[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 10, 2006, at 11:20 PM, sparaig wrote: In more recent comment, Ken is back-pedaling on his opinion of TM research. Probably because it is so at odds with the research coming out on Buddhist meditation. No, I don't think that's it. It seems to have more to do with perceived credibility, i.e 'how seriously you take the research of someone who's selling you something'. It seems he was a little behind on the negative aspect of TM research simply because he was so happy to hear what they had to say (and he didn't realize it was really *what they were selling*). He did not take into account the inherent bias. Of course not. Chuckle. Unlike the highly-touted study that recently came out on Buddhist meditation? Guffaw. I'm of the opinion that TC ala TM and whatever state identified as [Buddhist term goes here] that is brought about by whatever most Buddhists are practicing are NOT the same physiological state, even if the superficial description sounds the same. Well, let's be clear, all that Buddhism is, is an enlightenment school (yes, there are some who distort that into a *religion*). There are many methods available in this enlightenment school. Since TM is essentially manasika-japa (mental mantric repetition) of the ishta-devata (personal deity) practice--if you want to see something similar, you should compare that to ishata-devata (or yidam practice as they call it in Tibetan) practice. It's considered a useful side-practice in these traditions. Interestingly, the practice KW uses in his anecdotal here's how to change your brain waves by doing different types of sama-dhi videotape is--you guessed it-- Yidam practice. Uh-hu. And we can tell this with a 2-channel EEG as he used? But really there are numerous practices which should produce this dualistic witness eeg artifact. I was able to produce the same effect on a 24 channel eeg, just by doing my ishta practice. And you had access to this 24-channel EEG machine where? Drealization due to traumatic stress in early childhood seems to involve an immature emotional side of the brain, combined with a normal intellectual side. The Buddhist state appears to involve a normal emotional side combined with an overdeveloped intellectual side. Both appear to involve intellectual witnessing of What Goes On. Well, there are no easy answers. My observation would be that different styles of Buddhist meditation produce different styles of brain output. That's all. You might want to consider that we've been conditioned (through our exposure to TM literature and PR) to believe that certain physiological correlates are good when they're really merely representational of the method of meditation being used! That might be. TC due to TM, on the other hand, involves holistic functioning of the various parts of the brain on both sides, as though thoughts were fluctuations of a background state of attention-switching. Since TM-style ishta practice is based on peaceful ishtas (who are generally understood in meditative traditions to induce transcendence), it would be interesting to see research done also on other types of ishata-devatas. Heh. Personally, for me, I'll use an ishta that is appropriate for my own state of mind or my own situtation. Confusion? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tantric Sexual Practices (was Urdhva-retas?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/6/06 7:26 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But now we do have some insight into the technical aspects I was referring to. Since we now have the input from Rick that M. could not retain his bindu--aka his retas (semen)--he was clearly (by definition of the practice of urdhva-retas) not performing that practice. I was not the source of that information. Ned Wynn was, from his discussions with Jennifer and possibly Judith. Obviously a well-documented bit of testimony... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies? Ayur Veda, Yagya or Joitish studies? Are these aspects marketed separately or are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking? Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e. Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique? I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she tried to correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of regular, non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes were in worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don¹t think it was ever published. ** Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of our newsletter. http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html http://snipurl.com/rmeo Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News
I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she tried to correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of regular, non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes were in worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don¹t think it was ever published. Thanks Bob, I think this is an area that can be tested. Specific claims deserve specific proof. Curtis --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies? Ayur Veda, Yagya or Joitish studies? Are these aspects marketed separately or are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking? Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e. Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique? I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she tried to correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of regular, non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes were in worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don¹t think it was ever published. ** Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of our newsletter. http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html http://snipurl.com/rmeo Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Intentionally Intending...'/'Be There Light'
St. Germaine's Message for June 11th...Keep the light on inside your heart, for this message comes to you foryour growth as a light worker. Keeping at bay the darkness is a taskeach of you must take seriously as you depart old ways on Earth.Blessing all you have is a start to keep darkness from permeating theLight in your homes, other dwellings, offices or places of work,vehicles and other spaces of your choosing. Where do you frequent?Are you still afraid to go into any of those places? Are you afraidof someone or other hurting you psychically or physically there? Thenyou have cast your shadow of doubt or fear and projected the same ontothose places.Try this instead. See the Triple Violet Flame near and in thoseplaces. Keep all spirits of unkindness from your dwellings, etc, byimagining the cool flame of violet color purging and clarifying thosespirits from inside and being balanced as they were not before yourvision. It assumes you wish to be purged yourself of all untowardthoughts of judgment and other unkindness. Pleasant thoughtsaccompany such a vision, and your Infinite Wisdom will grant youimmunity from fear and its consequences with the Violet Flame.The transmutation of darkness to loving Light is a constant if youpractice this simple vision. Take my hand as I explain the differencebetween darkness and Light. The former is not of the Light, and assuch it takes energy from you to infuse the Light where it was not.As your intention drives Light into a space from which you vieweddarkness (or otherwise sensed it) the darkness does not escape intothin air, so to speak. It is transformed into the Light of yourintention. Keeping the Light on in your heart space will take thedarkness to new heights of loving glory where it resides as Lightforever. This you do with the intention of Love.Being in darkness for a while has strengthened you as an individualwho is part of the Heavenly Whole. Your strength is called upon asyou ask for the Violet Flame to be present in any circumstance. Itspower is then used for telling the dark that it is no longer neededfor your learning, and you take command of lessening the darkness onthe planet for others to follow your example. Richness of Lightensues, and your space or dwelling is for a time blessed with totalLight until you invade the space with chosen thoughts of darkness.Upon reentering your space, simply call upon the Violet Flame totransform the darkness to Light each time, until this becomes a habit.It pleases me to be of help to you on this matter.As told by kings and prophets, the Violet Flame is a balancing deviceof great power. It is the combination of the Great Blue Flame of theFather, and the Pink Crystalline Light of the Mother, which togethermakes the Violet Flame one of perfect balance. The off-balance natureof darkness is then balanced perfectly, rendering it powerless in theLight, and taking it to its rightful destination in the heavens.Blessing the dwellings has the power to change the internal structureof the walls, ceiling and floors. Take the moment to speak its nameand the Violet Flame leaps to its duty to guard you with its immensepower. It is yours to use anytime day or night, and command itsfriendship in any situation of fear. Please avail yourself of thismonumental gesture of kindness from the Universe to your for yourliving well on the planet. Amen, and so it is. I AM ST. Germaine ofthe Violet Flame Brotherhood. All is well.Just Channelingshttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/justchannelings __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] What a mantra?!
Anyone familiar with this mantra: NAMO BHAGAWATI/ PRAGYA PARAMITAYE/ OM NA TA TATITHA/ ILISHI ILISHI MILISHI MILISHI BINAYAN BINAYAN / NAMO BHAGAWATI PRATAYANG PRATI/ IRIDHI/ IRIDHI/ MIRIDHI/ MIRIDHI/ SHIRIDHI/ SHIRIDHI/ USHIRI/ USHIRI/ BUIYE/ BUIYE SWAHA Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this out as it is synonymous with Transcendental Knowing (jnana, jJAna). Vaj, the HK -transliteration for the palatal nasal as 'J' is rather misleading. I'd prefer 'ñ' instead, because I gather quite a many people are familiar with the Spanish pronunciation. So in this case, 'jñAna' or 'jñaana'. I believe the pronunciation of the combination 'jñ' varies according to what region of India the pronunciator comes from. I think the pronunciation 'gy(a)' is typical in northern India. Interestingly in Kashmir Shaivite literature they see Pratibha as synonymous with Paravac--transcendental, non-dual telepathic speech. This is interesting because it shows that everyone has the natural experience of the transcendent (vac). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What a mantra?!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone familiar with this mantra: NAMO BHAGAWATI/ PRAGYA PARAMITAYE/ OM NA TA TATITHA/ ILISHI ILISHI MILISHI MILISHI BINAYAN BINAYAN / NAMO BHAGAWATI PRATAYANG PRATI/ IRIDHI/ IRIDHI/ MIRIDHI/ MIRIDHI/ SHIRIDHI/ SHIRIDHI/ USHIRI/ USHIRI/ BUIYE/ BUIYE SWAHA Close. It's one letter off from my mantra. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 10, 2006, at 4:04 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I don't think of intuition as in the woo woo category. Premonition crosses that line for me. Or the claim that one's intuitions are always right. Intuition for me includes pattern recognition but it includes other unconscious process that are not too well understood, although commonly experienced. They give a non-verbal sense about something before the conscious mind catches up. With so much sensory information going in, and only a small fraction consciously processed, it doesn't surprise me that we can feel something before we can clearly articulate it. This is more than pattern recognition but a long way from woo woo! If woo woo has anything to do with Pure Consciousness, there's a definite connection between woo woo and intuition. PC entails creating a LOT of new, global connections in the brain. Intuion entails making use of novel connections in the brain, according to most neurological theories about it. And the Sanskrit word for intutition, Pratibha (prAtibha), The verb /pratibhaa/ from which the noun /praatibha/ is derived, means primarily 'to shine[bhaa] upon[prati]'. And /praatibha/ as such or together with /jñaanam/ means 'intuitive knowledge' (praatibhaM jñaanam). does bear this out as it is synonymous with Transcendental Knowing (jnana, jJAna). Interestingly in Kashmir Shaivite literature they see Pratibha as synonymous with Paravac--transcendental, non-dual telepathic speech. This is interesting because it shows that everyone has the natural experience of the transcendent (vac). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Kansas- Field of Bad Dreams?'
So far, it seems like I have noticed newspaper, after newspaper pick up this negative story, about the TM'ers, supposedly creating harmony, and instead creating disharmony in the quiet fundementalist fields of Kansas. I say sell out fast and put the money into a better publicity campaign... Any advertizement is better than this; It never fails, As soon as the movement gets some motion; Something happens to embarrass it in some way. Who might this devil be?? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of our newsletter. http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html http://snipurl.com/rmeo Can't find the article or any recent mention of the journal online either via pubmed or google scholar. The founding editor apparently retired recently, so it may have been discontinued. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Sending Out an S.O.S. for Kansas'
Now is the time, for all meditators; To gather their thoughts, and good wishes; Towards this Titantic-Like project in Kansas. With a little momentum, in a positive direction, Perhaps we can bring peace and harmony to the- Geographical center of the crazy United States, just perhaps.. We can join together, in the deepest recesses of our meditation; Remember Kansas, the tall wheat fields, the pure bliss consciousness. The purple and yellow rainbow in the sky. The feeling of the U.S. reagaining it's heart and soul. Come on brother's and sister's of the TM movement. We can save this Titantic, through pure thought energy alone And God save the Queen.. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Sending Out an S.O.S. for Kansas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now is the time, for all meditators;
To gather their thoughts, and good wishes;
Towards this Titantic-Like project in Kansas.
With a little momentum, in a positive direction,
Perhaps we can bring peace and harmony to the-
Geographical center of the crazy United States, just perhaps..
We can join together, in the deepest recesses of our meditation;
Remember Kansas, the tall wheat fields, the pure bliss
consciousness.
The purple and yellow rainbow in the sky.
The feeling of the U.S. reagaining it's heart and soul.
Come on brother's and sister's of the TM movement.
We can save this Titantic, through pure thought energy alone
And God save the Queen..
Well, whadya know, this morning my now-and-then -nish
/maitrii/ [my-tree] seemed especially power full! :)
2 maitrI f. friendship , friendliness , benevolence , good will (one
of the 4 perfect states with Buddhists Dharmas. 16 ; cf. MWB. 128)
MBh. Ka1v. c. ; Benevolence personified (as the daughter of Daksha
and wife of Dharma) BhP. ; close contact or union Megh. Vcar. ;
(ifc.) equality , similarity Prasannar. ; N. of the Nakshatra
Anura1dha1 L. ; N. of an Upanishad (cf. under %{maitri}).
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News
--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she tried to correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of regular, non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes were in worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don�t think it was ever published. Thanks Bob, I think this is an area that can be tested. Specific claims deserve specific proof. Curtis It was a quick and dirty study not fit for publishing because it was a self-report survey! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies? Ayur Veda, Yagya or Joitish studies? Are these aspects marketed separately or are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking? Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e. Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique? I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she tried to correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of regular, non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes were in worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don�t think it was ever published. ** Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of our newsletter. http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html http://snipurl.com/rmeo Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away.� Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip [I wrote:] The thing with people like Kurtz, I suspect, is that his predisposition to dismiss astrology (and other such endeavors) has kept him from examining what *good* astrology looks like. In effect, at least partly, he's dismissing a straw man. That wouldn't surprise me. I think it is up to astrology to present a better case or show an interest in good studies. The arrogance of the position that we already know it is true so we don't have to prove it to you is a problem in many fields, some claiming to be scientific. Paul may be placing the burden of proof on others to present claims in a way that is falsifiable. Why should Paul accept astrology if no strong and valid studies have been presented? Just very quickly, while my sister is giving me a chnce to use her computer--I wasn't suggesting he should *accept* it; I wouldn't expect him ever to do that. I meant that if he were looking at *good* astrology, he'd need to make a more sophisticated case for dismissing it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News
Did the next issue ever come out? And if so, what did it have to say about the research? I couldn't find anything. Sal On Jun 11, 2006, at 12:26 AM, bob_brigante wrote: Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of our newsletter. http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html http://snipurl.com/rmeo
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Sending Out an S.O.S. for Kansas'
In a message dated 6/11/06 5:42:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now is the time, for all meditators;To gather their thoughts, and good wishes;Towards this Titantic-Like project in Kansas.With a little momentum, in a positive direction,Perhaps we can bring peace and harmony to the-Geographical center of the crazy United States, just perhaps..We can join together, in the deepest recesses of our meditation;Remember Kansas, the tall wheat fields, the pure bliss consciousness.The purple and yellow rainbow in the sky.The feeling of the U.S. reagaining it's heart and soul.Come on brother's and sister's of the TM movement.We can save this Titantic, through pure thought energy aloneAnd God save the Queen.. Actually you had me until the last line. I realize it's your poetry, but "God save the Queen"? I think"And thank you for your support" would go better. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 10, 2006, at 10:30 PM, sparaig wrote: [...] Wilber seems to like Skip's work, BTW. Actually him and Skip were in intimate communication up to his untimely death. His work The Eye of Spirit : An Integral Vision for a World Gone Slightly Mad (Wilber talks of different eyes: the eye of flesh, the eye of contemplation (our meditational eye) and the eye of spirit, the eye of pervasive unity) has sections which talk of Skip's work. Interestingly KW also shares my own opinion that GC in Skip's/MMY's model of higher states of consciousness is not truly a state, but a stage. In fact, in the source texts that the 7 states of consciosness derive from, it is not seen as a sequence... I don't think MMY ever presented it as a strict sequence, either. Its more like one can't have an episode of GC without some element of CC present. Likewise with UC depending on the presence of GC amd therefore on CC as well. As I understand it, CC, GC, UC (etc.) refer to specific types of experience at certain points along a continuum of experience. I'm not sure of the distinction Vaj is making between state and stage, but again in my understanding there would be points along the continuum of development of consciousness at which each of these types of experience becomes permanent. These points would be sequential in the sense that permanent UC would not be achieved until after permanent GC had been achieved, and permanent GC would not occur until after permanent CC had been achieved. This does *not* mean that one cannot have experiences of UC before even permanent CC has been achieved, and so on. So in that sense they aren't sequential; they're sequential in terms of the order in which each becomes permanent, in my understanding of what MMY teaches. It has also seemed to me that the points along the continuum MMY refers to as GC and UC may have been more or less arbitrarily chosen. It's not as obvious with GC/UC but it seems impossible that one could have an experience of seeing the Self in perceptual reality without being aware of the Self internally as well. Seeing the outside as the inside without seeing the inside seems, well, silly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News
3 out of 4 dentists surveyed prefer Crest! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she tried to correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of regular, non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes were in worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don�t think it was ever published. Thanks Bob, I think this is an area that can be tested. Specific claims deserve specific proof. Curtis It was a quick and dirty study not fit for publishing because it was a self-report survey! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 6/7/06 10:20 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: This post got me wondering: Are there any Vastu studies? Ayur Veda, Yagya or Joitish studies? Are these aspects marketed separately or are they mentioned on the 3rd day of checking? Are these programs marketed solely on the premise of authority, i.e. Vedic tradition, or is there any attempt to give it the same scientific legitimacy claimed by the TM technique? I heard that Dr. Veronica Butler once did a study in which she tried to correlate health and other statistics with the orientation of regular, non-SV houses in FF. IOW, to see if people in north-facing homes were in worse shape than those in east-facing homes. I don�t think it was ever published. ** Dr. Veronica Butler's presented her peer-reviewed research on the effects of orientation upon quality of life measurements. Her work is some of the groundbreaking research that is thus far validating the ancient recommendations in the system of Maharishi Vedic architecture. We will highlight her findings in the next issue of our newsletter. http://vedicarchitecture.org/ezine/2004_11.html http://snipurl.com/rmeo Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away.� Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As I understand it, CC, GC, UC (etc.) refer to specific types of experience at certain points along a continuum of experience. I'm not sure of the distinction Vaj is making between state and stage, but again in my understanding there would be points along the continuum of development of consciousness at which each of these types of experience becomes permanent. These points would be sequential in the sense that permanent UC would not be achieved until after permanent GC had been achieved, and permanent GC would not occur until after permanent CC had been achieved. This does *not* mean that one cannot have experiences of UC before even permanent CC has been achieved, and so on. So in that sense they aren't sequential; they're sequential in terms of the order in which each becomes permanent, in my understanding of what MMY teaches. Yes, that is my understanding based on my experience also. By culturing the nervous system through TM and TM-Sidhis alternating with activity, our physiology becomes refined to do exactly as you say above; each state (CC, GC, UC) becomes a permanent stepping stone to the next one above it. Also as you say, we can have intermittent experiences of advanced states before they are permanent. You are absolutely correct. I was confused by this sequencing at first, and posted here awhile back that I didn't think any of these states were permanent, but instead, accessible at any time. However this perception was due to my normal experience of just continuing to function in the 'here and now', even once CC, GC and UC had fully ripened. For example if I want to see angels, I can see angels. However there are very few circumstances where this is of practical value, or even desirable for me, so I tend not to 'turn on' or use this ability very often. And yet it is now a permanent fixture of my physiological functioning. More often, my desires are those of everyday life, and so the hallmarks or guideposts of CC, GC, and UC go unnoticed. It should also be said, that although this is the case, the culturing of CC, GC and UC as permanently accessible states greatly enhances the ability for my everyday desires to be nearly effortlessly fulfilled. Obviously none of this is new to us, or unique to me. It is just a wonderful experience to have been taught something for so many years, and then be able to verify it experientially. As I often say, 'what a trip!'. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
On Jun 11, 2006, at 1:25 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 10, 2006, at 11:20 PM, sparaig wrote:In more recent comment, Ken is back-pedaling on his opinion of TM research. Probably because it is so at odds with the research coming out on Buddhist meditation. No, I don't think that's it. It seems to have more to do with perceived credibility, i.e 'how seriously you take the research of someone who's selling you something'. It seems he was a little behind on the negative aspect of TM research simply because he was so happy to hear what they had to say (and he didn't realize it was really *what they were selling*). He did not take into account the inherent bias. Of course not. Chuckle. Unlike the highly-touted study that recently came out on Buddhist meditation? Guffaw.If you're referring to the recent study I'm thinking about, it came out years after KW's book.KW is in touch with the leader of the Shamatha studies meditative instruction ans has done a couple of long interviews on Integral Naked. I emailed him a month or so ago and told him It'd really be cool to see this research and continuum of practice featured at the Integral Institute. I'm of the opinion that TC ala TM and whatever state identified as [Buddhist term goes here] that is brought about by whatever most Buddhists are practicing are NOT the same physiological state, even if the superficial description sounds the same. Well, let's be clear, all that "Buddhism" is, is an enlightenment school (yes, there are some who distort that into a *religion*). There are many methods available in this enlightenment school. Since TM is essentially manasika-japa (mental mantric repetition) of the ishta-devata (personal deity) practice--if you want to see something similar, you should compare that to ishata-devata (or "yidam" practice as they call it in Tibetan) practice. It's considered a useful side-practice in these traditions. Interestingly, the practice KW uses in his anecdotal "here's how to change your brain waves by doing different types of sama-dhi" videotape is--you guessed it-- Yidam practice. Uh-hu. And we can tell this with a 2-channel EEG as he used? But really there are numerous practices which should produce this dualistic "witness" eeg artifact. I was able to produce the same effect on a 24 channel eeg, just by doing my ishta practice. And you had access to this 24-channel EEG machine where? Drealization due to traumatic stress in early childhood seems to involve an immature emotional side of the brain, combined with a normal intellectual side. The Buddhist state appears to involve a normal emotional side combined with an overdeveloped intellectual side. Both appear to involve intellectual witnessing of What Goes On. Well, there are no easy answers. My observation would be that different styles of Buddhist meditation produce different styles of brain output. That's all. You might want to consider that we've been conditioned (through our exposure to TM literature and PR) to believe that certain physiological correlates are "good" when they're really merely representational of the method of meditation being used! That might be.TC due to TM, on the other hand, involves holistic functioning of the various parts of the brain on both sides, as though thoughts were fluctuations of a background state of attention-switching. Since TM-style ishta practice is based on "peaceful ishtas" (who are generally understood in meditative traditions to induce transcendence), it would be interesting to see research done also on other types of ishata-devatas. Heh.?? Personally, for me, I'll use an ishta that is appropriate for my own state of mind or my own situtation. Confusion? Balance and evenness. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NYC TM News on 6/11/06 9:23 AM, curtisdeltablues at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 out of 4 dentists surveyed prefer Crest! Reminds me of a line from Friends: Rachel: You guys, guess what guess what guess what? Chandler: What, the fifth dentist caved and now they're all recommending trident? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
If you don't mind me asking...do these states include performance of siddhis as MMY claims? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip As I understand it, CC, GC, UC (etc.) refer to specific types of experience at certain points along a continuum of experience. I'm not sure of the distinction Vaj is making between state and stage, but again in my understanding there would be points along the continuum of development of consciousness at which each of these types of experience becomes permanent. These points would be sequential in the sense that permanent UC would not be achieved until after permanent GC had been achieved, and permanent GC would not occur until after permanent CC had been achieved. This does *not* mean that one cannot have experiences of UC before even permanent CC has been achieved, and so on. So in that sense they aren't sequential; they're sequential in terms of the order in which each becomes permanent, in my understanding of what MMY teaches. Yes, that is my understanding based on my experience also. By culturing the nervous system through TM and TM-Sidhis alternating with activity, our physiology becomes refined to do exactly as you say above; each state (CC, GC, UC) becomes a permanent stepping stone to the next one above it. Also as you say, we can have intermittent experiences of advanced states before they are permanent. You are absolutely correct. I was confused by this sequencing at first, and posted here awhile back that I didn't think any of these states were permanent, but instead, accessible at any time. However this perception was due to my normal experience of just continuing to function in the 'here and now', even once CC, GC and UC had fully ripened. For example if I want to see angels, I can see angels. However there are very few circumstances where this is of practical value, or even desirable for me, so I tend not to 'turn on' or use this ability very often. And yet it is now a permanent fixture of my physiological functioning. More often, my desires are those of everyday life, and so the hallmarks or guideposts of CC, GC, and UC go unnoticed. It should also be said, that although this is the case, the culturing of CC, GC and UC as permanently accessible states greatly enhances the ability for my everyday desires to be nearly effortlessly fulfilled. Obviously none of this is new to us, or unique to me. It is just a wonderful experience to have been taught something for so many years, and then be able to verify it experientially. As I often say, 'what a trip!'. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
On Jun 11, 2006, at 3:36 AM, cardemaister wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this out as it is synonymous with Transcendental Knowing (jnana, jJAna). Vaj, the HK -transliteration for the palatal nasal as 'J' is rather misleading.I agree. Personally I prefer diacritical Sanskrit, but usually won't take the time to do the key combinations. HK's kinda funky. I'd prefer 'ñ' instead, because I gather quite a many people are familiar with the Spanish pronunciation. So in this case, 'jñAna' or 'jñaana'. I believe the pronunciation of the combination 'jñ' varies according to what region of India the pronunciator comes from. I think the pronunciation 'gy(a)' is typical in northern India. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Intentionally Intending...'/'Be There Light'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Maybe the new people (the Indigoes) are coming in with this preinstalled on their hard drives ? N. St. Germaine's Message for June 11th... Keep the light on inside your heart, for this message comes to you for your growth as a light worker. Keeping at bay the darkness is a task each of you must take seriously as you depart old ways on Earth. Blessing all you have is a start to keep darkness from permeating the Light in your homes, other dwellings, offices or places of work, vehicles and other spaces of your choosing. Where do you frequent? Are you still afraid to go into any of those places? Are you afraid of someone or other hurting you psychically or physically there? Then you have cast your shadow of doubt or fear and projected the same onto those places. Try this instead. See the Triple Violet Flame near and in those places. Keep all spirits of unkindness from your dwellings, etc, by imagining the cool flame of violet color purging and clarifying those spirits from inside and being balanced as they were not before your vision. It assumes you wish to be purged yourself of all untoward thoughts of judgment and other unkindness. Pleasant thoughts accompany such a vision, and your Infinite Wisdom will grant you immunity from fear and its consequences with the Violet Flame. The transmutation of darkness to loving Light is a constant if you practice this simple vision. Take my hand as I explain the difference between darkness and Light. The former is not of the Light, and as such it takes energy from you to infuse the Light where it was not. As your intention drives Light into a space from which you viewed darkness (or otherwise sensed it) the darkness does not escape into thin air, so to speak. It is transformed into the Light of your intention. Keeping the Light on in your heart space will take the darkness to new heights of loving glory where it resides as Light forever. This you do with the intention of Love. Being in darkness for a while has strengthened you as an individual who is part of the Heavenly Whole. Your strength is called upon as you ask for the Violet Flame to be present in any circumstance. Its power is then used for telling the dark that it is no longer needed for your learning, and you take command of lessening the darkness on the planet for others to follow your example. Richness of Light ensues, and your space or dwelling is for a time blessed with total Light until you invade the space with chosen thoughts of darkness. Upon reentering your space, simply call upon the Violet Flame to transform the darkness to Light each time, until this becomes a habit. It pleases me to be of help to you on this matter. As told by kings and prophets, the Violet Flame is a balancing device of great power. It is the combination of the Great Blue Flame of the Father, and the Pink Crystalline Light of the Mother, which together makes the Violet Flame one of perfect balance. The off-balance nature of darkness is then balanced perfectly, rendering it powerless in the Light, and taking it to its rightful destination in the heavens. Blessing the dwellings has the power to change the internal structure of the walls, ceiling and floors. Take the moment to speak its name and the Violet Flame leaps to its duty to guard you with its immense power. It is yours to use anytime day or night, and command its friendship in any situation of fear. Please avail yourself of this monumental gesture of kindness from the Universe to your for your living well on the planet. Amen, and so it is. I AM ST. Germaine of the Violet Flame Brotherhood. All is well. Just Channelings http://groups.yahoo.com/group/justchannelings __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip As I understand it, CC, GC, UC (etc.) refer to specific types of experience at certain points along a continuum of experience. I'm not sure of the distinction Vaj is making between state and stage, but again in my understanding there would be points along the continuum of development of consciousness at which each of these types of experience becomes permanent. These points would be sequential in the sense that permanent UC would not be achieved until after permanent GC had been achieved, and permanent GC would not occur until after permanent CC had been achieved. This does *not* mean that one cannot have experiences of UC before even permanent CC has been achieved, and so on. So in that sense they aren't sequential; they're sequential in terms of the order in which each becomes permanent, in my understanding of what MMY teaches. Yes, that is my understanding based on my experience also. By culturing the nervous system through TM and TM-Sidhis alternating with activity, our physiology becomes refined to do exactly as you say above; each state (CC, GC, UC) becomes a permanent stepping stone to the next one above it. Also as you say, we can have intermittent experiences of advanced states before they are permanent. You are absolutely correct. Well, good! I still think part of the confusion about all this has to do with the arbitrariness of the points that are identified as GC and UC (CC is a different case). In other words, MMY identifies, for example, the GC point as the set of experiences D, E, and F; but he could just as well have chosen a point a little farther along the continuum and defined it as the set of experiences E, F, and G. My guess is he chose the GC point as he did simply because experiences E, F, and G happen to have a sort of logical coherence for explanatory purposes. (Same for UC and points beyond.) Not that any of these are really discrete points; it's just a matter of focusing somewhere on the continuum and taking a snapshot, as it were, and then identifying the types of experiences that show up in the snapshot. Not that the experiences are discrete, either...it's sort of like taxonomy, where the lines between species can be quite blurred; we impose the system that distinguishes them for our own convenience. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A couple of adjectives! : )
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Not that any of these are really discrete points; it's just a matter of focusing somewhere on the continuum and taking a snapshot, as it were, and then identifying the types of experiences that show up in the snapshot. Not that the experiences are discrete, either...it's sort of like taxonomy, where the lines between species can be quite blurred; we impose the system that distinguishes them for our own convenience. I suspect that these points aren't really that arbitrary from a physiological point of view (if they're really major states of consciousness this MUST be the case in some measurable sense). Different parts of the brain are involved with different modes of our life. CC apparently primarily involves PC within the frontal lobes of the brain. GC, I would guess, involves furher integration with the more emotional mid-brain while UC/BC involves integration with the perceptual centers at the back. This also explains the order thing. Integration of the front and back [probably] can't happen without the middle being integrated first or at least, simultaneously. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't mind me asking...do these states include performance of siddhis as MMY claims? This would be a lot easier to answer if you could provide the exact quote about this from Maharishi. The thing about a lot of what Maharishi says, it is has been poorly interpreted by those around him. Some of it is also open to multiple interpretations. Regarding my personal experience, I had very good results with the Sidhis, especially with regard to sight, and flying, as I recall. I no longer practice the sutras, but I did gain the ability for example when necessary to see into my or other bodies, watching muscles, connective tissue, bones, blood flow, energy patterns, etc. What I have come to realize with regard to Sidhis, special abilities, is that once we have developed such things, we can most effectively use them when there is a need. For example, my fiance and I were roller skating about three months ago. She fell badly and fractured her tailbone. She was lying down in a great deal of pain before we left the rink. I naturally became aware of a lot of blocked, blackish-green energy near the base of her spine. Also the many tears in her muscles and large amount of blood plasma beneath the skin. By working at that level, I was able to create a situation where she was much improved, though still in a lot of pain when we reached the emergency room. She was not aware of what I was doing prior to that because we weren't speaking. But later, without me sharing any details of what I had done she described it to me, and her description was accurate. The point being here, is that Sidhis are like any other ability living things develop- we learn to walk, to talk, and if fortunate, to do Sidhis. But all of this when necessary; we don't try to walk while in bed, or talk when swimming underwater, or do Sidhis just because we can. (Of course we can do all of those things if we want to, but it is a waste of time...). Does that answer your question? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip As I understand it, CC, GC, UC (etc.) refer to specific types of experience at certain points along a continuum of experience. I'm not sure of the distinction Vaj is making between state and stage, but again in my understanding there would be points along the continuum of development of consciousness at which each of these types of experience becomes permanent. These points would be sequential in the sense that permanent UC would not be achieved until after permanent GC had been achieved, and permanent GC would not occur until after permanent CC had been achieved. This does *not* mean that one cannot have experiences of UC before even permanent CC has been achieved, and so on. So in that sense they aren't sequential; they're sequential in terms of the order in which each becomes permanent, in my understanding of what MMY teaches. Yes, that is my understanding based on my experience also. By culturing the nervous system through TM and TM-Sidhis alternating with activity, our physiology becomes refined to do exactly as you say above; each state (CC, GC, UC) becomes a permanent stepping stone to the next one above it. Also as you say, we can have intermittent experiences of advanced states before they are permanent. You are absolutely correct. Well, good! I still think part of the confusion about all this has to do with the arbitrariness of the points that are identified as GC and UC (CC is a different case). In other words, MMY identifies, for example, the GC point as the set of experiences D, E, and F; but he could just as well have chosen a point a little farther along the continuum and defined it as the set of experiences E, F, and G. My guess is he chose the GC point as he did simply because experiences E, F, and G happen to have a sort of logical coherence for explanatory purposes. (Same for UC and points beyond.) Its tough for me to say very much about CC, because there is nothing there to really grab onto or discuss; more of a binary experience, its either there or it isn't. And UC is similar in the experience itself, also either being there or not, though UC distiguishes itself oddly by its extent. In other words, I can be in UC 100%, up to this point or that point (LOL)... So the state in which it is easiest for me personally to talk about is GC, because the criterion is so unambiguous; experiencing the finest relative. Having grown into such an experience, I can see now why he has chosen the criterion he did, and why it is a concrete indicator of such a state. Also, why that criterion clearly distinguishes GC as a state unto itself. Not that any of these are really discrete points; it's just a matter of focusing somewhere on the continuum and taking a snapshot, as it were, and then identifying the types of experiences that show up in the snapshot. Very definitely a continuum. uu...lol! Not that the experiences are discrete, either... Actually the experiences are unmistakably discrete. it's sort of like taxonomy, where the lines between species can be quite blurred; we impose the system that distinguishes them for our own convenience. True- on the one hand it is a choice to develop the system that fits the best for us, and on the other hand, it is completely valid and instructionally helpful to do so. Much more immediately useful than the taxonomy of species, btw... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
Thanks, that is fascinating. The point being here, is that Sidhis are like any other ability living things develop- we learn to walk, to talk, and if fortunate, to do Sidhis. Most of the ones I remember were supernormal abilities. I really appreciate your openness about your personal experiences. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: If you don't mind me asking...do these states include performance of siddhis as MMY claims? This would be a lot easier to answer if you could provide the exact quote about this from Maharishi. The thing about a lot of what Maharishi says, it is has been poorly interpreted by those around him. Some of it is also open to multiple interpretations. Regarding my personal experience, I had very good results with the Sidhis, especially with regard to sight, and flying, as I recall. I no longer practice the sutras, but I did gain the ability for example when necessary to see into my or other bodies, watching muscles, connective tissue, bones, blood flow, energy patterns, etc. What I have come to realize with regard to Sidhis, special abilities, is that once we have developed such things, we can most effectively use them when there is a need. For example, my fiance and I were roller skating about three months ago. She fell badly and fractured her tailbone. She was lying down in a great deal of pain before we left the rink. I naturally became aware of a lot of blocked, blackish-green energy near the base of her spine. Also the many tears in her muscles and large amount of blood plasma beneath the skin. By working at that level, I was able to create a situation where she was much improved, though still in a lot of pain when we reached the emergency room. She was not aware of what I was doing prior to that because we weren't speaking. But later, without me sharing any details of what I had done she described it to me, and her description was accurate. The point being here, is that Sidhis are like any other ability living things develop- we learn to walk, to talk, and if fortunate, to do Sidhis. But all of this when necessary; we don't try to walk while in bed, or talk when swimming underwater, or do Sidhis just because we can. (Of course we can do all of those things if we want to, but it is a waste of time...). Does that answer your question? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, that is fascinating. The point being here, is that Sidhis are like any other ability living things develop- we learn to walk, to talk, and if fortunate, to do Sidhis. Most of the ones I remember were supernormal abilities. I really appreciate your openness about your personal experiences. MMY calls the sidhis normal super, not supernormal for a reason... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cognitve Biases and Logical Fallacies
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, that is fascinating. The point being here, is that Sidhis are like any other ability living things develop- we learn to walk, to talk, and if fortunate, to do Sidhis. Most of the ones I remember were supernormal abilities. Not really-- just a matter of practice. Available to anyone who invests the time (*caveat*: which could be considerable...). I really appreciate your openness about your personal experiences. Great! Glad you appreciate that. I don't like to treat so called spiritual experiences any different than any other experiences- just another slice of cheese in the sandwich of life heh-heh... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Clarifying The Energy Field'
I feel all this discussion concerning intuition, higher states of consciousness, performing sidhis, all come down to one thing: Claifying consciousness... As the mind settles down, and can experience the silence of the Transcendent, the energy of the mind become whole, one. With this, the energy unites with the heart: Then the ability to intuit anything, in the simplicity of the feeling in the heart. You think from the heart- the mind becomes a servent of the mind, and not the other way around. It is the mind the complicates and compartmentalizes, and judges. The heart is simple, and we could say is the closest connection to the soul; so it knows; it is knowingness. So, one can percieve in others- certain patterns, on the level of silence, it is easy to pick up how entrenched these paterns are, and if they will take long or short to heal. The sidhis are primarily for healing, or a demostration of 'Oneness' Like any other healing, there has to be a real need for healing. The sidhis are not to be used as if in a circus of some type; To show off one's ability. But, rather in a situation, where healing is needed, and then one can reach into the ability, to the extent one has developed that ability to heal. So, the clearer the experience of the stillness of your mind; And the clearer, and purer the intention of the heart, Provides: Higher Consciousness, intuition, and the expression of sidhis, when a true need arises... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Negation of Nihilism in essence of Buddhist practice.
(why simply dissolving the ego doesn't "work"; and the solution to the glitch:) __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___ ---BeginMessage--- Title: Snow Lion Publications Newsletter Dharma Quote of the Week If we do not uncover [our] problems--and I saw this in myself--we risk placing a veneer of spirituality over deeply buried emotional wounds from childhood that do not simply go away. ...When this happens there is greater potential for our spirituality to become simply another _expression_ of our personal pathology. We can falsify the qualities valued in the path without realizing it. Renunciation can become another level of denial and avoidance; compassion can become a sickly sentimentality that has no substance to it. Our desire to help others can come from "compulsive caring," or a compulsion to sacrifice ourselves because we feel worthless. The Buddhist idea of emptiness can likewise be falsified by the desire to disappear psychologically and merge or lose ego boundaries. Lack of identity, formless vagueness, and absence of boundaries do not exemplify the Buddhist idea of emptiness. My own version of this misconception was to try to live an ideal of the pure and pious only to find it was a form of repression I could not ultimately sustain. At the heart of Buddhist practice is the search for a solution to our fundamental wounds. Healing the emotional damage we often carry within is truly the object of this practice. If we wish to resolve these problems, we need to be open and honest about their reality within us. Only when we do will any spiritual practice address what we need. The aim of Buddhist practice is not a spiritual transcendence that dissociates from our suffering. Nor is it the search for salvation in some form of external divine being that we hope will save us in our distress. As one of my teachers, Lama Thubten Yeshe, once said, "Buddhism is very practical; you just have to recognize that your mind is the cause of suffering. If you change your mind, you can find liberation." This message is very simple but by no means easy to follow. In order to do so, however, we must begin to recognize where we are psychologically wounded. --from The Wisdom of Imperfection: The Challenge of Individuation in Buddhist Life by Rob Preece, published by Snow Lion Publications SNOW LION PUBLICATIONS is dedicated to the preservation of Tibetan Buddhism and culture by publishing books about this great tradition. Tibetan culture is seriously endangered in its homeland and is striving to continue outside of Tibet. To support this effort, in addition to publishing and distributing books, Snow Lion offers a wide range of dharma items, purchased primarily from Tibetans in exile. These include visual art and ritual objects, statues and thangkas, videos, traditional music, and many gift items offered through our webstore and newsletter--over 2000 items--the largest selection anywhere. To browse the complete list go towww.snowlionpub.comand select any of the categories in left-hand margin. When you choose to purchase from Snow Lion you are directly supporting the large effort to publish more Buddhist texts and help the Tibetan people.THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THE WISDOM OF IMPERFECTIONby Rob Preece more... Contact Us: N. America:(800) 950-0313 Worldwide:(607) 273-8519 By Mail:PO Box 6483, Ithaca, NY 14851 USA By Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Items Available
[FairfieldLife] eSkeptic: is the brain hardwired for morality?
re: the nature vs nurture question, the author of this article favors nature (e.g. homosexuality may develop very early in life, long before puperty; and may have a genetic predisposition); but he stops short of claiming that there's only a purely moral component to criminal behavior, independent of nature and nurture(brain damage in early life due to physical and emotional traumas). Offhand, I'd say the author still falls short of resolving the ultimate origins of immoral behavior. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ---BeginMessage--- Title: eSkeptic: June 1st, 2006 eSkeptic: the email newsletter of the Skeptics Society Thursday, June 1st, 2006 | ISSN 1556-5696 Last Minute Registrations Seats are still available, but online registration is no longer available. Registration is available by phone at 626-794-3119, and walk-ups are also available for the Saturday only (full registration fees apply). Getting to the Conference Detailed information regarding accommodation and shuttle service from the airport to the Westin Hotel are available on the Environmental Wars website. GET accommodation and shuttle info For those of you who are renting a car at the airport weve provided direct links to Google Maps with directions from the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) to Caltech as well as to the Weston Hotel. If you are starting your journey from a location other than the airport, you may enter that location in the start address field above the Google map. GOOGLE directions from LAX to Caltech GOOGLE directions from LAX to the Westin Hotel Parking near the Beckman Auditorium For parking near the Beckman Auditorium, we have created a map of the parking areas in the vicinity of the Auditorium. You can download the map in PDF format and bring it with you to the conference. Registration and all lectures will take place at the Beckman Auditorium. DOWNLOAD the Caltech map (56 kb PDF) Join us this weekend, and participate in the dialogue: www.environmentalwars.org In this weeks eSkeptic Kenneth W. Krause reviews Laurence R. Tancredis book, Hardwired Behavior: What Neuroscience Reveals About Morality. (Cambridge University Press, 2005. ISBN 0521860016) Kenneth W. Krause lives in Wisconsin, along the Mississippi River. He is a former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney with degrees in law, history, literature, and fine art. Books editor for Secular Nation, Kenneth has recently contributed as well to Free Inquiry, Skeptic, The Humanist, and Freethought Today. Hardwired for Good a book review by Kenneth W. Krause Nature precedes nurture. Biology sets the parameters for behavior, whether consciously or unconsciously inspired. Free will is more a convenient social and political ideal than a dispassionate description of reality, and as such, writes Laurence Tancredi, attorney and New York University Professor of Psychiatry, individual sins may not be sins after all (p. 9). Moral behaviors draw from nearly every component of the brain, but the heavy lifting is performed in three areas: the amygdala, the inhibitory networks (anterior cingulate cortex, hippocampus, hypothalamus, and prefrontal cortex), and the mirror-neuron system. Broadly stated, the amygdala generates emotional import from environmental stimuli while inhibitory structures assist in regulating emotional responses. The prefrontal cortex, often referred to as the brains command post, is crucial in managing complex behaviors, and the mirror-neuron system is essential to learning by imitation. Overwhelmingly intense responses by the first or deficiencies in or injuries to the latter structures can result in bad decisions, and, ultimately, immoral behavior. Even so, genes do not lord over every detail of human conduct. Biology is more a firm hand clasped behind a heavy leash than ten tireless fingers strung over a marionette. Genetic transmission of any given moral capacity is insufficient to ensure a moral trait. In addition, some instruction, or external
[FairfieldLife] Shree Ma on the 9-planet puja
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Sending Out an S.O.S. for Kansas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/11/06 5:42:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now is the time, for all meditators; To gather their thoughts, and good wishes; Towards this Titantic-Like project in Kansas. With a little momentum, in a positive direction, Perhaps we can bring peace and harmony to the- Geographical center of the crazy United States, just perhaps.. We can join together, in the deepest recesses of our meditation; Remember Kansas, the tall wheat fields, the pure bliss consciousness. The purple and yellow rainbow in the sky. The feeling of the U.S. reagaining it's heart and soul. Come on brother's and sister's of the TM movement. We can save this Titantic, through pure thought energy alone And God save the Queen.. Actually you had me until the last line. I realize it's your poetry, but God save the Queen? I think And thank you for your support would go better. Yeah, I just was using it as some kind of metaphore, and I suppose to add and English touch... The metaphore has more to do with the energy of the benevolent Queen; Someone like a Princess Diane type of energy archetype... - who would go into the darkness, and attempt through love and beauty to heal the situation... So, anyway, thanks for your supportive intentions... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'
---I disagree with this on the basis of my observations of various Gurus. Some probably E'd people (say HWL Poonja) are or have a. been keeping their Sidhis secret yet have them, or b. don't have them. c. a third possibility is that they are not E'd. Just on the basis of logical grounds, there are flaws in the assumption that all E'd people are automatically in posession of Sidhis; since the process of transcending implies just that: going through - and not necessarily stopping - at levels a,b,c,d...into more subtle levels. In fact, people already having Sidhis at various levels may find that the mind's engagement on those levels is an obstacle to E'd. Thus, they wind up with NO Sidhis except E'ment which may be considered a Sidhi, since it's based on the foundation of physiological states. The notion that they have Sidhis but are simply not using them has to be scientifically tested; or at least, one can simply ask the Guru if she/he is in possession of Sidhis but chooses not to use them. At any rate, we can approach this question with at least, a thin framework of scientific method; lest we fall victim to certain urban myths. I feel all this discussion concerning intuition, higher states of consciousness, performing sidhis, all come down to one thing: Claifying consciousness... As the mind settles down, and can experience the silence of the Transcendent, the energy of the mind become whole, one. With this, the energy unites with the heart: Then the ability to intuit anything, in the simplicity of the feeling in the heart. You think from the heart- the mind becomes a servent of the mind, and not the other way around. It is the mind the complicates and compartmentalizes, and judges. The heart is simple, and we could say is the closest connection to the soul; so it knows; it is knowingness. So, one can percieve in others- certain patterns, on the level of silence, it is easy to pick up how entrenched these paterns are, and if they will take long or short to heal. The sidhis are primarily for healing, or a demostration of 'Oneness' Like any other healing, there has to be a real need for healing. The sidhis are not to be used as if in a circus of some type; To show off one's ability. But, rather in a situation, where healing is needed, and then one can reach into the ability, to the extent one has developed that ability to heal. So, the clearer the experience of the stillness of your mind; And the clearer, and purer the intention of the heart, Provides: Higher Consciousness, intuition, and the expression of sidhis, when a true need arises... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The long human-chimp love affair
--- matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] From The Week, June 9, 2006, p. 22: Modern humans are actually hybrids created by millenia of interbreeding between early hominids and chimpanzees, a new study has concluded. After the two species diverged about 6.3 million years ago, primitive hominids and chimps were enough alike that they sometimes mated. That interbreeding, say scientists at MIT and Harvard, went on for a million years. We probably had a bit of a messy origin, geneticist James Mallet tells The Washington Post. Scientists came to this conclusion by studying the genomes of humans, chimps, and gorillas, all of which bear markers of how long ago they broke away from other species. the genomes show that after humans initially broke away from chimps, they continued to acquire chromosomes from chimps until a second and final break about 5.3 million years ago. The finding is not only an affront to fundamentalists belief that we're entriely separate from the animals, but also points to a surprising change in the way scientists may come to view evolution. Traditionally, scientists have assumed that hybrid species die out, while pure species live on. If this new theory is correct, it means that the pure humans died out, leaving us hybrids behind. This is contributing to the idea that species are kind of fuzzy, Mallet says. They become real over time, but it takes millions of years. [end of article] So where does this leave humans living today? The Week, June 16, p. 14, provides an article that may partially answer this question: A Romanian village is enjoying a tourist boom, thanks to a humping hill that is believed to help couples conceive. The mayor of Horea, Corneliu Olar, is determined to promote the hill as a tourist attraction, and has planted extra bushes to provide privacy for couples. It has been a traition for more than three centuries, Olar says. Romanian kings have come and gone, but the humping hill has always been there. [end of story]. Now I'm wondering if humans are mating with vampires. --- End forwarded message --- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shree Ma on the 9-planet puja
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, purushaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], purushaz purushaz@ wrote: - --- End forwarded message --- Another homage to the grahas: http://www.sanskrit.safire.com/pdf/GRAHA.PDF Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'
You can murder with words; Even though we have become 'shell-shocked; Still the intention is hatred, and that is evil.R.Gimbel Madison,WI __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'
In a message dated 6/11/06 9:03:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can murder with words; Even though we have become 'shell-shocked; Still the intention is hatred, and that is evil. R.Gimbel Madison,WI Funny this should pop up at this moment. I just finished her book. I didn't find any hatred or evil towards anybody, but condemnation and rejection of the religion of liberalism. You might try reading it before jumping to conclusions about what she must be saying. After that you can burn her book. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---I disagree with this on the basis of my observations of various Gurus. Some probably E'd people (say HWL Poonja) are or have a. been keeping their Sidhis secret yet have them, or b. don't have them. c. a third possibility is that they are not E'd. snip So the best solution to answer your question is for you to fully realize Enlightenment, waking, dreaming and sleeping. Then you will know beyond any doubt. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: (no subject)
__._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___ ---BeginMessage--- Ed Engle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:51:24 -0400From: "Ed Engle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Fw: (no subject)To: "DON LOOS" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Caroline R. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Shirley Behney ; Lois Miller ; John Werner ; Dennis Walborn ; LeRoy T. Reber ; Philip Dove ; Eddie Ferne Engle Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:08 PM Subject: Fw: (no subject) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: (no subject) I was sent the following and thought you would enjoy it. On Speaking EnglishA U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a Naval conference that included admirals from the US, British, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception! , he found himself standing with a group of half dozen or so officers that included personnel from most of the countries.Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked: "Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences, rather than speaking French?" Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied: "Maybe it's because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German." It got so quiet, you could have heard a pin drop. ---End Message---
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: (no subject)
In a message dated 6/11/06 9:55:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was sent the following and thought you would enjoy it. On Speaking EnglishA U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a Naval conference that included admirals from the US, British, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception! , he found himself standing with a group of half dozen or so officers that included personnel from most of the countries.Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked: "Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences, rather than speaking French?" Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied: "Maybe it's because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German." It got so quiet, you could have heard a pin drop. Beautiful!! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---I disagree with this on the basis of my observations of various Gurus. Some probably E'd people (say HWL Poonja) are or have a. been keeping their Sidhis secret yet have them, or b. don't have them. c. a third possibility is that they are not E'd. snip So the best solution to answer your question is for you to fully realize Enlightenment, waking, dreaming and sleeping. Then you will know beyond any doubt. This is a typical neo-Advaitin reply; a strategy Nisargadatta Maharaj fell back on repeatedly rather than saying I don't know. Sorry, this is a poor excuse for addressing the questions regarding knowledge and how acquire it. There's either a full, or partial answer: saying find out for yourself is a cop out. Forget Sidhis like levitating elephants. Let's pick an easy one, say the acquisition of important mathematical theorems. Let's see some of the new math theorems you can come up with. How about a proof to Riemann's Hypothesis. There's a one million dollar reward for this? What? Can't solve this??? Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Speaking English
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Speaking English on 6/11/06 9:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was sent the following and thought you would enjoy it. On Speaking English A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a Naval conference that included admirals from the US, British, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception! , he found himself standing with a group of half dozen or so officers that included personnel from most of the countries. Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked: Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences, rather than speaking French? Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied: Maybe it's because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German. It got so quiet, you could have heard a pin drop. And the French arranged it so the Americans wouldnt be speaking with a British accent (by saving our asses in the Revolutionary War), so lighten up on them already. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---I disagree with this on the basis of my observations of various Gurus. Some probably E'd people (say HWL Poonja) are or have a. been keeping their Sidhis secret yet have them, or b. don't have them. c. a third possibility is that they are not E'd. snip So the best solution to answer your question is for you to fully realize Enlightenment, waking, dreaming and sleeping. Then you will know beyond any doubt. This is a typical neo-Advaitin reply; a strategy Nisargadatta Maharaj fell back on repeatedly rather than saying I don't know. Sorry, this is a poor excuse for addressing the questions regarding knowledge and how acquire it. There's either a full, or partial answer: saying find out for yourself is a cop out. Forget Sidhis like levitating elephants. Let's pick an easy one, say the acquisition of important mathematical theorems. Let's see some of the new math theorems you can come up with. How about a proof to Riemann's Hypothesis. There's a one million dollar reward for this? What? Can't solve this??? Thanks. It's not some kind of fancy-pants 'strategy', excuse, or neo whatever you call it answer. Personal accountability is the only way to discover unambiguous answers for any of us. Do you not have any answers of your own? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field' on 6/11/06 10:08 PM, qntmpkt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---I disagree with this on the basis of my observations of various Gurus. Some probably E'd people (say HWL Poonja) are or have a. been keeping their Sidhis secret yet have them, or b. don't have them. c. a third possibility is that they are not E'd. snip So the best solution to answer your question is for you to fully realize Enlightenment, waking, dreaming and sleeping. Then you will know beyond any doubt. This is a typical neo-Advaitin reply; a strategy Nisargadatta Maharaj fell back on repeatedly rather than saying I don't know. Sorry, this is a poor excuse for addressing the questions regarding knowledge and how acquire it. There's either a full, or partial answer: saying find out for yourself is a cop out. Forget Sidhis like levitating elephants. Let's pick an easy one, say the acquisition of important mathematical theorems. Let's see some of the new math theorems you can come up with. How about a proof to Riemann's Hypothesis. There's a one million dollar reward for this? What? Can't solve this??? Thanks. You consider this a criterion of enlightenment? You think any enlightened person in the history of the world could have done this? I doubt it. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: (no subject)
interesting ! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 4:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: (no subject) __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---I disagree with this on the basis of my observations of various Gurus. Some probably E'd people (say HWL Poonja) are or have a. been keeping their Sidhis secret yet have them, or b. don't have them. c. a third possibility is that they are not E'd. snip So the best solution to answer your question is for you to fully realize Enlightenment, waking, dreaming and sleeping. Then you will know beyond any doubt. While that would be the most pleasant 'solution,' :-) IMO it would offer no more conclusive an 'answer' to the 'question' of whether all enlightened beings display the siddhis than anything else. His experience of enlightenment will be his, and unlike anyone else's, including yours. To claim that all enlightened beings have knowledge of and can perform the siddhis simply shows that the person claiming that hasn't read very much of the literature of enlighenment and the biographies of those who have realized their own enlightenment. Some enlightened beings were interested in siddhis and thus developed them; other weren't. Simple as that. It's really an apples and oranges situation in my opinion and in my experiice. Siddhis have nothing whatsoever to do with enlightenment and vice-versa. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: (no subject)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/11/06 9:55:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was sent the following and thought you would enjoy it. On Speaking English A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a Naval conference that included admirals from the US, British, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception! , he found himself standing with a group of half dozen or so officers that included personnel from most of the countries. Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked: Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences, rather than speaking French? For me at least, there's something strangely irritating in the rhythmic patterns of the French language. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
