[android-developers] Folding animation on Android 3.0+
I'm wondering if anyone has seen an animation tutorial that demonstrates how you'd fold a view vertically with the middle being the fold point. An example being if you took a piece of paper, put it flat on a table, then took the top of the paper and pulled it down to the bottom and made a crease in the middle of it. I'd like to do that with a View in Android and I'm curious if that's possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's a solid accuracy measurement from LocationManager?
Wow, not sure how I read it _that_ wrong. Thanks for pointing that out. -- Chris Stewart Locomo Labs http://locomolabs.com On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 at 1:41 AM, gjs wrote: Hi, It returns meters not % public float getAccuracy () Since: API Level 1 Returns the accuracy of the fix in meters. If hasAccuracy() is false, 0.0 is returned. Regards On Feb 14, 1:05 pm, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com (http://gmail.com) wrote: 30% is from the getAccuracy call on the Location returned. Chris Stewart Founder, Locomo Labshttp://locomolabs.com On Feb 13, 2012 8:53 PM, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com (http://gmail.com) wrote: Hi, 30% of what ?, percentage seem meaningless to me. Try examining http://developer.android.com/reference/android/location/Location.html...() And yes you can often get GPS fix ok on Android devices indoors near to window, helps if there is good sunny weather outside. Regards On Feb 14, 4:35 am, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com (http://gmail.com) wrote: Sure, that makes sense. I would assume that walking directions means they're outside, in which case I would expect GPS to be available. I'm trying to tell what business someone is in, so some level of accuracy is required. I'm plugging the coordinates being returned into Google Maps and it's finding me just fine. However, simply seeing 30% is concerning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com (mailto:android-developers@googlegroups.com) To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com (mailto:android-developers@googlegroups.com) To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com (mailto:android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] What's a solid accuracy measurement from LocationManager?
I'm working with LocationManager to grab a users current location and I've noticed the highest accuracy I've gotten is ~36%. I'm indoors currently, as will most of the users of my application, and I have yet to get a GPS result. I'm only able to obtain a result from the network provider. I'm not completely surprised by that, but I was thinking GPS might be possible considering how close I am to a window. More importantly, I'm curious what baseline for accuracy others are using. Is greater than 30% sufficient? I imagine GPS would yield far better accuracy but it looks like that's not a likely option in my scenario, even though I'll look for both network and GPS as available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] What's a solid accuracy measurement from LocationManager?
Sure, that makes sense. I would assume that walking directions means they're outside, in which case I would expect GPS to be available. I'm trying to tell what business someone is in, so some level of accuracy is required. I'm plugging the coordinates being returned into Google Maps and it's finding me just fine. However, simply seeing 30% is concerning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: What's a solid accuracy measurement from LocationManager?
30% is from the getAccuracy call on the Location returned. Chris Stewart Founder, Locomo Labs http://locomolabs.com On Feb 13, 2012 8:53 PM, gjs garyjamessi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 30% of what ?, percentage seem meaningless to me. Try examining http://developer.android.com/reference/android/location/Location.html#getAccuracy() And yes you can often get GPS fix ok on Android devices indoors near to window, helps if there is good sunny weather outside. Regards On Feb 14, 4:35 am, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, that makes sense. I would assume that walking directions means they're outside, in which case I would expect GPS to be available. I'm trying to tell what business someone is in, so some level of accuracy is required. I'm plugging the coordinates being returned into Google Maps and it's finding me just fine. However, simply seeing 30% is concerning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Understanding the lifecycle of ViewPager
It seems like the Loader is now a replacement for AsyncTask, but does it also replace the use of a Runnable/Thread scenario? The AsyncTask is more difficult to set up, so I understand why a Loader makes sense there ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5603504/android-3-0-what-are-the-advantages-of-using-loadermanager-instances-exactly). In my scenarios, I have data being loaded from a web service but there's a progress dialog and action only needs to be taken after the process is completed. So for this I've always created a runnable, started a new thread from that, and have an on UI runnable that's called after the processing is completed. Should I instead be looking at using Loaders for this moving forward? -- Chris Stewart On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the reply Dianne. I'm not completely sure what you mean by custom loader, are you referring to what was introduced in 3.2? If so, is it available in the support library for pre-3.2? The Loader framework is in the Android support package / compatibility library / thingy. :-) -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Warescription: Three Android Books, Plus Updates, One Low Price! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Understanding the lifecycle of ViewPager
I see, and that makes more sense. Thanks for the explanation. While using an AsyncTaskLoader wasn't completely necessary for what I'm doing, I have it all working and it wasn't complicated to get going. So I'll call that a win-win. I did manage to solve the original intent of this question today by creating an AsyncTaskLoader that understands how to load in all of the data the fragments in my ViewPager need. Thanks for the direction, the app is behaving exactly how I'd like now. -- Chris Stewart On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.comwrote: Loader is not a replacement for AsyncTask. In fact, Loader itself does nothing, it is just the hook into interacting with the lifecycle of LoaderManager/Activity/Fragment. AsyncTaskLoader is a Loader that uses an AsyncTask to do its loading on a separate thread. This also is not a replacement for AsyncTask; it is a convenience for doing background operations via AsyncTask that is managed on conjunction with the lifecycle of the LoaderManager/Activity/Fragment. If AsyncTaskLoader makes it easy to do what you want, then great use that. If not, then use whatever works best for you -- AsyncTask, a Thread, etc. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: It seems like the Loader is now a replacement for AsyncTask, but does it also replace the use of a Runnable/Thread scenario? The AsyncTask is more difficult to set up, so I understand why a Loader makes sense there ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5603504/android-3-0-what-are-the-advantages-of-using-loadermanager-instances-exactly). In my scenarios, I have data being loaded from a web service but there's a progress dialog and action only needs to be taken after the process is completed. So for this I've always created a runnable, started a new thread from that, and have an on UI runnable that's called after the processing is completed. Should I instead be looking at using Loaders for this moving forward? -- Chris Stewart On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the reply Dianne. I'm not completely sure what you mean by custom loader, are you referring to what was introduced in 3.2? If so, is it available in the support library for pre-3.2? The Loader framework is in the Android support package / compatibility library / thingy. :-) -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Warescription: Three Android Books, Plus Updates, One Low Price! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Understanding the lifecycle of ViewPager
I'm working on implementing ViewPager and I want to let the host activity load the background data (from the Internet) instead of each fragment doing an independent I/O request. The reason why is because the same data is being loaded into two fragments, with the only difference being a category. I have two instances of ViewPager in my app, where this scenario holds true (two different types of data, but each being split by only a category). If I can let the host activity fetch the data in the background, I'll be saving 2 API calls every time the app is used. I want to let the ViewPager and it's fragments know when to update themselves when the background load is finished so I can fetch the data once and pass it down into the fragments. However, I can't seem to find any examples of this. I've tried getting the fragments from the adapter when the data load is complete, but I'm running into various synchronization problems. I've tried calling notifyDataSetChanged on the adapter (subclass of FragmentPagerAdapter), but it doesn't appear to do anything. Another piece to this puzzle is that I'm using ViewPagerIndicator to get the title effect seen in the Android Market and Google+ apps. I've tried not initializing the FragmentPagerAdapter, ViewPager, and TitlePageIndicator until after the data load is complete, but I'm seeing the TitlePageIndicator attempt to be drawn anyway and failing when calculating the bounds since it hasn't been given a ViewPager instance just yet. Has anyone else tried to use the ViewPager is this scenario? I think if I found a nice outline of how the ViewPager's lifecycle works, I would have better luck in figuring this workflow out. Every example I can find lets the fragments self contain everything, which I completely understand the reasoning behind and will go that route if necessary but would love to cut the required network I/O requests if possible. -- Chris Stewart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: SDK 4, R15, where is the navigation button?
I suspect you mean the menu button. I believe, and could be very wrong, but if you're using Android 4.0 and on a display of 720p or better (e.g., Galaxy Nexus), you won't see that button. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Kumar Bibek coomar@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean by the navigation button? On Nov 8, 11:54 pm, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org wrote: bump On Nov 1, 3:17 pm, sblantipodi perini.dav...@dpsoftware.org wrote: Bumping the question until I'll get an answer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] android statistics (android versions and their market share)
http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:09 PM, John Goche johngoch...@googlemail.comwrote: Hello, I wonder if anyone could tell me how long the latest version of android (2.3.3) has been out. Where can I find a web page with a pie chart of the relative number of phones which have been produced for each android version? Thanks a lot, Many thanks, John Goche P.S. I am considering making my app available on lower versions so as to increase sales but as of now I am unsure about how much benefit I could reap from such an increase in number of supported phones as I don't have the figures of what's out there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Understanding the lifecycle of ViewPager
Thanks for the reply Dianne. I'm not completely sure what you mean by custom loader, are you referring to what was introduced in 3.2? If so, is it available in the support library for pre-3.2? I'm looking for similar functionality found, or at least perceived to be, in the Google+ app. You can see the loading image working in the Action Bar, seemingly showing overall progress for the fragments inside the ViewPager. Chris Stewart http://locomolabs.com On Nov 8, 2011 6:43 PM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Off-hand, I think it would be easier to implement a custom loader that knows how to load the data once and share it across all requests. On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: I'm working on implementing ViewPager and I want to let the host activity load the background data (from the Internet) instead of each fragment doing an independent I/O request. The reason why is because the same data is being loaded into two fragments, with the only difference being a category. I have two instances of ViewPager in my app, where this scenario holds true (two different types of data, but each being split by only a category). If I can let the host activity fetch the data in the background, I'll be saving 2 API calls every time the app is used. I want to let the ViewPager and it's fragments know when to update themselves when the background load is finished so I can fetch the data once and pass it down into the fragments. However, I can't seem to find any examples of this. I've tried getting the fragments from the adapter when the data load is complete, but I'm running into various synchronization problems. I've tried calling notifyDataSetChanged on the adapter (subclass of FragmentPagerAdapter), but it doesn't appear to do anything. Another piece to this puzzle is that I'm using ViewPagerIndicator to get the title effect seen in the Android Market and Google+ apps. I've tried not initializing the FragmentPagerAdapter, ViewPager, and TitlePageIndicator until after the data load is complete, but I'm seeing the TitlePageIndicator attempt to be drawn anyway and failing when calculating the bounds since it hasn't been given a ViewPager instance just yet. Has anyone else tried to use the ViewPager is this scenario? I think if I found a nice outline of how the ViewPager's lifecycle works, I would have better luck in figuring this workflow out. Every example I can find lets the fragments self contain everything, which I completely understand the reasoning behind and will go that route if necessary but would love to cut the required network I/O requests if possible. -- Chris Stewart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Where do you aim for design specs?
Thanks a lot for the responses. I didn't realize such a large number of devices are categorized into just two buckets. I suspect normal/xhdpi will gain share sooner rather than later, as I believe the Galaxy Nexus fits in that group. I would imagine the influx of high res/high density displays will begin soon as well. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:21 PM, B Lyon bradfl...@gmail.com wrote: ugh. Dealing with this exact same issue myself at the moment (iPhone -- android). The screens link Mark pointed out is great to see what things are out there as of Oct 3 - 90% are apparently Normal/hdpi or Normal/mdpi, so you can set up the avd's to take a look at how things look (or buy all the devices).Not depicted on the list, of course, is the potential increase of Kindle Fires that are to be shipped Nov 15. Amazon has some info on how to configure the emulator for this ( https://developer.amazon.com/help/faq.html#KindleFire which I found via one of Mark's answers on stackoverflow). On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote: On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Going from a world where he worried about 3.5 only, to a world where every size is potentially available, is a concern of mine. http://www.amazon.com/Red-Bull-Energy-Drink-8-4-Ounce/dp/B000MTST70/httpcommonsco-20 :-) So I'm wondering, which screen size, resolution, density, do we aim for to start with? That's like saying do I focus on 800x600, 804x567, or 923x725 resolution browser windows first?. The answer is all of them, because you focus on creating a design that incorporates rules for handling resizeable browser windows. Certainly we'll need to work on each of the layout/resource variations (small, medium, large, xlarge, ldpi, mdpi, hpdi, etc, etc) but I'm looking for a reference point to get started. Should we be focusing on the largest for phones, and largest for tablets, with the expectation that we can mostly scale down from each of those to the smaller phone and tablet sizes/resolutions/densities? I wouldn't. On a tactical level, it's almost always easier to scale up than down. Strategically, your first job is to determine what you care about. -small screens, for example, are not terribly popular, so you might elect to skip those in the interests of reducing development effort. See: http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/screens.html Your second job is to come up with the big-ticket designs for your UX on the remaining screen sizes. For example, where will you use one fragment per activity in -normal devices and use multiple fragments per activity in -large and/or -xlarge? See: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/tablets-and-handsets.html Your third job is, within a fragment, to design layouts that can handle the variations in screen size the fragment will be expected to cope with. For some fragments, they will have minor variations in size (e.g., a phone-sized screen on a phone or a phone-sized portion of a tablet screen). For some fragments, they will have much more dramatic variations in size (e.g., a case where you will only ever have the fragment by itself in an activity, or you have an activity sans fragments). Here, your need to teach your GUI designer the basic rules for The Big Three Android layouts: -- use android:layout_weight with LinearLayout -- use android:stretchColumns and android:shrinkColumns with TableLayout -- use all the android:layout_* rules with RelativeLayout, to stipulate what is attached to what (with whitespace therefore implied) Your GUI designer should be able to give you GUI designs that depict these rules. Densities tend to fall out after the basic design is complete. Either stick with a single density for each image (and let Android resample it, with varying degrees of quality and performance) or package in one copy of the image per density (at the cost of a somewhat larger APK). If you have the same image that should appear in different sizes in different screen sizes or layouts, again you will need to decide if you want Android resizing the image (saves development effort at cost of speed/quality) or if you want to package in multiple renditions of the image at different sizes (e.g., icon-standard vs. icon-embiggened) for each relevant density. This would be an approach for a regular app. Games probably come at this from a totally different approach vector, for example. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android Training in NYC: http://marakana.com/training/android/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
Re: [android-developers] Re: The current state of C2DM
Thanks for the feedback. I spent some time this week getting it set up, and it works quite well. I've had some issues with multiple devices (phones and tablets), unregistering, and re-registering, and all of that synced up perfectly. But it definitely looks promising. I think once I work through all of the specific scenarios, I'll be good to go. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Studio LFP studio@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any battled tested apps using it at the moment, but I have been testing it on some internal applications for a company. The whole process was fairly simple and seems to be reliable so far. Again, I'm in the testing phase so I'm not sending a large amount of requests a day. It took about 30-60 minutes from start to finish for both the Android and server side to get working with no previous knowledge of it. I'd recommend you test it out for yourself. Just remember that it requires the Android Market to function properly, so it will restrict you from some hardware. Steven Studio LFP http://www.studio-lfp.com On Monday, October 24, 2011 7:43:20 PM UTC-5, Chris Stewart wrote: It's been quite awhile since I last looked into C2DM and at that time I remember a lot of developers were not recommending it for various reasons, although I don't remember those reasons today. I'm very much in need of push notification support for an app I'm building, so I've started looking into C2DM again. I'm curious if the general attitude toward it has changed with the developers here and if anyone has trench-level battle stories they'd care to share. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Where do you aim for design specs?
I'm starting the design for an app that spans phones and tablets (2.1 - 4.0, custom action bar pre-3.0, native action bar 3.0+) and working with a designer used to the iPhone. Going from a world where he worried about 3.5 only, to a world where every size is potentially available, is a concern of mine. So I'm wondering, which screen size, resolution, density, do we aim for to start with? Certainly we'll need to work on each of the layout/resource variations (small, medium, large, xlarge, ldpi, mdpi, hpdi, etc, etc) but I'm looking for a reference point to get started. Should we be focusing on the largest for phones, and largest for tablets, with the expectation that we can mostly scale down from each of those to the smaller phone and tablet sizes/resolutions/densities? Any thoughts on this topic are welcome. -- Chris Stewart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] The current state of C2DM
It's been quite awhile since I last looked into C2DM and at that time I remember a lot of developers were not recommending it for various reasons, although I don't remember those reasons today. I'm very much in need of push notification support for an app I'm building, so I've started looking into C2DM again. I'm curious if the general attitude toward it has changed with the developers here and if anyone has trench-level battle stories they'd care to share. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] news app
What you want are two fragments, one for the article view and one for the article detail view. You then would have an activity (or two) to manage them based on phone versus tablet. The fragments would communicate back to the base activity when something happens, say a touch on the article view, and the base activity would react as needed based on which type of device it's on. So if it's a tablet, where the base activity is managing both fragments, it would simply call a method on the article detail fragment. If it was on a phone, the base activity would use an intent to start the second activity. Make sense? Chris Stewart http://locomolabs.com On Aug 22, 2011, at 5:30 PM, bob wrote: Ok, let's say you are working on a news app. So, you have a ListView with some article titles. Then, when an article is clicked you have a TextView that replaces the ListView. What is the best way to do this? I'm thinking of having the ListView and TextView on top of each other in an AbsoluteLayout and showing/hiding as needed. Or, I can create two XML files and using setContentView as needed. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Can't get html5 video working properly -- happy to pay for an answer
I have had problems with this in Honeycomb, and I believe it started with 3.1. In 3.0, it worked fine. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:27 PM, John john.purc...@medialets.com wrote: Has anyone gotten inline video working on Honeycomb? This used to work if you had hardware acceleration enabled, but this seems to have been broken in 3.1/2 (WebView.isHardwareAccelerated() will always now return false and inline video will no longer work). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Does the in-app billing permission affect region availability?
I have a free application that I'd like to add an AdMob advertisement to. I'm planning on adding an in-app purchase option to remove the advertisement. If I do that, will my application now only be available to countries that support purchasing on the Market? Or, will everyone still be able to download it but only certain countries can use the in-app purchasing piece? -- Chris Stewart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Anyone developing on the Galaxy Tab and a Mac?
I've been getting reports of a WebView error for the 3.1 update on the Tab. It worked fine for them on 3.0, and works fine for me with 3.1 on the Xoom. But that's a whole different issue. :) Hoping to get confirmation from someone here who develops on the Mac and has a Tab. On Jun 11, 2011 1:41 PM, dan raaka danra...@gmail.com wrote: adb should be working all fine for development purposes on google i/o device. Also, 3.1 was OTA'ed to these devices starting yesterday : check this.. SamsungJohn http://twitter.com/#%21/SamsungJohn John Imah Google I/O 3.1 Update is available, see details in link! http://ow.ly/5eoTu; -Dan On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:53 AM, John Coryat cor...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't show on my mac. All I've done is plug it in though, so there may be a workaround that I'm unaware of. I have four other devices so it's not a big deal. I must say that it's an excellent tablet. Once it's running 3.1 it will be even better. From what I understand, 3.1 is supposed to ship with the commercially available devices. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Anyone developing on the Galaxy Tab and a Mac?
I've been hearing that Mac support for the Galaxy Tab from Google I/O is very poor. I've been planning to buy one next week to use as my primary development device but if this is the case, I may have to stick with the Xoom. Can anyone confirm or deny what I've been hearing? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Anyone developing on the Galaxy Tab and a Mac?
I hope that changes, quickly. I won't have the Xoom much longer and will need to purchace something. If I can't do dev on the Tab, I might not have a choice but to buy a Xoom. :-/ Sent from my Xoom On Jun 11, 2011 11:54 AM, John Coryat cor...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't show on my mac. All I've done is plug it in though, so there may be a workaround that I'm unaware of. I have four other devices so it's not a big deal. I must say that it's an excellent tablet. Once it's running 3.1 it will be even better. From what I understand, 3.1 is supposed to ship with the commercially available devices. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android 3.1 is too slow
Use a real device is a good answer, especially when it comes to Honeycomb as the market stands today. It will likely fragment some over time but I highly doubt it will turn into what the phone market has. Frankly, I'd rather pay $400 for a tablet than even fire up the emulator once. If you expect to release your app and support the platform in a first-class way, you'll need one eventually anyway. Chris Stewart http://locomolabs.com On Jun 11, 2011 1:40 PM, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: Saying use a real device isn't very helpful or realistic. Android apps need to be tested in many screen configurations and in every supported SDK level. If the cost of entry to Android development is thousands of dollars of test devices, that's just too high. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Want to join this group.
Ok, ok, I'll add you I guess. There, you're added. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: No can doozie, babydoll, no can doozie. On May 19, 3:40 pm, Tushar mototus...@gmail.com wrote: Want to join this group. Please add me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Landscape mode, in either direction
My app is currently locked to landscape mode, but I'd like to enable show as landscape in either direction (top up, or bottom up). Is something like this possible? I'm on Honeycomb if that helps. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Landscape mode, in either direction
Dianne, Great, thanks! -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.comwrote: For GB and up: android:screenOrientation=sensorLandscape http://developer.android.com/reference/android/R.attr.html#screenOrientation http://developer.android.com/reference/android/R.attr.html#screenOrientation On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: My app is currently locked to landscape mode, but I'd like to enable show as landscape in either direction (top up, or bottom up). Is something like this possible? I'm on Honeycomb if that helps. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: 1380 Paid Applications in One Free Torrent then How to SELL it?
I 100% agree with nemic. You can put tons and tons of effort in fighting piracy and maybe get a small return on it. It's better to spend this energy and effort in improving/augmenting your app for your paying customers. +1. My recent apps have been all over the piracy sites but instead of focusing any attention on that, I simply work to make my app better. Not sure there's a better way to look at the situation. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Streets Of Boston flyingdutc...@gmail.comwrote: I 100% agree with nemic. You can put tons and tons of effort in fighting piracy and maybe get a small return on it. It's better to spend this energy and effort in improving/augmenting your app for your paying customers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Using v4 Fragments with v11 ActionBar tabs
As far as I know, you can't use the ActionBar pre-Honeycomb anyway. So you wouldn't have a scenario in which you'd be able to use the ActionBar unless you're targeting Honeycomb. And to clarify, I don't know much, so I could be completely wrong. :) -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Dave Johnston john...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble implementing ActionBar tabs whilst also using backward-compatible Fragments (with the compatibility package). The main issue being that ActionBar.TabListener expects android.app.Fragment, and my Fragment classes inherit from android.support.v4.app.Fragment. Therefore I can't use my Fragments with the ActionBar on 3.0-and-later devices. Anyone have any ideas how I can solve or work around this? (besides just not using tabs) -dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Android 3.0 ActionBar, changing colors
How can I change the color of the underline beneath the tabs? It's currently the light blue, and I can't find any resources on how to change this for Android 3.0. Additionally, I'd like to change the text color for the menu items that show up on the right of the ActionBar as a result of: android:showAsAction=ifRoom|withText. Anyone know how to change these? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Layouts Are Horrible
I lol'd... +1 -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:30 AM, nation-x shawn.payme...@gmail.com wrote: I lol'd... On Apr 5, 8:25 am, Craigbtx craig...@austin.rr.com wrote: I agree with Dirk and others. After using Microsofts development environment, Visual Studio and asp.net for me, there is no reason to code database connections, html tables of data etc., sql update, delete and insert commands. If you know them that is great and it is helpful. But by having a full mature visual development environment you can concentrate on the application and not the code, unless necessary. I have developed a fully functional asp.net application with 53 database driven pages with lists and forms with full insert update and delete capabilities, full security with logins, retrieve passwords, create new users all in 2 weeks. No code! Later we added business rules and error trapping but what a head start. If needed then you dig into code but use the built in mature tools to the fullest. I had a problem once and got answers of 150 lines of code. The solution was 1 line of code. We do not need to reinvent the wheel on every application. Thirty years ago we had database application software that didn't require you to code database connections, insert, deletes and update statements, button clicks etc. I hope we have progressed farther that that. Eclipse is the best visual environment for Android code but far from Microsofts Visual Studio development environment. Ever seen app_inventor, visual environment from Google? Interesting. I wonder if it will ever be released? It may be too visual and maybe no as powerful, butinteresting none the less. On Apr 5, 1:19 am, dirk dhaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hold on a minute. I really don't care the least bit about underlying code, that is, the XML that's generated by a really good design tool. Saying you should have to learn the XML (in this case) is like saying you have to learn the bytecode that's generated from the java code. Sure, you always need understand the structure, but with good tools, you can _focus_ on the structure and not worry about the details. On Apr 4, 7:01 pm, Robert rcope...@gmail.com wrote: Layout is part of development. Having tools to help with that are aids but should not be used as an excuse not to learn the underlying code. THe designer tools only generate the structures based on the rules programmed into them. You will always have a more detailed level of control by going to the lowest level available. Learn it and it'll make you a better developer and your programs to be more efficient. Using the higher level tools makes you only as efficient at they are. Yes, it takes time and yes you have to learn it but that's what being a real developer is all about. Robert- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Layouts Are Horrible
At the end of the day, it comes down to an allocation of resources on Google's part. I'd much rather have them spending time innovating Android, it's APIs, the Android Market, and so forth, rather than building a better GUI editor because people don't want to put in the time to learn how to do it. There are beautiful user experiences on the Android platform -- so it's a matter of putting away the hold my hand mentality of Visual Studio and learning how it's done. Would I like a better editor? Of course. But not at the expense, or opportunity cost, of innovating in more compelling areas of Android. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: I lol'd... +1 -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:30 AM, nation-x shawn.payme...@gmail.comwrote: I lol'd... On Apr 5, 8:25 am, Craigbtx craig...@austin.rr.com wrote: I agree with Dirk and others. After using Microsofts development environment, Visual Studio and asp.net for me, there is no reason to code database connections, html tables of data etc., sql update, delete and insert commands. If you know them that is great and it is helpful. But by having a full mature visual development environment you can concentrate on the application and not the code, unless necessary. I have developed a fully functional asp.net application with 53 database driven pages with lists and forms with full insert update and delete capabilities, full security with logins, retrieve passwords, create new users all in 2 weeks. No code! Later we added business rules and error trapping but what a head start. If needed then you dig into code but use the built in mature tools to the fullest. I had a problem once and got answers of 150 lines of code. The solution was 1 line of code. We do not need to reinvent the wheel on every application. Thirty years ago we had database application software that didn't require you to code database connections, insert, deletes and update statements, button clicks etc. I hope we have progressed farther that that. Eclipse is the best visual environment for Android code but far from Microsofts Visual Studio development environment. Ever seen app_inventor, visual environment from Google? Interesting. I wonder if it will ever be released? It may be too visual and maybe no as powerful, butinteresting none the less. On Apr 5, 1:19 am, dirk dhaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hold on a minute. I really don't care the least bit about underlying code, that is, the XML that's generated by a really good design tool. Saying you should have to learn the XML (in this case) is like saying you have to learn the bytecode that's generated from the java code. Sure, you always need understand the structure, but with good tools, you can _focus_ on the structure and not worry about the details. On Apr 4, 7:01 pm, Robert rcope...@gmail.com wrote: Layout is part of development. Having tools to help with that are aids but should not be used as an excuse not to learn the underlying code. THe designer tools only generate the structures based on the rules programmed into them. You will always have a more detailed level of control by going to the lowest level available. Learn it and it'll make you a better developer and your programs to be more efficient. Using the higher level tools makes you only as efficient at they are. Yes, it takes time and yes you have to learn it but that's what being a real developer is all about. Robert- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Android Layouts Are Horrible
I stick to writing my layouts by hand, as it's something that's not terrible once you spend some time learning how to do it. I felt overwhelmed at first too, but the more of it you do the better you get at it. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:51 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM, grndvl1 grnd...@gmail.com wrote: Why is it I spend more time dealing with the layout of items than the actual coding of the program? Maybe you don't know what you're doing or haven't spent enough time with the tool to use it properly? The Eclipse Graphical Layout tool really blows as it has a ton of errors and can't handle simple things like italic text in textview, scrollviews... The ADT developers are pretty active on this list and are very responsive useful, valid, constructive criticism. It blows is not really useful. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Layout spacing question
I have a ScrollView, in a fragment, which takes up the remaining width of the screen. There are two fragments that proceed this fragment on the left side of the screen. What I'd like to do is add another layout to the right of the ScrollView that only takes up a small amount of width and hugs the right side of the screen, and effectively lets the ScrollView take up what's left. I've done things like set the ScrollView's marginRight to 10dp and similar to leave some space for the final layout, but it doesn't seem to work. I've tried searching for similar scenarios but maybe I just haven't found the right keyword combination to yield the results I'm after. Does this ring any bells for anyone? Any insight would be helpful, thanks. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Layout spacing question
Thanks Mark, I'll give those a shot tonight. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: I have a ScrollView, in a fragment, which takes up the remaining width of the screen. There are two fragments that proceed this fragment on the left side of the screen. What I'd like to do is add another layout to the right of the ScrollView that only takes up a small amount of width and hugs the right side of the screen, and effectively lets the ScrollView take up what's left. I've done things like set the ScrollView's marginRight to 10dp and similar to leave some space for the final layout, but it doesn't seem to work. I've tried searching for similar scenarios but maybe I just haven't found the right keyword combination to yield the results I'm after. Does this ring any bells for anyone? Any insight would be helpful, thanks. Wrap the ScrollView in a RelativeLayout, anchor your right thingy to the right/top/bottom, and anchor your ScrollView to the left/top/bottom + the right thingy. Or, wrap the ScrollView in a LinearLayout, assign it 0px width but a weight of 1, and put the right thingy after it. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android Training in London: http://bit.ly/smand1, http://bit.ly/smand2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Feedback links for each market app
I've had functionality in my app that gives the user an easy way to provide feedback to the Android Market, and additionally get a button to click for updates when they're available. Now that we're support both the Android Market and the Amazon Appstore, we need to be able to manage both of those for these scenarios. My app was rejected by Amazon because the link was going to the Android Market and not their own. Besides removing that functionality from my app, which I'd like to avoid, is there a way to distinguish which app store my app was downloaded from at runtime? Or, is there an intent I can fire that both respond to, and if so, are any of you using that and getting through the Amazon approval process? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Feedback links for each market app
Others accomplish the same thing with a compile-time flag they flip between generating the two APKs, which works fine too. Good idea. I'll go that route. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:45 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:33 PM, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.comwrote: Others accomplish the same thing with a compile-time flag they flip between generating the two APKs, which works fine too. That's what I do. Takes an extra 30 seconds. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Getting a Google Account token to use for Google Reader calls?
I've found various sources online trying to do this but every example I found hasn't worked for me. Most simply return 401 errors from the server. I've gotten the auth token needed to make the calls from the local accounts on the phone and I've also tried making the ClientLogin call specifically with my username and password, and either way they're returning 401s. So, has anyone been successful in getting unread Google Reader posts? Extra credit if you're doing it without having to handle a user's Google Account credentials first hand, but are doing it through allowed permissions. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] New tablet-specific area in the Market
I've noticed that the Market now has a tablet-specific section that will show 48-50 apps if you click into it. I've actually seen the number change from 48 to 50 throughout today. It leads me to believe that list is being automatically updated based on apps that are effectively tablet friendly. I know we're very much left in the dark as to how some of those things work, but does anyone have any insight as to how this list works? In my manifest file, I have min and target API level at 11 and the xlarge screen supported. Although, I didn't go in an explicitly reject the other sizes which I should probably do. I know there aren't many Honeycomb specific apps out there yet, so I've been checking to see if my app might show up on that list at some point. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] New tablet-specific area in the Market
Right, and that was my assumption. If they're actually being picked by a human, then yeah I wouldn't assume someone would spill how that works. But, if they're being automatically updated based on apps that are set to be Honeycomb specific, that's what I was hoping to gain insight to assuming anyone would know if that's the case. As far as I can tell, that view is the only way to say show me tablet apps. You can't see them by category, or really in any other form, so I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit if there really are only about 50 of them available on the Market at this point. If that's the case, I would hope there's some automatic way that view is being updated as new Honeycomb-specific apps are being released. Until there's enough to justify the category and hand-picked featured system we see for the phone apps. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: I know we're very much left in the dark as to how some of those things work, but does anyone have any insight as to how this list works? If you're talking about the Featured Apps for Tablets section on the website, then the answer is probably the same as the old Featured section: no one here knows how they're picked and the people that do aren't going to tell you. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] New tablet-specific area in the Market
Sadly, very true. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:36 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: But, if they're being automatically updated based on apps that are set to be Honeycomb specific, that's what I was hoping to gain insight to assuming anyone would know if that's the case. Just going on the fact that it's called Featured, I'd say they're being hand picked. But again, this is one of those Market mysteries that we'll never get any insight on so ... - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Screen Sizes and Densities
So I guess I'm just imagining all those tablets. In many ways, you are. Just ask Motorola... :o But seriously, I don't know of any concrete numbers. The best we could do for you is a Google search or to share statistics from our own apps with you. Not sure the latter is what you're after as most of our apps aren't mega popular and therefore aren't covering the general landscape of the market. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:41 PM, William Ferguson william.ferguson.au@ gmail.com wrote: *Bump* Surely there is some more recent info on screen sizing than Aug 2010. According to this, it looks like there are no large or extra-large screens. So I guess I'm just imagining all those tablets. This document is referenced in Supporting Screen Sizes in the developer doco. Which is istelf a little behind the times as it makes no reference to the WXGA skin that shipped with the 3.0 emulator update. On Mar 14, 8:38 pm, William Ferguson william.ferguson...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any better data on the ratio ofscreensizesanddensities than http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/screens.html which was last updated on 2 August 2010? William -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Odd behavior with library projects in Eclipse
I have a main library project that I use with two of my apps. Lately I've noticed some odd behavior from Eclipse, or possibly my Mercurial plug-in, where it will delete the src directory from my library project at random. The first time that happened I almost fell over, but quickly realized all of my code is being stored remotely in Mercurial repositories. I quick force update gets everything back in order. This has happened a number of times in the last few days and I'm just wondering if anyone else on here as experienced similar. I've really just had a lot of weird issues lately with Eclipse and my Android projects. I tried to open/import an existing Android project and could never get it to work. I had to recreate the project from scratch and copy in the code/files to get it working again. Just the oddest stuff. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!
Is anyone noticing a sales jump from the Amazon store? I know it's early and hard to really judge for long term. However, with the launch getting so much buzz, I would expect people to be getting decent downloads relative to their Market numbers. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Gregg Reno gregg.r...@gmail.com wrote: Have you all noticed a big discrepancy between the order counts on the Amazon AppStore home dashboard and what is shown in the Reports page? The counts for me on the home page are about one third of what shows in the reports page -Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Releasing a tablet-only application
I'm close to releasing a tablet-only application and I'm wondering what steps I need to take to ensure it's only available to Android 3.0 devices. Is it really a matter of setting the minimum SDK level to 11? When the next version of Android comes out that has an SDK level of 12, but it's only for tablets, how will I need to change my manifest to hide the app from phones? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Releasing a tablet-only application
Thanks for the replies. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:51 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: Is it really a matter of setting the minimum SDK level to 11? No, that determines the platform you're available on. For now that's HoneyComb and for now that's tablets only, but I wouldn't rely on that. Use the supports-screens element of the manifest and indicate the screen type you want to support (however you define a tablet). - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] PHP Support or not
Android runs native code written in the Java language. If you want to build web-based apps for Android (and all mobile in that case), I would focus on building web apps that run on web servers which can be consumed by the phones and other mobile devices. You can't run PHP code natively in Android. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:56 PM, rishabh agrawal android.rish...@gmail.comwrote: In the android O.S,I want develope web bassed apps.i am a beginner in this field.so plz suggest me PHP is give me help when i create web based apps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Amazon Appmarket is now open!
I really don't like _how_ you have to get the Appstore app itself. I suppose that's because it's an Appstore within the Market itself. Asking users to enable unknown sources doesn't seem like a good idea. I bet my mom would be confused as hell over this. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.comwrote: On 22 March 2011 13:43, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! Or maybe not awesome...they have a Test Drive Now feature that opens up a web based emulator to run your app for 30 minutes as a trial. Where exactly did you spot that feature? Regards, Marcin Orlowski Tray Agenda http://bit.ly/trayagenda - keep you daily schedule handy... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Amazon Appmarket is now open!
I really just wish that Google would bite the bullet and implement some of the much needed features for the Android Market. I'm not unhappy with what's there and I know the individuals are putting in serious effort, so I don't want my comment to come off as a snub to those developers. I really hate the idea of managing two app stores, not only for myself but for consumers. If the Android Market was where I think a lot of us believe it should be, Amazon wouldn't have even seen an opportunity in building their own market. Competition is great and all, but in the end it's simply going to make us spend time thinking about app stores and not our apps. I think that's a problem. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.comwrote: Awesome! Or maybe not awesome...they have a Test Drive Now feature that opens up a web based emulator to run your app for 30 minutes as a trial. Where exactly did you spot that feature? I just looked up one of my apps Word Mix. Below the pricing information there was a big green button saying Test Drive Now. I was in Chrome when I saw this. Doesn't look like it is for all apps. I would say that it is a developer feature, but I'm not signed in to my developer Amazon account when I see it. It's pretty slick, but laggy with button presses. Hm, I do not see anythink like that for app you named - make sure you wasn't logged. Regards, Marcin Orlowski Tray Agenda http://bit.ly/trayagenda - keep you daily schedule handy... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Amazon Appmarket is now open!
Do you guy's apps have the original descriptions and bullet points you submitted? It seems like Amazon just wrote their own marketing descriptions ... Wow. I just noticed that mine was modified as well. It actually make it sound more polished, but some of the concepts are wrong. Unbelievable. Or, maybe I shouldn't be surprised #iwanttheandroidmarket -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:09 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: Do you guy's apps have the original descriptions and bullet points you submitted? It seems like Amazon just wrote their own marketing descriptions ... Wow. I just noticed that mine was modified as well. It actually make it sound more polished, but some of the concepts are wrong. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: ideal system configuration for developing Android 3 apps
Honestly, if you have any serious intention of developing for Android 3.0, you need to forget about the emulator. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:28 AM, j.s. mammen mamm...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, here is what I did to make the Android 3 emulator slightly more usable: - increased emulator vm.heap to 256 from 49 - reduced the resolution to 1024x768, default was much higher - emulator ram to 512 (tried 1024 but it crashed ) - also increased the eclipse vm to 1024 Its slightly more faster than before!!! On Mar 22, 5:02 pm, j.s. mammen mamm...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mark for your suggestion. According to the API, the default is 96MB RAM which I am not sure applies to all versions of API. I will try your suggestions and other hardware options mentioned in API and update this thread. -jm On Mar 22, 4:23 pm, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com wrote: Actually, bumping the RAM helps a bit. hw.ramSize (Device RAM size) of 1024, if you have enough memory on your development machine, does improve performance. It is still fairly dreadful, but I couldn't even get it to boot with whatever the default was. On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:19 AM, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.com wrote: I think the point is that the Honeycomb emulator is abominable on every configuration that anyone's reported. Even Google has admitted that it's really bad. AFAIK, nobody's reported any success with improving the situation by tweaking settings, either. Why don't you do that, and let us know what you find? String -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com| http://github.com/commonsguyhttp://commonsware.com/blog|http://twitter.com/commonsguy _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 3.5 Available!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] TextView at the bottom of a Layout, like a status bar of sorts
I'm working on a Honeycomb app and I'd like to have a scrolling ticker at the bottom of the screen. I did something similar with a phone app, where I effectively had a LinearLayout that took up the bottom of the screen and contained a TextView inside of it. I attempted to reuse that code in this situation and couldn't get the Layout or TextView to display. The only real differences here are the use of Android 3.0 and fragments in the layout file. Unfortunately I'm at work, so I'm unable to post the specific code in question. But, I wanted to see if anyone has already encountered this while working with Android 3.0/fragments or if you've seen an example somewhere online I can explore for answers. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Gmail loading spinner in Honeycomb
In the Gmail client for Honeycomb, I've noticed that when you select an email there's a brief blue progress circle that spins while the content is loaded in the content fragment. I'd like to implement similar functionality for a WebView fragment in my app. Is this something available to the rest of the system, or was it specifically built into the Gmail client? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: TextView at the bottom of a Layout, like a status bar of sorts
I wanted to follow up on this question. I got it working tonight by using RelativeLayout. The overall design is as such: RelativeLayout -- LinearLayout -- Fragment A -- Fragment B -- Fragment C -- /LinearLayout -- RelativeLayout (with android:layout_alignParentBottom=true) -- TextView -- /RelativeLayout /RelativeLayout -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: I'm working on a Honeycomb app and I'd like to have a scrolling ticker at the bottom of the screen. I did something similar with a phone app, where I effectively had a LinearLayout that took up the bottom of the screen and contained a TextView inside of it. I attempted to reuse that code in this situation and couldn't get the Layout or TextView to display. The only real differences here are the use of Android 3.0 and fragments in the layout file. Unfortunately I'm at work, so I'm unable to post the specific code in question. But, I wanted to see if anyone has already encountered this while working with Android 3.0/fragments or if you've seen an example somewhere online I can explore for answers. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Service stops after 10 minutes of standby
As Nick mentioned, you'll want to look into a wake lock. I would highly recommend Mark's implementation with WakefulIntentService ( https://github.com/commonsguy/cwac-wakeful). I'm using it in my app with no issues at all. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Roger Podacter rogerpodac...@gmail.comwrote: I think there is something extra that needs to be added to keep your service running in deep sleep standby. Cause my service also stops running on my nexus one once the phone goes into deep sleep. My service actually takes 2 second sample readings of battery current so it would be nice to see standby readings. On Mar 21, 8:05 pm, Nick Kulikaev nkulik...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You probably need to obtain a wake lock to keep your service running if you want to stick to the design you've already made, but i guess what you are trying to do could be also done with alarm manager which can wake you up whenever you want. This can save you some battery. Nick On Mar 21, 1:56 am, stefan jakober stefan.jako...@gmail.com wrote: Hey there, I've got a wired problem. I've got a tracking service which sends geo- data to a server every 5 seconds. When I run this service on the HTC Wildfire, there are no problems at all (even when the phone goes standby), but when I use the HTC Desire, the service seems to stop after 10 minutes standby though there is no problem with the service when the phone's active. I will try to figure out the problem with testing some other phones, but you guys might have an idea where the problem is and I would be so thankful for every kind of help. I'm stuck on this problem for weeks. thank you stefan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Can somebody suggest the best book or online resource for beginning android apps development?
I sound like a fanboy, and I suppose it's true in many ways, but I would recommend Mark's books on Android development: http://commonsware.com. In addition to the books, he's here on the list constantly with a number of other helpful regulars providing great information. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:39 PM, sogan xie soga...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.android.com/ On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Narendra Padala checksumandr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Flocks, Can somebody suggest the best book or online resource for beginning android apps development? Regard's Narendra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- B.R. Sogan.X Mail:soga...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Application Sold to 100,000 Users
Individual Developer may not have that much resources as a company have. not only for marketing but also a work done by individual and a Team might result in a concrete application. I guess...so I must interject here... :) From experience, I can say very confidently that a single developer with a genuine passion for building apps can do fantastic work if not better than your typical, or even solid, corporate team can. Frankly, doing this is more fun than an average day at work. These apps line our individual pockets with customer dollars and we put serious effort into making them the best they can be. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:59 PM, varinag gold varinagg...@gmail.comwrote: What difference does it make? Individual Developer may not have that much resources as a company have. not only for marketing but also a work done by individual and a Team might result in a concrete application. I guess...so On Mar 21, 11:37 am, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:18 PM, varinag gold varinagg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to know if any one of you (Individual Developer) have crossed this limit to sell android application to 100,000 users? If so how long it took to cross this limit . What difference does it make? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Android Development Kit
You'll want to start here for the SDK and tools: http://developer.android.com/index.html. This list is a good place for well thought out questions. General or vague questions will likely go unanswered. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Samir Ghodasara ghodasarasa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi , I am a new user of Android and searching for the Android development board kit, in Google i can find some names/vendors but not on the Android developer website. Searching for some info/doc to get the concrete information (which one is good ) for Android.basic tutorials for start-up. We wanted to build our own Android tablet device with very specific application and theme , start-up screen customization. Could you tell me the best way to start and which way to proceed on this. Thanks in Advance. Regards, Samir. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: installing sdk
What version of Eclipse are you using? Did you start with this page (http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html), download the package, and follow the steps below? Then, proceed to the SDK install page (http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing.html)? Which step are you stuck at? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:38 PM, learner1980 vipul.bahug...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I have recently downloaded the SDK starter pack 'android-sdk_r10- windows' for Android development. I have Windows Vista OS. But now when I am starting the SDK Manager to install the Platform tools i am getting the below erorrs - XML verification failed for https://dl-ssl.google.com/android/repository/repository.xml. Line -१:-१, Error: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: schema_reference.4: Failed to read schema document 'null', because 1) could not find the document; 2) the document could not be read; 3) the root element of the document is not . XML verification failed for https://dl-ssl.google.com/android/repository/addons_list.xml. Line -१:-१, Error: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: schema_reference.4: Failed to read schema document 'null', because 1) could not find the document; 2) the document could not be read; 3) the root element of the document is not . I also tried the Force settings in Settings - Misc, but it too didn't help. Can someone throw some pointers. I am a bit stuck as I have downloaded the Starter pack and not able to figure out what could be wrong. Thanks in advance. On Feb 26, 2:49 am, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 February 2011 14:46, Ashwin Menkudle ashwinmenku...@gmail.com wrote: i am trying to install addon after install of sdk. i am behind firewall there is no support for https See settings Tag, 1st checkbox -- Regards, Marcin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: TextView at the bottom of a Layout, like a status bar of sorts
The only point is that's what I've found to work, nothing more. Perhaps I'm not doing it correctly, but it's like pulling teeth trying to get layouts to work like I want them to, so when I find something that works I'm hard pressed to sit there for hours trying to optimize it 100%. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Justin Anderson magouyaw...@gmail.comwrote: Maybe it is just me, but what is the point of putting a LinearLayout inside a RelativeLayout? And for that matter, what is the point of having a RelativeLayout inside another RelativeLayout that contains only a single view? I don't know really know what the requirements of your app, but you should be able to achieve the same thing with just a single RelativeLayout and all your other fragments/views inside of that... One of the big advantages of RelativeLayout is that there is less need for nesting layouts... Thanks, Justin Anderson MagouyaWare Developer http://sites.google.com/site/magouyaware On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: I wanted to follow up on this question. I got it working tonight by using RelativeLayout. The overall design is as such: RelativeLayout -- LinearLayout -- Fragment A -- Fragment B -- Fragment C -- /LinearLayout -- RelativeLayout (with android:layout_alignParentBottom=true) -- TextView -- /RelativeLayout /RelativeLayout -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: I'm working on a Honeycomb app and I'd like to have a scrolling ticker at the bottom of the screen. I did something similar with a phone app, where I effectively had a LinearLayout that took up the bottom of the screen and contained a TextView inside of it. I attempted to reuse that code in this situation and couldn't get the Layout or TextView to display. The only real differences here are the use of Android 3.0 and fragments in the layout file. Unfortunately I'm at work, so I'm unable to post the specific code in question. But, I wanted to see if anyone has already encountered this while working with Android 3.0/fragments or if you've seen an example somewhere online I can explore for answers. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] A WebView inside of a fragment
I'm trying to get a hook to a WebView in my layout and it's coming back null
each time. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here?
WebViewFragment.java
public class WebViewFragment extends Fragment
{
private View mContentView;
@Override
public View onCreateView(LayoutInflater inflater, ViewGroup container,
Bundle savedInstanceState)
{
mContentView = inflater.inflate(R.layout.web_view_fragment, null);
return mContentView;
}
@Override
public void onActivityCreated(Bundle savedInstanceState)
{
super.onActivityCreated(savedInstanceState);
WebView webview = (WebView)mContentView.findViewById(R.id.webview);
// use webview to set url...
}
}
web_view_fragment.xml
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
LinearLayout xmlns:android=http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android;
android:orientation=horizontal
android:layout_width=match_parent
android:layout_height=match_parent
WebView
android:id=@+id/webview
android:layout_width=fill_parent
android:layout_height=fill_parent
android:layout_weight=2 /
/LinearLayout
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Re: [android-developers] Re: How is your sales model changing with the introduction of Android 3.0 and tablets, or is it?
Q: What *does* happen to a standard app run on the Xoom? Does it scale like on the iPad or does it actually run the app normally, just on a much bigger screen so you have a lot more whitespace and UI gaps? Or is the issue the added UIs for the new app management/task-switching and all that? It will scale it up to the full screen size of your device, which leads to a lot of whitespace in most apps including mine. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Riyad Kalla rka...@gmail.com wrote: Agree on #1; this is how every iPhone/iPad app does it and so far the iOS ecosystem seems to be doing just fine. I've rebought apps on my iPad to get the HD versions of them and expected to repay; it was a bummer, but I didn't lose sleep over it. I think the analogy to DVD/ Blu-ray was pretty much spot-on; if you want two copies, go for it. Q: What *does* happen to a standard app run on the Xoom? Does it scale like on the iPad or does it actually run the app normally, just on a much bigger screen so you have a lot more whitespace and UI gaps? Or is the issue the added UIs for the new app management/task-switching and all that? On Mar 19, 2:42 pm, Alessio Grumiro a.grum...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it depends by your application, but i think it is better #1. You have to manage 2 different applications: phone version and tablet version. Consider environments: you can read football news on your mobile phone while your are on bus. Usually you use tablet in office or at home, so your are sitted, no noise, more concentration. No consider if your user has, already, payed for phone version. 2011/3/19 Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com In many ways, using the compat framework makes me a little nervous. The ApiDemo I looked at had an overarching Activity that managed two fragments and while it was a simple example and only had a few is landscape, do two fragments, else, do one, I can imagine a real world app being far more complicated to migrate to that model. I'm curious how many have taken the approach of having both modes in one app. I would love to hear some experiences from having made this migration to the compat framework. On Mar 19, 2011 4:10 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have any comments on this quote from me? I do think it's important to note that if you follow approach #1, users that purchased your app will still have access to it on the tablet, it just won't be tailored to that device's experience. I'm not sure that asking them to pay for the additional work you put into a tablet version is a bad thing. It works that way on the iPad, with no issues. I think having a separate tablet version that costs more, if that's what you want to do, is fine. It's like selling a DVD and BluRay copy of a movie - same product, different platform, where one costs more because it's bigger and better. If you want both, you have to pay for both. And if user is *really* unhappy about this, you can just refund their original phone version purchase and have them keep the tablet version, so they're only paying the difference (as was mentioned earlier) for the upgrade. Do it, go. --- -- TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
Re: [android-developers] A WebView inside of a fragment
Thanks for linking your example. I'm getting a reference to the WebView now
with:
WebView webview = (WebView)(getView().findViewById(R.id.webview));
It's not loading my web page just yet, but that's next. :o
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote:
Well, you can definitely use WebView in fragments:
https://github.com/commonsguy/cw-android/tree/master/Fragments/EU4You_6
My best guess is that the fragment is not yet attached to the view
hierarchy by then. Since you get the same Bundle in both places, you
may just want to move your loadURL() or whatever call to
onCreateView().
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm trying to get a hook to a WebView in my layout and it's coming back
null
each time. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here?
WebViewFragment.java
public class WebViewFragment extends Fragment
{
private View mContentView;
@Override
public View onCreateView(LayoutInflater inflater, ViewGroup
container,
Bundle savedInstanceState)
{
mContentView = inflater.inflate(R.layout.web_view_fragment,
null);
return mContentView;
}
@Override
public void onActivityCreated(Bundle savedInstanceState)
{
super.onActivityCreated(savedInstanceState);
WebView webview =
(WebView)mContentView.findViewById(R.id.webview);
// use webview to set url...
}
}
web_view_fragment.xml
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
LinearLayout xmlns:android=http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android;
android:orientation=horizontal
android:layout_width=match_parent
android:layout_height=match_parent
WebView
android:id=@+id/webview
android:layout_width=fill_parent
android:layout_height=fill_parent
android:layout_weight=2 /
/LinearLayout
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Re: [android-developers] A WebView inside of a fragment
So, apparently, having the Internet permission is kind of important for what
I'm trying to do. :o It's been quite awhile since I've started an Android
project from scratch...
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks for linking your example. I'm getting a reference to the WebView
now with:
WebView webview = (WebView)(getView().findViewById(R.id.webview));
It's not loading my web page just yet, but that's next. :o
--
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http://chriswstewart.com
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote:
Well, you can definitely use WebView in fragments:
https://github.com/commonsguy/cw-android/tree/master/Fragments/EU4You_6
My best guess is that the fragment is not yet attached to the view
hierarchy by then. Since you get the same Bundle in both places, you
may just want to move your loadURL() or whatever call to
onCreateView().
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm trying to get a hook to a WebView in my layout and it's coming back
null
each time. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here?
WebViewFragment.java
public class WebViewFragment extends Fragment
{
private View mContentView;
@Override
public View onCreateView(LayoutInflater inflater, ViewGroup
container,
Bundle savedInstanceState)
{
mContentView = inflater.inflate(R.layout.web_view_fragment,
null);
return mContentView;
}
@Override
public void onActivityCreated(Bundle savedInstanceState)
{
super.onActivityCreated(savedInstanceState);
WebView webview =
(WebView)mContentView.findViewById(R.id.webview);
// use webview to set url...
}
}
web_view_fragment.xml
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
LinearLayout xmlns:android=http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android
android:orientation=horizontal
android:layout_width=match_parent
android:layout_height=match_parent
WebView
android:id=@+id/webview
android:layout_width=fill_parent
android:layout_height=fill_parent
android:layout_weight=2 /
/LinearLayout
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[android-developers] Self contained ProgressDialog in ListFragment?
I have a ListFragment which loads data in a background thread and shows a ProgressDialog while it loads. I'm wondering if I can make that dialog contained to just that fragment so the user can keep doing things in the other fragments. Is this doable? Currently, the dialog blocks all interaction with the UI. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: How is your sales model changing with the introduction of Android 3.0 and tablets, or is it?
Anyone have any comments on this quote from me? I do think it's important to note that if you follow approach #1, users that purchased your app will still have access to it on the tablet, it just won't be tailored to that device's experience. I'm not sure that asking them to pay for the additional work you put into a tablet version is a bad thing. It works that way on the iPad, with no issues. I'm really quite curious. I think it's a big deal right now as the Android tablets are in their infancy and this market is just beginning. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for the replies. It's interesting to see how different devs are handling this. I do think it's important to note that if you follow approach #1, users that purchased your app will still have access to it on the tablet, it just won't be tailored to that device's experience. I'm not sure that asking them to pay for the additional work you put into a tablet version is a bad thing. It works that way on the iPad, with no issues. I'm leaning more towards option #2, but I'm a little worried about managing the different views in a single application. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: For a game, #1 probably makes more sense. For a productivity app for which the user had already paid $10 for, #2 probably is a better option, unless you want to piss off your users. On Mar 18, 4:00 pm, Christer Nordvik cnord...@gmail.com wrote: I am thinking about #1 since you can always slap on a HD at the end like Angry App HD and charge the users more. At least that's the standard practice on iPad. But then you have to have some extra features (or just better graphics) on the HD version of your app. My main problem is that the Xoom doesn't give the tablet-only apps any special treatment so it will probably be drowned in other apps and doesn't take advantage of current rankings of your app. -Christer On Mar 18, 5:44 am, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I am going with route #2, and I haven't had too many problems up till now. The major stumbling block I see in the business side of things is that I cannot charge more for a Tablet version than I can for the phone version, even though the usuability can be much greater on the tablet version. Option #1 is not the best, as you pointed out, you cannot force the users to pay twice. I can see forcing them to pay the difference in price if they upgrade to a tablet, but to make them buy the app all over is a huge no-no and you would end up with some very unhappy users -- and rightfully so. I think there needs to be a way to set price points based on the form factor of the device. Hopefully, the Amazon market will have this feature. On Mar 18, 12:13 pm, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Now that I'm working on a tablet-centric version of my app, I'm considering how it will impact my existing application in the Market. As far as I can see it, there are two ways this can go: 1) Leave your existing app as-is in the Market. Build a tablet version taking full advantage of Android 3.0, setting your minSdk to 11, using your existing code base (as applicable) as a library to share core code, and sell the apps independent of each other. Here you'll need to manage two code bases, even if only the UI side which we all know varies greatly from app to app. You're also requiring users to purchase twice effectively, assuming they want the app on both their phone and the tablet-centric version on their tablet. I guess the phone version would still work on the tablet, just not optimized for it. 2) Integrate fragments into your existing application and bundle in the tablet version along with the phone version. You'll need to drop support for Android 1.5 for the compatibility library, work around API differences between the phone and tablet APIs at run-time, and handle your UI activities and views differently between platforms. I'm not sure about that last part -- but it seems like with such a different UI concept behind 3.0 with the Action Bar and the general flow of an application can be so different, that you might need to break that apart. Could be very wrong there however and would love for someone to show me otherwise. There are a few things at play here. It's the battle on the technical side of dealing with different applications (package names, projects in Eclipse, apks, etc). It's also bringing into question how you want to manage your app; whether you want to charge for a tablet-optimized version or include it with the phone app someone has already purchased. Depending on what I learn related
Re: [android-developers] Re: How is your sales model changing with the introduction of Android 3.0 and tablets, or is it?
In many ways, using the compat framework makes me a little nervous. The ApiDemo I looked at had an overarching Activity that managed two fragments and while it was a simple example and only had a few is landscape, do two fragments, else, do one, I can imagine a real world app being far more complicated to migrate to that model. I'm curious how many have taken the approach of having both modes in one app. I would love to hear some experiences from having made this migration to the compat framework. On Mar 19, 2011 4:10 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have any comments on this quote from me? I do think it's important to note that if you follow approach #1, users that purchased your app will still have access to it on the tablet, it just won't be tailored to that device's experience. I'm not sure that asking them to pay for the additional work you put into a tablet version is a bad thing. It works that way on the iPad, with no issues. I think having a separate tablet version that costs more, if that's what you want to do, is fine. It's like selling a DVD and BluRay copy of a movie - same product, different platform, where one costs more because it's bigger and better. If you want both, you have to pay for both. And if user is *really* unhappy about this, you can just refund their original phone version purchase and have them keep the tablet version, so they're only paying the difference (as was mentioned earlier) for the upgrade. Do it, go. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Have you implemented fragments into a pre-3.0 app?
I'm evaluating how to create a tablet-centric app from my existing Android application, whether I want to use fragments with the existing activities I have or create two separate apps and go deep into Android 3.0 with the tablet edition. I'm curious if any of you have spent time to refactor an existing application to take advantage of fragments, and also provide a tablet focused UI for when it's being used on a tablet. I have a good 25 activities currently and it feels like going through and refactoring everything will be quite difficult. I'm hoping I'm wrong and that someone has had a good experience they'd like to share. :) -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: How is your sales model changing with the introduction of Android 3.0 and tablets, or is it?
Thanks for the replies. It's interesting to see how different devs are handling this. I do think it's important to note that if you follow approach #1, users that purchased your app will still have access to it on the tablet, it just won't be tailored to that device's experience. I'm not sure that asking them to pay for the additional work you put into a tablet version is a bad thing. It works that way on the iPad, with no issues. I'm leaning more towards option #2, but I'm a little worried about managing the different views in a single application. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: For a game, #1 probably makes more sense. For a productivity app for which the user had already paid $10 for, #2 probably is a better option, unless you want to piss off your users. On Mar 18, 4:00 pm, Christer Nordvik cnord...@gmail.com wrote: I am thinking about #1 since you can always slap on a HD at the end like Angry App HD and charge the users more. At least that's the standard practice on iPad. But then you have to have some extra features (or just better graphics) on the HD version of your app. My main problem is that the Xoom doesn't give the tablet-only apps any special treatment so it will probably be drowned in other apps and doesn't take advantage of current rankings of your app. -Christer On Mar 18, 5:44 am, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: I am going with route #2, and I haven't had too many problems up till now. The major stumbling block I see in the business side of things is that I cannot charge more for a Tablet version than I can for the phone version, even though the usuability can be much greater on the tablet version. Option #1 is not the best, as you pointed out, you cannot force the users to pay twice. I can see forcing them to pay the difference in price if they upgrade to a tablet, but to make them buy the app all over is a huge no-no and you would end up with some very unhappy users -- and rightfully so. I think there needs to be a way to set price points based on the form factor of the device. Hopefully, the Amazon market will have this feature. On Mar 18, 12:13 pm, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Now that I'm working on a tablet-centric version of my app, I'm considering how it will impact my existing application in the Market. As far as I can see it, there are two ways this can go: 1) Leave your existing app as-is in the Market. Build a tablet version taking full advantage of Android 3.0, setting your minSdk to 11, using your existing code base (as applicable) as a library to share core code, and sell the apps independent of each other. Here you'll need to manage two code bases, even if only the UI side which we all know varies greatly from app to app. You're also requiring users to purchase twice effectively, assuming they want the app on both their phone and the tablet-centric version on their tablet. I guess the phone version would still work on the tablet, just not optimized for it. 2) Integrate fragments into your existing application and bundle in the tablet version along with the phone version. You'll need to drop support for Android 1.5 for the compatibility library, work around API differences between the phone and tablet APIs at run-time, and handle your UI activities and views differently between platforms. I'm not sure about that last part -- but it seems like with such a different UI concept behind 3.0 with the Action Bar and the general flow of an application can be so different, that you might need to break that apart. Could be very wrong there however and would love for someone to show me otherwise. There are a few things at play here. It's the battle on the technical side of dealing with different applications (package names, projects in Eclipse, apks, etc). It's also bringing into question how you want to manage your app; whether you want to charge for a tablet-optimized version or include it with the phone app someone has already purchased. Depending on what I learn related to packaging tablet specific features to an existing phone app, I'm quite undecided on which way I'll go. I suspect many of you have already been thinking about this very subject and I'm curious how you're planning to handle it. Please do include more options as you see them. How do the different API versions impact your thinking on the subject? -- Chris Stewarthttp://chriswstewart.com-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
After spending too much time trying to get a video of my app, I wanted to follow up on this thread. Last night I spent the better part of the night trying to capture video and audio from a walk-through of my application. I used Fraps to capture video of my desktop and the audio from my headset, which worked out really well. I used the emulator to run my application and a web browser beside it as that has a value for explaining usage. The emulator was so slow, causing issues not found while running on real hardware, and simply useless for these purposes. I can't imagine trying to do development on the emulator exclusively. I've always used my phone to debug and I suspect that if I didn't have that luxury, I wouldn't have lasted long trying to do Android development. It was awful. I managed to capture about 45 minutes of video which came down to about 20 minutes after editing. There's still a lot of lag and performance issues being shown in the video that aren't representative of the experience that customers have on their phone, so really, I won't be releasing what I've created so far. It won't do a lot for promotion if a prospective customer thinks they'll be waiting a minute for certain screens to show up -- when in reality they won't be. Now I need to find a way to capture using my phone directly and walking through the application that way. The performance is real, the experience is a better representation of the actual app, and will be a better showcase for what a customer is about to purchase. It sucks I can't use the emulator to convey that. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:00 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Kunju Vava android...@gmail.com wrote: plse give any idea? Start your own thread? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
Thanks for the replies everyone. I have a Droid X with the HDMI cable, but I'm not sure I have anything that can capture that video. I'll have to look more into that. I was thinking I would simply record me using the phone with a regular video camera that's mounted, as Nathan described. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Marcin Orlowski webnet.andr...@gmail.comwrote: The latest version of Shot Me app features saving videos too. Not fully cinematic experience, still better than nothing :) Requires rooted device. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bw.picme.local Regards, Marcin Orlowski Tray Agenda for Android http://bit.ly/trayagenda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
Thanks for the follow up. Could you use the image capture software to speed up final video to make it more representative of the on-device experience? I tried as much video editing magic as I could, and it just won't work. Some of it is because I'm capturing audio and video at the same time, not voicing over later, so I can't edit around both the audio and the video in certain situations or it doesn't make sense when it all comes together. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 3:53 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: Insight Thanks for the follow up. Could you use the image capture software to speed up final video to make it more representative of the on-device experience? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
More importantly, I think the Droid X only supports HDMI out for the Gallery (i.e., videos and pictures), not arbitrary stuff. Even better. :) I'll have to go old school on this I think. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the replies everyone. I have a Droid X with the HDMI cable, but I'm not sure I have anything that can capture that video. More importantly, I think the Droid X only supports HDMI out for the Gallery (i.e., videos and pictures), not arbitrary stuff. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android Training in Oslo: http://bit.ly/fjBo24 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Dynamically adding fragments at run-time?
I'm starting to think about how to transition my app to work on the Xoom. In the UI samples I've seen for Honeycomb, they each include two fragments, a ListView on the left for navigation and another fragment (I'm not sure what Layout) on the right that acts on the selection from the left. Not that I've seen a lot of Honeycomb UI samples to this point, which will change tomorrow as my Xoom is scheduled to arrive. :) What I'm looking for is dynamically setting up fragments based on the selection from the ListView fragment commonly found on the left of the screen. In some situations, I want another ListView beside it and then another fragment side the second ListView that populates from selections in the second ListView. In other situations, I'll want to do what I described originlly where a second fragment takes up the rest of the screen and shows some kind of data. Is it possible to do this? Any pointers, links, or articles would be appreciated. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] How is your sales model changing with the introduction of Android 3.0 and tablets, or is it?
Now that I'm working on a tablet-centric version of my app, I'm considering how it will impact my existing application in the Market. As far as I can see it, there are two ways this can go: 1) Leave your existing app as-is in the Market. Build a tablet version taking full advantage of Android 3.0, setting your minSdk to 11, using your existing code base (as applicable) as a library to share core code, and sell the apps independent of each other. Here you'll need to manage two code bases, even if only the UI side which we all know varies greatly from app to app. You're also requiring users to purchase twice effectively, assuming they want the app on both their phone and the tablet-centric version on their tablet. I guess the phone version would still work on the tablet, just not optimized for it. 2) Integrate fragments into your existing application and bundle in the tablet version along with the phone version. You'll need to drop support for Android 1.5 for the compatibility library, work around API differences between the phone and tablet APIs at run-time, and handle your UI activities and views differently between platforms. I'm not sure about that last part -- but it seems like with such a different UI concept behind 3.0 with the Action Bar and the general flow of an application can be so different, that you might need to break that apart. Could be very wrong there however and would love for someone to show me otherwise. There are a few things at play here. It's the battle on the technical side of dealing with different applications (package names, projects in Eclipse, apks, etc). It's also bringing into question how you want to manage your app; whether you want to charge for a tablet-optimized version or include it with the phone app someone has already purchased. Depending on what I learn related to packaging tablet specific features to an existing phone app, I'm quite undecided on which way I'll go. I suspect many of you have already been thinking about this very subject and I'm curious how you're planning to handle it. Please do include more options as you see them. How do the different API versions impact your thinking on the subject? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Android AVD 3.0 Problem
I have Visual Studio 08 and 10 on my machine, which I also have been doing development on including using the 3.0 AVD. I've had no issues. I know it's not exactly helpful, but perhaps useful to know. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:23 PM, 曾少彬 forever_ho...@hotmail.com wrote: I think Ali was getting this when launching AVD 3.0 on a machine with VS installed. He wasn't using VS to develop. Can you try to launch AVD via CMD window and paste the out put from CMD window here? Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:18:07 -0800 Subject: [android-developers] Re: Android AVD 3.0 Problem From: chrys.vie...@gmail.com To: android-developers@googlegroups.com I don't quite understand your problem, are you trying to do Android development using Visual Studio?? On Mar 10, 8:16 am, Ali Murtaza mralimurt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All I have just installed the Android 3.0. I am facing a problem. I am using Window XP, I have installed the .NET 4.0 version also. As i started the AVD 3.0, The visual studio gives me debugging problem of Emulator. Any body now, how to do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Best practices for tablet-centric development
http://blog.radioactiveyak.com/2011/02/strategies-for-honeycomb-and-backwards.html Thanks for the link TreKing, very helpful. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:21 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: You'd then need to maintain two sets of Activities in your code base (one for each view, for each Activity), but at least you're simply implementing functionality from your service layer in those instead of duplicating everything if you happened to go with two completely different applications. That was my initial thought at least. Does this make sense, or am I way off in my thinking? http://blog.radioactiveyak.com/2011/02/strategies-for-honeycomb-and-backwards.html Relates to: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/03/fragments-for-all.html http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/02/android-30-fragments-api.html http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/02/best-practices-for-honeycomb-and.html - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Best practices for tablet-centric development
Nathan, Perhaps my use of the word simple was taken a little too literally. As I said, I don't really have a grasp on Fragments yet, and if they work as well as described I'll certainly go that route. I do have rather simplistic Activities so maintaining those wouldn't be terribly difficult in my situation, but the article TreKing linked to provided a lot of insight into Fragments and really addressed some of the questions I had about them. Definitely seems like the path to take. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: On Mar 10, 1:59 pm, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.com wrote: I've always thought that simply maintaining two views for each Activity, one for a phone and one for a tablet, would be a good way to go. You'd then need to maintain two sets of Activities in your code base (one for each view, for each Activity), but at least you're simply Simple? I admire you for having such a thin, easily maintainable Activity. My main activity is 3000 lines of code. Sure, it could and should be less, but I see it doing a lot of things that should be done in an activity - findingviews by id, responding to events, changing the state of other views. There are lots of views in the hierarchy, and onyl the activity can see them all. For me, maintaining two activities would not be small. If the fragements API is usable back to 1.6, Is your intention just to maintain compatibility with 1.5? All that work for 3% of users when you are primarily targeting tablets? Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Best practices for tablet-centric development
I'm beginning to investigate bringing an application to the tablet form factor, the idea being the tablet is the primary platform of focus. I understand that Fragments are the way we should be developing applications moving forward to accommodate both phones and tablets, but perhaps my knowledge of them at this point is minimal. All I really understand about them to this point is that we can effectively bring a two Activity scenario from the phone, into a single view with Fragments on 3.0 tablets. I'm sure there's more to it, but like I said, my knowledge isn't there yet. If I wanted to have an optimized view for tablet users, but maintain the phone user experience, I've always thought that simply maintaining two views for each Activity, one for a phone and one for a tablet, would be a good way to go. You'd then need to maintain two sets of Activities in your code base (one for each view, for each Activity), but at least you're simply implementing functionality from your service layer in those instead of duplicating everything if you happened to go with two completely different applications. That was my initial thought at least. Does this make sense, or am I way off in my thinking? I guess what I'm after is understanding how others have approached this, assuming we're talking about making an optimized view for tablets but also having a full version for phones. While I want to target tablets first and foremost, it would be nice if phones could run the application as well. I really want to optimize for the Xoom and devices that come out to compete with it. Being able to maintain some functionality for phones would be nice, but if I simply excluded them and went Xoom only, it wouldn't hurt my feelings -- just my download numbers. :o -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Experiences with Application Licensing?
I had initially enabled Copy Protection prior to it being listed as deprecated and I have a growing concern over piracy when I compare my sales numbers from Checkout, to what the Android Market shows, and what Flurry is reporting. The numbers simply don't add up, and aren't even close really, so I want to explore measures to keep this more in line. I'm looking into implementing application licensing and I'm wondering what experiences people have had with it. It appears that the physical implementation will be rather easy. From what I can gather, StrictPolicy makes the most sense for my situation. My application requires an active Internet connection at all times due to the nature of what it's doing. If you've evaluated application licensing and have thoughts on how it has worked out for you, or perhaps why you decided not to implement it, I'd appreciate hearing them. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Experiences with Application Licensing?
Great thread, thanks for posting that. I guess more than anything the false positives (or, negatives?) scare me the most. Last thing I want to do is piss off a paid customer. Maybe for now I'll just wait and see how LVL improves in the future and consider it in the future. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:41 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: If you've evaluated application licensing and have thoughts on how it has worked out for you, or perhaps why you decided not to implement it, I'd appreciate hearing them. http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/229bbfaa78036f72 - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Global Variables
I tend to do what TreKing suggested. I have a class called CommonVariables that really holds static strings for Flurry event names, the year parameter for my app (it's seasonal and changes once a year) which is used all over the place, and things like that. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:53 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 2:41 PM, David Williams dwilli...@dtw-consulting.com wrote: What is the best way of going about setting up global variables? IDK about best, but easy: public static values somewhere that you set up in a custom Application class. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
Morning everyone, I'm working on more and more complex features to my main app and I'm considering putting together a video of my application to walk through all of the features, highlighting those that are more involved. Especially with the addition of this field in the Android Market, it seems like a good idea to do this. So, I'm wondering, have any of you done this and want to share the URL to your video? I'm finishing up development now for the current version and so I'll be working on a rough script soon. I'd love to see how other developers have approached this. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] How many of you are creating promotional videos for your app?
That's definitely a concern of mine as well. That said, I've done a lot of amateur video work in the past and it's really not all that involved. I think if you spend the time to make a decent script of what you're going to say, how you're going to flow through your app, and stick to that, it's easy to go back and adjust it as features are added. I don't think you'd need to do a new video each time a feature is added, unless it's major, but maybe every few features to keep it up to date. I would also stay a little high level throughout the video unless a specific feature needs more detail. Lets face it, most people aren't necessarily interested in watching a 10-20 minute video of an app. I think if you stay in the 2-5 minute range, you're in good shape and that's short enough that recording new videos from new versions of the app wouldn't be too rough to manage. For recording, I've used Fraps to record and mix gameplay from various games on my PC and I was thinking about using it for this as well. I suspect I'll just use the emulator to run the app, and a web browser to perform actions that my app would adjust from. I expect to tie up any loose ends on my app tonight/tomorrow and have it released shortly thereafter. So I'll work on even a rough video of what I'm thinking about once this dev cycle is over. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: I have not and would be interested to hear from those that have as well. My biggest issue is spending time to make a video, then going in and adding more features that then basically render the video obsolete. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Looking for a 1-2 years experienced IOS developer
TreKing, don't you know that reading is hard? Seriously. /sarcasm -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:04 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: *[android-developers]* Looking for a 1-2 years experienced *IOS * developer Really? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] usb driver xoom
While I have nothing to contribute to this conversation, I just wanted to chime in and express my jealousy that you're developing on a Xoom. :) -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 6:27 PM, J Handal jhand...@gmail.com wrote: Kostya, I tried from your link: ;NVIDIA Tegra %SingleAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0955PID_7000 %CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_0955PID_7100MI_01 Also this : ;Xoom %SingleAdbInterface%= USB_Install, USB\VID_22B8PID_70A9 %CompositeAdbInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_22B8PID_70A9MI_01 Getting closer but not enough,some other idea? THX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Total install numbers
It could also be due to piracy. I've had similar differences and I'm wondering if my apk is anywhere out there. I need to get around to implementing the license framework. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mar 4, 2011 9:59 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Hendrik Greving fourhend...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Why is there a big difference of Total installs from the publishers website and the number of people who actually bought my app? Because the Developer Console does not work. Use it as a *very* rough estimate, but don't believe a word it says. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Scrolling the contents of a LinearLayout
I have a somewhat simple home screen, which I'm beginning to out grow. The view itself looks like the home screen to the Facebook app, but here's a screen shot for reference ( http://chriswstewart.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ff-home-60.png). Essentially what I have is a parent LinearLayout, with three more LinearLayouts inside of it. In one of those three contains the core functionality buttons of my application. That's the area I want to scroll. I've included the layout of this view below. I have tried adding android:scrollbars to the LinearLayout in question, but that didn't do the trick. Any feedback (on the overall structure of this UI as well!) is greatly appreciated. Thanks. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? LinearLayout xmlns:android=http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android; android:id=@+id/home_root android:orientation=vertical android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=fill_parent LinearLayout style=@style/TitleBar TextView android:id=@+id/txtTitle style=@style/TitleBarText / /LinearLayout LinearLayout android:orientation=vertical android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=wrap_content android:layout_weight=1 android:padding=6dip android:scrollbars=vertical LinearLayout android:orientation=horizontal android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=wrap_content android:layout_weight=1 Button android:id=@+id/btnMyMfl style=@style/HomeButton android:text=My MFL android:drawableTop=@drawable/icon_mfl / Button android:id=@+id/btnMflScores style=@style/HomeButton android:text=My MFL Scores android:drawableTop=@drawable/icon_radp / /LinearLayout ... (more two button groups of LinearLayout elements here) .. /LinearLayout LinearLayout android:id=@+id/mflSpot android:layout_width=fill_parent android:layout_height=@dimen/mflSpot_height android:orientation=horizontal android:background=#ff android:gravity=center ImageView android:id=@+id/imgMflSpot android:layout_width=wrap_content android:layout_height=wrap_content android:background=@drawable/mflspot / /LinearLayout /LinearLayout -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Starting an intent, then pressing the back button, how to resume the Handler that was running?
I was mistakenly using onCreate to restart the background process, instead of onStart. Thanks for the refresher. :) -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:29 PM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: I tried onResume but that was even called when I visited the initial Activity the first time, so I'm guessing there's something else I should be doing. I usually go with onStart() / onStop() for things that need to happen while the user is actively paying attention. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Starting an intent, then pressing the back button, how to resume the Handler that was running?
Here's the scenario: - On an Activity I have a Handler that is posting a message every 5 seconds. - If I click on an item in my ListView, for the above Activity, it starts a new Activity by way of Intent. - Clicking back on the phone will take me back to the previous Activity but my Handler isn't running. However, all of the data is still present on my ListView. What method do I need to implement to start that process up again? I tried onResume but that was even called when I visited the initial Activity the first time, so I'm guessing there's something else I should be doing. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Refreshing ListView data within an Activity every 5-10 seconds, which approach to take?
Thanks for the replies. I should clarify some of the points you both mentioned. This server is not in my control at all, so any kind of push would be out of the question I suppose. I only want to pull in short increments if the user is actively using the Activity in question, not if the phone is locked, or they're in another app, or even in my app but in another Activity. I know I could refresh the init method I have which kicks off the thread to pull new data but given the ProgressDialog it shows, I think it would be annoying to see that so frequently when the user isn't actively requesting it. If I use the small loading icon, I suspect since the UI and data pull are running on different threads it wouldn't lock up the UI on the end user but I'll need to test that for performance/responsiveness. Maybe I'll give that a shot and see how it goes. Long term, I would like to do this in longer intervals (30+ minutes) when the user is not actively in the app or on this Activity and toss up a notification if something interesting happens with the new data. While also retaining the 5-10 second interval when they are actively looking at this Activity. Long term... :) -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: It just depends on what kind of server you're dealing with. If it's your own, you could implement a simple push scheme by keeping the TCP/IP connection open after the initial data download, and having the server send new data over this connection. The client would just check every few seconds if the socket has readable data, and if so, read it and update the UI. A variation of this would use two connections, one for notifications, and one for data. As far as the UI goes - first, you could display the standard progress wheel in the activity's title bar, second, you could add a special footer to your list view that says Loading... and is then pushed out of sight by the new data item. -- Kostya 04.03.2011 7:14, Chris Stewart пишет: I have a service I'm pulling data from and they suggest doing so every 5-10 seconds it's designed to be a near-real-time experience. I'm currently pulling this information down and displaying it in a ListView. During the initial load, I toss up a basic ProgressDialog so the user knows information is being loaded. However, introducing that automatically in such a short increment of time would be an annoying user experience. Is there a nice way to approach this problem in Android? I'd like to be able to run an update on the data I'm pulling from the web without disrupting the end user's experience. Ideally, not even disrupting them if they happen to be scrolling the view. The data itself will always be additions to data that's already been pulled down, so essentially I'm adding records to my Adapter every 5-10 seconds. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Kostya Vasilyev -- http://kmansoft.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union
Agree with everything you said TreKing. While I really appreciate the effort Dianne shows towards this list, I wish there were more Android developers putting the same effort out in other areas of the Android ecosystem. Having such insight into the Market would be a very welcome addition. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:52 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Do I not count as a response from Google? Of course! Probably more so than most. However, you didn't respond to the thread I linked to, so my statement still stands. Oh you mean a response answering question about Market? As I said there, nobody from the Market team is on this list, so you shouldn't be surprised by not getting responses to questions that people on this list can't answer. Oh, I think you mean this thread, concerning being banned from the Market: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/cf94566a81affbfb Of course you are correct - this forum is not about the Market and, as you posted, questions should go to the Market Support Forum. Fair enough. So let's take a look over there, shall we? Here is the same question about the in-app billing not working: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=331d1590e7ae94dbhl=en And here is the same question about the content policy that you told the OP to post in the support forum: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?fid=6d6cc0380c0b10d500049d3f4f0f3433hl=en Now let's count the total number of responses from Google. Zero. In fact, the only response to either question is from yours truly telling the poster that no one is going to respond to them. Even sadder, my responses are the best answer. Unfortunately, I continue to be correct. See, the problem is that people go to the official support forum looking for help and they get ignored. Then they move over into other Android-related forums hoping to get answers. Unfortunately, they are either ignored again or are re-directed back to the appropriate forum where they were ignored to begin with. It is *beyond* frustrating. The people here work on the platform, not on Market. We can't talk about what Market is doing. I believe all of the people who posted here have posted to other lists. Some of them are more likely to post to the open source lists, etc. Understood. I meant no offense to any of you and I'm sure the other two that I personally have not seen around here before help out elsewhere that I'm not aware of. My point is simply this: getting actual support or answers for legitimate issues relating to the Android Market is nigh impossible - regardless of the channel one goes through. Meanwhile a thread with the threat of being spammed gets the attention of 4 Googlers. Pathetically, this thread has received more Google attention than anything in the Market Support forum, whether the responders have anything to do with the Market or not. And *that* is what I find so very sad about this situation. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Paid promotions of my Application on Market
I assume you mean pay Google to feature your app. If that's the case, no, there's nothing like that available. Building the best app you can and having it spread organically is likely the avenue you'll need to explore, assuming you don't have deep pockets to advertise on various websites around the web targeting your app's demographic. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:54 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Amit amitmishr...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a possibility in Android Market where I can do some PAID promotions of My Application? By ad-space in other apps? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Opinions on updating a seasonal app; new app or in-app billing?
I don't think anyone's implemented this yet - it doesn't work from the Market side of things, AFAIK. How much of a pain? Well it deals with the Android Market, so probably a huge one. That being the case, I'm glad I didn't spend much time and effort digging into it. :) -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:40 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Chris Stewart cstewart...@gmail.comwrote: For those that have implemented in-app billing, how much of a pain is it? I don't think anyone's implemented this yet - it doesn't work from the Market side of things, AFAIK. How much of a pain? Well it deals with the Android Market, so probably a huge one. How difficult is it to test? At the moment, it's impossible. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Opinions on updating a seasonal app; new app or in-app billing?
Nathan, Appreciate the feedback. I ended up putting out a different application and while I hate to lose the reviews, rating, and placement in the Market, I also feel it was the right way to go. I did update the 2010 edition to free and updated the description to point users to the 2011 edition. After a short period of time, I'll remove that app from the Market as to not cause any confusion -- well before August and the crush of people going to download their app for season. I did notice that just over 1,000 people still had the 2010 edition installed, so what I ended up doing is updating the 2010 edition one final time with a message that displays when you open it thanking users for their support, mentioning the 2011 edition being available, and a button that takes them directly to the new app in the Market. I've already seen some conversions from that approach and I suspect more will happen as more and more of those 1,000 people update their 2010 app. I'll definitely think about an opt-in newsletter for 2011 as that would likely even help more on a conversion for 2012. Also to note, I figured making the app free might even encourage users to download who looked at my app in 2010 but didn't want to pay for it. They won't get the service for 2011, but they'll see what the app has in it for 2010 and potentially buy for 2011. What I also anticipated is getting the well I bought the app last year, why should I have to pay again? emails and I've already gotten one. That's another topic I suspect I'll be dealing with for much of this summer and early fall. :) -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Nathan critter...@crittermap.com wrote: I don't see any compelling reason to use in-app purchases in this scenario. If the season's over, the app is probably uninstalled for that subset of users who know how to uninstall and forgotten for the rest. Bringing out Fantasy Football app 2011 sounds like the right approach. I wouldn't change your last app to free, just clearly label it 2010 and mention the more awesome 2011 app is available now. In fact, you should probably just raise the price to $2010 as a tax on those who don't read the title or description. Changing it to free will just encourage more people to download it without reading the description, and then commenting that the app is out of date, 1 star. Hopefully, you have an optin newsletter for your current users, so you can announce the new version and encourage them to comment on the 2010 version saying 'This is awesome, but the 2011 one is even better!' Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Refreshing ListView data within an Activity every 5-10 seconds, which approach to take?
I have a service I'm pulling data from and they suggest doing so every 5-10 seconds it's designed to be a near-real-time experience. I'm currently pulling this information down and displaying it in a ListView. During the initial load, I toss up a basic ProgressDialog so the user knows information is being loaded. However, introducing that automatically in such a short increment of time would be an annoying user experience. Is there a nice way to approach this problem in Android? I'd like to be able to run an update on the data I'm pulling from the web without disrupting the end user's experience. Ideally, not even disrupting them if they happen to be scrolling the view. The data itself will always be additions to data that's already been pulled down, so essentially I'm adding records to my Adapter every 5-10 seconds. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Opinions on updating a seasonal app; new app or in-app billing?
I have a fantasy football app that was active during the 2010 season. Now that the season is over, the app is still out there on the market but wouldn't be of much use considering it's set up for 2010. I'm in preparations for a 2011 version and my first thought was to simply upload an entirely new app while making reference to the 2010 version that I would update to say thanks for a great 2010 season... and turn from a paid application to free. If I go that route, I'd certainly lose the reviews and rating I've accumulated over the last 5 months and that could lead to some confusion if both apps stay active in the market. On the positive, I wouldn't need to implement in-app billing for an enable 2011 mode, I suspect I'd have fewer complaints about, well, I bought this last year and now I have to pay again?, even though that's still effectively the case. I'm not really sure which way to take this. I've gone back and forth a number of times and can see the positives on both sides. For those that have implemented in-app billing, how much of a pain is it? How difficult is it to test? Also consider that I'll have people updating that need to make that in-app purchase, but new purchasers would have that feature immediately, or perhaps the app would turn free and everyone would need to do in-app billing for the 2011 mode. Have any of you gone through something similar... how have you approached it? Any feedback on the experience of implementing in-app billing is appreciated as well. Thanks. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Will Google send out tax forms?
Has anyone received any information from Google regarding income for 2010? I thought I might receive a document with the amount they've paid out but since I haven't I wanted to see if anyone else had. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Market package name on Xoom?
Wow, that's certainly not necessary. Folks are simply trying to help you. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Shane Isbell shane.isb...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.comwrote: Don't hard-code package names. This is fragile, as you've already found. Don't continue doing it. You'll just break again sometime in the future. If there is no public API to do something so simple, then opening with market package name way is the only way. I have a hard-requirement to open the market (all tested on specific devices and specific firmware before-hand). And who are you to tell me not to do it anyway? I understand the limitations. Shane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Are you submitting your app to more than just the Android Market?
Now that I'm working on my seasonal app for the 2011 season, I'm wondering if any of the 3rd party markets are gaining traction with other developers. Are any of you submitting to the Amazon market, or any others? What are your plans for these 3rd party markets? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Setting a wait/sleep on a Service
I'm looking at building a service into my app, and here's what I'm currently reading: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals/services.html#ExtendingIntentService. It seems to suggest that the way you set a wait, or sleep, is to add it in the onHandleIntent method. Is that correct or is that simply for the purpose of being a sample? Effectively, I want to go and download a file every 15 minutes, see if it has changed, and send a status bar notification if it has. Would the above be the way to go about implementing that? -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Market package name on Xoom?
Really interesting to see a little sneak peak behind the scenes of Android's development. Would be interesting to see more of that honestly. Thanks for all you do Dianne, it's greatly appreciated. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: Hi all, I appreciate people jumping to me defense, but this is really not necessary. To be honest, Shane's reply was so tame compared to other discussions I've had that it didn't even register to me as rude. (And to be clear, I am not telling people absolutely to not do something, I just try when I see someone doing something that will cause problems in the future, to tell them don't do this because your code will break. I can't stop people from doing stuff that will break, I just want them to know this going in.) Anyway to address a few more comments -- Technically my job is to manage the Android core frameworks. Whether this includes replying to developers on forums is not specified, but personally I see that as part of the job. Whatever the case it is nothing like the main part of the job... so I post on these forums mostly when I am not at work (like I am now, before going to work). This is mostly a matter of prioritizing my time -- should I spend that time posting to these forums, or working on new versions of Android, or investigating bugs like the onStartCommand() that has been discussed elsewhere here? The reason I ask people to not send replies directly to me is because that does not benefit anyone else, and the time I spend replying to the same question twice means one less question I can answer. I already can't keep up with all the questions on online forums, so I want to keep my time spent there where it benefits everyone. And as far as who developed Android -- what Android is today was developed mostly at Google. When I joined Google and started on Android, most of the existing work (which was creating a mobile API unified across Java, JavaScript, and C++) was being replaced with the Dalvik Uber Alles approach we have today. Some of the original implementation remains in bits and pieces (such as the C++ AssetManager), but what you think of Android today was mostly created from 2005 to 2007/2008 while engineers were at Google. Activities, notifications, resources, Dalvik, content providers, the view hierarchy, and on, and on, that was all done by engineers while working at Google. (I should also say that Google's management was also strongly involved with Android and helped make the project successful. For example, we had quarterly updates where had to show them real progress in the software. This was extremely valuable from the start to focus development priorities on what was needed to ship the software. Did I mention Google is a pretty awesome company? It is. I doubt Android could have happened anywhere else.) Anyway, let's consider discussions about who is being rude or whatever done and get back to more interesting technical stuff. :) On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Indicator Veritatis mej1...@yahoo.comwrote: As I read your reply, I somehow remember the saying of Ben Franklin from his Wit and Wisdom, Quarrels would be neither bitter nor long, if on one side -only-, lay the wrong. This is because, yes, Shane did not need to be rude. But even after having defended Dianne's answer in another post, I now feel the need to point out how her answer was not an example of sterling politeness, either. Even though she was 100% correct to warn against hard coding package names. In your own words, none of the backlash would have happened if Dianne has not been, true to style, so extremely curt, writing just like so many highly accomplished technical people who get everything technically correct, but everything that is not technical not correct: ( One should expect a backlash when two out of three sentences read like an impatient mother scolding a child, starting out with such an abrupt imperative, Don't. Nor is it often considered helpful to say Don't do A without proposing an -alternative- to A. Speaking of alternatives, it surprises me no one has noticed yet: Dianne's prohibition was not on using package names, but on using HARD-CODED package names. Why has no one mentioned alternatives? Put the package name in a configuration file somewhere, or (even more extreme, in my opinion), pull it down from a server, so that it can be changed when the package name changes, without having to download a new APK. Surely Shane can get the client to accept that. On Feb 28, 3:03 pm, Justin Anderson magouyaw...@gmail.com wrote: None of that matters... It's just a simple matter of etiquette. When asking for help you don't have to be rude if you don't like the answer. And if you feel it doesn't apply then great... don't apply it! The OP could just as easily have said Thanks for the advice
