Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Mathew Howard]

Besides, there is no way to run airfibers off a single sync source...

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Not saying it can't be done or never works.  Just saying it is proper.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i have a site with Air Fiber 5x running the same 50mhx channel on 3
>> different backhauls with no problems of self interference using the 3
>> different sync soruces...
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> Wavelinc Communications
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>> tel. 419-562-6405
>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the
>>> whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around
>>> with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix.
 Plug the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also
 take passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any
 wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
 did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
 I guess you can never have it all.

 Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900
 SM which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.

 On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

 Hello all,

 Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?

 I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
 PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.

 Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?

 Thanks

 --
 Darin Steffl
 Minnesota WiFi
 www.mnwifi.com
 507-634-WiFi
  Like us on Facebook
 



>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

Not saying it can't be done or never works.  Just saying it is proper.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> i have a site with Air Fiber 5x running the same 50mhx channel on 3
> different backhauls with no problems of self interference using the 3
> different sync soruces...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> Wavelinc Communications
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> http://www.wavelinc.com
> tel. 419-562-6405
> fax. 419-617-0110
>
> On Aug 16, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> wrote:
>
>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the
>> whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around
>> with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug
>>> the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take
>>> passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any
>>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
>>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
>>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>>
>>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM
>>> which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>>
>>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>
>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Darin Steffl
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>  Like us on Facebook
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Kurt Fankhauser]

i have a site with Air Fiber 5x running the same 50mhx channel on 3 different 
backhauls with no problems of self interference using the 3 different sync 
soruces...

Sent from my iPhone

Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  wrote:
>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the whole 
>> tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around with a 
>> CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug 
>>> the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take 
>>> passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any 
>>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually 
>>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but 
>>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>> 
>>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM 
>>> which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>> 
 On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
 
 I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at PoE 
 which I don't think Netonix supports.
 
 Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
 
 Thanks
 
 -- 
 Darin Steffl
 Minnesota WiFi
 www.mnwifi.com
 507-634-WiFi
  Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Mathew Howard]

I suspect that's at least partially because the ePMP has an external GPS
antenna, and the PMP450 doesn't.

On Aug 16, 2016 7:58 PM, "Josh Baird"  wrote:

> Which really sucks, because the onboard GPS in ePMP is quite reliable.
>
> We use a SyncBox to provide sync for FSK and use a Netonix for POE (with
> pairs swapped) with no issues.
>
> On Aug 16, 2016, at 4:42 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> Yeah well on-board GPS on the 450 isn't exactly reliable. Wrong
> orientation, too close to steel, etc. It's OK for backup though, if it
> works anyway, and I have a couple dozen APs where it doesn't work at all.
>
> You can very easily use a PacketFlux SyncBox12 and time the APs via aux
> port. Of course you'll need the latest revision 'box for the 450i, Rev i0 I
> believe it is. Reverse the blues and browns and power it from a Netonix
> regular 24v switch port if you want. Unless the Netonix will complain about
> POE being on and no ethernet link present, but would that really matter?
>
> On 8/16/2016 4:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the whole
> tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around with
> a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug
>> the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take
>> passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any
>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>
>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM
>> which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>
>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>
>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Darin Steffl
>> Minnesota WiFi
>> www.mnwifi.com
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>  Like us on Facebook
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Baird]

Which really sucks, because the onboard GPS in ePMP is quite reliable.

We use a SyncBox to provide sync for FSK and use a Netonix for POE (with pairs 
swapped) with no issues.

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 4:42 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> Yeah well on-board GPS on the 450 isn't exactly reliable. Wrong orientation, 
> too close to steel, etc. It's OK for backup though, if it works anyway, and I 
> have a couple dozen APs where it doesn't work at all.
> 
> You can very easily use a PacketFlux SyncBox12 and time the APs via aux port. 
> Of course you'll need the latest revision 'box for the 450i, Rev i0 I believe 
> it is. Reverse the blues and browns and power it from a Netonix regular 24v 
> switch port if you want. Unless the Netonix will complain about POE being on 
> and no ethernet link present, but would that really matter?
> 
>> On 8/16/2016 4:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the whole 
>> tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around with a 
>> CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug 
>>> the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take 
>>> passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any 
>>> wires around. It will take either   polarity on any pair. 
>>> Cambium actually did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed 
>>> for 20-60vdc, but I guess you can never have it all.
>>> 
>>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM 
>>> which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>> 
>>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
 
 I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to   needing 
 48-56V and 802.3at PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
 
 Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
 
 Thanks
 
 -- 
 Darin Steffl
 Minnesota WiFi
 www.mnwifi.com
 507-634-WiFi
   Like us on Facebook
> 

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Mathew Howard]

True... I was thinking along the lines of, might as well use all four if
you can.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:01 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> Nah, the 35W should be fine. That radio is probably not going to use more
> than 20W. And yes, it's only two pairs, but Cambium said that's fine. In
> fact, that's exactly what you get when running on a CMM4 (in 48/56v mode,
> then you have to flip pins 5 & 7 because of the stupid 320/430 pinout).
>
> On 8/16/2016 6:49 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> I would use the 48VH (assuming we're still talking about the 450i AP)
> power on all 4 pairs is what they want, and they don't care about polarity.
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I know the H has power on all pins so I'd suggest looking in the forum
>> before plugging it in.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016 7:40 PM, "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So should I use regular 48V (0.75A) or 48VH (1.5A) for Netonix powering
>>> 450i AP 900mhz?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> i keep trying to preach that.
>>>> i know we have one site with two sync sources
>>>> no apparent problems tho
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:23 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>>
>>>> It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the
>>>>> whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess 
>>>>> around
>>>>> with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix.
>>>>>> Plug the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also
>>>>>> take passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change 
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
>>>>>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900
>>>>>> SM which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and
>>>>>> 802.3at PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Darin Steffl
>>>>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>>>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Darin Steffl
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[George Skorup]

Nah, the 35W should be fine. That radio is probably not going to use 
more than 20W. And yes, it's only two pairs, but Cambium said that's 
fine. In fact, that's exactly what you get when running on a CMM4 (in 
48/56v mode, then you have to flip pins 5 & 7 because of the stupid 
320/430 pinout).


On 8/16/2016 6:49 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
I would use the 48VH (assuming we're still talking about the 450i AP) 
power on all 4 pairs is what they want, and they don't care about 
polarity.


On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


I know the H has power on all pins so I'd suggest looking in the
forum before plugging it in.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Aug 16, 2016 7:40 PM, "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
<mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote:

So should I use regular 48V (0.75A) or 48VH (1.5A) for Netonix
powering 450i AP 900mhz?



On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
<par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
wrote:

i keep trying to preach that.
i know we have one site with two sync sources
no apparent problems tho

- Original Message -
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:23 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser"
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com
<mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync
so i can power the whole tower with one Netonix
Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around
with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to
get timing on 450i

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup
<geo...@cbcast.com <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

As others have said, you obviously won't get
sync from the Netonix. Plug the 450i *AP* in
and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will
also take passive injected power without
issue. And you don't need to change any wires
around. It will take either polarity on any
pair. Cambium actually did this right. Woulda
been even better if they designed for
20-60vdc, but I guess you can never have it all.

Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is
not 802.3at is the 900 SM which is the old
Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.

On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Hello all,

Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i
900mhz?

I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to
needing 48-56V and 802.3at PoE which I don't
think Netonix supports.

Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm
wrong and it will work?

Thanks

-- 
Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
507-634-WiFi
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like
us on Facebook
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>






-- 
Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
507-634-WiFi
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Mathew Howard]

I would use the 48VH (assuming we're still talking about the 450i AP) power
on all 4 pairs is what they want, and they don't care about polarity.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> I know the H has power on all pins so I'd suggest looking in the forum
> before plugging it in.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 16, 2016 7:40 PM, "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> So should I use regular 48V (0.75A) or 48VH (1.5A) for Netonix powering
>> 450i AP 900mhz?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i keep trying to preach that.
>>> i know we have one site with two sync sources
>>> no apparent problems tho
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:23 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>
>>> It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the
>>>> whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around
>>>> with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix.
>>>>> Plug the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also
>>>>> take passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change 
>>>>> any
>>>>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
>>>>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
>>>>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900
>>>>> SM which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>>>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Darin Steffl
>>>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Darin Steffl
>> Minnesota WiFi
>> www.mnwifi.com
>> 507-634-WiFi
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[George Skorup]

Either one should work. Really the only reason you'd need the 1.5A is if 
you're going to daisy chain another POE device onto the aux port. .75A 
should be more than enough for just the AP itself.


On 8/16/2016 6:40 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
So should I use regular 48V (0.75A) or 48VH (1.5A) for Netonix 
powering 450i AP 900mhz?




On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


i keep trying to preach that.
i know we have one site with two sync sources
no apparent problems tho

- Original Message -
*From:* Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:23 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser"
<lists.wavel...@gmail.com <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can
power the whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done,
but no i gotta mess around with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync
Injector now to get timing on 450i

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup
<geo...@cbcast.com <mailto:geo...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from
the Netonix. Plug the 450i *AP* in and go. It is
802.3at compliant, but it will also take passive
injected power without issue. And you don't need to
change any wires around. It will take either polarity
on any pair. Cambium actually did this right. Woulda
been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but I
guess you can never have it all.

Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not
802.3at is the 900 SM which is the old Canopy 29.5v
like FSK and regular 450.

On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Hello all,

Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?

I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing
48-56V and 802.3at PoE which I don't think Netonix
supports.

Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong
and it will work?

Thanks

-- 
Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
507-634-WiFi
<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on
Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>






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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

I know the H has power on all pins so I'd suggest looking in the forum
before plugging it in.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 16, 2016 7:40 PM, "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

> So should I use regular 48V (0.75A) or 48VH (1.5A) for Netonix powering
> 450i AP 900mhz?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> i keep trying to preach that.
>> i know we have one site with two sync sources
>> no apparent problems tho
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:23 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>
>> It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the
>>> whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around
>>> with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix.
>>>> Plug the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also
>>>> take passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any
>>>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
>>>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
>>>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>>>
>>>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900
>>>> SM which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>>>
>>>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>>
>>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Darin Steffl
>>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[George Skorup]

Yeah well on-board GPS on the 450 isn't exactly reliable. Wrong 
orientation, too close to steel, etc. It's OK for backup though, if it 
works anyway, and I have a couple dozen APs where it doesn't work at all.


You can very easily use a PacketFlux SyncBox12 and time the APs via aux 
port. Of course you'll need the latest revision 'box for the 450i, Rev 
i0 I believe it is. Reverse the blues and browns and power it from a 
Netonix regular 24v switch port if you want. Unless the Netonix will 
complain about POE being on and no ethernet link present, but would that 
really matter?


On 8/16/2016 4:14 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the 
whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess 
around with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i


On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup > wrote:


As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the
Netonix. Plug the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant,
but it will also take passive injected power without issue. And
you don't need to change any wires around. It will take either
polarity on any pair. Cambium actually did this right. Woulda been
even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but I guess you can
never have it all.

Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the
900 SM which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.

On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Hello all,

Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?

I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and
802.3at PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.

Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?

Thanks

-- 
Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com 
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Darin Steffl]

So should I use regular 48V (0.75A) or 48VH (1.5A) for Netonix powering
450i AP 900mhz?



On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> wrote:

>
> i keep trying to preach that.
> i know we have one site with two sync sources
> no apparent problems tho
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>
> It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the
>> whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around
>> with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug
>>> the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take
>>> passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any
>>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
>>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
>>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>>
>>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM
>>> which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>>
>>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>
>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Darin Steffl
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>


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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

i keep trying to preach that.
i know we have one site with two sync sources
no apparent problems tho

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Luthman 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 4:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix


  It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373



  On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:

it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the whole 
tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around with a 
CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i


On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

  As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug 
the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take passive 
injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any wires around. It 
will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually did this right. Woulda 
been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but I guess you can never have 
it all.

  Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM 
which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.


  On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Hello all, 


Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?


I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at 
PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.


Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?


Thanks



-- 

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Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, but it would still be nice if there was on board sync... a lot of
times we only need one 900mhz sector on a tower, in which case on board
sync would be perfectly fine.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> wrote:
>
>> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the
>> whole tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around
>> with a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug
>>> the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take
>>> passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any
>>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
>>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
>>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>>
>>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM
>>> which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>>
>>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>
>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Darin Steffl
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>  Like us on Facebook
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

It's proper to have one sync source at the site anyway.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 16, 2016 5:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser"  wrote:

> it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the whole
> tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around with
> a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug
>> the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take
>> passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any
>> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
>> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
>> I guess you can never have it all.
>>
>> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM
>> which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>>
>> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>
>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Darin Steffl
>> Minnesota WiFi
>> www.mnwifi.com
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>  Like us on Facebook
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Kurt Fankhauser]

it would be better if it (450i) had on-board sync so i can power the whole
tower with one Netonix Switch and be done, but no i gotta mess around with
a CTM2 or Packet Flux Sync Injector now to get timing on 450i

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 3:23 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug
> the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take
> passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any
> wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually
> did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, but
> I guess you can never have it all.
>
> Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM
> which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.
>
> On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>
> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at PoE
> which I don't think Netonix supports.
>
> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
>  Like us on Facebook
> 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[George Skorup]

As others have said, you obviously won't get sync from the Netonix. Plug 
the 450i *AP* in and go. It is 802.3at compliant, but it will also take 
passive injected power without issue. And you don't need to change any 
wires around. It will take either polarity on any pair. Cambium actually 
did this right. Woulda been even better if they designed for 20-60vdc, 
but I guess you can never have it all.


Out of the 450i series, the only radio that is not 802.3at is the 900 SM 
which is the old Canopy 29.5v like FSK and regular 450.


On 8/16/2016 12:18 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Hello all,

Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?

I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at 
PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.


Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?

Thanks

--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com 
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook 

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

Don't give them the idea of POE then! =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's what I said. If they insist on having it be copper it should be
> 802.3at. SFP radios by default fall into the category of "direct -48VDC
> feed".
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> No.  Wrong.  SFP SFP SFP.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016 2:20 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In 3-4 years from now, if every new product is not either 802.3at
>>> standards compliant PoE, or direct -48VDC feed (such as carrier-grade PTP
>>> radios that have dual A and B power feeds), I will be really disappointed...
>>>
>>> Stop reinventing the wheel you crazy proprietary vendors. Your PoE
>>> standard is not special or magical and you're wasting engineering hours
>>> designing your own weird PoE.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are talking about the PMP450 AP.  Not the 450i AP.  Not any SM.  The
>>>> "PMP450 AP"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port,
>>>>> while the Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the 
>>>>> PMP
>>>>> 100 platform"
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Christopher Tyler
>>>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>>>> 417.851.1107
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>>>
>>>>> 450, not 450i
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>>>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Christopher Tyler
>>>>> > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>>> > Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>>>> > 417.851.1107
>>>>> >
>>>>> > - Original Message -
>>>>> > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Change the pinout I believe.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Josh Luthman
>>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> > Suite 1337
>>>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>> > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>&

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Eric Kuhnke]

That's what I said. If they insist on having it be copper it should be
802.3at. SFP radios by default fall into the category of "direct -48VDC
feed".



On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> No.  Wrong.  SFP SFP SFP.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 16, 2016 2:20 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In 3-4 years from now, if every new product is not either 802.3at
>> standards compliant PoE, or direct -48VDC feed (such as carrier-grade PTP
>> radios that have dual A and B power feeds), I will be really disappointed...
>>
>> Stop reinventing the wheel you crazy proprietary vendors. Your PoE
>> standard is not special or magical and you're wasting engineering hours
>> designing your own weird PoE.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We are talking about the PMP450 AP.  Not the 450i AP.  Not any SM.  The
>>> "PMP450 AP"
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.
>>>>
>>>> "Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port, while
>>>> the Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the PMP 100
>>>> platform"
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher Tyler
>>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>>> 417.851.1107
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>>
>>>> 450, not 450i
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Christopher Tyler
>>>> > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>>> > Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>>> > 417.851.1107
>>>> >
>>>> > - Original Message -
>>>> > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>> >
>>>> > Change the pinout I believe.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Josh Luthman
>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>> > Suite 1337
>>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com
>>>> > >
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Josh Luthman
>>>> > >> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> > >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> > >> Suite 1337
>>>> > >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> > >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <
>>>> cr...@totalhighspeed.net
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> bp
>>>> > >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Hello all,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and
>>>> 802.3at
>>>> > >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will
>>>> work?
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Thanks
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> --
>>>> > >>>> Darin Steffl
>>>> > >>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>> > >>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>>> > >>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>> > >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>>> > >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

No.  Wrong.  SFP SFP SFP.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 16, 2016 2:20 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In 3-4 years from now, if every new product is not either 802.3at
> standards compliant PoE, or direct -48VDC feed (such as carrier-grade PTP
> radios that have dual A and B power feeds), I will be really disappointed...
>
> Stop reinventing the wheel you crazy proprietary vendors. Your PoE
> standard is not special or magical and you're wasting engineering hours
> designing your own weird PoE.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> We are talking about the PMP450 AP.  Not the 450i AP.  Not any SM.  The
>> "PMP450 AP"
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>>
>>> No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.
>>>
>>> "Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port, while
>>> the Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the PMP 100
>>> platform"
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher Tyler
>>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>> 417.851.1107
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>>
>>> 450, not 450i
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> > The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Christopher Tyler
>>> > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>> > Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>> > 417.851.1107
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>> >
>>> > Change the pinout I believe.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Josh Luthman
>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>> > Suite 1337
>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com
>>> > >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Josh Luthman
>>> > >> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> > >> 1100 Wayne St
>>> > >> Suite 1337
>>> > >> Troy, OH 45373
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> > >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <
>>> cr...@totalhighspeed.net
>>> > >
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> bp
>>> > >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Hello all,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and
>>> 802.3at
>>> > >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will
>>> work?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Thanks
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>> Darin Steffl
>>> > >>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>> > >>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>> > >>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>> > >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>> > >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Eric Kuhnke]

In 3-4 years from now, if every new product is not either 802.3at standards
compliant PoE, or direct -48VDC feed (such as carrier-grade PTP radios that
have dual A and B power feeds), I will be really disappointed...

Stop reinventing the wheel you crazy proprietary vendors. Your PoE standard
is not special or magical and you're wasting engineering hours designing
your own weird PoE.


On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> We are talking about the PMP450 AP.  Not the 450i AP.  Not any SM.  The
> "PMP450 AP"
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Christopher Tyler <
> ch...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote:
>
>> No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.
>>
>> "Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port, while
>> the Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the PMP 100
>> platform"
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Tyler
>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>> 417.851.1107
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>>
>> 450, not 450i
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <
>> ch...@totalhighspeed.net
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Christopher Tyler
>> > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>> > Total Highspeed Internet Services
>> > 417.851.1107
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> > To: af@afmug.com
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>> >
>> > Change the pinout I believe.
>> >
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Josh Luthman
>> > >> Office: 937-552-2340
>> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > >> 1100 Wayne St
>> > >> Suite 1337
>> > >> Troy, OH 45373
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> > >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <
>> cr...@totalhighspeed.net
>> > >
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> bp
>> > >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Hello all,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and
>> 802.3at
>> > >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will
>> work?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thanks
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> Darin Steffl
>> > >>>> Minnesota WiFi
>> > >>>> www.mnwifi.com
>> > >>>> 507-634-WiFi
>> > >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>> > >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

We are talking about the PMP450 AP.  Not the 450i AP.  Not any SM.  The
"PMP450 AP"


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> wrote:

> No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.
>
> "Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port, while
> the Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the PMP 100
> platform"
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>
> 450, not 450i
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <
> ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> > wrote:
>
> > The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher Tyler
> > MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> > Total Highspeed Internet Services
> > 417.851.1107
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
> >
> > Change the pinout I believe.
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
> > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Josh Luthman
> > >> Office: 937-552-2340
> > >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> > >> 1100 Wayne St
> > >> Suite 1337
> > >> Troy, OH 45373
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> > >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <
> cr...@totalhighspeed.net
> > >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> bp
> > >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hello all,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and
> 802.3at
> > >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will
> work?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Darin Steffl
> > >>>> Minnesota WiFi
> > >>>> www.mnwifi.com
> > >>>> 507-634-WiFi
> > >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
> > >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Christopher Tyler]

Sorry got a bit confused with the 450/450i discussion.Josh is correct, the 450 
AP is reversed the 450i AP is not.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.

"Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port, while the 
Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the PMP 100 platform"

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

450, not 450i


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> wrote:

> The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>
> Change the pinout I believe.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
> >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Darin Steffl
> >>>> Minnesota WiFi
> >>>> www.mnwifi.com
> >>>> 507-634-WiFi
> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Christopher Tyler]

No, the 450i AP uses normal PoE. The SM/CPE requires a pin swap.

"Access point is now 802.3at compatible and includes an AUX port, while the 
Subscriber can re-use the 30 VDC power supplies common to the PMP 100 platform"

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

450, not 450i


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> wrote:

> The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>
> Change the pinout I believe.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
> >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Darin Steffl
> >>>> Minnesota WiFi
> >>>> www.mnwifi.com
> >>>> 507-634-WiFi
> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

450, not 450i


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> wrote:

> The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>
> Change the pinout I believe.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
> >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Darin Steffl
> >>>> Minnesota WiFi
> >>>> www.mnwifi.com
> >>>> 507-634-WiFi
> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Kurt Fankhauser]

so the 24v radios will still link their ethernet at gigabit after you
switch the brown/blue wires?

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Christopher Tyler <ch...@totalhighspeed.net
> wrote:

> The SM's are still reversed and use the 30c Cambium power supply, but the
> AP's are not.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:01:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>
> The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix
>
> Change the pinout I believe.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> >> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It will work we're using it in many places
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
> >>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Darin Steffl
> >>>> Minnesota WiFi
> >>>> www.mnwifi.com
> >>>> 507-634-WiFi
> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
> >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Christopher Tyler]

The SM's are still reversed and use the 30c Cambium power supply, but the AP's 
are not.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Tyler" <ch...@totalhighspeed.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:01:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

Change the pinout I believe.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It will work we're using it in many places
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>>
>>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Darin Steffl
>>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Christopher Tyler]

The 450i AP's use standard PoE. It's not reversed.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:00:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

Change the pinout I believe.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It will work we're using it in many places
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>>
>>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Darin Steffl
>>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Reynolds]

One could wire up the shielded keystone that way :)

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It will work we're using it in many places

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince  wrote:

 It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.


 bp
 


 On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:

 Hello all,

 Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?

 I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
 PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.

 Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?

 Thanks

 --
 Darin Steffl
 Minnesota WiFi
 www.mnwifi.com
 507-634-WiFi
  Like us on Facebook
 



>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

Change the pinout I believe.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It will work we're using it in many places

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince  wrote:

 It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.


 bp
 


 On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:

 Hello all,

 Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?

 I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
 PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.

 Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?

 Thanks

 --
 Darin Steffl
 Minnesota WiFi
 www.mnwifi.com
 507-634-WiFi
  Like us on Facebook
 



>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Kurt Fankhauser]

how do you do gigabit with the 24v polarity needing reversed?

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> 24v and 48v but Netonix does both
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It will work we're using it in many places
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>>
>>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>>
>>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Darin Steffl
>>> Minnesota WiFi
>>> www.mnwifi.com
>>> 507-634-WiFi
>>>  Like us on Facebook
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Josh Luthman]

24v and 48v but Netonix does both


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
wrote:

> pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House 
> wrote:
>
>> It will work we're using it in many places
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>>
>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at
>> PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Darin Steffl
>> Minnesota WiFi
>> www.mnwifi.com
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>  Like us on Facebook
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Kurt Fankhauser]

pmp450 and pmp450i have different poe voltages

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Craig House 
wrote:

> It will work we're using it in many places
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>
> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at PoE
> which I don't think Netonix supports.
>
> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
>  Like us on Facebook
> 
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Craig House]

It will work we're using it in many places

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 16, 2016, at 12:30, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?
>> 
>> I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at PoE 
>> which I don't think Netonix supports.
>> 
>> Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> -- 
>> Darin Steffl
>> Minnesota WiFi
>> www.mnwifi.com
>> 507-634-WiFi
>>  Like us on Facebook
> 

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Bill Prince]

It will probably power it, but it won't provide sync.


bp


On 8/16/2016 10:18 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:

Hello all,

Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?

I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at 
PoE which I don't think Netonix supports.


Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?

Thanks

--
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com 
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook 

[AFMUG] PMP450i 900mhz and Netonix

[Darin Steffl]

Hello all,

Will a Netonix 48V switch power the PMP450i 900mhz?

I'm leaning towards that it will NOT due to needing 48-56V and 802.3at PoE
which I don't think Netonix supports.

Can anyone confirm my thoughts or tell me I'm wrong and it will work?

Thanks

-- 
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook