Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] U.P.P.E.C Gilroy Chapter

[helen kerner]

Dave,
The Council number for Gilroy is 89.
It was organized on January 27, 1934 by Supreme President, Maria C. Peters.
There were 14 Charter Members.  You have the 14 listed below in your email as 
the names on the sides.  Don't know anything about the last five names.
Information obtained from the book Centennial Album and History of the 
U.P.P.E.C. 1901-2001.
Best,helen cunha kerner
Researching Almagreira, Santa Maria 


  From: Dave Peoples 
 To: azores@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:37 PM
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] U.P.P.E.C Gilroy Chapter
   
Cleaning a 
storeroom at Gilroy I.F.D.E.S Lodge came across what appears to be the framed 
charter for Gilroy U.P.P.E.C dated 27 January 1934 with the “Nomas das 
Fundoras” down each side. It is signed 8 February 1934 by Maria C. Peters and 
Maria S. Pimental. Not sure, but I think the chapter number was 89. Any 
information about that chapter would be appreciated. Names on the sides 
are:Philomena A. Bettencourt, Eleanor M. Bettencourt, Mary Josephine Rose, 
Sarah V. Bettencourt, Jennie Lemos, Mary C. Silva, Elsie M. Leal, Mary Helen 
Bettencourt, Rose Burgess, Dorothy Santos, Mary Machado, Rose E. Sanches, 
Mariana N. Bettencourt, Leonora Clement, Luiza M. Gaspar, Rose H. Serpa, Mary 
Burgess, Maria P. Burgess, Virginia Santos.  Dave PeoplesGilroyEmail   
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[AZORES-Genealogy] U.P.P.E.C Gilroy Chapter

[Dave Peoples]

Cleaning a storeroom at Gilroy I.F.D.E.S Lodge came across what appears to
be the framed charter for Gilroy U.P.P.E.C dated 27 January 1934 with the
"Nomas das Fundoras" down each side. It is signed 8 February 1934 by Maria
C. Peters and Maria S. Pimental. Not sure, but I think the chapter number
was 89. Any information about that chapter would be appreciated.

Names on the sides are:

Philomena A. Bettencourt, Eleanor M. Bettencourt, Mary Josephine Rose, Sarah
V. Bettencourt, Jennie Lemos, Mary C. Silva, Elsie M. Leal, Mary Helen
Bettencourt, Rose Burgess, Dorothy Santos, Mary Machado, Rose E. Sanches,
Mariana N. Bettencourt, Leonora Clement, Luiza M. Gaspar, Rose H. Serpa,
Mary Burgess, Maria P. Burgess, Virginia Santos.

 

Dave Peoples

Gilroy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Wow! Awesome! that's not her but is an aunt of mine! Cool thanks so so so much 
for looking!!!



  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Hmm. No that is not her although it's close. Thanks very much for looking 
anyways Celeste! Do they give the birthplaces of the parents?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Widowed woman "mendicante" buried where?

[linda]

my pleasure!

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 7:46:55 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>
> Yes that is so kind of you to share the information with me.
> Thank you Linda.
> Wow- that was tough living.  It makes me think about the conditions of our 
> ancestors.  We are so abundantly blessed today to have the necessities of 
> life and then some.  I can't imagine how hard their lives were.  
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 9:15 PM, linda  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Maria Elena,
>
> Mendicant denotes begging, but, no, I don't think we can assume 
> homelessness. Nineteenth century travel writers to the Azores describe the 
> material poverty and the custom of begging, but I don't recall reading any 
> accounts of homeless elderly women.  
>
> Ok, here's a quick summary of a description from one of the books I have: 
> Saturday was the customary day they made their rounds; the beggars the 
> author observed (on Sao Miguel) were all elderly impoverished women.  He 
> says that "Mendicity [sic] is confined to the aged and infirm poor and to 
> the crippled and blind, for whom there is no legal provision.  They are 
> therefore dependent on the charity of the wealthy, to whom they make a 
> weekly application and receive alms."  "Their strength is to sit still; and 
> they will wait on a staircase or at a gate for more than an hour, in dismal 
> expectation of the smallest pittance."  During the period when your Barbara 
> Velha lived, the monasteries and convents distributed surplus food to the 
> beggars as well as alms; later the religious houses were dissolved, and the 
> author (writing about 20 years afterwards, if I recall correctly) suggests 
> that added a bit more hardship to their lives.  
>
> I recall reading an obito for a man in Cedros, Flores where the priest 
> wrote that the man's occupation was "a beggar and nothing more".  His tone 
> struck me as exasperated, and now I wish I'd noted where exactly I saw it 
> because now I'd like to look at it again.
>
> hope that's useful for you,
>
> Linda
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 4:43:07 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>>
>> Linda, thank you for clarifying.  Yeah, i saw  those words, "that "she 
>> had nothing".   I looked to see if it said that in the other obits but it 
>> didn't.  And the priest used the word " VELHA" ( as in old? I wondered ) 
>> to punctuate her status.  
>>
>> It saddens me  that with grown children the mother would be homeless. 
>>  Does mendicante also mean homeless (?) 
>> Maria Elena 
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:34 PM, linda  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Barbara Velha, a widow, an aged beggar, "...died with all the sacraments 
>> of the sainted church; she made no will for she had nothing; she was buried 
>> in the churchyard near the main door of this church..."
>>
>> I've read that in the mid/late19th century, it was the custom that on one 
>> day of the week (Sundays, I think, but am not sure now) the poor of a 
>> parish would go from door to door collecting alms, and that it was the 
>> practice to give something if one could.  The wealthier one was, the more 
>> obligated to give alms-- not forgetting the religious obligation as well.  
>> I don't know if this was the case earlier too, but I wouldn't be surprised 
>> if it was a centuries old tradition.  Anyway, my impression is that begging 
>> was sort of an informal socio-religious based welfare system.   
>>
>> hope that helps,
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Linda
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 6:42:23 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>>>
>>> LEFT side first name- BARBARA VELHA
>>>
>>> This is the second widowed woman in the same time frame where the priest 
>>> wrote "mendicante" which I think in (spanish) it's a beggar.  Wow!  That 
>>> very sad considering they had grown children.  I can visualize them in rags 
>>> begging on the street and even though it was so long ago, it breaks my 
>>> heart to think they were left to beg when they were widowed.  Maybe there's 
>>> a better translation for mendicante.  Also, I couldn't figure out where she 
>>> was buried and wondered if someone could translate that about the burial(?) 
>>> please?  Some municipal place. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733_item1/P11.html
>>>
>>> Maria Elena 
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

Jeremy, the only name I found that is even close to the information you sent me 
is:
Maria Terra, died 6/7/1942, no age listed, in Oakland, CA.  No date of birth no 
father or mother listed.  She died of bronchopneumonia & myocarditis.  The 
mortuary was C.P. Bannon, Oakland.  Children listed:  Joseph S. Terra, Jr., 
Martha Zerke, Carla Patridge.  No death certificate listed.

I did not find any other Maria that fit the information you sent to me.

Celeste
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On Wed, 10/12/16, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal 
organizations
 To: "azores@googlegroups.com" 
 Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 5:35 PM
 
  I
 would have no idea which council number it was. Her name was
 Maria Emelia Reis nee Terra and she died July 1942 and was
 born about 1855 but thats all I know.  She lived in Morro
 most of the time she was in the States. 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Widowed woman "mendicante" buried where?

[Maria Lima]

Yes that is so kind of you to share the information with me.
Thank you Linda.
Wow- that was tough living.  It makes me think about the conditions of our 
ancestors.  We are so abundantly blessed today to have the necessities of life 
and then some.  I can't imagine how hard their lives were.  
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 9:15 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> Hi Maria Elena,
> 
> Mendicant denotes begging, but, no, I don't think we can assume homelessness. 
> Nineteenth century travel writers to the Azores describe the material poverty 
> and the custom of begging, but I don't recall reading any accounts of 
> homeless elderly women.  
> 
> Ok, here's a quick summary of a description from one of the books I have: 
> Saturday was the customary day they made their rounds; the beggars the author 
> observed (on Sao Miguel) were all elderly impoverished women.  He says that 
> "Mendicity [sic] is confined to the aged and infirm poor and to the crippled 
> and blind, for whom there is no legal provision.  They are therefore 
> dependent on the charity of the wealthy, to whom they make a weekly 
> application and receive alms."  "Their strength is to sit still; and they 
> will wait on a staircase or at a gate for more than an hour, in dismal 
> expectation of the smallest pittance."  During the period when your Barbara 
> Velha lived, the monasteries and convents distributed surplus food to the 
> beggars as well as alms; later the religious houses were dissolved, and the 
> author (writing about 20 years afterwards, if I recall correctly) suggests 
> that added a bit more hardship to their lives.  
> 
> I recall reading an obito for a man in Cedros, Flores where the priest wrote 
> that the man's occupation was "a beggar and nothing more".  His tone struck 
> me as exasperated, and now I wish I'd noted where exactly I saw it because 
> now I'd like to look at it again.
> 
> hope that's useful for you,
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 4:43:07 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>> Linda, thank you for clarifying.  Yeah, i saw  those words, "that "she had 
>> nothing".   I looked to see if it said that in the other obits but it 
>> didn't.  And the priest used the word " VELHA" ( as in old? I wondered ) to 
>> punctuate her status.  
>> 
>> It saddens me  that with grown children the mother would be homeless.  Does 
>> mendicante also mean homeless (?) 
>> Maria Elena 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:34 PM, linda  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Barbara Velha, a widow, an aged beggar, "...died with all the sacraments of 
>>> the sainted church; she made no will for she had nothing; she was buried in 
>>> the churchyard near the main door of this church..."
>>> 
>>> I've read that in the mid/late19th century, it was the custom that on one 
>>> day of the week (Sundays, I think, but am not sure now) the poor of a 
>>> parish would go from door to door collecting alms, and that it was the 
>>> practice to give something if one could.  The wealthier one was, the more 
>>> obligated to give alms-- not forgetting the religious obligation as well.  
>>> I don't know if this was the case earlier too, but I wouldn't be surprised 
>>> if it was a centuries old tradition.  Anyway, my impression is that begging 
>>> was sort of an informal socio-religious based welfare system.   
>>> 
>>> hope that helps,
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 6:42:23 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
 LEFT side first name- BARBARA VELHA
 
 This is the second widowed woman in the same time frame where the priest 
 wrote "mendicante" which I think in (spanish) it's a beggar.  Wow!  That 
 very sad considering they had grown children.  I can visualize them in 
 rags begging on the street and even though it was so long ago, it breaks 
 my heart to think they were left to beg when they were widowed.  Maybe 
 there's a better translation for mendicante.  Also, I couldn't figure out 
 where she was buried and wondered if someone could translate that about 
 the burial(?) please?  Some municipal place. 
 
 Thanks!!
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733_item1/P11.html
 
 Maria Elena 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

[Kawika322]

The PFSA (Formerly the UPEC) has the original UPEC records in their office 
(separate from the JA Freitas Library in the same building) in San Leandro. I 
have been many times and they have let me look through the records and take 
pictures of the pages I was interested in. I also talked to them a while back 
and they said they have the IDES records in their storage facility somewhere, 
however they were unable and inside when they could access or get 
them..although I did volunteer to help find and organize them for them.

David

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Widowed woman "mendicante" buried where?

[linda]

Hi Maria Elena,

Mendicant denotes begging, but, no, I don't think we can assume 
homelessness. Nineteenth century travel writers to the Azores describe the 
material poverty and the custom of begging, but I don't recall reading any 
accounts of homeless elderly women.  

Ok, here's a quick summary of a description from one of the books I have: 
Saturday was the customary day they made their rounds; the beggars the 
author observed (on Sao Miguel) were all elderly impoverished women.  He 
says that "Mendicity [sic] is confined to the aged and infirm poor and to 
the crippled and blind, for whom there is no legal provision.  They are 
therefore dependent on the charity of the wealthy, to whom they make a 
weekly application and receive alms."  "Their strength is to sit still; and 
they will wait on a staircase or at a gate for more than an hour, in dismal 
expectation of the smallest pittance."  During the period when your Barbara 
Velha lived, the monasteries and convents distributed surplus food to the 
beggars as well as alms; later the religious houses were dissolved, and the 
author (writing about 20 years afterwards, if I recall correctly) suggests 
that added a bit more hardship to their lives.  

I recall reading an obito for a man in Cedros, Flores where the priest 
wrote that the man's occupation was "a beggar and nothing more".  His tone 
struck me as exasperated, and now I wish I'd noted where exactly I saw it 
because now I'd like to look at it again.

hope that's useful for you,

Linda


On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 4:43:07 AM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>
> Linda, thank you for clarifying.  Yeah, i saw  those words, "that "she had 
> nothing".   I looked to see if it said that in the other obits but it 
> didn't.  And the priest used the word " VELHA" ( as in old? I wondered ) 
> to punctuate her status.  
>
> It saddens me  that with grown children the mother would be homeless. 
>  Does mendicante also mean homeless (?) 
> Maria Elena 
>
> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:34 PM, linda  
> wrote:
>
>
> Barbara Velha, a widow, an aged beggar, "...died with all the sacraments 
> of the sainted church; she made no will for she had nothing; she was buried 
> in the churchyard near the main door of this church..."
>
> I've read that in the mid/late19th century, it was the custom that on one 
> day of the week (Sundays, I think, but am not sure now) the poor of a 
> parish would go from door to door collecting alms, and that it was the 
> practice to give something if one could.  The wealthier one was, the more 
> obligated to give alms-- not forgetting the religious obligation as well.  
> I don't know if this was the case earlier too, but I wouldn't be surprised 
> if it was a centuries old tradition.  Anyway, my impression is that begging 
> was sort of an informal socio-religious based welfare system.   
>
> hope that helps,
>
> :)
>
> Linda
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 6:42:23 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>>
>> LEFT side first name- BARBARA VELHA
>>
>> This is the second widowed woman in the same time frame where the priest 
>> wrote "mendicante" which I think in (spanish) it's a beggar.  Wow!  That 
>> very sad considering they had grown children.  I can visualize them in rags 
>> begging on the street and even though it was so long ago, it breaks my 
>> heart to think they were left to beg when they were widowed.  Maybe there's 
>> a better translation for mendicante.  Also, I couldn't figure out where she 
>> was buried and wondered if someone could translate that about the burial(?) 
>> please?  Some municipal place. 
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733_item1/P11.html
>>
>> Maria Elena 
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

 I would have no idea which council number it was. Her name was Maria Emelia 
Reis nee Terra and she died July 1942 and was born about 1855 but thats all I 
know.  She lived in Morro most of the time she was in the States. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Maria Reis San Luis Obispo CA or Morro Bay CA died 1942

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

Marilyn, 
   Without more information, I cannot search for your greatgrandmother.
Celeste
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On Wed, 10/12/16, Marilyn Thompson  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal 
organizations
 To: "Cheri Mello" 
 Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 4:26 PM
 
 Does
 anyone know where I can find the  UPPEC for Bakersfield? I know
 that my grandmother belonged to that organization. I would
 like to see if my great grandmother also belonged to the
 same organization.
 ThanksMarilyn
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at
 1:42 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
 Yes, I am sure there are a great
 many persons with those names, but I am interested in any in
 Morro bay/San Luis Obispo As you said Cheri in
 regards to the UPEC collection "Do NOT put on horse
 blinders...You have to look around and collect the whole
 set! You may find the answer you were seeking by looking at
 another relative or relation." I don't want to
 specify names unless it is neccisary to do a search because
 I would not want to miss any cousins that may have been
 members.  So depending upon the layout of your database
 Celeste, if this is possible pleaselet me know, if not I can
 compile a list...
 Thanks,
 Jeremy G.
 Berry-CahnResearching: Ribeira Seca, Calheta,
 Faja Dos Cubres 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

Jeremy,
   It has taken me some time; however, I did find a Maria Brazil Reis who died 
in San Luis Obispo on Jan, 9, 1943, age 73.
I also found Mary/Maria Julia M. Reis and a Julia M. Reis who died in San Luis 
Obispo.  I did not search farther because I do not have enough information.  
   If Maria Brazil Reis is your family, let me know and I will send you all the 
information in the data base for her.
Celeste
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On Wed, 10/12/16, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Cc: ccgran...@yahoo.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 12:31 PM
 
 I was
 indeed reffering to the  SPRSI records, although I am ALSO
 interested in those of the UPPEC.Specifically in Morro
 Bay/San Luis Obispo County California.  Is there any was
 you might be willing to look for deaths in those areas in
 your database for surnames simalar to:
 DeTerra/Terra/Reis/ReizCardoza/Cardoso
 That would be very
 interesting.
 Thanks
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

Jeremy,
   As an example of what I can and cannot do:  You mention Morro Bay.  In the 
database I have several deaths in Morro Bay and the Council of the UPPEC to 
which the person belonged varies from 13, 18, 32, 39, 58, 110.  Where the 
person died does not give me the "real" information about the council to which 
they belonged.  

Again, my experience with the ladies my mother met monthly gives me an answer 
as to why some formed a "new" council in the same town or nearby.  They 
disagreed about something, got a group of friends to join them and moved their 
group to a different town.  They still lived in the same place, just did not 
participate in the same council.

So, even though I recorded the council to which they belonged it may not be the 
place where they lived.  This is one reason I need as much information as you 
have to find your family.
Celeste
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal 
organizations
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 5:11 PM
 
 
 If anyone wants me to look in the database I need
 information about the member.  The more information,
 the more likely I can find the woman.
 
 Here are the thing I copied from the information I found in
 the death records of the member:
 death claim #, policy #, last name, first name, mid. name,
 month of death, day of death, year of death, age, where
 died, birth date and place (here is where many just wrote
 Portugal or Azores), Father's name, mother's name, council #
 (the council where she was a member), cause of death (if
 there was a death certificate), mortuary, contact person and
 whether the file held a death certificate.
 
 The more information you have the more likely I can match
 the information to a deceased member of the UPPEC.  I
 am happy to try to help you find your female relative that
 was a member of the UPPEC.
 Celeste
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 
 
 On Wed, 10/12/16, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
 
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese
 Fraternal organizations
  To: "Azores Genealogy" 
  Cc: ccgran...@yahoo.com
  Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 12:31 PM
  
  I was
  indeed reffering to the  SPRSI records, although I am
 ALSO
  interested in those of the UPPEC.Specifically in Morro
  Bay/San Luis Obispo County California.  Is there any was
  you might be willing to look for deaths in those areas in
  your database for surnames simalar to:
  DeTerra/Terra/Reis/ReizCardoza/Cardoso
  That would be very
  interesting.
  Thanks
  Jeremy
  
  
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

If anyone wants me to look in the database I need information about the member. 
 The more information, the more likely I can find the woman.

Here are the thing I copied from the information I found in the death records 
of the member:
death claim #, policy #, last name, first name, mid. name, month of death, day 
of death, year of death, age, where died, birth date and place (here is where 
many just wrote Portugal or Azores), Father's name, mother's name, council # 
(the council where she was a member), cause of death (if there was a death 
certificate), mortuary, contact person and whether the file held a death 
certificate.

The more information you have the more likely I can match the information to a 
deceased member of the UPPEC.  I am happy to try to help you find your female 
relative that was a member of the UPPEC.
Celeste
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Wed, 10/12/16, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Cc: ccgran...@yahoo.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 12:31 PM
 
 I was
 indeed reffering to the  SPRSI records, although I am ALSO
 interested in those of the UPPEC.Specifically in Morro
 Bay/San Luis Obispo County California.  Is there any was
 you might be willing to look for deaths in those areas in
 your database for surnames simalar to:
 DeTerra/Terra/Reis/ReizCardoza/Cardoso
 That would be very
 interesting.
 Thanks
 Jeremy
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

[Marilyn Thompson]

Does anyone know where I can find the  UPPEC for Bakersfield? I know that
my grandmother belonged to that organization. I would like to see if my
great grandmother also belonged to the same organization.

Thanks
Marilyn

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 1:42 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Yes, I am sure there are a great many persons with those names, but I am
>> interested in any in Morro bay/San Luis Obispo As you said Cheri in
>> regards to the UPEC collection* "Do NOT put on horse blinders...You have
>> to look around and collect the whole set! You may find the answer you were
>> seeking by looking at another relative or relation." *I don't want to
>> specify names unless it is neccisary to do a search because I would not
>> want to miss any cousins that may have been members.  So depending upon the
>> layout of your database Celeste, if this is possible pleaselet me know, if
>> not I can compile a list...
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy G. Berry-Cahn
> Researching: Ribeira Seca, Calheta, Faja Dos Cubres
>
>
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] When trying send an email from a third party site

[Cheri Mello]

I get this question a lot in regards to FTDNA. It could happen with any
site though. You click the link to email the person, and instead of
launching your email, Windows wants you to use THEIR email client.

With Chrome, they want you to use Gmail (since both are Google products).
Pretend you have AOL. Do a Google search on:
set aol email as default in chrome
Here's one:  http://sstut.com/aolmail/chrome-default-email.php
Substitute your email client in place of AOL.

In Firefox, click the 3 bars in the upper right corner (red circle in the
screen shot), and pick the Options gear. Once that page loads, click
Applications in the left column (yellow circle). Then look for "Mail to" in
the main body. To the right, double click for your email client and a drop
down menu will appear (purple circle).

Since I'm on Windows 10, I don't have Internet Explorer (IE) anymore. It's
Edge. I'd do a Google search on: set  email as default in internet
explorer. Or Edge. Whatever it may be.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

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>
> Yes, I am sure there are a great many persons with those names, but I am 
> interested in any in Morro bay/San Luis Obispo As you said Cheri in 
> regards to the UPEC collection* "Do NOT put on horse blinders...You have 
> to look around and collect the whole set! You may find the answer you were 
> seeking by looking at another relative or relation." *I don't want to 
> specify names unless it is neccisary to do a search because I would not 
> want to miss any cousins that may have been members.  So depending upon the 
> layout of your database Celeste, if this is possible pleaselet me know, if 
> not I can compile a list...


Thanks,

Jeremy G. Berry-Cahn
Researching: Ribeira Seca, Calheta, Faja Dos Cubres
 

>  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

[Cheri Mello]

Jeremy,
Of course she's going to find those surnames. Every organization has them.
You'll have to email Celeste with the full name of your ancestor(s) and
she'll take it from there.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['j Bc' via Azores Genealogy]

I was indeed reffering to the  SPRSI records, although I am ALSO interested 
in those of the UPPEC.
Specifically in Morro Bay/San Luis Obispo County California.  Is there any 
was you might be willing to look for deaths in those areas in your database 
for surnames simalar to: DeTerra/Terra/Reis/ReizCardoza/Cardoso

That would be very interesting.

Thanks

Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Mary Bordi]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> If anyone is from Warm Springs, I would be glad to look but will not be
> home until the end of the month.
>
>
>
I might take you up on that! I have some sort of connection with the Peters
family from Warm Springs that I am trying to uncover. Maybe some of the
womenfolk were members of the SPRSI. I'll send you an email later in the
month (if I remember!)

I know I discussed Warm Springs with someone in the group years ago but I
was away from home and didn't pursue it when I got home.

Mary

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[AZORES-Genealogy] California Portuguese Fraternal organizations

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

I will try to write what I remember about the organizations my family joined in 
California.  

The oldest organization I found was the UPEC.  This was a men only organization 
and I was told that it began because there were families where the husband died 
and there was no money to bury him.  There were "donations" by his friends to 
bury the deceased.  This made sense that a group of men began a "lodge" and 
each member contributed a monthly fee that was used to bury when the member 
died.

In addition to the UPEC there was the IDES (also began with only men).  Again, 
being raised in an immigrant family, I understood the competition that was part 
of what I felt was the Portuguese.  Friends from the same Azore Islands stood 
together and had separate "festias" to celebrate their traditions.

The UPPEC, (women only) was the organization my mother and her family joined.  
In Hayward, CA, the rivalry between the UPPEC and the SPRSI was something I saw 
as a child.  Even to the point that the best friend of one of my aunts rose to 
be the "Supreme President" of the UPPEC while her mother was active in the 
SPRSI.  There was a lot of issues that caused some families to show their 
hostility about some of their friends and relatives that did not participate 
together in one or the other "lodge."

There was a time in the UPPEC (I don't know about other lodges) where "only" 
women of Portuguese descent could join.  That did eventually change.

So, getting back to lodge records.  In Hayward, I had a "connection" to the 
Supreme Council when it moved to an office in Hayward.  My aunt, Esther Sobral, 
was the Supreme Treasurer.  And, my daughter's godmother worked in the office.  
When I began to try to find ancestors places of birth, I looked at some of the 
UPPEC death records and found that some, not all, listed more than Portugal or 
Azores as their place of birth.

Because at that time, there were so many people I met that had no idea they 
needed the village, not just the island, where their ancestor was born to 
search the church records.  Until 1900, the Catholic church ran the country.  
There were no civil records.  So, needing to know what village and church a 
where person was baptized was the only way to begin to confirm their birth.  

I was able to index all the death records for the UPPEC that had not been at 
the house where the very first records were burned in a fire.  Over a period of 
4 years, I did so and when the UPPEC merged with (if I remember correctly) the 
IDES, UPEC, and some others.

At that time, I was told that I would not be able to do any further indexing 
because of "privacy" issues.  So, I have in the database the deaths from 1909 
to 2009.  

I believe that the SPRSI records were taken by the Luso organization when they 
merged with that organization.  There were other smaller Portuguese Lodges, I 
just can't remember all their names.

Hope this helps.  
Celeste
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] HAVING A PROBLEM WITH DA ROCHA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Carmen, da Rocha is the Surname. Some of the Priests have a bad habit of
just dropping the Surname and just writing Jose Ignacio or Manuel
Constantine etc. maybe they are just getting lazy!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:53 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> have a ancestor whose name is either João Inácio or João Inácio da Rocha
>
> his name appears both ways on different documents and i don't know which
> one to use
>
> was wondering if da Rocha was the place where he was from
>
> another problem is none the documents give his parents names nor any names
> on his wife's documents
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting 500 Error message

[Maria Lima]

Okay, I wrote them.  Thanks. 

Maria Elena 

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> You need to report it to the CCA. drac@azores.gov.pt Either English or 
> Portuguese.
> As always, let them know you appreciate all the work they have done on this 
> project.
> 
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> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] HAVING A PROBLEM WITH DA ROCHA

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

have a ancestor whose name is either João Inácio or João Inácio da Rocha

his name appears both ways on different documents and i don't know which one to 
use

was wondering if da Rocha was the place where he was from

another problem is none the documents give his parents names nor any names on 
his wife's documents

thank you

carmen





   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting 500 Error message

[Cheri Mello]

You need to report it to the CCA. drac@azores.gov.pt Either English or
Portuguese.
As always, let them know you appreciate all the work they have done on this
project.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting 500 Error message

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

me too  :(



Carmen
  
   
    


On Wed, 10/12/16, Maria Lima  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Getting 500 Error message
 To: "AZORES" 
 Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 2:28 PM
 
 Hi friends,
 
 Getting a 500 error message while trying to access the
 records today.  Bummer
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Getting 500 Error message

[Maria Lima]

Hi friends,

Getting a 500 error message while trying to access the records today.  Bummer

Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help With Obituary Translation

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for Sue Quinn, sleeq42 at gmail.com
For those who will try to help, I should mention that the record is the
second one on the left page and Antonio Pereira casado com Antonia Rosa is
written in the margin.
Corrected link:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-
SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1841-1860/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-O-1841-1860_item1/P159.html

On the twenty-eighth day of the month of April of the year of one thousand
eight hundred and fifty-eight, having received the Divine Sacraments of the
Sick, died Antonio Pereira, [written between lines is, I believe “resident
behind the peak” which is confirmed in Confessados] married to Antonia
Rosa, eighty-four years old, more or less, ….

The remainder I think says something about being accompanied by the
Reverendo Collegio but there was an impossibility of doing something and
only something else was done in the church.

Then, in the margin is written something about bad weather dealing with the
grave and the deceased.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

OK, I thought he was talking about the UPPEC, women's organization. Now
that you mention it, it was Celeste who did the indexing of the Death
Records of UPPEC. I don't know the years covered though.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> If you are talking about the SPRSI, I don't know if any are stored in any
> location such as the Freitas library, but I do know what happened to
> council 84, Sao Gabriel, which was organized in the Warm Springs area of
> what is now Fremont. All my family was from this area and a little band of
> women held on to the end until they were incorporated into another small
> chapter and eventually, I believe they all went into a bigger organization
> (not home to check my info). Anyway, in the case of council 84, I have the
> original records and did take them to Salt Lake City to be microfilmed
> years ago.
>
> Maybe that could be another project for us Kathy, LOL. The membership book
> is too large for me to scan but we could get what they scanned on our next
> trip to Salt Lake to add to your Dropbox collection.
>
> If anyone is from Warm Springs, I would be glad to look but will not be
> home until the end of the month.
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:33 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> *I don't suppose anyone knows the whereabouts of the women's fraternal
>> records? (I forgot the acronym for the group but I think it starts with an
>> S)*
>>
>
> *I DO know the death books for the Portuguese Union of California from
> 1880-1949 are available at
> http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835
>  *
>
> *JEREMY*
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[AZORES-Genealogy] ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Mary Bordi]

On Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com
> wrote:

> So happy to hear these stories Mary!!
>

I have another one!

I found the husband of a first cousin twice removed listed in the Pescadero
records stating that he was from Topo, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism in
the archives and from that I know the names of his parents and
grandparents. Although he is not my blood relation, there are descendants
of his (and his wife who is my relation) with family trees on Ancestry.

I tried to contact them several years ago but did not get a reply. They
even linked to some family photos I uploaded without contacting me.

Oh well. I'm hoping this information will be useful to them anyway--if
Ancestry gives them the "hint".




Mary











>
> Susan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
>
> More fun from these records! Someone I am researching has the middle
> initial "C". On his draft registration he used the not very Portuguese
> middle name of "Casey". Though he was born in California, both his parents
> are Portuguese. No Irish in his ancestry. :)
>
> His UPEC record lists his middle name as "Casaco" which makes a lot more
> sense. It also lists a wife's name and I did not know about that
> marriage and haven't found anything else about her yet.
>
> I'm sure there is more treasure to be unearthed.
>
> Mary
>
> On Saturday, October 8, 2016, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:
>
>> For the last several years, Susan Vargas Murphy and I have been digitally
>> copying the UPEC membership records that have been filmed by the Family
>> History Library. In the past, I have offered to do lookups from the records
>> I have but that won’t be necessary any longer. I have put these records
>> into my Dropbox and the links are on this page as shareable files:
>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---
>> l/fraternal-societies/upec-records.html
>>
>> You do NOT have to have a Dropbox account in order to see these records.
>> You can view them or download them to your own Dropbox (if you have one) or
>> to your computer.
>>
>> Good luck and happy hunting!
>>
>> Kathy Cardoza
>> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
>> ~~~
>> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Cheri Mello]

The only clue was Jeremy said it started with an "S." And I don't know who
he quoted. Perhaps one of them will check their email on break and get back
to us.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

So happy to hear these stories Mary!!

Susan 

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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Mary Bordi  wrote:
> 
> More fun from these records! Someone I am researching has the middle initial 
> "C". On his draft registration he used the not very Portuguese middle name of 
> "Casey". Though he was born in California, both his parents are Portuguese. 
> No Irish in his ancestry. :)
> 
> His UPEC record lists his middle name as "Casaco" which makes a lot more 
> sense. It also lists a wife's name and I did not know about that marriage and 
> haven't found anything else about her yet. 
> 
> I'm sure there is more treasure to be unearthed. 
> 
> Mary
> 
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2016, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:
>> For the last several years, Susan Vargas Murphy and I have been digitally 
>> copying the UPEC membership records that have been filmed by the Family 
>> History Library. In the past, I have offered to do lookups from the records 
>> I have but that won’t be necessary any longer. I have put these records into 
>> my Dropbox and the links are on this page as shareable files:  
>> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/fraternal-societies/upec-records.html
>> 
>> You do NOT have to have a Dropbox account in order to see these records. You 
>> can view them or download them to your own Dropbox (if you have one) or to 
>> your computer.
>> 
>> Good luck and happy hunting!
>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Cheri Mello]

I'm guessing Jeremy was talking about the SPRSI. He posted an excerpt and I
don't see the original author of the question.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

I think Celeste has UPPEC records (an extra P) .as you always say Cherie, 
alphabet soup! 

Susan 

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> On Oct 12, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> I think Celeste Perry knows about the women's records. SPSSRI???  Something 
> like that.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

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If you are talking about the SPRSI, I don't know if any are stored in any 
location such as the Freitas library, but I do know what happened to council 
84, Sao Gabriel, which was organized in the Warm Springs area of what is now 
Fremont. All my family was from this area and a little band of women held on to 
the end until they were incorporated into another small chapter and eventually, 
I believe they all went into a bigger organization (not home to check my info). 
Anyway, in the case of council 84, I have the original records and did take 
them to Salt Lake City to be microfilmed years ago. 

Maybe that could be another project for us Kathy, LOL. The membership book is 
too large for me to scan but we could get what they scanned on our next trip to 
Salt Lake to add to your Dropbox collection.  

If anyone is from Warm Springs, I would be glad to look but will not be home 
until the end of the month.

Susan Vargas Murphy 



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>> I don't suppose anyone knows the whereabouts of the women's fraternal 
>> records? (I forgot the acronym for the group but I think it starts with an S)
> 
> I DO know the death books for the Portuguese Union of California from 
> 1880-1949 are available at 
> http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

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I think Celeste Perry knows about the women's records. SPSSRI???  Something
like that.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Kathy Cardoza and Susan Murphy have been indexing the death records for the
UPPEC but I think the Membership Rolls are probably at the J.A. Fritas
Library in San Leandro. Kathy is that correct??


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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:33 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
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> *I don't suppose anyone knows the whereabouts of the women's fraternal
>> records? (I forgot the acronym for the group but I think it starts with an
>> S)*
>>
>
> *I DO know the death books for the Portuguese Union of California from
> 1880-1949 are available at
> http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835
>  *
>
> *JEREMY*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

[Kathy Cardoza]

Nooot exactly, Rosemarie. To clarify this, there has been no indexing done. 
We just copied the records that have been microfilmed by the LDS Church. I 
assume that the original records are at the J.A. Fritas Library in San Leandro. 
If someone wants to check to see if their ancestor was in the early UPEC, they 
can do so by going to the Azores GenWeb and clicking the appropriate link 
there. 

Kathy 
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> On Oct 12, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
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> Kathy Cardoza and Susan Murphy have been indexing the death records for the 
> UPPEC but I think the Membership Rolls are probably at the J.A. Fritas 
> Library in San Leandro. Kathy is that correct?? 
> 
> 
> Rosemarie
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> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:33 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
>>> I don't suppose anyone knows the whereabouts of the women's fraternal 
>>> records? (I forgot the acronym for the group but I think it starts with an 
>>> S)
>> 
>> I DO know the death books for the Portuguese Union of California from 
>> 1880-1949 are available at 
>> http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835 
>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ***UPEC ... early membership records now online***

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>
> *I don't suppose anyone knows the whereabouts of the women's fraternal 
> records? (I forgot the acronym for the group but I think it starts with an 
> S)*
>

*I DO know the death books for the Portuguese Union of California from 
1880-1949 are available at 
http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8835 
 *

*JEREMY*

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Widowed woman "mendicante" buried where?

[Maria Lima]

Linda, thank you for clarifying.  Yeah, i saw  those words, "that "she had 
nothing".   I looked to see if it said that in the other obits but it didn't.  
And the priest used the word " VELHA" ( as in old? I wondered ) to punctuate 
her status.  

It saddens me  that with grown children the mother would be homeless.  Does 
mendicante also mean homeless (?) 
Maria Elena 

> On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:34 PM, linda  wrote:
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> 
> Barbara Velha, a widow, an aged beggar, "...died with all the sacraments of 
> the sainted church; she made no will for she had nothing; she was buried in 
> the churchyard near the main door of this church..."
> 
> I've read that in the mid/late19th century, it was the custom that on one day 
> of the week (Sundays, I think, but am not sure now) the poor of a parish 
> would go from door to door collecting alms, and that it was the practice to 
> give something if one could.  The wealthier one was, the more obligated to 
> give alms-- not forgetting the religious obligation as well.  I don't know if 
> this was the case earlier too, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a 
> centuries old tradition.  Anyway, my impression is that begging was sort of 
> an informal socio-religious based welfare system.   
> 
> hope that helps,
> 
> :)
> 
> Linda
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 6:42:23 PM UTC-7, Maria wrote:
>> LEFT side first name- BARBARA VELHA
>> 
>> This is the second widowed woman in the same time frame where the priest 
>> wrote "mendicante" which I think in (spanish) it's a beggar.  Wow!  That 
>> very sad considering they had grown children.  I can visualize them in rags 
>> begging on the street and even though it was so long ago, it breaks my heart 
>> to think they were left to beg when they were widowed.  Maybe there's a 
>> better translation for mendicante.  Also, I couldn't figure out where she 
>> was buried and wondered if someone could translate that about the burial(?) 
>> please?  Some municipal place. 
>> 
>> Thanks!!
>> 
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733_item1/P11.html
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
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