RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
I don't like it when mommy and daddy fight. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:54 AM To: Baker, Jennifer Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question This coming from a person who dresses in black every day and listens to Goth Music. Keep a lid on it Batman. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Ewins, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You should see him in his nice powder blue top. Very fetching. JDE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Are we there yet? I have to use the bathroom. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I don't like it when mommy and daddy fight. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:54 AM To: Baker, Jennifer Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question This coming from a person who dresses in black every day and listens to Goth Music. Keep a lid on it Batman. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Ewins, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You should see him in his nice powder blue top. Very fetching. JDE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Mom!! Andy's breathing again!! -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Are we there yet? I have to use the bathroom. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I don't like it when mommy and daddy fight. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:54 AM To: Baker, Jennifer Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question This coming from a person who dresses in black every day and listens to Goth Music. Keep a lid on it Batman. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Ewins, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You should see him in his nice powder blue top. Very fetching. JDE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Stop it all of you. Lori, go to your room, Andy, cross your legs. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 17:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Mom!! Andy's breathing again!! -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Are we there yet? I have to use the bathroom. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I don't like it when mommy and daddy fight. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:54 AM To: Baker, Jennifer Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question This coming from a person who dresses in black every day and listens to Goth Music. Keep a lid on it Batman. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Ewins, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You should see him in his nice powder blue top. Very fetching. JDE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Someone hogging the can again? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Are we there yet? I have to use the bathroom. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I don't like it when mommy and daddy fight. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:54 AM To: Baker, Jennifer Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question This coming from a person who dresses in black every day and listens to Goth Music. Keep a lid on it Batman. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Ewins, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You should see him in his nice powder blue top. Very fetching. JDE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
ahhh... I remember you now! yeesss... -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question All's fair in war. I am a birds and bees guru. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Hey! Thats not fair! My last name is a bit feminine ( a lot of old ladies in the UK called Joyce) but i have never known a female called Louis? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:20 AM To: Baker, Jennifer Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question ahhh... I remember you now! yeesss... -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question All's fair in war. I am a birds and bees guru. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Hey! Thats not fair! My last name is a bit feminine ( a lot of old ladies in the UK called Joyce) but i have never known a female called Louis? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
We can surely tell that it is Friday, can't we. I like this much better than that other thing you do on Friday. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Work? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question We can surely tell that it is Friday, can't we. I like this much better than that other thing you do on Friday. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Consultant Security/System Audit??
At 11:08 AM 1/4/2002 -0500, Hansen, Eric wrote: Does anyone here do or have had done to them a security or systems check for their Exchange site? Our budget time is approaching and I'd like to budget to have a guy come in and test our email system for security and possibly go over the system for performance and whatnot just to make sure I haven't missed anything anywhere. I know they do this sort of thing for networks in general but do they do it for email and specifically exchange? Yes, people do this Often part of whole network Evaluation Budget only guys? Limits your options by half Girls do sec work too... - K. Triona Guidry Guidry Consulting, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.guidryconsulting.com A girl's gotta have her standards. -- Real Genius _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
No, that strange poetry stuff. Hari-Kiri?? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Work? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question We can surely tell that it is Friday, can't we. I like this much better than that other thing you do on Friday. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Bathe? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question We can surely tell that it is Friday, can't we. I like this much better than that other thing you do on Friday. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent
No. I checked and they appear to be an original message without any forwarding. Also, not using anything but Exchange and Antigen for my email. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent Do the message headers of the received messages indicate it is the Exchange server resending them? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A particular email is repeatedly being sent I sent an email to someone who is my contacts list one time yesterday morning but my Exchange server has since sent that same email to that same recipient about 40 times since. I've checked the log files, the event viewer, the tracking but I see only the original message. Neither the recipient or I have any rules turned on and neither of us has the OOA on. We're both using Outlook 2000. Using an E2k mailbox server w/ sp2 and a Ex5.5 IMC if that matters and no one else has reported this being an issue. The only change to the server was that we added 2GB of RAM to the mailbox server last night but the email loop started before that time and is still continuing to happen. Any ideas? I did not see anything in TechNet regarding this issue. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent
And the Exchange server is the IP address that is resending the message, not some intermediary system? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent No. I checked and they appear to be an original message without any forwarding. Also, not using anything but Exchange and Antigen for my email. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent Do the message headers of the received messages indicate it is the Exchange server resending them? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A particular email is repeatedly being sent I sent an email to someone who is my contacts list one time yesterday morning but my Exchange server has since sent that same email to that same recipient about 40 times since. I've checked the log files, the event viewer, the tracking but I see only the original message. Neither the recipient or I have any rules turned on and neither of us has the OOA on. We're both using Outlook 2000. Using an E2k mailbox server w/ sp2 and a Ex5.5 IMC if that matters and no one else has reported this being an issue. The only change to the server was that we added 2GB of RAM to the mailbox server last night but the email loop started before that time and is still continuing to happen. Any ideas? I did not see anything in TechNet regarding this issue. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
you mock my innermost feelings...my chi...my essence? May the goddesses have mercy on your soul. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question No, that strange poetry stuff. Hari-Kiri?? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Work? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question We can surely tell that it is Friday, can't we. I like this much better than that other thing you do on Friday. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Consultant Security/System Audit??
I'm available for consulting of this nature. Where is aruplabs located? - Original Message - From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: Consultant Security/System Audit?? Does anyone here do or have had done to them a security or systems check for their Exchange site? Our budget time is approaching and I'd like to budget to have a guy come in and test our email system for security and possibly go over the system for performance and whatnot just to make sure I haven't missed anything anywhere. I know they do this sort of thing for networks in general but do they do it for email and specifically exchange? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
and what's wrong with all black? - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:51 AM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question This coming from a person who dresses in black every day and listens to Goth Music. Keep a lid on it Batman. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Ewins, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You should see him in his nice powder blue top. Very fetching. JDE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures
Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Would that be the new and improved STiCK? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Sure, with this ! http://www.airborne.net/eready/janette/store/compdetail.asp?sku=AB-SP-RD-300 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Is one allowed to FDISK a user? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
I mock nothing, it's.. it's just that some of it is so BAD! And if you like, I'll mail suggestions for chi enhancing exercises. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question you mock my innermost feelings...my chi...my essence? May the goddesses have mercy on your soul. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question No, that strange poetry stuff. Hari-Kiri?? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Work? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question We can surely tell that it is Friday, can't we. I like this much better than that other thing you do on Friday. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
I have upgraded my STiCK 2.0 with the 9 nail add-on. It's much more efficient now. S -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think Would that be the new and improved STiCK? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Sure, with this ! http://www.airborne.net/eready/janette/store/compdetail.asp?sku=AB-SP-RD-300 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Is one allowed to FDISK a user? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
I especially hate the ones that are not 5-7-5 but actually 17 syllable sentences that are word-wrapped into Haiku format. S. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I mock nothing, it's.. it's just that some of it is so BAD! And if you like, I'll mail suggestions for chi enhancing exercises. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question you mock my innermost feelings...my chi...my essence? May the goddesses have mercy on your soul. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question No, that strange poetry stuff. Hari-Kiri?? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Work? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question We can surely tell that it is Friday, can't we. I like this much better than that other thing you do on Friday. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Consultant Security/System Audit??
Salt Lake City, Utah. Its still on the drawing board, I'm just gathering information. On that note should I wait to do all this till a 2k migration? Opinions? What about .net? -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Consultant Security/System Audit?? I'm available for consulting of this nature. Where is aruplabs located? - Original Message - From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: Consultant Security/System Audit?? Does anyone here do or have had done to them a security or systems check for their Exchange site? Our budget time is approaching and I'd like to budget to have a guy come in and test our email system for security and possibly go over the system for performance and whatnot just to make sure I haven't missed anything anywhere. I know they do this sort of thing for networks in general but do they do it for email and specifically exchange? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Have you lived with Groupshield for two years? ...then shush. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I mock nothing, it's.. it's just that some of it is so BAD! And if you like, I'll mail suggestions for chi enhancing exercises. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question you mock my innermost feelings...my chi...my essence? May the goddesses have mercy on your soul. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question No, that strange poetry stuff. Hari-Kiri?? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Work? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question We can surely tell that it is Friday, can't we. I like this much better than that other thing you do on Friday. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question black widow Then you would be dead. /black widow _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Yes, or even a LART. Whatever you call it, I'd bet it could seriously FDISK a user... -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think Would that be the new and improved STiCK? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Sure, with this ! http://www.airborne.net/eready/janette/store/compdetail.asp?sku=AB-SP-RD-300 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Is one allowed to FDISK a user? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Can't say as I have, but I have been a proud member of Uncle Sam's overseas canoe club for 8 years. I'm sure we are about even. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Have you lived with Groupshield for two years? ...then shush. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I mock nothing, it's.. it's just that some of it is so BAD! And if you like, I'll mail suggestions for chi enhancing exercises. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
I am just as fed up with your canoe club as you are fed up with my Groupshield kiss my ass Haiku... So that makes us even... Didn't I divorce you last year? g -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Can't say as I have, but I have been a proud member of Uncle Sam's overseas canoe club for 8 years. I'm sure we are about even. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Have you lived with Groupshield for two years? ...then shush. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I mock nothing, it's.. it's just that some of it is so BAD! And if you like, I'll mail suggestions for chi enhancing exercises. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
Hello all, We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I have searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the info I am after. We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I am very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues with E-Manager. I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of you using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job or a 5 hours a week (or more) task. Thanks very much, Ronni * The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. -Albert Einstein - _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...)
Okay, There are 2 machines. First machine is a 2000 Server Domain Controller. Second machine is a 2000 Server with Exchange 2000 on there. If I reinstall the Operating System on the Second Machine but give it the same name as before, and I install Exchange 2000 on there once again, what residual things are left behind on the Domain Controller, from the Original install of EX2K on the Second machine? This is all I want to know. Thanks all for your patience with me :) Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) I have a big smile on right now. But you know have such a great attitude and enthusiasm, Lets see what we can do to help. Go check these out, and call us back when you are done. Exchange uninstall http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q260378 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q273478 --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Anderson Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) Importance: High Hello All, After all the problems that you've all seen me have, I went and did a complete reinstall of the Exchange Server. I mean - everything, like reformatting the drives, reinstalling 2000 Server, and the whole 9-yards. What I wanted to do, is take snapshots of a pre-Exchange 2000 Installed system - so I can compare all of the changes that take place when you install the EX2K server. And NOW, I can't even install the Exchange 2000 Server software! - I can select the Topmost Component in the Installation Menu and select Custom. Then sub tree items like Microsoft Exchange Messaging Collaboration Services gives me the following error message when I try to check off the Install option: The component 'Microsoft Exchange Messaging Collaboration Services' cannot be assigned 'Install' because: A server object for this server 'Exchange' already exists in the Administrative Group 'First Administrative Group'. You must either remove this server object before installing, or run Setup with the 'Disaster Recovery' switch if you are attempting this server. Should I just shoot myself right now? Just for kicks, I tried the Disaster Recovery option, and then the install kicked off again, selected that Option, then it gave me a new error message saying that I need to run the Domain Prep crap - blah blah blah... So I tried that, it ran fine, then ran the install again, then errored out again! What the heck is it finding? It HAS to be something left behind from the previous Exchange 2000 Install - on the 2000 Server Domain Controller because it's impossible to have anything left on the old box because it was ALL BLOWN AWAY. Using Active Directory Administrator on the Domain Controller, I deleted the 2 Exchange Specific Groups that were created from the last EX2K Server Install figuring that's what the Error Message was referring to, but that didn't fix the problem. Does anybody have any ideas as to what I need to do, in order to perform a 100% Fresh EX2K install on a Fresh Windows 2000 Server? At this point, I am painfully remembering WHY I avoided using Exchange over the past several years. I am NOT giving up though - I really need to get this working, and I hate spending entire days, on attempting to get some of the most basic features of the software running, before I can get into all the fun stuff - like actually adding users, virtual domains, tweaking and optimizing - you know, actually USING the software for it's intended purpose before I get my butt fired??? I am a very frustrated person right now ... uggh Thanks in advance for all your expertise, Mike _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
The nail did get stuck once and I called tech support. They told me it was an added feature to the product. When the nail gets stuck, the stick becomes the handle of the human broom you use to mop up the mess, which answers your first question. S. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think But what about the mess that leaves? Doesn't the nail ever get stuck? Does tech support have a 24-hour phone line to help with this issue? And are they available as a blue light special? - Original Message - From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think I have upgraded my STiCK 2.0 with the 9 nail add-on. It's much more efficient now. S -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think Would that be the new and improved STiCK? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Sure, with this ! http://www.airborne.net/eready/janette/store/compdetail.asp?sku=AB-SP-RD-300 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Is one allowed to FDISK a user? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
Trend on Linux Rocks! The web interface is very sweet and it actually does what you tell it to do. I tested Emanager very briefly (1 month) with Exchange. I am sure they will allow you to test it out for yourself. -Original Message- From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Hello all, We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I have searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the info I am after. We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I am very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues with E-Manager. I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of you using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job or a 5 hours a week (or more) task. Thanks very much, Ronni * The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. -Albert Einstein - _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent
Here is the header from one of the messages that the recipient received that I did not send... Received: from apsnt4.aps-soft.com ([10.0.0.4]) by apsnt4.aps-soft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Z0HVN44G; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 04:59:39 -0500 To: 'Randy Thomas' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from FTLWEB1.RUDEN.COM (12.24.178.15[12.24.178.15 port:1507]) by apsnt4.aps-soft.comMail essentials (server 2.429) with SMTP id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]transfer for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:29:26 PM -0500 ;transfer smtpmailfrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MESINK_Inbound: 1 X-MESINK_MailForType: SMTP X-MESINK_SenderType: SMTP X-MESINK_Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MESINK_MailFor: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by FTLWEB1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)id ZZGK1R6T; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:28:00 -0500 From: Michel, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Guess What Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:28:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C1947B.FE13D2FF x-receiver: [EMAIL PROTECTED] x-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: 5e1c4eec040a2207d2@[10.0.0.4] --_=_NextPart_001_01C1947B.FE13D2FF Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent And the Exchange server is the IP address that is resending the message, not some intermediary system? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent No. I checked and they appear to be an original message without any forwarding. Also, not using anything but Exchange and Antigen for my email. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent Do the message headers of the received messages indicate it is the Exchange server resending them? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A particular email is repeatedly being sent I sent an email to someone who is my contacts list one time yesterday morning but my Exchange server has since sent that same email to that same recipient about 40 times since. I've checked the log files, the event viewer, the tracking but I see only the original message. Neither the recipient or I have any rules turned on and neither of us has the OOA on. We're both using Outlook 2000. Using an E2k mailbox server w/ sp2 and a Ex5.5 IMC if that matters and no one else has reported this being an issue. The only change to the server was that we added 2GB of RAM to the mailbox server last night but the email loop started before that time and is still continuing to happen. Any ideas? I did not see anything in TechNet regarding this issue. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
I have evaluated Trend's E-Manager at one point in time. It works ok, but not as comprehensive or flexible as MailSweeper. Take a look at Praetor as well. Content filtering is a losing battle in my opinion. You will be chasing an ever so mobile optimum point where you block the most amount of spam while blocking the least amount of non-spam mail. The whole thing boils down to user education. The ONLY way you can reduce spam is to tell your users NOT to use their email accounts anywhere outside the organization. This means no comments to stories on CNN.com, no forwarding of chainmails, not using their corporate email id to bid on auctions on eBay etc. etc. Content filtering will buy you only so much. Without user education it'll just make spam a bigger headache for you. Your users will become triple frustrated when they receive spam when they know you have a content filtering package in place, and let me reassure you that no content filter is 100% accurate. Your users WILL receive uce even if you have the most aggressive filter in place. S. -Original Message- From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Hello all, We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I have searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the info I am after. We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I am very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues with E-Manager. I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of you using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job or a 5 hours a week (or more) task. Thanks very much, Ronni * The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. -Albert Einstein - _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...)
Michael, Read the Q Articles that Kevin and I sent you. E2K is nested in the AD structure. Without wiping out your entire AD domain or following the Q Articles we sent you, you will be SOL. D -Original Message- From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) Okay, There are 2 machines. First machine is a 2000 Server Domain Controller. Second machine is a 2000 Server with Exchange 2000 on there. If I reinstall the Operating System on the Second Machine but give it the same name as before, and I install Exchange 2000 on there once again, what residual things are left behind on the Domain Controller, from the Original install of EX2K on the Second machine? This is all I want to know. Thanks all for your patience with me :) Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) I have a big smile on right now. But you know have such a great attitude and enthusiasm, Lets see what we can do to help. Go check these out, and call us back when you are done. Exchange uninstall http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q260378 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q273478 --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Anderson Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) Importance: High Hello All, After all the problems that you've all seen me have, I went and did a complete reinstall of the Exchange Server. I mean - everything, like reformatting the drives, reinstalling 2000 Server, and the whole 9-yards. What I wanted to do, is take snapshots of a pre-Exchange 2000 Installed system - so I can compare all of the changes that take place when you install the EX2K server. And NOW, I can't even install the Exchange 2000 Server software! - I can select the Topmost Component in the Installation Menu and select Custom. Then sub tree items like Microsoft Exchange Messaging Collaboration Services gives me the following error message when I try to check off the Install option: The component 'Microsoft Exchange Messaging Collaboration Services' cannot be assigned 'Install' because: A server object for this server 'Exchange' already exists in the Administrative Group 'First Administrative Group'. You must either remove this server object before installing, or run Setup with the 'Disaster Recovery' switch if you are attempting this server. Should I just shoot myself right now? Just for kicks, I tried the Disaster Recovery option, and then the install kicked off again, selected that Option, then it gave me a new error message saying that I need to run the Domain Prep crap - blah blah blah... So I tried that, it ran fine, then ran the install again, then errored out again! What the heck is it finding? It HAS to be something left behind from the previous Exchange 2000 Install - on the 2000 Server Domain Controller because it's impossible to have anything left on the old box because it was ALL BLOWN AWAY. Using Active Directory Administrator on the Domain Controller, I deleted the 2 Exchange Specific Groups that were created from the last EX2K Server Install figuring that's what the Error Message was referring to, but that didn't fix the problem. Does anybody have any ideas as to what I need to do, in order to perform a 100% Fresh EX2K install on a Fresh Windows 2000 Server? At this point, I am painfully remembering WHY I avoided using Exchange over the past several years. I am NOT giving up though - I really need to get this working, and I hate spending entire days, on attempting to get some of the most basic features of the software running, before I can get into all the fun stuff - like actually adding users, virtual domains, tweaking and optimizing - you know, actually USING the software for it's intended purpose before I get my butt fired??? I am a very frustrated person right now ... uggh Thanks in advance for all your expertise, Mike _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ:
RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...)
Ok will do. Thanks for all your help. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) Michael, Read the Q Articles that Kevin and I sent you. E2K is nested in the AD structure. Without wiping out your entire AD domain or following the Q Articles we sent you, you will be SOL. D -Original Message- From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) Okay, There are 2 machines. First machine is a 2000 Server Domain Controller. Second machine is a 2000 Server with Exchange 2000 on there. If I reinstall the Operating System on the Second Machine but give it the same name as before, and I install Exchange 2000 on there once again, what residual things are left behind on the Domain Controller, from the Original install of EX2K on the Second machine? This is all I want to know. Thanks all for your patience with me :) Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Miller Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) I have a big smile on right now. But you know have such a great attitude and enthusiasm, Lets see what we can do to help. Go check these out, and call us back when you are done. Exchange uninstall http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q260378 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q273478 --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Anderson Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: More Exchange Help (this is just not my day...) Importance: High Hello All, After all the problems that you've all seen me have, I went and did a complete reinstall of the Exchange Server. I mean - everything, like reformatting the drives, reinstalling 2000 Server, and the whole 9-yards. What I wanted to do, is take snapshots of a pre-Exchange 2000 Installed system - so I can compare all of the changes that take place when you install the EX2K server. And NOW, I can't even install the Exchange 2000 Server software! - I can select the Topmost Component in the Installation Menu and select Custom. Then sub tree items like Microsoft Exchange Messaging Collaboration Services gives me the following error message when I try to check off the Install option: The component 'Microsoft Exchange Messaging Collaboration Services' cannot be assigned 'Install' because: A server object for this server 'Exchange' already exists in the Administrative Group 'First Administrative Group'. You must either remove this server object before installing, or run Setup with the 'Disaster Recovery' switch if you are attempting this server. Should I just shoot myself right now? Just for kicks, I tried the Disaster Recovery option, and then the install kicked off again, selected that Option, then it gave me a new error message saying that I need to run the Domain Prep crap - blah blah blah... So I tried that, it ran fine, then ran the install again, then errored out again! What the heck is it finding? It HAS to be something left behind from the previous Exchange 2000 Install - on the 2000 Server Domain Controller because it's impossible to have anything left on the old box because it was ALL BLOWN AWAY. Using Active Directory Administrator on the Domain Controller, I deleted the 2 Exchange Specific Groups that were created from the last EX2K Server Install figuring that's what the Error Message was referring to, but that didn't fix the problem. Does anybody have any ideas as to what I need to do, in order to perform a 100% Fresh EX2K install on a Fresh Windows 2000 Server? At this point, I am painfully remembering WHY I avoided using Exchange over the past several years. I am NOT giving up though - I really need to get this working, and I hate spending entire days, on attempting to get some of the most basic features of the software running, before I can get into all the fun stuff - like actually adding users, virtual domains, tweaking and optimizing - you know, actually USING the software for it's intended purpose before I get my butt fired??? I am a very frustrated person right now ... uggh Thanks in advance for all your expertise, Mike _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
RE: Weird Error
It doesn't like the email address. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! All Americans are inheritors of a legacy of freedom and religious tolerance. To those Americans who would lash out at your fellow citizens simply because they worship differently or dress differently or look differently than you, there is a word for such behavior: terrorism. Tom Ridge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
Its an invalid email addy... -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
It did. And their server replied to your server which then passed back to the sender as to the results it received. Best Regards, Dan Bartley -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 14:12 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
Because of the zillions of MSN addresses, they automated it. Also, getting an automated NDR is RFC compliant. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Give to the world the best you have, and the best will come back to you. --Madeline S. Bridges -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
Ok, so basically I can just ignore the beginning part, because that is the original Message ID, and just pay attention to the 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because of the zillions of MSN addresses, they automated it. Also, getting an automated NDR is RFC compliant. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Give to the world the best you have, and the best will come back to you. --Madeline S. Bridges -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MTA Loop?
Hi folks, hope everyone had a good new year. I need some background to help troubleshoot a strange problem. Way back when, when we were still on 5.5, we moved our mailboxes to a new server, and though we had no problem with any of the boxes or connectivity (thanks Mr. Crowley!) for some reason 5.5 system administrator continued to list the old server in it's console, but it was of course unaccessible, and since it no longer existed and didn't seem to foul anything up, we didn't worry about it. When we upgraded the server to 2000, the phantom server still appears, though it is now greyed out in exchange system manager. I'm not sure what triggered it, but recently our tranaction logs started growing a a rediculous rate (3/min!) to the point where the HD was full, IS stopped, yada, yada. After sleuthing about a bit, it seemed that every time the MS Exchange MTA Stacks service started, the following errors were logged in the app log, and then the transaction logs started expanding: A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 11 104] (14) and A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1. It was originally destined for DN:CN=MICROSOFT PUBLIC MDB,CN=EXCHANGE,CN=SERVERS,CN=CONFIGURATION,OU=BLACKBAUD-DC,O=JUILLIARD§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 11 136] (12) so, there is a loop. ok got that. Question one: even after these events are logged the trans logs fill up as though the loop is continuing. why? Question two: with only one server in the network right now, do i need the MTA service? My workaround was to stop the service, and everything seems to be funtioning ok. we do plan on expanding at some point, so i will need it working properly eventually. Question three: How do i get rid of the phantom server, doing which i suspect will fix the MTA problem? If you've made it this far, and think you have some insights, a thousand thank yous. Jeremy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Periodic pauses when clients access messages
Using Outlook 2000 and Exchange 5.5 in an NT4 sp6 environment. Periodically, when you attempt to open a message or access the GAL, the client machines will hang from about 2-15 seconds or so. Cannot see any messages in the queue that might be causing this. IS on one server is about 45GB, but it's an HP with 4 processors and 1 GB of RAM. Perfmon shows CPU usage stays low. No unusual messages in the event logs on the Exchange server. I suspect either an authentication problem or network congestion, but have not been able to see anything out of the ordinary. I will also get this problem if I use Exchange Administrator to create a new mailbox or edit an existing one, if I am using the program from my workstation. We also use SMS, and there is a lot of authentication activity on the two BDC's from the CliTokn account, so I pointed my Exchange servers to the PDC for authentication, but the problem still exists. That makes me suspect more strongly network issue. On another Exchange server with only a 8 GB IS, I still get the hang issue from clients homed on that server. Any ideas on where to look for what may be causing thses periodic hangs? Anyone else seen this issue? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he received the ndr from our internal server. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
Emanger Rocks! Using the AOL top ten spammer list can reduce the amount of SPAM you receive. Filtering on specific works like any other product, it's what you make of it. Download it and have at it for 30 days free. I run Emanager, Internet VirusWall and TVCS all on the same box. The reports are pretty nice too! YMMV. -Original Message- From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Hello all, We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I have searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the info I am after. We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I am very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues with E-Manager. I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of you using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job or a 5 hours a week (or more) task. Thanks very much, Ronni * The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. -Albert Einstein - _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
m ndr'd boss... -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he received the ndr from our internal server. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis, Suhler Associates, Inc. by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange permissions
Can a mailbox have a local account instead of a domain account as its Primary NT account, or permissions? I want to create a user that is essentially not allowed to do anything but check email. exch 5.5 sp4 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
What about the shake.exe file indicated in the message? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MTA loop
Hi folks, hope everyone had a good new year. I need some background to help troubleshoot a strange problem. Way back when, when we were still on 5.5, we moved our mailboxes to a new server, and though we had no problem with any of the boxes or connectivity (thanks Mr. Crowley!) for some reason 5.5 system administrator continued to list the old server in it's console, but it was of course unaccessible, and since it no longer existed and didn't seem to foul anything up, we didn't worry about it. When we upgraded the server to 2000, the phantom server still appears, though it is now greyed out in exchange system manager. I'm not sure what triggered it, but recently our tranaction logs started growing a a rediculous rate (3/min!) to the point where the HD was full, IS stopped, yada, yada. After sleuthing about a bit, it seemed that every time the MS Exchange MTA Stacks service started, the following errors were logged in the app log, and then the transaction logs started expanding: A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 11 104] (14) and A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A= ;P=Juilliard;L=MAILBOX-020102152109Z-1. It was originally destined for DN:CN=MICROSOFT PUBLIC MDB,CN=EXCHANGE,CN=SERVERS,CN=CONFIGURATION,OU=BLACKBAUD-DC,O=JUILLIARD§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 11 136] (12) so, there is a loop. ok got that. Question one: even after these events are logged the trans logs fill up as though the loop is continuing. why? Question two: with only one server in the network right now, do i need the MTA service? My workaround was to stop the service, and everything seems to be funtioning ok. we do plan on expanding at some point, so i will need it working properly eventually. Question three: How do i get rid of the phantom server, doing which i suspect will fix the MTA problem? If you've made it this far, and think you have some insights, a thousand thank yous. Jeremy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Ah... I bet that was an intended by-product of the introduced feature. And they probably charged extra for this unforeseen functionality as well. - Original Message - From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think The nail did get stuck once and I called tech support. They told me it was an added feature to the product. When the nail gets stuck, the stick becomes the handle of the human broom you use to mop up the mess, which answers your first question. S. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think But what about the mess that leaves? Doesn't the nail ever get stuck? Does tech support have a 24-hour phone line to help with this issue? And are they available as a blue light special? - Original Message - From: Soysal, Serdar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think I have upgraded my STiCK 2.0 with the 9 nail add-on. It's much more efficient now. S -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think Would that be the new and improved STiCK? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Sure, with this ! http://www.airborne.net/eready/janette/store/compdetail.asp?sku=AB-SP-RD-300 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Is one allowed to FDISK a user? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
Better yet, block all .EXE files. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? What about the shake.exe file indicated in the message? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
I can find no listings for this at Nai, nor can I find any listings in a Google or Overture search. A hoax possibly? Matt -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? What about the shake.exe file indicated in the message? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange permissions
No. What you can do is to create an NT account for this user, allow it to only logon to your OWA servers and have them use OWA to access email. That pretty much accomplishes what you want. S. -Original Message- From: Siegel, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange permissions Can a mailbox have a local account instead of a domain account as its Primary NT account, or permissions? I want to create a user that is essentially not allowed to do anything but check email. exch 5.5 sp4 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
It isn't a virus, or at least the original wasn't. It is a computer prank. It makes your screen shake. But that isn't to say that there isn't a virus now. -Original Message- From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I can find no listings for this at Nai, nor can I find any listings in a Google or Overture search. A hoax possibly? Matt -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? What about the shake.exe file indicated in the message? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
Someone once told me that if there is an SMTP error code in the NDR (such as the 550 error he received) then it's always the other server sending that code back. I think that might have been our own beloved Mr. Chenault, IIRC. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he received the ndr from our internal server. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
Well, that means the same thing as The recipient name is not recognized to me, anyway... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! [Violence] is impractical because it is adescending spiral ending in destruction for all. --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Ok, so basically I can just ignore the beginning part, because that is the original Message ID, and just pay attention to the 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because of the zillions of MSN addresses, they automated it. Also, getting an automated NDR is RFC compliant. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Give to the world the best you have, and the best will come back to you. --Madeline S. Bridges -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Callan, Chris Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
You can argue both ways. But for the sake of simplicity, just tell him that it did come from MSN. If he needs a detailed explanation, then you need to explain to him the way that mail works. The message goes to your server, which then attempts to contact the remote server (MSN in this case). It tells the remote server who the mail is coming from, and the address it is sending to, at which point, in this case, the MSN server responded back, saying, that recipient address is invalid, or doesn't exist here, or something similar, however you want to understand it. It then says I can't accept the message because you are attempting to send to a recipient I don't recognize, and rejects the message. Then, your server returns the response from the System Administrator to the originator (your boss), stating that I attempted to deliver the message to the requested recipient, and failed. Is that a better explanation? If you want to see how it works, then open up a telnet session to your mail server (or a remote mail server for that matter) and get familiar with the commands. That is all mail servers do to talk to each other. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he received the ndr from our internal server. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
A 2-Carat D flawless would be sufficient down-payment for 1 year of my automated alt.clueless.boss forum. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he received the ndr from our internal server. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis, Suhler Associates, Inc. by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk
Neil! thanks! I should have been looking at the deployment guide the whole time. I'm only on page 8 at the moment but it does talk about the ADC in the slipstream section. I'm not sure if it's a recommendation, necessarily but it seems to imply it is an ok thing to do. I'll keep reading and perhaps I'll find the actual recommendation. Shame they don't allow a slipstream process for exchange 2000 sp2. thanks again Even to Ed who gave me a chance to restate my question. josh -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk The SP2 Deployment Guide recommends that you use the ADC from the SP2 CD. Neil -Original Message- From: Harmon, Josh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 14:42 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk Subject: RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk Because I don't have an Exchange 2000 server to install the service pack on As you can see I'm just putting the ADC up. I'm trying to figure out if the ADC on the SP1/Sp2 disks is compatible with just the base install or if you only use them if you also have Exchange 2000 servers at SP1 or SP2. My favorite part of the SP files is the empty documents folder. When I do bring Exchange 2000 up, I plan on doing so at SP2. Appreciate your concern... any suggestion about the actual question, though? I will be testing it, but just thought someone here might know. thanks, josh -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk Why wouldn't you install the latest service pack on the server? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harmon, Josh Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk I'm about to install the ADC to connect our single Exchange 5.5 site to our single Forest/Domain. I noticed that on the exchange SP1 and SP2 disks there is an ADC. Does anyone know if I can/should install this version or is it only necessary/recommended to install the SPx versions if you have Exchange 2000 installs at the according service pack level? Josh Harmon Server Admin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
Amen. The other consideration you should look at is will you filter e-mails that are really business related, but for whatever reason appear to be spam. This blocks legitimate mail and could possibly lose you business. Example: Dear Sirs, My name is Dick Cheney and I am the President of a 18 year old company based in Sussex. Our company is a manufacturer of clothing and toys for young women and girls. We have two manufacturing facilities, one located in Essex and the other next to our offices Sussex. We also have 20 remote sales locations located around the world including Japan, Korea, Russia and the Philippines. Our Asian market is particularly important to us as they produce millions of dollars in revenue yearly!! We are looking to contact you about the possibilities of saving money on our manufacturing costs and enlarging our facilities. This would be a large investment on our part with the provider we choose and are looking to partner with someone for the long term. Could you please have one of your salespersons call us as soon as possible on this? I can be reached at 555-1212 anytime during the day. Thank you, Dick (I'll let you know how many filters I set off.) -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? I have evaluated Trend's E-Manager at one point in time. It works ok, but not as comprehensive or flexible as MailSweeper. Take a look at Praetor as well. Content filtering is a losing battle in my opinion. You will be chasing an ever so mobile optimum point where you block the most amount of spam while blocking the least amount of non-spam mail. The whole thing boils down to user education. The ONLY way you can reduce spam is to tell your users NOT to use their email accounts anywhere outside the organization. This means no comments to stories on CNN.com, no forwarding of chainmails, not using their corporate email id to bid on auctions on eBay etc. etc. Content filtering will buy you only so much. Without user education it'll just make spam a bigger headache for you. Your users will become triple frustrated when they receive spam when they know you have a content filtering package in place, and let me reassure you that no content filter is 100% accurate. Your users WILL receive uce even if you have the most aggressive filter in place. S. -Original Message- From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Hello all, We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I have searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the info I am after. We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I am very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues with E-Manager. I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of you using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job or a 5 hours a week (or more) task. Thanks very much, Ronni * The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. -Albert Einstein - _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: Weird Error
Thanks for the breakdown, Ben. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error You can argue both ways. But for the sake of simplicity, just tell him that it did come from MSN. If he needs a detailed explanation, then you need to explain to him the way that mail works. The message goes to your server, which then attempts to contact the remote server (MSN in this case). It tells the remote server who the mail is coming from, and the address it is sending to, at which point, in this case, the MSN server responded back, saying, that recipient address is invalid, or doesn't exist here, or something similar, however you want to understand it. It then says I can't accept the message because you are attempting to send to a recipient I don't recognize, and rejects the message. Then, your server returns the response from the System Administrator to the originator (your boss), stating that I attempted to deliver the message to the requested recipient, and failed. Is that a better explanation? If you want to see how it works, then open up a telnet session to your mail server (or a remote mail server for that matter) and get familiar with the commands. That is all mail servers do to talk to each other. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he received the ndr from our internal server. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
Exactly what we do - hence I don't have to leap to action on this one. :) Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? Better yet, block all .EXE files. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? What about the shake.exe file indicated in the message? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
You're welcome. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Thanks for the breakdown, Ben. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error You can argue both ways. But for the sake of simplicity, just tell him that it did come from MSN. If he needs a detailed explanation, then you need to explain to him the way that mail works. The message goes to your server, which then attempts to contact the remote server (MSN in this case). It tells the remote server who the mail is coming from, and the address it is sending to, at which point, in this case, the MSN server responded back, saying, that recipient address is invalid, or doesn't exist here, or something similar, however you want to understand it. It then says I can't accept the message because you are attempting to send to a recipient I don't recognize, and rejects the message. Then, your server returns the response from the System Administrator to the originator (your boss), stating that I attempted to deliver the message to the requested recipient, and failed. Is that a better explanation? If you want to see how it works, then open up a telnet session to your mail server (or a remote mail server for that matter) and get familiar with the commands. That is all mail servers do to talk to each other. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he received the ndr from our internal server. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
LOL!!! This is definitely a keeper! -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Amen. The other consideration you should look at is will you filter e-mails that are really business related, but for whatever reason appear to be spam. This blocks legitimate mail and could possibly lose you business. Example: Dear Sirs, My name is Dick Cheney and I am the President of a 18 year old company based in Sussex. Our company is a manufacturer of clothing and toys for young women and girls. We have two manufacturing facilities, one located in Essex and the other next to our offices Sussex. We also have 20 remote sales locations located around the world including Japan, Korea, Russia and the Philippines. Our Asian market is particularly important to us as they produce millions of dollars in revenue yearly!! We are looking to contact you about the possibilities of saving money on our manufacturing costs and enlarging our facilities. This would be a large investment on our part with the provider we choose and are looking to partner with someone for the long term. Could you please have one of your salespersons call us as soon as possible on this? I can be reached at 555-1212 anytime during the day. Thank you, Dick (I'll let you know how many filters I set off.) -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? I have evaluated Trend's E-Manager at one point in time. It works ok, but not as comprehensive or flexible as MailSweeper. Take a look at Praetor as well. Content filtering is a losing battle in my opinion. You will be chasing an ever so mobile optimum point where you block the most amount of spam while blocking the least amount of non-spam mail. The whole thing boils down to user education. The ONLY way you can reduce spam is to tell your users NOT to use their email accounts anywhere outside the organization. This means no comments to stories on CNN.com, no forwarding of chainmails, not using their corporate email id to bid on auctions on eBay etc. etc. Content filtering will buy you only so much. Without user education it'll just make spam a bigger headache for you. Your users will become triple frustrated when they receive spam when they know you have a content filtering package in place, and let me reassure you that no content filter is 100% accurate. Your users WILL receive uce even if you have the most aggressive filter in place. S. -Original Message- From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Hello all, We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I have searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the info I am after. We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I am very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues with E-Manager. I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of you using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job or a 5 hours a week (or more) task. Thanks very much, Ronni * The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. -Albert Einstein - _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
D@am that Dick Cheney! -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Peace hath higher tests of manhood / Than battle ever knew. --John Greenleaf Whittier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schwartz, Jim Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Amen. The other consideration you should look at is will you filter e-mails that are really business related, but for whatever reason appear to be spam. This blocks legitimate mail and could possibly lose you business. Example: Dear Sirs, My name is Dick Cheney and I am the President of a 18 year old company based in Sussex. Our company is a manufacturer of clothing and toys for young women and girls. We have two manufacturing facilities, one located in Essex and the other next to our offices Sussex. We also have 20 remote sales locations located around the world including Japan, Korea, Russia and the Philippines. Our Asian market is particularly important to us as they produce millions of dollars in revenue yearly!! We are looking to contact you about the possibilities of saving money on our manufacturing costs and enlarging our facilities. This would be a large investment on our part with the provider we choose and are looking to partner with someone for the long term. Could you please have one of your salespersons call us as soon as possible on this? I can be reached at 555-1212 anytime during the day. Thank you, Dick (I'll let you know how many filters I set off.) -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? I have evaluated Trend's E-Manager at one point in time. It works ok, but not as comprehensive or flexible as MailSweeper. Take a look at Praetor as well. Content filtering is a losing battle in my opinion. You will be chasing an ever so mobile optimum point where you block the most amount of spam while blocking the least amount of non-spam mail. The whole thing boils down to user education. The ONLY way you can reduce spam is to tell your users NOT to use their email accounts anywhere outside the organization. This means no comments to stories on CNN.com, no forwarding of chainmails, not using their corporate email id to bid on auctions on eBay etc. etc. Content filtering will buy you only so much. Without user education it'll just make spam a bigger headache for you. Your users will become triple frustrated when they receive spam when they know you have a content filtering package in place, and let me reassure you that no content filter is 100% accurate. Your users WILL receive uce even if you have the most aggressive filter in place. S. -Original Message- From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Hello all, We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I have searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the info I am after. We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I am very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues with E-Manager. I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of you using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job or a 5 hours a week (or more) task. Thanks very much, Ronni * The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. -Albert Einstein -
RE: Containers
Just use the recipients container. You will create a nightmare for your self if you do anything else. -Original Message- From: Sparrow, Teresa (GOT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Containers Wanting to gather information. In a large Exchange 5.5 environment organization would you place everyone in the recipients container or make different containers for organizational levels? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Containers
Put 'em all in one container. Use other containers to create DL's and CR's. - Original Message - From: Sparrow, Teresa (GOT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: Containers Wanting to gather information. In a large Exchange 5.5 environment organization would you place everyone in the recipients container or make different containers for organizational levels? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
Do I hear an AMEN! -- From: Martin Blackstone Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Friday, January 4, 2002 13:29 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? Better yet, block all .EXE files. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? What about the shake.exe file indicated in the message? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
messages in inbound queue
I'm running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on NT 4.0 SP6a. I have 3 messages that show up in the IMS inbound queue awaiting delivery. These are old messages from November. I'll like to remove these but have not been successful. I tried following Q193862 and deleted the file queue.dat and that did not fix it. Anyone with any ideas on clearing these old messages out of the queue. Thanks, Jeff Petschow College of DuPage _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message Journaling
Goodafternoon All, I have just been asked by my boss to implement message journaling on our Exchange 5.5/SP4 box. Can anyone provide any insight on pro's/con's and/or pitfalls to doing this? TIA Ron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
changing port
Hi Does anyone know how to change the port in Exchange Administrator. We want to change the port from port 25 to port 97. thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Front-end server problem
Hi all, I'm about to configure front-end servers for SMTP, but heard some pretty distressing news about that today. I heard that inetinfo will crash if the servers have any information stores of them, but since the stores generate delivery status msgs, you can't have the FE's as SMTP Gateways or the machine will start establishing TCP connections to itself indefinitely. Apparently there are Q articles out about this, but I haven't read them yet. I was curious to see who has tried to do this out in the field and what your experience has been like so far. TIA, Karen _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
I just confirmed with OAR.NET. I saw the SHAKE.EXE reference but wasn't clear if that was the attachment name. We're already blocking EXE's so we seem to be safe. Better safe than sorry! -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? What about the shake.exe file indicated in the message? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
I dunno, but you certainly won't hear Elves bowling... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! The legislature's job is to write law. It's the executive branch's job to interpret law. George W. Bush, Austin, Texas, Nov. 22, 2000 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Couch, Nate Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? Do I hear an AMEN! -- From: Martin Blackstone Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Friday, January 4, 2002 13:29 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? Better yet, block all .EXE files. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? What about the shake.exe file indicated in the message? Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New Virus ShakerWorld variant? I just got a message from OAR.NET referring to a virus alert. Still trying to find out more about it, but I thought I would post this just in case. Trying to find out more on this one to see if there is an attachment I can block. From: Jodi Santini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Virus Alert - W32/ShakerWorld Posted on notice.oar.net 1/4/02: Virus Alert: There is a variation of the W32/ShakerWorld virus making its way around the Internet. We are have not found information on this virus at Symantec or CERT yet, but this what we have learned thus far from our internal security folks which you will want to watch out for on your networks: o Random 8 char. file in the System directory o Shake.exe in email (MassMailer) o NetBIOS connections spreading virus to servers o Registry entry 'sysinfo' under the run statement. Note that we are seeing variants in the name of the key sysinforandom chars People who have been hit have gotten this virus thorugh email. This virus can install a key in the registry of the infected systems. This is the information we have received at this time. Thank You, Jodi Pete Pfefferkorn Senior Systems Engineer/Mail Administrator University of Cincinnati 51 Goodman Street Cincinnati, OH 45221 Phone - (513) 556-9076 Fax - (513) 556-2042 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Message Journaling
If your business requires you to do it, then you really don't have a choice. However if it's something that your boss thinks would be cool then you need to weigh your options. Basically, when you turn on journaling in Exchange 5.5, it forces all emails to go through the MTA, even the ones within the same server. So, it'll increase the load on your MTA. If you will be doing it on the server where all your mailboxes reside, you will essentially be keeping two copies of every message sent or received, so you may want to make sure that your IS has enough room to grow. This stress can be eliminated if you systematically archive/delete older stuff that is journaled. Still the million dollar question is, what is your boss hoping to accomplish? S. -Original Message- From: Network Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Message Journaling Goodafternoon All, I have just been asked by my boss to implement message journaling on our Exchange 5.5/SP4 box. Can anyone provide any insight on pro's/con's and/or pitfalls to doing this? TIA Ron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Message Journaling
This, along with your last question about scanning e-mail, leads me to believe that your boss is an e-mail Nazi. He wants to know what everyone is sending and receiving to anyone. Refer him to Ed Crowley's statement, There are seldom good technical solutions for behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: Network Issues [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Message Journaling Goodafternoon All, I have just been asked by my boss to implement message journaling on our Exchange 5.5/SP4 box. Can anyone provide any insight on pro's/con's and/or pitfalls to doing this? TIA Ron _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Containers
It's very difficult to move individuals between containers. Unless you have the power to keep people from changing jobs, use one contain for people, others for resources and whatnot. -- be - MOS Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must be first overcome. -- Dr. Johnson -Original Message- From: Sparrow, Teresa (GOT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Containers Wanting to gather information. In a large Exchange 5.5 environment organization would you place everyone in the recipients container or make different containers for organizational levels? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
Please think for a minute about consequences of this action. Port 25 is designated for SMTP traffic. If you try and change it to something else, you screw yourself basically. Unless of course, you are trying to change something else. Of course, we wouldn't know that because you didn't provide that information. If you would be so kind as to provide the information of what exactly you are trying to change in Exchange Administrator, perhaps we can be of more assistance, or at least tell you that what you are wanting to do can't be done. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: changing port Hi Does anyone know how to change the port in Exchange Administrator. We want to change the port from port 25 to port 97. thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: messages in inbound queue
The queue Inbound messages awaiting delivery are messages that have already been read from the file system, converted and placed in the store. Deleting queue.dat won't help a bit. If the delete button in the UI doens't work you'll need to use mdbvu32.exe to delete them There is an article on using this utility but beware: it is not for the faint of heart. - Original Message - From: Petschow, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: messages in inbound queue I'm running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on NT 4.0 SP6a. I have 3 messages that show up in the IMS inbound queue awaiting delivery. These are old messages from November. I'll like to remove these but have not been successful. I tried following Q193862 and deleted the file queue.dat and that did not fix it. Anyone with any ideas on clearing these old messages out of the queue. Thanks, Jeff Petschow College of DuPage _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Containers
Same container. Remember, you cant move accounts between containers, and org levels change daily. -Original Message- From: Sparrow, Teresa (GOT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Containers Wanting to gather information. In a large Exchange 5.5 environment organization would you place everyone in the recipients container or make different containers for organizational levels? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: messages in inbound queue
The Q article said to delete queue.dat so whoever wrote it doesn't know what they were doing. I thought I may have to use mdbvu32.exe but have never used it before. I'm moving everything to Exchange 2000 soon so maybe I'll just leave them out there for now. Thanks, Jeff -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: messages in inbound queue The queue Inbound messages awaiting delivery are messages that have already been read from the file system, converted and placed in the store. Deleting queue.dat won't help a bit. If the delete button in the UI doens't work you'll need to use mdbvu32.exe to delete them There is an article on using this utility but beware: it is not for the faint of heart. - Original Message - From: Petschow, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: messages in inbound queue I'm running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on NT 4.0 SP6a. I have 3 messages that show up in the IMS inbound queue awaiting delivery. These are old messages from November. I'll like to remove these but have not been successful. I tried following Q193862 and deleted the file queue.dat and that did not fix it. Anyone with any ideas on clearing these old messages out of the queue. Thanks, Jeff Petschow College of DuPage _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Orgainzational Form getting put in drafts folder
I have a form that I made some time ago. It had been working fine for some time and now when someone fills out the form and clicks send it goes to there drafts folder. I found that in the options for the email the option Do not deliver before: was checked with a date in the box. This had never been checked previously and I am the only one with publish ability. The strang this is I just made a copy of the form, deleted the one from the Organizational library, edited the saved form the orignal format without the options checked and republished it. Every time i publish it, it adds the date for some reason. I must be missing something, I just don't know if it is client or server side. Any ideas, Thanks, Marty _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
Hence my last question as to the amount of time spent pulling the good mail out of the filtered mail. I am already aware of many of the pitfalls of content filtering. Anything I didn't already know I learned through an experiment with the Outlook rules which resulted in noticible amounts of my list mail moving into the junk folder. Something about friggin lyris and fsck iirc. Ronni -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Amen. The other consideration you should look at is will you filter e-mails that are really business related, but for whatever reason appear to be spam. This blocks legitimate mail and could possibly lose you business. Example: snipped _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
I agree 100% with the second paragraph and 99% with the third. That 1% comes because we are a communications company and have no choice but to plaster many of our email addresses on TV screens or bylines on magazine articles, newspaper stories, and so on. We're having a big conference call next week to try and explain paragraphs two and three to some people throughout the company... We use the Trend suite (3.5x for av and content management), no major complaints. We're just starting to look at Interscan MSS for SMTP. If anyone using this new package would care to comment in fifty words or less, I'd sure appreciate it! Paul An aside... There's a huge diatribe here [1] http://www.ernieshouseofwhoopass.com/nospam.html on the subject of spam and uce. Some of it is good and some of it is bad; I used it as very rough outline and cleaned it up a little(ok, a *lot*) it is now the lead-in for our response to complaints. [1] Warning before you click- some of what you see and read is the kind of stuff that sets some people off when it appears in their inbox. It could also be the kind of stuff that sets some people off when it doesn't! ymmv -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? I have evaluated Trend's E-Manager at one point in time. It works ok, but not as comprehensive or flexible as MailSweeper. Take a look at Praetor as well. Content filtering is a losing battle in my opinion. You will be chasing an ever so mobile optimum point where you block the most amount of spam while blocking the least amount of non-spam mail. The whole thing boils down to user education. The ONLY way you can reduce spam is to tell your users NOT to use their email accounts anywhere outside the organization. This means no comments to stories on CNN.com, no forwarding of chainmails, not using their corporate email id to bid on auctions on eBay etc. etc. Content filtering will buy you only so much. Without user education it'll just make spam a bigger headache for you. Your users will become triple frustrated when they receive spam when they know you have a content filtering package in place, and let me reassure you that no content filter is 100% accurate. Your users WILL receive uce even if you have the most aggressive filter in place. S. -Original Message- From: Smith, Ronni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Hello all, We are looking at getting Trend's E-Manager content filter as an add on to our Scanmail a/v product to start screening out spam. If you have or are using E-Manager for Scanmail could you let me know if you would recommend for or against it and if there are any caveats I need to be aware of? I have searched my archives of this list for E-Manager and not found much other than some people who use it and one person who noted an issue but never mentioned what it turned out to be due to. I also searched just on content filtering and spam filtering among others but still didn't see all the info I am after. We are running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and ScanMail 3.5 on WinNT4 in a single domain. Although this quarter I plan to get the domain up to Win2k so if there are issues with Win2k I'd like to know that too. The price for E-Manager is in our range whereas Mailsweeper etc appear not to be and I am very happy with our Scanmail product but want to get a feel for any issues with E-Manager. I also am curious as to the time it takes to baby sit this. If those of you using content scanning software (particularly E-Manager but it's probably similar for all of them) could estimate how much time is required to sort out the non-spam mail that gets caught in the filters and see that it is forwarded on to the user it was intended for that would be a big help. I'm guessing that it takes a bit of tuning of the filters to minimize that but I've no idea if I'm talking about adding a 5 minutes a week task to my job or a 5 hours a week (or more) task. Thanks very much, Ronni * The pursuit of truth and beauty is a sphere of activity in which we are permitted to remain children all our lives. -Albert Einstein - _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL
RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity?
Then I would tell my managers that the amount of time it would take would be zero. I'm not qualified to decide what is and is not business related. Although if you want to send what ever you consider porn to me, I'll let you know what I think. ;-) -Original Message- From: Smith, Ronni [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Hence my last question as to the amount of time spent pulling the good mail out of the filtered mail. I am already aware of many of the pitfalls of content filtering. Anything I didn't already know I learned through an experiment with the Outlook rules which resulted in noticible amounts of my list mail moving into the junk folder. Something about friggin lyris and fsck iirc. Ronni -Original Message- From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Trend e-manager opinions/caveats/complexity? Amen. The other consideration you should look at is will you filter e-mails that are really business related, but for whatever reason appear to be spam. This blocks legitimate mail and could possibly lose you business. Example: snipped _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
I look forward to those who are sending you mail to connect to a port other than the RFC standard port 25 then. Or are you saying mail will still be received on port 25 to the Mail Marshall server and then forwarded off of port 97 to the Exchange server? D -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
MailMarshall doesn't include instructions on how to make the change? I'm disappointed. Anyway... There is no way to change it in the Exchange 5.5 admin, it is controlled by the services file in the \%system root%\drivers\etc directory. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
Well the straight stuff, be careful in here. On your exchange server go to the winnt\system32\drivers\etc folder. Edit the services file you will find here. Find the line for SMTP and change the port designation. Remember to stop and restart the IMC/IMS Done -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
He wants it to go: Internet--(25)Mailmarshall(97)-(97)IMS However what I would do it setup MM on another machine, then configure DNS with MX records of 10 MailMarshal 20 Exchange Then have MM forward mail to the Exhc server -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port I look forward to those who are sending you mail to connect to a port other than the RFC standard port 25 then. Or are you saying mail will still be received on port 25 to the Mail Marshall server and then forwarded off of port 97 to the Exchange server? D -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
Well, the poor Marshall hasn't been the same since Miss Kitty left town. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port MailMarshall doesn't include instructions on how to make the change? I'm disappointed. Anyway... There is no way to change it in the Exchange 5.5 admin, it is controlled by the services file in the \%system root%\drivers\etc directory. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis, Suhler Associates, Inc. by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
Actually a quick search found this: --- In MS Exchange's case you edit the TCP/IP services file (%SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\services). You will need to change the default TCP port number for SMTP to another free port number (e.g. port 97 is often available). --- On the MailMarshal website. http://www.cleane-mail.com/ Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port MailMarshall doesn't include instructions on how to make the change? I'm disappointed. Anyway... There is no way to change it in the Exchange 5.5 admin, it is controlled by the services file in the \%system root%\drivers\etc directory. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: messages in inbound queue
Q165505 Mike - Original Message - From: Petschow, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:39 PM Subject: RE: messages in inbound queue The Q article said to delete queue.dat so whoever wrote it doesn't know what they were doing. I thought I may have to use mdbvu32.exe but have never used it before. I'm moving everything to Exchange 2000 soon so maybe I'll just leave them out there for now. Thanks, Jeff -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: messages in inbound queue The queue Inbound messages awaiting delivery are messages that have already been read from the file system, converted and placed in the store. Deleting queue.dat won't help a bit. If the delete button in the UI doens't work you'll need to use mdbvu32.exe to delete them There is an article on using this utility but beware: it is not for the faint of heart. - Original Message - From: Petschow, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: messages in inbound queue I'm running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on NT 4.0 SP6a. I have 3 messages that show up in the IMS inbound queue awaiting delivery. These are old messages from November. I'll like to remove these but have not been successful. I tried following Q193862 and deleted the file queue.dat and that did not fix it. Anyone with any ideas on clearing these old messages out of the queue. Thanks, Jeff Petschow College of DuPage _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: changing port
Technet is a wonderful thing. Try it sometime. exchange SMTP port change yields Q173903 -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: changing port
It's also in Appendix A of the 4.2-Version Manual very nicely described... ...in the morning open your eyes not only for shaving...;-) Ricki -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2002 22:54 An: Exchange Discussions Betreff: RE: changing port Actually a quick search found this: --- In MS Exchange's case you edit the TCP/IP services file (%SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\services). You will need to change the default TCP port number for SMTP to another free port number (e.g. port 97 is often available). --- On the MailMarshal website. http://www.cleane-mail.com/ Aloha, -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port MailMarshall doesn't include instructions on how to make the change? I'm disappointed. Anyway... There is no way to change it in the Exchange 5.5 admin, it is controlled by the services file in the \%system root%\drivers\etc directory. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:31 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: changing port We are using Mail Marshall and the reason port 25 needs to be change is because Mail Marshall uses this port(97) for mail and sends mail to Exchange Server, instead of Exchange recieving it first. Mail Marshall is acting like a mail security gateway for Exchange. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: messages in inbound queue
Thanks for the Q, Mike. I will give it a try. Looks like it is what I need. Jeff -Original Message- From: Hoople [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: messages in inbound queue Q165505 Mike - Original Message - From: Petschow, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:39 PM Subject: RE: messages in inbound queue The Q article said to delete queue.dat so whoever wrote it doesn't know what they were doing. I thought I may have to use mdbvu32.exe but have never used it before. I'm moving everything to Exchange 2000 soon so maybe I'll just leave them out there for now. Thanks, Jeff -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: messages in inbound queue The queue Inbound messages awaiting delivery are messages that have already been read from the file system, converted and placed in the store. Deleting queue.dat won't help a bit. If the delete button in the UI doens't work you'll need to use mdbvu32.exe to delete them There is an article on using this utility but beware: it is not for the faint of heart. - Original Message - From: Petschow, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: messages in inbound queue I'm running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on NT 4.0 SP6a. I have 3 messages that show up in the IMS inbound queue awaiting delivery. These are old messages from November. I'll like to remove these but have not been successful. I tried following Q193862 and deleted the file queue.dat and that did not fix it. Anyone with any ideas on clearing these old messages out of the queue. Thanks, Jeff Petschow College of DuPage _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Virus ShakerWorld variant?
So has anyone actually seen this puppy in the wild? NAI states Low Risk. Curious... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Garrish, Robert B. http://vil.nai.com/vil/virusSummary.asp?virus_k=99291 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird Error
looking for that engagement ring she can't say NO to? -Original Message- From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error A 2-Carat D flawless would be sufficient down-payment for 1 year of my automated alt.clueless.boss forum. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he received the ndr from our internal server. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error That is the MSN sys admin message. They're not people you know, it's all computers talking to each other. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird Error Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown. MSN thought you'd like to know. -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Weird Error My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account. but this is the error message he received back. Why would this becoming from my System Administrator? Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960 MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1 3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis, Suhler Associates, Inc. by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange
