CF MX 6.1 + Linux + Verity = Trouble???

2004-12-16 Thread paris lundis
I was wondering if anyone out there is using CF MX6.1 release on any Red Hat 
version while depending on Verity to provide indexing of their files?

I've read various contradictions on this list and via Macromedia's website 
about support for Verity under Red Hat Linux.

Here's what I need to do:

1. Index recursive collection of files - two seperate collections for two 
seperate directories.

2. Index the small, but soon to grow PDF files.

I tried #1, and Verity created a 500k log sysinfo.log file full of complaints.

As for the PDF part anyone using Red Hat and Verity to successfully index their 
PDFs?

I've created a database generated collection with this configuration and it 
works fine.  Thus the confusion when coupled with contradicting messages out 
here.


-paris lundis 





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RE: Hidding URL -

2003-12-30 Thread paris lundis
Here's my solution and it is adopted from someone else's work... I use it successfully on my PubCrawler.com site to hide emails from spammers of our most valued users who created the most reviews to date... The system uses email values throughout to identify folks... We inherited it that way, but emails are as unique as it gets really so not such a bad concept...

Before continuing see our real example - the query is slow and ran live each time.. so deal with that:

http://www.pubcrawler.com/Template/dsp_100.cfm

save these two files in your directory where your other CFM file calling it is located...

file: act_encrypt.cfm

myEncodedText = tobase64(encrypt(myText,"password"));


file: act_decrypt.cfm

	myDecodedText = decrypt(tostring(tobinary(myEncodedText)),"password");


In the page where you are wanting to encrypt the values ... typically for URL.whatever value passing you do this for each value:



		

if you have more values add another block to handle the other value:



 

Finally you have to assemble the URL with the crypted values:
		

Now on the whatever.cfm destination side you have to decrypt things and make them normal before the rest of your page processes.. otherwise the values will be crypted and your site won't work:

In whatever.cfm:

	
	
	
	
	
	
	 

.. be sure to check to see if the values are there before running that block- isdefined(url.email) and isdefined(url.name)

you now should have the original values unencrypted... you can continue your program and queries here onward...

This solution works wonderfully well.  Email me if you have problems.

-paris

-- Original Message --
From: "Spectrum WebDesign" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:25:22 -0300

>Maybe this works. See:
>
>
>/**
> * Add security by encrypting and decrypting URL variables.
> * 
> * @param cQueryString 	 Query string to encrypt. (Required)
> * @param nKey 	 Key to use for encryption. (Required)
> * @return Returns an encrypted query string. 
> * @author Timothy Heald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> * @version 2, February 19, 2003 
> */
>function urlEncrypt(queryString, key){
>	// encode the string
>	var uue = cfusion_encrypt(queryString, key);
>
>	// make a checksum of the endoed string
>	var checksum = left(hash(uue & key),2);
>
>	// assemble the URL
>	queryString = "/" & uue & checksum &"/index.htm";
>		
>	return queryString;
>}
>
>
>IN: security 
>
>OUT: speed
>
>Encrypt all URL append a index.htm after all encrypted URL...
>
>More details:
>
>http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=203
>
>Great work
>
>
>Thanx all
>- Original Message -
>From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:20:51 -0500
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Hidding URL
>
>> Evaluate what you need to hide. Remember that you can always
>> right-click--view source and see what you are passing. I
>> think that if variables values are that sensitive, you may
>> not want to expose them at all, in which case id use the
>> session scope.
>
>The problem with this is that you can't Ctrl+N to create a new window,
>then go to 2 different parts in the "admin" area of the site
>
>If it comes to this, then you should pass a URL/form variable with the
>different browser, and keep it's related information in the Session
>scope
>
>
>
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Re: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread paris lundis
At the starting level you seem to be at with the site and databases, I'd recommend 
taking the MySQL route  its free... runs on more platforms.. runs darn fast...

If you think your clients/company will be a Windoze shop or clients will be wanting MS 
solutions I'd say pickup MsSQL afterwards...

Simple selects, writes and updates aren't very different between them... syntax can be 
annoying... Transactions and complicated sub queries, mass unions, etc. typically are 
beyond what most folks actually need...

Finally, MySQL + CF can be setup on a smallish computer within your home /office and 
run pretty well...   Be sure to setup dev environment of your own before deploying 
your monster apps...

-paris

-- Original Message --
From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:51:14 -0500

>It's interesting they'd charge you more for MySQL than Access (since I 
>assume they'll have more tech support issues with Access ;)
>
>However, MySQL is not that hard to learn.  You don't have transactional 
>support nor real foreign keys, etc.  There are a number of differences 
>that we've discussed before on this list, and you should be able to pick 
>them up for the archives.
>
>SQL Server might be a better choice - it should be able to recognize 
>your tables/datatypes from Access without any problems, and if you're 
>using things like transactions, the migration should be fairly 
>painless.  _Fairly_ painless, not necessarily totally painless.
>
>Best of luck.
>
>- Jim
>
>Andy Ousterhout wrote:
>
>>Jim,
>>I've asked them to look specifically at the Access connection, because I
>>have heard that also.  They have MySQL and SQL Server, for more $$$.  I also
>>would have to learn them, which would take time.  I was hoping to put off
>>moving to a "real" engine after I had a site that might drive some traffic.
>>I may have to change my plans.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Andy
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:32 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: Urgent: Performance Help
>>
>>
>>Your problem might lie with Access - I've had plenty of problems with
>>Access and ColdFusion - especially with keeping threads open and bogging
>>down the system - and always on servers that handle many simultaneous
>>requests.  Can you use a different database with them?  PostgreSQL?  SQL
>>Server?  MySQL?
>>
>>- Jim
>>
>>Andy Ousterhout wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.
>>>
>>>My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
>>>
>>>
>>they
>>  
>>
>>>should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good news is
>>>
>>>
>>that
>>  
>>
>>>I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't give me any
>>>
>>>
>>details
>>  
>>
>>>because they don't have their analytical software, Cognos, up yet.
>>>
>>>Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try to
>>>figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It runs
>>>fine as a single user on my PC.
>>>
>>>Thanks for anything you can give me
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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RE: Urgent: Performance Help

2003-09-17 Thread paris lundis
Access tends to 'abandon' connections... a fair amount of memory loss with any large 
usage on a server.. Access isn't good at all for shared hosting company 
environments... Easy way to hose a server...

Find out if they have your DSN maintaining connections ... depending on the 
application you will or won't want to enable maintain connections... I have found that 
if your are doing lots of database activity to leave it on with Access...

There is also the timeout to maintain DSN connection... try putting that at 1-5 
minutes.. probably set at 0 default now...

-paris

-- Original Message --
From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:33:45 -0400

>access has been known at some point (amount of connections or maybe
>lines in the database)
>to hose up, what that means? not sure, but I know this, if at all
>possible, STAY AWAY FROM ACCESS
>
>tony
>
>tony weeg
>sr. web applications architect
>navtrak, inc.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>www.navtrak.net
>office 410.548.2337
>fax 410.860.2337
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Urgent: Performance Help
>
>
>No, don't recommend Viagrathe problem is I just won't stop.
>
>My ISP is accusing me of writing code that keeps threads open long after
>they should be closed and are threatening to shut down my site.  Good
>news is that I don't have many users yet, Bad news is that they can't
>give me any details because they don't have their analytical software,
>Cognos, up yet.
>
>Is there a site anywhere that can help we walk through my code and try
>to figure out what the problem is?  Running MX and Microsoft Access.  It
>runs fine as a single user on my PC.
>
>Thanks for anything you can give me
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
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Re: WebDAV exploit?

2003-03-18 Thread paris lundis
no problem here with the patch and CF 5.

-paris

-- Original Message --
From: "Lofback, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:35:40 -0500

>Anybody had a problem with CF5 after applying the patch that corrects the Microsoft 
>WebDAV buffer overflow vulnerability for Win2K/IIS5?  We're looking at patching 
>several CF5 boxes and heard that some folks had problems.
>
>Here's the WebDAV link (watch the wrap!):
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-007.asp
>
>Thanks,
>Chris Lofback
>
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Re: fetching the field type ?

2003-03-18 Thread paris lundis
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>- Original Message -
>From: "paris lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 6:23 AM
>Subject: fetching the field type ?
>
>
>> Working with any database in CF is easy and most of us know where we can
>find the field names of a fetched query - programmatically...
>>
>> Does anyone know off hand if it is possible to retrieve or otherwise
>determine the field types that match the field names? (ie: text(length),
>integer, etc.?)
>>
>> One of those missing pieces to creating some interesting reusable
>widgets..
>>
>> -paris
>>
>> 
>
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RE: fetching the field type ?

2003-03-18 Thread paris lundis
now that's a cool feature of Oracle :)

We are using Access, MySQL and MSSQL 2000... depends on the project/client...

-paris

-- Original Message --
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:28:19 -0600

>what RDBMS are you using?  In Oracle you can hit the data dictionary
>
>SELECT COLUMN_NAME, DATA_TYPE, DATA_LENGTH, NULLABLE, DATA_DEFAULT
>   FROM ALL_TAB_COLUMNS 
>   WHERE TABLE_NAME = 'TABLE_NAME' 
>   ORDER BY COLUMN_ID
>
>Doug
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 1:24 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: fetching the field type ?
>>
>>
>>Working with any database in CF is easy and most of us know 
>>where we can find the field names of a fetched query - 
>>programmatically... 
>>
>>Does anyone know off hand if it is possible to retrieve or 
>>otherwise determine the field types that match the field 
>>names? (ie: text(length), integer, etc.?)
>>
>>One of those missing pieces to creating some interesting 
>>reusable widgets..
>>
>>-paris
>>
>>
>
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fetching the field type ?

2003-03-18 Thread paris lundis
Working with any database in CF is easy and most of us know where we can find the 
field names of a fetched query - programmatically... 

Does anyone know off hand if it is possible to retrieve or otherwise determine the 
field types that match the field names? (ie: text(length), integer, etc.?)

One of those missing pieces to creating some interesting reusable widgets..

-paris

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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread paris lundis
I have been through the hoops of design environments, web development firms and 
programmers...

Most design folks across the board should quit what they are doing.. some are good 
because they have excellent color theory and shape arrangement... Some just use really 
pretty Tony Stone type stock images...

Not many carry longevity of design and timelessness... That is what makes design good 
- long term beauty and functionality that is obvious.. 

Flash developers make bad web interface people look like mega-talented people... Even 
a good Flash developer is prone to making text 6 point, because he/she can and because 
it fits more and looks great on their 21 inch monitor... Interface elements that 
unfold and serve for multi functional items shouldn't be flat in appearance or appear 
abstract - they should work and look like things people are already familiar with...

Now for Neilsen, I am inches shy of calling him a nutcase...  He is an extreme example 
of bad design himself... He rips apart known sites in his book for examples then shows 
his own site work, which is an utter disaster...  Does one need to be a designer to 
say what works and doesn't? Well no, but they should have some suitable examples that 
work, not text loaded geek droppings...

When developing a website think of it like creating a movie... This analogy certainly 
is pretty exact for Flash... But it also readily applies to non-flashers too...

To create a movie you need a writer, editors, actors, voice people, special effects, 
camera people, lights, sound and film editors.  For a HTMl based site you need to: 
storyboard, write copy, outline, implement wireframe, fill in wireframe (program and 
HTMl markup), provide graphic dressup and develop middleware.. and if you are lucky, 
focus group study a segment of your users and modify as needed...

Unfortunatly, most web projects are done incredibly under budget compared to what 
their expectations are... Causing technical people to fill roles and do work solely at 
the direction of the client or a graphic designer... A client who has their 
preferences in mind or a designer who wants the site to be pretty and print and work 
like paper..

Macromedia's new site is a radical deviation from 95% of the worlds expectation and 
basis of the web... They violate the sound concept of no more than 15% deviation from 
established standards... They also use their marketshare distribution concept of 
adopted Flash installation base to shove Flash into your browser...  Would it be any 
more wise to push movies and sounds to you like some cheesy sites do?

On the other side, the idea of more rich on demand Flash type services online to view 
media and distribute is upon us... Hopefully Macromedia will learn what we all did 
years ago- create a site for for each specific lot of people based on unique needs... 
whether it be sight impaired or those who use Netscape or IE...

-paris

-- Original Message --
From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed,  5 Mar 2003 13:18:39 -0800

>Joshua wrote:
>>All due respect to Mr. Neilsen, but he's a boring old codger. 
>
>Yes, he is an extremist.  However you will be more successful at his extreme than at 
>the other end.  Take his side and then deviate from it a bit and you'll be doing very 
>well.
>
>>usability, but a lot of his ideas are contrary to what has 
>>worked in print marketing for decades. 
>
>
>
>Don't take this personally, but I see this as the classic mistake made by 
>design-oriented developers, especially those with a print media background.  If I was 
>allowed to point to only one common error thats been around since Day 1 this would be 
>it.  I did print advertising production for years, and one of the first, hardest 
>lessons I learned was that web and print are two entirely different animals, although 
>many - mostly marketing types and graphic artists - don't see it that way.  The two 
>compare to one another very poorly on a number of fronts, not the least of which is 
>the necessary abandonment of the microscopic level of control we have over the output 
>seen by the customer/victim when using print media.
>
>Plus, navigation is a non-issue on an advertisement, brochure or book: turn the page. 
> Then there's the issue of attention span... an entirely different one on print 
>media, where you're strictly looking at grabbing an eyeball and holding onto it for a 
>few seconds.  We all know the issues to consider are far more complex on the web.
>
>In print usability is a very limited concept relegated to being able to read the 
>thing.  Thats not the case here.  Consider for two seconds how successful a web site 
>is if its pretty and engaging, but no one can navigate thru it for God-Knows-How-Many 
>reasons that we could all easily recite.  No matter what, aesthetics comes in well 
>behind usability on a piece of software, which is what web apps really are.
>
>
>
>--

RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread paris lundis
Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere... it's bad design, slow 
and confusing in many regards...

They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this morning to 
find the Exchanges... had to use the site map  

That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make me feel the site is 
any more responsive...

Hopefully they revise this...

Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of files initially... you 
have to go to a right side of screen block to select show newest...  a change from how 
it historically has worked...

But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)

-p

-- Original Message --
From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - 

>I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button problem
>which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
>
>
>Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
>:)
>
>Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
>though!
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!
>
>Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)
>
>The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a 
>little slow in places).
>
>Well done MM.
>
>
>
>
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Re: zip+4 lookup?

2003-02-26 Thread Paris Lundis
note what they say about their web tool...

ZIP+4 Lookup is intended for interactive use, not automated script
processing. Although we do not intend to impose a limit on the number of
address inquiries we allow a customer to request in a given session. If
we determine that our open-access policy is being abused or
overburdened, we will have to review it. Regardless, we do not intend to
offer batch processing capabilities via this service.

Customers who wish to perform batch address processing should explore
the following options:

Commercial Address-Matching Options
Address-Matching Software Development

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: Jann VanOver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:21:20 -0800
Subject: Re: zip+4 lookup?

> Al, have you checked out http://www.uspswebtools.com/ ??
> 
> A lot of good stuff there.
> 
> On 2/25/03 7:47 PM, "Al Musella, DPM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >  Does anyone happen to have code to lookup a zip+4 code given the
> street
> > address?You can get the zip+4 off the post office website at
> > http://www.usps.com/zip4/  but I am having problems using cfhttp to
> post
> > the request...
> > 
> > Al
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: Transferring Files between Web Servers

2003-02-10 Thread Paris Lundis
post your code and that will allow for some meaningful review... 

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Matthew Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 22:56:24 -0500
Subject: Transferring Files between Web Servers

> I need to be able to copy a file a single web server over a clustered
> environment.
> 
> I tried using the CFfile but the I get an error
> 
> Error: The network path was not found.
> 
> I tried to mount the drive under the Admin profile but I can not get
> the
> seem to get the network connection.
> 
> I tried to use the IP address also and I get an error
> Error: Access is denied. (error 5).
> 
> Is there any why to do this, I do not want to have to FTP between the
> boxes
> that are networked together, it would be a huge wait of processor and
> bandwidth.
> 
> Any help would be great.
> 
> Matthew Friedman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SQL Worm

2003-01-27 Thread Paris Lundis
10 Gbps firewall.. sure... distributed firewalls.. multiples... There 
certainly are companies running such...

The point about it being an open network for innovation is a big deal 
considering it is indeed open and subject to all the tortures...  
Perhaps the firewall type ideas could be used defensively to insulate 
when things like this do occur...  A reactive measure...

I agree about the UDP on production being unnecessary Actually, a 
lot of networking should be cut and pure IP only I believe 

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-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:19:54 +0100
Subject: Re: SQL Worm

> Paris Lundis wrote:
> > A good summary Jochem would be for folks to tune the firewall and 
> > ensure permissions/allowable IP list...
> 
> Since when can you even buy a 10 Gbps firewall?
> 
> 
> > In your environment you point out the user base... 8000...
> agreeable... 
> > large base for things...
> > 
> > Tune the firewall and restrict traffic there ... allowing like port
> 80 
> > in and out disbaling all other services and ports, except those in
> a 
> > defined list of authrozied servers...
> 
> All 8000 systems are authorized servers. About 65525 of 65536 ports
> are 
> authorized ports. You can't firewall a production network where the 
> product is (supposed to be) innovation.
> 
> 
> I think we have had this discussion last week already, but firewalls
> are 
> not the answer to all problems. Sure, properly secured firewalls on 
> machines running MS SQL Server would have prevented this issue (at 
> least, nobody has convinced me that UDP should be allowed to a 
> production server at all). But there are allways other scenario's
> where 
> a firewall would not help. In the end, vigilance on all the aspects
> of 
> security is the only way to make sure problems like this worm don't 
> cause a total meltdown of the internet.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 
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RE: Load Balancing: Disk Options?

2003-01-27 Thread Paris Lundis
No matter what you implement there are bound to be issues... Here is 
the list I have as a set base of consideration:

1. Synchronization can take time ... Solution:   have synchronization 
run at file / OS level to distribute new items... Problem: lots of 
simultaneous access could make the site perform poorly or even crash...

2. Multiple synchronizers can cause things to be out of sequence..
Solution: centralize synchronization - parent to children 
relationship.. Problem: Single point of failure on the parent - 
implement 2 parents...

3. Backup and security... Both have unique needs and windows of 
time...  Solution: Create N+1 spare duplicate to keep a snapshot of all 
data for backup and security considertations offline...

Those are my major items...

Best thing to do:

1. Implement NAS
2. Implement duplicates of NAS via Samba on various Unix varieties
3. Run commercial or CLI unix type sychronizers...
4. Parse data out of CF and have mechanism to do a bulk update... setup 
a scheduled event to parse out all new pages on some schedule 
to 'refresh' / validate everything...

Still some mechanism for making the parent  - the NAS - redundant are 
needed.. That could be done by putting a spare NIC in each NAS type box 
and exchanging data, or a P2P small server/client app (best idea)..

-paris


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-Original Message-
From: "Ben Koshy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 01:25:26 -0800
Subject: RE: Load Balancing: Disk Options?

> That solution doesn't sound very clean, especially if one mapped
> drive
> is down and we have to trap & catch errors when one disk is down. 
> Then
> after the drives get out of sync, some sort of sychronization would
> have
> to be initiated, plus we would have to determine which drive is out
> of
> sync.  I'd rather use a solution that's transparent to ColdFusion
> Server.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SQL Worm

2003-01-26 Thread Paris Lundis
A good summary Jochem would be for folks to tune the firewall and 
ensure permissions/allowable IP list...

I know one of our enviroments runs machines with no patches and very 
screwed up management approach... Meaning things are far from right, 
even though we tell them about it all the time...

However, we have a firebox II sitting in front locked down fairly 
good... The worm didn't effect the environment nor have any of the 
previous security items...

In your environment you point out the user base... 8000... agreeable... 
large base for things...

Tune the firewall and restrict traffic there ... allowing like port 80 
in and out disbaling all other services and ports, except those in a 
defined list of authrozied servers  

That is how I would stab the issue..

-p

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-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:18:00 +0100
Subject: Re: SQL Worm

> Paris Lundis wrote:
> > 
> > It would seem that having a local university private subnet would
> be a 
> > good solution.. and also this would cut down on people running un-
> > authorized servers...
> 
> Why would servers be unauthorized? If you have a CS department you 
> *want* people to run servers (as long as they secure them). Where do
> you 
> think I run all my stuff ;-)
> 
> 
> > On the router side or NAT you could do port translation and make
> things 
> > further "burried"...
> 
> How are you going to do NAT for 8000 computers in student dorms if at
> the same time you want those people to be able to run servers?
> 
> 
> > In our environments to eliminate this sort of problem, we issue a
> dual 
> > IP... the private ip range say 192.168.1.xxx or one of the other 3 
> > permissible private ranges goes along to the user along with their 
> > public IP...
> > 
> > Any App server needing to talk to the database must do so on the
> local 
> > IP segment otherwise it won't work...
> 
> Dual IP's won't fix this scenario. Just imagine somebody running a 
> testserver in a dorm on with both a public and a private IP. He gets 
> infected through the public one, yet he passes the infection on
> through 
> the private one.
> 
> 
> But to get back on topic, the thing I don't understand about this MS
> SQL 
> Server worm, why would a MS SQL Server have UDP allowed in the local 
> firewall in the first place (regardless of IP restrictions)? I find
> it 
> hard to imagine some part of the wire protocol being dependent on
> UDP, 
> and from what I read it is mainly for troubleshooting (much like the 
> HTTP TRACE command ;-) we have been hearing from lately).
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SQL Worm

2003-01-26 Thread Paris Lundis
Jesse,

Pretty cool university there Promoting experimentation :) Ideally 
the big pipes there aren't clogged with po*n and wa*ez like here...

With the issue of two servers that need synched and are not local, 
there is that concept of a WAN to review  private still but 
accessible in a secure manner...

VPN indeed is costly and complex to maintain... 

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-Original Message-
From: Jesse Houwing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:52:36 +0100
Subject: Re: SQL Worm

> >
> >
> >It would seem that having a local university private subnet would be
> a 
> >good solution.. and also this would cut down on people running un-
> >authorized servers...
> >
> On the University Of Twente (The Netherlands) we are allowed to run
> our 
> own servers, and are even encouraged to do so, as there is a lot to 
> learn from toying around with the different beasts out there.
> 
> >On the router side or NAT you could do port translation and make
> things 
> >further "burried"...
> >
> >In our environments to eliminate this sort of problem, we issue a
> dual 
> >IP... the private ip range say 192.168.1.xxx or one of the other 3 
> >permissible private ranges goes along to the user along with their 
> >public IP...
> >
> >Any App server needing to talk to the database must do so on the
> local 
> >IP segment otherwise it won't work...
> >
> This will work until you have two sql-servers on two locations that
> need 
> to be synchronized. (VPN comes to mind, but not everyone has the
> money 
> or the knowlege to set up such services)
> 
> >I understand that the approach has complexity issues when dealing
> with 
> >fluid usage like your own... The approach does solve a few problems 
> >when perfected... It makes your databases and other key assets non-
> >accessible publically... requiring someone login securely to a
> public 
> >box to access the private resource...
> >  
> >
> If you can live with those restrictions, it is a good solution, but 
> still, if  one of these public boxes wasn't as secure as you thought,
> someone could still break open your complete network. Security is
> only 
> as good as its weakest link.
> 
> Jesse
> 
> 
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Re: Microsoft Bashing - Was: RE:SQL Worm

2003-01-26 Thread Paris Lundis
Pretty poetic... The CF-Talk group tends to be the folks in the 
ditches.. A few of us own our own thing and do well, but no one I know 
of has 10k employees and all that jazz...

It seems pretty irresponsible to have issues like this worm... I know 
from having maintained environments that needed to support 100 
difficult users with all of their different needs that securing an 
environment takes a strategy no matter what the platform...

Saying you are too big or the problem is too complex just can't be 
allowed to cut it... Liability in my opinion is and has been the 
largest issue businesses face... Say we adopt the same big argument to 
hospitals.. Next thing you know your employee knows about those stress 
meds you have been taking...  Thus HIPAA was created to neutralize the 
irresponsible...

Similiarly, there should be a standards measure that anyone with a 
public facing resource should clearly be able to say they have made the 
best and most calculated base to ensure the reliability and security 
thereof 

If such were upheld/created, fending off lawsuits and government 
regulation as well as lost business would be more honest and easy...

No one would listen if Boeing airplanes started falling out of the sky 
and the men on the line said oh we produce tons of them...  No one 
would listen if their financial data were disclosed and they were 
defrauded...

Protecting your enviroment should be a portion of identifiable time you 
spend or someone in your organization spends in an ongoing manner... If 
you don't have the luxury you will when something fatal happens... And 
remember to yell out the names of your bosses who told you to overlook 
it... Overlook it like the factory worker allowing EPA unapproved 
liquids and gases to sneak out of the plant when told to...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:51:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Microsoft Bashing - Was: RE:SQL Worm

> > This needs to go off to some other place.
> >
> > However, I wonder why people say this.
> > It's VERY easy to arm chair quarterback.
> > But not so easy to run a multi-billion
> > dollar corporation with hundreds of
> > thousands of employees, hundreds of
> > products and being in virtually every
> > part of the world.
> 
> This is the epitome of arm-chair quarterbacking.
> 
> What did our financials look like for last year?
>   ... blah blah...
> 
> What are people buying?
>   ... blah blah...
> 
> Take the money we made last year and make more of that stuff.
>   Yes Sir.
> 
> But the presidents and executives and trustees of a multinational
> conglomerate I think ultimately have little ability to control the
> machine
> -- they can only make decisions in such broad strokes as to
> ultimately end
> up being nearly superfluous themselves. Take the CEO of any given
> multinational corp. away and someone else steps in and usually makes
> roughly
> the same decisions. Sure, there are semantic changes -- one guy's
> more
> popular with trustees a, b and c, and the other guy is more popular
> with
> trustees x, y and z, but that doesn't usually dramatically change his
> ability to influence the board, etc... Of course, fraud and some
> other less
> than desireable actions can dramatically change an individual's
> ability to
> influence a company, re: Enron & MCI. But then these things likely
> affect
> the quality of their product very little and I doubt many individuals
> earning well over 6 figures really care in particular about the
> quality of
> their company's product anyway. At 6 figures it would be very
> difficult to
> squander enough money to significantly affect your standard of
> living.
> 
> > At any rate.. Let's take this somewhere else..
> > It's not tech oriented around CF.
> 
> Arm chair quarterbacking are we?
> 
> 
> 
> s. isaac dealey954-776-0046
> 
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RE: Load Balancing: Disk Options?

2003-01-26 Thread Paris Lundis
NAS is the best way I would say...

You can create a NAS solution on the cheap with a server + multiple NIC 
cards + a few drives much cheaper than the store bought ready 
made 'products' that in essence are just the same thing with a small 
amount of 'management' tools...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Kevin Langevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:44:40 -0500
Subject: RE: Load Balancing: Disk Options?

> What about mapping two different drives from all three servers, and
> having
> your CF solution write the files to both mapped drives?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Koshy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:55 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Load Balancing: Disk Options?
> 
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
> Just wondering if you can shed some advice on a couple load balancing
> issues.  We're moving to a 3 Server Cluster running Cold Fusion 5.0
> using a Foundry Server Iron XL.  We've got the Load Balancing Part
> down
> and it works great.
> 
> However, now we turn our attention to the Cold Fusion
> Server...because
> the site receives a lot of "files", we need some way of consolodating
> the upload directory or directories and still maintain redundancy. 
> Also
> it would be nice having to update Cold Fusion files on one server/one
> place as well.
> 
> We're using the Windows Platform so options like:
> 
> A) Map a Drive to A Common Directory/Drive on Another Computer
> B) Network Attached Storage
> C) File Replication / Synchronization between Servers.
> 
> Anyone have recommendations?  Remember we want to maintain redundancy
> so
> mapping a drive to a single machine seems to be out.  Another way
> would
> be to go NAS, but are there any cheap redundant NAS clustering
> solutions
> out there?  File Replication sounds promising but I'm worried about
> replication lag and stuff...
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Ben.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SQL Worm

2003-01-26 Thread Paris Lundis
Jochem,

It would seem that having a local university private subnet would be a 
good solution.. and also this would cut down on people running un-
authorized servers...

On the router side or NAT you could do port translation and make things 
further "burried"...

In our environments to eliminate this sort of problem, we issue a dual 
IP... the private ip range say 192.168.1.xxx or one of the other 3 
permissible private ranges goes along to the user along with their 
public IP...

Any App server needing to talk to the database must do so on the local 
IP segment otherwise it won't work...

I understand that the approach has complexity issues when dealing with 
fluid usage like your own... The approach does solve a few problems 
when perfected... It makes your databases and other key assets non-
accessible publically... requiring someone login securely to a public 
box to access the private resource...


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-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:58:10 +0100
Subject: Re: SQL Worm

> Paris Lundis wrote:
> > 
> > God forgive any Schmoe who runs their SQL server on a direct net 
> > connected box ...
> 
> Sometimes you have little choice. If your university has 3 /16's and 
> people have mobile workplaces with IP addresses from all over them 
> leaving all 3 /16's open to the server is pretty much your only
> choice. 
> Then throw in a few CS students [1] running unpatched MS SQL Server 
> installs in their dorms within those 3 /16's and suddenly the vector
> is 
> inside your own network.
> You don't always have as much control over your network as you would
> like.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> [1] Amazingly enough all MS SQL Servers here that were run by non-CS 
> students were properly secured (or at least didn't show any confirmed
> infections).
> 
> 
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Re: SQL Worm

2003-01-25 Thread Paris Lundis
Of course it is irresponsible.. undoubtedly, some admins did patch and 
over patched and might have still had the barn door wide open...

Most admins probably were too busy doing 10 other people's job in this 
lean economy or too disinterested playing another round of their 
favorite game 

So only 4 excuses...

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-Original Message-
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hastings)>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:15:46 +0700
Subject: Re: SQL Worm

> > Just one more reason why SQL server doesn't cut it...
> 
> thats nonsense.
> 
> > God forgive any Schmoe who runs their SQL server on a direct net
> > connected box ...
> 
> this is a worm from july 2002! only a monkey drunk on cheap thai beer
> admin
> hasn't patched their systems since then. if you must, get their
> names, get
> their addresses & send them a bill but stop talking nonsense.
> 
> 
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RE: SQL Worm

2003-01-25 Thread Paris Lundis
I won't bash their products any longer... Just the irresponsible system 
admins that don't patch...

I happen to use Microsoft products... sometimes for good reasons... 
sometimes for historical mind washing.. other times because the market 
dictates it...

Sorry if you were vicimized today by the worm...

Everyone should get familiarized with MicroSoft's Basline Security 
Analyzer.. a nice attempt to bring things together and make determining 
what is outdated/insecure in a more civilized manner...

No matter what, putting your SQL server up there via IP for the world 
to smack is just irresponsible  There are all the OS issues plus 
the SQL plus things like DOS attacks that could put your data away... 
not to mention making a nice candy store for a successful hack 
attempt...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: <"Tangorre>,Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 01:14:36 -0500
Subject: RE: SQL Worm

> exactly. I wish people would quit bashing M$ and their products. I
> got an idea, if you don't like it, stop wasting space with idiotic
> comments; program your own.
>  
> moving on..
>  
>  
> 
>   -Original Message- 
>   From: Andrew Tyrone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>   Sent: Sat 1/25/2003 9:32 PM 
>   To: CF-Talk 
>   Cc: 
>   Subject: RE: SQL Worm
>   
>   
> 
>   > -Original Message-
>   > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:18 PM
>   > To: CF-Talk
>   > Subject: Re: SQL Worm
>   >
>   >
>   > Just one more reason why SQL server doesn't cut it...
>   >
>   > God forgive any Schmoe who runs their SQL server on a direct 
net
>   > connected box ...
>   
>   If they're an intelligent Schmoe then they weren't vulnerable to
> this worm;
>   it has nothing to do with SQL Server not "cutting it".  Bugs and
>   vulnerabilities in software are a fact of life; these are not
> limited to
>   Microsoft products, either.  The blame here lies with system
> administrators
>   and those who fall into the "everything is someone else's fault"
> group.
>   
>   
>   
> 
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Re: SQL Worm

2003-01-25 Thread Paris Lundis
Just one more reason why SQL server doesn't cut it...

God forgive any Schmoe who runs their SQL server on a direct net 
connected box ...


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-Original Message-
From: Frank Mamone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:41:49 -0500
Subject: SQL Worm

> You probably already know about this : 
> 
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/01/25/internet.attack/index.htm
> l
> 
> I can't get to a few servers.
> 
> 
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RE: Strange Button Behavior

2003-01-23 Thread Paris Lundis
Yeah if you would share that would be cool...

Bloggers are really just a content management software... Very correct 
to say that... CMS indeed...

MySQL conversion would be too nice of you... I can deal with Access 
(yes I use it still for some projects)... 

Feel free to zip it all up and send it to this email account... Bed 
beckons... 7am comes too soon!

-paris


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-Original Message-
From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 01:18:14 -0600
Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior

> I think you'd be surprised--there are TONS of pieces of blogger code
> out
> there--just not much in CF at all.  A couple.
> 
> I sent someone else a very, very basic outline of a blog that I built
> in
> CFMX & Access in just about an hour and I'm happy to zip it up and
> send
> it along the way.  I can convert the db to mySQL if you need that,
> too.
> 
> This is basic CMS, in my opinion.  On the asp site, we actually have
> built in the whole "flow" for posting, etc.  Writers post, I get an
> email/page and then I take it live upon editing.
> 
> I digress.  Anyone know what's up with my buttons?  Heh...
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:41 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > 
> > 
> > Yea been considering rolling a blogger of my own...  Amazingly, I 
> > haven't really found anyone's code floating around... One of the
> few 
> > apps there aren't an over abundance of... 
> > 
> > Your older ASP site has a lot of functionality...clicked through it
> > earlier... good stuff as well..
> > 
> > 
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:21:40 -0600
> > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > 
> > > Actually, it's modeled loosely after a blog that we built 
> > in .asp and
> > > Access 2 years ago today (www.unrealisticexpectations.com) 
> > that has a
> > > lot more functionality and took A LOT longer to build.
> > > 
> > > The site that you saw has been designed and brought to
> functionality
> > > and
> > > release in a week's time.
> > > 
> > > I really appreciate the compliment!
> > > 
> > > Russ
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:56 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > That blogger looks great :) someone brewing their own in CF ?
> > > > Paris Lundis
> > > > Founder
> > > > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > > > http://www.areaindex.com
> > > > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > > > 412-292-3135
> > > > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in 
> > the present]
> > > > [connecting people, places and things]
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:30:05 -0600
> > > > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > > > 
> > > > > I certainly can--how about a url instead?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Test site:  http://12.251.119.254/ricsoens/blog.cfm?blogID=8
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:57 PM
> > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Russ:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can you post your code?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -

Re: simple tag aint working

2003-01-22 Thread Paris Lundis
Ya. That was when we picked CF up... 

Nice to know there are some group habits and mannerisms if you will :)

-p

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-Original Message-
From: Kwang Suh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:43:30 -0700
Subject: Re: simple tag aint working

> In CF3.0, the use of pound signs was very ambiguous.  So, everybody
> put
> pound signs around anything that wasn't a cf tag.  I think MM left it
> in
> that way for backwards compatibility.  That or they're lazy :)
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:32 PM
> Subject: RE: simple tag aint working
> 
> 
> > The article is found:
> > http://www.defusion.com/articles/index.cfm?ArticleID=26
> >
> > Somewhat logical... It's funny that the syntax is even
> permitted...I am
> > so sure I am no the only person writing code with the unneeded
> > pounds...Most people seem to be based on the code I see..
> >
> > That has to be the #1 item of bad programming for CF...
> >
> > In MX has the pound purity been better defined??... We still run
> > CF5.0...
> >
> > Thanks for the info... Reminds me of one of those moments when you
> > realize you have been saying a word incorrectly for eons...
> >
> >
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mosh Teitelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:58:53 -0500
> > Subject: RE: simple tag aint working
> >
> > > Actually, the pound signs aren't needed since the functions
> (Hour()
> > > and
> > > Now()) are being used inside of a CF tag and are not enclosed by
> > > quotes.
> > > Using them won't mess anything up, but they're not needed so it's
> > > considered
> > > bad form to use them.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mosh Teitelbaum
> > > evoch, LLC
> > > Tel: (301) 625-9191
> > > Fax: (301) 933-3651
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:22 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Re: simple tag aint working
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > >
> > > > Password.. what ya handing out...
> > > >
> > > > Here's your code corrected:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >  Good morning early bird
> > > >  
> > > >  Good Afternoon
> > > >  
> > > >  Good Evening
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > > The AND condition requires the comparison value Hour(NOW()) be
> > > > available on the second part as well...
> > > >
> > > > You also left the pounds off of things.
> > > >
> > > > -paris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paris Lundis
> > > > Founder
> > > > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > > > http://www.areaindex.com
> > > > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > > > 412-292-3135
> > > > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
> present]
> > > > [connecting people, places and things]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:07:15 -0500
> > > > Subject: simple tag aint working
> > > >
> > > > > finally getting around to playing with cf
> > > > > i am trying to make a simple time of day greeting
> > > > > but i am getting an error for a closing  tag but I
> cant
> > > put it
> > > > > where it says to and when i do It still errors
> > > > > I'll get you a password tony if you show me the light, lol
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Good morning early bird
> > > > >   
> > > > >   Good Afternoon
> > > > >   
> > > > >   Good Evening
> > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Lyons
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > www.DreamLofts.com
> > > > > www.DreamLofts-WebDesigns.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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RE: Strange Button Behavior

2003-01-22 Thread Paris Lundis
Yea been considering rolling a blogger of my own...  Amazingly, I 
haven't really found anyone's code floating around... One of the few 
apps there aren't an over abundance of... 

Your older ASP site has a lot of functionality...clicked through it 
earlier... good stuff as well..


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-Original Message-
From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:21:40 -0600
Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior

> Thanks!
> 
> Actually, it's modeled loosely after a blog that we built in .asp and
> Access 2 years ago today (www.unrealisticexpectations.com) that has a
> lot more functionality and took A LOT longer to build.
> 
> The site that you saw has been designed and brought to functionality
> and
> release in a week's time.
> 
> I really appreciate the compliment!
> 
> Russ
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:56 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > 
> > 
> > That blogger looks great :) someone brewing their own in CF ?
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:30:05 -0600
> > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > 
> > > I certainly can--how about a url instead?
> > > 
> > > Test site:  http://12.251.119.254/ricsoens/blog.cfm?blogID=8
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:57 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Russ:
> > > > 
> > > > Can you post your code?
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Mosh Teitelbaum
> > > > evoch, LLC
> > > > Tel: (301) 625-9191
> > > > Fax: (301) 933-3651
> > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:20 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: Strange Button Behavior
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've got a form that I give the option to PREVIEW a users 
> > > > information in
> > > > > a popup window or they can simply submit their information
> > > without a
> > > > > preview.
> > > > >
> > > > > Submitting without preview offers no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Previewing offers no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, when I submit AFTER a preview, there is no submit. 
> > > >  Instead,
> > > > > it's another preview, but in a new popup window; not 
> > > > preview sized, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone assist me in the correction of this or the 
> > > > location of what
> > > > > the problem is?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Russ
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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RE: Strange Button Behavior

2003-01-22 Thread Paris Lundis
That blogger looks great :) someone brewing their own in CF ?
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-Original Message-
From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:30:05 -0600
Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior

> I certainly can--how about a url instead?
> 
> Test site:  http://12.251.119.254/ricsoens/blog.cfm?blogID=8
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:57 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Strange Button Behavior
> > 
> > 
> > Russ:
> > 
> > Can you post your code?
> > 
> > --
> > Mosh Teitelbaum
> > evoch, LLC
> > Tel: (301) 625-9191
> > Fax: (301) 933-3651
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:20 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Strange Button Behavior
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've got a form that I give the option to PREVIEW a users 
> > information in
> > > a popup window or they can simply submit their information
> without a
> > > preview.
> > >
> > > Submitting without preview offers no problems.
> > >
> > > Previewing offers no problems.
> > >
> > > However, when I submit AFTER a preview, there is no submit. 
> >  Instead,
> > > it's another preview, but in a new popup window; not 
> > preview sized, etc.
> > >
> > > Can anyone assist me in the correction of this or the 
> > location of what
> > > the problem is?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Russ
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> 
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RE: simple tag aint working

2003-01-22 Thread Paris Lundis
The article is found:
http://www.defusion.com/articles/index.cfm?ArticleID=26

Somewhat logical... It's funny that the syntax is even permitted...I am 
so sure I am no the only person writing code with the unneeded 
pounds...Most people seem to be based on the code I see..

That has to be the #1 item of bad programming for CF...

In MX has the pound purity been better defined??... We still run 
CF5.0...

Thanks for the info... Reminds me of one of those moments when you 
realize you have been saying a word incorrectly for eons...


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-Original Message-
From: Mosh Teitelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:58:53 -0500
Subject: RE: simple tag aint working

> Actually, the pound signs aren't needed since the functions (Hour()
> and
> Now()) are being used inside of a CF tag and are not enclosed by
> quotes.
> Using them won't mess anything up, but they're not needed so it's
> considered
> bad form to use them.
> 
> --
> Mosh Teitelbaum
> evoch, LLC
> Tel: (301) 625-9191
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> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:22 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: simple tag aint working
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Password.. what ya handing out...
> >
> > Here's your code corrected:
> >
> > 
> >  Good morning early bird
> >  
> >  Good Afternoon
> >  
> >  Good Evening
> >  
> >
> > The AND condition requires the comparison value Hour(NOW()) be
> > available on the second part as well...
> >
> > You also left the pounds off of things.
> >
> > -paris
> >
> >
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:07:15 -0500
> > Subject: simple tag aint working
> >
> > > finally getting around to playing with cf
> > > i am trying to make a simple time of day greeting
> > > but i am getting an error for a closing  tag but I cant
> put it
> > > where it says to and when i do It still errors
> > > I'll get you a password tony if you show me the light, lol
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Good morning early bird
> > >   
> > >   Good Afternoon
> > >   
> > >   Good Evening
> > >   
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Lyons
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > www.DreamLofts.com
> > > www.DreamLofts-WebDesigns.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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Re: simple tag aint working

2003-01-22 Thread Paris Lundis
Yeah it does work without them... I use them to stay in the habit... :)


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-Original Message-
From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:28:48 -0500
Subject: Re: simple tag aint working

> hiding??? who me haha
> i thought about the #'s but works without them
> but thanks!
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:22 PM
> Subject: Re: simple tag aint working
> 
> 
> > Dave,
> >
> > Password.. what ya handing out...
> >
> > Here's your code corrected:
> >
> > 
> >  Good morning early bird
> >  
> >  Good Afternoon
> >  
> >  Good Evening
> >  
> >
> > The AND condition requires the comparison value Hour(NOW()) be
> > available on the second part as well...
> >
> > You also left the pounds off of things.
> >
> > -paris
> >
> >
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:07:15 -0500
> > Subject: simple tag aint working
> >
> > > finally getting around to playing with cf
> > > i am trying to make a simple time of day greeting
> > > but i am getting an error for a closing  tag but I cant
> put it
> > > where it says to and when i do It still errors
> > > I'll get you a password tony if you show me the light, lol
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Good morning early bird
> > >   
> > >   Good Afternoon
> > >   
> > >   Good Evening
> > >   
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Lyons
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > www.DreamLofts.com
> > > www.DreamLofts-WebDesigns.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> 
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Re: simple tag aint working

2003-01-22 Thread Paris Lundis
Dave,

Password.. what ya handing out...

Here's your code corrected:


 Good morning early bird
 
 Good Afternoon
 
 Good Evening
 

The AND condition requires the comparison value Hour(NOW()) be 
available on the second part as well...

You also left the pounds off of things.

-paris


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-Original Message-
From: "Dave Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:07:15 -0500
Subject: simple tag aint working

> finally getting around to playing with cf
> i am trying to make a simple time of day greeting
> but i am getting an error for a closing  tag but I cant put it
> where it says to and when i do It still errors
> I'll get you a password tony if you show me the light, lol
> 
> 
> 
>   Good morning early bird
>   
>   Good Afternoon
>   
>   Good Evening
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Dave Lyons
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.DreamLofts.com
> www.DreamLofts-WebDesigns.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CFserver Timesout when uploading a 13mb file

2003-01-20 Thread Paris Lundis
Yeah, I can attest to it being totally like a DOS attack under CF5... 
that's what we still run...

I have ran it on the same switch with the same computer feeding the 
file as running CF... I have tried it a desk away.. same effect, an 
unresponsive APP server...

All in Windows of course...  Definitely would like to hear more about 
MacroMedia's evaluation of this item...

I plan on running it through more tests just to make sure all is good...

In my world I have mostly tested on Win2k and NT under CF5.. using IE 
6...


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-Original Message-
From: Christian Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:53:18 -0500
Subject: Re: CFserver Timesout when uploading a 13mb file

> I checked on this internally, and it seems that the server writes the
>  
> bytes from the input stream (the file being uploaded) directly to the
>  
> file system, and more specifically to a temp file that then gets
> moved  
> to the specified directory (at least this is the behavior of MX and  
> ColdFusion 5).  From a security standpoint, this is the right
> behavior.  
>   It might technically be slightly faster if the server were to try
> to  
> buffer the file in memory, however 1) this is a huge security risk as
>  
> it would clearly be a denial of service attack opening, and 2)  
> realistically, it probably would not affect the speed considerably if
>  
> at all since the bottleneck is most likely bandwidth rather than the 
> process of writing the bytes to the file system.  In fact, saving the
>  
> file is probably one of the fastest steps in the process.
> 
> As far as why uploads are timing out, I'm really not sure, except
> that  
> I've seen this before, and it is often a client issue, not an issue  
> with the server.  In theory, the client should not time out as long
> as  
> data is moving from the client to the server, however in practice, I 
> have seen several inexplicable ClientDisconnectExceptions in various 
> projects in the past.  A ClientDisconnectException is a Java
> exception  
> that gets thrown when the client disconnects before it has finished  
> writing all of the request to the output stream.  Wherever a client
> has  
> the opportunity to upload a large file (anything over 1MB), you are  
> likely to see these errors.  Possible causes include users  
> intentionally stopping the download (the client has no friendly way
> to  
> convey to the server that the user simply changed his mind), clients 
> timing out due to pitiful dial-up speeds, connections being dropped
> by  
> ISPs or saturated 802.11b networks, browsers crashing, computers  
> crashing, people tripping over power cords, etc.  To be honest, I
> don't  
> know, but I can confirm that it should not be an issue of running out
>  
> of RAM and does not present a security vulnerability in ColdFusion
> MX.
> 
> Christian
> 
> On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 02:53 PM, Joshua Miller wrote:
> 
> > I thought it saved it as a TMP file ??? Does it actually store in
> RAM ?
> >
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> >
> >
> > RAM -- CFFILE I believe uploads into pure ram before it dumps to
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> > ~Todd
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> > At 11:40 AM 1/20

Re: CFserver Timesout when uploading a 13mb file

2003-01-20 Thread Paris Lundis
I haven't heard of any good explanation as to why much above 9 megs 
things break :)

You can effectively crash any CF server with this 

I have tried this across several servers with differing CPU and memory 
and lack thereof.. all attempts above 9Megs pretty much crippled the 
server...


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-Original Message-
From: "Michael E. Carluen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:40:20 -0800
Subject: CFserver Timesout when uploading a 13mb file

> I have a 13mb .doc file being uploaded using a simple CFFILE. The
> server 
> timesout.  After I zipped the file down to a 9mb file, it was OK. 
> Does 
> anyone know what triggers the limitation?
> 
> Thanks
> Michael
> 
> 
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Re: Next N" Navigation and query caching theory question

2003-01-17 Thread Paris Lundis
a good approach to this interesting problem would be as you lead into a
bit, dynamically appending an identifier to all the query names... so
the box of queries you normally run become something like:

QRY_GET_TICKET_12

where 12 is the ID of the person making the request.

To accomodate would seem like a minimal modification to your queries
(adding the unique variable after the query name) plus linking some
logic together to your user identification modules...

No matter what, this approach due to the live ever growing type of
requests and the need to run custom queries down to the user seems to
probably be the best approach.

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Pete Ruckelshaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:02:22 -0500
Subject: Next N" Navigation and query caching theory question

> Hi,
> 
> I am rebuilding my employer's bug tracking application; quite a job,
> but it's been fun (seriously, plus I get to be a hero to hundreds of
> developers who have been using the old, ugly, slow, and completely
> un-user-friendly app that this is replacing).  I'm at the point where
> everything works well, and I'm doing some performance optimization.
> 
> First, the environment.  DB is Oracle 8.0.4 (to be upgraded to 8.1.7
> or even 9 in the near future, as soon as the old app is retired). 
> Our primary bug table has ~90k records and there are a number of
> relationships, so there are joins in most queries.  App server is CF5
> Ent on Win2K Server.
> 
> The primary search interface can be expected to return a relatively
> large number of results, so I have them paginated at 50 results per
> page.  The search interface is really a "Query builder" that builds
> the SQL based on the paramaters the user has selected in the search
> form.  It's a pretty complex operation, searching on a couple dozen
> parameters that have a large number of possible permutations.  I got
> that part tuned and it's very fast, so no problem there.  When the
> query is built, I store it as a session variable so that I can use it
> as the user pages through their results.  However, that still means
> that as each page gets loaded, the query still needs to be run.
> 
> It is my understanding of/experience with query caching that results
> are cached based on the name of the query, and not the actual "guts"
> of the query, so having multiple users each with their own dynamic
> queries but all run under the same query name will mean that only the
> first cached query gets run (at least that's what it looks like in my
> testing) -- is that the case?  If so, what is the best way to "store"
> these results so that going to the next page doesn't mean the query
> needs to get run again?  Should I do something like append the
> CFTOKEN for that user's session to the query name so that it is
> unique?  Or should I store the query output as an array in a session
> variable?
> 
> All I want is for the user to not have to wait for subsequent pages
> after the first page is loaded...
> 
> Thanks for any tips or advice,
> 
> Pete
> 
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Re: CF File error code...

2003-01-16 Thread Paris Lundis
Hmmm... we are running it as a system service... so it should have 
default admin type access...

And this is occurring under 5.0 not MX...


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-Original Message-
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:57:17 -0800
Subject: Re: CF File error code...

> What account is your CFMX services running as?  Chances are it
> doesn't have
> access to the root directory.  Try (temporarily) setting your CFMX
> services
> to run as the "Administrator".  If that works then you know it's a
> permissions issue.
> 
> -Novak
> 
> PS - I don't recommend running your CFMX services under the
> administrator
> account permanently.  Just for testing purposes. You can always
> create a
> special "ColdFusion" account with appropriate access.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:50 PM
> Subject: CF File error code...
> 
> 
> > I was sitting here writing a custom little application using
> CFFILE...
> > a simple copy statement.. nothing fancy...  copying a file from one
> sub
> > directory on the server to another...
> >
> > I get this:
> >
> > Error processing CFFILE Unable to copy file 'c:\utils\0del.exe' to
> > path 'c:\1'. Error: Access is denied. (error 5).
> >
> > What is that error specific too?  I am running IIS and told IIS
> full
> > access to the directory the write is going to... including WRITE
> > access...
> >
> > anyone?
> >
> >
> >
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
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> >
> >
> > 
> 
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CF File error code...

2003-01-16 Thread Paris Lundis
I was sitting here writing a custom little application using CFFILE... 
a simple copy statement.. nothing fancy...  copying a file from one sub 
directory on the server to another...

I get this:

Error processing CFFILE Unable to copy file 'c:\utils\0del.exe' to 
path 'c:\1'. Error: Access is denied. (error 5).

What is that error specific too?  I am running IIS and told IIS full 
access to the directory the write is going to... including WRITE 
access...

anyone?



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Re: OLE DB and Maintain Connections

2003-01-15 Thread Paris Lundis
Ian,

Good info...

Have you checked the registry or are you storing cookie information in a
database?  Run that through an admin cycle

AS far as database goes, ran everything through validation, compact,
maintenance?

Are you using SQL server?  How big are your transaction logs? Could be
the culprit...

I would assume something is trying to clean up workspace.. and thus
something is fairly oversized.. a log, a database, registry... Rake over
those pretty good...


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-Original Message-
From: Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:44:09 -0800
Subject: Re: OLE DB and Maintain Connections

> Yah, we have a dedicated box. We've spent two weeks checking the cf 
> logs, etc. and can't find a thing. The hosting co. keeps e-mailing us
> and copying our client saying it has to be our code.
> 
> Sigh. I don't even care if it IS our code at this point - I just want
> to fix the @)#$(*! thing.
> >
> 
> 
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Re: OLE DB and Maintain Connections

2003-01-15 Thread Paris Lundis
Sounds like shared hosting... or do you have you own dedicated box?

Disabling the database connections as steady state can be good in some
circumstances...  I have some things I run this way and others that I
try always to maintain... 

The OLE isn't the first choice... wondering why they recommended this?

Load might seem to be the same, but the machine with bad/active
neighbors could be doing it... or it might need rebooted.. or resources
could be running lwo on the box (disk/RAM)..

It's really hard to pin point anything other than that...

I know lately having ran the exercise of looking for a hosting solution
for a full CF project for a client, I wasn't impressed with hosting
companies were offering and where their knowledge base was... Then
again, if price is your argument, the adage of getting what you pay for,
well it proves true.

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:26:21 -0800
Subject: OLE DB and Maintain Connections

> Hi all,
> 
> We've got a server that's suddenly become very cranky - running
> slowly, 
> hanging, etc. 3-4 times per day.
> 
> The hosting company told us that we should:
> 
> 1. Uncheck 'maintain database connections' for all ODBC datasources.
> 
> 2. Only use OLE DB for MSSQL datasources.
> 
> Both of these seem counterintuitive to me - OLE DB is buggy as all
> get 
> out, and I've always been told that 'maintain database connections'
> is 
> a performance enhancer, not a drag.
> 
> We're using CF 4.5.1 - traffic levels are about what they've always 
> been, and all session/app vars are appropriately locked.
> 
> Any input?
> 
> Ian
> 
> 
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RE: Using CFMX to generate Static HTML pages

2003-01-15 Thread Paris Lundis
Rick,

It is about speed, scale and deployment from my end and why we run batch
flat files from dynamic pages...

Actually if you get really nifty, you could create flats, that were just
HTML... No CF processing at all on the page request... and deploy the
flats to multiple servers for redundancy/load balancing/etc...

That's why/how I use such in projects.


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-Original Message-
From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:43:21 -0500
Subject: RE: Using CFMX to generate Static HTML pages

> Forgive my ignorance, but what is the purpose of
> building "static" pages from "dynamic" content?  Search engines?
> 
> (Kinda funny...seems like we all work so hard to make dynamic
> pages, now we're talking about how to make them static?)
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Using CFMX to generate Static HTML pages
> 
> 
> > Some people have suggested using CFSAVECONTENT and CFFILE from
> within your
> > page, or using CFHTTP. I'll instead suggest using an external HTTP
> fetch
> > utility, like wget, to spider through your content. The advantage
> of this
> is
> > that you don't have to make any changes to your existing code, and
> you
> don't
> > put extra work on CF as you would with CFHTTP.
> +1 WGET is a great utility...and you get more bang for your buck on a
> unix machine... for instance, let's say you want to mirror your
> company's site... you following the directions I have here
> (http://cephas.net/blog/archives/29.html ) to set it up on
> Windows
> and then you'd do this from the command line:
> 
> wget --mirror http://www.yoursite.com/
> 
> On Windows, any pages that depend on URL variables (ie:
> /news/default.cfm would work fine, but
> /news/newsdetail.cfm?newsid=10)
> doesn't get saved on Windows).. they just get ignored as bad file
> names.
> 
> On Unix/Linux, you actually get the *all* the pages named by the URL
> variable... so you'd get
> 
> /news/default.cfm
> /news/newsdetail.cfm?newsid=10
> /news/newsdetail.cfm?newsid=11
> 
> 
> Pretty cool...
> 
> AJ
> 
> 
> --
> Aaron Johnson
> http://cephas.net/blog/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
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Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise

2003-01-13 Thread Paris Lundis
Sure Oracle has lots of extras...  Undoubtedly... that's also part of 
the problem... it is expensive, expensive to maintain, expensive to run 
machines for, etc.

Very few people can stomach the cost. Only the dotcomer suiciders with 
other folks money and the fortune 500 or less..

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:52:44 -0700
Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise

> Well, I could certainly use Oracle where I am now.  In a serious way.
>  There's no way mySQL even comes close to what our team needs.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Paris Lundis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:23 pm
> Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> 
> > Oh no I agree, more features = more bloat...
> > 
> > But how often do you see a car comparison and see a Porsche 
> > (100k+$) 
> > and a VW (20k) head-on dead heat race to the end line?
> > 
> > It's truly encouraging to see open source and home brewed stuff 
> > pulling 
> > serious load... 
> > 
> > As far as I am concerned Oracle is a big hunk of overpriced (read 
> > too 
> > dam* expensive) crud... sure if you are a bank or some other 
> > oversized 
> > monstrosity it is for you... all 5% of the total businesses if 
> > even 
> > that...
> > 
> > Anyway... MySQL is just marvelous from here... fast, small, easy 
> > to 
> > manage... great cost - even if you are paying / licensing for
> real...
> > 
> > Just so fed up... remember Oracle slobs in a previous life saying 
> > oh 
> > yea... 250k to rent the Oracle for a quad processor workgroup 
> > server 
> > running Slowlaris... 600k to actually buy it... We ended up 
> > sinking a 
> > few hundred K of real money into the crap...  Sure it was good 
> > exposure 
> > but how in the heck can anyone say oh yeah we are going to drop a 
> > half 
> > mil on a program...  
> > 
> > For $600k I could create 3 real companies... Oracle is smoking 
> > crack. 
> > period...  If the downturn takes them under I won't shed a tear.
> > 
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:04:24 -0700
> > Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> > 
> > > Why are people surprised about the performance of mySQL versus
> > > whatever?  Generally speaking, the more features an application
> has,
> > > the slower it will be.  Thus, we can say that the more features a
> > > database has (seeing as how a database platform is actually just
> an
> > > application), the slower it will be.  It's a miracle that Oracle
> is
> > > as fast as it is :)
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Cutter (CF_Talk)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:00 pm
> > > Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> > > 
> > > > Huge article in this weeks E-Week regarding the use of mySQL 
> > for 
> > > > all of 
> > > > Rhode Island's inter/intranet sites
> > > > 
> > > > Cutter
> > > > 
> > > > Paris Lundis wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Well I can't say I am enterprise.. even if I have a few 
> > tables 
> > > > with a
> > > > >couple of million rows of data...
> > > > >
> > > > >Checkout the MySQL site and see their consulting arm... I 
> > > > remember when
> > > > >I first started considering MySQL, their then cleint list and
> > > > >datawarehouse size was quite large.. fairly impressive amount 
> > of 
> > > > data...>
> > > > >A lot of people are bound to bring up the SQL compliance 
> > issue 
> > > > and lack
> > > > >of robust SQL fancy database query stuff... The eWeek article 
> > was 
> > > > right>on I think about performance... having used both
> > > > >
> > > > >Your mileage will vary based on 

Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise

2003-01-13 Thread Paris Lundis
Oh no I agree, more features = more bloat...

But how often do you see a car comparison and see a Porsche (100k+$) 
and a VW (20k) head-on dead heat race to the end line?

It's truly encouraging to see open source and home brewed stuff pulling 
serious load... 

As far as I am concerned Oracle is a big hunk of overpriced (read too 
dam* expensive) crud... sure if you are a bank or some other oversized 
monstrosity it is for you... all 5% of the total businesses if even 
that...

Anyway... MySQL is just marvelous from here... fast, small, easy to 
manage... great cost - even if you are paying / licensing for real...

Just so fed up... remember Oracle slobs in a previous life saying oh 
yea... 250k to rent the Oracle for a quad processor workgroup server 
running Slowlaris... 600k to actually buy it... We ended up sinking a 
few hundred K of real money into the crap...  Sure it was good exposure 
but how in the heck can anyone say oh yeah we are going to drop a half 
mil on a program...  

For $600k I could create 3 real companies... Oracle is smoking crack. 
period...  If the downturn takes them under I won't shed a tear.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:04:24 -0700
Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise

> Why are people surprised about the performance of mySQL versus
> whatever?  Generally speaking, the more features an application has,
> the slower it will be.  Thus, we can say that the more features a
> database has (seeing as how a database platform is actually just an
> application), the slower it will be.  It's a miracle that Oracle is
> as fast as it is :)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cutter (CF_Talk)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:00 pm
> Subject: Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> 
> > Huge article in this weeks E-Week regarding the use of mySQL for 
> > all of 
> > Rhode Island's inter/intranet sites
> > 
> > Cutter
> > 
> > Paris Lundis wrote:
> > 
> > >Well I can't say I am enterprise.. even if I have a few tables 
> > with a
> > >couple of million rows of data...
> > >
> > >Checkout the MySQL site and see their consulting arm... I 
> > remember when
> > >I first started considering MySQL, their then cleint list and
> > >datawarehouse size was quite large.. fairly impressive amount of 
> > data...>
> > >A lot of people are bound to bring up the SQL compliance issue 
> > and lack
> > >of robust SQL fancy database query stuff... The eWeek article was 
> > right>on I think about performance... having used both....
> > >
> > >Your mileage will vary based on the nature of what you are doing
> of
> > >course...
> > >
> > >Funny how the most expensive solution (Oracle) and the least 
> > expensive>(MySQL) performed so closely :)
> > >
> > >Paris Lundis
> > >Founder
> > >Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > >http://www.areaindex.com
> > >http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > >412-292-3135
> > >[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
> present]
> > >[connecting people, places and things]
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: "Scott Mulholland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:53:26 -0500
> > >Subject: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >>I am researching the use of MySQL in use with enterprise level
> > >>applications, looking for feedback both good and bad.
> > >>I have read all the articles on the mySQL site, as well as the 
> > manual>>and the eWeek article comparing it with Oracle.
> > >> 
> > >>Anyone on this list using it currently and have any
> success/horror
> > >>stories or stats?
> > >> 
> > >>TIA,
> > >>Scott
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > 
> 
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Re: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise

2003-01-13 Thread Paris Lundis
Well I can't say I am enterprise.. even if I have a few tables with a
couple of million rows of data...

Checkout the MySQL site and see their consulting arm... I remember when
I first started considering MySQL, their then cleint list and
datawarehouse size was quite large.. fairly impressive amount of data...

A lot of people are bound to bring up the SQL compliance issue and lack
of robust SQL fancy database query stuff... The eWeek article was right
on I think about performance... having used both

Your mileage will vary based on the nature of what you are doing of
course...

Funny how the most expensive solution (Oracle) and the least expensive
(MySQL) performed so closely :)

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-Original Message-
From: "Scott Mulholland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:53:26 -0500
Subject: WOT: MySQL in the Enterprise

> I am researching the use of MySQL in use with enterprise level
> applications, looking for feedback both good and bad.
> I have read all the articles on the mySQL site, as well as the manual
> and the eWeek article comparing it with Oracle.
>  
> Anyone on this list using it currently and have any success/horror
> stories or stats?
>  
> TIA,
> Scott
> 
> 
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Re: Hosting and CFSchedule

2003-01-10 Thread Paris Lundis
you can always schedule a remote request from another box you have to 
request the URL :)

I do that for redundancy sake across boxes locally and remotely...  
also works nicely to centralize all events in one place...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: Thane Sherrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:09:18 -0400
Subject: Hosting and CFSchedule

> Can anyone recommend a good host that allows one to run CFSCHEDULE
> tasks 
> every 15 minutes or so?  I'm on CrystalTech, and while I really
> recommend 
> them, they only allow scheduled tasks every hour.
> 
> T
> 
> 
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Re: Email Quandry

2003-01-08 Thread Paris Lundis
should be no big problem with a set that small... what is happening 
wrong? and what mail server are you sending this stuff to?  type of 
SMTP server...

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-Original Message-
From: "Michael Greenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:05:02 -0500
Subject: Email Quandry

> Hi folks,
> I have an issue with an HTML email newsletter I am trying to send
> out. I
> have a database of approximately 11,000 email addresses I need to
> send this
> newsletter to. Is there a way that I can send this out to about 100
> addresses at a time? I need some sort of mechanism to loop through
> the
> database grab 100 email addresses and send. I'm using CF 5 on Windows
> 2K.
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael
> 
> 
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RE: Free enterprise manager application

2003-01-07 Thread Paris Lundis
There is definitely a need for a good control panel app for Cold Fusion
folks...  would be nice to see support for mail and FTP as well as IIS
or Apache provisioning of site space...

Just some logical expansions of the base concept...

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-Original Message-
From: "Samuel Neff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:41:08 -0500
Subject: RE: Free enterprise manager application

> I think this would really be best with a Flash front end.  If you go
> that route, I'm in.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joshua Miller
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:36 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Free enterprise manager application
> > 
> > 
> > Cool, I'll look into a sourceforge project then ... sounds 
> > like a noble and worthy cause. Even if no one else 
> > contributes just yet, perhaps once it gets going more folks 
> > would be interested.
> > 
> > Joshua Miller
> > Head Programmer / IT Manager
> > Garrison Enterprises Inc.
> > www.garrisonenterprises.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (704) 569-9044 ext. 254
> >  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: cold fusion hosting with full tag support

2003-01-06 Thread Paris Lundis
Yeah I agree about that Jochem... 

They aren't exactly an easy client to please... Concerns are more with
how things look than how things operate... typical stuff... cut costs on
the stuff that matters, pay for the fluff..

I developed the site in CF 5 and planned on having it colocated with its
own server and such.. thus eliminating the full support and security
need by being the only project on the box...

Alarming thing is these folks have something like 13,000 photos that are
on a quarterly death path for deletion and they are increasing allegedly
to be maybe 35k images.. meaning maybe 70k images in a high watermark
time... 

Utter resource consumer... daily batch imports (to date - 12k rows of
data).. accomplished via Excel and a dynamic database connection...
overwrite the file via FTP and run the URL script... 2 minutes later its
munged...  

Needless to say, they are selling goods online and collecting privileged
data... one hosting company just pushed the issue aside and said oh
write secure applications :) yeah and someone can still CFFILE access
the database and undo whatever.. Proximity is the enemy
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-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 20:31:55 +0100
Subject: Re: cold fusion hosting with full tag support

> Paris Lundis wrote:
> > I have a client who has a project I have created that requires full
> tag
> > support... for some reason, they want to be cheap on the hosting
> side...
> > $150-200 a month is too rich for their blood...
> > 
> > looking for a host that has full tag support... supports third
> party tag
> > installation.. and has dynamic datasource permission allowed... 
> > 
> > The project requires just CF5.. MX not required...  
> 
> If they require full tag support and CF 5 the only conclusion one
> could 
> draw is that apparently security is not a requirement. You might want
> to 
> get them to sign soem disclaimer for that up front.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 
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cold fusion hosting with full tag support

2003-01-06 Thread Paris Lundis
I have a client who has a project I have created that requires full tag
support... for some reason, they want to be cheap on the hosting side...
$150-200 a month is too rich for their blood...

looking for a host that has full tag support... supports third party tag
installation.. and has dynamic datasource permission allowed... 

The project requires just CF5.. MX not required...  

Anyone offer anything like such in shared or reduced cost?  Send me email.

-paris


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Re: Is ColdFusion the best answer

2002-12-12 Thread Paris Lundis
CF will handle any load you can come up with... just be sure of the
following:

1. run a real database... MySQL is a great one and has awesome cost...

2. Have enough machines to process your requests...

3. Don't try running many servers on one machine... divide FTP, EMAIL,
DNS and SQL stuff from the web app box...

4. Run a minimum of 3 front end boxes ... 1 for live, one for backup and
one for development...

CF is very robust, rapid and reliable if you take proper business steps
to build out your solution and invest in the infrastructure... lots of
people get real cheap on the hardware side and beat boxes to death...
Puts lots of RAM (as much as possible) in the boxes and amply large and
fast disk...


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-Original Message-
From: "Chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:09:38 -0500
Subject: Is ColdFusion the best answer

> I will be creating a site much like match.com that will require a few
> hundred users logging in accessing the CF server, SQL DB and
> processing multiple requests simultaneously and I was wondering if CF
> Server 5.0 could handle it or would it be best to go down another
> road and develop in another environment. Any comments regarding this
> issue will be much appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: secure email...

2002-11-19 Thread Paris Lundis
So through Doug's ommission:

The CFMAILPARAM that I hardly recognized as existing allows you to do
additional mail things specific to your server and the RFC pertinent to
this sorts of stuff...

Doug had sent one code sample around this weekend that provided the
reply to functionality CF lacks through the very flexible CFMAILPARAM
tag... Doug and I exchanged some emails on this authorization... there
are serveral forms.. the SMTP AUTH he refers to in this thread is a one
password for all users period.. its a server setting on most decent mail
servers...

I haven't the syntax or exacts on it.. but I assume when Doug free a
block of time and pulls the code you will be able to extract it... thats
how I learned about the reply to ability...  CFMAILPARAM doesn't get
enough airtime...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:39:05 -0600
Subject: Re: secure email...

> Yes it is
> 
> =
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =========
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: secure email...
> 
> 
> | Doug, is this SMTP auth a feature through CFMAILPARAM as
> the reply to
> | was we talked about?
> |
> | Paris Lundis
> | Founder
> | Areaindex, L.L.C.
> | http://www.areaindex.com
> | http://www.pubcrawler.com
> | 412-292-3135
> | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
> present]
> | [connecting people, places and things]
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:20:43 -0600
> | Subject: Re: secure email...
> |
> | > As soon as I get this persistent client taken care of I
> will
> | > copy the code from my shopping cart page that notifies
> the
> | > Client of a secure order, and notifies the Customer with
> an
> | > acknowledgement of his/her order.
> | >
> | > It is Pure CF I assure you and when developing the site,
> I
> | > followed the instructions in the Documentation - I have
> been
> | > using exactly this same code since Version 3.  As inept
> as I
> | > am with CF I am surprised at all the doubting thomases
> out
> | > there.  If you have the Server installed on a local
> machine
> | > and selected "install documentation" them open the tag
> | > reference and do a search for CFMAIL and "password"  The
> | > code for CFPOP and CFMAIL works exactly the same.
> Works
> | > just fine with CFMX Pro, (I do not have enterprise)  But
> I
> | > am using this with CF 5.0 server running.  I agree the
> | > documentation is not that clear, but it conforms to most
> of
> | > MM's documentation,
> | >
> | > I run my own mail server, and it has SMTP AUTH
> implemented.
> | > That is it requires not only a user name, but a password
> in
> | > order to send mail out.  I do not have relaying turned
> on
> | > and the mail server is not on the same machine as the
> web
> | > site, in fact I run two mail servers, one uses
> Win2k/Imail,
> | > and the other uses RedHat/Sendmail  and both require
> SMTP
> | > AUTH.  The shopping cart is hosted on a remote network.
> The
> | > public web site is hosted on one of my servers.
> | >
> | > The web site is http://www.strictlyhodaka.com  and my
> | > hosting company is at http://www.clickdoug.com
> | >
> | > This was implemented a long time ago, because both mail
> | > servers are constantly being hammered by attempts to
> relay
> | > or spam, and I have them effectively blocked, by
> filtering
> | > through the ORDB database and spamcop.bl.
> | >
> | > Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I
> have an
> | > idea that we are.
> | >
> | > =
> | > Douglas White
> | > group Manager
> | > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > http://www.samcfug.org
> | > =
> | > - Original Message -
> | > From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM
> | > Subject: 

Re: secure email...

2002-11-19 Thread Paris Lundis
Doug, is this SMTP auth a feature through CFMAILPARAM as the reply to
was we talked about?

Paris Lundis
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-Original Message-
From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:20:43 -0600
Subject: Re: secure email...

> As soon as I get this persistent client taken care of I will
> copy the code from my shopping cart page that notifies the
> Client of a secure order, and notifies the Customer with an
> acknowledgement of his/her order.
> 
> It is Pure CF I assure you and when developing the site, I
> followed the instructions in the Documentation - I have been
> using exactly this same code since Version 3.  As inept as I
> am with CF I am surprised at all the doubting thomases out
> there.  If you have the Server installed on a local machine
> and selected "install documentation" them open the tag
> reference and do a search for CFMAIL and "password"  The
> code for CFPOP and CFMAIL works exactly the same.Works
> just fine with CFMX Pro, (I do not have enterprise)  But I
> am using this with CF 5.0 server running.  I agree the
> documentation is not that clear, but it conforms to most of
> MM's documentation,
> 
> I run my own mail server, and it has SMTP AUTH implemented.
> That is it requires not only a user name, but a password in
> order to send mail out.  I do not have relaying turned on
> and the mail server is not on the same machine as the web
> site, in fact I run two mail servers, one uses Win2k/Imail,
> and the other uses RedHat/Sendmail  and both require SMTP
> AUTH.  The shopping cart is hosted on a remote network.  The
> public web site is hosted on one of my servers.
> 
> The web site is http://www.strictlyhodaka.com  and my
> hosting company is at http://www.clickdoug.com
> 
> This was implemented a long time ago, because both mail
> servers are constantly being hammered by attempts to relay
> or spam, and I have them effectively blocked, by filtering
> through the ORDB database and spamcop.bl.
> 
> Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have an
> idea that we are.
> 
> =
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: secure email...
> 
> 
> | Doug post a sample of code when you find it
> interesting knowledge
> | that isn't well spread/documented and not covered directly
> in any of the
> | books I have sitting here...
> |
> | -paris
> |
> 
> 
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Re: secure email...

2002-11-19 Thread Paris Lundis
Doug post a sample of code when you find it interesting knowledge
that isn't well spread/documented and not covered directly in any of the
books I have sitting here...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:52:01 -0600
Subject: Re: secure email...

> Yep
> 
> In the CFMAIL section of the Docs for version 5.0 it
> describes the tags.  It is similar to CFPOP as well and
> works the same way.
> 
> The FROM address should be the Account name the mail server
> uses, followed by password ="pop passwordhere"
> You use the REPLYTO as the email address of the user
> actually sending the mail to prevent spamming.
> 
> When I get a chance I will dig out the code from a running
> app I have if you cannot find it.
> 
> =
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Trefethen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:08 AM
> Subject: RE: secure email...
> 
> 
> | Hey Doug, you there?
> |
> | --
> | Josh Trefethen
> |
> | :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[
> http://exciteworks.com ]:.
> | ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[
> expertise ]::.
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Josh Trefethen
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:29 PM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: RE: secure email...
> |
> |
> | I was thinking the same thing...
> |
> | There is no reference to a log in and password in your
> example...what am
> | I missing?
> |
> | --
> | Josh Trefethen
> |
> | :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[
> http://exciteworks.com ]:.
> | ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[
> expertise ]::.
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:02 PM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: Re: secure email...
> |
> |
> | >Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and
> Passwords when
> | >sending out email. I am using CF 5.0
> |
> | I don't get it.  Your code sample shows no username or
> password parms
> | anywhere.  I've checked the CF docs and there is no such
> support for
> | what you describe in MX.  I don't have 5.0 docs handy.
> |
> | What am I missing?
> |
> | fyi cfparaming in a message-id is another good idea
> alongside reply-to.
> | Both help keep some anti-spam systems (like Declude) from
> flagging the
> | message fo poor formatting.
> |
> |  | value="<#CreateUUID()#@#attributes.EmailServer#>">
> |
> | ---
> | Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc.
> | http://mysecretbase.com - Retail
> | http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools
> | ---
> |
> |
> | -- Original
> Message --
> | from: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:09:30 -0600
> |
> | >I imagine you can pass just about any variable you want
> to, however, it
> |
> | >might be smart to try in some way to validate that the
> reply to is a
> | >valid email address or to discard the email completely.
> | >
> | >One of the advantages I discovered using the REPLYTO is
> that when the
> | >addressee had a vacation reply or auto-responder set up,
> it will not go
> |
> | >into a mail loop.  Those make sys admins very mad at you.
> | >
> | >I am trying to write a custom tag that will do a SMTP
> | >verify, to try to catch bad email addresses, but it is
> not
> | >yet ready for prime time :-)
> | >
> | >For those that were talking about using Linux,  I have
> been
> | >successfully using Sendmail and with Mailman to support
> the mailing
> | >lists. (Imail on Windows has all this built-in)  but am
> in the
> | >process of switching the Linux mail server to Postfix,
> which
> | >is an all-in-one package that will handle email, list
> | >server, and web mail, and WebMin for remote
> administration.
> | >
> | >Both my Imail and my sendmail servers are high volume, as
> I support
> | >free hosting for User groups, and their mail lists.

Re: You People Are AWESOME

2002-11-19 Thread Paris Lundis
sounds like you have server caching on ... 

its in the CF web admin screens  a simple checkbox.

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-Original Message-
From: "Hawkes, Keith A  CIV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:23:30 -0500
Subject: You People Are AWESOME

> And, after a little sucking up for successfully helping me with my
> last
> question, here's another point of confusion for me.
> 
> Where are Cold Fusion sites retained in memory?  I have a page that
> no
> longer exists that, if I type in the url, will appear and work just
> the way
> I don't want it to.  Another page that I know exists results in the
> Cold
> Fusion error message that the page doesn't exist, yet if I rename the
> folder
> containing the file, the file works just fine.  I looked at the CF
> Administrator settings but can't find anything that looks like my
> fix.  How
> do I clear out these ghosts?
> 
> Thanks again,
> Keith


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Re: ColdFusion practical limits

2002-11-19 Thread Paris Lundis
2800 active sessions with a 20 minute timeout I would guess...

you need to model the transit amount per client.. will it be small data
or lots of streams of big data or lots of individual files like images
to make pretty pages  each has its own issues with scaling 

then what will the peak simulataneous request load be.. how many people
at the same second will need some answer/page?

this in reality is a server, IIS, database and CF issue .. each has
specific limits

IIS would handle it on a fast box with good bus as static traffic...

With CF running... you have databse overhead that will go up as load
does... you have template parsing/rendering... 

You probably are looking at maximum of 1000 users per box I would say...
thats a maxium on something like a P3 sub 1000Mhz with dual
processors... Idea is that at no point will 1000 people request the same
document... if it can run 160 requests per second optimally with a 5-7
second maximum lag... you are covering the maximum users allocated to
the box in a reasonable amount of time... as responsiveness needs driven
to lower almost no wait state, reduce the users to the box essentially...

You will need a load balancing plan undoubteldly.. you will need minimum
of 3 boxes... 2 for this battering and one to catch a crashed one...
ideally 4 servers I guesstimate...


All this depends though highly on your applications.

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: Jesse Houwing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:00:06 +0100
Subject: Re: ColdFusion practical limits

> > If by "simultaneous transactions" you truly mean concurrent hits,
> then 2000
> > is a pretty big number. If you mean "concurrent users" then things
> relax
> > quite a bit, since a user is making requests (page hits) at a
> pretty slow
> > rate.
> 
> Just as an example, we had a NT4 IIS static site running with 2800 
> concurrent users, and it maxed out just after that with a lot of 
> performance tweaks.
> 
> It ran stable and quick at about 1800 users.
> 
> This is a Dual Pentium III 700 Mhz with 768 Mb memory and only static
> content coming from a striped parity raid.
> 
> So if you really want 2000 concurrent users generating quite a lot of
> traffic I'd suspect you'd have to use load balancing.
> 
> Jesse
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: secure email...

2002-11-16 Thread Paris Lundis
Doug,

I see how that sample utilizes the Reply-To as a parameterized value ..
pretty cool was to roll in the reply-to...  

Are you aware of any list or decision on what values can be used (ie:
does CF have open architecture to handle and pass any value like that
which might be SMTP standards compliant or did CF folks just allow a few
like this)...

IMplemented that reply-to workaround on our mail to friend feature..
very cool.. thanks a bunch!



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-Original Message-
From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:14:57 -0600
Subject: Re: secure email...

>  Subject="#storename# Order">
> Dear #form.Name#,
> 
> Thank you for your order. The total charge to your
> #form.USER7# was
> #TRIM(NumberFormat(form.USER5,"$999,999,999.99"))#.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> #storename# Customer Service Staff
> 
> 
> also:
> 
> 
>
>   Sending Your Greeting
>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  "&"#TimeFormat(Now(),"HH:mm:ss")#">
> 
>  
> TO="#form.to_email#"
> >From = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> Subject = "Web Page from #form.from_name#">
> 
> Hello #form.to_name#!
> 
> #form.from_name# sent you this page from the
> [yourdomainname] web site
> 
> 
> Comments from #form.from_name#:
> #form.comments# on this date #now#
> 
>  Message Sent
>  
> Your message to #Form.to_name# has been sent
> 
>  
>DBTYPE="ODBC">
> insert into tellafriend_log (sending_date, from_email,
> from_name, to_email,
> to_name, message_comments)
> values ('#NOW#', '#form.from_email#', '#form.from_name#',
> '#form.to_email#',
> '#form.to_name#', '#form.comments#')
> 
>   
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> =
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: secure email...
> 
> 
> | What the syntax for this?  I have a 4.5 box here and
> 5.0... I know of
> | 4.5 it doesn't exist
> |
> | I looked up docs on MX at Macromedia's site and didn't see
> any such
> | syntax in their command reference :)
> |
> | -paris
> |
> | Paris Lundis
> | Founder
> | Areaindex, L.L.C.
> | http://www.areaindex.com
> | http://www.pubcrawler.com
> | 412-292-3135
> | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
> present]
> | [connecting people, places and things]
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:48:50 -0600
> | Subject: Re: secure email...
> |
> | > Excuse me!   But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and
> | > Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0
> | >
> | > I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled,
> and
> | > crank out emails from several CF applications on varied
> | > Virtual domains on my servers.  I don't have to create
> | > "allow relay for" entries at all, as I don't consider
> that
> | > very secure.  SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such
> as
> | > KLEZ infected emails as well.
> | >
> | > =
> | > Douglas White
> | > group Manager
> | > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > http://www.samcfug.org
> | > =
> | > |
> | > | I was wondering how people were dealing with email
> from
> | > Cold Fusion
> | > | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL
> | > doesn't support
> | > | any login and password login type stuff...
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> 
> 
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Re: secure email...

2002-11-16 Thread Paris Lundis
What the syntax for this?  I have a 4.5 box here and 5.0... I know of 
4.5 it doesn't exist

I looked up docs on MX at Macromedia's site and didn't see any such 
syntax in their command reference :)

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:48:50 -0600
Subject: Re: secure email...

> Excuse me!   But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and
> Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0
> 
> I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled, and
> crank out emails from several CF applications on varied
> Virtual domains on my servers.  I don't have to create
> "allow relay for" entries at all, as I don't consider that
> very secure.  SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such as
> KLEZ infected emails as well.
> 
> =
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =
> |
> | I was wondering how people were dealing with email from
> Cold Fusion
> | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL
> doesn't support
> | any login and password login type stuff...
> |
> 
> 
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RE: secure email...

2002-11-16 Thread Paris Lundis
Oh we were using Mdaemon and it was nice and sweet... I could pass it 
emails without even having a fully qualified email address in there...

We have users that daily with the friend feature type incorrect emails 
intentionally thinking it will prevent them from being emailed anything 
later... In turn, our new server says with those, oh not syntax valid 
email address, forget you :) so their email never reaches their 
friend...

IMail is on my list to install and test for a while... just 
client/company cost...  Otherwise we would be there... Moving away from 
Mdaemon because my email volume and clients is ever increasing that 
especially with mailing list broadcasts and such, a good SMTP spooler 
needs to replace Mdaemon's not so speedy one... outside of that issue 
Mdaemon has server us well for years.


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-Original Message-
From: "Tony Weeg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0500
Subject: RE: secure email...

> paris.
> 
> what mail server are you using?
> we use ipswitch's imail server and that allows us
> to specify "allowed" ip addresses, we simply added the
> ip address of all our webservers into that list and
> now have no issuesF**KING SPAMMERS!! arghhh what an
> annoyancebut anyway, it works.
> 
> tw
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:04 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: secure email...
> 
> 
> so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled 
> relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in record
> time 
> and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going
> to 
> address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies...
> 
> I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion 
> applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't
> support 
> any login and password login type stuff...
> 
> We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly 
> troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our 
> servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every definition
> it 
> fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly closed email 
> server...
> 
> Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :)
> 
> Paris Lundis
> Founder
> Areaindex, L.L.C.
> http://www.areaindex.com
> http://www.pubcrawler.com
> 412-292-3135
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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secure email...

2002-11-16 Thread Paris Lundis
so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled 
relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in record time 
and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going to 
address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies...

I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion 
applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support 
any login and password login type stuff...

We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly 
troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our 
servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every definition it 
fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly closed email 
server...

Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :)

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=?iso-8859-1?Q?Re: OT? =A0Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not??=

2002-11-11 Thread Paris Lundis
so then I would say, what does 99$ cover? one editor, one web server.. 
one company, etc.

I assume since its a psuedo version control system that all those 
permissions and such are centrally controlled on your server installed 
centralized repository for this software...

who knows... interesting in some regards...

-p

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-Original Message-
From: "samcfug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:03:42 -0600
Subject: Re: OT?  Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or 
not?

> Initially it will be $99.00
> 
> They call it stand-alone
> 
> They also say you can impose restrictions.
> 
> if there are no server side components, then how does one do
> that?  Do you have to buy it, customize it for each client,
> and then find some way to redistribute it to your clients,
> and if so, at what price?
> 
> =
> Douglas White
> group Manager
> mailto:doug@;samcfug.org
> http://www.samcfug.org
> =========
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:45 AM
> Subject: RE: OT?  Macromedia Contribute, is it Content
> Management or not?
> 
> 
> | The product is pretty niche oriented from my end...
> |
> | seems ideal that they say it only allows folks to edit non
> code
> | portions.. hurrah if they manage to pull that portion
> off...
> |
> | seems to integrate nicely into dreamweaver... but hey,
> would non techy
> | people really find that friendly..nice for the know bunch
> though..
> |
> | drag and drop is nifty...
> |
> | I would summarize it as a web-enabled version control
> system that has
> | nifty parsing to limit people to non technical portions...
> |
> | it really makes it seem brain dead... fine for samll
> edits, but hell I
> | use existing Active X invoked editors to do the same and
> version
> | control... the only thing it one ups me on is that limit
> them to non
> | technical portions... We do that too, but we do it by only
> having a
> | single content zone for them to edit per page and the
> editor only
> | displays that when editing.. so yeah, nice to see edit
> region within
> | context of entire document...
> |
> | What in the world is the pricing for this product?
> |
> | -paris
> |
> | Paris Lundis
> | Founder
> | Areaindex, L.L.C.
> | http://www.areaindex.com
> | http://www.pubcrawler.com
> | 412-292-3135
> | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
> present]
> | [connecting people, places and things]
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: "Wayne Putterill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:12:13 -
> | Subject: RE: OT?  Macromedia Contribute, is it Content
> Management or
> | not?
> |
> | > It does seem to be a very odd product, I can't really
> see what the
> | > market is for it.
> | >
> | > I can't see it being used on large sites (probably
> already CMS), and
> | > I
> | > think we all know how easy it is to put together a
> dynamic site with
> | > an
> | > admin area.
> | >
> | > Also what's the benefit of paying per seat for this and
> then being
> | > tied
> | > to a particular computer, when a dynamic or CMS site can
> be accessed
> | > via
> | > browser from anywhere by however many people you want?
> | >
> | > Puzzled
> | >
> | >
> | > > -Original Message-
> | > > From: Frank Mamone [mailto:fmamone@;videotron.ca]
> | > > Sent: 11 November 2002 16:49
> | > > To: CF-Talk
> | > > Subject: Re: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content
> | > > Management or not?
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > I was the presentation at Devcon. It's content
> management for
> | > > static page websites or the static portions of a site.
> It
> | > > uses DWMX templates where you can restrict editable
> regions
> | > > of the pages and create new pages based on those
> templates.
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > - Original Message -
> | > > From: "Pete Ruckelshaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:07 AM
> | > > Subject: OT? Macromedia Contribute, 

CF TIME SHEET

2002-11-11 Thread Paris Lundis
Does anyone have/recommend an employee timesheet type application that 
might be out there already?

-paris

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Re: (Admin) New spam code

2002-11-11 Thread Paris Lundis
interested in the code  to do this and if I pass :)

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:00:59 -0500
Subject: (Admin) New spam code

> Just a heads up:
> In an attempt to crack down on spam even more, I put some new code
> into effect
> yesterday which checks if your running a properly set up mail server.
> Most
> spammers don't have their mail server set up right or try to hide it.
> The code
> has been rather effective with 3 noted exceptions. These are
> legitimate people
> who's mail servers are not set up properly.
> If anyone gets a message about their posts being rejected due to
> this, you can
> email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If this becomes more of a
> hassle than
> not, I'll remove it.
> 
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> ICQ: 2995061
> 
> 
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Re: Contribute and Studio Observation

2002-11-11 Thread Paris Lundis
well if folks are using flat sites, the need for the dreamweaver/gui 
markup crowd is pretty minimal...

unless, the volume of work is so great.. this package can help 
alleviate that...

and as long as they have a good team communications and someone on 
board from marketing/management who knows about consistency well the 
HTML markup god isn't really then needed...

Then again, if people would invest in a dynamic CF driven site, they 
would already be doing most of this stuff...  and this would be old 
news..


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hastings)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:46:45 +0700
Subject: Re: Contribute and Studio Observation

> > wouldn't buy Contribute for the folks in your office currently
> using
> either
> > CF Studio or Dreamweaver -- you'd buy Contribute for the folks in
> your
> > office currently sending email to the folks using CF Studio or
> Dreamweaver
> > to ask them to make changes.
> 
> and how long before the contribute users "think" they no longer need
> the
> studio/dw folks & defenestrate them?
> 
> 
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RE: RE: RE: OT? RE: OTA0Macromedia Contribute, is it Conten t Management or not?

2002-11-11 Thread Paris Lundis
oops didnt read the press release...

just watched the FLASH advertorial :)

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-Original Message-
From: John Beynon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:33:23 -
Subject: RE: RE: RE: OT? RE: OTA0Macromedia Contribute, is it Conten t 
Management or not?

> $99 per seat. It's in the press release ;)
> 
> jb.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:PLundis@;areaindex.com] 
> Sent: 11 November 2002 17:45
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE: OT? =A0Macromedia Contribute, is it
> Content
> Management or not??=
> 
> The product is pretty niche oriented from my end...
> 
> seems ideal that they say it only allows folks to edit non code 
> portions.. hurrah if they manage to pull that portion off...
> 
> seems to integrate nicely into dreamweaver... but hey, would non
> techy 
> people really find that friendly..nice for the know bunch though..
> 
> drag and drop is nifty...
> 
> I would summarize it as a web-enabled version control system that has
> nifty parsing to limit people to non technical portions...
> 
> it really makes it seem brain dead... fine for samll edits, but hell
> I 
> use existing Active X invoked editors to do the same and version 
> control... the only thing it one ups me on is that limit them to non 
> technical portions... We do that too, but we do it by only having a 
> single content zone for them to edit per page and the editor only 
> displays that when editing.. so yeah, nice to see edit region within 
> context of entire document...
> 
> What in the world is the pricing for this product?
> 
> -paris
> 
> Paris Lundis
> Founder
> Areaindex, L.L.C.
> http://www.areaindex.com
> http://www.pubcrawler.com
> 412-292-3135
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> [connecting people, places and things]
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Wayne Putterill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:12:13 -
> Subject: RE: OT?  Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or 
> not?
> 
> > It does seem to be a very odd product, I can't really see what the
> > market is for it. 
> > 
> > I can't see it being used on large sites (probably already CMS),
> and
> > I
> > think we all know how easy it is to put together a dynamic site
> with
> > an
> > admin area. 
> > 
> > Also what's the benefit of paying per seat for this and then being
> > tied
> > to a particular computer, when a dynamic or CMS site can be
> accessed
> > via
> > browser from anywhere by however many people you want?
> > 
> > Puzzled
> >  
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Frank Mamone [mailto:fmamone@;videotron.ca] 
> > > Sent: 11 November 2002 16:49
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content 
> > > Management or not?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I was the presentation at Devcon. It's content management for 
> > > static page websites or the static portions of a site. It 
> > > uses DWMX templates where you can restrict editable regions 
> > > of the pages and create new pages based on those templates.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Pete Ruckelshaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:07 AM
> > > Subject: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or
> > not?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Topic: Macromedia Contribute 
> > > > http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/contribute/
> > > >
> > > > Poking around the site, it sure as heck looks like some sort of
> > > > content
> > > management system, but MACR seems to go to great pains to NOT 
> > > us the "Content Management" moniker.  The Conspiracy Theorist 
> > > in me (a small voice who is constantly being repressed by the 
> > > man, man) think that this is solely so I can't get an upgrade 
> > > from Spectra.
> > > >
> > > > So, does anyone here know anything about it?  Is it really
> > content
> > > management, or is it something that MACR is trying to define 
> > > themselves?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Pete
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?RE: OT? =A0Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not??=

2002-11-11 Thread Paris Lundis
The product is pretty niche oriented from my end...

seems ideal that they say it only allows folks to edit non code 
portions.. hurrah if they manage to pull that portion off...

seems to integrate nicely into dreamweaver... but hey, would non techy 
people really find that friendly..nice for the know bunch though..

drag and drop is nifty...

I would summarize it as a web-enabled version control system that has 
nifty parsing to limit people to non technical portions...

it really makes it seem brain dead... fine for samll edits, but hell I 
use existing Active X invoked editors to do the same and version 
control... the only thing it one ups me on is that limit them to non 
technical portions... We do that too, but we do it by only having a 
single content zone for them to edit per page and the editor only 
displays that when editing.. so yeah, nice to see edit region within 
context of entire document...

What in the world is the pricing for this product?

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Wayne Putterill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:12:13 -
Subject: RE: OT?  Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or 
not?

> It does seem to be a very odd product, I can't really see what the
> market is for it. 
> 
> I can't see it being used on large sites (probably already CMS), and
> I
> think we all know how easy it is to put together a dynamic site with
> an
> admin area. 
> 
> Also what's the benefit of paying per seat for this and then being
> tied
> to a particular computer, when a dynamic or CMS site can be accessed
> via
> browser from anywhere by however many people you want?
> 
> Puzzled
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Frank Mamone [mailto:fmamone@;videotron.ca] 
> > Sent: 11 November 2002 16:49
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content 
> > Management or not?
> > 
> > 
> > I was the presentation at Devcon. It's content management for 
> > static page websites or the static portions of a site. It 
> > uses DWMX templates where you can restrict editable regions 
> > of the pages and create new pages based on those templates.
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Pete Ruckelshaus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:07 AM
> > Subject: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or
> not?
> > 
> > 
> > > Topic: Macromedia Contribute 
> > > http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/contribute/
> > >
> > > Poking around the site, it sure as heck looks like some sort of 
> > > content
> > management system, but MACR seems to go to great pains to NOT 
> > us the "Content Management" moniker.  The Conspiracy Theorist 
> > in me (a small voice who is constantly being repressed by the 
> > man, man) think that this is solely so I can't get an upgrade 
> > from Spectra.
> > >
> > > So, does anyone here know anything about it?  Is it really
> content
> > management, or is it something that MACR is trying to define 
> > themselves?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> 
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RE: Error Processing CFFILE

2002-11-06 Thread Paris Lundis
yeah Dave.. you and I a while back shared a thread on this

I can tell you definitely in the Windows world, that outside of doing 
just the file requests, if you do a directory or maintenace function on 
a large directory with all those entries, your server is going to be 
mighty slow... and might even run the risk of crashing if you have load 
already...

filing in the  - mm  format is a good start... go all the way down 
to third level with dd if volume.. and if mega volume... down to hh :)

it might seem like overkill, but its a good habit if you even think any 
site might grow to a thousand or more uploaded files... Your disk will 
thank you and me.

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:24:02 -0500
Subject: RE: Error Processing CFFILE

> > The only thing is the folder where the file are going 
> > is getting extremely large, (over 8 gigs) and I'm 
> > wondering if that is maybe the problem ?
> 
> It would be a good idea to use subdirectories for this in any case, I
> think,
> even if it's not the cause of your current problem. I worked on a CF
> project
> once which had tens of thousands of uploaded files in a single
> directory,
> and performance seemed to improve significantly when the files were
> uploaded
> into different subdirectories. If I recall correctly, the scheme used
> was to
> create directories for year, then within those, create subdirectories
> for
> month, then for each day within the month subdirectory, before saving
> the
> uploaded file. It was a pretty simple code change.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
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> fax: (202) 797-5444
> 
> 
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Re: Browser Statistics

2002-11-06 Thread Paris Lundis
anyone have any stats on what percent of web visitors as a bulk use a 
MAC?

-p

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-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 00:02:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Browser Statistics

> Chris Montgomery wrote:
> 
> > Actually, I don't believe that's true, it is still Internet
> Explorer.
> >
> > "Interestingly, despite some tantalizing hints that AOL might
> replace
> > Internet Explorer with a Netscape-based browser, the new version
> ships
> > with IE as the default--a disappointment for those who were
> awaiting a
> > renewed browser war."
> >
> > See http://www.cnet.com/internet/0-3762-8-20520916-2.html for the
> full
> > story.
> 
> IIRC AOL for Mac OS X is Gecko based, other editions not.
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 
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Re: SLOW! What is hanging up Cold Fusion?

2002-11-05 Thread Paris Lundis
I always suspect the access databases run repair and compact on 
them...  make sure your ODBC drivers are current.

outside of that...  how much memory, disk  and CPU are on the box?


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-Original Message-
From: "Paul Sinclair " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue,  5 Nov 2002 10:47:14 -0500
Subject: SLOW! What is hanging up Cold Fusion?

> My Cold Fusion server is for some reason absolutely grinding to a
> halt. I'm running IIS on Win2000 Server. IIS is running fine but any
> cfm template just takes forever to load. I'm running 2 sites on MS
> Access based db and 1 site on a SQL based db. Doesn't seem to be any
> correlation between which site is being accessed - they are all slow.
> 
> I've looked at app log, server log, etc. to get any clues but am
> mystified. If anybody could suggest some things to look at, I would
> sure appreciate it. I've searched the archives over and over and
> haven't found a solution yet.
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul Sinclair
> 
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Re: OT: Uploading more than one file at a time?

2002-11-01 Thread Paris Lundis
IE for the Mac is the biggest piece of junk on the planet...

Lately, I have been tweaking a site to work on both PC and MAC in IE 
and Netscape...

IE on MAC acts different than on the PC and different than 
Netscape  The behaviors are generally different enough on this 
tight pixel design implementation that we have had to pad everything 
everywhere...

YUCK! to the MAC.. and to IE on the MAC...

anyone have any numbers on total browser using a MAC anyways... figure 
that is 5% maximum viewership...



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-Original Message-
From: Scott Weikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 12:12:15 -0700
Subject: Re: OT: Uploading more than one file at a time?

> IE for the PC tends to allow multiple  fields in a
> form, 
> and pass them on correctly. IE for the Mac, however, ceases passing
> on form 
> fields when it hits a "file" one, I've found, and therefore any
> subsequent 
> file input fields get dropped. Not 100% sure on Netscape.
> 
> At 09:39 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >Does anyone know of a component or anything that will allow a user
> to upload
> >more than one file at a time within the browser?
> 
> 
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RE: Yahoo moving to PHP

2002-10-29 Thread Paris Lundis
they like their BSD... it's that simple.

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-Original Message-
From: "Dave Notik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:35:35 -0800
Subject: RE: Yahoo moving to PHP

> Maybe they're making reference to the fact that all tags start with
> "CF"...  which I know turns off a lot of engineers who like to keep
> code
> generic-looking.
> 
> Either way, their gripes are meaningless... CF's unique tag-based
> syntax
> makes for the fastest web development language I know of.
> 
> --D
> 
> _ 
> David Notik 
> Digital202, LLC 
> Imagination gone digital. 
> WWW: www.digital202.com 
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> Cell: 206.351.3948 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Everett, Al [mailto:AEverett@;askallied.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:21 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Yahoo moving to PHP
> 
> CF has ugly syntax? Are they on crack?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Densmore [mailto:ben_densmore@;esupport.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:13 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT:Yahoo moving to PHP
> > 
> > 
> > Check it out, in their presentation for why they chose PHP, they
> make
> > reference as to why they didn't go with CF or ASP
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Ben
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: Shorter urls?

2002-10-29 Thread Paris Lundis
I agree Matt.

The way the example site does this is through a random string creater 
witha database... its based logic in their default document.. I suspect 
index.php...

they even use the dreaded ? mark which is the giveaway as to how part 
of it is functioning


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-Original Message-
From: Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:02:25 -0800
Subject: Re: Shorter urls?

> You're right - I just tested it.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/29/02 10:52 AM, "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I don't believe encrypting the URL as this UDF does is the way to
> go. If
> > I read it correctly, the order of the URL variables in the query
> string
> > will affect the encrypted value. The code I posted in response to
> the
> > original question does not suffer from this problem.
> > 
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > 888-408-0900 x901
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:ian@;portentinteractive.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:45 PM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: Shorter urls?
> >> 
> >> Thanks - I found the UDF I was looking for:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=212&enable=1
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 10/29/02 10:39 AM, "Benjamin S. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> If you put a ".cfm" on the end, you can handle the request in the
> >>> Application.cfm page. If you are using IIS, you have to tell it
> not
> > to
> >>> check to make sure the page exists. This is a setting specific to
> > the
> >>> application mapping.
> >>> 
> >>> Or, you can use an ISAPI extension (IIS) or mod_rewrite (Apache)
> to
> >>> rewrite the URL before it even gets to ColdFusion. There's a free
> > one
> >>> for IIS called ISAPI_Rewrite (http://www.isapirewrite.com).
> >>> 
> >>> Benjamin S. Rogers
> >>> http://www.c4.net/
> >>> v.508.240.0051
> >>> f.508.240.0057
> >>> 
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Ian Lurie [mailto:ian@;portentinteractive.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:27 PM
> >>> To: CF-Talk
> >>> Subject: Shorter urls?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> 
> >>> I've searched the devcenter, google, etc. but can't seem to find
> any
> >>> discussion of how to generate shorter URL strings. I want to
> take:
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.site.com?action=blah&brand=1&name=blahblah&;
> >>> 
> >>> And convert it to
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.site.com/asdfwer234123
> >>> 
> >>> I've seen it done but just can't remember where. Can someone send
> me
> > a
> >>> url?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>> 
> >>> Ian
> >> 
> >> --
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> >> Effective web sites through Conversation Marketing 
> >> http://www.portentinteractive.com
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> 
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RE: Shorter urls?

2002-10-29 Thread Paris Lundis
Kev,

I have some logic that grabs errors in that way and it also analyzes 
stuff to see if people are trying to post to pages :)

Under IIS you can configure your 404 errors to point toward anything...

That's an easy way...

-What are you trying to achieve and I can/will share more...


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-Original Message-
From: "Miller, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:56:40 -0800
Subject: RE: Shorter urls?

> Once upon a time, someone on this list described a process where they
> created a CFML page from IIS's 404 error page (404.html becomes
> 404.cfm) that pre-processes all incoming page requests.  
> 
> Basically, the IIS document root is completely empty and everything
> gets preprocessed by the 404 error file.  Files get included from a
> CF document root to generate the actual user output.
> 
> This seems like a pretty darn ingenious way to do a bunch of cool
> stuff!
> 
> If the person who told me about this is out there, I apologize for
> forgetting your name!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:ian@;portentinteractive.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:27 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Shorter urls?
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've searched the devcenter, google, etc. but can't seem to find
> any
> > discussion of how to generate shorter URL strings. I want to take:
> >
> > http://www.site.com?action=blah&brand=1&name=blahblah&;
> >
> > And convert it to
> >
> > http://www.site.com/asdfwer234123
> >
> > I've seen it done but just can't remember where. Can someone send
> > me a url?
> >
> 
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RE: Shorter urls?

2002-10-29 Thread Paris Lundis
simple:

1. person submits link via form to make shorter...

2. you insert data into database

3. when inserting one field called maybe "unique" is a random generated 
alpha numberic string... randomize and compare to existing data to make 
sure no dupe exists already...

4. write the long URL and the unique string...

5. pass the shorter back to the user.. but first:

 A. create an index handler that shows form if no string found 
otherwise looks up table entries to find match ... pauses, displays 
notice and then pushes them out...

that's how I plan on implementing mine when I find a few hours :)

-paris


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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:42:58 -0600
Subject: RE: Shorter urls?

> http://www.makeashorterlink.com is where you've probably seen it
> done. I'm
> not sure how they do it either though.
> 
> -Kevin Graeme
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ian Lurie [mailto:ian@;portentinteractive.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:27 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Shorter urls?
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've searched the devcenter, google, etc. but can't seem to find
> any
> > discussion of how to generate shorter URL strings. I want to take:
> >
> > http://www.site.com?action=blah&brand=1&name=blahblah&;
> >
> > And convert it to
> >
> > http://www.site.com/asdfwer234123
> >
> > I've seen it done but just can't remember where. Can someone send
> > me a url?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Ian
> > --
> > Portent Interactive
> > Effective web sites through Conversation Marketing 
> > http://www.portentinteractive.com
> >
> > 
> 
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CF and scientific notation/math formulas

2002-10-28 Thread Paris Lundis
has anyone worked within the science/math communities and developed or 
working with any content management system for the web (ideally in CF) 
that addressed the major problem of scientific notation/math formulas...

One common storage/markup mechanism used elsewhere is LaTex... Anyone 
worked to accomodate these more complex types of data..???

Interested in hearing from anyone who has


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RE: Using CFEXECUTE from a Web Browser???

2002-10-24 Thread Paris Lundis
ahh, connect a printer to your server.. which isn't a smart idea...

alternatively... hmmm CF from the server runs the custom batch to get 
report or whatever (custom barcode).. then uses the CFHTTP to post to a 
CF template on your local box where the printer is...

you could use other means to accomodate... but generally, thats what I 
would do...

or, you could just connect the webserver to the printer by mapping it 
as a connected printer resource - especially if the printer support IP 
or you have a print server attached to it... so you would print to like 
LPT2 instead which is really a mapped resource that isn't physically 
connected to the server but your workstation... 

If you have the IP ability and can peer through firewall in and out, 
you could really make this work with your servers sitting across the 
planet.

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Dave Cordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:26:35 -0500
Subject: RE: Using CFEXECUTE from a Web Browser???

> Jochem,
> Do you have an idea how I would use this solution from the server. I
> mean,
> it works great on localhost, but I can't run this from the server
> because
> the printer is installed locally.
> 
> Dave Cordes
> Senior ColdFusion Developer
> 636-939-1081 (H)
> 636-578-4235 (M)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:jochemd@;oli.tudelft.nl]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:19 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Using CFEXECUTE from a Web Browser???
> 
> 
> Dave Cordes wrote:
> 
> > Windows XP
> > ColdFusion MX
> 
> OK, so your process will always run for as long as the timeout
> specified.
> 
> > What did you mean by the "/c" parameter? Should I add that command
> in
> > order to close the command?
> 
> Yes. But I usually make it the first option I specify:
> ARGUMENTS="/c copy C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFDEV\barcode\zebra.txt LPT"
>TIMEOUT="5">
>
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Using CFEXECUTE from a Web Browser???

2002-10-24 Thread Paris Lundis
It all depends on the printer you are using.. if its a thermal barcode 
type, well you likely will need to but a printserver appliance to smack 
an IP to it...

Now if laser is the case, HP tends to be mostly IP based on the 
business models or optional upgrade...  Administration and all can be 
done via IP / Web browser...

The firewall matter is easily remedied by opening the Microsoft service 
port used for such things... MS should have a list of PORT stuff 
somewhere on their website... numbers of firewall vendors make such 
available for easy configuration by new buyer.


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-Original Message-
From: "Dave Cordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:04:09 -0500
Subject: RE: Using CFEXECUTE from a Web Browser???

> Interesting idea adding a printer via IP address. Obviously we would
> have to
> open the firewall in order to make that happen.
> 
> Dave Cordes
> Senior ColdFusion Developer
> 636-939-1081 (H)
> 636-578-4235 (M)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:PLundis@;areaindex.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:38 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Using CFEXECUTE from a Web Browser???
> 
> 
> ahh, connect a printer to your server.. which isn't a smart idea...
> 
> alternatively... hmmm CF from the server runs the custom batch to get
> report or whatever (custom barcode).. then uses the CFHTTP to post to
> a
> CF template on your local box where the printer is...
> 
> you could use other means to accomodate... but generally, thats what
> I
> would do...
> 
> or, you could just connect the webserver to the printer by mapping it
> as a connected printer resource - especially if the printer support
> IP
> or you have a print server attached to it... so you would print to
> like
> LPT2 instead which is really a mapped resource that isn't physically
> connected to the server but your workstation...
> 
> If you have the IP ability and can peer through firewall in and out,
> you could really make this work with your servers sitting across the
> planet.
> 
> -paris
> 
> Paris Lundis
> Founder
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Dave Cordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:26:35 -0500
> Subject: RE: Using CFEXECUTE from a Web Browser???
> 
> > Jochem,
> > Do you have an idea how I would use this solution from the server.
> I
> > mean,
> > it works great on localhost, but I can't run this from the server
> > because
> > the printer is installed locally.
> >
> > Dave Cordes
> > Senior ColdFusion Developer
> > 636-939-1081 (H)
> > 636-578-4235 (M)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:jochemd@;oli.tudelft.nl]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:19 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Using CFEXECUTE from a Web Browser???
> >
> >
> > Dave Cordes wrote:
> >
> > > Windows XP
> > > ColdFusion MX
> >
> > OK, so your process will always run for as long as the timeout
> > specified.
> >
> > > What did you mean by the "/c" parameter? Should I add that
> command
> > in
> > > order to close the command?
> >
> > Yes. But I usually make it the first option I specify:
> >  >ARGUMENTS="/c copy C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\CFDEV\barcode\zebra.txt
> LPT"
> >TIMEOUT="5">
> >
> >
> > Jochem
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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RE: CFIndex for Verity quit working - Needs Attention by Macromedia!

2002-10-21 Thread Paris Lundis
Dtsearch is allegedly a very nice package.. THey post some very awe 
inspiring numbers and have ran ads for years in the classified sections 
of many tech magazines

It comes with a nice, not free price tag.. 

If you have a unix server or proficiency with such checkout HTDIG.. its 
free...

http://www.htdig.org/

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Ken Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:13:39 -0400
Subject: RE: CFIndex for Verity quit working - Needs Attention by 
Macromedia!

> I know nothing of the product but do recall a CF developer on another
> list raving about dtSearch as a replacement for the version of Verity
> packaged with CF. Might be worth looking at anyway:
> 
> http://www.dtsearch.com/
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Trey Rouse [mailto:trouse@;rice.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:51 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFIndex for Verity quit working - Needs Attention by
> Macromedia!
> 
> 
> Is it possible you are trying to index a recordset over 250,000
> records?
> 
> The following is paraphrased from a Verity publication detailing the
> Macromedia OEM agreement:
> 
> Here is a list of key counts limits by product per Verity:
> 
> ColdFusion Professional:  125,000 Documents Max.
> ColdFusion Enterprise:250,000 Documents Max.
> ColdFusion Advanced:  175,000 Documents Max.
> Coldfusion Developer Edition: 10,000 Documents Max.
> 
> Features _NOT_ included with Macromedia's OEM agreement:
> 
> 1. Brokered Search
> 2. Does not have access to any of Verity's automatic classification
> tools. 3. Does not support Relational Taxonomies. 4. Does not provide
> integration with a company's chosen security context. 5. Does not
> provide Verity's full document viewing capabilities. 6. Does not
> provide
> Verity's recommendation engine. 7. Does not provide a parametric
> search
> interface. 8. Does not provide hit count display for categories or
> parametric attribs. 9. Does not provide Federated search
> capabilities.
> 10. Does not provide Verity Gateways to content management solutions.
> 11. Does not provide Verity Gateways to enterprise e-mail
> applications.
> 
> 
> 
> As you can see according to Verity, there is no limitation of the
> Verity
> query language built into the Macromedia OEM agreement.  Since this
> document is provided by Verity when they are trying to sell K2 to
> orgs
> that already have CFMX, I'm very confident that if sections of the
> query
> language had been limited or smurfed as part of the oem agreement,
> then
> Verity would have clearly stated this in big bold letters ;).
> 
> I think you can safely read into this that the fact specific
> functions
> are not working in the CFMX verity implementation (like delete and
> soundex), is most likely due to a mistake in packaging on
> Macromedia's
> part.  Someone from MM please address this thread!
> 
> However, if there is indeed language level limitations in this OEM
> product, Macromedia has a responsibility to its developers to make a
> clear statement regarding exactly what is and isn't in this release!
> 
> A few of you have asked for alternatives to the technology due to
> your
> aggravation with this implementation.  Here are my thoughts on the
> matter:
> 
> 1. For a large loose text/document search project I would recommend
> purchasing Verity's K2 server. I would urge you NOT to judge the
> Verity
> product based upon the oem experience delivered by the Verity97
> agreement with Allaire, and the K2 agreement with macromedia. 
> Verity's
> K2 is an extremely powerful product, and in my opinion the best in
> the
> field, but it is priced as such.
> 
> 2. Consider using some of the database free text search utilities.
> Microsoft and Oracle both offer free text search utilities that run
> on
> their DB engine.  MS specifically has a SOUNDEX implementation in
> their
> T-SQL implementation.  This solution will place a considerably
> heavier
> burden on you as the developer, but is perhaps a more cost effective
> solution.  You will likely never match verity's implementation of
> thesaurus matching, and other really cool things their engine does,
> but
> you can build a half way decent data centric search.
> 
> 3. Look into competing technologies.  Inktome is also a good search
> engine tool that you can license for your App.  I haven't used 

Re: cfmail tag and looping output

2002-10-21 Thread Paris Lundis
We ship out about 13-20k in one big swoop in a similar method as you 
described...

The actual program never takes much time... It's the CFMAIL spooling 
that takes a long time...

I can't verify that CFMAIL drops stuff... I know though that you will 
end up with erroneous entries in your UNDELIVERABLE mail folder under 
CFUSION...  To fix that we run the resend undeliverable tag found in 
the Developer's Exchange... it works fine for us...

AS far as other related problems...

Time is probably the largest issue... Cause CF runs that query.. and 
then starts parsing emails to the CF mail directory... then the CF 
server at maximum once per minute tries sending a batch of them to your 
SMTP server, where they then sit and wait for the mail server to 
process them to the outside world...

There is Jochem's tag which allows you to write the files directly to 
your mailservers pickup directory...  That is an interesting thing to 
look at...

There is also a third party mail replacement that someone on the list 
sells and is highly recommended... 


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-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:11:09 -0700
Subject: cfmail tag and looping output

> Hello List - One of my client has about 8,000 emails that have signed
> up 
> for sales letters and newsletters on his site.
> 
> I have been testing a simply query that pulls from 3 tables - creates
> an 
> output that loops and executes the cfmail tag each time - using a ID 
> that is primary so no duplicates are being sent.. It surprisingly 
> doesn't take that long ( although I haven't tested on the full lot)
> BUT 
> i have heard
> 1) Cfmail tag not being reliable
> 2) their must be a more efficient way to code this.
> 
> So I am looking to this list to find if there is any truth to cfmail 
> dropping results OR if there is other tags ( please hint) that I
> should 
> really be looking into.
> 
> Client wants me to manage this through some simple scripts - and
> would 
> like to send html formated email. We are leaning away from purchasing
> 3rd party solutions and installing special server software is not
> possible.
> 
> thanks!
> jason
> 
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RE: Macromedia! PLEASE fix CFHTTP!!!

2002-10-18 Thread Paris Lundis
sick but funny...


-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:20:19 -0400
Subject: RE: Macromedia! PLEASE fix CFHTTP!!!

> > On 10/18/02, Craig Dudley penned:
> >>Unfortunatley you can't buy 5.0 anymore, well maybe on e-bay.
> 
> > Sure you can.
> 
> >
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/faq/general
> /#p80
> > 0
> 
> > I can't get an answer as to whether there is an upgrade path from
> > 4.5. Probably not since it's only 799 for pro.
> 
> I remember hearing/reading that there was an upgrade path... You
> might check
> the cf-talk archives for "upgrade"
> 
> 
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> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> 
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Re: Advise Needed

2002-10-16 Thread Paris Lundis

That project is going to hurt.

Really the best way is figure out how to phase it... tell them about 
now and the migration as is... 

then handle the CF piece seperately so your payday doesn't get mixed 
up... 

Be sure to charge them fair rate for both portions just in case the 
bail.. neve defer profits for later work...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:24:21 -0700
Subject: Advise Needed

> We were approached by a company to refresh their web site.  It
> currently
> is a mess of PHP, CGI, and perl.  Basically it does not work.  It
> pulls
> a 500 error everytime something is added to the basket.
> 
> They want us to quote moving the site since they cannot get anyone to
> fix their current web site.  I am really afraid of moving the site to
> one of our servers since we don’t have one that is PHP/Perl.
> 
> I am afraid we will spend more time fixing the old site then it is
> worth
> and once we got it running they would bail out on the CF refresh we
> quoted them.
> 
> I would rather leave the site at the current provider, fix the site
> so
> it at least works, then start developing the CF refresh.
> 
> Then comes my fear that once we get the site running they will never
> want to do the CF refresh we quoted them.
> 
> I suppose we will have to invest in a lawyer to draw up a contract
> that
> says we will fix the current site and they WILL contract use to do
> the
> CF refresh.
> 
> Any other ideas on how to approach this situation?  I don’t want to
> get
> burned.
> 
> 
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Re: cfmail and smtp load balancing

2002-10-16 Thread Paris Lundis

what I do with our mail issue in CF is the following:

1. All mail gets plugged to a network attached storage appliance
2. All SMTP servers access this shared space and utilize their own 
locking system so they don't step on each other

CFADVANCEDMAIL is worth checking out... it has a direct to file system 
specification compliance writing mechanism so it can dump directly to 
your spool...

If your spool area is shared disk, then having multiple SMTP suckers 
that all smell and work the same would work well.. and if one goes away 
it won't matter...

Now if you want redundancy for IMAP/POP3 pickup thats a whole different 
discussion :)

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From: "Turetsky, Seth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:28:27 +0100
Subject: cfmail and smtp load balancing

> What would be the easiest way to get cfmail to use multiple smtp
> servers, either if one goes down or for load balancing?  Is this even
> possible, maybe using an MX record with multiple smtp servers or
> something?
> I've read about a custom mail tag that can supposedly do it,
> ActivMail, is this the only way to go?  Anyone have any experience
> with it?
> 
> thanks,
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Re: DevX slowwww

2002-10-16 Thread Paris Lundis

like we say, it makes a great advertisment for promoting Cold Fusion... 
not.

what ever happened to just putting some more power behind it while the 
team builds???

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-Original Message-
From: "Valerie L. Criswell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:35:51 -0400
Subject: Re: DevX slo

> cool, thanks ... I'll be patient.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vernon Viehe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 2:09 PM
> Subject: RE: DevX slo
> 
> 
> > We know it has performance problems regularly, and is among the
> parts of
> the site being re-engineered, not sure of the exact ETA, but it's
> coming.
> >
> > I'm asking if there's anything unusual going on in the last week.
> I'll
> report back here if I find out anything useful, but if they're
> unaware of
> anything, at least they now have these comments as feedback about
> possible
> recent performance issues.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -Vern
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Paris Lundis

I would wager to say calculating this is little in the direction of 
accurate.. The only true gauges there are as follows:

1. Number of servers licenses sold for new units.. upgrades don't 
count...

2. Number of user group members

3. Number of subscribers to relevant user/developer publications 
(magazines)..

As far as counting the total pages... I could say there are a lot of 
bad programmers generally who don't reuse templates... so for every 
piece of data in the database they have a flat file...

Given that using a ? in the URL got you dumped in the engines until 
Google really, there are suspec to be enough dynamic sites that aren't 
counted in full...

Additionally, some people like to map their stuff to be other things... 
so CF might be processing .html extensions...

Needless to say its a pretty flawed mechanism to try to count as we 
are...

And of course, the hosted environment... 1 box 400 clients...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Phoeun Pha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:16:54 -0500
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

> THat still isn't HARD FACTS.
> 
> It could mean 4 ASP servers with 89.2 million asp pages in their
> apps, and
> 20 million CF servers with X CFM pages in their apps combined.  I
> know the
> numbers are exxagerated a bit, but u get the drift
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:06 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> 
> 
> 
> Trey, I just did a very simple search on Google looked for ".cfm" got
> 25.5
> million results, ".asp" 89.2 million, ".php" 106 million, ".jsp" 13.6
> million.
> 
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
> Webapper
> http://www.webapper.com
> Downey CA Office
> 562.243.6255
> AIM - webappermb
> 
> "Webapper - Making the NET work"
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:48 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> 
> 
> I would challenge your 'Deployed' numbers.
> 
> Your 'Facts' don't hold much water with me.
> 
> More than 10,000 organizations have purchased ColdFusion
> More than 125,000 ColdFusion servers deployed
> 
> The average organization purchases and deploys 12.5 licenses of CF?
> Where are the numbers of deployment of CFMX? Or how about 5.0+?
> 
> Are the dozen licenses we own but are collecting dust being counted
> in
> your numbers?  And how many others like us?
> 
> I would be very surprised if 90% of your customer base purchases and
> deploys more than 3 servers, and of those, I bet at most 50% are
> production.
> 
> If you expect us to believe this PR dribble, I think some more
> supporting information is needed.  At least a basis from where these
> numbers are coming from?
> 
> Trey Rouse
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 6:25 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> >
> > >The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame
> this
> > on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
> >
> > Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
> around
> > 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're really
> only
> > about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall installed
> CF
> > base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list of
> existing
> CF
> > sites we use for PR/marketing:
> > http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/
> >
> > Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server
> world,
> the
> > list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following
> are
> a
> > few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me:
> >
> > http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/
> > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19&languageid=1
> > http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre
> > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content,
> some
> > just plain HTML)
> > http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com
> >
> > We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX
> and
> are
> > in the upgrad

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Re: CFMX for j2ee: Is it a solution? =A0Was: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion??=

2002-10-16 Thread Paris Lundis

Oh well... J2EE is anything but rapid.. so you guys will be losing the 
rapid :)

It makes me wonder with these whole enterprise type licensure schemas 
exactly how off track people are going to get and what major shifts in 
the employee base will need to occur...

These costs of change seemingly have to be factored and thus offset the 
cost of buying the CF licesnses...

Its very similiar in my opinion to the people earlier on who said ASP 
is free, why would I pay for an app server... The answer was delivered 
in there bill, where the time was upto 60% bloat due to added 
complexity, debugging and time investment via ASP...

With the Java solutions, I think the argument is relatively similar and 
has the taste of complexity and different programming mindset all over 
it...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Trey Rouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:23:27 -0500
Subject: CFMX for j2ee: Is it a solution?  Was: How Good is the Job 
Market for ColdFusion?

> CFMX for j2ee does not support our vendor solution (oracle).  As per
> my
> original message, many .edu's and corporations have purchased bulk
> licensure from oracle to support their databases that includes
> oracles
> j2ee server.  I have raised this issue throughout the entire CFMX for
> j2ee development cycle without a response.
> 
> However, this goes far beyond CF's support of j2ee.  For example, if
> we
> maintain some orgs developing in CFMX for j2ee, but other orgs do
> native
> j2ee programming, we would have to purchase cfmx for j2ee licensure
> for
> every j2ee server in our enterprise in order to share code out of the
> cfmx development teams.  And that holds to the caveat that CFMX for
> j2ee
> would even run on all major label j2ee servers in the marketplace,
> which, as I've said it does not.
> 
> As such, it is not a viable j2ee alternative in our enterprise, and
> from
> speaking with other enterprise and .edu folks, we are not alone in
> this
> conclusion.
> 
> Believe me, I had hoped all along from the first incarnation I heard
> about Neo/cfmx j2ee solutions that it would maintain CFML as a RAD
> solution for our enterprise, but the delivered product is far shy of
> that expectation.
> 
> Trey Rouse
> Rice University
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:59 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> > 
> > Trey, apologies if I missing something here, but CFMX has J2EE
> > capabilities.
> > I know that sounds obvious but are they not considered to be
> sufficient
> > for
> > your infrastructure?
> > 
> > Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
> > Webapper
> > http://www.webapper.com
> > Downey CA Office
> > 562.243.6255
> > AIM - webappermb
> > 
> > "Webapper - Making the NET work"
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:38 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> > 
> > 
> > I mostly agree with your position that CFML is a more rapid
> development
> > tool than j2ee.  However, I think when you take a longer view and
> > consider performance, security factors, availability of work force,
> and
> > most importantly: range of vendor support, the ground rapidly falls
> out
> > from under CFML solutions.
> > 
> > But, more directly to the point you bring up, and why things happen
> the
> > way they do... In my experience, platform decisions and systems
> support
> > for these platforms are made at a tier above the development side
> of a
> > large organization.  Often times it is summarily decided far up the
> > corporate ladder.  I know in our scenario, the systems folks that
> urged
> > us to move up to site licensing want us to recoup costs by not
> running
> > tandem technologies where not critically necessary.
> > 
> > You're argument still stands true, but in reality developer
> departments
> > rarely carry enough decision making clout in most corporate or
> > educational bureaucracies to drive these decisions.  Unfortunately,
> we
> > all have a hard time making this argument, and when we do, we
> mostly
> > sound like we are just defending our turf.
> > 
> > In my experienc

RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-16 Thread Paris Lundis

What's the IBM push of CF you make reference of??

I assume that deal with Websphere running with CF?


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-Original Message-
From: "Mike Brunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:35:44 -0700
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

> Kris, Jeff said this better than I but I can't see how putting
> everything
> into Microsoft and .NET gives you "the ability to roll out our apps
> in
> multiple formats".  CF is far more cross platform than .NET overall.
> 
> What intrigues me about many of the threads in recent weeks and
> months
> intimate that Macromedia's acquisition of Allaire has disadvantaged
> ColdFusion somehow (I know you are not saying that I'm just jumping
> on your
> thrust Kris). I worked for Allaire (and enjoyed it immensely) I was
> laid of
> by Macromedia so could have an axe to grind.  Yet my feeling  back to
> the main point of this thread> is this is a great time for CF and all
> of us
> who have CF expertise. And Macromedia are listening to us!
> 
> Two things excite me in particular, the growing integration with
> Flash and
> the amount of marketing muscle being applied to CF by IBM. As always
> IMHO.
> 
> Mike Brunt - CTO
> Webapper Services LLC
> http://www.webapper.com
> Downey CA Office
> 562.243.6255
> 
> "Making the NET Work"
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> 
> 
> I can just throw ColdFusion out the window we have a lot of
> applications
> that need to be converted so we will be using it for quite a while...
> 
> What I envision is using CF for quick or small projects that have to
> much overhead... A great example is a project I am finishing up
> now...
> We need to write out a bunch of text files from records sets from
> oracle... A pain in the a** to do in ASP or .net but with CF it's a
> breeze.
> 
> I would like to keep it around for things like that and any flash
> data
> work we do but outside of that I don't see it being a major part of
> any
> of our enterprise applications.
> 
> As I said before personally I will ocntinue to use CF for my business
> and ecommerce sites. I love the product but I just think that the
> .NET
> stuff has the edge at this time... For Microsoft orgainzations that
> is...
> 
> One decision my company just made is to give up on UNIX and oracle
> and
> switch enitrelly to micrososft world SQL server all NT servers and
> all
> NET development... The prinicipal is great
> 
> 1 company
> 1 development platform
> 1 programming team that all knows the same stuff
> 
> But having been at other 100% microsoft organizations I have seen
> what happens when you put all of your eggs in 1 basket.
> 
> I think getting rid of Oracle on AIX & Linux is a big mistake for
> us...
> Especially in favor of  NT based SQL server... Especially after we've
> already bought oracle and set it up and have it running without
> issue...
> But that's a separate issue.
> 
> But the big decision maker was the ability to roll out our apps in
> multiple formats...
> 
> If CF allowed up that then it would be a no brainer to stay with CF..
> 
> KP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Whatcott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:48 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> 
> 
> Sorry to that you see it that way.  Perhaps we can change your mind.
> 
> The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can
> scale
> across the full spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to
> the
> biggest mission-critical enterprise application.  And you also get
> true
> cross-platform deployment and industry-leading rich client technology
> that is light years ahead of anything else out there.
> 
> We think the ColdFusion MX + J2EE application servers (like JRun!)
> combo
> delivers all the technology that an enterprise needs, and offers
> critical flexibility than you don't get going with a single vendor.
> 
> Having said all that, we think .NET is important infrastructure
> technology and we will continue to offer products that integrate with
> and take advantage of it.  Hence the COM and web services support in
> CFMX, the .NET s

RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-15 Thread Paris Lundis

actually totally not bitter.. 

I use to sit around and laugh at the insanity...

Herman Miller pay day baby... those little funny cars... the denial... 

Oh the jet set wannabes :) she likes, ahh you money ...

I was always the black cloud of death reminder...

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-Original Message-
From: Mosh Teitelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:10:29 -0400
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

> LOL
> 
> - Mr. Know It All but Knows Nothing Web Dork
> 
> --
> Mosh Teitelbaum
> evoch, LLC
> Tel: (301) 625-9191
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> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:54 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> >
> >
> > At least you're not bitter.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:37 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> >
> >
> > It's an economy and burnout thing...
> >
> > I mean how many people need software built? How many people are
> > throwing hard cash at a software based business concept?
> >
> > Not many.
> >
> > Couple that with the reduced budgets everyone is facing across the
> > board and bingo! Hiring isn't what is in, firing is...
> >
> > The whole view that the web was where you had to be, is a has been
> > idea... Now its trivilized greatly (after the cafe mocha brewer
> turned
> > web dude turned 20something CEO phase)... The margins are razor
> thin in
> > general and clients expect tons of functionality at little or no
> cost..
> >
> > Companies with payrolls are feeling the lashings, even if they are
> > selling box software... Retainers, once the staple of entitlement
> have
> > evaporated and lots of people owe for development across the
> board...
> >
> > Times are tough and leaner... Better and different...
> >
> > At least now I can laugh that Mr. Know It All but Knows Nothing Web
> > Dorks and the idiot business school wanks with their bullshit $800
> > chairs and stupid gimmicks are back at their mostly trivial jobs
> for
> > mostly someone else...
> >
> >
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Trey Rouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:45:38 -0500
> > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> >
> > > I have to agree with Casey on this one.  There are practically no
> CF
> > > postings in the Texas market.  Dallas has by far the most of any
> > > other
> > > regional market.
> > >
> > > I'm no longer a developer and have moved up past the architect
> tear,
> > > and
> > > honestly, I here 5x as many stories of people ditching CF than
> > > ramping
> > > up.  The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would
> blame
> > > this
> > > on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
> > >
> > > We honestly are seriously considering dumping the product and
> > > retraining
> > > our CF team for native j2ee.  MM's failure to support Oracles
> j2ee
> > > server is killing them in the education and corporate
> marketplaces.
> > > Too
> > > many large schools and corporations have purchased 'site'
> licensure
> > > of
> > > oracle products that comes bundled with oracle's j2ee server.
> > > Fiscally
> > > we can not justify purchasing another party j2ee server just to
> > > continue
> > > using the CF toolset. We are moving forward with what we already
> own.
> > > Talking with industry piers, we are by no means the only large
> shop
> > > doing this.
> > >
> > > My advice, if you want to maintain your marketability, you better
> > > ramp
> > > up on other application server languages.
>

RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-15 Thread Paris Lundis

those are the chairs...

Glad to see you bought your own Jeff...

I was reading a friends account of another defunct shop close out and 
the sadness of witnessing the dorks trying to cram there Aeron chair 
into their Saabs...

Something redeeming about watching the waste be laid down.

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-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 16:06:07 -0400
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

>   Just for the record, my Herman Miller Aeron B Chair was worth every
> cent.
> 
>   ( I'm putting it on eBay in January to pay the mortgage )
> 
> At 03:36 PM 10/15/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> >At least now I can laugh that Mr. Know It All but Knows Nothing Web
> >Dorks and the idiot business school wanks with their bullshit $800
> >chairs and stupid gimmicks are back at their mostly trivial jobs for
> >mostly someone else...
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> DotComIt, Putting you on the web
> AIM: Reboog711  | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
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RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

2002-10-15 Thread Paris Lundis

It's an economy and burnout thing...

I mean how many people need software built? How many people are 
throwing hard cash at a software based business concept?

Not many.

Couple that with the reduced budgets everyone is facing across the 
board and bingo! Hiring isn't what is in, firing is...

The whole view that the web was where you had to be, is a has been 
idea... Now its trivilized greatly (after the cafe mocha brewer turned 
web dude turned 20something CEO phase)... The margins are razor thin in 
general and clients expect tons of functionality at little or no cost..

Companies with payrolls are feeling the lashings, even if they are 
selling box software... Retainers, once the staple of entitlement have 
evaporated and lots of people owe for development across the board...

Times are tough and leaner... Better and different...

At least now I can laugh that Mr. Know It All but Knows Nothing Web 
Dorks and the idiot business school wanks with their bullshit $800 
chairs and stupid gimmicks are back at their mostly trivial jobs for 
mostly someone else...


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-Original Message-
From: "Trey Rouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 12:45:38 -0500
Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?

> I have to agree with Casey on this one.  There are practically no CF
> postings in the Texas market.  Dallas has by far the most of any
> other
> regional market.
> 
> I'm no longer a developer and have moved up past the architect tear,
> and
> honestly, I here 5x as many stories of people ditching CF than
> ramping
> up.  The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame
> this
> on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
> 
> We honestly are seriously considering dumping the product and
> retraining
> our CF team for native j2ee.  MM's failure to support Oracles j2ee
> server is killing them in the education and corporate marketplaces.
> Too
> many large schools and corporations have purchased 'site' licensure
> of
> oracle products that comes bundled with oracle's j2ee server. 
> Fiscally
> we can not justify purchasing another party j2ee server just to
> continue
> using the CF toolset. We are moving forward with what we already own.
> Talking with industry piers, we are by no means the only large shop
> doing this.
> 
> My advice, if you want to maintain your marketability, you better
> ramp
> up on other application server languages.
> 
> Trey Rouse
> Rice University
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Casey C Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:54 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
> > 
> > Well, heres my 2 cents.  When the economy was booming I noticed
> about
> a 1
> > to 5 ratio (roughly 100 CF 500 ASP) for coldfusion to ASP jobs on
> > monster.com for the Dallas/Ft. Worth Texas Area, now that the
> economy
> is
> > down I see a 1 to 12 ratio (roughly 10 CF 120 ASP) for coldfusion
> to
> ASP
> > jobs for the Dallas/Ft. Worth Texas Area.  I know this is a very
> small
> > sample, but if I was looking to stay in this area I would say CF
> jobs
> are
> > becoming more scarce.
> > 
> > Best of luck.
> > Casey Cook
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Angel
> > Stewart"  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > @silkcotton.ccc:
> > om>  Subject: RE: How Good
> is
> the
> > Job Market for ColdFusion?
> > 
> > 10/12/02
> > 09:10 AM
> > Please
> > respond to
> > cf-talk
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You should be asking how good is the job market for Web Development
> in
> > the US in general,
> > rather than focusing on CF, and that might give you a better
> answer.
> > 
> > -Gel
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: siva girumala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > How good is the job market for ColdFusion expertise?
> > It seems the number of openings in ColdFusion are
> > becoming less and less.
> > 
> > Is it dying? I am sorry to even mention this. But i
> > would like to know the future of ColdFusion.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

2002-10-14 Thread Paris Lundis

I have Postcast running here on a Win2k box... It's unreliable in my 
opinon... it often hangs... and I can't say it dumps bad emails like it 
is supposed to... 

But then again, we do regular emailings... so I need to turn down the 
limits and see if it does better...

PostCast is worth looking at, since it is free...


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-Original Message-
From: Chris Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:46:48 -0500
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> Howdy Kodjo,
> 
> Monday, October 14, 2002, 9:28:35 AM, Kodjo Ackah wrote:
> 
> KA> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients - 
> and if
> KA> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> 
> I've heard that PostCast Server is good, although I haven't had any
> experience with it:
> http://www.postcastserver.com/
> 
> Chris Montgomerymonty @ airtightweb.com 
> 
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Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

2002-10-14 Thread Paris Lundis

Yeah we handle all the hosting needs for our clients.. we have an older 
version of Mdaemon running.. Frankly, the cost of most servers is a bit 
daunting at first...  Large one time expenses.. 

So we are looking figuratively to distribute the client activity... 
Considering loads of alternative solutions including *nix based email 
services...   

Really, we have volume issues I would say, enough business related 
broadcast emails.. business to business use.. which can be some heavy 
lifting...

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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:58:50 -0400
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> It's being used by my hosting provider -- which is where my email is
> hosted.
> I haven't had any significant problems with it... I think we had a
> hiccup or
> 2 just after we installed it, but we cleared it all up and it's been
> working
> fine for several months. ArgoSoft is a one-man company and so he says
> in the
> FAQ on his site that he doesn't provide phone support, but I'm of the
> impression that his email support is fairly decent. Granted, this
> means that
> in many cases you might have to send and receive support email from
> another
> address. ;P But if worse comes to worse, a Yahoo mail account should
> work as
> a backup to get the server working. And there's a free version of
> ArgoSoft,
> so you can upgrade to the terribly inexpensive plus ( $50 ) or Pro (
> $88 )
> versions later if needed.
> 
> How is your client hosted? Is it a shared server? If so I'd be
> surprised if
> the hosting company would install a separate mail server for them,
> though I
> could be surprised. ;P
> 
> > Do you actually use this product Isaac? How has it fared...???
> 
> > We are in the market for another mail server/upgrade...
> 
> 
> > Paris Lundis
> > Founder
> > Areaindex, L.L.C.
> > http://www.areaindex.com
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com
> > 412-292-3135
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:13:17 -0400
> > Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
> 
> >> I don't know what the security is like specifically but last I
> knew
> >> you
> >> could get a free beta for the Argosoft mail server...
> >>
> >> http://www.argosoft.com/applications/mailserver/
> >>
> >> hth
> >>
> >> S. Isaac Dealey
> >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> >>
> >> www.turnkey.to
> >> 954-776-0046
> >>
> >> > outlook,pine,mutt
> >> > check on google.com
> >> > write your own in CF
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Kodjo Ackah wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -
> >> and if
> >> >> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> >> >> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kodjo Ackah
> >> >> Principal Consultant
> >> >> Concrete Media Ltd
> >> >> 32 Great Sutton Street
> >> >> Clerkenwell
> >> >> London, EC1V 0DX
> >> >>
> >> >> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> >> >> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> >> >> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
> >> >>
> >> >> Office Location:
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
> >> 1
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> >> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> >> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> >> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
> >> >>
> >> >> deleting that many records will take a long time.
> >> >>
> >> >> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a
> >> time. if
> >> >> that still times out, then
> >> >> cut it to 50K
> >> >>
> >> &g

Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

2002-10-14 Thread Paris Lundis

Do you actually use this product Isaac? How has it fared...???

We are in the market for another mail server/upgrade... 


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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:13:17 -0400
Subject: Re: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> I don't know what the security is like specifically but last I knew
> you
> could get a free beta for the Argosoft mail server...
> 
> http://www.argosoft.com/applications/mailserver/
> 
> hth
> 
> S. Isaac Dealey
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> 
> www.turnkey.to
> 954-776-0046
> 
> > outlook,pine,mutt
> > check on google.com
> > write your own in CF
> 
> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Kodjo Ackah wrote:
> 
> >> Hi,
> >> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients - 
> and if
> >> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> >> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
> >>
> >> Kodjo Ackah
> >> Principal Consultant
> >> Concrete Media Ltd
> >> 32 Great Sutton Street
> >> Clerkenwell
> >> London, EC1V 0DX
> >>
> >> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> >> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> >> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
> >>
> >> Office Location:
> >>
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
> 1
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
> >>
> >> deleting that many records will take a long time.
> >>
> >> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a
> time. if
> >> that still times out, then
> >> cut it to 50K
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> This address is filtered through the open relay database at
> >> http://www.ordb.org
> >> and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
> >> http://www.dwhite.ws
> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
> >> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble
> >>
> >>
> >> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of
> records
> >> (say 2.7 million, not the
> >> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I
> get
> >> Timeout errors.  Is there
> >> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query
> so
> >> that the database won't time
> >> out?  Thanks!
> >> |
> >> | Gregory Harris
> >> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> > 
> 
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RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

2002-10-14 Thread Paris Lundis

Just use the Outlook Express... many people do...

Eudora is a suitable package at a great price


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-Original Message-
From: "Kodjo Ackah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:47:21 +0100
Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury

> My client has outlook 2000 but cannot afford Exchange.
> This is new to me sorry for the mistake!
> I just built him a website got him 40 emails with his ISP.
> Now we need to manage these accounts.
> So what do you suggest?
> I am quite prepared to explain further if it is necessary.
> 
> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX
>  
> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
>  
> Office Location:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
> 1
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Carlisle, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 14 October 2002 15:34
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
> 
> Are you asking for servers or clients? 
> (you asked for server in the subject, client in the body) 
> :-)
> 
> I'm pretty partial to Eudora (the adware version).
> http://www.eudora.com
> 
> Can't speak to the security, though.
> 
> ETC
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kodjo Ackah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: free mail servers please - like Pegasus and Mercury
> 
> 
> Hi,
> Is it possible to tell me where I can find free email clients -  and
> if
> possible - with better security than Pegasus and Mercury.
> At the moment Pegasus and Mercury are the only ones I know.
> 
> Kodjo Ackah
> Principal Consultant
> Concrete Media Ltd
> 32 Great Sutton Street
> Clerkenwell
> London, EC1V 0DX
>  
> Tel:+44 (0)20 7251 8090
> Fax: +44 (0)20 7251 8780
> Mobile: +44 (0)7748 79 1038
>  
> Office Location:
> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=531852&Y=182204&A=Y&Z=
> 1
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 12 October 2002 01:53
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Large Database Delete trouble
> 
> deleting that many records will take a long time.
> 
> Try setting up a little loop and delete say, 100 thousand at a time.
> if
> that still times out, then
> cut it to 50K
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This address is filtered through the open relay database at
> http://www.ordb.org
> and is virus scanned by ANTIVIR
> http://www.dwhite.ws
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gregory Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:27 PM
> Subject: OT: Large Database Delete trouble
> 
> 
> | Hey there, currently I'm trying to delete a large amount of records
> (say 2.7 million, not the
> entire table though) on SQL Server, however whenever I do it, I get
> Timeout errors.  Is there
> anything that can be done to enhance performance of a DELETE Query so
> that the database won't time
> out?  Thanks!
> |
> | Gregory Harris
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Wiki

2002-10-10 Thread Paris Lundis

what's a Wiki?

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-Original Message-
From: project_boo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:38:49 -0400
Subject: Wiki

> Are there any Wiki's written in cold fusion? Every one that I found
> was 
> written in Asp
> I thought I saw a reference to one in a passing e-mail. recently.
> One of the abusers of the societies project suggested that it would
> work 
> well to encourage people to share data.
> Any comments
> 
> michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: CF 5 Hack

2002-10-07 Thread Paris Lundis

search the archives listed on the footer of this message...

you will find what you need probably by searching for RESET or 
password...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Mark A. Kruger - CFG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:17:12 -0500
Subject: RE: CF 5 Hack

> I am following those procedures.  I think I've been quite open about
> it.
> 
> -mk
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:00 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF 5 Hack
> 
> 
> As a member of the CF community I suggest you follow proper ethical
> procedures.
> 
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:
> 
> > Folks,
> >
> > We have a new client with a self-hosted server who has asked us to
> make
> some
> > emergency changes. He lost his previous developer and does not know
> where
> to
> > find him (.. and no - the site is not littlebopeep.com).  He does
> not know
> > the cf administrator password and it's important that we get in to
> the
> > administrator. Short of re-installing, does anyone remember the
> hack to
> > reset the password?
> >
> > -mk
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: need info...cont

2002-10-03 Thread Paris Lundis

AS a general solution to dynamic faxing check out protofax... it works 
nicely and I use it when faxes are required within a project... It 
requires a fax modem... it will support multiple modems as you grow...

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Steve Dworman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:57:54 -0400
Subject: need info...cont

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> Software,
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> words a solution that is working now.
>  
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>  
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Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000

2002-10-03 Thread Paris Lundis

Micro$oft has to stop this s*it...

It's getting silly as can be...  In the last week we have had to 
install about 4-6 OS issued patches it seems and now this...

These big long winded follow 652 step type ones are at the top of the 
annoyance list..

It's almost like they are daring us all to flee their stranglehold...

Just imagine if this were your car and every day almost you had to take 
it to the dealer to be serviced...  What would you do with that car? 

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-Original Message-
From: Zac Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:42:25 +0200
Subject: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000

> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-056
> 
> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/s
> ecurity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp>
> 
> have fun, yet another crappy m$ patch from with no installer and 2
> pages 
>   of instructions
> 
> and it's rated critical for all internet instances
> 
> z
> 
> 
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Re: Registry 129 meg ... CF 5.0

2002-10-02 Thread Paris Lundis

Client variables are a sure fire culprit of exploding registries... I 
have one that has a 500+ meg registry...  Thus we are moving to 
cookies ... yeah yeah.. lesser evil or greater...

Is it possible that you had client storage in registry before and 
somehow that changed and orphaned the data?

-paris

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-Original Message-
From: "Bartee Lamar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:53:07 -0400
Subject: Registry 129 meg ... CF 5.0

> Is there any thing in CF that would cause a VERY large registry 
>  
> It does not look like CF is set to use Registry for client variables.
>  
> Any Knowledge based articles,  I cannot find any
>  
> Where in Registry does CF store stuff...
>  
> Bartee Lamar
> www.enterpriseenergy.com <http://www.enterpriseenergy.com/> 
> MSN  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  
>  
> 
> 
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RE: Nth Record Selection Set

2002-09-02 Thread Paris Lundis

Here's the solution I use under SQL 2000... change the 10 to any incremental
value you wish to do the math against (i.e.. 10 is the mod - division
factor)


select
*
from
BREWERS
where
brewerid % 10=0



#brewerid#


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-Original Message-
From: Jim Gurfein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 8:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Nth Record Selection Set


These functions don't appear in MSSQL7.0... the mod function is represented
by '%' in the select as a function... so far, I'm not a real lot closer to
answer this problem. Anyone know of a way to create some sort of on the fly
Identity number  (rowcount in cf) that would all this usage?

At 05:03 PM 9/1/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>Jesse Houwing wrote:
> >
> > In MySQL, PostgreSQL and such:
> >
> > SELECT * FROM table LIMIT startrow, numberofrows
> >
> > so the 15000th item en the 15 following it would be:
> >
> > SELECT * FROM table LIMIT 15000, 15
>
>Deprecated syntax for PostgreSQL. Use LIMIT ... OFFSET ... instead.
>
>SELECT * FROM table LIMIT 15 OFFSET 15000
>
>Jochem
>
>

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list?

2002-08-31 Thread Paris Lundis

Is the list down? haven't received anything in last 12 hours I suspect...

-paris

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RE: html2jpg

2002-08-30 Thread Paris Lundis

file is found here BTW:

http://www.efflare.com/download/



-Original Message-
From: Zac Spitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: html2jpg


James Smith wrote:
> Some time ago there was a thread about HTML2JPG (http://www.html2jpg.com/)
> and using it to create screen shots of web sites.
>
> Has anyone got it to work with the cfexecute tag?
>
> It works just fine when I execute it directly or with a batch file from
> windows, but either method with CF just produces screenshots of my desktop
> which is not a whole lot of use to me.

use the cfx_html2bmp from http://www.efflare.com it's free


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RE: html2jpg

2002-08-30 Thread Paris Lundis

so I checked the utility out finally last hour... I downloaded and installed
the Enterprise version... Have CF 5.0 running on the server... Pretty nice
utility... unsure of the major differences for our application use between
the two offered versions...

First, it installs in a program directory nested under program files

Make a copy of the directory at the lowest level where things are and put
that in your root on C: and call it just HTML2JPG...

>From there this script should work to rip the URL found after /S to a file
called areaindex.jpg under c:\temp as specified there...




-paris
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-Original Message-
From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 5:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: html2jpg


Some time ago there was a thread about HTML2JPG (http://www.html2jpg.com/)
and using it to create screen shots of web sites.

Has anyone got it to work with the cfexecute tag?

It works just fine when I execute it directly or with a batch file from
windows, but either method with CF just produces screenshots of my desktop
which is not a whole lot of use to me.

Help?

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RE: Test

2002-08-30 Thread Paris Lundis

gone away so far on my end.

-Original Message-
From: mm m [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Test


Are people still getting bounce backs on their posts or has it gone away?

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RE: Test

2002-08-30 Thread Paris Lundis

No biggie I understand... Wanted to make sure in all the volume I hadn't
missed it... been drowning this week with many list volumes and some tools I
have been writing here which send mails my way when things happen :)

-paris


-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Test


I want to but this whole list thing came up and the new code has superceded
the old in many ways. The spam catcher alone is totally rewritten and is
handling most of the spam that's being sent system way. Once I make a few
additional changes, then it wouldn't even show up in the archives.
Its a priority thing and that's gotten bumped down a bit.


> Just doing my part to let you know...
>
> BTW: did you manage to get your materials from the recent talk about how
the
> list operates web ready so I could check them out?? Sorry I am not local
to
> you guys :(
>
> -paris
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:29 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Test
>
>
> Some of you posting on this thread may accidentally get some returned
error
> messages. That's been fixed already. Sorry.
>
>
> > Nope. EST. I've upgraded the entire list setup and I want to test it a
bit
> before the 'normal' people wake up to use it.
> >
> > >Hi Mike,
> > >
> > >5am? Your not talking GMT I take it ;-)
> > >
> >
>
>

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RE: test

2002-08-30 Thread Paris Lundis

hehe.. the universal time difference What time is it there Kym?

-paris

-Original Message-
From: Kym Kovan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: test


We're here :-)

>Anyone who is on right now and wants to reply to this test post, please do
>so. Please DO NOT post to this thread past 5am. Thank you.

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Yours,

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