[FairfieldLife] Another interesting article: the Identity Protective Cognition Thesis
One that might be of interest to those who seem compelled to prove how much smarter they are than others. As a quote from the article and the research it reports on says: A recent study by Yale's Dan M. Kahan and colleagues might be thought to call these truisms of democratic political culture into question. According to the finding, the better you are at reasoning numerically, the more likely you are to let your political bias skew your quantitative reasoning. Put another way, the brainier you are, the better you can twist facts to your own pre-existing convictions. And that's what you will tend to do. http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-\ the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f= http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-\ the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f= http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-t\ he-stupider-you-are?ft=1f= http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-\ the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f=
[FairfieldLife] You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-rel\ igion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-re\ ligion.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-rel\ igion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-re\ ligion.html Related? http://www.salon.com/2013/11/01/atheist_marriages_may_last_longer_than_c\ hristian_ones_partner/ http://www.salon.com/2013/11/01/atheist_marriages_may_last_longer_than_\ christian_ones_partner/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Girl from the North Country
Seraphita, ye gods and little fishes! One of the huge perks of aging is that I've gotten to see/hear the unfolding of artistic gifts in different artists in different fields. For example, the Beatles, Aaron Sorokin, the TV creator, Woody Allen and Susan Howatch, a novelist I've followed. Intellectually I realize that some of the later songs of the Beatles are way more accomplished, for example, Yesterday and Hey Jude. I appreciate them on that level but I still LOVE Things We Said Today. And mainly for the melody, the arrangement, though I like the lyrics too. The arrangement seems especially original to me. I also LOVE Long and Winding Road but I think that was McCartney's; and My Sweet Lord which was Harrison I think. I'm currently watching the TV series Castle and even in this situation it's fascinating to realize that the artists involved don't hit a home run every single time. Nor do they need to because there's a consistency of excellence along with steady growth that's so gratifying to see. Actually in her novels, Susan Howatch sometimes has a character talk about the creative process. The novels are usually about a clergyman in the Church of England undergoing a spiritual crisis (usually a woman in the picture too!) and so the creative process is discussed in this context. Juicy stuff! BTW, ye gods and little fishes I picked up in one of Howatch's novels (-: As for being embarrassed by one's earlier creations, I'd say it takes courage to put it out there, get feedback, learn, create again and put it out there again. I also think it takes a certain innocent devotion to soul or spirit to continually create like this. Maybe that's what I really love about these artists, their courage and devotion. On Friday, November 1, 2013 11:57 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re My favourite Beatles song is Things We Said Today.: Ye gods! That's my favourite Beatles' song also! McCartney's love lyric to Jane Asher. We are obviously two very advanced human beings. Lennon and Co later grew embarrassed about the cheesy love songs they'd written and set about expanding the themes they engaged with. I'm glad they did as they've left us such a fantastic catalogue to enjoy but in my (not-so-humble) opinion Love is always the best topic for a pop song and in Things We Said Today Paul really nailed it. You say you will love me If I have to go You'll be thinking of me Somehow I will know. Someday when I'm lonely Wishing you weren't so far away Then I will remember Things we said today. You say you'll be mine, girl Till the end of time These days such a kind girl Seems so hard to find. Someday when we're dreaming Deep in love, not a lot to say Then we will remember Things we said today. Me, I'm just the lucky kind Love to hear you say that love is luck And though we may be blind Love is here to stay and that's enough To make you mine, girl Be the only one. Love me all the time, girl We'll go on and on. Someday when we're dreaming Deep in love, not a lot to say Then we will remember Things we said today. Me, I'm just the lucky kind Love to hear you say that love is luck. Though we may be blind Love is here to stay and that's enough To make you mine, girl Be the only one. Love me all the time, girl We'll go on and on. Someday when we're dreaming Deep in love, not a lot to say Then we will remember Things we said today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev_XPaakW9Y ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita, I remember I was puttering around my bedroom when I Wanna Hold Your Hand came on the radio. My whole being kind of perked up and payed attention. It was such a different sound from any other popular music of the time. But I really liked it. My favorite Beatles song is Things We Said Today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d-Z7vakj4s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d-Z7vakj4s On Friday, November 1, 2013 6:53 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Re I can still remember the first time I heardI Wanna Hold Your Hand. Goose bumps!: The Beatles' I Wanna Hold Your Hand was released in October 63. Twelve months later The Kinks released All Day and All of the Night. How short the age of innocence! Shouldn't FFLifers be drawn to TM-themed tracks? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjq9LmSO1eI ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: I feel so lucky to have grown up in such an amazing time for music. I can still remember the first time I heard I Wanna Hold Your Hand. Goose bumps! But Motown was also wonderful during my teen years as well as the protest music.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another interesting article: the Identity Protective Cognition Thesis
Thanks for 2 fascinating articles, turq. I was realizing yesterday during the Clinton exchanges, that we humans like to think that we're being logical and reasonable and intelligent about our political choices. But I could feel in myself on subtler levels, that my conclusions about Hillary Clinton are not derived only from facts and observables and logic. So I agree with the author when he says at the end that education must aim at something more subtle and not so easy to measure. I'd add that often that something is also a challenge in terms of articulation. But it's great fun to keep attempting to articulate what's elusive and or complex. Yikes! I've slipped into preaching to the choir! On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:17 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: One that might be of interest to those who seem compelled to prove how much smarter they are than others. As a quote from the article and the research it reports on says: A recent study by Yale's Dan M. Kahan and colleagues might be thought to call these truisms of democratic political culture into question. According to the finding, the better you are at reasoning numerically, the more likely you are to let your political bias skew your quantitative reasoning. Put another way, the brainier you are, the better you can twist facts to your own pre-existing convictions. And that's what you will tend to do.http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f=
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another interesting article: the Identity Protective Cognition Thesis
Whoops! turq, thanks for THREE fascinating articles this morning. Whew, close call, good save, etc! On Saturday, November 2, 2013 6:28 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for 2 fascinating articles, turq. I was realizing yesterday during the Clinton exchanges, that we humans like to think that we're being logical and reasonable and intelligent about our political choices. But I could feel in myself on subtler levels, that my conclusions about Hillary Clinton are not derived only from facts and observables and logic. So I agree with the author when he says at the end that education must aim at something more subtle and not so easy to measure. I'd add that often that something is also a challenge in terms of articulation. But it's great fun to keep attempting to articulate what's elusive and or complex. Yikes! I've slipped into preaching to the choir! On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:17 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: One that might be of interest to those who seem compelled to prove how much smarter they are than others. As a quote from the article and the research it reports on says: A recent study by Yale's Dan M. Kahan and colleagues might be thought to call these truisms of democratic political culture into question. According to the finding, the better you are at reasoning numerically, the more likely you are to let your political bias skew your quantitative reasoning. Put another way, the brainier you are, the better you can twist facts to your own pre-existing convictions. And that's what you will tend to do.http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f=
[FairfieldLife] RE: You don#39;t need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
At least they believe in something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-rel\ igion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-re\ ligion.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-rel\ igion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-re\ ligion.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
I deleted an earlier version of this post that replied with atypically (from me) blissful silence. Blame the cafe. It's dark in here, and I hit the wrong key... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. Now my real followup. I just re-read the article, and I don't want it to seem like I'm dumping on either it or the group it's about. I thought that the article was well-written, and have no doubt that the people taking the Sunday Assemblies on the road are well-intentioned. Heck, I even like their credo. I doubt I could have done better than, Live better. Help often. Wonder more. That kinda nails it, in six words. I do wonder about their message. To quote the article, This message is echoed throughout their events, that the joy and wonder of life should be experienced all the more intensely because there is no afterlife. Death is final, but not to be feared, nor anticipated as a realm where some divine being will put right the injustices endured in life. I like that they probably feel they have no dogma, but I smell a little here. And I come away wondering if it excludes me from their church. I doubt they ever conceived of such a situation occurring. From their point of view, if you don't believe in God, you believe as they do that death is final. I don't believe in a God, but I sure as heck believe that death is not final. I believe very strongly in reincarnation. Would my views be welcome in their church, or heresy? I honestly have no idea. I'm just rappin'. All of this is Just My Opinion. You guys are probably lucky I *don't* evangelize. If I were the type of person who tries to convince others to believe the same things he does, I'd found The Blinding Light Church Of Just My Opinion, Reformed. At least no one would evangelize it, because it's credo would be: Like that other thing we've all got one of, each of us has an opinion. That doesn't mean we should run around like dogs demanding that others sniff ours. :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don#39;t need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
Yeah, that's a good thing, as long as it's life supporting. How about the teen age atheists of England?, they apparently don't believe in anything, and you know the old saying, if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. (Like the mess the world is in today.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] Influences
Earlier today I read an interesting interview with Keanu Reeves. They were talking about his new movie as a director, and of course they asked about his influences. I thought he did a good job with his answers; he's no dummy. But it got me thinking about what my creative influences might have been. Those humans or creative works that I have identified with strongly, and thus might have shaped my life. They were too many to number, or discuss, until I started wondering who or what might have inspired me to take up my cafe lifestyle? Then, as synchronicity would have it, I stumbled upon the following photo. It's an album cover from 1981. I first discovered it while *sitting* in a cafe, seeing it in the window of a record store across the street. No influence there, nope. :-) Of course, here in my Leiden cafe, my cigarette is electronic, and the beer on my table comes in a brown bottle, and is (ahem) better than his, but there IS a certain similarity. And I, for one, can't feel bad about that, because Bruce's credo has always been not to evangelize, just to leave footprints in the form of cafe writings penned about his travels through this mystery we call life. He never asks anyone to follow them. But I guess I did. [http://www.truenorthrecords.com/bin/albums/225/InnerCityFront_large.jpg\ ] http://www.truenorthrecords.com/bin/albums/225/InnerCityFront_large.jpg http://www.truenorthrecords.com/bin/albums/225/InnerCityFront_large.jpg\
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. Who knows what natural law IS? Do you? How? Did you believe someone who told you he or she knew what it was? Why? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@ wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don#39;t need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize ..I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. At least they believe in something. No, not just “whatever”. Except that there are social beliefs that are spiritually healthful and then asocial individual beliefs that are unhealthy and harmfully bad. Manifestly. People need to be regulated by policy (church group?) to be able to live well together for their own safety. We've evolved that way. Ultimately that is why we have wise parents, teachers, and saints to teach us and then their administrators to evangelize us. We should thank the Unified Field for public education that saves us all from ignorance and progresses us on as a race spiritually. That is called acculturation in evolutionary altruism. We would be nothing without each other and learning how to live together with policy guidelines. Just t to say that everybody believes in something and that everything is fine is such whishy feely that begs the question of what things are in fact spiritually better for people. Public health policy. You may as well just go lay down in the mud and take your own step back in evolution if you don't agree with this. We proly should be protected from you, your stinking corpse and that thinking if that is the case. Jeesus that is crossing a line of spine-lessness. Son take a stand. Here in this church of FFL, you're either for meditation or against it. It is the part of a larger evolutionary altruism and a great fight of moral character. Evolutionarily, some people obviously are better at groups than other people. And, some times groups need to protect themselves from the asocial effect of bad fruitcakes only just to exist as groups for larger spiritually social benefit. I am all in favor of moderation, in the form of effective individual meditation, collectively for the greater good. The science cries out for this very public policy for all our good. Our experience cries out for this too. Change begins within but we need organization to affect evolution. Are you with us? =Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Complicated subject wgm, and not one that you or I could give any definitive reading on. If you disagree with people modifying their bodies with surgery and hormones then you must certainly have a problem with those who use artificial limbs, indulge in plastic surgery, use hormones as a means of birth control or for treating prostate cancer (among other things), not to mention people who wear hair pieces. For that matter, allowing two separate humans procreate to create a third person who is a byproduct of two genetic pools might be a bit iffy...who knows if any of this would be in 'God's plan'. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] Worth a Look
This is only about 2 minutes long but I loved it. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=73f_1382046958 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=73f_1382046958
[FairfieldLife] RE: Another interesting article: the Identity Protective Cognition Thesis
Obviously Barry found the study of interest... What interests me is that I can't recall anything anywhere near as numerically complex as the question the study deals with ever having been discussed on FFL, so no one here has ever had the opportunity to prove how much smarter they are than others on that level of numerical reasoning. Which means that Barry is only fantasizing about which members of FFL might be numerate enough for this study to call their political reasoning in question. I'm happy to say I'm not one of them; I'm blissfully innumerate. So he can cross me off his list. Sorry, Barry. ;-) Barry wrote: One that might be of interest to those who seem compelled to prove how much smarter they are than others. As a quote from the article and the research it reports on says: A recent study by Yale's Dan M. Kahan and colleagues might be thought to call these truisms of democratic political culture into question. According to the finding, the better you are at reasoning numerically, the more likely you are to let your political bias skew your quantitative reasoning. Put another way, the brainier you are, the better you can twist facts to your own pre-existing convictions. And that's what you will tend to do. http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f= http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f= http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f= http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/11/01/242138044/the-smarter-you-are-the-stupider-you-are?ft=1f=
[FairfieldLife] RE: You don#39;t need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
We had these when I was growing up. We called them hootenannies. Barry wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html
[FairfieldLife] Hell House
No, it's not in Fairfield. It *is* in Texas, but other than that this article isn't about Fairfield Life. :-) But it certainly is interesting. Try to imagine evangelizing for a spiritual teacher and the only way you can think of to do it is to scare the bejeezus out of people to lead them to Jeezus. http://www.vice.com/read/the-best-little-hell-house-in-texas?utm_source=\ vicetumblrus http://www.vice.com/read/the-best-little-hell-house-in-texas?utm_source\ =vicetumblrus Those into making connections, relate this to the article I posted recently about 70% of Americans believing in Pure Evil, and the kinds of things that belief convinced them they had the right to do to their fellow human beings.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Another interesting article: the Identity Protective Cognition Thesis
Share wrote: (snip) I was realizing yesterday during the Clinton exchanges, that we humans like to think that we're being logical and reasonable and intelligent about our political choices. But I could feel in myself on subtler levels, that my conclusions about Hillary Clinton are not derived only from facts and observables and logic. Um, that's what I was telling you yesterday and you were denying, Share. Especially in the case of politicians' private lives, there's more to them than facts and observables and logic, and that more is what we cannot possibly know. So our conclusions are always going to be based on our fantasies of what, say, a couple's marriage is like. And if we then base our political choices on those fantasies (doormat, enabler), we're more likely than not to go seriously astray.
[FairfieldLife] Re: All About Mantra and Japa
In TM you get one bija mantra to meditate on. So, where does this bija mantra come from? We do not know where or how the bija mantras came to be formed, or how they ones used in TM came to be used - we can only speculate. The origin of the TM bija mantras is not explained by Larry Domash in big blue books. History of TM: http://tinyurl.com/34bras So, let's review what we know: Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a dasanami sannyasin whose guru was Swami Krishnananda Saraswati. So, SBS got the Saraswati bija mantra from SKS, who got the same bija from his guru, passed on from a long line of gurus founded by the Adi Shankaracharya in 800 Ad at Sringeri in Karnataka, India - as the Sri Vidya sect. The Sringeri adherents worship the Sri Chakra, a mystic diagram or mandala, used as a symbol for Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, with the TM bija mantras inscribed thereon. The main spiritual scripture of the the Sri Vidya is the Soundaryalahari attributed to Shankara, which enumerates the sixteen bija mantras used for spiritual practice- meditation that is transcendental. All the Upanishad thinkers were transcendentalists of one sort or another. According to the Shankara tradition, Shankara visited Kashmere and brought the Trika to South Asia along with a copy of the Sri Yantra and installed it at all the Shankara maths, dedicated to Tripursundari, the Goddess of Speech. It is a fact that the Sri Yantra is present at all the Shankara maths including the math at Sringeri. Are we agreed so far? According to Bharati, one explanation for the origin of bija mantras is that the mantra shows itself in a process of introspective sensory perception, as a result of deep meditation; or through the grace of the guru or the istadevata; bijas are either seen or heard,they are not the result of discursive composition; bijas are revealed in a flash of insight, as one complete unit; bijas are eternal and only revealed in time; as the result of deep meditation or from performing japa; or as an act of grace through supernatural initiation; or bijas may be drug induced. Or,the bijas were concocted by some early yogins or other esoteric illuminati when they conceived the idea of using verbal sound clusters which are not intelligible to the non-initiate to mark off a circle of adepts. According to Brhaspati, the founder of the Carvaka materialistic school, bija mantras were made up that cunning priests and that the bijas sole purpose was to fool gullible folks for their own aggrandizement and that the tantric gurus were nothing but impostors, rogues and skrimshanks passing off unintelligible nonsense gibberishfor words of wisdom - hocus pocus. Or, that bija mantras are the nick names of the istadevatas who are not fond of being accosted by their actual names. Go figure. Another hypothesis concerns the idea of sound vibration called 'spanda' in Sanskrit: certain sounds are felt to have a special resonance or pitch. This is the explanation given by MMY who stated that the bijas are sounds whose effects are known from the experience of countless yogins over many centuries. This may explain why MMY was so attracted to the teachings of Kashmere tantrism and why MMY was so close to Swami Laksmajoo who taught the Spanda vibration theory at the 1968 TTC in India. Lama Govinda wrote that bija mantras are symbol or holy words transmitted in an initiation that makes his personality vibrate in consonance with the guru and the whole line of gurus and opens the initiate to higher states of consciousness. MMY thought that TM and the use of bija mantras provided the ideal opportunity for transcending and the expansion of consciousness. Works cited: 'The Tantric Tradition' by Agehanada Bharati Rider, 1965 p. 112-15 'Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism' by Lama Govinda Rider, 1961 p. 90 On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Before we get started we should provide a definition of mantra. While the term mantra is usually taken to mean phrases from the Vedas. However, bija mantras are not mentioned in the Rig Veda. Vedic mantras are Sanskrit words while bija mantras are 'seed sounds' with no semantic meaning. Bija mantras are given by a guru in an initiation and are thus empowered by the guru. Therefore, bija mantras are esoteric sound vibrations, not words found in a Sanskrit lexicon. 'Mantras' that are listed in books or that you read on the internet are not true bija mantras - they have no Shakti, and are thus powerless and ineffectual - they are just nonsense gibberish to the non-intiated. Woodroffe and Eliade both say unequivocally that the mantras have absolutely no semantic meaning. If you attach meaning to the bija mantra you will find yourself limited to the conscious thinking level of awareness. In contrast, a non-ideational mnemonic device, like an abstract bija or seed syllable provides the ideal opportunity for transcending. Bija mantras cannot be translated
Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!
Let's see, the Democrats have Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden as possible candidates for the next presidential election. The Republicans have Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Rick Santorum, and Jeb Bush. Go figure. Here are a six reasons I won't be supporting Hillary Clinton: 1. She was in favor of invading Afghanistan. 2. She was opposed to a surge in Afghanistan. 3. She was in favor of invading Iraq. 4. She was opposed to the surge in Iraq. 5. She failed to protect the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. 6. She lied about the Benghazi attack and tried to cover it up, blaming it on a video. You probably won't be this on MSNBC any time soon: 'Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?' The Week: http://theweek.com/hillary-clintons-popularity-sliding http://theweek.com/article/index/252160/why-is-hillary-clintons-popularity-sliding 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble' Newsbusters: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mother-jones-shocker http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/11/01/mother-jones-shocker-new-poll-shows-democratic-incumbents-big-trouble#ixzz2jPrsL4lG On 11/1/2013 2:08 PM, Share Long wrote: Ha! Just proves that Emily and Judy don't know me at all. I would never vote for Hillary because IMO she acted like a door mat when she didn't divorce Bill after the Monica affair. On Fri, 11/1/13, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 1:49 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
William, a few responses to this. First of all, I think infinite Being gives birth to infinite universe, which means a heck of a lot of variety. I don't think there's any way to box infinity, either of Being or of its expression, the universe. Secondly, Mike D has offered the explanation that we all spend 3 lives as a man, then as a woman, alternating like that over and over. That the life after three lives as one gender can contain some remnant of those previous three lives as the opposite gender. What do you think? Lastly, I've heard that Atlantis was creating horrible weapons and that's why it was destroyed. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:08 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!
Richard, why isn't Elizabeth Warren on your list? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Let's see, the Democrats have Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden as possible candidates for the next presidential election. The Republicans have Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Rick Santorum, and Jeb Bush. Go figure. Here are a six reasons I won't be supporting Hillary Clinton: 1. She was in favor of invading Afghanistan. 2. She was opposed to a surge in Afghanistan. 3. She was in favor of invading Iraq. 4. She was opposed to the surge in Iraq. 5. She failed to protect the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. 6. She lied about the Benghazi attack and tried to cover it up, blaming it on a video. You probably won't be this on MSNBC any time soon: 'Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?' The Week: http://theweek.com/hillary-clintons-popularity-sliding http://theweek.com/article/index/252160/why-is-hillary-clintons-popularity-sliding 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble' Newsbusters: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mother-jones-shocker http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/11/01/mother-jones-shocker-new-poll-shows-democratic-incumbents-big-trouble#ixzz2jPrsL4lG On 11/1/2013 2:08 PM, Share Long wrote: Ha! Just proves that Emily and Judy don't know me at all. I would never vote for Hillary because IMO she acted like a door mat when she didn't divorce Bill after the Monica affair. On Fri, 11/1/13, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 1:49 PM
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
What the Universe gives birth to (Mother Nature) is different than what 'man' gives birth to often times, unless you think man has no freewill. CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As we sow, so shall we reap. Apparently the Atlantians were using Black Magic to create all forms of perversions, who really knows? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: William, a few responses to this. First of all, I think infinite Being gives birth to infinite universe, which means a heck of a lot of variety. I don't think there's any way to box infinity, either of Being or of its expression, the universe. Secondly, Mike D has offered the explanation that we all spend 3 lives as a man, then as a woman, alternating like that over and over. That the life after three lives as one gender can contain some remnant of those previous three lives as the opposite gender. What do you think? Lastly, I've heard that Atlantis was creating horrible weapons and that's why it was destroyed. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:08 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
Or, the reverse, that many here are seeking to curry favor with Judy, the leader of the Snickers, except for the two Barrys who don't seem to want to curry favor with anyone, so they too snicker a lot at everyone. Go figure. On 11/1/2013 11:38 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: No Share, you just have a nasty habit of attempting to curry favor with any Tom, Dick and Harry who happen to be willing to listen. Come on boys, give her a hand. (Was that a dirty thing to say?) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Mike, somehow, in the total context of your post, snickering does not sound one iota as nasty as it does in the total context of Judy's post. Maybe I'm prejudiced. On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:47 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Sorry Share, I don't mean to get involved in your and Judy's feud but I sure am snickering with Judy on that one. *From:* sharelong60@... sharelong60@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, November 1, 2013 5:36 PM *Subject:* RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today I would bet that not one person on FFL is snickering at Bhairitu. But admit that I'm still amazed at how much nastiness Judy can pack into one short post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Er, Bhairitu...* * * *No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: * * * *Bhairitu bumbled:* Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient).http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
BillyG wrote: Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, Why do you think God would create a human being who from earliest childhood felt they were in the wrong body? as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
No, I don't know what Natural Law is in it's entirety, but common sense will tell you a lot! The best we can do is go by our traditions, our experience, our religions and our philosophies. Like I said, we can only go by the best of our ability to understand that law, for now we see things in a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now my knowledge is in part; then it will be complete, (even as God's knowledge of me). 1Corinthians13:12 Conscience will guide you/us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. Who knows what natural law IS? Do you? How? Did you believe someone who told you he or she knew what it was? Why? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@ wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
BillyG wrote: CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's a non sequitur. And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to be justified?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Hell House
Not really a new idea - I remember Tiger Balm Gardens [Haw Par Villa], in Singapore. Saw it as a young child - made quite an impression! Looks like you Buddhists beat the Christians, in Texas, by a few decades, easy. from wikipedia.org: The best known attraction in Haw Par Villa is the Ten Courts of Hell, which features gruesome depictions of Hell in Chinese mythology and Buddhism. This attraction used to be set inside a 60-metre long trail of a Chinese Dragon but the dragon has been demolished, so the attraction is now covered by grey stone walls. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: No, it's not in Fairfield. It *is* in Texas, but other than that this article isn't about Fairfield Life. :-) But it certainly is interesting. Try to imagine evangelizing for a spiritual teacher and the only way you can think of to do it is to scare the bejeezus out of people to lead them to Jeezus. http://www.vice.com/read/the-best-little-hell-house-in-texas?utm_source=vicetumblrus http://www.vice.com/read/the-best-little-hell-house-in-texas?utm_source=vicetumblrus Those into making connections, relate this to the article I posted recently about 70% of Americans believing in Pure Evil, and the kinds of things that belief convinced them they had the right to do to their fellow human beings.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
You're talking apples and oranges, sorry, your comparisons don't work. Even both doctors in the video admitted that there is NO benchmark to establish the veracity of trangenderism, it's considered a disorder, it may very well be, but does that justify cutting off ones penis shaft? The world at large is ignorant of that which brings REAL happiness, including the parents (who abdicated their parental role to a mere child) and the 'Doctor' who later enabled this mixed up child to becomes neither a full MAN or WOMAN. It is now an *IT* or a hybrid if you will, not natural at all for the human kingdom IMHO. Doesn't mean you don't love someone like that or give them all the respect a human being deserves, for even the Bible admonishes us to love our neighbors as ourselves. This is a discussion about the subject, not an effort to be judgmental. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? King James In a much more esoteric explanation, a human is more than just a 'physical' body, they have a *matrix* (the subtle etheric body) from which this human body is formed, how do you change that??? That archetype determined that that physical body shall be male or female, nothing will change that, IMO and understanding. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Complicated subject wgm, and not one that you or I could give any definitive reading on. If you disagree with people modifying their bodies with surgery and hormones then you must certainly have a problem with those who use artificial limbs, indulge in plastic surgery, use hormones as a means of birth control or for treating prostate cancer (among other things), not to mention people who wear hair pieces. For that matter, allowing two separate humans procreate to create a third person who is a byproduct of two genetic pools might be a bit iffy...who knows if any of this would be in 'God's plan'. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don#39;t need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
Hey non-evangelist, evangelist, Have you ever actually *read* one of your own posts? You push you beliefs around here, like a steamroller. The pot calling the kettle black. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Given the well intentioned, but chaotic writings of the book, it hardly seems appropriate to capitalize the bible. It is considered scripture by many, but is such a mangled mess of consciousness, through endless additions and translations, that it provides little more than a series of deep thoughts. I would never take such an anecdotal collection as an authority, for anything. Common sense, experience, and reflection are far better teachers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You're talking apples and oranges, sorry, your comparisons don't work. Even both doctors in the video admitted that there is NO benchmark to establish the veracity of trangenderism, it's considered a disorder, it may very well be, but does that justify cutting off ones penis shaft? The world at large is ignorant of that which brings REAL happiness, including the parents (who abdicated their parental role to a mere child) and the 'Doctor' who later enabled this mixed up child to becomes neither a full MAN or WOMAN. It is now an *IT* or a hybrid if you will, not natural at all for the human kingdom IMHO. Doesn't mean you don't love someone like that or give them all the respect a human being deserves, for even the Bible admonishes us to love our neighbors as ourselves. This is a discussion about the subject, not an effort to be judgmental. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? King James In a much more esoteric explanation, a human is more than just a 'physical' body, they have a *matrix* (the subtle etheric body) from which this human body is formed, how do you change that??? That archetype determined that that physical body shall be male or female, nothing will change that, IMO and understanding. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Complicated subject wgm, and not one that you or I could give any definitive reading on. If you disagree with people modifying their bodies with surgery and hormones then you must certainly have a problem with those who use artificial limbs, indulge in plastic surgery, use hormones as a means of birth control or for treating prostate cancer (among other things), not to mention people who wear hair pieces. For that matter, allowing two separate humans procreate to create a third person who is a byproduct of two genetic pools might be a bit iffy...who knows if any of this would be in 'God's plan'. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified?, we are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, nobody (God) hoists them upon us for some sick reason. If there are any mistakes, largely they are ours, it's called personal responsibility. This isn't our first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will graduate from this lesson school. God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG wrote: CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's a non sequitur. And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to be justified?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Think it should be bhagavad gita and the veda and the upanishads and the koran and tao te ching too? Or should we lower-case only the scriptures you don't like? How about the declaration of independence? romeo and juliet? to kill a mockingbird? How about mein kampf? Come on, man. Capitalizing a title doesn't signify approval of the contents. Doc wrote: Given the well intentioned, but chaotic writings of the book, it hardly seems appropriate to capitalize the bible. It is considered scripture by many, but is such a mangled mess of consciousness, through endless additions and translations, that it provides little more than a series of deep thoughts. I would never take such an anecdotal collection as an authority, for anything. Common sense, experience, and reflection are far better teachers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You're talking apples and oranges, sorry, your comparisons don't work. Even both doctors in the video admitted that there is NO benchmark to establish the veracity of trangenderism, it's considered a disorder, it may very well be, but does that justify cutting off ones penis shaft? The world at large is ignorant of that which brings REAL happiness, including the parents (who abdicated their parental role to a mere child) and the 'Doctor' who later enabled this mixed up child to becomes neither a full MAN or WOMAN. It is now an *IT* or a hybrid if you will, not natural at all for the human kingdom IMHO. Doesn't mean you don't love someone like that or give them all the respect a human being deserves, for even the Bible admonishes us to love our neighbors as ourselves. This is a discussion about the subject, not an effort to be judgmental. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? King James In a much more esoteric explanation, a human is more than just a 'physical' body, they have a *matrix* (the subtle etheric body) from which this human body is formed, how do you change that??? That archetype determined that that physical body shall be male or female, nothing will change that, IMO and understanding. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Complicated subject wgm, and not one that you or I could give any definitive reading on. If you disagree with people modifying their bodies with surgery and hormones then you must certainly have a problem with those who use artificial limbs, indulge in plastic surgery, use hormones as a means of birth control or for treating prostate cancer (among other things), not to mention people who wear hair pieces. For that matter, allowing two separate humans procreate to create a third person who is a byproduct of two genetic pools might be a bit iffy...who knows if any of this would be in 'God's plan'. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Sounds like you're trying to get back at me now for my, ..she played that card on me too comment I made a few posts back! Tit for Tat huh Judy? Remember that hugh gaff I made a few months ago, yeah you do, thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention! (I meant hug). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
Be careful where you step. Judy has lost her marbles again. Must be a sign of her advancing old age. On 11/01/2013 03:13 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Er, Bhairitu...* * * *No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: * * * *Bhairitu bumbled:* Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
She only has two.;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Be careful where you step. Judy has lost her marbles again. Must be a sign of her advancing old age. On 11/01/2013 03:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Er, Bhairitu... No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: Bhairitu bumbled: Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
BillyG wrote: I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified? You said that being born gay doesn't justify being gay. So what justifies your being straight? (If you are?) , we are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, nobody (God) hoists them upon us for some sick reason. I don't believe I suggested that. If there are any mistakes, largely they are ours, it's called personal responsibility. Right. Maybe we have the responsibility to leave the judgments of what is a mistake and what isn't to God. This isn't our first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will graduate from this lesson school. God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan. But you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG wrote: CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's a non sequitur. And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to be justified?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Astrology in the New Testament
Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Pedant's Corner: it's not written. It says instead And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger. Imagine Mary straddling a feeding trough to give birth. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Because he was born on December 25 which astrologically lies between the signs of Sagittarius, a horse, and Capricorn, the goat. Interesting? Bill Donohue explains more of his observations as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Oh, please. I've always had issues with your holier-than-thou moralistic pronouncements, as you well know. I was a bit shocked that you would lie about my making a spelling correction and calling it a rebuttal, but that had nothing to do with my comments on your posts today, sorry. (Just for the record, it wasn't hug you mispelled as hugh, it was huge.) BillyG wrote: Sounds like you're trying to get back at me now for my, ..she played that card on me too comment I made a few posts back! Tit for Tat huh Judy? Remember that hugh gaff I made a few months ago, yeah you do, thanks for bringing that to everyone's attention! (I meant hug). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
Even when you call a gaffe to Bhairitu's attention, he doesn't see it. Bhairitu wrote: Be careful where you step. Judy has lost her marbles again. Must be a sign of her advancing old age. On 11/01/2013 03:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Er, Bhairitu... No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: Bhairitu bumbled: Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
I was talking about CLutes' suggestion about 3/3, it doesn't justify (or make un-sinful) what most scriptures condemn. It may explain the condition, but even so, as I recall Mr. Lutes said it was 'willfulness' that created the imbalance, that's the whole story. How could *I* be gay if there is NO such thing! The real *I* is a sexless soul having a human experience in alternating bodies, both male and female. By gay if you mean by behavior, then I would say no. A person isn't Gay or Straight, that merely refers to their behavior NOT who they are inside. FWIW. God already makes the Judgments or right and wrong, so should we, unless we want to be like the rudderless ship soon to break upon the rocks of ignorance. I think I do know what is God's plan, don't YOU? after all of these years of meditation and exploration? Really? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG wrote: I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified? You said that being born gay doesn't justify being gay. So what justifies your being straight? (If you are?) , we are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, nobody (God) hoists them upon us for some sick reason. I don't believe I suggested that. If there are any mistakes, largely they are ours, it's called personal responsibility. Right. Maybe we have the responsibility to leave the judgments of what is a mistake and what isn't to God. This isn't our first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will graduate from this lesson school. God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan. But you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: BillyG wrote: CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's a non sequitur. And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to be justified?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don't need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
Doc, I had a similar thought about turq. So, the question for me is: what makes a person an evangelist, even of not being an evangelist? I'd say how attached to or averted by or gripped by the thought or believe or POV or emotion or state one is. I actually think it's hard to see not only in ourselves, but also in others. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:33 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Hey non-evangelist, evangelist, Have you ever actually *read* one of your own posts? You push you beliefs around here, like a steamroller. The pot calling the kettle black. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
William, I've been catching up with my Mom this morning so haven't been able to reply until now. Also I've got that knowledge meeting this afternoon. Anyway, thanks for your reply and I'll say more later but for now: who knows what really happened in Atlantis? Why, those of us who were there and remember! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What the Universe gives birth to (Mother Nature) is different than what 'man' gives birth to often times, unless you think man has no freewill. CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As we sow, so shall we reap. Apparently the Atlantians were using Black Magic to create all forms of perversions, who really knows? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: William, a few responses to this. First of all, I think infinite Being gives birth to infinite universe, which means a heck of a lot of variety. I don't think there's any way to box infinity, either of Being or of its expression, the universe. Secondly, Mike D has offered the explanation that we all spend 3 lives as a man, then as a woman, alternating like that over and over. That the life after three lives as one gender can contain some remnant of those previous three lives as the opposite gender. What do you think? Lastly, I've heard that Atlantis was creating horrible weapons and that's why it was destroyed. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:08 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
[FairfieldLife] MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM
No wonder the Near-Eastern realm got so mixed up. It seems that as Manichean ideology spread to the East it incorporated Buddhist concepts along the way in a effort to show the superiority of the Religion of Light. Mani lived during the third century of the current era. Mani used the epitaph Buddha of Light and identified himself as Maitreya. He and his followers specifically borrowed from early Pure Land Sutras and Nagarjuna's Madhyamaka philosophy. As it entered the region of Gandhara and spread to China it used the Buddhist Hinayana tradition to support its views of matter, the body and the world. MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM David A. Scott Christ Church College of Higher Education
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Huh? No, just the bible. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Think it should be bhagavad gita and the veda and the upanishads and the koran and tao te ching too? Or should we lower-case only the scriptures you don't like? How about the declaration of independence? romeo and juliet? to kill a mockingbird? How about mein kampf? Come on, man. Capitalizing a title doesn't signify approval of the contents. Doc wrote: Given the well intentioned, but chaotic writings of the book, it hardly seems appropriate to capitalize the bible. It is considered scripture by many, but is such a mangled mess of consciousness, through endless additions and translations, that it provides little more than a series of deep thoughts. I would never take such an anecdotal collection as an authority, for anything. Common sense, experience, and reflection are far better teachers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: You're talking apples and oranges, sorry, your comparisons don't work. Even both doctors in the video admitted that there is NO benchmark to establish the veracity of trangenderism, it's considered a disorder, it may very well be, but does that justify cutting off ones penis shaft? The world at large is ignorant of that which brings REAL happiness, including the parents (who abdicated their parental role to a mere child) and the 'Doctor' who later enabled this mixed up child to becomes neither a full MAN or WOMAN. It is now an *IT* or a hybrid if you will, not natural at all for the human kingdom IMHO. Doesn't mean you don't love someone like that or give them all the respect a human being deserves, for even the Bible admonishes us to love our neighbors as ourselves. This is a discussion about the subject, not an effort to be judgmental. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? King James In a much more esoteric explanation, a human is more than just a 'physical' body, they have a *matrix* (the subtle etheric body) from which this human body is formed, how do you change that??? That archetype determined that that physical body shall be male or female, nothing will change that, IMO and understanding. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Complicated subject wgm, and not one that you or I could give any definitive reading on. If you disagree with people modifying their bodies with surgery and hormones then you must certainly have a problem with those who use artificial limbs, indulge in plastic surgery, use hormones as a means of birth control or for treating prostate cancer (among other things), not to mention people who wear hair pieces. For that matter, allowing two separate humans procreate to create a third person who is a byproduct of two genetic pools might be a bit iffy...who knows if any of this would be in 'God's plan'. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World. Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to understand that law. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: Thanks for posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
And exactly what gaffe might that be? On 11/02/2013 09:17 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Even when you call a gaffe to Bhairitu's attention, he doesn't see it. * *Bhairitu wrote:* Be careful where you step. Judy has lost her marbles again. Must be a sign of her advancing old age. On 11/01/2013 03:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Er, Bhairitu...* * * *No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: * * * *Bhairitu bumbled:* Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Astrology in the New Testament
Furthermore, Jesus couldn't have been born any later than September anyway, or the flocks of sheep wouldn't still have been out in the fields (Luke 2:8 http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Bible.show/sVerseID/24982/eVerseID/24982, And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night). It's pretty well established that by the 4th century CE, the presumptive date of Christ's birth had been moved to December 25 in an attempt to co-opt (or compete with) the Roman solstice festival. Seraphita wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Pedant's Corner: it's not written. It says instead And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger. Imagine Mary straddling a feeding trough to give birth. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Because he was born on December 25 which astrologically lies between the signs of Sagittarius, a horse, and Capricorn, the goat. Interesting? Bill Donohue explains more of his observations as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
I'm just going to let you figure that out, Bhairitu. It's not too difficult. Mike Dixon got it. Bhairitu wrote: And exactly what gaffe might that be? On 11/02/2013 09:17 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Even when you call a gaffe to Bhairitu's attention, he doesn't see it. Bhairitu wrote: Be careful where you step. Judy has lost her marbles again. Must be a sign of her advancing old age. On 11/01/2013 03:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Er, Bhairitu... No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: Bhairitu bumbled: Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: You don#39;t need a God to have a church, or to evangelize
Yeah, to promote, or oppose something, obsessively, is to get on its same energy level - both sides of the same issue. There is still no independence - no calmness, which is only found by transcending the issue, broadening the consciousness so that additional possibilities occur, without conflict. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Doc, I had a similar thought about turq. So, the question for me is: what makes a person an evangelist, even of not being an evangelist? I'd say how attached to or averted by or gripped by the thought or believe or POV or emotion or state one is. I actually think it's hard to see not only in ourselves, but also in others. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:33 AM, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Hey non-evangelist, evangelist, Have you ever actually *read* one of your own posts? You push you beliefs around here, like a steamroller. The pot calling the kettle black. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: At least they believe in something. And that's a Good Thing? I think everyone believes *something*. I certainly have beliefs, and I suspect everyone else on this forum does, too. One of my beliefs is that it may be crossing a line of spiritual and social etiquette in the opposite direction of Good Thing when what you believe becomes so important to you that you feel the need to evangelize it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html http://mag.newsweek.com/2013/11/01/atheism-evangelicals-christianity-religion.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!
Well, I wouldn't rule anything out, but I'm not sure the bankster lobby would approve of Elizabeth Warren's nomination. Go figure. On 11/2/2013 9:59 AM, sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, why isn't Elizabeth Warren on your list? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Let's see, the Democrats have Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden as possible candidates for the next presidential election. The Republicans have Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Rick Santorum, and Jeb Bush. Go figure. Here are a six reasons I won't be supporting Hillary Clinton: 1. She was in favor of invading Afghanistan. 2. She was opposed to a surge in Afghanistan. 3. She was in favor of invading Iraq. 4. She was opposed to the surge in Iraq. 5. She failed to protect the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. 6. She lied about the Benghazi attack and tried to cover it up, blaming it on a video. You probably won't be this on MSNBC any time soon: 'Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?' The Week: http://theweek.com/hillary-clintons-popularity-sliding http://theweek.com/article/index/252160/why-is-hillary-clintons-popularity-sliding 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble' Newsbusters: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mother-jones-shocker http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/11/01/mother-jones-shocker-new-poll-shows-democratic-incumbents-big-trouble#ixzz2jPrsL4lG On 11/1/2013 2:08 PM, Share Long wrote: Ha! Just proves that Emily and Judy don't know me at all. I would never vote for Hillary because IMO she acted like a door mat when she didn't divorce Bill after the Monica affair. On Fri, 11/1/13, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote: Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 1:49 PM
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
Damn...forgot the e! ;-( Thanks Judy, now that was polite (I think)nah! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Even when you call a gaffe to Bhairitu's attention, he doesn't see it. Bhairitu wrote: Be careful where you step. Judy has lost her marbles again. Must be a sign of her advancing old age. On 11/01/2013 03:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Er, Bhairitu... No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: Bhairitu bumbled: Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
Rick, I don't snicker to gain anyone's favor. Just when it's due, which is quite often with Bharitu's posts. He's a lovable, harmless character and very predictable. However, it would be scary if there were many more like him. LOL From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today Or, the reverse, that many here are seeking to curry favor with Judy, the leader of the Snickers, except for the two Barrys who don't seem to want to curry favor with anyone, so they too snicker a lot at everyone. Go figure.On 11/1/2013 11:38 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: No Share, you just have a nasty habit of attempting to curry favor with any Tom, Dick and Harry who happen to be willing to listen. Come on boys, give her a hand. (Was that a dirty thing to say?) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: Mike, somehow, in the total context of your post, snickering does not sound one iota as nasty as it does in the total context of Judy's post. Maybe I'm prejudiced. On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:47 PM, Mike Dixon mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote: Sorry Share, I don't mean to get involved in your and Judy's feud but I sure am snickering with Judy on that one. From: mailto:sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 5:36 PM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today I would bet that not one person on FFL is snickering at Bhairitu. But admit that I'm still amazed at how much nastiness Judy can pack into one short post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Er, Bhairitu... No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: Bhairitu bumbled: Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient).http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
[FairfieldLife] What lightning really looks like...
...if only you weren't trapped in this limited human timespace: http://www.snowaddiction.org/2013/08/super-slow-motion-lightning-strike-\ 1-second-in-3-minutes.html http://www.snowaddiction.org/2013/08/super-slow-motion-lightning-strike\ -1-second-in-3-minutes.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Black Hats and White Hats
On Thursday, the 21-year old San Antonio native will enter La Tuna Federal Correction Institute in Anthony, TX to begin a one-year and one day sentence for breaching Sony Pictures Entertainment in May 2011 as a member of Anonymous offshoot, LulzSec. 'The $600,000 Joyride' San Antonio Current: http://sacurrent.com/news/the-600-000-joyridehttp://sacurrent.com/news/the-600-000-joyride-local-hacker-and-former-lulzsec-member-on-why-he-went-to-prison-1.1576274 On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Let's see, on the one hand we have the personal privacy advocates, like Edward Snowden and Wikileak's Julian Assange, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. And, on the other hand we have social networking sites like Mark Zuckerberg's Facebook and micro blogging sites like Evan Williams's Twitter. And, in the middle we've got the FBI, IRS, CIA, NSA, ATF and the HS. And, you got your black hats and your white hats; you got your hackers and pirates; and you've got your worms and trojan horses. There's a PC on every desk, all running Microsoft Windows software. So, now Obama wants you to log on to a government site and enter all your personal data. Go figure. It also represents a dangerous normalization of ‘governing in the dark,’ where decisions with enormous public impact occur without any public input. 'Snowden Says He Took No Secret Files to Russia' New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/snowdenhttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/world/snowden-says-he-took-no-secret-files-to-russia.html?_r=0
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!
The rent is too damn high! [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: So, when I returned the two cable boxes to Time-Warner and to terminate the HD and DVR service, I asked them how much would it cost just to have basic cable. The guy said they would have to send out a technician to put a 'trap' on the line to filter out the other channels, so I told them to close the account. It's Friday and the cable is still active, but I have powered antennas from the Shack anyway. Go figure. The rent is too damn high! This week I took my daughter's PT Cruiser in to the dealership because she said the front was 'wobbling' at 35-40 mph. The service manager called back and said one of the front tires had a 'ball' on it. He recommended getting four new Goodyear Eagles, balanced and a front end alignment - $950. What!? Now, why would anyone want to pay close to $1000 to put Goodyear Eagles back on the same car that already had a Goodyear tire with a ball on it at 30,000 miles? So, I had the tires rotated, front to back, for $15 on the south side, sweet!. Maybe I'll buy two new Falken tires at Discount Tires. Go figure. The rent is too damn high!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Astrology in the New Testament
Seraphita, I believe the point was that Jesus was born in a stable where the animals, the horse and the goat, were sheltered. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Pedant's Corner: it's not written. It says instead And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger. Imagine Mary straddling a feeding trough to give birth. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Because he was born on December 25 which astrologically lies between the signs of Sagittarius, a horse, and Capricorn, the goat. Interesting? Bill Donohue explains more of his observations as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages appear when you scroll down. And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious respondents left here anyway. So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure. P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with. On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Astrology in the New Testament
Judy, I would tend to agree with you on this observation. From what I understand, it snows in Bethlehem during the winter months. So, it would not have been practical for the Romans to make the population travel to their tribal homes for a census. Also, astrologically, it can be justified that Jesus was born on September 21 or after, when the Sun is in its fall. Hence, he was born in a stable, a place unsuitable for a human being and for a future King. This would imply that Jesus was born as a Cancer ascendant in jyotish calculation. Why? Because the fourth house, meaning birth home, would be in Libra, the sign where the Sun is debilitated. Also, this ascendant would mean that the 10th house of career or accomplishment is in the sign of Aries, signifying the start of spring or rebirth from the death of the Sun during the winter months. Therefore, it is logical that Jesus would be known in history as the Redeemer who rose from the dead since the Sun (the symbol of Jesus) is exalted in Aries, the start of spring and the renewal of life here on earth. There is more to this subject. But I'll stop here for brevity. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Furthermore, Jesus couldn't have been born any later than September anyway, or the flocks of sheep wouldn't still have been out in the fields (Luke 2:8 http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Bible.show/sVerseID/24982/eVerseID/24982, And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night). It's pretty well established that by the 4th century CE, the presumptive date of Christ's birth had been moved to December 25 in an attempt to co-opt (or compete with) the Roman solstice festival. Seraphita wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Pedant's Corner: it's not written. It says instead And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger. Imagine Mary straddling a feeding trough to give birth. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Because he was born on December 25 which astrologically lies between the signs of Sagittarius, a horse, and Capricorn, the goat. Interesting? Bill Donohue explains more of his observations as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
The post a person is responding to (and sometimes a whole string of posts in an exchange) always appears when you click on the three dots in the bottom left of the Reply box--unless the person who wrote the post has deleted everything, which is what BillyG does. Apparently he doesn't like to feel that he's part of a discussion, so he gets rid of it all before posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages appear when you scroll down. And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious respondents left here anyway. So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure. P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with. On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Astrology in the New Testament
Which means your first point about Sagittarius and Capricorn is null and void. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Judy, I would tend to agree with you on this observation. From what I understand, it snows in Bethlehem during the winter months. So, it would not have been practical for the Romans to make the population travel to their tribal homes for a census. Also, astrologically, it can be justified that Jesus was born on September 21 or after, when the Sun is in its fall. Hence, he was born in a stable, a place unsuitable for a human being and for a future King. This would imply that Jesus was born as a Cancer ascendant in jyotish calculation. Why? Because the fourth house, meaning birth home, would be in Libra, the sign where the Sun is debilitated. Also, this ascendant would mean that the 10th house of career or accomplishment is in the sign of Aries, signifying the start of spring or rebirth from the death of the Sun during the winter months. Therefore, it is logical that Jesus would be known in history as the Redeemer who rose from the dead since the Sun (the symbol of Jesus) is exalted in Aries, the start of spring and the renewal of life here on earth. There is more to this subject. But I'll stop here for brevity. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Furthermore, Jesus couldn't have been born any later than September anyway, or the flocks of sheep wouldn't still have been out in the fields (Luke 2:8 http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Bible.show/sVerseID/24982/eVerseID/24982, And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night). It's pretty well established that by the 4th century CE, the presumptive date of Christ's birth had been moved to December 25 in an attempt to co-opt (or compete with) the Roman solstice festival. Seraphita wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Pedant's Corner: it's not written. It says instead And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger. Imagine Mary straddling a feeding trough to give birth. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Because he was born on December 25 which astrologically lies between the signs of Sagittarius, a horse, and Capricorn, the goat. Interesting? Bill Donohue explains more of his observations as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t
[FairfieldLife] Harmony
Given the response to my recent posts about Crosby, Stills, Nash, I shall continue on the general theme of vocal harmony. It's to some extent a lost art in modern music, and that, to my way of seeing, is a pity. It's a high art. One of the best harmonists I know of in music is Emmylou Harris. In her taste for this artform, she continues in the footsteps of her mentor, Gram Parsons, and his love for the country harmonies he grew up with and introduced her to. Although I appreciate the more formal art of musical composition, and charting out harmonies on sheet music before attempting to perform them, for me, there is nothing quite like spontaneous harmony, the thing that happens between two or more musicians who suddenly find themselves on the same musical wavelength during the performance of the same song, spontaneously. Here are a few examples. With Rodney Crowell (pure Louvin Brothers harmony): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw With John Starling (from the folk group Seldom Scene): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk With Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o With Mark Knopfler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I With Gram: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk
[FairfieldLife] RE: Harmony
Most people like to hear harmony in a song. But I don't believe the singers in the clip were singing in harmony spontaneously. They've rehearsed the songs and had cues on which part of the song they will sing in unison and which part the lead singer will take the solo. Nonetheless, it is a delicate art to create a song that can deliver a tune with the right balance of solo, harmony, beat and melody. When the balance is right, a great hit is born. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Given the response to my recent posts about Crosby, Stills, Nash, I shall continue on the general theme of vocal harmony. It's to some extent a lost art in modern music, and that, to my way of seeing, is a pity. It's a high art. One of the best harmonists I know of in music is Emmylou Harris. In her taste for this artform, she continues in the footsteps of her mentor, Gram Parsons, and his love for the country harmonies he grew up with and introduced her to. Although I appreciate the more formal art of musical composition, and charting out harmonies on sheet music before attempting to perform them, for me, there is nothing quite like spontaneous harmony, the thing that happens between two or more musicians who suddenly find themselves on the same musical wavelength during the performance of the same song, spontaneously. Here are a few examples. With Rodney Crowell (pure Louvin Brothers harmony): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw With John Starling (from the folk group Seldom Scene): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKskhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk With Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-ohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o With Mark Knopfler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I With Gram: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3ukhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Thanks for the tip ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The post a person is responding to (and sometimes a whole string of posts in an exchange) always appears when you click on the three dots in the bottom left of the Reply box--unless the person who wrote the post has deleted everything, which is what BillyG does. Apparently he doesn't like to feel that he's part of a discussion, so he gets rid of it all before posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages appear when you scroll down. And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious respondents left here anyway. So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure. P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with. On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
You and Dixon must be imagining something or it got screwed up on the web site. The is no gaffe in this line: Judy, the conspiracy theorist. If you are talking about the comma then you need a new Strunk and White. But if you are talking about the shooting was between two TSA agents that's what the news outlets were saying when I posted it. They later recanted. There are no misspellings even though Thunderbird is fucked up and random these days about underlining misspellings. But who really cares about that on a message board anyway? On 11/02/2013 09:52 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *I'm just going to let you figure that out, Bhairitu. It's not too difficult. Mike Dixon got it. * * Bhairitu wrote: * And exactly what gaffe might that be? On 11/02/2013 09:17 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Even when you call a gaffe to Bhairitu's attention, he doesn't see it. * *Bhairitu wrote:* Be careful where you step. Judy has lost her marbles again. Must be a sign of her advancing old age. On 11/01/2013 03:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: *Er, Bhairitu...* * * *No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: * * * *Bhairitu bumbled:* Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!
That's cheap! It's $3.59 here in a refinery town. But then we probably have much higher gas taxes than Texas. On 11/02/2013 11:01 AM, Richard Williams wrote: The rent is too damn high! Inline image 1 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com mailto:pundits...@gmail.com wrote: So, when I returned the two cable boxes to Time-Warner and to terminate the HD and DVR service, I asked them how much would it cost just to have basic cable. The guy said they would have to send out a technician to put a 'trap' on the line to filter out the other channels, so I told them to close the account. It's Friday and the cable is still active, but I have powered antennas from the Shack anyway. Go figure. The rent is too damn high! This week I took my daughter's PT Cruiser in to the dealership because she said the front was 'wobbling' at 35-40 mph. The service manager called back and said one of the front tires had a 'ball' on it. He recommended getting four new Goodyear Eagles, balanced and a front end alignment - $950. What!? Now, why would anyone want to pay close to $1000 to put Goodyear Eagles back on the same car that already had a Goodyear tire with a ball on it at 30,000 miles? So, I had the tires rotated, front to back, for $15 on the south side, sweet!. Maybe I'll buy two new Falken tires at Discount Tires. Go figure. The rent is too damn high!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Harmony
One has to be careful when dealing with pop artists' musical training. Some had formal training and it was purposefully omitted from bios. Don't forget back in the day when there was still music education in schools they had choir classes. Many of those student learned to read music and sing complicated musical pieces with complex harmony. A popular piece in the 1950s was Poinciana a latin tune with modern harmonies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4NafK3NFhA A high school choir learning that one song with it's upper partials of chords was enough to allow them to sing a lot of other songs with complex harmonies. It seemed that about every high school choir back in the day was singing. And don't underestimate what some artists learned from being in church choirs. On 11/02/2013 12:22 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Given the response to my recent posts about Crosby, Stills, Nash, I shall continue on the general theme of vocal harmony. It's to some extent a lost art in modern music, and that, to my way of seeing, is a pity. It's a high art. One of the best harmonists I know of in music is Emmylou Harris. In her taste for this artform, she continues in the footsteps of her mentor, Gram Parsons, and his love for the country harmonies he grew up with and introduced her to. Although I appreciate the more formal art of musical composition, and charting out harmonies on sheet music before attempting to perform them, for me, there is nothing quite like spontaneous harmony, the thing that happens between two or more musicians who suddenly find themselves on the same musical wavelength during the performance of the same song, spontaneously. Here are a few examples. With Rodney Crowell (pure Louvin Brothers harmony): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw With John Starling (from the folk group Seldom Scene): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk With Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o With Mark Knopfler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I With Gram: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Astrology in the New Testament
John, one theory I've heard is that Jesus was born with Sun in Pisces. Thus the fish symbol for Christianity and a bunch of other stuff which I no longer remember. I do think Jesus embodied that universal love that can be associated with Pisces. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 11:51 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Furthermore, Jesus couldn't have been born any later than September anyway, or the flocks of sheep wouldn't still have been out in the fields (Luke 2:8, And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night). It's pretty well established that by the 4th century CE, the presumptive date of Christ's birth had been moved to December 25 in an attempt to co-opt (or compete with) the Roman solstice festival. Seraphita wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Pedant's Corner: it's not written. It says instead And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger. Imagine Mary straddling a feeding trough to give birth. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Because he was born on December 25 which astrologically lies between the signs of Sagittarius, a horse, and Capricorn, the goat. Interesting? Bill Donohue explains more of his observations as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t
Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
OTOH, some posters have scolded some other posters for NOT snipping! Go figure! On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:06 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks for the tip ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The post a person is responding to (and sometimes a whole string of posts in an exchange) always appears when you click on the three dots in the bottom left of the Reply box--unless the person who wrote the post has deleted everything, which is what BillyG does. Apparently he doesn't like to feel that he's part of a discussion, so he gets rid of it all before posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages appear when you scroll down. And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious respondents left here anyway. So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure. P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with. On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfriend@... wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today
LOL. No, has nothing to do with punctuation or spelling. Nothing to do with the details of the story, either. Try again. Bhairitu wrote: You and Dixon must be imagining something or it got screwed up on the web site. The is no gaffe in this line: Judy, the conspiracy theorist. If you are talking about the comma then you need a new Strunk and White. But if you are talking about the shooting was between two TSA agents that's what the news outlets were saying when I posted it. They later recanted. There are no misspellings even though Thunderbird is fucked up and random these days about underlining misspellings. But who really cares about that on a message board anyway? On 11/02/2013 09:52 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I'm just going to let you figure that out, Bhairitu. It's not too difficult. Mike Dixon got it. Bhairitu wrote: And exactly what gaffe might that be? On 11/02/2013 09:17 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Even when you call a gaffe to Bhairitu's attention, he doesn't see it. Bhairitu wrote: Be careful where you step. Judy has lost her marbles again. Must be a sign of her advancing old age. On 11/01/2013 03:13 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Er, Bhairitu... No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: Bhairitu bumbled: Judy, the conspiracy theorist. On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract attention from the food stamp cuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient). http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/ The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Oh, did you think you were making a snappy, relevant comment here, Share? Share flubbed: OTOH, some posters have scolded some other posters for NOT snipping! Go figure! You really just don't seem to be getting it about not posting any old thing that comes to your mind without giving it a bit of a think first. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:06 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks for the tip ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The post a person is responding to (and sometimes a whole string of posts in an exchange) always appears when you click on the three dots in the bottom left of the Reply box--unless the person who wrote the post has deleted everything, which is what BillyG does. Apparently he doesn't like to feel that he's part of a discussion, so he gets rid of it all before posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages appear when you scroll down. And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious respondents left here anyway. So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure. P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with. On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Harmony
The harmony in those videos is pretty much all standard, not some inspired creative serendipitous epiphany. It's fine harmony; I'm not criticizing it, but any musicians familiar with the genre would be likely to sing virtually the same harmonies, whether they'd rehearsed them or not. The Beatles wrote original harmony in many of their songs, but that isn't what this is. (P.S.: Anybody know why each of Barry's videos appears three times in the same post?) John wrote: Most people like to hear harmony in a song. But I don't believe the singers in the clip were singing in harmony spontaneously. They've rehearsed the songs and had cues on which part of the song they will sing in unison and which part the lead singer will take the solo. Nonetheless, it is a delicate art to create a song that can deliver a tune with the right balance of solo, harmony, beat and melody. When the balance is right, a great hit is born. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Given the response to my recent posts about Crosby, Stills, Nash, I shall continue on the general theme of vocal harmony. It's to some extent a lost art in modern music, and that, to my way of seeing, is a pity. It's a high art. One of the best harmonists I know of in music is Emmylou Harris. In her taste for this artform, she continues in the footsteps of her mentor, Gram Parsons, and his love for the country harmonies he grew up with and introduced her to. Although I appreciate the more formal art of musical composition, and charting out harmonies on sheet music before attempting to perform them, for me, there is nothing quite like spontaneous harmony, the thing that happens between two or more musicians who suddenly find themselves on the same musical wavelength during the performance of the same song, spontaneously. Here are a few examples. With Rodney Crowell (pure Louvin Brothers harmony): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw With John Starling (from the folk group Seldom Scene): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKskhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk With Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-ohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o With Mark Knopfler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I With Gram: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3ukhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Astrology in the New Testament
Share, An argument can be made for Pisces as the birth month of Jesus. Specifically, Pisces is a sign owned by Jupiter, the teacher of the gods. So, by analogy, Jesus was born as a teacher in this world during Kali Yuga. Also, since Pisces is the 7th house from Virgo, he is associated with a virgin, which in this case is Mary, his mother. Santos Bonacci, another astrologer, stated in his presentation that Pisces can be considered as the womb since the sign is watery. Bill Donohue, in the video clip, further pointed out that Pisces represents the disciples of Jesus, who were mostly fishermen, and were tasked to become the fishers of men. Lastly, Dohohue stated that Pisces represented the miracle that Jesus performed when he multiplied the fish and bread to feed the hungry followers during the Sermon on the Mount. There are many other points, but I'll cut if off here for brevity. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: John, one theory I've heard is that Jesus was born with Sun in Pisces. Thus the fish symbol for Christianity and a bunch of other stuff which I no longer remember. I do think Jesus embodied that universal love that can be associated with Pisces. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 11:51 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Furthermore, Jesus couldn't have been born any later than September anyway, or the flocks of sheep wouldn't still have been out in the fields (Luke 2:8 http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Bible.show/sVerseID/24982/eVerseID/24982, And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night). It's pretty well established that by the 4th century CE, the presumptive date of Christ's birth had been moved to December 25 in an attempt to co-opt (or compete with) the Roman solstice festival. Seraphita wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Pedant's Corner: it's not written. It says instead And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger. Imagine Mary straddling a feeding trough to give birth. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger? Because he was born on December 25 which astrologically lies between the signs of Sagittarius, a horse, and Capricorn, the goat. Interesting? Bill Donohue explains more of his observations as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBglist=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t
[FairfieldLife] RE: Harmony
Now you guys got me going here. Many years ago we saw the Manhattan Transfer in Sacramento, CA. They were excellent in harmonizing songs. Here they sing Route 66: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQwb4SpNuKo For the record, I've been to some of the towns mentioned in this song, namely Barstow, San Bernardino, and Kingman, AZ. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: The harmony in those videos is pretty much all standard, not some inspired creative serendipitous epiphany. It's fine harmony; I'm not criticizing it, but any musicians familiar with the genre would be likely to sing virtually the same harmonies, whether they'd rehearsed them or not. The Beatles wrote original harmony in many of their songs, but that isn't what this is. (P.S.: Anybody know why each of Barry's videos appears three times in the same post?) John wrote: Most people like to hear harmony in a song. But I don't believe the singers in the clip were singing in harmony spontaneously. They've rehearsed the songs and had cues on which part of the song they will sing in unison and which part the lead singer will take the solo. Nonetheless, it is a delicate art to create a song that can deliver a tune with the right balance of solo, harmony, beat and melody. When the balance is right, a great hit is born. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Given the response to my recent posts about Crosby, Stills, Nash, I shall continue on the general theme of vocal harmony. It's to some extent a lost art in modern music, and that, to my way of seeing, is a pity. It's a high art. One of the best harmonists I know of in music is Emmylou Harris. In her taste for this artform, she continues in the footsteps of her mentor, Gram Parsons, and his love for the country harmonies he grew up with and introduced her to. Although I appreciate the more formal art of musical composition, and charting out harmonies on sheet music before attempting to perform them, for me, there is nothing quite like spontaneous harmony, the thing that happens between two or more musicians who suddenly find themselves on the same musical wavelength during the performance of the same song, spontaneously. Here are a few examples. With Rodney Crowell (pure Louvin Brothers harmony): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw With John Starling (from the folk group Seldom Scene): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKskhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk With Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-ohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o With Mark Knopfler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I With Gram: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3ukhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk
[FairfieldLife] RE: Harmony
Yeah, right on. I really enjoyed groups like the zep, and Fairport Convention, for their harmony - early Fleetwood Mac, 'Bare Trees', too. I saw Emmy Lou before she was big (in a coffee shop, Corvallis, OR - '73 ish), and how could you not fall in love? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Given the response to my recent posts about Crosby, Stills, Nash, I shall continue on the general theme of vocal harmony. It's to some extent a lost art in modern music, and that, to my way of seeing, is a pity. It's a high art. One of the best harmonists I know of in music is Emmylou Harris. In her taste for this artform, she continues in the footsteps of her mentor, Gram Parsons, and his love for the country harmonies he grew up with and introduced her to. Although I appreciate the more formal art of musical composition, and charting out harmonies on sheet music before attempting to perform them, for me, there is nothing quite like spontaneous harmony, the thing that happens between two or more musicians who suddenly find themselves on the same musical wavelength during the performance of the same song, spontaneously. Here are a few examples. With Rodney Crowell (pure Louvin Brothers harmony): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8EqgRk-nw With John Starling (from the folk group Seldom Scene): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKskhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYs2RbCcKsk With Dolly Parton and Linda Ronstadt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-ohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnieh0Y1V-o With Mark Knopfler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsMO0A1iE0I With Gram: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3ukhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO8C9fqC3uk
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Special Knowledge Meeting in the Dome
Dateline: Fairfield, Iowa. Good meeting. A full amphitheater at Dalby Hall on MUM campus. Good foundational lecture/video by Maharishi visiting Fairfield back when the Fairfield meditating community was raising the first Dome. Group meditation numbers in those days from the places around campus were around 1500 in those days. After the video was some time for some q and a discussion. A question was asked of the group there, how many people there at this meeting were there for the lecture by Maharishi originally. About half of the room. That was really interesting to note we are still quite the old experienced veteran group of the old movement of those days when you consider that. It was a good meditating community meeting. Was striking how patient Bevan was although he could also have every right to be impatient with things too given the numbers of how things are going. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yep, venue is at Dalby Hall Saturday, November 2nd at 1:30 pm Dalby Hall Notice how much softer and inclusive this announcement reads than the original announcement by substituting the words 'meditating community' for the words 'Yogic Flyers'? Turqb mentioned a while ago how alienating it is to drive with the yogic flyer distinction between meditators of the community. There is a valid observation there. Is interesting the administration is determined to drive the distinction seemingly to the end. -Buck Saturday, November 2nd at 1:30 pm Dalby Hall ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Buck, the poster I saw said it was being held in Dalby Hall. Video of Maharishi's historic lecture of Dec. 27, 1979, where he discussed with the meditating community of the Creating Coherence Program their deepest experiences. This event happened in the Field House during Maharishi's visit to Maharishi International University to witness the final stages of the building of the first Golden Dome. This tape has been rarely seen. There will be plenty of time for questions and answers, and discussion. Jai Guru Dev -Buck
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RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Actually, I appreciated Judy's tip, (being relatively new to this format) though her suggestion that I relished it, for some crazy reason, is rather unfounded. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OTOH, some posters have scolded some other posters for NOT snipping! Go figure! On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:06 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks for the tip ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The post a person is responding to (and sometimes a whole string of posts in an exchange) always appears when you click on the three dots in the bottom left of the Reply box--unless the person who wrote the post has deleted everything, which is what BillyG does. Apparently he doesn't like to feel that he's part of a discussion, so he gets rid of it all before posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages appear when you scroll down. And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious respondents left here anyway. So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure. P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with. On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Special Knowledge Meeting in the Dome
Good meeting. A full amphitheater at Dalby Hall on MUM campus. Good foundational lecture/video by Maharishi visiting Fairfield, Iowa back when the Fairfield meditating community was raising the first Dome. Group meditation numbers in those days from the places around campus were around 1500. After the video was time for some q and a discussion. A question was asked of the group there, how many people present at this meeting were there for the lecture by Maharishi originally? About half of the room. That was really interesting to note the depth to which we are still quite the seasoned experienced veteran group of the old movement of those days when you consider that. It was a good meditating community meeting. I was struck by how patient Bevan is although he could also have every right to be impatient with things too given the circumstance of the numbers of how things have gone. Was a meeting of the meditating community here in progress. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yep, venue is at Dalby Hall Saturday, November 2nd at 1:30 pm Dalby Hall Notice how much softer and inclusive this announcement reads than the original announcement by substituting the words 'meditating community' for the words 'Yogic Flyers'? Turqb mentioned a while ago how alienating it is to drive with the yogic flyer distinction between meditators of the community. There is a valid observation there. Is interesting the administration is determined to drive the distinction seemingly to the end. -Buck Saturday, November 2nd at 1:30 pm Dalby Hall ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Buck, the poster I saw said it was being held in Dalby Hall. Video of Maharishi's historic lecture of Dec. 27, 1979, where he discussed with the meditating community of the Creating Coherence Program their deepest experiences. This event happened in the Field House during Maharishi's visit to Maharishi International University to witness the final stages of the building of the first Golden Dome. This tape has been rarely seen. There will be plenty of time for questions and answers, and discussion. Jai Guru Dev -Buck
[FairfieldLife] AVM#39;s
Wow, 15 years ago today I had an AVM stroke. Praises be to my brain surgeon and the Unified Field in the form of the hand of Shiva. I live. After meditation now tonight I am going dancing. -Buck http://www.strokeassociation.org/STROKEORG/AboutStroke/TypesofStroke/HemorrhagicBleeds/What-Is-an-Arteriovenous-Malformation-AVM_UCM_310099_Article.jsp http://www.strokeassociation.org/STROKEORG/AboutStroke/TypesofStroke/HemorrhagicBleeds/What-Is-an-Arteriovenous-Malformation-AVM_UCM_310099_Article.jsp
[FairfieldLife] Baby dreams
Unbelievably wonderful: http://www.boredpanda.org/wengenn-in-wonderland-sioin-queenie-liao http://www.boredpanda.org/wengenn-in-wonderland-sioin-queenie-liao
Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
William, I wasn't referring to Judy in terms of posters scolding about people not snipping. She wasn't the one who was doing that. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:58 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, did you think you were making a snappy, relevant comment here, Share? Share flubbed: OTOH, some posters have scolded some other posters for NOT snipping! Go figure! You really just don't seem to be getting it about not posting any old thing that comes to your mind without giving it a bit of a think first. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:06 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks for the tip ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The post a person is responding to (and sometimes a whole string of posts in an exchange) always appears when you click on the three dots in the bottom left of the Reply box--unless the person who wrote the post has deleted everything, which is what BillyG does. Apparently he doesn't like to feel that he's part of a discussion, so he gets rid of it all before posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages appear when you scroll down. And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious respondents left here anyway. So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure. P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with. On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfriend@... wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Astrology in the New Testament
Astrology is outside my field of expertise. (Along with a hell of a lot of other stuff, of course.) But your mentioning the astrological dimension brings up something else I've always felt strongly about. And that is: whoever the people were who wrote the Gospel accounts they were emphatically not the naive peasant/worker types - which is the impression you get from Sunday School - but instead they were well-educated and sophisticated and expected their writings to be read by a similar class of people. Alas, the whole field has been dumbed down - like most of modern education!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Baby dreams
Brilliant. Amazing what these kids get up to in their sleep. Such inventive uses of blankets and sheets and so many ways to make an inert child appear busy! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Unbelievably wonderful: http://www.boredpanda.org/wengenn-in-wonderland-sioin-queenie-liao http://www.boredpanda.org/wengenn-in-wonderland-sioin-queenie-liao
[FairfieldLife] RE: Harmony
Yes Man Tran were good - a bit AOR maybe? - a bit commercial maybe? Here's some quality music. Pentangle in their heyday: http://tinyurl.com/od9g4u4 http://tinyurl.com/od9g4u4 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Now you guys got me going here. Many years ago we saw the Manhattan Transfer in Sacramento, CA. They were excellent in harmonizing songs. Here they sing Route 66:
[FairfieldLife] Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult
Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water. http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?
Did you mean to respond to BilllyG's post, Share, rather than this one? Share wrote: William, I wasn't referring to Judy in terms of posters scolding about people not snipping. She wasn't the one who was doing that. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:58 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Oh, did you think you were making a snappy, relevant comment here, Share? Share flubbed: OTOH, some posters have scolded some other posters for NOT snipping! Go figure! You really just don't seem to be getting it about not posting any old thing that comes to your mind without giving it a bit of a think first. On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:06 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Thanks for the tip ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The post a person is responding to (and sometimes a whole string of posts in an exchange) always appears when you click on the three dots in the bottom left of the Reply box--unless the person who wrote the post has deleted everything, which is what BillyG does. Apparently he doesn't like to feel that he's part of a discussion, so he gets rid of it all before posting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages appear when you scroll down. And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious respondents left here anyway. So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure. P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with. On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but rather only to make proclamations.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult
I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water. http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
[FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult
Doc. What did you experience after four hours without food or water? Were you also meditating during the fast? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I did it, once, for *four* solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. Nothing - not even a peanut, or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called Horse. Even so, I am working with a teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). This is a tough crowd, here on FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader. After all, I've been around the block. Don't knock it, 'til you've tried it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Michelle Pfeiffer, the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or water. http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
[FairfieldLife] Before the British Invasion
During the 1950s when rock 'n' roll reigned supreme young British rockers tried to imitate their American heroes with pretty cringe-worthy songs. One guy who came closest to pulling it off was Vince Taylor. He eventually became a victim of drugs and alcohol. At one point, in front of a large audience at a concert in London, Taylor declared himself the biblical apostle Matthew . His biggest claim to fame is that, according to David Bowie, Taylor was the main inspiration for Bowie's character Ziggy Stardust. Anyway, here's his 1959 classic Brand New Cadillac. : http://tinyurl.com/pe58f5s http://tinyurl.com/pe58f5s
