"What is your point?"
What is it that I said to David Bailey in December which makes you act like a
dog with myxomatosis?
Didn't I tell the truth? Didn't I try to read the fecking manual even if it was
nearly impossible for me to read anything at all? What are you actually ranting
about?
In the Finale 2007 manual, what I believe you want is on p.12-11, under 'To
remove a composite meter.' You can also get there from the Index, under
'Composite time signatures'. I also note that Richard Yates answered your
question with this information on Saturday, August 4.
Thank you, Aaron a
any longer !" That's how pathetic you are.
It would be nice to close this infantile stuff and to discuss something
worthwhile.
Sincerely,
Dr. Will Denayer
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> >> It will be interesting to see if the same stubbornness that caused
> >> you to refuse to do the Finale tutorials in full will cause you
> >> problems learning Sibelius, too.
> >
> > I think comments like the above are best left unsaid--thanks.
> Normally, I would agree with you, but I don't th
"It will be interesting to see if the same stubbornness that caused
you to refuse to do the Finale tutorials in full will cause you
problems learning Sibelius, too."
I was sure that I would get a some sour remarks. I thought it was going to be
about the manual (so I'm wrong about that) and abo
I am tired of this program and I'm going to capitulate and do what everyone
else does over here anyway: I'm going to use Sibelius. I can buy an educational
copy, so it won't be expensive. I have been thinking about this thing for
months and I am amazed that it is so difficult. I suppose I'm extr
Dear All,
I am having some little problems again.
I was writing in 3/4 and wanted a compound measure next. I opened the bar tool
(it says 4/4 I think), filled in what I wanted, clicked OK, no problem. A
couple of measures later, I wanted to go back to 3/4, so I clicked the bar tool
again, but
"The DB sounds an octave lower than written. E.g., if it reads a cello
part (which is often does, hence the term Double Bass), it will sound
an octave lower than the celli."
Dean, I know that, the question is: how can I notate for DB and make the
playback play back the part an octave lower?
'You need to setup the transposition properly for a double bass staff.
Set the transposition to be Up Octave, then use mass mover to transpose
the whole staff down an octave. You will get the lower octave for
playback sound since that's the "real" data, and you'll see the music
an octave higher
Dear Christopher,
I am using Finale 2007c with Garritan Pers. Orch. 2 and the playback engine is
Kontakt 2.
I am talking about double bass solo KS. Artificial harmonics (using TGT) play
back correctly, natural harmonics (articulation tool - no.21), do not play
back, I hear the note which is w
I just found out that the double bass (solo) play backs as is written and not
an octave lower. Is there a way to change this? Strangely enough, artificial
harmonics (for which I use TGT tools) play back, but natural harmonics (which I
notate using the articulation tool and then no. 21) do not. I
Dear All,
I would like to ask a question which does not deal with Finale. I hope this all
right, if not, please accept my apology.
It seems that Haydn wrote a Double Bass Concerto of which, unfortunately, only
two bars exist (whether the rest was written and went lost or was never
written, I
>> "Bbsus(add2)" or "Bbsus4/2" (without the slash and with the "4/2"
>> stacked vertically, like "6/9") is pretty widely used and understood
>> in pop music. But I'm not sure if that's the chord that's actually
>> intended here. "Bb(add9, sus4)" is a bit ambiguous -- it's possible
>> that what's r
Does anyone know if one has to pay any kind of taxes (besides the
outrageous shipping price!), when ordering the 99$ upgrade from MM and
having it shipped to Europe?
Dennis, I bought my copy of Finale 2007 in the USA. They shipped it to Ireland,
I do not recall how much it was, but it was not
Christopher,
Many thanks, Mass edit tool plus press 4 and the thing looks like notation
again.
Best, Will
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Hi Christopher,
Thanks for your answer. As to your questions, I never touched the box in
Measures Attributes and I did not create a mirror.
I know I need to cancel the pizz. marking with an arco marking, but this
cannot explain this phenomenon because otherwise the first and the third notes
Hello,
I was playing with the articulation tool, 3 measures in 4/4, all quarter notes
for violin KS. I put a pluck symbol above the second and the fourth note of the
first measure to see if the playback would be right. It is, but the programme
plays the second and the fourth note of the second
Hello,
I am of course still a complete neophyte in Finale, but so far and given my
needs which are not particularly complex at all, I am not displeased. The thing
I dislike the most is the manual, which I often find hard to understand. Of
course, it has to do with the fact that my native langua
Hello All,
Perhaps some of you remember me. I had surgery and I am much better now. And I
can see normally again after a really long and agonizing time.
I have a question. It is not clear to me how I can write harmonics for strings
- both natural and artificial ones.
I looked it up in the ma
I can think of at least one example where practice followed theory, and that's
the case of
modal/Garlandian notation in the Parisian Organum repertory. The fact
is that the theorists wrote about the rhythmic modes and invented
mode 2 (short long) to balance mode 1 (long short), but at the tim
>>Music Theory, maybe throughout history, is and was always a result
>>of analizing, ...
>
>Ah, yes. I've always thought this was true.
hey will, don't generalize, i had some really interesting profs over
the years... well, at least one.
(yeh i thought that would go unnoticed too)
I did not
Music Theory, maybe throughout history, is and was always a result of
analizing, closely watching at and listening to what other people
already *did*. A rule did not neccessarily apply to them, as theory
was always sort of later than the actual works theory dealt with. So
what is does is to af
Hi Marilyn, Noel, Allen, Just to say that I downloaded the file again and I
could open it immediately, so 2007b is operational now. Many thanks for your
advice, Will
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Hi, I downloaded Finale 2007b today. When the download was complete, a Finale
symbol (with arrow) could be found on my desktop. I cannot open the file
directly and I do not know how to open it from Finale (2007a). First, I thought
I had to re-start the computer, but that doesn't make a differenc
1) Enter the first quarter note in the measure
2) Select the tuplet tool ...
Thank you Noel, this is exactly what I am doing, but it doesn't work.
If I follow the procedure you mention (which is also exactly what the manual
says), the tuplet tool lets me enter 5 notes (the first one included),
Could someone please explain to me how I can put 6 quarter notes in a 4/4
measure? I looked it up and thought I knew how to do it, but I am doing
something wrong and I end up with things I do not want.
Sorry about this, but I am stuck. Best and thank you, Will
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Hello. I am having another problem. It really bugs me. I am writing in 4/4. In
one measure I want 6 quarter notes to fill the measure. So, I type the first
note and then I click on the tuplet tool. When the window opens, I type that I
want 6 quarter notes in the space of 4 quarter notes. I click
Hello,
I have a problem. I want the time signature to be 2+3+2/8. Is there a way I can
write this in Finale? A possibility would be to write 7/8 and to divide the
first measure with dotted lines, but I do not know how to do this either - and
I didn't find it in the manual. Best regards, Will
S
I am convinced that the Galant style was a very rhetorical style,
much like the French Baroque, where you have to get the gestures and
nuance right or it just sounds terrible. It takes a lot of style to
get the music off the page ...
I played a lot of the Mozart sonatas when I was young. I have
The problem with pre-classical and early classical music is quite
> complex. There are very good reasons why we find a lot of that music
> boring today. It is true I have done some music from that period, but
> I very carefully selected it, and I am carefully trying to avoid the
> boring music whi
Dear David,
Forget it. No harm done. What you said was completely fair, I should read the
manua (and I am). I didn't know anything about the piracy problem and that
makes complete sense too. With best regards, Will
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'I must compliment the folks on this list for their kind and caring
attitude, and willingness to help others. What started as a mild
annoyance at someone asking seemingly "simple" questions
might have turned into an ugly "flame" on another list. Instead,
it was treated gently, with patience an
'Rather than beginning a message with an almost boastful "Yes, David,
you are right. But I'm doing my best." in response to David Fenton's
questioning of whether Will has worked through the tutorials. It
doesn't really seem that Will is doing his best ...'
Hello David, I understand what you a
Doesn't doubleclicking the measure tool add a new measure in Simple,
just as it does in Speedy?
Is this another case where Will has not worked through the tutorials?
Yes, David, you are right. But I am doing my best. On the other hand, my wife
and daughter are on holidays, so everything is ver
I guess this is really stupid, but I do not find the solution myself. I am
writing one of my slow pieces and after a couple of days I got to measure 32.
Whatever I do, I am not able to make more measures (bars). Coud someone please
help me? I am working with simple entry on Windows. Thank you in
Hello All,
I wrote something a couple of weeks ago. I opened the file (.MUS) a couple of
days ago and all was fine. I cannot open it anymore. When I try to open the
file, finale takes a long time and finally gives the message: Data error: C
(etc. location). Cyclic redundancy check. Does anyone
Hello All,
I received the Hawkes Pocket Score from Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra which I
bought at Amazon. The score looks fine but the print is so small that I can
hardly read it. This is probably not going to work, but I was thinking that it
should be possible to scan it into Finale - or ju
more soon.
For the rest, I finally managed to open the Manual (after three months!). I
didn't download Adobe 8. I do not know what was wrong with it, or indeed,
whether it will still open tomorrow. I am a musician, I do not know anything
about computers.
Best regards and wishe
Just to see, I went to the GPO site and copied Darcy's manual, which is in PDF.
This manual opened immediately without any ado whatsoever. So, there is nothing
wrong with my Adobe Reader.
I do not understand this.
Best, Will
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With respect to opening the manual for Finale, you wrote earlier that
you converted the ~.pdf files to ~.rtf format. Based upon that
statement, if it were me, here's what I'd do.
Hello Noel,
Thank you very much for your help. I tried to do today what you were saying. I
did everything right
"the piece i am working on has
massive microtonal glissandi, often arou dthe same pitches, so it
would be (would have been) good for a C-score to better visualize
this."
Just being curious, if you write microtones, does Finale play them back?
Is there a way to 'wrongly' tune an instrument, sa
Hello Aaron,
What can I do to finally open this manual? Why doesn't it work? Do you have any
ideas? Best, Will
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Nothing? Doesn't the right side change to the appropriate Table of
Contents for the chapter you clicked on? If not, then you should try
downloading and reinstalling Adobe Reader, per my last post.
>When I click on 'See next chapter' at the right hand of the screen,
it
>gives me the index of
When I saw this message, I remembered that Chuck and someone else were talking
about saxes and buying JABB. Maybe this is of some help:
I bought the full versions of GPO and JABB for Finale 2006 and 2007, but for
the past year, I've only been using the program for notation.
So, I've listed JAB
"What doesn't open -- Adobe or the Finale Manual?"
Dear Aaron and Christopher,
I dunno.
I try to open the manual by clicking on the book button (or going to Help, it
is the same). On the right, you can then see what I assume is the first page of
the manual, while on the left, you
It's one of the Smart Shapes. Enter your starting note and your ending
note and the use the smart shape tool and select the squiggly diagonal
line, if you just want the line.
Hello,
I found the squiggly diagonal line a while ago through my own efforts (i.e.
without the manual), bu
I haven't seen this mentioned, but Garritan is having a group buy this
year. Great way to get the full version of GPO, Jazz Band, and/or the
Strat Violin libraries.
https://amerifare.cybrhost.com/harps/GroupBuyForm-122006.php
I would be interested in buying a full orchestra version of GPO for
With all due respect, Will, now that you've found the manual, why not
just look up 'Glissandos' in the Index?
Because I still can't open the freaking thing.
I have Adobe Reader, but it doesn't open, so I converted 43 files or so into
rtf (I think) and now I have 43 copies of the index.
God tha
Aaron, thanks a lot for you explanation, now it all makes sense.
I found the manual and promise to read it. Would someone be willing to explain
to me how I can notate glissandi? With best regards, Will
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Hello Christopher, Noel, David,
When I press alt G (which is indeed the right command for a grace note in
easy entry), something really bizarre happens. This is what I did. I created
one staff in 4/4 and notated 4 quarter notes for the first measure, so this
measure is full. I wanted t
> I was going to suggest that you read the user manual, but it is
> horrible in indexing grace notes and simple entry, so I can't even in
> good conscience tell you to read the manual.
Does Finale no longer include the excellent tutorials? It would seem
that either it does not, or Will has not w
"I am always impressed with the decency of the members, and the concern
they show in their attempts to solve other people's problems. Many thanks to
all of you who have submitted suggestions."
Well, absolutely. I find this very impressive. Thanks to all, Will
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Hello Noel, Christopher,
Hitting the ";" does not do anything. I am working in easy entry - can you
still help me?
Thank you and with best regards,
Will
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Will,
Let us know what system (Win, Mac) and version you are on, as the
answer changes according to these criteria.
Christopher, I am using Windows XP and Finale 2007. Best regards to all, Will
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Raymond, thanks for your story. Stimmen is a symphony in 12 parts. Here too
there is a lot of difference in the quality of the individual parts. Some,
though really the minority, are really good in my humble opinion, and there are
some which I find mediocre and some which are terrible. I didn't
Aaron, thank you very much, you are a big help. These little things help me so
much. I really appreciate.
Raymond, no. The symphony I am talking about is Stimmen ... Verstummen on
Chandos with the Royal Stockholm Philharmonic. It also contains Stufen. I
listened to it again for several times la
Dear All,
Thank you very much for helping me out. I will buy more memory if possible, we
will see on Saturday. I copied the music I was talking about to a new document
for 3 violins and 2 celli (instead of sections) and now it plays back normally.
I do have another question: if you open the exp
Hello,
I looked up the specifications of my computer (which is a notebook). Here they
are:
Toshiba
Intel R Celeron R M
processor 1.40 GHz
1.39 GHz, 448 MB of RAM
Microsoft Windows XP, Home Edition, version 2002.
This piece of music which does not play back normally is very short, only 16
meas
Dear All, I have a problem again. I wrote some music for strings in five parts.
After that I did something else. When I later reopened the file, I could not
get the program to play it back to me in an acceptable way anymore: the strings
do not sound like strings, it sounds more like a demented m
Hello Johannes and John,
Great explanation. I never heard about it before, very interesting.
There seems to be a chess program which can also notate music - take a look at
www.chessbase.com. I didn't read it yet, I had no time, but it looks
interesting.
Best regards, Will
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Bach, for example, never wrote transposing
instrumental parts, but did use different clefs for high, medium and
low instruments.
(Yes, i know about his brass parts, and about chorton and kammerton,
but please don't complicate things at this point!)
Hi John, I am only curious, what are chorton
"Maybe I would use GPO more if it wouldn't take so long to open the
Finale files using it. I want to drink coffee when I want to, not
just because I'm waiting until the sounds are loaded. And be honest -
they are better than smart sound, but they are not good."
I think these GPO sounds are pre
OK, Thank you David and others, I will save my work on different media; the
memory stick will do for now (but next year I am going to write a Piece :-)).
Excuse me for asking, but can someone tell me how I can delete expressions and
hairpins? Chuck, sorry for not coming back to you. It was very
"Phil, This cannot be the case. The computer I am using is less than 3
months old. Thank you for the valuable feed-back from everyone."
Really. Ok. You are the expert. Hope you have a back up.
I'd take Phil's advise. Get a new drive, copy everything off the old
one, then take your receipt and
"CRC errors are the beginning sign of a failing hard drive.
1..You can run a disk repair tool, and if you haven't done much saving
since the error, they can recover bad disk sectors.
2.. Buy a new hard drive immediately.
Phil Daley < AutoDesk >"
Phil, This cannot be the case. The com
Hello All,
I would like to ask two things.
First, something happened which really scares me. I wrote a little exercise
some days ago. When I tried to open it this morning, I got the following
message:
' C:/Documents and Settings/Will/Desktop/MUS/ex21.MUS appears to be corrput;
attempting to c
he mp3's, among others of pieces which had won
a composition competition and I really didn't like any of these at all. With
best regards, Will Denayer
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omposition. Technically it's
all perfectly written, but by god, this is boring stuff!
Respectfully, Will Denayer
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> Aaron, Phil, The file I downloaded is in pdf.
> Best regards, Will
While there is a tool for reading scans and changing them into Finale
notation, there are many errors and it is very fussy to do so. The
easiest way is for you to enter it into Finale in the usual way by
hand.
Even impor
Aaron, Phil, The file I downloaded is in pdf.
Best regards, Will
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Hello All,
First, Thank you Nick, indeed the articulation tool did not work because I was
in the wrong layer ...
Second, suppose I have a score that I downloaded from the net - say a partita
of Bach - and I want to import the score into Finale, so that I can look at the
notes when the progamme
Hello David, Noel, Thank you very much for your answers - they are much
appreciated. About the trumpet in C: I am sure I wouldn't hear the difference
and I didn't want to imply I would. It's also not that terribly important
because trumpet players can transpose while playing, but I was thinking
Dear all, I am still figuring out Finale 2007 and I have some questions.
Reading your posts, I do not think that you people realise how advanced you
are, so, if anyone wants to answer me, please go very slow and do not assume I
know a lot about computers, because I don't.
1) I saw that the GPO
Hello, I downloaded Note Pad a while ago and had no problem with it whatsoever. I think it works fine. There's no reason to not give it a try, in my opinion (as long as it doesn't give you the idea that Finale is easy). As for bekakte, let me please add a final comment to this. It means full of sh
Hi all, Just for what it is worth, the most precise translation of bekakt(e) is 'full of shit', but it actually means pretentious, noisy without content, little bourgeois-like (which has always been an insult in Yiddish). Still trying to figure out Finale, but doing well in languages ... Best, Will
Hello All, Finale 2007 comes with a link to Native Instruments. You need to subscribe before you can use it. They ask for your address and telephone number and so on and so, because I did not know, what I was subscribing to, I didn't do it yet. What is NI about? For the rest, I have still so many q
Hello All, Sorry for being tiresome, but I still have problems with speedy entry: 1) suppose I want to add other voices, how do I do this? Whatever I do, the thing stays in V1; 2) there is something I do not like in Speedy: if I have been typing, say, quarter notes and the last note was an F an
Thanks guys! Speed entry is going very well - my Use Midi device for input was not off (I knew it had to be off, but I unchecked Midi thru, which is something else). It works like cake now (if this is an English _expression_). How can I write harmonics for violin? How can I write a quarter E fo
Hello Dennis, Chuck, David, Noel and others, Thank you for all the good advice. I said earlier that I unable to use the speed entry tool. Someone told me to put Midi off, as otherwise I would only be able to enter rests. Actually, I couldn't enter anything (notes nor rests). Following this adv
Hello All, Thank you all very much. Someone said that I could just dragging the BAK-icon to the Finale-icon, and indeed, this works. I still have no clue as to why Finale saves some files as MUS and other as BAK, but I guess it is not a problem. As for the rest, I can type in notes, changes keys, c
Thank you everyone, Now it makes sense again. However, I do not seem to be able to open a BAK.file (I can't find it inside Finale and when I click on the icon, Windows says that it cannot open the document but that it can look up the program on the net. When I click OK, nothing happens). It's jus
. The third time, the program crashed. I had to reboot. My third exercise is now saved as (name).BAK. I do not know what BAK stands for, but this really bothers me. What should I do? Thank you for reading and with best regards, Dr. Will Denayer - composer,
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