Stus-List Meeting US Watercraft...

2014-09-22 Thread David via CnC-List
All, Below is an excerpt from an Post Script e-mail sent out to the NE Rendezvous Attendees. C & C Yachts/ US Watercraft were wonderful. Not only did they sponsor the Saturday evening's festivities, they brought over the 30 and the 41 for boarding and sailing. Lucky were the ones who co

Stus-List Northeast Rendezvous

2014-09-22 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Hi Guys,It was really great to meet you guys in Newport on Saturday. I regret not having brought Lolita but, I had a great time none-the-less! I really enjoyed seeing the boats and thanks to those that let me board and have a look around! I say job well done. It's really cool to put faces to

Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap.

2014-09-22 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
If the 29 is like the 30, then the whole top of the mast (aluminum casting) comes off - it rests on the top of the mast, but the casting goes down inside of the mast. The sheaves are in the top piece, and you must take it off to get the sheave axles out. Mine is secured with about 8 stainless sc

Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap

2014-09-22 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
I would just go ahead and pay to un-step the mast. I was all worried about that before doing it last spring. It took 10 minutes of taping the rod threads (To mark the turnbuckle position adjustment), 10 minutes for 'Stumpy' to pick it up with the travel lift and set it down on saw horses (

Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
You got a bargain! Cost me $400 to unstep the mast of my 35, and $800 for my 28 in Annapolis! Joel On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >I would just go ahead and pay to un-step the mast. > >I was all worried about that b

Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap

2014-09-22 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
FWIW, We sometimes hire a crane tow truck to unstep masts or to lift out an engine. Much cheaper than a boatyard. Dennis C. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > You got a bargain! Cost me $400 to unstep the mast of my 35, and $800 for >

Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
I'm in the same boat (Pun intended) The kids dig it, every one except the dog and my wife loves to hang out on the rail when the wind pipes up. No matter how much I tell my wife that the lake winds and little chop are not even close to being a challenge for a boat that was meant for offshore

Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap

2014-09-22 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
We pay about $200 to unstep and $300 for the step at my marina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 9:27 AM To: Jean-Francois J Rivard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap

Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap

2014-09-22 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Wow. The yards around here us the travel lift or a Lull with a jib boom on the end of the forklift mast to haul masts. The going rate is $65 per hour. I've seen a couple of masts lifted out while the boat sits in the haul out slip, then the boat goes back to her slip while the work on the mast i

Re: Stus-List Anchor chain cover

2014-09-22 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
When one of my crew lost the cover overboard, I bought a new hawse pipe made of polished stainless steel on EBay for about $29US. The cap on this one is on a hinge and spring loaded so it stays in place (open the cap and slide it on the hinge and it props open for letting out or recovering chain

Re: Stus-List video

2014-09-22 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
Great video. I have a 27 V and it is nice to see one sailed so well. I wish I had a crew that could tack that smoothly. What boat finished first? What do you use for a main sail. I will probably get one next season. I just added a Garhauer rigid vang. Jerry J&J C&C 27 v. Sent from m

Re: Stus-List Meeting US Watercraft...

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I'm looking forward to seeing the boats in Annapolis. I can dream! Joel On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:52 AM, David via CnC-List wrote: > All, > > Below is an excerpt from an Post Script e-mail sent out to the NE > Rendezvous Attendees. > > >- C & C Yachts/ US Watercraft were wonderful. Not o

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-22 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
I think that this usually happens at the same time (and frequency) as the keel falls off Marek (in Ottawa) From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:09 PM To: Martin DeYoung ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com ; Fred Hazzard Subject: Stus-List sailing under jib alone I am not s

Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
Ouch! The club here has two smaller fixed cranes and a "pole cat" - a used utility truck with a boom arm. The smallest fixed crane will do masts easily up to 30 - 32' boats. All are available for free with volunteers operating the pole cat. For haul out the club hires in two large cranes. So we

Re: Stus-List c and c 29-2 mast cap

2014-09-22 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Apparently it pays to belong to a good Club. We do, generally, the same. Up to 5000 t (~1 lb.) boat - you can do it for free using one of the two fixed cranes. Of course, you have to have means to move the boat from under the crane afterwards. There are service providers that would do a c

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
I've been lucky. My first admiral was gung-ho for almost anything thrilling, so sailing on the windows was not a problem. We used to take our Coronado 15 dinghy out into the ocean from Marina del Rey and up to Santa Monica and back - surfing down the side of waves on the way back. (she then co-d

Stus-List NW Rendezvous 2015

2014-09-22 Thread Alan Bergen via CnC-List
Jim: We should try to get US Watercraft to visit at the NW rendezvous, next year. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR - Original Message - Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, vis

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
All, I’ve been lucky as well, but I can offer up some good tips: 1. If you race the boat, get her on to the racing team. I know this may create the Seinfeld-esqe paradox of “Worlds Colliding”, but her comfort level will increase drastically when she sees the boat heeling while under the

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Some great advice! My wife, a very reluctant sailor, sought advice years ago from Edwin Gaynor (RIP). She did not act on his advice - which was " go racing" until this year. Made all the difference - along with sailing with girl friends on the Ideal 18s. -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT

Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
All the discussion about unstepping the mast has me wondering about the merits of leaving it in or pulling it out for the winter. In the owners manual for the CS 30 is states CS Yachts does not recommend that the yacht be stored with the mast left in place as this places stresses on the hull a

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Just don't ask her to go up the mast to retrieve a halyard! Joel On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Indigo via CnC-List wrote: > Some great advice! My wife, a very reluctant sailor, sought advice years > ago from Edwin Gaynor (RIP). She did not act on his advice - which was " go > racing" until

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Mast up with a boat on jack stands is not a good idea. Many clubs around here do not permit it -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stu

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Jack Brennan via CnC-List
Ha! My wife prefers being hoisted in a bosun’s chair, even though she’s so-so on sailing. That comes from many years of roller coasters and other thrill rides. First time one of us had to go up, I offered her a choice. Her reply was, “I’m not going to do all of the work while you sit in that c

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Ron Casciato via CnC-List
In the boatyards around Boston.almost no masts are removed for winter storage..most are stored with mast up and seem to do well In the past 14 years, I've only taken mine down for revisions or repairs to wind instruments..probably 3 times in that 14 year interval...

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Same in Annapolis. Masts stay in the boat unless they are being worked on. Joel On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Ron Casciato via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > In the boatyards around Boston.almost no masts are removed for > winter storage..most are stored with m

Re: Stus-List wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread dwight via CnC-List
Seems to me you guys confer the title "Admiral" far too easily.just try to make it a fun activity, racing can be fun for some but in my experience not for all.warmth is important so get good gear. concentrate on reaching legs, close reaches, beam reaches and broad reaches are easy, fast and fun.cho

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
This is a long time debate. Which damages boat / mast more? Removal and reinstall of mast and potential mishaps or leaving it up? I know that one season on our J27 we left the mast up. That Spring while working on the boat the entire cradle would vibrate every time a gust of wind hit. I att

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List
Mine goes down every 4 years for inspection of rod rig, tangs etc...This winter, besides inspecting the rig, I have to get to the keel bolt below the mast step and also deal with failed wind instrument. My datamarine connector at the masthead is worn. I also plan on changing to LED tricolor and a

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Ron Casciato via CnC-List
Mike: I agree that we haven't talked about this one for some time..in my case (mast up)...the cost to take it down and put it back up is prohibitivemore than $500 which is not part of the storage agreementnot doing that every year. Ron C. _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cn

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
The yard where I keep my boat requires the mast to come down for winter storage on the hard. I feel it gives me the opportunity to have a look at everything every year. It also makes covering her up a lot easier... DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA -- Original Message --

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Ours used to do so as well - "insurance" now, we can leave them up. Mine comes down every two or three years, just because I either have to fix something up there or under the mast step. Last year, I got the mast out and stored the boat under the shed - no cover, no nothing. neat! The ye

Re: Stus-List Meeting US Watercraft...

2014-09-22 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I saw the two boats at the Newport Boat Show. One of the reasons I have bought 2 C&C’s is because I can easily single hand them due to the setup of the wheel and the primary winches. Many boats I would never consider because it would be impossible or impractical to sail shorthanded. Neither o

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
an extra consideration is that if you are hauling by a crane, the procedure is much more labour and time intensive. We tried it with a couple of boats at the Club and everyone (probably other than the owners) hate it. If they are charged by the hour, it would be more agreeable. But if they are c

Stus-List Landfall 38 sole supports

2014-09-22 Thread PME via CnC-List
Hi, The teak and holly sole on my LF38 rests on several ~4' long black painted square tubes. I have two short (~2' long) but otherwise identical to the other sole supports which were given to me in a box with other components. I have tried to locate where these short supports go, but I cann

Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
I'll let you guys know how the lessons help.. Racing did not help, she clammed-up even worse for fear that she'd screw something up. Even if on that particular race, everything that could be screwed-up was already taken care of so no one really cared. No amount of screwing-up was going to make

Stus-List winter mast removal

2014-09-22 Thread patricia barkley-higginbottom via CnC-List
The major consideration that I have in winter mast removal is that a keel stepped mast leaks water into the bilge and in Ontario cold winters leads to ice where I do not want it. My mast comes down and the boat is shrink wrapped. Yes , I could install a garboard drain I suppose but the bilge co

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Francois: The only other suggestion is to make something on the boat “hers”, something she will ultimately know better than you. In my wife’s case, its handling under power. It could be anything. Another thing you can try is having a “goal”, something that can only be accomplished by the two

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
I heard of a boat named "Ruthless". The guy's wife's name was Ruth. Then there was the famous race boat, "FUJIMO". IIRC it stands for "F*#$k you Judy I'm moving on." Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle [Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-bou

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Don't just send your lady to sailing lessons. Send her to a week long ladies only sailing class. It's a LOT different than taking lessons with a coed group. She will not just get sailing lessons, she will get emotional support, counselling, share experiences with other women, etc. Chances are i

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Danny Do you know of an available Viking 33 mast? Mike -Original Message- From: CnC-List on behalf of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Mon 22/09/2014 4:48 PM To: rjcasci...@comcast.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter? The yard where I keep my boa

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
I agree with Dennis, I sent my wife through the Womanship Sailing program in 1982. She spent a week in the USVI with 7 other women. Returned with a boat load of enthusiasm and has not lost her love for sailing. She on to successfully campaign her J-24 all over the Southeastern USA as well as sailed

Re: Stus-List Wife dosen't like it when the boat leans

2014-09-22 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
What do you guys do when cruising? I often hand over the helm when we are heading across the Bay and then tell her where we want to go (follow the line on the screen.) and then take a nap or do something down below. Just ask her to alert you if there is something she doesn't understand. If y

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
On the first point - jack stand vs cradle --- I just had a new cradle built by a local fabricator -- 6 pad cradle and looks really strong.  Should support the boat well. As for the mast up or down Seems there is no real consensus.  My boat

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List
Hi Mark The BBYC crane is the best in the area for pulling a mast, makes it painless for mine. Were I you I would think about pulling it to allow a proper inspection and maintenance - checking the rigging, the sheaves, and the wiring. All can be done from the chair, but not as well. I've le

Stus-List Mast Crane Replacement ideas, Pictures and comments Requested

2014-09-22 Thread D Harben via CnC-List
Hi, While we are chatting about annual mast pulling our club Is looking at a replacement for our mast crane. We are looking for a design example/picture that is about 15' higher then most. We haul out boats out on a marine railing with our cradle on it. The masts are pulled on dry land whi

Stus-List Landfall 38 sole supports

2014-09-22 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I don't think I have any sole supports that are as short as 2 foot long nor are they black--mine are silver color... Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so m

Re: Stus-List Mast removal for winter?

2014-09-22 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I do not but, there is a maybe salvage yard in Quincy ma. That might have something...  they are called mass marine parts.  They have quite a few mats and one may suffice.  They have a list of masts and the boats they came off listed on their website and I bet they have lots that aren't listed.

Re: Stus-List sailing under jib alone

2014-09-22 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Just has a rig come down yesterday on a Laser 28. It was blowing like snot, tho. The attachment below gave way, and came up through the deck ripping an 8" hole there. They were actually able to get the mast back on the boat and make it back to Port Dover, amazingly. Bill Coleman C&C 39