Re: [Wikitech-l] Using "," as decimal separator in #expr

On 6/14/15, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > I'm using the #expr parser function provided by the Parser Functions > extension. I'd like it to use "," as decimal separator, and it currently > uses ".". Is there a way to change this nicer than installing String > Functions and doing a replace? > > C

Re: [Wikitech-l] Implementing features for the sake of implementing features

On 6/17/15, Eran Rosenthal wrote: > Sometimes programmers waste their time for implementing > non-useful/non-important features, but sometimes such features aren't just > not useful, but harmful.[1; you are more than welcome to convince me > otherwise] > > Both developers, designers and project ma

Re: [Wikitech-l] Plan for a Developer Relations team

On Jun 29, 2015 3:01 PM, "Quim Gil" wrote: > > Hi, the Engineering Community team is working on a plan to evolve onto a > Developer Relations team. This is not just a change of name. See > > * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering_Community_Team/Developer_Relations_team > < https://www.mediaw

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki needs a governance model

On 7/1/15, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > I just posted this at http://mwstake.org/mwstake/wiki/Blog_Post:18 and I > would like to invite your comments. > > = MediaWiki needs a governance model = > Eighteen months ago, at the > [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_Summit_2014 MediaWiki > A

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data and Developer Hub protoype

On 6/25/15, S Page wrote: > http://devhub.wmflabs.org is a prototype of the "Data and developer hub", a > portal and set of articles and links whose goal is to encourage third-party > developers to use Wikimedia data and APIs. Check it out, your feedback is > welcome! You can comment on the talk p

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data and Developer Hub protoype

On 7/6/15, S Page wrote: > On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> First of all, the links at the beginning, should not go directly to >> the projects in question, they should go to pages explaining how to >> use those projects in question on the outsid

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikimediaMobile] Cross-Post: Editing + Reading Meeting Notes

> If it wouldn't be a distraction from other priorities, I'm wondering if > project management could be the subject of a Tech Talk sometime. (Cc'ing > Rachel who I believe coordinates Tech Talks.) > > Thanks, > > Pine > You mean like "Kanban: An alternative to Scrum?" https://www.youtube.com/watch

Re: [Wikitech-l] [recommended reading] do terrible things to your code

1. You can always assume that all your input is magically converted to UTF-8 NFC (Not if you're running from a maintenance script) 2. You can do things like call the API (internally) to edit a page when a method from $wgParser->parse() is on the stack (Well you can, but the page you're parsing is g

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/7/15, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > On 08/07/2015 11:43 AM, Oliver Keyes wrote: >> Thank you for drafting this up, Matt. Who's "we" here? > > In that case, "we" meant the Wikimedia technical community (in > collaboration with other related groups at WMF). Several people have > already participat

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/10/15, Matthew Flaschen wrote: > On 08/10/2015 07:10 PM, MZMcBride wrote: >> I'm not really sure what you're talking about here. We already have: > > As you know, none of those are binding policies that apply to all > Wikimedia technical spaces. > >> * https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fri

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

On 8/12/15, MZMcBride wrote: > Tim Starling wrote: >>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331 >> >>Running the output of the MediaWiki parser through HTML Tidy always >>seemed like a nasty hack. The effects on wikitext syntax are arbitrary >>and change from version to version. When we upgrade our

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Replace Tidy with HTML 5 parse/reserialize

On Saturday, August 15, 2015, MZMcBride wrote: > Robert Rohde wrote: >>Some years back I was importing a large number of complex templates to a >>wiki that didn't have tidy enabled. The results were nothing short of >>horrendous in a substantial number of cases. Wiki authors will generally >>sto

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

On Tuesday, August 18, 2015, Pine W wrote: > what's happening with regard to improving usability for humans and > increasing the difficulty for bots? Generally speaking, isnt that an open problem in computer science? -- Bawolff ___ Wikitech-l mailing l

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

> brion, > civility _is_ enforced already today by the terms of use, nothing new > necessary. It really isn't except for extreme cases. There's a difference between a policy enforced from above saying you're not allowed to do various things, most of which would probably land you in jail, and a wid

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/22/15, Tyler Romeo wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> For example, MediaWiki is intentionally GPLv2, not GPLv3. > > > MediaWiki is not intentionally GPLv2. It merely is v2 now and the community > cannot come to a consensus on wheth

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/22/15, Risker wrote: > David, thanks for this find. > > THIS is why the Code of Conduct is needed. I recognized myself in this > blog. I remembered avoiding any aspect of socialization at conferences I > had to attend for work, and simply didn't even consider attending > conferences for any

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/23/15, Oliver Keyes wrote: > Admins? And who are those? Please build a listing of every admin for > every possible technical venue relating to Wikimedia. > > While you're at it, we're going to need them to have a shared hivemind > so enforcement is consistent between venues. They're also goin

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

e, searching for "Why should code of conducts not be enforced by admins" and "Why should code of conducts not be enforced by large bodies" which are the most obvious query for Steinsplitter's question, come up with nothing. But even if they did come up with something relaven

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/24/15, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi, > > I remembered how readily "the guys" assumed that any woman there was there >> for more than just networking and learning. I remembered having my butt >> pinched, my breasts "accidentally touched", my questions ignored or >> laughed >> at. I remember how th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Improving CAPTCHA friendliness for humans, and increasing CAPTCHA difficulty for bots

On 8/25/15, Dan Garry wrote: > On 19 August 2015 at 23:06, Matthew Flaschen > wrote: >> >> I agree this is an important issue. It just isn't resourced right now by >> the WMF, as far as I know. >> > > Indeed. There have been numerous discussions about the captcha on this > mailing list over the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Code of conduct

On 8/26/15, Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 23/08/2015 01:09, Brian Wolff a écrit : >> On 8/22/15, Tyler Romeo wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: >>> >>>> For example, MediaWiki is intentionally GPLv2, not GPLv3. >>> >>

Re: [Wikitech-l] Saving MediaWiki:common.js

Did you check your php error log (And make sure that php error logging, particularly of fatal errors is enabled). Check also your web server error log (if php segfaults or something, it would show up there) -- -bawolff On 8/26/15, Legault, Phillip [ITSUS] wrote: > Yes it is a private site > > I

Re: [Wikitech-l] renaming Wikimedia domains

On 8/26/15, Jaime Crespo wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Alex Monk wrote: > >> I'm not sure why database changes would be involved in a domain-only >> change? It should be simple enough to get the new domain set up in DNS and >> apache config, tell multiversion how to map it to the old

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

> To better address the needs of our core contributors, we're now focusing > our strategy on the curation, collaboration, and admin processes that take > place on a variety of pages. Many of these processes use complex > workarounds -- templates, categories, transclusions, and lots of > instruction

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

>> >> >> This sounds a lot like PageTriage, which at best was a mixed success. >> I hope the team is able to extract lessons from that extension and >> apply them to whatever they intend to work on. >> > > "at best was a mixed success" speaking as someone who has used it > extensively, that is not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 9/3/15, Brian Wolff wrote: >>> >>> >>> This sounds a lot like PageTriage, which at best was a mixed success. >>> I hope the team is able to extract lessons from that extension and >>> apply them to whatever they intend to work on. >>> >&

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

On 9/4/15, Pine W wrote: > Re-reading the original email, it sounds to me like Flow is being put into > maintenance mode, not killed. It also sounds to me like the resources that > were being invested in Flow are going to be redirected to "the curation, > collaboration, and admin processes that ta

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration team reprioritization

I don't think putting a $$ value on it is necessary to answer David's question (Or even sufficient from a user perspective). The core of it is: *Will anyone (from WMF) be coding any new features, that don't exist yet. *Will features that half work or are currently in the process of being developed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

On 9/5/15, MZMcBride wrote: > Oliver Keyes wrote: >>On the general subject of codes of conduct and what they bring (or >>don't bring) in terms of user safety and a sense of inclusion, I >>recently encountered http://wp.me/p11Aax-4aq on Twitter - it's an >>interesting read and brings up a couple of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

On 9/5/15, rupert THURNER wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Flaschen > wrote: > >> There is consensus at >> >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Next_steps >> that the best way to finalize the CoC draft is to focus on a few >> sections

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of Conduct: Intro, Principles, and Unacceptable behavior sections

> the mails sent here the last week made me think more thorough about what > the actual problem is, and reconsider my posiiton. i added comments to the > phabricator ticket at: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T90908#1612033. > > to summarize the phabricator comments briefly, i experienced the wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] thumb generation

On 9/12/15, wp mirror wrote: > 0) Context > > I am currently developing new features for WP-MIRROR (see < > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wp-mirror>). > > 1) Objective > > I would like WP-MIRROR to generate all image thumbs during the mirror build > process. This is so that mediawiki can render p

Re: [Wikitech-l] Idea: Cryptographically signed wiki pages.

On 9/13/15, Purodha Blissenbach wrote: > In a discussion in the German Pirate Party the idea came up that we > might want to have cryptographically signed wiki pages. > I could not find that this has been implemented already anyhow. > > Thus, can we develop an extsion which provides cryptographica

Re: [Wikitech-l] Idea: Cryptographically signed wiki pages.

Not to mention images, dynamic parser extensions that do not functionally depend on their input, changes to site javascript, etc. On 9/14/15, John Erling Blad wrote: > You will run into problems with transclusions > http://www.w3.org/standards/techs/xmlsig#w3c_all > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:54

Re: [Wikitech-l] The "other" developers at the Wikimedia Developer Summit

> > We want to increase their participation bringing their own proposals and > joining others' as stakeholders, I suppose I'm kind of confused by the scope. We want template creators to propose RFCs for architecture changes in MediaWiki? -- -bawolff __

Re: [Wikitech-l] The "other" developers at the Wikimedia Developer Summit

> > I think this is the key point. Remember that this is the "developer summit" > and > not an "architecture summit", and as such anything MediaWiki-related is up > for > grabs. And if the topic of templates comes up, specifically what we need to > fix > in templates or what new features we should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Link: useful article on in-person events

On 9/16/15, Frances Hocutt wrote: > An excellent article on best practices and pitfalls for in-person technical > events: https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/software-in-person > > This has some ideas and framings that can be useful for planning for the > upcoming developer summit. > > -Frances >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Super-charging Mobile: An experiment with ServiceWorkers in MediaWiki

> > The biggest issue we have on the mobile site right now is we ship a > lot of content - HTML and images - since we ship those on desktop. On > desktop it's not really a problem from a performance perspective but > it may be an issue from a download perspective if you have some kind > of data lim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea " Extension: Offline MediaWiki "

On 9/22/15, adisha porwal wrote: > Greeting, > I want to contribute to wikimedia and for that Outreachy > intership program looks perfect fit for > me. > > For participating in outreachy internship, I need a project idea that I > will be working on during my inte

Re: [Wikitech-l] Project Idea " Extension: Offline MediaWiki "

allenge_1:_Syncing_wikis_-_.E2.80.9CGitify_MW.E2.80.9D > [3] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100154 > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> On 9/22/15, adisha porwal wrote: >> > Greeting, >> > I want to contribute to wikimedia and f

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help needed with reading strategy process

> > In our own exercise, we identified one problem that manifests itself across > different indicators is our core system's lack of optimization for emerging > platforms, experiences, and communities. > What does that even mean? What's an emerging platform? Hardware platform (e.g. Do you mean mob

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do you run mediawiki on shared hosting? Tell us about it

On 9/23/15, Gilles Dubuc wrote: > I've created this task on the topic of shared hosting: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113210 as a proposal for the upcoming > Wikimedia Developer Summit. > > If anyone on this list is currently running mediawiki on a shared hosting > platform, I would really

Re: [Wikitech-l] svn/git backends (was: Re: Project Idea " Extension: Offline MediaWiki ")

On 9/25/15, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Purodha Blissenbach > wrote: >> There has been a project in the past that converted a MediaWiki code base >> from SQL to use svn or git as message store. I do not remember which. It >> worked afaicr but was discontinued as no

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mentors and projects needed for Outreachy round 11

WMF is made up of individuals. If there's something that you think should be done, why not figure out which team it would normally fall under, and politely suggest it to the people on the team that they should make it a priority (If it doesn't fall under any team - lets be realistic, it probably wo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mentors and projects needed for Outreachy round 11

On 9/28/15, Frances Hocutt wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> That said, gsoc/opw usually doesn't reflect Wikimedia community >> priorities all that much (imo). >> > > Do you have any thoughts on why that might be? As I'm o

Re: [Wikitech-l] Port mw-vagrant to Raspberry Pi ( arm )

On 9/29/15, Tony Thomas <01tonytho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I was looking at some statistics of school students ( < 17 years ) > participation from my state in Open Source program like Google Code In, > and it is ~0. The Government here has initiated a project to distribute > Raspberry Pi

Re: [Wikitech-l] [RFC] Hygienic templates

> > That was intentional; the wording in > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Process suggested that > email conversation should be pursued orthogonally to discussion on the Phab > ticket. The phab task links to the email discussion archives, so nothing's > going to be lost. > > I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [MediaWiki-l] An "advanced search" page for CirrusSearch?

I once tried doing something like that in js. But for the use case I was trying to do, it was very limited by a bug in Cirrus where you can't OR operators with incategory:. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?withJS=MediaWiki:Gadget-advanced-search.js See also https://phabricator.wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical expertise needed for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

On 10/6/15, Chris Schilling wrote: > Hey folks, > > Applicants for the current round of Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) have > submitted many proposals that involve new tools, bot tasks, and other > technical elements. I’ve provided the list of these proposals and brief > descriptions below. >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Technical expertise needed for Individual Engagement Grant proposals!

find that good-faith comments > help me to improve my proposal. > > Thanks for your interest in IEG! > > Pine > On Oct 6, 2015 8:05 PM, "Brian Wolff" wrote: > >> On 10/6/15, Chris Schilling wrote: >> > Hey folks, >> > >> > Applica

Re: [Wikitech-l] XSS warning for an image download

On 10/24/15, Pine W wrote: > When I right-click on the image download link for > File:Commodore_Grace_M._Hopper,_USN_(covered).jpg the download I get is > only 269 bytes and it contains a 404 error in plaintext even though it's a > jpg file. > > When I click on the image preview that's 480x600 pix

Re: [Wikitech-l] XSS warning for an image download

d URL: [ > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Commodore_Grace_M._Hopper,_USN_%20covered%20.jpg#36059408556548644467 > ]. > [NoScript HTTPS] AUTOMATIC SECURE on https://upload.wikimedia.org: > WMF-Last-Access=25-Oct-2015; domain=upload.wikimedia.org; path=/; HttpOnly; > Secure > Typ

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia is down

> > And again these are systems issues. I agree that MediaWiki is a complex > system. But one would think, given the significant focus on data > collection, any acceptance testing before a significant infrastructure > change would include a review to ensure that it will not impact data > collectio

Re: [Wikitech-l] Short license blocks

On 10/27/15, Antoine Musso wrote: > Le 27/10/2015 10:44, Gergo Tisza a écrit : >> In a recent blog post ( http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6867 ) ESR writes: >> >> High on my list of Things That Annoy Me When I Hack is sourcefiles that >>> contain huge blobs of license text at the top. That is valuable t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Random rant

On 10/27/15, Ricordisamoa wrote: > ALL of my OAuth applications expired without anyone noticing. Whom am I > supposed to lobby to get one approved? > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Random rant

On 10/28/15, MZMcBride wrote: > Ricordisamoa wrote: >>ALL of my OAuth applications expired without anyone noticing. Whom am I >>supposed to lobby to get one approved? > > Hi. > > This rant doesn't seem very random. :-) > > This sounds like (you're > alrea

[Wikitech-l] Reserving data-mw- attribute prefix in the sanitizer as non-user specifiable

Occasionally its useful to pass trusted data to javascript using data attributes on elements that you know is not from the user. In the past, there has been security issues from using the data attribute for information that is assumed to be trusted, but in reality could be messed with by the user.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Forking, branching, merging, and drafts on Wikipedia

On 11/6/15, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > There is a proposal for the upcoming Mediawiki Dev Summit to get us > "unstuck" on support for non-linear revision histories in Wikipedia. This > would include support for "saved drafts" of wikipedia edits and offline > editing support, as well as a more perm

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: make Parser::getTargetLanguage aware of multilingual wikis

On 11/10/15, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > This in general reminds me of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T4085. > > Also, if page content can vary based on user language, what to do about bug > reports that Special:WhatLinksHere, category listings, file usage data at > the bottom of file descrip

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: make Parser::getTargetLanguage aware of multilingual wikis

On 11/10/15, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> On 11/10/15, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: >> > Also, if page content can vary based on user language, what to do about >> bug >> > reports that Special:WhatLink

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Update about on-going work on Notifications, especially cross-wiki notifications

On Sunday, November 15, 2015, Pine W wrote: > The discussion about Flothat I referened is currently happening on Lila's > talk page on Meta. Would you like to join the conversation there? The > discussion there might get more staff attention than Wikimedia-l. (I hear a > number of staff avoid Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the previous=yes parameter?

What did you do to get to a page that had that parameter? Parameters can come from anywhere, so its hard to say. But I would say most likely its from javascript (either common.js or gadget) [OTOH: searching for insource:previous doesn't give me anything]. Most of the time, MediaWiki would convert

Re: [Wikitech-l] Contributing to Wikimedia Foundation

The bug references ORACLE, so its probably maintenance/oracle/tables.sql --bawolff On 11/16/15, Bill Morrisson wrote: > Thanks to Andre and Johan for the welcoming message and the tips to start > out in the wikimedia community. > I have been taking my time to look at the different links Andre po

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Fwd: Deploy freeze(s) in effect for the next 7 weeks (ish, read for more details)

>> FTR: "High Priority" means security and data loss, really. There may be >> other exceptions but they need pre-approval from at least myself and >> sometimes Katie. Thanks for keeping us informed. I'm excited to hear that Katie will be "running Wikimedia" over the holiday season. -- -bawolff _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Peer-to-peer sharing of the content of Wikipedia through WebRTC

On 11/28/15, Yeongjin Jang wrote: > > Hi, > > I am Yeongjin Jang, a Ph.D. Student at Georgia Tech. > > In our lab (SSLab, https://sslab.gtisc.gatech.edu/), > we are working on a project called B2BWiki, > which enables users to share the contents of Wikipedia through WebRTC > (peer-to-peer sharing)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vision for Wikipedia

On 11/26/15, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > I would like to share my vision for Wikipedia's future, as well as some > steps that could help us get there. I hope you find it useful. Please share > your feedback and ideas. > > Vision: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik/I_Dream_of_Content > Implemen

Re: [Wikitech-l] Peer-to-peer sharing of the content of Wikipedia through WebRTC

On Saturday, November 28, 2015, Yeongjin Jang wrote: > Thank you for your comments! > > > On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> On 11/28/15, Yeongjin Jang wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I am Yeongjin Jang, a Ph.D. St

Re: [Wikitech-l] Peer-to-peer sharing of the content of Wikipedia through WebRTC

On 11/30/15, Purodha Blissenbach wrote: > On 30.11.2015 20:47, Ryan Lane wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Yeongjin Jang >> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I recall that I saw financial statement of WMF that states around >>> $2.3M >>> was spent for Internet Hosting. I am not sure whether it includ

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is there some non-ssl mirror of wikipedia?

On Sunday, December 6, 2015, Petr Bena wrote: > I noticed that since we enforce SSL on Wikipedia for everyone, > Wikipedia is much more restricted in some countries, such as China, > where it's entirely blocked (I think only SSL is blocked, but users > now have no option to fall back to non-ssl ve

Re: [Wikitech-l] Ideas for tech-related IdeaLab Campaigns?

On 12/7/15, Chris Schilling wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I've recently initiated a consultation to help decide on topics for IdeaLab > campaigns for the future, and I'm very interested in your input on what > technical issues, gaps, or general features we could consider focusing our > attention upon

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki message delivery problems

On 12/11/15, Bináris wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know who is in charge of this utility but perhaps some of you know > a short way. > > Recently Mediawiki message delivery left a message on village pump of > Hungarian Wikipedia without undersigning. The message wasn't archived for a > long time until

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Usage Report 2015

On Monday, December 14, 2015, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > > The MediaWiki Stakeholders' User Group wants to improve MediaWiki and advocates the needs of MediaWiki users outside Wikimedia Foundation-supported projects. > > > > > But who is using MediaWiki? In an effort to answer this question th

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Usage Report 2015

On Monday, December 14, 2015, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > > TL;DR: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Usage_Report_2015 > > The MediaWiki Stakeholders User Group[1] wants to improve MediaWiki and > advocates the needs of MediaWiki users outside Wikimedia > Foundation-supported projects. > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] IRC office hours: Shared hosting

On 12/20/15, James Salsman wrote: > Were there any objections to my request below? > Yes. As MaxSem said earlier[1], its basically being ignored as being totally irrelevant to the topic at hand. (To be clear: Third-party does not mean people who are doing work on Wikimedia sites that aren't WMF.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

I dont speak for the comunity tech team - but im pretty sure they would love any and all help (as would pretty much any foundation team). It is probably a good idea to check in with the team and tell them what you are planning to work on in order to make sure you arent duplicating any work --bawol

Re: [Wikitech-l] Community Wishlist Survey: Top 10 wishes!

On Saturday, January 9, 2016, Rob Lanphier wrote: > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Bill Morrisson > wrote: >> I wish to ask if volunteer developers can participate in one of the top 10 >> wishes of the community wishlist or can only start working on those wishes >> that are at the rest of the l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

Without actually trying this, I dont think anyone should be surprised that loading an HD video on 2g mobile is going to suck and that a site that dynamically adapts the video to your bandwidth constraints is going to be much better. Even with a super fast internet, the youtube video will still be b

Re: [Wikitech-l] Video: Loading Barack Obama on 2G from Spain on a Nexus 5

My apologies. I guess I read the original email too fast. On Tuesday, January 12, 2016, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote: > Brian, you seem off. Do you know that we are talking about loading the > Obama page, right? > > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Accuracy review on tool labs?

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016, James Salsman wrote: > John, > > Are you sure it makes sense to run accuracy review on wikimedia servers? > > Best regards, > Jim > ___ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikitech-l] meta: AbuseFilter on mediawiki.org and related sites

> One of them filtered out the whole Russian alphabet, so the extension > couldn't be tested by Russian-speaking users. Another one didn't allow > submitting Flow posts that don't have a sufficient amount of English words > from users who have less than 6 edits, so users who have a lot of edits in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data visualization for wiki

There is some work towards in browser image editing (see https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/multimedia/2015-December/001219.html) but im not sure what the status of that is. In the past there was also some work around Extension:SVGEdit, but that seems to have died Gamification at commons may b

Re: [Wikitech-l] Deployment of GeoGebra MediaWiki Extension

On Friday, February 26, 2016, Rudolf Großmann wrote: > The GeoGebra MediaWiki Extension was published at mediawiki.org [1] in > 2008. It allows to embed dynamic geometry applets into MediaWiki pages. > > The extension was refined year by year. In 2015, Zbynek Konecný, member > of the GeoGebra team

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to find pages using the Score extension?

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016, Daniel Mietchen wrote: > Hi, > > I want to get an idea how many times the Score extension is invoked > but could find no way to go about that, nor to get a list of pages > using or variants thereof on a per-wiki or per-category basis. > > Any pointers? > > Thanks, > d.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Diff algorithms: the shootout

On Friday, April 15, 2016, MZMcBride wrote: > Max Semenik wrote: >>Right now, MediaWiki has 2 pure-PHP engines to produce diffs (there's also >>a native PHP extension wikidiff2, but we're not discussing it right now): >>* DairikiDiff is what everybody uses, and >>* Wikidiff3, and alternative imple

[Wikitech-l] Getting rid of $wgWellFormedXml = false;

So currently, we have two ways of outputting html - $wgWellFormedXml = true (The default), outputs html that happens to conform with the rules of XML. $wgWellFormedXml = false on the other hand, uses more lax html5 rules to save a few bytes. Having two modes of output, feels rather silly to me. Or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting rid of $wgWellFormedXml = false;

> > The only benefit of $wgWellFormedXml was that you could toss your > "well-formed" tag soup into an XML parser that didn't grok HTML. I have no > idea if that worked reliably or was actually useful to anyone, but it's > probably worth confirming that before actually removing the funky > self-clo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting rid of $wgWellFormedXml = false;

On Monday, May 2, 2016, Max Semenik wrote: > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >> > At this point, I would say that everybody who screen-scrapes saw it coming > and breaking them is a good thing as sometimes, lessons just have to be > learned. > Per

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code Review Request (less than 50 lines of documented beginner code) for MOOC Extension

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016, René Pickhardt wrote: > Hey everyone, > > since we have introduced ourselves, we have been quite busy reading > documentation and source code (of existing extensions) trying to understand > the dataflow within Mediawiki. > > Today we have committed our first code that d

Re: [Wikitech-l] Getting rid of $wgWellFormedXml = false;

On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Strainu wrote: > 2016-05-14 4:07 GMT+03:00 Legoktm : >> Hi, >> >> On 05/02/2016 11:42 AM, Brian Wolff wrote: >>> See gerrit patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/286495 I would >>> appreciate everyone's feedback. >> >

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'd love to contribue. Can anyone help me get started?

On Wednesday, May 18, 2016, Ty Landercasper wrote: > I'm a self employed programmer who's taking a bit of time off from his > current project as a way to gain some fresh perspective and I thought I'd > use that free time to help out a community I really appreciate. Wikipedia is > one of th

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Add Content-Security-Policy header to MediaWiki

So the RFC process page says I should email wikitech-l to propose an RFC, thus: Content-Security-Policy (CSP) header is a header that disables certain javascript features that are commonly used to exploit XSS attacks, in order to mitigate the risks of XSS. I think we could massively benefit from u

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Add Content-Security-Policy header to MediaWiki

On Monday, May 23, 2016, Tyler Romeo wrote: > First, as I expected, this proposal is to use CSP wit the "unsafe-eval" > option enabled for both style-src and script-src. This means the JavaScript > eval() function can be used freely, and inline CSS via the style attribute > can still be used. Comb

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Add Content-Security-Policy header to MediaWiki

On Monday, May 23, 2016, Pine W wrote: > With the disclaimer that I'm not a security engineer and that I understand > only parts of this proposal, in general this strikes me as a good idea. It > seems to me that trying to develop a comprehensive list of what tools / > scripts this proposal would l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Upgrading HHVM to libicu52

It should be clarified, that only wikis that have icu collation enabled will have the out of order issue. At the moment that is only a handful (i think around 20). -- Bawolff On Wednesday, May 25, 2016, Giuseppe Lavagetto wrote: > Hi all, > > tomorrow, Thursday May 25th, I will be upgrading our

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should we switch the default category collation to uca-default?

On Friday, May 27, 2016, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > There are currently 94 WMF wikis using UCA category collation rather than > the default "uppercase" collation. The Unicode Collation Algorithm (UCA) is > the official standard for how to sort Unicode characters, and generally > follows how a human wou

Re: [Wikitech-l] Should we switch the default category collation to uca-default?

On Friday, May 27, 2016, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > Yes, of course, & a meta discussion will likely unearth many reasons to > opt-out ;) > > Does uca (or extension) do the right thing for West Frisian (fy) wrt y & i ? > > Or, ... it would be helpful to put the list of 94 wiki somewhere easy to

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Update from the Perf Team

Pages with large number of thumbnails tends to be a slow path in the parser. This is even more true for people using instant commons. I dont know for sure, but I imagine it could be improved by batching the checks for finding image width/height (that might be a difficult change to make though). --

Re: [Wikitech-l] Crediting the work of our community members

On Monday, May 30, 2016, Jon Robson wrote: > "I came across a patch from a user who was keen to move himself from > "Patch contributors" to "Developers" in the MediaWiki CREDITS file > [1]. It had been sitting there for over a year. He doesn't seem to > have been active since. I don't know what t

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

On Monday, July 11, 2016, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > It seems there is disagreement about what the correct interpretation of NULL in > the rev_content_model column is. Should NULL there mean > > (a) "the current page content model, as recorded in page_content_model" > > or should it mean > > (b) "the

Re: [Wikitech-l] What's the "correct" content model when rev_content_model is NULL?

On Monday, July 11, 2016, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Hi Jaime, thanks for the pointer! I had completely forgotten about that. > > A few thoughts about that RFC: > > * I have long thought that content_format is pretty pointless and redundant. I > haven't seen any content model that uses different seri

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