Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3.?

[Ed W0YK]

No.73,Ed W0YK
 Original message From: Josep via Elecraft 
 Date: 1/11/24  07:06  (GMT-08:00) To: Elecraft 
Reflector  Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3.? 
Howdy.!Is there a possibility to connect a P3 to a K3/0 Mini..?Thanks.73, 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini or equivalent for HF-mobile use

[Chester Latawiec]

I have a K3/0 (not mini) for sale.  $750 shipped.
W2NHA

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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:04:01 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini or equivalent for HF-mobile use

Hi , I hope this is the right group to ask



I would like to use  a K3S for my HF mobile (CW) operation positioned in the
trunk of the car.

1.  Is it possible controlling it only with one shielded control cable
to a K3/0-min (light weight), installed near the dashboard?
2.  If so , were can I find such a K3/0-mini used ? Price?



Tnx, Cu, vy 73 de Andy

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

The K3/0 Mini is sold.  Thanks for your interest.

73

Gerry W1VE

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, 11:58 AM Gerry Hull  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a spare K3/0 mini I which is surplus to my needs.  It is
> the original K3/0 Mini, serial number 8152.
>
> I will also include an Elecraft octopus cable which may need some TLC.
> The K3/0 mini is in perfect condition (photo upon request.)
>
> First $450 to Venmo or Zelle takes it.
> Free USPS Priority shipping in the US.
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry W1VE
> Hancock, NH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini and FT8/Q65 / Remoterig

[Scott Townley]

I didn't find a simple way.

Assuming you have the remoterig set up for SSB/voice, what I did was to 
route the soundcard TX audio to the mic input on the radio RR.  To do 
that I used an old Rigblaster, which allowed me to easily switch the AF 
input to the RR between mic and soundcard. There are many ways to do 
this cheaper but I had the Rigblaster gathering dust.


As to RX audio, I used the SPKR output on the side of the K3/0-mini.  
That means switching between soundcard RX audio and a speaker/headset 
for human RX.  Or you could come up with a similar switching arrangement 
as with TX audio.



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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 13:30:26 +0100
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini and FT8/Q65 / Remoterig
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Hello K3 owners.

My Remote setup is K3 connected to the Remoterig box at the QTH site, at
home operating it with K3/0-mini.,

I prefer CW, but from time to time  want to try some Digimodes.

WHAT TO I HAVE TO DO FOR THAT MODE WITH K3/0-MINI / REMOTERIG.?

Com port 1 and 2 at the Radio RRC is connected to the K3 ,and KPA500.

At the QTH K3 working very well with the connections Line in/Line out to
the PC in Q65 mode on EME.

73' Viggo LA9NEA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini, XV432, RemoteRig and more for Sale

[Mike Lewis]

Updated previous list and added other items, making room in the new shack.

For sale now:

DEMI 902/3 Xvtr, 10W 144 IF.  $275.
DEMI 1296 Xvtr, 3W, 144 IF. $275.
All Xvtrs above are modified to use a DigiLo PLL via a SMA but can be easily 
flipped back to the crystal if desired.  

Elecraft K3/0-Mini-F remote control head.  $700.

Adding These:
Tektronix 475A  Oscope - $200 

Make offer on these! - The heavy items I am not likely to ship.
TS-930S  HF rig, 100W
TS-700A  All mode 2M rig, 10W
2.5KW water cooled Bird dummy load
50uA Bird wattmeter in steel case (regular Bird 43 is 30uA and smaller meter 
face).  Maybe works with dummy load
60Mhz network analyzer, connects to PC
Sola Basic RF wattmeter - White metal case, clone of a Bird 43, uses same slugs.
Tektronix 1401 Spectrum analyzer Module.  12V operation, uses an oscope for 
display.


Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini N1MM+ not sending CW from function keys

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

hello I still have the problem that N1MM+ is not sending CW from function
keys. I tried on a second computer and happen de same, so seems the problem
is not in the PC

Anyone with the same setup that can help me with that?

thanks in advance!

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

El jue, 23 jun 2022 a las 9:35, Jorge Diez - CX6VM ()
escribió:

> Hello
>
> I have a remote connection, K3/100, K3/0 mini connected with remoterig
> boxes
>
> It was working perfectly. I needed to format the control laptop. Installed
> Windows 10 again and all software.
>
> I can do SSB and digital, also I can send CW with paddles, BUT I cannot
> send CW with N1MM+ function keys
>
> RRC1258 Com0 (Com3)
>
> In N1MM+/config  COM3 is  configured  "CW/Other", and set "DTR to CW".
>
> the RR Control unit.  Under IO settings, "USB DTR as CW" to be "COM0"
>
> in the K3 CONFIG, PTT KEY = OFF OFF
>
> I think this settings are correct, but N1MM+`s function keys are not
> sending CW to the radio
>
> any idea what to check?
>
> thanks!
>
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> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Jorge:

> On Jun 9, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I have a K3/100 on the radio site and a K3/0 Mini on the control site,
> running perfectly with remoterig boxes
> 
> How can I add the P3 SVGA to the control site?
> 
> Couldn't find the connections for that in Google

Remoterig does not support the P3/SVGA nor does Elecraft offer a remote option 
for the P3.I have the K3/0-Mini along with the K3-KPA-500-KAT500-P3 at my 
ham shack in southeast Georgia.  

I’m aware of two options for ’seeing’ the P3 remotely:

1. Install a video capture board in the ham shack computer and camera aimed at 
the P3 and then view the P3 by accessing the ham shack computer to see the 
video.  However, I’m not aware of any currently available video capture boards 
per se.  You’d have to search to see if these are still available.  This 
approach has been discussed in the past on this reflector, but it has been 
awhile since anyone has posted anything about it.

2. Use the IF output from the back of the P3 and connect a SDR receiver (such 
as SDRPlay devices), install the appropriate SDR software on the ham shack 
computer, and install OmniRig to have the software track the frequency of the 
K3/100. I have done this with SDRPlay's SDRduo running their SDRuno software 
that has the ‘hooks’ for OmniRig.  It is then possible to view a spectrum 
display running available through the SDRuno  that will replicate what the P3 
can show directly.   When I turn on the RX ANT on the K3/0-Mini, it allows 
OmniRig to interface between the K3 and the SDRuno software and subsequently as 
I change frequencies/bands on the K3, the SDRuno software follows along.  I can 
also set the frequency of the K3 by specifying the frequency within SDRuno 
software.

While I’ve done this with SDRPlay hardware and software (I already had the 
SDRduo in my shack before trying this), presumably the same thing can be done 
with “SDR dongles” such as NooElec using other SDR programs such as SDR Sharp, 
SDR Console, etc.  However, I don’t know if these packages provide the OmniRig 
interface to ensure that the spectrum display is controlled by the K3.  SDRPlay 
also offers single tuner SDR devices (SDRduo is a dual-tuner) such as the RSP1A 
and RSPdx. See: www.sdrplay.com .

Bottom line is that the “work around” is to have a PC in the shack that can 
utilize a SDR device (connected via USB) with an IF input coming from the P3 
that can subsequently be controlled by the K3 to show a spectrum display.  This 
means you’ll also have to connect to the PC in the shack through remote 
software such as VNC Viewer (from RealVNC.com ) or another 
package such as TeamViewer.  The SDRplay website does have generic 
documentation and videos on how to connect HF transceivers to their SDRs and 
how to configure SDRuno so that the SDR can provide a spectrum display (As I 
recall, they use the Kenwood 570G as their example).  See: 
https://www.sdrplay.com/apps-catalogue/ 
.




Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)



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> Jorge
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3

[Julia Tuttle]

I'm not sure that's possible. RemoteRig relays serial control traffic and
audio input and output, but panadapters require a separate, broader band
signal (IF for the P3, AF for the PX3) from the rig.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022, 09:03 Jorge Diez - CX6VM  wrote:

> Hello
>
> I have a K3/100 on the radio site and a K3/0 Mini on the control site,
> running perfectly with remoterig boxes
>
> How can I add the P3 SVGA to the control site?
>
> Couldn't find the connections for that in Google
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 as a code oscillator

[William Liporace]

Hi Folks,
yes, the TX Test works great on the K3. NO issues..
I have the K3/0 mini which would work great.

I know there are speakers, but I don't hear anything. At least a quick 
try the one headset didn't work


Will WC2L

On 9/23/2021 8:50 PM, Ed K1EP wrote:
Just turn on TX TEST mode on the K3, no need to fiddle with power. The 
K3/0 should also work, but I always key the RRC so I am not positive.


reply to: k...@arrl.net 

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 20:25 Ted Edwards W3TB > wrote:


I use my K3 as the oscillator for teaching my CWadvisors Beginners
Class.

I turn the power down to zero watts.  With a set of ear buds I can
put one
over the laptop microphone with a paper clip rigged to hold it on
and the
other in one ear.

Rube Goldberg would be so proud!


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> Hi Folks,
> Can you use a K3/0 as a code oscillator?
> I wanted to take it to work as a code oscillator
>
> TNX Will WC2L
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 as a code oscillator

[Ed K1EP]

Just turn on TX TEST mode on the K3, no need to fiddle with power. The K3/0
should also work, but I always key the RRC so I am not positive.

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On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 20:25 Ted Edwards W3TB  wrote:

> I use my K3 as the oscillator for teaching my CWadvisors Beginners Class.
>
> I turn the power down to zero watts.  With a set of ear buds I can put one
> over the laptop microphone with a paper clip rigged to hold it on and the
> other in one ear.
>
> Rube Goldberg would be so proud!
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 20:02 William Liporace  wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> > Can you use a K3/0 as a code oscillator?
> > I wanted to take it to work as a code oscillator
> >
> > TNX Will WC2L
> >
> > --
> > William Liporace WC2L
> > http://www.wc2l.com or http://dxc.wc2l.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 as a code oscillator

[Ted Edwards W3TB]

I use my K3 as the oscillator for teaching my CWadvisors Beginners Class.

I turn the power down to zero watts.  With a set of ear buds I can put one
over the laptop microphone with a paper clip rigged to hold it on and the
other in one ear.

Rube Goldberg would be so proud!


On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 20:02 William Liporace  wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> Can you use a K3/0 as a code oscillator?
> I wanted to take it to work as a code oscillator
>
> TNX Will WC2L
>
> --
> William Liporace WC2L
> http://www.wc2l.com or http://dxc.wc2l.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:19 AM David Bondy  wrote:
>
> I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever 
> resolved.
>
> If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by 
> a cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs?
>
> My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position 
> and the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have 
> to use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable.
>
> Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ‘local’ remote connection?

This used to work, back in the K3/0 non-mini days. You'd connect the
two using a null-modem cable, and invoke "terminal mode" with a long
press (~5 seconds) of the MENU button. The manual for the "mini" is a
bit vague, but it looks like its connection to the RRC box is TTL, not
RS232, so to connect that to a K3 directly might require a level
converter interface.

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

David:

> On Aug 19, 2020, at 2:17 PM, David Bondy  wrote:
> 
> I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever 
> resolved.
> 
> If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by 
> a cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs?

The issue is how to get all of the connections from the K3/0-Mini to the K3.  
The “Elecraft K3-Remote Owner’s Manual” (Revision D, April 3, 2014) discusses 
two methods of installing the K3-Remote variants:

1. Via the RemoteRig 1258MKII approach that connects to your personal K3 at the 
ham shack and a second RemoteRig to the K3-Remote.  This is what I’ve done.

2.  Using the K3-Remote via a PC through a USB connection.  This is meant to 
provide access to on-line remote Ham rig services such as “Remote Hams’.  I 
have no idea what interface(s) are installed at these sites to their K3s.  

> 
> My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position 
> and the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have 
> to use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable.

I don’t know whether the two Remote Rigs would work directly connected through 
a reverse cable, you’d probably have to connect both to a LAN where both 
devices would be assigned a local IP address (either static or dynamic).  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)


> 
> Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ‘local’ remote connection?
> 
> Thanks. David G4NRT / Z21NRT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mike:

> On Dec 24, 2019, at 12:22 AM, Michael C. Marx  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> So I have a K3/0 Mini with the remoterig setup. My station is a K3, P3, 
> KAT500 and KPA500.  I want to be able to keep it all hooked up while 
> installing the remoterig system.  Is it possible to do this?  It looks like I 
> need to disconnect the ACC CABLE going to the KPA500 along with the RS232 
> line so the remoterig can be used.  That pretty much disables the rest of the 
> station. Am I missing something?   I sure don’t want to disconnect half of my 
> station everytime I want to use remote.  I’d sure like any pointers on 
> hooking this all up without disabling my station every time I want togo 
> remote.  Any help is sure appreciated

I know that others have responded to your query, but allow me to make some 
additional points.

1.  I presume that you purchased the remoterig from Elecraft and that you have 
the RemoteRig cables from Elecraft to connect the remoterig not only to the 
K3/0-mini but the remote rig to the K3.  These cables provide the critical 
interconnects needed for the K3/0-mini to function properly.  The K3/0-mini 
manual does a nice job of explaining how to make the proper connections.

2.  I use a y-adapter to connect the remoterig PTT cable to the PTT port of the 
K3 so that the PTT switch I use at the K3 will still function.  There is no 
problem having both PTTs connected at the same time.  This will allow the K3 go 
to into transmit by command of the remoterig or by the handswitch at the shack.

3.  I use a stereo y-adapter to connect the Remoterig Audio cable to the 
Speaker port of the K3 so that audio will be fed to both outputs.  This setup 
does cause my external speakers at the station to change volume when remote 
operating as it also provides audio to the Remoterig. In other words, the AF 
volume on the K3/0-mini will control both audio outputs.  Since I’m not at the 
station when operating remote and no one is around, having the speakers active 
doesn’t bother anyone.  If the K3 is located where audio might bother others, 
then either turn off the speakers (if they’re powered) or install a cutoff 
switch/unplug the speaker(s).  

4.  Keep in mind that the K3/0-mini controls what the K3 is doing as the 
K3/0-mini front panel is duplicating what the K3 is showing on its panel. That 
is, as you increase audio on the K3, it is also potentially increasing audio of 
speakers at the shack. If you set a parameter on the K3/0-mini, it is 
displaying what the K3 front panel is showing as that adjustment is made.  One 
area to note is how microphone management is done.  The Remoterig uses the rear 
mic connector of the K3.  Thus, on the K3/0-mini, you must use the K3 Menu to 
set the mic source to the rear connector.  If the mic connected to the 
K3/0-mini needs bias, you set that through the remoterig configuration.   In 
other words, mic selection through the K3 menu has nothing to do with the mic 
input of the K3/0-mini itself; rather it determines the mic input used by the 
K3 itself.  Both the 8-pin connector on the front panel of the K3/0-mini and 
the side Mic connector are active.  Thus, mic selection using the K3/0-mini 
does determine whether the mic input is from the Remoterig (rear mic) or from 
the K3 itself (front mic).  

5. Management of the KAT500 and KPA500 can be done several different ways.  
Clearly, basic operation of both units will work the same as before if the 
appropriate cable connections are installed as described in the Elecraft 
manuals.  One can use a remote connection to a PC in the shack and use the 
Elecraft utilities.  I prefer to manage the KPA500 with the Remoterig RC-1216H 
which provides a web-based display of the KPA500 front panel and is connected 
to the amplifier through a RS-232 connection.  This allows me to manage the 
amplifier with any PC, Mac, iOS device, etc.   I have port forwarding set up at 
the station so that I can access the RC-1216H directly.  As the RS-232 
connection is attached to the RC-1216H, I cannot use the KPA500 utility from 
the shack computer. However, I don’t see that as a problem.  

The KAT500 can be managed using the PC in the shack and then remotely 
connecting to the shack computer to manage the KAT500 running on the shack 
computer.   I manage the KAT500 one of two ways.  I’ve installed a 
serial-to-ethernet converter (Lantronics) which allows me to directly connect 
to the KAT500 remotely and run the KAT500 utility on the PC where I am.  Or, I 
can have the PC in the shack connect to that same serial-to-ethernet converter 
and run the KAT500 software on that machine.  In this instance, I use VNC 
Connect to access the shack computer using any PC, Mac, iOS device, etc.  
Sidenote: If I didn’t have the RC-1216H, I’d probably be managing the KPA500 
the same way.  

6.  Lastly, please keep in mind that if you’re intending to remotely operate 
from a significant distance from the shack, it is imperative that you test 

Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Jim Rhodes]

That's why I got mine from Elecraft.

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 9:05 AM Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> All 15 pin Y cables are not the same.  You need to have all 15 pins
> connected from end to end.  VGA cables will NOT work.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/24/2019 9:22 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
> > The ACC cable can be connected through a simple Y cable (I think I bought
> > mine from Elecraft) so that the remoterig box can be left connected all
> the
> > time. Or you can buy a YBox, or build your own like I did before they
> were
> > available.  As for the PTT, I put together a box with 6 parallel RCA
> jacks
> > for PTT on one side and 6 more on the other side for KEYOUT. (I have amps
> > for the 2 meter and 70 cm transverters.) The only other connection I need
> > to worry about is the serial cable. I updated the i/o boards to the new
> one
> > with the USB connection so that I can leave both the serial and USB
> cables
> > connected at all times. So no cable switching when I want to go remote. I
> > live in an apartment building, so my KPA500 is packed away in a box for
> the
> > time being.
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Don Wilhelm]

All 15 pin Y cables are not the same.  You need to have all 15 pins 
connected from end to end.  VGA cables will NOT work.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/24/2019 9:22 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:

The ACC cable can be connected through a simple Y cable (I think I bought
mine from Elecraft) so that the remoterig box can be left connected all the
time. Or you can buy a YBox, or build your own like I did before they were
available.  As for the PTT, I put together a box with 6 parallel RCA jacks
for PTT on one side and 6 more on the other side for KEYOUT. (I have amps
for the 2 meter and 70 cm transverters.) The only other connection I need
to worry about is the serial cable. I updated the i/o boards to the new one
with the USB connection so that I can leave both the serial and USB cables
connected at all times. So no cable switching when I want to go remote. I
live in an apartment building, so my KPA500 is packed away in a box for the
time being.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Jim Rhodes]

The ACC cable can be connected through a simple Y cable (I think I bought
mine from Elecraft) so that the remoterig box can be left connected all the
time. Or you can buy a YBox, or build your own like I did before they were
available.  As for the PTT, I put together a box with 6 parallel RCA jacks
for PTT on one side and 6 more on the other side for KEYOUT. (I have amps
for the 2 meter and 70 cm transverters.) The only other connection I need
to worry about is the serial cable. I updated the i/o boards to the new one
with the USB connection so that I can leave both the serial and USB cables
connected at all times. So no cable switching when I want to go remote. I
live in an apartment building, so my KPA500 is packed away in a box for the
time being.

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 07:03  wrote:

> Hi Mike. I sold my K0 setup a few months ago. It worked perfectly for
> years, but wanted to bring my K3 with me for the winter so I replaced it
> with a remote IC-7300. While up there for the summer I used to switch to
> remote mode when I went to the shore for the weekend, if I remember right
> there were three connections to  change. The PTT from foot switch to the
> remoterig box, the audio from local speaker to remoterig box, and the
> serial connection to local PC to the remoterig box. This took about a
> minute to switch over. I f I wanted to use the AMP and tuner I had to leave
> a local PC on running TeamViewer.
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> On Behalf Of Michael C. Marx
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:22 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini
>
> Hi all
>
> So I have a K3/0 Mini with the remoterig setup. My station is a K3, P3,
> KAT500 and KPA500.  I want to be able to keep it all hooked up while
> installing the remoterig system.  Is it possible to do this?  It looks like
> I need to disconnect the ACC CABLE going to the KPA500 along with the RS232
> line so the remoterig can be used.  That pretty much disables the rest of
> the station. Am I missing something?   I sure don’t want to disconnect half
> of my station everytime I want to use remote.  I’d sure like any pointers
> on hooking this all up without disabling my station every time I want togo
> remote.  Any help is sure appreciated
>
> 73 Mike WB0SND
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[kb2mjeff]

Hi Mike. I sold my K0 setup a few months ago. It worked perfectly for years, 
but wanted to bring my K3 with me for the winter so I replaced it with a remote 
IC-7300. While up there for the summer I used to switch to remote mode when I 
went to the shore for the weekend, if I remember right there were three 
connections to  change. The PTT from foot switch to the remoterig box, the 
audio from local speaker to remoterig box, and the serial connection to local 
PC to the remoterig box. This took about a minute to switch over. I f I wanted 
to use the AMP and tuner I had to leave a local PC on running TeamViewer. 

73 Jeff kb2m 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Michael C. Marx
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:22 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

Hi all

So I have a K3/0 Mini with the remoterig setup. My station is a K3, P3, KAT500 
and KPA500.  I want to be able to keep it all hooked up while installing the 
remoterig system.  Is it possible to do this?  It looks like I need to 
disconnect the ACC CABLE going to the KPA500 along with the RS232 line so the 
remoterig can be used.  That pretty much disables the rest of the station. Am I 
missing something?   I sure don’t want to disconnect half of my station 
everytime I want to use remote.  I’d sure like any pointers on hooking this all 
up without disabling my station every time I want togo remote.  Any help is 
sure appreciated

73 Mike WB0SND 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 complete remote system for sale

[jeff griffin]

The K3/0 remote package has been sold. Thanks for all the interest.

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

From: jeff griffin [mailto:k...@arrl.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 5:42 PM
To: 'Elecraft'
Cc: 'elecraft...@groups.io'
Subject: K3/0 complete remote system for sale

 

I have in excess of my needs a complete K3/0 remote system. This package
will include..

1.   A K3/0

2.   A remoteRig RRC-1258 MkII K3 Elecraft K3 twin set

3.   An Astron SS-18 power supply.

4.   A Yamaha CM500 headset w/PTT switch

5.   All cables needed at both ends to hook up and power on.

 

I used to run remote all of the time while traveling, but haven't used this
but twice in the last year. You really can't beat having an  actual
hardware radio, the K3/0 in front of you while remoting. All equipment in
scratch free, very good,  non smoker condition. Pictures available if
needed.  $975 for the package shipped insured CONUS. Will ship offshore, but
shipping will be extra, pre paid.

 

73 Jeff kb2m 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and CW

[Fred Jensen]

OK John, congrats on getting it to work.  Most of those settings do not 
apply to keying, but some will apply to getting N1MM+ working.


Without N1MM+, unplug the USB cable from the front panel of the 1258.
Get into Control Panel-->Device Mangler-->Ports and plug in the USB 
connector to the computer.

You should see 4 virtual COM ports appear, named:

RRC1258 COM0(XX)
RRC1258 COM1(YY)
RRC1258 COM2(ZZ)
RRC1258 COM Extra(UU)

The number in parens is the number assigned by Windows.  The RRC1258 
COM1 port is the CAT port to the remote radio.  Start N1MM+ and go to 
Configure-->Ports.  If you get a "Radio not responding" message, cancel 
it.  In the first configuration line, select "YY" [windows assigned port 
for RRC1258 COM1], K3, uncheck, uncheck, and click on Set.


In the window that comes up, 38400, N, 8, 1, Always Off, Always Off, 
Radio 1.  Uncheck Allow ext interrupts, uncheck the next 4 boxes, 
Footswitch=None, Polling rate=50% slower, OK.  The next row should be 
for your Winkey if you're using one.  Find the COM port # by unplugging 
and see which one goes away in Device Mangler and select it.  None, 
check CW, Set.  In set window, Always off, Always off, VFO 1, PTT 
Delay=20, uncheck ext interrupts, and check Winkey if that's what you're 
using, and None, None, OK


Close N1MM+ and restart.  That should do it for you.  Remote operation 
involves a lot of "moving parts." The odds of getting it to work on the 
first try are slim, if you do, go buy a lottery ticket.  The CAT on the 
remote K3 must be 38400, N, 8, 1.  Nearly all of the buttons and 
controls on the K3/0 should work as if you were at the real radio site 
including the MIC and PHONES connectors.  I'm not sure you can record CW 
or Phone messages in the memories from the control site, I've never 
tried because W7RN is a shared multi-user site.  Typing a frequency into 
the N1MM+ CALL field in the Entry window will [or should] send you to 
that band/frequency.


Let us know your progress.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/25/2019 1:39 PM, John Huffman wrote:
SUCCESS! I now have the external keyer working with the K3/0-Mini and 
RemoteRig boxes.  Many thanks to Chuck N8CL for sending me his settings.


Here's what he sent.

I/O:
INO mode=keyer
out 0=keyer
out1=keyer
out2=keyer
USB RTS as PTT=com 0
USB DTR as PTT=com 0

Keyer:
enable=yes
iambic=b
all those number entries in order: 30/600/40/100/50/10/40

Serial:
com 1 mode = mode 7, cat to com 2 (remote)
com 1 baud 38,400
data=8
stop=1
parity=0
com 1 RTS/cts=no
hex=00
USB com port as com 1 = yes
 com 2 mode=logical parallel with com 0
baud=38400
8-1-0
hex=00
USB com port as com 2=no
com 3(extra) mode (USB-com fsk)=mode-10 baudot rtty

I have no idea which ones worked, but the end result is that if I plug 
the output of the external keyer into the KEY jack on the back of the 
K3/0-Mini it works.


The next challenge is to get the RemoteRig client box to send 
frequency data to N1MM+ on my computer.  Help always appreciated.


73 de K1ESE
John


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and CW

[John Huffman]

SUCCESS!  I now have the external keyer working with the K3/0-Mini and 
RemoteRig boxes.  Many thanks to Chuck N8CL for sending me his settings.


Here's what he sent.

I/O:
INO mode=keyer
out 0=keyer
out1=keyer
out2=keyer
USB RTS as PTT=com 0
USB DTR as PTT=com 0

Keyer:
enable=yes
iambic=b
all those number entries in order: 30/600/40/100/50/10/40

Serial:
com 1 mode = mode 7, cat to com 2 (remote)
com 1 baud 38,400
data=8
stop=1
parity=0
com 1 RTS/cts=no
hex=00
USB com port as com 1 = yes
 com 2 mode=logical parallel with com 0
baud=38400
8-1-0
hex=00
USB com port as com 2=no
com 3(extra) mode (USB-com fsk)=mode-10 baudot rtty

I have no idea which ones worked, but the end result is that if I plug 
the output of the external keyer into the KEY jack on the back of the 
K3/0-Mini it works.


The next challenge is to get the RemoteRig client box to send frequency 
data to N1MM+ on my computer.  Help always appreciated.


73 de K1ESE
John



On 7/22/2019 6:04 AM, John Huffman wrote:
I'm setting up a K3/0-Mini to control my K3 remotely.  I would like to 
use an external keyer (Logikeyer) since I don't like the timing of the 
RemoteRig keyer. I have questions.


Does the KEY jack on the back of the K3/0-Mini do anything?  If it 
operates like a straight key I could send my keyer output to that jack.


I've seen suggestions to modify the cable to the I/O jack on the 
RemoteRig box and insert the keyer output there.  Does this interfere 
with the other I/O functions of the K3/0-Mini?


73 de K1ESE
John


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and CW

[Fred Jensen]

Ummm ... sometimes we tend to inflate the magnitude of a problem ... 
just try it out.  Plug a straight key [or your keyer] into the KEY jack 
on the K3/0 and see if it works.  I believe the odds are way better than 
even that it will, especially if the cable plugged into the 1258 I/O 
jack is part of the "quadrapus" cable set that Elecraft sells for 
exactly this purpose.


I do not have a K3/0, I operate W7RN remotely with my K3, and the I/O 
RJ45 on the back of my 1258 is empty, so I key using pin 4. However, 
I've coached several with K3/0's to get configured properly for W7RN and 
they plug the key, bug, or keyer into the KEY jack.


Try it out ... we're Amateurs, what could go wrong?

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/22/2019 12:47 PM, John Huffman wrote:

Mitch -

That has worked for other radios and my RemoteRig box, but the 
K3/0-Mini has a connector that is already plugged into the I/O jack.  
I tried taking it out and using the connector I used with other 
radios, but that didn't work.  I wonder if I disconnect pin 4 from the 
Elecraft connector and instead connect my keyer output to pin 4 if 
that will do damage or disrupt the operation of the K3/0-Mini?


73,
John



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and CW

[John Huffman]

Mitch -

That has worked for other radios and my RemoteRig box, but the K3/0-Mini 
has a connector that is already plugged into the I/O jack.  I tried 
taking it out and using the connector I used with other radios, but that 
didn't work.  I wonder if I disconnect pin 4 from the Elecraft connector 
and instead connect my keyer output to pin 4 if that will do damage or 
disrupt the operation of the K3/0-Mini?


73,
John

On 7/22/2019 12:59 PM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX wrote:

John,

You need to use the RRC's I/O port. See the RemoteRig manual pages 94,
95 and 242 (Appendix B) for details. This will not affect the K3/0 mini.

73,
Mitch

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On 22.07.2019 06:04, John Huffman wrote:

I'm setting up a K3/0-Mini to control my K3 remotely.  I would like to
use an external keyer (Logikeyer) since I don't like the timing of the
RemoteRig keyer. I have questions.

Does the KEY jack on the back of the K3/0-Mini do anything?  If it
operates like a straight key I could send my keyer output to that jack.

I've seen suggestions to modify the cable to the I/O jack on the
RemoteRig box and insert the keyer output there.  Does this interfere
with the other I/O functions of the K3/0-Mini?

73 de K1ESE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 and CW

[Fred Jensen]

John: If you are using the "Quadrapus cable set" that Elecraft sells for 
the K3/0-RRC1258 combo, I believe the answer is "Yes."  I remote to W7RN 
using my K3 and don't have a K3/0 but I've coached others who do get 
their configuration right and that's how they do it.  Pin 4 of the RJ45 
I/O connector on the back of the 1258 is the key line [pin 8 is ground] 
and you can use it instead, however the Elecraft cable set takes care of 
all the interconnections for you.


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/22/2019 3:04 AM, John Huffman wrote:
I'm setting up a K3/0-Mini to control my K3 remotely.  I would like to 
use an external keyer (Logikeyer) since I don't like the timing of the 
RemoteRig keyer. I have questions.


Does the KEY jack on the back of the K3/0-Mini do anything?  If it 
operates like a straight key I could send my keyer output to that jack.


I've seen suggestions to modify the cable to the I/O jack on the 
RemoteRig box and insert the keyer output there.  Does this interfere 
with the other I/O functions of the K3/0-Mini?


73 de K1ESE
John


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 etc remote control system followup

[David Windisch]

Hi, all concerned:

The remote system is now installed and operating in the site pictured on my
QRZ page.
A 40M inverted-vee dipole at 120 ft apex height does play fairly well.
Better antennas and higher power are forthcoming 
  
We had a long cold dark thunderstormy late session setting up the
SPECTRUM-provided ARRIS router properly.
SPECTRUM does not allow access to the router by WAN; only by LAN.
Next test will be to take a generic router to the site and see if we can set
it up for WAN access.

Tks for the responses to my question re inaccessible K3S functions.
I'll take that issue to the remoterig reflector.

Brgds,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 etc remote control system

[Richard Ferch]

Dave,

I know this works with the DVK voice memories, because I have done exactly
that. However, you will not be able to program CW/digital message memories
as easily, because they have to be recorded using the K3's internal CW
keyer (from the paddle jack). You can't record them from the straight key
jack, which is the CW keying connection that the RRC uses.

There is an alternative way to program these messages using the K3 Utility,
but I don't know whether you can safely use the K3 Utility over a remote
connection for this purpose.

If you use radio control/logging software that has the capability to use
the Winkeyer in the RRC, that software probably has its own CW message
memories that you can use instead of the K3's message memories (for
example, the function key messages in N1MM+).

For similar reasons, the CW-to-Data feature (sending RTTY or PSK using a CW
paddle) is not likely to be possible using a remote connection.

73,
Rich VE3KI


N3HE wrote:

Hi, all concerned:

With much help from many sources, for which I am thankful, I now have an
operational remote control system: K3/0 to remoterig 1258 in Cincinnati OH
to 'net to remoterig 1258 to K3S to antenna in Dayton OH.

The remote system has worked fine so far. I've had a number of CW and SSB
Q's, mostly on 40M.

I tried to program the front-panel MESSAGE memories per the K3S user manual
instructions, and was unsuccessful, which got me to wondering if others have
found inoperative functions.

I look forward to any and all responses, tks.

Brgds,
Dave, N3HE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 etc remote control system

[Fred Jensen]

You can send from the message memories pre-programmed into the remote 
K3, however you cannot program them remotely as you found.  I'm not sure 
about AD REC and AF PLAY, haven't tried them.  I don't believe you can 
program macros into switches remotely either, but again, haven't tried 
although I believe if the remote K3 is programmed [e.g. PF1=SPKR+PH], 
then I think you can activate it from your control K3/0.  After thinking 
thru how the K3/0-K3 interface works, these few functions make sense.


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 2/22/2019 3:37 PM, David Windisch wrote:

Hi, all concerned:

With much help from many sources, for which I am thankful, I now have an
operational remote control system: K3/0 to remoterig 1258 in Cincinnati OH
to 'net to remoterig 1258 to K3S to antenna in Dayton OH.

The remote system has worked fine so far. I've had a number of CW and SSB
Q's, mostly on 40M.

I tried to program the front-panel MESSAGE memories per the K3S user manual
instructions, and was unsuccessful, which got me to wondering if others have
found inoperative functions.

I look forward to any and all responses, tks.

Brgds,
Dave, N3HE



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and remoterig integration

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Well

now I know, that in 2013, Microbit made a PCB which fitted into the K3/0
mini with all included, even Wifi,

Would me good if Elecraft take again this and now do something about it

PCB is working, Microbit CEO use it

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

El sáb., 9 feb. 2019 a las 10:55, Jorge Diez - CX6VM ()
escribió:

> I did my first travel with my remote setuo (K3/100 and remoterig) and i
> was thinking to minimize the cabling and size of the setup.
>
> A lot of gear and cabling to do, so went to my mind, the idea of a K3/0
> Mini with a kind of remoterig INSIDE and most of the cabling already made
>
> So K3/0 Mini cable set, will be already connected inside
>
> Paddle integrated on the "new" K3/0 Mini
>
> You will control CW speed with K3, so no need of remoterig CW pot
>
> Mic integrated on the "new" K3/0 mini, a telescoping boom to reach your
> face
>
> Just need to connect a pair of USB cables to the laptop and is ready!
>
> Of course this will need some work togheter from Elecraft and Microbit,
> but would be very good to have this simplified for the user
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini disassembly

[Nr4c]

If there is an Assembly Manual look into it for assistance. If not, maybe some 
help in the operators manual?. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 19, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Scott Townley  wrote:
> 
> I have a K3/0-mini that I removed the rear bail from.  Basically I unscrewed 
> the four screws, cracked open the case just a bit, and shook all the internal 
> hardware (nuts/washers) out, and buttoned it back up.
> Now I want to put the bail back on.  I've gotten the case fully opened up 
> (two halves), but I'm having a challenge with the PCB that's attached to the 
> rear half.  It appears those four black "nubs" that you can see on the back 
> are some sort of nylon standoff that's being used for stiffening the PCB.  
> But it's not obvious to me how to remove them or otherwise disengage them.  
> Of course I'd prefer to do this without destroying them and leaving four 
> holes in the back.
> Any suggestions?
> TIA,
> Scott NX7U
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 headset or desk mic suggestions

[1lasportsman 1lasportsman]

I have used a Heil headset and the desk Heil HM12 and also a Kenwood mike all 
wired for the kenwood.
they all work fine.

> On January 15, 2019 at 9:16 AM Fred Massey  mailto:fhmas...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> I purchased a heil headset, and I’m running into a bias problem using the
> K3/0.
> 
> I want to work the SSB NAQP remotely and need my hands to be free.
> 
> Has anyone a solution to using a K3/0 with either a headset or desk mic?
> 
> 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 headset or desk mic suggestions

[Fred Massey]

I got the heil mic to work by using the jack on the left side of the K3/0,
and setting the configuration to rp.l.


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:16 AM Fred Massey  wrote:

> I purchased a heil headset, and I’m running into a bias problem using the
> K3/0.
>
> I want to work the SSB NAQP remotely and need my hands to be free.
>
> Has anyone a solution to using a K3/0 with either a headset or desk mic?
>
> 73,
> Fred AE4ED
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3/0 mini rx audio out]

[Mark Gebhardt]

I also use this same amp with my KX3 using an old surround sound speaker (2
speakers in one box) and it works great. I needed more volume for Field Day
and JOTA when there is a crowd trying to listen to the activity.

Mark
K9ZQ



I use this external audio amp with my KX3 to drive speakers. It is just a
few
components wrapped around a standard audio amp chip. Stereo, 15 W per
channel, volume control, runs on 9-18 V, costs $9.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/ <
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/>

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3/0 mini rx audio out]

[David Windisch]

All concerned:

Tks for the early helps, OMs.

At least one suggestion  rcvd off-reflector is useful: adjust the AFG at the
remote-site end.

All problems , once solved, are simple.

Brgds & tks to all concerned from Dave, N3HE.



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3/0 mini rx audio out]

[Walter Underwood]

I use this external audio amp with my KX3 to drive speakers. It is just a few
components wrapped around a standard audio amp chip. Stereo, 15 W per
channel, volume control, runs on 9-18 V, costs $9.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/ 


wunder
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> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:38 AM, David Windisch  wrote:
> 
> All concerned:
> 
> I've searched the archives to no avail for the solution to this challenge.
> If there were refs, I missed 'em.
> 
> The Heil, CM500 etc., etc., cans I've tried out, on the K3/0 mini front and
> side audio outputs, simply do not put enough sound pressure on my TOEs
> (tired old ears).
> The K3S, however, _does_ put enough sound pressure on my TOEs, with _all_
> the can/mic sets I have, especially with the WWII hi-z antique sets.
> 
> Has anyone out there in radioland found:
> 1. a set of cans that doesn't need an external audio amp, or
> 2. a suitable external audio amp, ?
> 
> Brgds & tks from Dave, N3HE.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 MINI manual or photos

[Charles Tropp]

No, it does not. These are 3.5mm female jacks.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 4:52 PM Jorge Diez (CX6VM-CW5W) <
cx6vm.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Charly
>
> I thought there’s a specific K3/0 mini manual, like the K3 manual, that
> show all plugs that it have
>
> For example, PTT in the back, is RCA plug?
>
> Thanks
> Jorge
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El 16 nov. 2018, a la(s) 21:41, Charles Tropp 
> escribió:
>
> Hi Jorge,
>
> On the Elecraft website, click on the menu, select *support, manuals *and
> in the next window click the red *view  *button next to *K-Line Product
> Manuals *and then scroll down to the K3/0 Manual and click the red view
> button. In the next window under title click the name of the manual in
> blue. Voila!
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:01 PM Jorge Diez - CX6VM 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> do you know where to find K3/0 MINI photos (front/back/sides) to see all
>> connecttos that it have?
>>
>> Manual is only for sale on Elecraft website
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Jorge
>> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 MINI manual or photos

[Jorge Diez (CX6VM-CW5W)]

Thanks Charly

I thought there’s a specific K3/0 mini manual, like the K3 manual, that show 
all plugs that it have

For example, PTT in the back, is RCA plug? 

Thanks
Jorge 

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 16 nov. 2018, a la(s) 21:41, Charles Tropp  escribió:

> Hi Jorge,
> 
> On the Elecraft website, click on the menu, select support, manuals and in 
> the next window click the red view  button next to K-Line Product Manuals and 
> then scroll down to the K3/0 Manual and click the red view button. In the 
> next window under title click the name of the manual in blue. Voila!
> 
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:01 PM Jorge Diez - CX6VM  
> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> do you know where to find K3/0 MINI photos (front/back/sides) to see all
>> connecttos that it have?
>> 
>> Manual is only for sale on Elecraft website
>> 
>> -- 
>> 73,
>> Jorge
>> CX6VM/CW5W
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 MINI manual or photos

[Charles Tropp]

Hi Jorge,

On the Elecraft website, click on the menu, select *support, manuals *and
in the next window click the red *view  *button next to *K-Line Product
Manuals *and then scroll down to the K3/0 Manual and click the red view
button. In the next window under title click the name of the manual in
blue. Voila!

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:01 PM Jorge Diez - CX6VM 
wrote:

> Hello
>
> do you know where to find K3/0 MINI photos (front/back/sides) to see all
> connecttos that it have?
>
> Manual is only for sale on Elecraft website
>
> --
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Firmware

[Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX]

Barry,

No, I didn't notice anything, but my understanding was that I needed to 
make the update(s) to maintain compatibility between the control and 
radio side.


Firmware updates have slowed way down over the last few years, but there 
were a number of enhancements made within the period following the 
release of the original K3/0 and then K3/0 Mini that required to update 
both sides and keep them in sync. I can't remember the details or why, 
but Wayne or Eric would remember. I still do my best to maintain them in 
sync, although this may no longer be as critical as it was in the past 
(I am not into taking risks and it only takes a couple of minutes).


73,
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On 26.07.2018 22:39, Barry Baines wrote:

Mitch:


On Jul 26, 2018, at 3:45 PM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX > wrote:


Dennis and Hisashi,

I have updated my K3/0 from time to time using the newest firmware 
for the K3. Just connect the PC directly to the COM port and the K3 
Utility will recognize and update it.th  n


Thanks for the clarification on updating the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini 
firmware by using the K3 firmware.


Question:   Once you updated the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini with new firmware, 
did you notice any changes in capabilities of the “control site” 
equipment (K3/0) or compatibility with the K3/K3S ‘remote site’ 
equipment (which presumably has newer firmware as well)?


I ask because I’ve been fairly diligent about updating the K3 firmware 
from time-to-time but haven’t updated my K3/0-Mini devices at all (I 
have a device at two different locations).  The oldest K3/0-Mini was 
purchased in August 2014.  I’m wondering how critical the updates are 
to the “K3/0” devices.  From what I can tell, the K3/K3S firmware 
revision documentation doesn’t differentiate between features that 
impact the K3/K3S versus what impacts the “K3/0” devices.


73,

Barry, WD4ASW




73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Firmware

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mitch:


> On Jul 26, 2018, at 3:45 PM, Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX  wrote:
> 
> Dennis and Hisashi,
> 
> I have updated my K3/0 from time to time using the newest firmware for the 
> K3. Just connect the PC directly to the COM port and the K3 Utility will 
> recognize and update it.th  n

Thanks for the clarification on updating the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini firmware by 
using the K3 firmware.  

Question:   Once you updated the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini with new firmware, did you 
notice any changes in capabilities of the “control site” equipment (K3/0) or 
compatibility with the K3/K3S ‘remote site’ equipment (which presumably has 
newer firmware as well)?  

I ask because I’ve been fairly diligent about updating the K3 firmware from 
time-to-time but haven’t updated my K3/0-Mini devices at all (I have a device 
at two different locations).  The oldest K3/0-Mini was purchased in August 
2014.  I’m wondering how critical the updates are to the “K3/0” devices.  From 
what I can tell, the K3/K3S firmware revision documentation doesn’t 
differentiate between features that impact the K3/K3S versus what impacts the 
“K3/0” devices.  

73,

Barry, WD4ASW


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Firmware

[Nr4c]

I don’t think there is much in the box to update. 

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> On Jul 26, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka  wrote:
> 
> Did you hear anything? I'm wondering the same thing.
> 
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Dennis Egan wrote:
>> 
>> I have had a K3/0 for about 5 years now.  In that time, I don't recall ever
>> doing a Firmware update on it.  Does it require one?
>> 
>> What is the current firmware for the K3/0?
>> 
>> Dennis W1UE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Firmware

[Mitch Wolfson DJ0QN / K7DX]

Dennis and Hisashi,

I have updated my K3/0 from time to time using the newest firmware for 
the K3. Just connect the PC directly to the COM port and the K3 Utility 
will recognize and update it.


73,
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On 26.07.2018 19:37, Barry Baines via Elecraft wrote:

Hisashi:
Dennis:

As far as I can tell, there have been no firmware updates specifically released 
for the K3/0 or the K3/I0-mini on the Elecraft website.

In the “Firmware and Software” page 
(http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm 
), there aren’t 
any firmware packages specifically identified for the K3/0 and K3/0-Mini.

In the Manuals and Downloads page 
(http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm 
) there is a “K3-Remote” 
selection:

-The latest K3-Remote Owners Manual (PDF) was released on 3 APR 14 
(http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20Remote%20Owner's%20Manual%20%20Rev%20D.pdf 
)

-The manual (Page 22) makes clear that the K3 Utility is compatible with the 
K3/0 and K3/0-Mini:

"From time to time, new features may be made available to K3/0, K3/0-Mini and 
K3 owners via firmware upgrades that you can download and install. Please visit the 
Elecraft K3 software page (www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm) to obtain our free 
firmware download application, the K3 Utility. This program runs on PCs, Macs, and 
Linux platforms.”



The document on page 22 also explains how to determine the unit’s firmware and 
serial number:

"Use the K3/0, K3/0-Mini or K3 CONFIG menu’s FW REVS menu entry to determine 
your firmware revision. The serial number of your K3/0, K3/0-Mini or K3, if needed, 
can be obtained using the SER NUM menu entry. This is the serial number of the K3/0, 
K3/0-Mini or K3 at the control site. It is not the serial number of the equipment 
used at the remote site.”

By “remote site” this is defined as the K3 that the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini is 
connected and the “control site” is where the operator is located (K3/0 and 
K3/0-mini). See “List of Terms” on page 4 of the “K3-Remote Owners Manual.”

Since the “K3-Remote Manual” is now over four years old and an updated document 
has not been released, it would also seem that the firmware installed on the 
K3/0-Remote devices hasn't been updated.

That said, the manual does not clearly state whether a separate firmware 
package is used by the K3/0 and K3/0-Mini versus the K3/K3S.  The wording could 
be interpreted to suggest that the same firmware package is used for both the 
“Remote” and “Control” devices.  Perhaps Wayne, N6KR or Don, W3FPR can clarify 
this for us.


73,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW







  







On Jul 26, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka  wrote:

Did you hear anything? I'm wondering the same thing.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Dennis Egan wrote:


I have had a K3/0 for about 5 years now.  In that time, I don't recall ever
doing a Firmware update on it.  Does it require one?

What is the current firmware for the K3/0?

Dennis W1UE

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Firmware

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Hisashi:
Dennis:

As far as I can tell, there have been no firmware updates specifically released 
for the K3/0 or the K3/I0-mini on the Elecraft website. 

In the “Firmware and Software” page 
(http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm 
), there aren’t 
any firmware packages specifically identified for the K3/0 and K3/0-Mini.

In the Manuals and Downloads page 
(http://www.elecraft.com/K2_Manual_Download_Page.htm 
) there is a “K3-Remote” 
selection:

-The latest K3-Remote Owners Manual (PDF) was released on 3 APR 14 
(http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20Remote%20Owner's%20Manual%20%20Rev%20D.pdf 
)

-The manual (Page 22) makes clear that the K3 Utility is compatible with the 
K3/0 and K3/0-Mini:

"From time to time, new features may be made available to K3/0, K3/0-Mini and 
K3 owners via firmware upgrades that you can download and install. Please visit 
the Elecraft K3 software page (www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm) to obtain 
our free firmware download application, the K3 Utility. This program runs on 
PCs, Macs, and Linux platforms.”



The document on page 22 also explains how to determine the unit’s firmware and 
serial number:

"Use the K3/0, K3/0-Mini or K3 CONFIG menu’s FW REVS menu entry to determine 
your firmware revision. The serial number of your K3/0, K3/0-Mini or K3, if 
needed, can be obtained using the SER NUM menu entry. This is the serial number 
of the K3/0, K3/0-Mini or K3 at the control site. It is not the serial number 
of the equipment used at the remote site.”

By “remote site” this is defined as the K3 that the K3/0 or K3/0-Mini is 
connected and the “control site” is where the operator is located (K3/0 and 
K3/0-mini). See “List of Terms” on page 4 of the “K3-Remote Owners Manual.”

Since the “K3-Remote Manual” is now over four years old and an updated document 
has not been released, it would also seem that the firmware installed on the 
K3/0-Remote devices hasn't been updated.  

That said, the manual does not clearly state whether a separate firmware 
package is used by the K3/0 and K3/0-Mini versus the K3/K3S.  The wording could 
be interpreted to suggest that the same firmware package is used for both the 
“Remote” and “Control” devices.  Perhaps Wayne, N6KR or Don, W3FPR can clarify 
this for us.


73,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW







 





> On Jul 26, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka  wrote:
> 
> Did you hear anything? I'm wondering the same thing.
> 
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Dennis Egan wrote:
> 
>> I have had a K3/0 for about 5 years now.  In that time, I don't recall ever
>> doing a Firmware update on it.  Does it require one?
>> 
>> What is the current firmware for the K3/0?
>> 
>> Dennis W1UE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Firmware

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

Did you hear anything? I'm wondering the same thing.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, Dennis Egan wrote:


I have had a K3/0 for about 5 years now.  In that time, I don't recall ever
doing a Firmware update on it.  Does it require one?

What is the current firmware for the K3/0?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-0-mini / K3 dilemma

[Mark Goldberg]

Not knowing much about the protocol Elecraft / Microbit uses, or the IT
staff at the facility, I have doubts about what is being done to figure out
what the problem is. There are tools, such as Wireshark to look at the
packets as they flow through or don't flow through the network. You don't
have to guess. It is likely that some firewall is blocking the packets,
either outgoing or returning. Firewall rules may need to be set up or
changed. Microbit looks like it requires port forwarding for ports
13000-13002 and that must be done in any routers in the way. If they are
doing double NAT on two routers, both will have to get port forwarding set
up. A good IT person should be able to figure this out with the right tools.

All that being said, I don't like port forwarding. I created an incoming
VPN that can be connected to from outside my network using OpenVPN. There
are issues with various firewalls letting the VPN through but if they
connect, the remote device looks like it is on the local network and
everything works, and is encrypted end to end. That is not easy to set up
though.

73,

Mark
W7MLG


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:18 AM, John P. Cummins, Sr.  wrote:

> I have been working with a retired doctor ham friend of mine who has moved
> into an assisted living facility.  He has been licensed and active for more
> than 40 years.
>
> He wanted to be able to use his K3 remotely and I had helped another
> friend of mine who is blind and is also a long time active ham get back on
> the air from a condo using the Kenwood TS480SAT -Remoterig RRC1258set
> implementation. This approach has worked for nearly 2 years without a hitch.
>
> I suggested to my doctor friend that we should test whether it would be
> possible to operate remotely from within the large facility where he
> lived.  So we met with the IT staff there and they had no issues and showed
> that his apartment had internet already installed. Before we ordered any
> equipment I borrowed the TS450SAT control head and Remoterig
> RRC1258-control and tested from his apartment at the assisted living
> facility and it worked perfectly.
>
> On the strength of the testing we ordered the K3-0-mini/K3 Twin package
> from Elecraft.  After getting over the shorted cable that goes to the ACC
> jack on the K3 and a dead power supply for the mini I successfully tested
> on my LAN and also from several other remote locations.  We then
> unsuccessfully attempted to operate from the assisted living facility.
>
> For more than a month now we have been communicating with Microbit and
> Elecraft K3 support trying to figure out what the problem is.  Additional
> tests with the TS-450SAT continue to operate perfectly from the facility
> and testing the K3-0-mini from several other sites out side of the assisted
> living facility also work perfectly.
>
> Working with the IT staff at the facility we are convinced that there is a
> difference in the packets being generated by the Elecraft and the Kenwood
> but I have not been able find any documentation to help identify that
> difference.  We feel certain that the internet server at the facility is
> finding something suspicious in the Elecraft packets that are not present
> in the Kenwood packets.
>
> Has anyone else run across something like this?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-0-mini / K3 dilemma

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

Another idea is to check the port settings on the router to ensure the port 
that Elecraft is using is “open”.

> On May 16, 2018, at 5:57 AM, rich hurd WC3T  wrote:
> 
> I'm just spitballing here, but could the net connection there be double
> NATted so that the rig can't see the packets returning (since they have a
> different address?)
> 
> Packets are packets.  I had this problem - loss of connectivity - albeit
> with a media server in my house that I wanted to be able to hook to
> remotely.   I called my ISP who pinky swore that they were not double
> NATting the address.  I did some digging and logged into my cable modem and
> sure enough, NAT was turned on (which meant there was one translation in my
> router, and one more in the modem.)  Double NAT. Turned it off in the modem
> and bingo, the server was visible to the world.
> 
> I'm hesitant to tender this solution, mindful of the old saw that "if the
> only tool you have is a hammer, every job looks like a nail."   But at
> least it's something you can eliminate and it might be good for thought.
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 07:18 John P. Cummins, Sr. 
> wrote:
> 
>> I have been working with a retired doctor ham friend of mine who has
>> moved into an assisted living facility.  He has been licensed and active
>> for more than 40 years.
>> 
>> He wanted to be able to use his K3 remotely and I had helped another
>> friend of mine who is blind and is also a long time active ham get back
>> on the air from a condo using the Kenwood TS480SAT -Remoterig RRC1258set
>> implementation. This approach has worked for nearly 2 years without a
>> hitch.
>> 
>> I suggested to my doctor friend that we should test whether it would be
>> possible to operate remotely from within the large facility where he
>> lived.  So we met with the IT staff there and they had no issues and
>> showed that his apartment had internet already installed. Before we
>> ordered any equipment I borrowed the TS450SAT control head and Remoterig
>> RRC1258-control and tested from his apartment at the assisted living
>> facility and it worked perfectly.
>> 
>> On the strength of the testing we ordered the K3-0-mini/K3 Twin package
>> from Elecraft.  After getting over the shorted cable that goes to the
>> ACC jack on the K3 and a dead power supply for the mini I successfully
>> tested on my LAN and also from several other remote locations.  We then
>> unsuccessfully attempted to operate from the assisted living facility.
>> 
>> For more than a month now we have been communicating with Microbit and
>> Elecraft K3 support trying to figure out what the problem is.
>> Additional tests with the TS-450SAT continue to operate perfectly from
>> the facility and testing the K3-0-mini from several other sites out side
>> of the assisted living facility also work perfectly.
>> 
>> Working with the IT staff at the facility we are convinced that there is
>> a difference in the packets being generated by the Elecraft and the
>> Kenwood but I have not been able find any documentation to help identify
>> that difference.  We feel certain that the internet server at the
>> facility is finding something suspicious in the Elecraft packets that
>> are not present in the Kenwood packets.
>> 
>> Has anyone else run across something like this?
>> 
>> John, AD4S
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-0-mini / K3 dilemma

[rich hurd WC3T]

I'm just spitballing here, but could the net connection there be double
NATted so that the rig can't see the packets returning (since they have a
different address?)

Packets are packets.  I had this problem - loss of connectivity - albeit
with a media server in my house that I wanted to be able to hook to
remotely.   I called my ISP who pinky swore that they were not double
NATting the address.  I did some digging and logged into my cable modem and
sure enough, NAT was turned on (which meant there was one translation in my
router, and one more in the modem.)  Double NAT. Turned it off in the modem
and bingo, the server was visible to the world.

I'm hesitant to tender this solution, mindful of the old saw that "if the
only tool you have is a hammer, every job looks like a nail."   But at
least it's something you can eliminate and it might be good for thought.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 07:18 John P. Cummins, Sr. 
wrote:

> I have been working with a retired doctor ham friend of mine who has
> moved into an assisted living facility.  He has been licensed and active
> for more than 40 years.
>
> He wanted to be able to use his K3 remotely and I had helped another
> friend of mine who is blind and is also a long time active ham get back
> on the air from a condo using the Kenwood TS480SAT -Remoterig RRC1258set
> implementation. This approach has worked for nearly 2 years without a
> hitch.
>
> I suggested to my doctor friend that we should test whether it would be
> possible to operate remotely from within the large facility where he
> lived.  So we met with the IT staff there and they had no issues and
> showed that his apartment had internet already installed. Before we
> ordered any equipment I borrowed the TS450SAT control head and Remoterig
> RRC1258-control and tested from his apartment at the assisted living
> facility and it worked perfectly.
>
> On the strength of the testing we ordered the K3-0-mini/K3 Twin package
> from Elecraft.  After getting over the shorted cable that goes to the
> ACC jack on the K3 and a dead power supply for the mini I successfully
> tested on my LAN and also from several other remote locations.  We then
> unsuccessfully attempted to operate from the assisted living facility.
>
> For more than a month now we have been communicating with Microbit and
> Elecraft K3 support trying to figure out what the problem is.
> Additional tests with the TS-450SAT continue to operate perfectly from
> the facility and testing the K3-0-mini from several other sites out side
> of the assisted living facility also work perfectly.
>
> Working with the IT staff at the facility we are convinced that there is
> a difference in the packets being generated by the Elecraft and the
> Kenwood but I have not been able find any documentation to help identify
> that difference.  We feel certain that the internet server at the
> facility is finding something suspicious in the Elecraft packets that
> are not present in the Kenwood packets.
>
> Has anyone else run across something like this?
>
> John, AD4S
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 TO K3 NOT WORKING?

[Fred Jensen]

When you power your K3/0 down, does the remote K3 turn all the way off 
[i.e. go totally dark]?


Who is beeping -- K3/0 or RRC?  Control-end or remote-end?

Does it do this *every* time [i.e. totally repeatable]?

Is your control path *really* "through the Internet ... IAW does your 
remote-end RRC have an IP address outside the sub-net the control-end 
RRC is on? ... or are they both DHCP-assigned by your router?


The control-end RRC will beep at you [out the SP jack to whatever is 
plugged into it] if the remote-end RRC/K3 is already on.  It's a busy 
signal to another user.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
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Washoe County

On 9/23/2017 5:58 AM, Waynetheking wrote:

Having Trouble with my K3/0 Remote Station.

For the last week 9/18 thru 19/23 I turn on the supply and then the K3/0 and
the remote station comes up and plays as it should. Later in the day when I
shut it down during the day it will not come back up and all I get is a
bunch of beeps.

This happens each morning. On Friday the 22nd I turned it on at 5 AM and 5
off at 5 PM.
When I tried to recycle the K3/0 to turn on the remote it would not
initialize and would just beep at me.

This is all be done in my shack at home but via the internet thru a router.
The router can see both of the RRC-1258 boxes and IP addresses which are
good with the software, Microbit Software manager.


I’m at a loss and can’t figure out what is causing it not to work when it
works well in the morning. I can shut it down and back up in the morning but
after an hour and more it will not start up again. Just beeps. Could it a
cable?

I had Friend stop over with his K3/0 mini head and that did not work either.
I changed the K3 remote radio with another K3 radio and that did not solve
the problem.

Any Ideas would be a big help.

73, Wayne N2WK



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 TO K3 NOT WORKING?

[Don Wilhelm]

Wayne,

That sounds like a "flaky" internet connection may be your problem.
Talk to your ISP support people - it may take 2nd or 3rd level techs to 
get to the bottom of it.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/23/2017 8:58 AM, Waynetheking wrote:

Having Trouble with my K3/0 Remote Station.

For the last week 9/18 thru 19/23 I turn on the supply and then the K3/0 and
the remote station comes up and plays as it should. Later in the day when I
shut it down during the day it will not come back up and all I get is a
bunch of beeps.

This happens each morning. On Friday the 22nd I turned it on at 5 AM and 5
off at 5 PM.
When I tried to recycle the K3/0 to turn on the remote it would not
initialize and would just beep at me.

This is all be done in my shack at home but via the internet thru a router.
The router can see both of the RRC-1258 boxes and IP addresses which are
good with the software, Microbit Software manager.


I’m at a loss and can’t figure out what is causing it not to work when it
works well in the morning. I can shut it down and back up in the morning but
after an hour and more it will not start up again. Just beeps. Could it a
cable?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and RemoteRig RRC-1258MkII Control Unit FOR SALE

[mike]

SOLD  73  ..mike  AI6II



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[dgb]

I took a 1.5 x 1.5 x 4" scrap piece of structural foam and cut a small 
vee longitudinally in it for the bail to rest in. I found that height 
was just about right, just below the center of gravity, for it not to 
easily tip over on it's face.


Works great!

73 Dwight NS9I



On 5/22/2017 11:49 AM, Mike Zak wrote:

I’ve searched through the archives and found nothing, time to seek the wisdom 
of crowds.

I use a K3/0-Mini and the ergonomics are a challenge.  Because of the design, 
its center of gravity, and the deployment of the bail, the front panel lies far 
too flat for me.  This makes it hard to adjust settings, and also provides a 
challenge in reading the display.  I prop it up on my station table with a 
jerry-built solution but would love something more stable.  In 2014 these 
issues were raised by DH8BQA but I was unable to find any suggestions of 
remedies.  Has anyone come up with a solution for this?  I wish I had my K3/0 
back, but I sold it and it’s gone.

TU,

Mike, W1MU
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 control not working with DXLap or N1MM

[John Langdon]

Jeff,

I can connect the the K3 at the remote transmit site or via local LAN - only
difference is the "SIP CONTACT" address in "RADIO SETTINGS" on the RRC
Control. I use DHCP for the control RRC when on the LAN.

Can you connect to the RRC radio unit via a browser interface from either
the remote location or over the local LAN?  That is the first step.

73 John N5CQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff
Griffin
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 6:15 PM
To: 'iain macdonnell - N6ML' <a...@dseven.org>
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 control not working with DXLap or N1MM

I'm going to bring the control setup to the radio site when I head up there
and work it out on the LAN. I'm starting to think the K3/0 is broke.
  Would anyone using the K3/0 with control s/w like to share their K3/0
config settings? Also maybe I'm having a senior moment, I do connect the
K3/0 to my laptop not the RRC's USB port right?

73 Jeff kb2m

-Original Message-
From: dse...@dseven.org [mailto:dse...@dseven.org] On Behalf Of iain
macdonnell - N6ML
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:08 PM
To: Jeff Griffin
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 control not working with DXLap or N1MM

I don't actually have a K3/0-mini (I have the full-size K3/0), but I do
believe that you should be able to connect to it with the K3 Utility -
that's how you would update its firmware.

It may be that something has failed inside he K3/0-mini ... or something
software in Windows regarding COM ports. If you have access to another PC,
you might try the K3 Utility there.

73,

~iain / N6ML




On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Jeff Griffin <k...@arrl.net> wrote:
> I just got back down here where the K3/0 is located. So Iain, your 
> saying I should be able to talk to the K3/0 with the K3 utility at the
control site?
> I just tried it and no, it doesn't see it on either of the two defined 
> comports. I even brought a second USB cable to use between the laptop 
> and K3/0. No Joy.
>
> This worked for over a year, and just stopped. No changes were made to 
> any of the systems
>
>
>
> Jeff, can the K3 Utility talk to your K3/0-mini (when no other
>
> software is attempting to do so)? That will tell you if the problem is
>
> with the COM port plumbing or the DXLab Suite config.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 control not working with DXLap or N1MM

[Jeff Griffin]

I'm going to bring the control setup to the radio site when I head up there and 
work it out on the LAN. I'm starting to think the K3/0 is broke.
  Would anyone using the K3/0 with control s/w like to share their K3/0 config 
settings? Also maybe I'm having a senior moment, I do connect the K3/0 to my 
laptop not the RRC's USB port right?

73 Jeff kb2m

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From: dse...@dseven.org [mailto:dse...@dseven.org] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell 
- N6ML
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 7:08 PM
To: Jeff Griffin
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 control not working with DXLap or N1MM

I don't actually have a K3/0-mini (I have the full-size K3/0), but I do believe 
that you should be able to connect to it with the K3 Utility - that's how you 
would update its firmware.

It may be that something has failed inside he K3/0-mini ... or something 
software in Windows regarding COM ports. If you have access to another PC, you 
might try the K3 Utility there.

73,

~iain / N6ML




On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Jeff Griffin <k...@arrl.net> wrote:
> I just got back down here where the K3/0 is located. So Iain, your 
> saying I should be able to talk to the K3/0 with the K3 utility at the 
> control site?
> I just tried it and no, it doesn't see it on either of the two defined 
> comports. I even brought a second USB cable to use between the laptop 
> and K3/0. No Joy.
>
> This worked for over a year, and just stopped. No changes were made to 
> any of the systems
>
>
>
> Jeff, can the K3 Utility talk to your K3/0-mini (when no other
>
> software is attempting to do so)? That will tell you if the problem is
>
> with the COM port plumbing or the DXLab Suite config.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 control not working with DXLap or N1MM

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

I don't actually have a K3/0-mini (I have the full-size K3/0), but I
do believe that you should be able to connect to it with the K3
Utility - that's how you would update its firmware.

It may be that something has failed inside he K3/0-mini ... or
something software in Windows regarding COM ports. If you have access
to another PC, you might try the K3 Utility there.

73,

~iain / N6ML




On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Jeff Griffin  wrote:
> I just got back down here where the K3/0 is located. So Iain, your saying I
> should be able to talk to the K3/0 with the K3 utility at the control site?
> I just tried it and no, it doesn't see it on either of the two defined
> comports. I even brought a second USB cable to use between the laptop and
> K3/0. No Joy.
>
> This worked for over a year, and just stopped. No changes were made to any
> of the systems
>
>
>
> Jeff, can the K3 Utility talk to your K3/0-mini (when no other
>
> software is attempting to do so)? That will tell you if the problem is
>
> with the COM port plumbing or the DXLab Suite config.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
>
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini usb port

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> How many DE-9 connectors are there on your USB to serial adapter?

Pretty sure that would be zero, since it's inside the K3/0-mini.


> If only one (which is normal), then only one COM port should be defined.
> That fact that you find 2 COM ports in device manager is cause for question
> unless you have an adapter with 2 physical serial ports.

It's normal for the K3/0-mini to present two virtual COM ports.

Jeff, can the K3 Utility talk to your K3/0-mini (when no other
software is attempting to do so)? That will tell you if the problem is
with the COM port plumbing or the DXLab Suite config.

73,

~iain / N6ML



> On 9/3/2016 10:03 AM, Jeff Griffin wrote:
>>
>>   I'm at FTDI 2.12.18.0,
>> I think this is the right level. There are no errors reported in any of
>> the
>> comport properties menu's. When I plug the USB cable in, com ports 5 and 6
>> appear in the device manager list. All looks normal. My DXLab commander
>> setup is. K3, com 5(I also tried 6),38400{same as K3/0),8,N,2,Y,Y.
>> interrogate  and enable are checked.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas, and can someone verify what level FTDI driver there
>> using that works. Thanks.
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini usb port

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeff,

How many DE-9 connectors are there on your USB to serial adapter?
If only one (which is normal), then only one COM port should be defined.
That fact that you find 2 COM ports in device manager is cause for 
question unless you have an adapter with 2 physical serial ports.


Don W3FPR

On 9/3/2016 10:03 AM, Jeff Griffin wrote:

  I'm at FTDI 2.12.18.0,
I think this is the right level. There are no errors reported in any of the
comport properties menu's. When I plug the USB cable in, com ports 5 and 6
appear in the device manager list. All looks normal. My DXLab commander
setup is. K3, com 5(I also tried 6),38400{same as K3/0),8,N,2,Y,Y.
interrogate  and enable are checked.

Anyone have any ideas, and can someone verify what level FTDI driver there
using that works. Thanks.




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3/0] Remoterig sidetone way too loud

[Mitch Wolfson , DJØQN / K7DX]

Fred,

Go into the RRC's web menus and click on "keyer settings", then go to 
"side tone" and adjust the db down to an acceptable level.


73,
Mitch

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On 11.03.2016 11:27, Cady, Fred wrote:

In preparation for a trip I have the Remoterig boxes and a K3/0 Mini and K3 
working fine.  Problem is the sidetone is way too loud.  The K3's monitor level 
is 0 and the sidetone configuration in the control Remoterig is also 0 dB.  
Anybody have any ideas?

Cheers,

73,

Fred KE7X

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3/0] Remoterig sidetone way too loud

[Robert Bajuk]

Hi Fred,

Change your RRC Control setting under Keyer settings
Side tone -db [50-0]:
Set it to more reasonable value, 0 is the loudest, value is in "- db" :-)

Set it to 45 or 50 and you must see the difference

Hope it helps

73 Robert, S57AW



On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Cady, Fred  wrote:

> In preparation for a trip I have the Remoterig boxes and a K3/0 Mini and
> K3 working fine.  Problem is the sidetone is way too loud.  The K3's
> monitor level is 0 and the sidetone configuration in the control Remoterig
> is also 0 dB.  Anybody have any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
>
> 73,
>
> Fred KE7X
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 - How to enable left side mic?

[Joe]

Hello Jim,

My post was regarding the K3/0 and you have the Mini.  It looks like 
they are two different animals and the mike connection is different.


73, Joe, K1ike

On 3/7/2016 3:45 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

To All,
I sent a support request to Elecraft regarding my issue and they replied
with the following:


 Start E-Mail Here ===
Hi Jim,

>From what you indicated, your Bias is turned ON for the MH2. If you are
using headsets which require Bias, this is important.

You can either use VOX or connect a footswitch to the back of the Mini
(PTT) to place the Mini in transmit. The XMIT/tune button can not be used
for PTT.

The microphone should have a mono 3.5 mm plug. That would go into the MIC
jack on the side of the Mini.

Let me know if this helps.

73,




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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 - How to enable left side mic?

[jlbates4]

To All,
I sent a support request to Elecraft regarding my issue and they replied
with the following:


 Start E-Mail Here ===
Hi Jim,

>From what you indicated, your Bias is turned ON for the MH2. If you are
using headsets which require Bias, this is important.

You can either use VOX or connect a footswitch to the back of the Mini
(PTT) to place the Mini in transmit. The XMIT/tune button can not be used
for PTT.

The microphone should have a mono 3.5 mm plug. That would go into the MIC
jack on the side of the Mini.

Let me know if this helps.

73,

-- 
--
Craig Smith W6WL
Elecraft Customer Support
831-763-4211 x 174
--
 End E-Mail Here ===


I wired up a PTT using the K3/0-Mini "PTT" jack on the rear; plugged my
headset/mic into the left MIC/SPKR jacks and it WORKED...

Apparently, you MUST use the hardline PTT for the K3/0-Mini to accept MIC
input from the left side jacks.  Pressing the XMIT button and using CAT
control did NOT enable the headset mic to work...

The question remains - why would the design require a dedicated PTT for
headset use?  I thought plugging the headset into the left MIC jack
"disabled" the front panel MIC (8 pin) jack...

Anyway, I did want to share with the the group.

73 de K8OI

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> The manual for the K3/0 says:
> "It uses its internal speaker and front headphone jack for receive
> audio, and its front
> microphone connector for your mic input."
>
> In other words you need to use the front mike connector on the K3/0.
> The mike connector on the back of the K3/0 is actually an output to the
> RemoteRig box.  This is different than the back of your K3/10 K3/100
> radio, where it is an input.  You need the special E85051 (or homemade
> equivalent) cable that connects the K3/0 "SPKRS" and "PTT IN" to the
> RRC1258 "AUX/MIC" jack. BTW, the "PTT IN" on the K3/0 is actually a PTT
> output from the K3/0 to the RRC1258.
>
> You may be able to make a direct connection to the RRC1258 "AUX/MIC" for
> your headset.  I've never done this, but it may be possible.
>
> The HM2 mike is an Electret that needs bias on.  Both Heils are probably
> Dynamic and need bias off.  You'll have to check the Heil literature. I
> don't know how bias is controlled in the K3/0 so I don't know how bias
> on/off woks at the K3/0 but it's worth mentioning as a possible problem.
>
> If you are using the E850511 that came from Elecraft, there is a
> possibility of a "digital noise" problem.  The pairs used for mike audio
> are split between two pairs, causing an imbalance.  This may or may not
> show up in your K3/0.
>
> There is also a small noise problem in the E980207 speaker cable that
> goes between the K3/0 and the RRC1258.  I fixed that with isolation
> transformers.
>
> 73, Joe, K1ike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 - How to enable left side mic?

[JOE]

The manual for the K3/0 says:
"It uses its internal speaker and front headphone jack for receive 
audio, and its front

microphone connector for your mic input."

In other words you need to use the front mike connector on the K3/0.  
The mike connector on the back of the K3/0 is actually an output to the 
RemoteRig box.  This is different than the back of your K3/10 K3/100 
radio, where it is an input.  You need the special E85051 (or homemade 
equivalent) cable that connects the K3/0 "SPKRS" and "PTT IN" to the 
RRC1258 "AUX/MIC" jack. BTW, the "PTT IN" on the K3/0 is actually a PTT 
output from the K3/0 to the RRC1258.


You may be able to make a direct connection to the RRC1258 "AUX/MIC" for 
your headset.  I've never done this, but it may be possible.


The HM2 mike is an Electret that needs bias on.  Both Heils are probably 
Dynamic and need bias off.  You'll have to check the Heil literature. I 
don't know how bias is controlled in the K3/0 so I don't know how bias 
on/off woks at the K3/0 but it's worth mentioning as a possible problem.


If you are using the E850511 that came from Elecraft, there is a 
possibility of a "digital noise" problem.  The pairs used for mike audio 
are split between two pairs, causing an imbalance.  This may or may not 
show up in your K3/0.


There is also a small noise problem in the E980207 speaker cable that 
goes between the K3/0 and the RRC1258.  I fixed that with isolation 
transformers.


73, Joe, K1ike

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 - How to enable left side mic?

[Oliver Dröse]

Jim,

the menu settings RF.L, RF.H, etc. only effect the remote K3, *not* the 
mini! So do not change them, they need to be configured as needed on the 
remote side.


For the mini there's no selection. The front panel mic socket is enabled 
as long as you do not plug-in anything into the left mic socket. As soon 
as you do it will disable the front panel socket and take audio from the 
3,5 mm plug.


Internal to the K3/0 mini is a jumper that sets mic bias for the 3,5 mm 
socket. Maybe you need to check if it is set accordingly. Mine was, I 
had to disable it to allow me using my non-electret mic there.


73, Olli - DH8BQA

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Am 27.02.2016 um 20:16 schrieb jlbates4:

I'm beyond frustrated...

Situation:  I've got a K3/0 attached to Remote Rig boxes to my K3 in the
shack.  MH2 mike works perfectly.  Headset plugged into the left SPKR jack
works fine.

No matter what I do, I can NOT get any audio transmitted from the left MIC
connector!

I've tried using 2 types of heil headsets - iC & HC4/5; I've detached the
MH2 mike and tried it; I've removed the RRC cable and configured the mic
input to RF.L, RF.H, RP.L, RP.H, Line In all to no avail!

Can anybody please help me with a suggestion?

Jim - K8OI



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 - How to enable left side mic?

[jlbates4]

Sorry - I have a K3/Mini not a K3/0...



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 PSK distortion

[DGB]

Got it Don, yes the paper was written by Brandon.

thanks much and HNY to you.

73 Dwight NS9I

On 12/29/2015 6:56 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Dwight,

I don't have experience with Remote Rig, and Brandon's suggestions 
usurp mine.  One thing I know is that if you are using USB mode 
instead of DATA A, you will have to set compression to zero and set 
the TX EQ to flat.  Failure to do that will result in distorted data 
transmissions.


73 es HNY,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2015 7:45 PM, DGB wrote:
Thanks foTalked with Elecraft and they sent me a paper on setting up 
the different modes for the K3/0. One thing I was doing wrong was 
using Data A when they recommend USB. Seems to be okay now with some 
more signal reports.


HNY to all 73 de NS9I Dwight

On 12/29/2015 5:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Dwight,

You have the audio level set correctly if you are getting 4 bars on 
the ALC meter with the 5th one flickering at times.
Are you using DATA A mode?  If you are using USB mode, you must 
manually turn off compression and set the equalizer flat.  Using 
DATA A does that automatically.
Another thing to consider is that the soundcard output of the laptop 
may be distorted.  You might try an external soundcard.
Do you have distortion in SSB voice operation?  If no distortion in 
SSB, there is likely nothing wrong with the K3.


Those are the only things I can think of at the moment - unless the 
problem is with the receiving station.
One nice thing about remote operation (if the transmitter is really 
a good distance from your control position), you can use another 
receiver and computer to monitor your data mode signals yourself.  A 
modest antenna should do OK for receiving your signal so you may be 
able to 'sneak it' by the HOA or your building manager.  Think 
stealth antennas for portable work.


73,
Don W3FPR






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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 PSK distortion

[DGB]

Thanks foTalked with Elecraft and they sent me a paper on setting up the 
different modes for the K3/0. One thing I was doing wrong was using Data 
A when they recommend USB. Seems to be okay now with some more signal 
reports.


HNY to all 73 de NS9I Dwight

On 12/29/2015 5:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Dwight,

You have the audio level set correctly if you are getting 4 bars on 
the ALC meter with the 5th one flickering at times.
Are you using DATA A mode?  If you are using USB mode, you must 
manually turn off compression and set the equalizer flat.  Using DATA 
A does that automatically.
Another thing to consider is that the soundcard output of the laptop 
may be distorted.  You might try an external soundcard.
Do you have distortion in SSB voice operation?  If no distortion in 
SSB, there is likely nothing wrong with the K3.


Those are the only things I can think of at the moment - unless the 
problem is with the receiving station.
One nice thing about remote operation (if the transmitter is really a 
good distance from your control position), you can use another 
receiver and computer to monitor your data mode signals yourself.  A 
modest antenna should do OK for receiving your signal so you may be 
able to 'sneak it' by the HOA or your building manager.  Think stealth 
antennas for portable work.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2015 4:37 PM, DGB wrote:

I'm using a new K3/0 mini and the remoteRig boxes to remote my K3.

I'm getting reports of my PSK looking like I'm over driving it.

I have my laptop soundcard level set down to 10 as recommended by 
Brandon. When xmtg I set the ALC level to 4 with 5th flickering or 
even just 4. If I go any lower I get no output.








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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 PSK distortion

[Don Wilhelm]

Dwight,

I don't have experience with Remote Rig, and Brandon's suggestions usurp 
mine.  One thing I know is that if you are using USB mode instead of 
DATA A, you will have to set compression to zero and set the TX EQ to 
flat.  Failure to do that will result in distorted data transmissions.


73 es HNY,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2015 7:45 PM, DGB wrote:
Thanks foTalked with Elecraft and they sent me a paper on setting up 
the different modes for the K3/0. One thing I was doing wrong was 
using Data A when they recommend USB. Seems to be okay now with some 
more signal reports.


HNY to all 73 de NS9I Dwight

On 12/29/2015 5:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Dwight,

You have the audio level set correctly if you are getting 4 bars on 
the ALC meter with the 5th one flickering at times.
Are you using DATA A mode?  If you are using USB mode, you must 
manually turn off compression and set the equalizer flat.  Using DATA 
A does that automatically.
Another thing to consider is that the soundcard output of the laptop 
may be distorted.  You might try an external soundcard.
Do you have distortion in SSB voice operation?  If no distortion in 
SSB, there is likely nothing wrong with the K3.


Those are the only things I can think of at the moment - unless the 
problem is with the receiving station.
One nice thing about remote operation (if the transmitter is really a 
good distance from your control position), you can use another 
receiver and computer to monitor your data mode signals yourself.  A 
modest antenna should do OK for receiving your signal so you may be 
able to 'sneak it' by the HOA or your building manager.  Think 
stealth antennas for portable work.


73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 PSK distortion

[Don Wilhelm]

Dwight,

You have the audio level set correctly if you are getting 4 bars on the 
ALC meter with the 5th one flickering at times.
Are you using DATA A mode?  If you are using USB mode, you must manually 
turn off compression and set the equalizer flat.  Using DATA A does that 
automatically.
Another thing to consider is that the soundcard output of the laptop may 
be distorted.  You might try an external soundcard.
Do you have distortion in SSB voice operation?  If no distortion in SSB, 
there is likely nothing wrong with the K3.


Those are the only things I can think of at the moment - unless the 
problem is with the receiving station.
One nice thing about remote operation (if the transmitter is really a 
good distance from your control position), you can use another receiver 
and computer to monitor your data mode signals yourself.  A modest 
antenna should do OK for receiving your signal so you may be able to 
'sneak it' by the HOA or your building manager.  Think stealth antennas 
for portable work.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2015 4:37 PM, DGB wrote:

I'm using a new K3/0 mini and the remoteRig boxes to remote my K3.

I'm getting reports of my PSK looking like I'm over driving it.

I have my laptop soundcard level set down to 10 as recommended by 
Brandon. When xmtg I set the ALC level to 4 with 5th flickering or 
even just 4. If I go any lower I get no output.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-MINI and windows 10

[Ian]

Usually drivers like to be installed as admin - right-click on the file and
select that option.  FTDI just released an update at
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

73, Ian N8IK 


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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian
D. Comer
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:21
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0-MINI and windows 10

Does anyone have any experience installing the FTDI  drivers on windows 10
for the K3/0 mini. Windows 10 does not appear to install them automatically.
I cannot find instructions on the web site.

 

Thanks 73

 

Brian KF6C. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

While we appreciate the interest in additional forums, we can not watch them all 
and only only infrequently read all the ones on Yahoo. If there end up lists for 
every product we make, it will quickly be impossible for us to participate in 
all of them.


If you have a question on using our products, please place it here first (or at 
least in duplicate to any other forum) as we and our close to 5000 list readers 
are most likely to have a quick answer for you :-)  This list acts as our 
central clearing house for questions and company announcements.


73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/11/2015 7:42 PM, James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft wrote:

To All,

I know the main advantage of having one central list (this one) is that it is 
monitored by Elecraft, and answers are provided by them, as well as other 
knowledgeable individuals on the forum.

I have moderated the elecraft...@yahoogroups.com  for some time (Waaay before 
having a K3), and fortunately, Elecraft monitors that list as well.

Since there appears to be a need, I have created elecraft_k...@yahoogroups.com 
for anyone who would like to have a separate forum.  I would certainly welcome 
Elecraft to participate, as well as RemoteRig and Remote hams.

I want to make it clear that I do not want to divide this forum, just provide a 
space where those who have a particular interest in Remote operating can gather.

I am currently borrowing a K3/0 in anticipation of one I have on order, and purchased 
RemoteRig when I purchased my K3.  All I can say is that it was indeed fortunate that I 
had someone who has set up a number of remote stations with RemoteRig to guide me through 
the process.  It is not "a walk in the park" for someone who has not done it 
before.  Hopefully this new forum can help.

David from Elecraft did send me a separate communication dated June 2015 (K3 
and K3S Remote System FAQ) on remote operating, and I've found it very helpful.

If anyone cares to join the list, elecraft_k3-0-subscr...@yahoogroups.com should do it, 
but going to http://groups.yahoo.com and searching for Elecraft_K3-0 would be best. It 
will be moderated.  Please place your callsign in the "why you want to join this 
group" for quick approval.

’73 de JIM N2ZZ




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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum

[James Beitchman]

Eric, 

 

I am pleased to see this topic raised, 

 

I was one of the first users of the K3/0 mini with a long back-ordered unit.
For me the set-up process was lengthy (5 weeks working at two sites 100
miles apart), painful, educational and eventually very successful. I am
delighted to be able to experience excellent multi-mode ham radio from my
Manhattan basement office with my K3/100 more than 100 miles from here!  To
get the system going (every aspect of my current set up is now carefully
documented), required numerous communications with Brandon by e-mail and
phone (he was very patient!) and directly with RemoteRig in Sweden - even
two phone calls.   I can easily identify why this was so difficult.  The
terse manual from Elecraft and the huge document from RemoteRig were written
by and for people who have Internet networking familiarity and experience.
Though I am a technical professional, I had no such experience -
understanding and using DDNS services, SIP, port forwarding, ports in the
DMZ, etc was a new challenge.  The manuals from either provider did not
really help with the fundamentals of Internet networking set-up for a first
time user. 

 

While I fully agree with the respondents who have suggested that a single
source - Elecraft - should provide a single manual that addresses both
RemoteRig and K3/0 set up and operational issues, some way must be found to
address the market/users that do not have familiarity with Internet
networking in general. Maybe there is some already existing primmer that you
could supply with the equipment or the manual could contain a chapter with
the basic networking information. I suspect that such information would
reduce Brandon's e-mail by a huge amount. Your job is not primarily to
educate users on Internet networking, but I think there is a large community
of potential K3/0 owners/users who would benefit from such basic
information; it would rebound to Elecraft's benefit, I'm sure.

 

73 from a happy K3/0 mini to K3/100 user.

 

Buzz 

W3EMD 

 

 

 

 

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 17:00:12 -0700

From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" < >

To: jlbates4 <jlbat...@gmail.com>

Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

Message-ID: <f4e8f956-89aa-49ff-8946-11ecce285...@elecraft.com>

Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=us-ascii

 

Hi Jim,

 

Drop bran...@elecraft.com an email with your K3/0, Remoterig and
remotehams.com questions. He is responsible for supporting these products,
and he also happens to be the author of remonthams.com

 

73,

 

Eric

elecraft.com

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[George K5KG via Elecraft]

K1KNQ and I have recently set up W1YL with a K3/0-Mini using and 
remotehams.com, and the RCForb software.  In this installation, the 
K3/0-Mini is directly connected to a Windows 7 machine via two virtual 
comm ports.


W1YL is able to connect to any number of remote stations using the 
RCForb software, and has been successful in making a number of CW Qsos 
using W8RJ as the remote stn.  In W1YL's case, she is located in an 
apartment with good broadband service, but no way to put up an outside 
antenna, so the remote set up is a good solution for her.


The only documentation that we had available for doing this installation 
was what we found on remotehams.com.  The K3/0-Mini's manual was of 
limited help.  In W1YL's case, she had never used a K3, and was totally 
unfamiliar with how to operate the K3/0-MIni and its many "tiny and 
confusing" controls.  We provided her with copies of some of the more 
relevant pages from a K3 manual, but what really brought her up speed 
were several training sessions on how to connect to a remote station and 
use the K3/0 and its many controls.


It has been an interesting journey.

73, George, K5KG


On 10/11/2015 4:56 PM, Ed Gray W0SD wrote:
The lack of a good manual and no diagram for the K3/0 is 
way..below the normal Elecraft standards.  It is especially bad if 
in addition to remote rig you sometimes want to use the USB cable and 
remote hams.  There just is no documentation as to what is going on!


Ed W0SD

On 10/11/2015 3:30 PM, David Christ wrote:
I don’t know about a separate forum, but I am going to start looking 
at a remote installation for when we move into a retirement community 
and will want to know where the information is to be found.


David K0LUM



On Oct 11, 2015, at 3:16 PM, jlbates4  wrote:

I was wondering why the K3/0 or K3/Remote Ops doesn't have a 
dedicated forum.

Just a thought...

The reason I ask is that I would really like a better manual for the 
K3/0.
I have a lot of questions - simple things, like how do I control the 
LCD
display or adjust the LED brightness?  Is there a "local" menu 
system that

allows for K3/0 configuration?

73 de K8OI






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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[bill NY9H]

that k3/0 implementation with remotehams.com is wonderful and easy .

mini notebook w/ wifi
LOAD CLIENT SOFTWARE
   usb to   k3/0 CABLE

plug in mic or headset DONE


activated the wifi hotspot in my smartphone ...
  and it even works
so far  just ssb.

bill

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Scott,

I chose not to receive postings through my e-mail. I look at the postings on
either:

http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/maillist.html

or

http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/

Obviously those two services do the truncating. I guess I should rephrase my
querie to ask if I'm the only guy not receiving postings through e-mail.

73,
Mike K2MK



Scott Manthe-2 wrote
> It might be something with your client, Mike. I guess is could also be a 
> Windows security "feature." Email addresses are not truncated here with 
> Thunderbird and OSX. The rest of Brandon's email is elecraft.com
> 
> 73,
> Scott N9AA
> 
> 
> On 10/12/15 9:54 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I must be the only person that hasn't figured out how to read e-mail
>> addresses posted on the reflector. Are you aware that they get truncated
>> and/or hidden? It would be very helpful if posters would spell out the
>> e-mail address in a manner similar to this:
>>
>> k2mk at comcast dot not
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike K2MK





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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Scott Manthe]

It might be something with your client, Mike. I guess is could also be a 
Windows security "feature." Email addresses are not truncated here with 
Thunderbird and OSX. The rest of Brandon's email is elecraft.com


73,
Scott N9AA


On 10/12/15 9:54 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:

Hi Eric,

I must be the only person that hasn't figured out how to read e-mail
addresses posted on the reflector. Are you aware that they get truncated
and/or hidden? It would be very helpful if posters would spell out the
e-mail address in a manner similar to this:

k2mk at comcast dot not

73,
Mike K2MK


Hi Jim,

Drop brandon@ an email with your K3/0, Remoterig and remotehams.com
questions. He is responsible for supporting these products, and he also
happens to be the author of remonthams.com

73,

Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Mike K2MK]

Hi Eric,

I must be the only person that hasn't figured out how to read e-mail
addresses posted on the reflector. Are you aware that they get truncated
and/or hidden? It would be very helpful if posters would spell out the
e-mail address in a manner similar to this:

k2mk at comcast dot not

73,
Mike K2MK


Hi Jim,

Drop brandon@ an email with your K3/0, Remoterig and remotehams.com
questions. He is responsible for supporting these products, and he also
happens to be the author of remonthams.com

73,

Eric
elecraft.com



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Don Wilhelm]

Mike,

I don't know what email client you are using, but I am using 
Thunderbird, and that email address in Eric's post came through loud and 
clear - It was even underlined and colored in blue.
Bottom line, that is not being done by the Elecraft reflector - it must 
be something in your email client that is causing the addresses to be 
truncated.
OTOH, I notice you are responding through Nabble -  it may be a 
"feature" of Nabble - I receive my Elecraft posts directly from the 
reflector - mailman.qth.net.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/12/2015 9:54 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:

Hi Eric,

I must be the only person that hasn't figured out how to read e-mail
addresses posted on the reflector. Are you aware that they get truncated
and/or hidden? It would be very helpful if posters would spell out the
e-mail address in a manner similar to this:

k2mk at comcast dot not

73,
Mike K2MK


Hi Jim,

Drop brandon@ an email with your K3/0, Remoterig and remotehams.com
questions. He is responsible for supporting these products, and he also
happens to be the author of remonthams.com




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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Of course, anyone can set up a forum, but every time you do you divide 
the knowledge pool.


On 10/11/2015 3:30 PM, jlbates4 wrote:

The reason I was wondering if we should have a decided Forum/Sub Forum for
this product line:)


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[jlbates4]

​The reason I was wondering if we should have a decided Forum/Sub Forum for
this product line :)

​


> Part of the “confusion” may be due to how different organizations/groups
> utilize the remote capabilities of Elecraft products.  Which areas should
> be the responsibility for documenting which aspect of remote operations?
> For example, do you expect Elecraft or Remote Hams to provide appropriate
> documentation for using the K3/O with a Remote Hams connection?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

To be practical, there just is no way for a maker of transceivers to keep
up with all 3rd party generators of software/hardware.

We depend on Elecraft engineers to be working on Elecraft products.

Also, there is a 22 page manual for K3/0 and the remote protocol for Remote
Rig, which Elecraft sells and supports at:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20Remote%20Owner's%20Manual%20%20Rev%20D.pdf

I would squeeze out of that whatever you can.

Since they sell RRG, they do have to keep up with RRG.

73, Guy K2AV

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 6:30 PM, jlbates4  wrote:

> ​The reason I was wondering if we should have a decided Forum/Sub Forum for
> this product line :)
>
> ​
>
>
> > Part of the “confusion” may be due to how different organizations/groups
> > utilize the remote capabilities of Elecraft products.  Which areas should
> > be the responsibility for documenting which aspect of remote operations?
> > For example, do you expect Elecraft or Remote Hams to provide appropriate
> > documentation for using the K3/O with a Remote Hams connection?
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Ed Gray W0SD]

The lack of a good manual and no diagram for the K3/0 is way..below 
the normal Elecraft standards.  It is especially bad if in addition to 
remote rig you sometimes want to use the USB cable and remote hams.  
There just is no documentation as to what is going on!


Ed W0SD

On 10/11/2015 3:30 PM, David Christ wrote:

I don’t know about a separate forum, but I am going to start looking at a 
remote installation for when we move into a retirement community and will want 
to know where the information is to be found.

David K0LUM



On Oct 11, 2015, at 3:16 PM, jlbates4  wrote:

I was wondering why the K3/0 or K3/Remote Ops doesn't have a dedicated forum.
Just a thought...

The reason I ask is that I would really like a better manual for the K3/0.
I have a lot of questions - simple things, like how do I control the LCD
display or adjust the LED brightness?  Is there a "local" menu system that
allows for K3/0 configuration?

73 de K8OI






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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Barry Baines]

Ed:

Part of the “confusion” may be due to how different organizations/groups 
utilize the remote capabilities of Elecraft products.  Which areas should be 
the responsibility for documenting which aspect of remote operations?  For 
example, do you expect Elecraft or Remote Hams to provide appropriate 
documentation for using the K3/O with a Remote Hams connection?

Second, the K3/O can be ‘connected’ to a K3 through various means.  I would 
suggest since Elecraft offers the Remote Rig hardware as part of their product 
line offerings, their focus should be on getting the Remote Rig hardware 
properly interconnected with the K3 at the radio site as well as the K3/0 at 
the remote site.  This includes proper remote rig configuration, which can at 
times be confusing due in part to network issues. 

In my opinion, Elecraft does a reasonably good job in their brief documentation 
in connecting via Remote Rig. I was able to get it done once I dealt with with 
some network issues.

There is also the question of connecting the K3/0 to a local PC which in turn 
connects to a PC where the K3 itself is located to provide the connection.  I 
don’t know how many people use this approach, but the documentation may indeed 
be in need of improvement.  

What is particularly lacking is understanding more complex setups beyond SSB 
where documentation is needed to explain how to setup digital modes and how to 
use computers at the remote site to do digital modes.  There is also the 
question logging using a computer next to the K3/0 which gets into the question 
of proper com port configuration.  The question of feeding audio and control 
lines to a PC at the remote using the available connection ports off the K3/O 
or the Remote Rig “box” is not intuitive, nor is how best to use the two 
available com ports that can be managed between the remote site and the radio 
site (ham shack where the K3 is located) to feed data.  

Third, we need to remember that the K3/O’s front panel and menus control the K3 
that is connected to the antenna.  When you setup filters, set frequencies, set 
audio levels, etc. on the K3/0, you are directly interacting with the K3 at the 
ham shack.  Even changing the volume level on the K3/0 to make for a more 
pleasant listening experience with the K3/0 internal speaker is in fact also 
changing the audio level of the speaker out of the K3 itself.  That is why I 
always turn off the powered speakers at the K3 so that varying audio levels 
don’t result in loud speaker output at the ham shack where the radio is located.

Fourth, for those of us that use the Remote Rig Hardware, there is a Remote Rig 
forum available through Remote Rig.  There are some issues that more properly 
handled by the Remote Rig support process, such as how to finagle a connection 
through hotel WiFi services where a login is required. In my opinion, Remote 
Rig needs to come up with solutions to these issues, not Elecraft.

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA (ham shack site)

> On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Ed Gray W0SD  wrote:
> 
> The lack of a good manual and no diagram for the K3/0 is way..below the 
> normal Elecraft standards.  It is especially bad if in addition to remote rig 
> you sometimes want to use the USB cable and remote hams.  There just is no 
> documentation as to what is going on!
> 
> Ed W0SD
> 
> On 10/11/2015 3:30 PM, David Christ wrote:
>> I don’t know about a separate forum, but I am going to start looking at a 
>> remote installation for when we move into a retirement community and will 
>> want to know where the information is to be found.
>> 
>> David K0LUM
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2015, at 3:16 PM, jlbates4  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was wondering why the K3/0 or K3/Remote Ops doesn't have a dedicated 
>>> forum.
>>> Just a thought...
>>> 
>>> The reason I ask is that I would really like a better manual for the K3/0.
>>> I have a lot of questions - simple things, like how do I control the LCD
>>> display or adjust the LED brightness?  Is there a "local" menu system that
>>> allows for K3/0 configuration?
>>> 
>>> 73 de K8OI
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[David Christ]

I don’t know about a separate forum, but I am going to start looking at a 
remote installation for when we move into a retirement community and will want 
to know where the information is to be found.

David K0LUM


> On Oct 11, 2015, at 3:16 PM, jlbates4  wrote:
> 
> I was wondering why the K3/0 or K3/Remote Ops doesn't have a dedicated forum. 
> Just a thought...
> 
> The reason I ask is that I would really like a better manual for the K3/0. 
> I have a lot of questions - simple things, like how do I control the LCD
> display or adjust the LED brightness?  Is there a "local" menu system that
> allows for K3/0 configuration?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Phil Wheeler]

You could always start a Yahoo Group with such a 
focus, ala the ones already there for K3/K3s and KX3.


Here having a single email reflector for all 
Elecraft products makes the most sense, IMO. 
Separate ones for each product would be a tad messy.


73, Phil W7OX

On 10/11/15 3:30 PM, jlbates4 wrote:

​The reason I was wondering if we should have a decided Forum/Sub Forum for
this product line :)

​



Part of the “confusion” may be due to how different organizations/groups
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Hi Jim,

Drop bran...@elecraft.com an email with your K3/0, Remoterig and remotehams.com 
questions. He is responsible for supporting these products, and he also happens 
to be the author of remonthams.com

73,

Eric
elecraft.com
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> On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:16 PM, jlbates4  wrote:
> 
> I was wondering why the K3/0 or K3/Remote Ops doesn't have a dedicated forum. 
> Just a thought...
> 
> The reason I ask is that I would really like a better manual for the K3/0. 
> I have a lot of questions - simple things, like how do I control the LCD
> display or adjust the LED brightness?  Is there a "local" menu system that
> allows for K3/0 configuration?
> 
> 73 de K8OI
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Forum?

[Ed Gray W0SD]

I don't want another forum I just want decent documentation on the K3/0 
mini in regards to the remotehams software. http://www.remotehams.com


I have two remote rig set ups.  I have used them for several years from 
many locations back to my home station.  I have used them with the 
computer(TRX manager) I have used them with another K3 and the K3/0 
Mini.  I have used them on SSB, CW, RTTY, Digital.  I have used them 
remotely with Writelog and done remote contesting. I of course have made 
a lot of DX contacts remotely.


You can get help from the Remote Rig forum and the company.  You can 
also get help from Elecraft, the e-mails and the K3/0 Mini manual for 
using the RRC boxes so it is not bad.  I don't have any big problems 
with the K3/0 Mini and the Remote rig boxes although there are some 
things missing in the documentation by both companies.


What I am talking about is using the K3/0 mini for 
http://www.remotehams.com/ (remotehams)


For example do people know there are several jumpers inside the K3/0 
Mini that are totally undocumented in the manual or anyplace else I can 
find?  Do people know how to get the K3/0 Mini apart?  It is not sold as 
a kit.  There is more but I will leave it at that.


The bottom line is the K3/0 Mini manual in regards to remote hams is 
"weak"!  It should at least have a diagram or reference to a diagram on 
line. We are not dealing with another hardware product here.  We are 
dealing with software that if you go to the site says sponsored by Elecraft.


I should know better than to make a post but I thought I might be able 
to get some help for other K3/0 Mini owners or future owners for at 
least a schematic  but mainly all I read is defense of the status quo.  
I am QRT on this subject.   I will talk to Elecraft support tomorrow.


73

Ed W0SD


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[Rick Stealey]

Barry says:
> My comments are based upon using the K3/IO-Mini via remote rig directly to my 
> remote rig controller at the target K3 (e.g. the 1258MK II system) and NOT 
> using remotehams.com service. I am not familiar with remotehams.com setup, 
> but presume that the same concepts apply.
> 

The user will not be able to make some changes on the remotehams.com K3 at the 
remote site, for obvious reasons.For example he will not be able to access the 
transmit EQ menu and make changes which might degrade the K3 for the next user 
who has a different microphone.  I am not familiar with what menu items are 
locked out, but I know at least some are.For now, if I may make a suggestion, 
it would be for the new user to familiarize himself with the front panel 
controls and not worry at all about any menu settings.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[Barry Baines]

George:

Other than the specific instructions needed to connect the K3/IO-Mini to a K3 
trough a Remote Rig device, there is nothing different about setting up and 
operating the K3/IO-Mini than there is in operating the target K3 itself.  Keep 
in mind that the front panel of the K3/IO-mini (including all knobs, menus, 
etc.) directly controls the corresponding settings of the “remote” (or 
“target”) K3 that it is connected to.  When you change a setting on the 
K3/IO-Mini, it is actually changing the settings on the target K3.  If you go 
into the configuration menus, you’re changing the configuration of the target 
K3.

The only exception off hand that I can think of to this general statement is 
that K3 must be set for “rear panel” microphone so that the mic feed that is 
coming from the “remote” K3/IO-Mini to the target K3 which in fact is fed to 
the rear panel connection of the target K3, is utilized.  Otherwise, if a front 
panel mic source is selected, the audio will not be fed into the target K3 from 
the K3/IO-Mini.

The real question is whether the operator is familiar with using a K3 and knows 
how to configure settings to meet their needs.  Thus, reviewing the K3 
operating manual makes much sense since that is what is being controlled by the 
K3/IO-Mini.

My comments are based upon using the K3/IO-Mini via remote rig directly to my 
remote rig controller at the target K3 (e.g. the 1258MK II system) and NOT 
using remotehams.com service. I am not familiar with remotehams.com setup, but 
presume that the same concepts apply.

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA
(Currently in Shelby, NC)


On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:10 PM, George via Elecraft  
wrote:
> 
> 
> I am setting up a K3/0-Mini for a friend who will use it to operate  remote 
> stations accessible via remotehams.com service.
> 
> The K3/0-Mini was delivered with an Owner's Manual.  The  manual is limited 
> to describing how  to set up the Mini to  work with a PC, how to operate 
> with the RemoteRig 1258 MKII System (which  we are not using), and how to 
> update the Mini's firmware.  The Owner's  Manual does not contain any 
> information about how to use all of the controls on  the Mini, or any 
> information 
> about its Menu and Config selections.  
> 
> Since the person who will be using the Mini is not familiar with at  all 
> with the Mini, or its big brother, a K3, we will need a user-oriented manual  
> that provides the all the information that an operator will need to  know. I 
> can download copy of a K3 manual, however, I don't know if the  
> explanations described for a K3 also pertain to the functions of the  
> K3/0_Mini.
> 
> Please let me know if there is a more complete user-oriented Operator's  
> Manual for the MIni, or will the K3 manual correctly explain all the  
> functions of the Mini?
> 
> Thanks, George.
> 
> George  Wagner, K5KG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[John K3TN via Elecraft]

Hi, Jim - I'm a big fan of your guidance on bonding/shielding. There aren't a
lot of variables to play with between the K3 Mini and the Remote Rig - I did
all the usual things that have solved hum in the past, but didn't see any
improvement. I'm going to run the Mini off of a battery, see if that solves
the TX hum - but I mostly do CW, so haven't gotten back to it.

The RX audio problem is pure attenuation, I can crank up the gain on the RRC
to overcome that attenuation in the Mini audio path but then I'm likely to
be introducing distortion in the RRC.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Brian Sheets]

YahŠ it sucks. I knew when I moved to an apartment that staying on HF was
going to be a challenge, but I was not prepared for the breaker issue. I
found that with my kx3 and a wonderwand wonder loop on my kitchen table,
that with 10 watts I can do some jt65 and wspr on 20m without popping the
breakers. But my success has been limited and not worthwhile.

I¹ve been a remotehamradio user for almost a year now, but I don¹t have
much interest in ssb or cw these days. Remotehamradio does have a beta
test going on for ³logging² software such as ham radio deluxe. I¹ve tried
jt65 over it, but haven¹t had consistent results and get disconnected or
have HRD lock up. I¹ve been avoiding buying a K3/0 for some time, just
because I didn¹t want to spend the money on a ³non radio² device. But if
I¹m going to get back on jt65, I think its my best option.

Brian
KA7KDX

On 5/30/15, 2:13 PM, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote:

Hi,

Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my
interest. I
had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices
have
been mandatory since 1999! Another federal mandate to protect people
against
their own stupidity (not checking their power cords for fraying and other
damage).

AB2TC - Knut


KA7KDX wrote
 Does anyone have K3/0 they want to part with? I'm stuck in apartment,
I've
 tried everything from wires to magnetic loops. My problem is not getting
 out, its AFCI breakers. Any rf out and they pop (including the
apartments
 around me.)
 
 So if anyone has one they want to part with, let me know
 
 Brian
 KA7KDX
 bri...@fl240.com





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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Don Wilhelm]

I recall reading something in an ARRL publication or newsletter that at 
least one manufacturer of AFCI breakers has addressed and corrected the 
problem of RF susceptibility.  That company is Eaton.


It is a bummer that consumers must suffer from products that do not have 
sufficient RF immunity.  If all manufacturers would 'step up to the 
plate' and accept that we live in a world where RF is present, often in 
strong fields, we would not have a problem.  Hams are not the only cause 
of RF problems - think of the problems encountered by those who reside 
near broadcast stations.  RF fields are emitted by police, fire and 
other emergency service transmitters.
IMHO, more manufacturers must be willing to design products that can 
withstand reasonable RF fields.  Of course, most consumers do not 
understand that, and the ham is to blame.  There was a parallel back 
in the 1950s and 1960s with television interference when many TVs were 
designed with front ends and IF chains that would pick up RF on most any 
frequency, much to the consumer's dismay and blame placed on the ham, 
even if his transmissions were clean of harmonics.
It just about drove operation on 15 meters off the air because many TV 
sets used a 21 MHz IF that was 'wide open' for interference.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/30/2015 4:13 PM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my interest. I
had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices have
been mandatory since 1999!


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[KA7KDX]

Does anyone have K3/0 they want to part with? I'm stuck in apartment, I've
tried everything from wires to magnetic loops. My problem is not getting
out, its AFCI breakers. Any rf out and they pop (including the apartments
around me.)

So if anyone has one they want to part with, let me know

Brian
KA7KDX
bri...@fl240.com



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[ab2tc]

Hi,

Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my interest. I
had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices have
been mandatory since 1999! Another federal mandate to protect people against
their own stupidity (not checking their power cords for fraying and other
damage).

AB2TC - Knut


KA7KDX wrote
 Does anyone have K3/0 they want to part with? I'm stuck in apartment, I've
 tried everything from wires to magnetic loops. My problem is not getting
 out, its AFCI breakers. Any rf out and they pop (including the apartments
 around me.)
 
 So if anyone has one they want to part with, let me know
 
 Brian
 KA7KDX
 bri...@fl240.com





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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Brian Sheets]

I hope to not live in an apartment that long :)

On 5/30/15, 4:03 PM, G4GNX g4...@theatreorgans.co.uk wrote:

Fortunately these devices are not mandated in the UK.

Whilst the prevention of fires is laudable, ISTM that the regulators have
jumped the gun and insisted on the use of a device that is still under
development.

Reading the WIKI on AFCI breakers, where lightning nuisance trips occur,
they are under-developed devices of the devil!

Perhaps it's time that litigation took place, along the lines of: It was
late at night and there was an electrical storm which caused an AFCI to
trip, which resulted in the lights failing. My aging mother fell down the
stairs in the dark and broke her collar bone, for which I hold you fully
responsible!!!

It would seem that it is still not possible to fix 'stupid'!

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:01 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

I recall reading something in an ARRL publication or newsletter that at
least one manufacturer of AFCI breakers has addressed and corrected the
problem of RF susceptibility.  That company is Eaton.

It is a bummer that consumers must suffer from products that do not have
sufficient RF immunity.  If all manufacturers would 'step up to the
plate' and accept that we live in a world where RF is present, often in
strong fields, we would not have a problem.  Hams are not the only cause
of RF problems - think of the problems encountered by those who reside
near broadcast stations.  RF fields are emitted by police, fire and
other emergency service transmitters.
IMHO, more manufacturers must be willing to design products that can
withstand reasonable RF fields.  Of course, most consumers do not
understand that, and the ham is to blame.  There was a parallel back
in the 1950s and 1960s with television interference when many TVs were
designed with front ends and IF chains that would pick up RF on most any
frequency, much to the consumer's dismay and blame placed on the ham,
even if his transmissions were clean of harmonics.
It just about drove operation on 15 meters off the air because many TV
sets used a 21 MHz IF that was 'wide open' for interference.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/30/2015 4:13 PM, ab2tc wrote:
 Hi,

 Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my
interest. 
 I
 had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got
me
 quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices
 have
 been mandatory since 1999!

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[G4GNX]

Fortunately these devices are not mandated in the UK.

Whilst the prevention of fires is laudable, ISTM that the regulators have
jumped the gun and insisted on the use of a device that is still under
development.

Reading the WIKI on AFCI breakers, where lightning nuisance trips occur,
they are under-developed devices of the devil!

Perhaps it's time that litigation took place, along the lines of: It was
late at night and there was an electrical storm which caused an AFCI to
trip, which resulted in the lights failing. My aging mother fell down the
stairs in the dark and broke her collar bone, for which I hold you fully
responsible!!!

It would seem that it is still not possible to fix 'stupid'!

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm

Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:01 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

I recall reading something in an ARRL publication or newsletter that at
least one manufacturer of AFCI breakers has addressed and corrected the
problem of RF susceptibility.  That company is Eaton.

It is a bummer that consumers must suffer from products that do not have
sufficient RF immunity.  If all manufacturers would 'step up to the
plate' and accept that we live in a world where RF is present, often in
strong fields, we would not have a problem.  Hams are not the only cause
of RF problems - think of the problems encountered by those who reside
near broadcast stations.  RF fields are emitted by police, fire and
other emergency service transmitters.
IMHO, more manufacturers must be willing to design products that can
withstand reasonable RF fields.  Of course, most consumers do not
understand that, and the ham is to blame.  There was a parallel back
in the 1950s and 1960s with television interference when many TVs were
designed with front ends and IF chains that would pick up RF on most any
frequency, much to the consumer's dismay and blame placed on the ham,
even if his transmissions were clean of harmonics.
It just about drove operation on 15 meters off the air because many TV
sets used a 21 MHz IF that was 'wide open' for interference.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/30/2015 4:13 PM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my interest. 
I

had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices 
have

been mandatory since 1999!


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[PKA]

It all depends on what you want to achieve.

There are many different reasons for hams to want to operate RC. Different 
requirements probably call for different solutions.

If you want to operate your home rig (or for that matter a real remote rig) 
when you are not at home, eg. when travelling, it might be both expensive and 
unpractical using the K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig set. Expensive or not depends on 
your financial situation of course. But you will spend something like 1270 USD 
and you will have to carry around some boxes and cables etc. But you have the 
luxury of having a very attractive man/machine interface!

Still for the traveller: If you want an inexpensive solution, if you can accept 
to operate your rig from a computer screen and *if* you anyway carry a laptop 
ot iPad (or even iPhone) and you already have a PC in your shack (you can do 
away with a cheap notebook)  you can limit your investment to less than 100 USD 
and still operate your K3+KPA+Kat500 quite satisfactorily. I dare to say so 
because I have done it for many years (20k QSOs over 10 years, all CW).

You will need to dig into some details about setting up networks and handle 
computers, so if you dont like to do this, it might not be your solution. I 
would not say it is free of problems/challenges, but I started from scratch, 
and am very satisfied with how it works.

But if on the other hand you want to set up a stationary operating pos. for a 
remote station, it is a completely different ball game and I think the 
K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig set is by far the best solution for that situation.

So my advice to you is to first of all find out what kind of use you are 
looking for and then select a solution.

73 de Paul
OZ4UN

Sent from my iPad

 On 26 May 2015, at 14:40, jlbates4 jlbat...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
 siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
 products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.
 
 I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
 commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.
 
 Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?
 
 My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
 some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.
 
 Comments encouraged!!!
 
 
 73 de K8OI
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[PKA]

Joe
I use one of three different solutions:

1. From a laptop I use two Winkeyers connected over IP via K1EL WKremote 
Server/Client programs. Keying may be either using a paddle or using the laptop 
keyboard. Alternatively it is possible to use only one Winkeyer at the remote 
rig and input by keyboard via Teamviewer. Audio is based on IP-Sound which is 
excellent for CW ( superior to Skype).

2. From an iPad or iPhone I use an app called K3iNetwork made by Mike KS7D. 
Keying using the keypad. You can even use voice input to the iPhone/iPad (and 
key your rig) using SIRI, but this is not yet useful and needs some more work 
on the app. But it could be developed to be an interesting mode for RC 
operation from a moving car. Audio based on Skype.

3. From an iPad or iPhone I use an app called K3iDitDah also made by Mike. 
Keying is done using the touch screen in a way like touch-type paddling. 
Although this app can be used as it is now it still does need some development 
work. Audio based on Skype.

NB: It is possible to switch between solution 1 and 2 (or 3) on the fly while 
receiving!

73 de Paul
OZ4UN

Sent from my iPad

On 29 May 2015, at 22:01, Joe Moffatt 
j...@selectconnect.netmailto:j...@selectconnect.net wrote:

What remote solution do you use for CW?

Joe



From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Poul Erik 
Karlshøj (PKA)
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 11:53 AM
To: jlbates4
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

It all depends on what you want to achieve.

There are many different reasons for hams to want to operate RC. Different 
requirements probably call for different solutions.

If you want to operate your home rig (or for that matter a real remote rig) 
when you are not at home, eg. when travelling, it might be both expensive and 
unpractical using the K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig set. Expensive or not depends on 
your financial situation of course. But you will spend something like 1270 USD 
and you will have to carry around some boxes and cables etc. But you have the 
luxury of having a very attractive man/machine interface!

Still for the traveller: If you want an inexpensive solution, if you can accept 
to operate your rig from a computer screen and *if* you anyway carry a laptop 
ot iPad (or even iPhone) and you already have a PC in your shack (you can do 
away with a cheap notebook) you can limit your investment to less than 100 USD 
and still operate your K3+KPA+Kat500 quite satisfactorily. I dare to say so 
because I have done it for many years (20k QSOs over 10 years, all CW).

You will need to dig into some details about setting up networks and handle 
computers, so if you dont like to do this, it might not be your solution. I 
would not say it is free of problems/challenges, but I started from scratch, 
and am very satisfied with how it works.

But if on the other hand you want to set up a stationary operating pos. for a 
remote station, it is a completely different ball game and I think the 
K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig set is by far the best solution for that situation.

So my advice to you is to first of all find out what kind of use you are 
looking for and then select a solution.

73 de Paul
OZ4UN

Sent from my iPad

 On 26 May 2015, at 14:40, jlbates4 
 jlbat...@gmail.commailto:jlbat...@gmail.com%3e wrote:

 I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
 siren call is hard to resist. I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
 products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.

 I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
 commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.

 Anyone play with the codecs? Thoughts on the different audio quality?

 My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
 some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.

 Comments encouraged!!!


 73 de K8OI



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[John K3TN via Elecraft]

I've been using the Remote Rig interfaces with my K3 for several years and
the K3/Mini for the past 6 months or so. I'm a big fan of the Remote Rig
devices, not a fan of the K3/Mini.

I started out doing remote operating with the K4VV group using an all
software approach and the Remote Rig devices are an enormous improvement -
reduction in latency, better audio quality, the ability to essentially just
have a very long mic/key/headset cords vs. doing remote PC control.

You still need a decent Internet connection. The Remote Rig interfaces will
**not** correct for packet loss or high jitter (variable latency) Internet
connections. If your round trip delay is much over 150ms, or varies widely
from ping to ping, or if you lose packets, CW in particular will not be
usable. 

The Remote Rigs also have a gazillion parameters and the manuals don't quite
get you there - almost everyone has to resort to the million monkeys
randomly hitting keys approach to get everything going. The forums on the
Remote Rig site are very helpful and W1UE in particular has posted a lot of
good K3 guidance.

The K3/Mini has been a big disappointment, especially at the price - I
should have just gotten a bare bones K3. The major problem has been the
audio on both TX and RX when connecting the headset to the Mini (vs.
connecting to the RemoteRig). On TX, I get loud hum and on RX, the audio is
20db down compared to the audio coming out of the RemoteRig.

I sent the Mini back, Elecraft sent it back saying it worked fine. (They
didn't even contact me, which I objected to and they are fixing that problem
in their process.) On RX, apparently that audio loss is due to a filter that
was put in to deal with digital noise getting in the audio, but running the
AF gain at 90% on the Mini is not acceptable to me - distortion up and no
head room for low signals or turning off AGC, etc.

So, I have to connect the headset to the RemoteRig, then audio is fine - but
the cabling is less convenient and messy. Part of the reason I justified
spending the $700 was to be able to essentially use the Mini just like I
would a real K3, but I can't do that. I may bring along the Mini and
Remote Rig set up on travel some day if I keep the Mini - that portability
is about the only reason to keep it.

Others have had the same audio issues, others just naturally connect their
headset to the RemoteRig, others have had no problems with the Mini - your
mileage may vary. 

73 John K3TN



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Gerry Hull]

Good perception, Jim... experience pays off.   We had this same problem
with Andy, K2LE.  We have two remoterig remote ends connected to the same
common remote station.  My audio has been flawless.  Andy kept having poor
audio -- muffled, microphonic sounds but no clear audio.  It turned out to
be the power supply, which was an underpowered switching supply.  The
RemoteRig box does not come with a supply.  I power mine off of a 4A
switcher,  and it's fine.A 1A supply should work, but they seem to have
issues.

73, Gerry W1VE


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 On Wed,5/27/2015 3:04 AM, John K3TN via Elecraft wrote:

 Others have had the same audio issues, others just naturally connect their
 headset to the RemoteRig, others have had no problems with the Mini - your
 mileage may vary.


 Hi John,

 I know nothing about these products other than a vague one paragraph
 functional description, but I do suspect an issue with the audio interface
 and/or how the units are powered and bonded. Take a look at the pdf of my
 slides for a talk I did on this topic at Pacificon last fall.
 http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

 73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Gerry Hull]

​I've been using the K3/0 mini for about a year for casual DXing and for
many contests.
The K3/0 mini is perfect -- a mirror of your K3.​  Once you get used to the
the fact that
you are setting menus on the Remote radio, all will be good.

The mix that is important is how you use the K3/0 to interconnect it to the
remote shack.
As stated here, many users are using the MicroBit RemoteRig product.  This
adds about $750+/-
to your remote cost, but provides a far superior result than any other
method.

The killers in remote operation are latency and jitter (jitter being the
varying difference in latency over time.)
The Microbit boxes use dedicated hardware, and a very flexible software
configuration. to allow you to tailor the box to your needs.   The
RemoteRig components are not designed specifically for the K3; therefore,
they have a generic interface design, and Elecraft sells the specific
interconnect cable for the K3/0.

The majority of my contesting experience has been on CW in the Majors: CQWW
and ARRL DX, running remote to K2LE/1 from my QTH in NH.  The shack has
1.5Mb/.5Mb DSL service.  The average latency on the connection varies from
120-150mS, with very manageable jitter.   We run the RemoteRig boxes with
8kHz bandwidth, and this works very well.   I don't feel handicapped by
being remote at all... In many QSOs, I get unsolicited comments of great
audio on SSB, and no issues with CW.  It is just like being there.

The Microbit boxes do have a lot of configuration parameters.  You also
have to know how to port forward from your router in the shack (unless you
are using the box in your own home, and both ends are on the same LAN).  If
you are not familiar with networking, configuring the boxes can be a
challenge.  As the others have stated, the forum on the RemoteRig site is a
good resource -- search it with Google first, as much of your frustration
has already been experienced by others.

Their is another solution with the K3/0 which is essentially 15-minute plug
and play.  It is a free solution, once you own the K3/0.   This is the
software and website of Brandon, KG6YPI -- an Elecraft employee and the guy
you usually talk to if you are experiencing problems with the Microbit gear
and K3/0.

Your K3/0 has a USB connector on it.   This connector can be plugged into a
PC, and two codecs (send/receive) and two RS-232 connections (Rig Control
and passthrough) are automatically installed.

Brandon's site is www.remotehams.com.   Their is PC software for the remote
end as well as the server end.
You can use Brandon's software without the K3/0 -- but it has some very
cool features:
- If you have a K3/0 and a K3 at the station, you get full control of the
radio with all features.
- If you want to connect to a remote on RemoteHams, where the remote is NOT
a K3, you can still use the
K3/0 for frequency control and other features.

I use RemoteHams to control Dom, 3Z9DX's station, and run SSB from Poland.
  It works very well, though the overall
latency is much higher.

CW still has some work to be done.  But I know Brandon is getting there.
I've asked Dom if I could try his station in some contest on CW -- it will
be interesting to see how that works out.

I use both RemoteHams and the Microbit RemoteRig solution with the K3/0,
and am very happy with both; I will continue to use RemoteRig in serious
contest situations.

73, Gerry W1VE
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 I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
 siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
 products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.

 I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
 commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.

 Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?

 My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
 some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.

 Comments encouraged!!!


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On Wed,5/27/2015 3:04 AM, John K3TN via Elecraft wrote:

Others have had the same audio issues, others just naturally connect their
headset to the RemoteRig, others have had no problems with the Mini - your
mileage may vary.


Hi John,

I know nothing about these products other than a vague one paragraph 
functional description, but I do suspect an issue with the audio 
interface and/or how the units are powered and bonded. Take a look at 
the pdf of my slides for a talk I did on this topic at Pacificon last 
fall. http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Kari SM0HRP]

Hi!
I have used the K3 mini extensively over the year. Both over a ADSL line and
4G. . Latency is dependent on the internet access -  on ADLS it is 10 ms on
4G 30-40 ms.The K3 mini is so well established and works so well with the K3
and the RRC 1258 units so it is just for you to go and buy it. There is no
big difference with different codecs. I use the next lowest quality level
and when running dual mode it consumes about 400 kbps. Going for better
audio quality I could not hear the difference to be honest.   I have worked
over 700 QSO:s over a year and all major Dx-peditions on almost all bands
which proves the quality of the system. My system can be seen on qrz.com.
I control ACOM2000A:s and OM 2500A:s with rotor controls from Green Heron.
Works UFB.  
Join the satisfied Electraft K3 remote club. You wont be disappointed.   



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