Android settings to turn off autocompletion?

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: K9 stopped working reliably when my Galaxy Tab A updated to Android 9

2019-09-14 Thread David W. Jones
On September 13, 2019 8:49:15 PM HST, "Gunter Königsmann" 
 wrote:
>Most of your apps will generate money somehow. A famous music
>recognition app will determine your location every few minutes and send
>it to an ad network. Other apps will every few minutes download ads and
>act as if they show them to you. A weather app I once used at one point
>used android's voice recognition service for targeting ads (it
>transfered about a gigabyte of data a week whilst doing this). And some
>apps just try a bit too much to be informed about things they actually
>need to know.
>
>Most android devices try to avoid waking up your device draining your
>battery for these reasons. And they try to be smarter than the app
>authors that try to be smarter than the device manufacturers. 
>
>k9  regularly wakes up your device connecting the net in order to scan
>for mails. If it stops working for you the most probable reason is that
>your device misinterprets this behavior for draining the battery for no
>reason killing the app.
>
>On my own phone k9 works like a charm. But other apps required me to go
>to the "apps" section of my android section, to manually search for the
>"battery optimized apps" section and to find out how to add more apps
>to it after selecting "optimized apps". Needed a quarter of an hour to
>find this setting even if I knew it had to be there.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>  Gunter.
>
>On 13 September 2019 21:12:13 CEST, "Noam H Arzt, PhD" 
>wrote:
>>Was this battery optimization related to my original question?
>>
>>If so, I don't see how to disable a specific app from battery
>>optimization.
>>
>>Noam
>>
>>On 9/13/2019 9:39 AM, Mathguy wrote:
>>
>>Actually, one thing comes to mindhave you checked the Battery
>>Optimization and made sure that K9 is NOT optimized?
>>
>>On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 11:39:06 AM UTC-5, Mathguy wrote: 
>>
>>I have a Pixel 3 XL and K9 worked flawlessly on Pie and is working
>just
>>as well on Android 10.  So, I wonder what the problem is.  Maybe
>>uninstall and reinstall?
>>
>>On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 11:32:29 AM UTC-5, Will Corless
>wrote:
>>
>>
>>This same thing happened to me on my Google Pixel 3 XL. As soon as I
>>upgraded to Android Pie, I no longer get notifications and the app
>>stopped refreshing.  It now says something like "Next poll in 6 hours
>>ago" and just keeps counting up the amount of time since it should
>have
>>checked until I manually check the mail.
>>
>>On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 9:14:28 AM UTC-7, Noam Arzt wrote: 
>>
>>Using a model SM-T387V which did a system update yesterday morning.
>>Ever since the app craps out on most message views. Anyone else seeing
>>this? 
>>
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>Noam
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It also could be something Samsung is doing that's different from what 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: K9 stopped working reliably when my Galaxy Tab A updated to Android 9

2019-09-14 Thread David W. Jones
Sounds like an issue with formatting in the message and whatever engine 
K-9 uses to render it. Is the message in HTML format?


On 9/14/19 6:21 PM, Noam H Arzt, PhD wrote:
No error message. I view a message and the app just craps out and 
returns to the Android home screen.


Noam

On September 14, 2019 9:13:10 PM PDT, "Gunter Königsmann" 
 wrote:


OK... ...then the question would have been: can you describe the
symptoms of the problem? Does it just show a blank message - or an
error message of some sorts?

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: K9 stopped working reliably when my Galaxy Tab A updated to Android 9

2019-09-18 Thread David W. Jones

Hmm, just wondering. Is "you" below referring to Gunter?

My "sounds like an issue with formatting" message was sent using K-9. 
This message is being sent from Thunderbird, which is set to send plain 
text.


On 9/14/19 6:49 PM, Noam H Arzt, PhD wrote:
Who the heck knows. But a previous message from you on this list fails. 
Not all of them though.


Noam

On September 14, 2019 9:31:09 PM PDT, "David W. Jones" 
 wrote:


Sounds like an issue with formatting in the message and whatever engine
K-9 uses to render it. Is the message in HTML format?

On 9/14/19 6:21 PM, Noam H Arzt, PhD wrote:

No error message. I view a message and the app just craps out and
returns to the Android home screen.

Noam

On September 14, 2019 9:13:10 PM PDT, "Gunter Königsmann"
 wrote:

OK... ...then the question would have been: can you describe the
symptoms of the problem? Does it just show a blank message - or an
error message of some sorts?

    Kind regards,

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: K9 stopped working reliably when my Galaxy Tab A updated to Android 9

2019-09-24 Thread David W. Jones
On September 24, 2019 9:38:28 AM HST, "Gunter Königsmann" 
 wrote:
>I dislike bugs that aren't reliable because there is always a chance
>that none of the devs will ever see them on their phone or if they do
>there is a chance that the crash will only happen if there is no
>debugger.
>
>On 24 September 2019 18:05:28 CEST, Win Bent 
>wrote:
>>I have the same system (Galaxy Tab A, recently updated to Android 9)
>>with the same problem. Specific messages with HTML content cause a
>>crash, even if I don't select "show pictures."
>>
>>The annoying part is, it's not consistent. Sometimes it crashes to the
>>K-9 list of mail servers/accounts, and sometimes it crashes to the
>>Android "desktop." For one message in particular, I was able to fully
>>load it and show pictures... once. Since then, it always causes K-9 to
>>crash, immediately upon opening the message. Another message crashed
>>three times, but did not crash the next time I opened it.
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Also possible that the bug isn't entirely in K-9. Could also be dependent on 
whatever system library K-9 uses for rendering HTML mail (assuming K-9 does 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Can't receive at background on PALM PHONE

2019-09-25 Thread David W. Jones
On September 25, 2019 6:12:52 PM HST, Noriaki HARADA 
 wrote:
>I've got resolve this problem by myself.
>
>- To resolve, set K-9 widget on a widget screen (right side window) on
>PALM 
>PHONE.
>
>Receiving mail at background works fine.
>
>Thank you.
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Ah! Basically with the widget running, Android thinks K-9 is running or in use, 
so it no longer blocks it or puts it to sleep?

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Re: [k-9-mail] K-9 MAIL for IPHONE

2019-09-26 Thread David W. Jones
On September 25, 2019 10:20:31 PM HST, NASTIMED Adrian 
 wrote:
>Hello there,
>
>K-9 Mail isntavailable for Iphone, right ? 

Not as far as I could find via searching.

>Please can someone do something 
>to make it available for IPHONE also, not only for ANDROID. 
>Its kind urgent. 

Completely different code base kind of works against "urgent".

I suppose if there's an Android emulator for iPhone, you could try this:

https://techbeasts.com/k-9-mail-for-pc-download-free-windowsmac/

Here are some alternatives to K-9 on iPhone:

https://alternativeto.net/software/k-9/?platform=iphone


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Re: [k-9-mail] How to memorise e-mail, (when you send email , to have already a list of emails)

2019-10-04 Thread David W. Jones

On 10/3/19 8:20 PM, SV AG. MAIER ELENA wrote:

Hy,

I have a problem, how do i memorise e-mail adresses ?

The problem actually is  that everytime when i have to send an e-mail, 
the adresses do not memorise in the memory of the k-9 mail app on my 
smathphone.


Please help me to find a way to do this. This will help me so so much.

Thanks to all of you that come with a good help response.

A good day to you all.

Adrian.


I don't believe K-9 has its own email address book. It uses the contacts 
app on your phone.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Can't receive at background on PALM PHONE

2019-10-04 Thread David W. Jones

On 10/3/19 6:46 PM, Noriaki HARADA wrote:

Thank you, David.

It no longer puts K-9 process to sleep.

But, rarely, receiving mail at background looks not work.
I couldn't find out that reason.


Hmm. Does your device put its wifi/data connection to sleep, too?

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Re: [k-9-mail] Suddenly unable to download mails - Cannot contact host

2019-11-23 Thread David W. Jones
On November 23, 2019 9:08:44 AM HST, Andy Figueroa  
wrote:
>I think you have to ask one.com. This would not be a generic or K-9
>problem.
>
>On 11/23/19 1:44 PM, Andy wrote:
>> I'm using K9 on my Android. I have two mail accounts provided by
>one.com. By 
>> November 22, for no apparent reason, K9 is no more able to download
>mails 
>> from the .mobi-address, however the .pm-address works fine. Testing
>the 
>> settings gives "Cannot contact host", though I haven't changed any
>settings, 
>> and the settings are exactly the same as the ones for the .pm
>address.
>> 
>> The settings are:
>> 
>> IMAP-server imap.myname.mobi
>> SSL/TLS
>> Port 993
>> User name: my.n...@name.mobi
>> Authentication: normal
>> Password: mypassword
>> 
>> What is wrong here


My guess: their .mobi server is down.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: enable/disable k9-mail ?

2020-01-09 Thread David W. Jones
On January 9, 2020 6:41:12 PM HST, GZU  wrote:
>
>I do this by setting my polling frequency to never then manually 
>polling/syncing when required.
>
>
>
>On Thursday, 9 January 2020 20:04:35 UTC+11, Episteme PROMENEUR wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> First I must say this is the sole mail app I found which works well
>with 
>> IMAP protocol. It synchronizes all folders not only the standard ones
>(not 
>> Samsung email or gmail).
>>
>> Thanks to k-9 team.
>>
>> I don't always need to use k9.
>>
>> Is there a switch to enable/disable k-9-mail or an account ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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You can set polling at the individual account level: Account Settings - 
Fetching - Polling. So you can set one account to never poll and other accounts 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: enable/disable k9-mail ?

2020-01-11 Thread David W. Jones
I have it in K-9 5.6. Apparently it's gone or well-hidden in 5.7 for 
unfathomable reasons.


On 1/11/20 1:42 AM, Episteme PROMENEUR wrote:

There is no k9-mail accounts in account settings

Le vendredi 10 janvier 2020 08:17:40 UTC+1, David W. Jones a écrit :

On January 9, 2020 6:41:12 PM HST, GZU  wrote:


I do this by setting my polling frequency to never then manually
polling/syncing when required.



On Thursday, 9 January 2020 20:04:35 UTC+11, Episteme PROMENEUR
wrote:

Hello

First I must say this is the sole mail app I found which
works well with IMAP protocol. It synchronizes all folders
not only the standard ones (not Samsung email or gmail).

Thanks to k-9 team.

I don't always need to use k9.

Is there a switch to enable/disable k-9-mail or an account ?

Thanks


You can set polling at the individual account level: Account
Settings - Fetching - Polling. So you can set one account to never
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Re: [k-9-mail] BUG cursor jumping to mail body when typing recipient mail address

2020-01-13 Thread David W. Jones
On January 13, 2020 8:16:58 PM HST, Thibault Roulet  wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Small but annoying bug in version 5.6
>Sometimes, when writing the recipient address in a new message, the
>cursor 
>jumps by itself in the body section of the mail, leaving the address 
>incomplete with a red exclamation mark telling me the address could not
>be 
>parsed.
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Hmm. Haven't had that happen here unless I accidentally tap Enter, a tab, or 
accidentally tap in the body.

K-9 5.6 on Android 7.

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Re: [k-9-mail] BUG cursor jumping to mail body when typing recipient mail address

2020-01-14 Thread David W. Jones
On January 13, 2020 9:52:11 PM HST, Thibault Roulet  wrote:
>I think I found the way to reproduce it.
>
>Start typing an address, K9 will propose a list of known addresses but
>then when the next letter you type doesn't match any of those
>addresses,
>it jumps out.
>
>
>On 1/14/20 8:43 AM, David W. Jones wrote:
>> On January 13, 2020 8:16:58 PM HST, Thibault Roulet
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Small but annoying bug in version 5.6
>> Sometimes, when writing the recipient address in a new message,
>> the cursor jumps by itself in the body section of the mail,
>> leaving the address incomplete with a red exclamation mark
>telling
>> me the address could not be parsed.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>> Hmm. Haven't had that happen here unless I accidentally tap Enter, a
>> tab, or accidentally tap in the body.
>>
>> K-9 5.6 on Android 7.
Thanks, Thibault. I believe it's happening on your installation. Unfortunately, 
I can't reproduce it here with either the Samsung Keyboard or the Graffiti Pro 
Keyboard I usually use.

I have word suggestions/predictive text turned off. Could that feature be 
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Re: [k-9-mail] Any other K-9 users been warned by ISPs that K-9 will soon be refused entrance?

2020-01-14 Thread David W. Jones
On January 14, 2020 8:22:58 AM HST, Valerio Messina  wrote:
>On 01/14/20 18:20, Iolo and Peibyn wrote:
>> You can find a little more information here: 
>>
>https://www.sky.com/help/articles/problems-accessing-sky-mail-from-your-email-app
>> 
>> 
>> So I have just posted a request in the K-9 Developers group, asking
>them 
>> to update K-9 so that it can still be used.  Creating this brilliant
>app 
>> involved an enormous amount of work: it only needs a little more to
>keep 
>> it going.
>> 
>> Hoping for a positive response from someone here.
>
>K9 mail is not listed neither in supported and unsupported app.
>Neither Thunderbird is listed there, so you can understand how much
>that provider is tech aware.

Better than our ISP. They only support their own webmail. Called them once, 
they hadn't even heard of Thunderbird - which has far more users than our ISPs 
entire subscriber list.

>Anyway what they are asking is the support of SSL, K9 support SSL from 
>the beginning

That was my thought, too. Or OAUTH, app-specific(?) passwords, 2-factor 
authentication?




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Re: [k-9-mail] BUG cursor jumping to mail body when typing recipient mail address

2020-01-16 Thread David W. Jones
Sorry, Thibault. I have no idea. Putting this back onto the K-9 list to 
widen the pool of knowledgeable people.


Also, which version of Android are you using? My tablet's only on 
Android 7. Maybe the issue is connected with a newer Android than mine.


On 1/13/20 10:23 PM, Thibault Roulet wrote:
That's weird. I tried with the classic gboard and swift keyboard and 
same issue.


On gboard config, I disabled more less everything about auto correction 
and prediction.


Is there a way in K-9 to remove the addresses proposition?

Thibault



On 1/14/20 9:05 AM, David W. Jones wrote:

On January 13, 2020 9:52:11 PM HST, Thibault Roulet  wrote:

I think I found the way to reproduce it.

Start typing an address, K9 will propose a list of known addresses but
then when the next letter you type doesn't match any of those
addresses,
it jumps out.


On 1/14/20 8:43 AM, David W. Jones wrote:

On January 13, 2020 8:16:58 PM HST, Thibault Roulet
  wrote:

 Hi all,

 Small but annoying bug in version 5.6
 Sometimes, when writing the recipient address in a new message,
 the cursor jumps by itself in the body section of the mail,
 leaving the address incomplete with a red exclamation mark

telling

 me the address could not be parsed.

 Thanks in advance


Hmm. Haven't had that happen here unless I accidentally tap Enter, a
tab, or accidentally tap in the body.

K-9 5.6 on Android 7.

Thanks, Thibault. I believe it's happening on your installation. Unfortunately, 
I can't reproduce it here with either the Samsung Keyboard or the Graffiti Pro 
Keyboard I usually use.

I have word suggestions/predictive text turned off. Could that feature be 
triggering this behavior?




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Re: [k-9-mail] Intersperse response when replying

2020-01-18 Thread David W. Jones
On January 18, 2020 5:01:27 AM HST, Potomac Flyer  
wrote:
>In my PC email client I can intersperse my response in the received 
>message. For example, if the received email asks several questions, I
>can put my answer after each question.

Yes, the only way to handle such emails! :)

>Is there a way to do that in K9?

While replying, tap the pencil icon in the section where the original message 
is. Then tap where you want to reply and edit it to your heart's content!



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