[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out
I think it was more than 10 years ago. I was a 30 year old kid. I think it was on another forum. My memory has become hazy. Maybe salyavin might remember it. --- steve.sundur@... wrote : can you elaborate? --- jason_green2@... wrote : By the way, I remember talking to you more than 8 years ago. But, I am not sure that was it's on this forum or another forum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life
BTW, it looks as if Salyavin was correct about the way this The Principle video was made, with the producers misleading the experts and even (see quote that follows from Wikipedia) the narrator as to what the nature of the show they were producing was. I happen to know the producer of the What the Bleep... videos, and know that they were made the same way, with the producers lying to the supposed onscreen scientists and experts about what their film/agenda was really about, and then taking their actual comments completely out of context within the film itself. This is the sort of garbage that JohnR feels is authoritative. What a wanker... Claims Following the release of the film's trailer, narrator Kate Mulgrew said that she was misinformed as to the purpose of the documentary.[7][8] Max Tegmark claims that DeLano cleverly tricked a whole bunch of us scientists into thinking that they were independent filmmakers doing an ordinary cosmology documentary, without mentioning anything about their hidden agenda.[9] George Ellis has said that I was interviewed for it but they did not disclose this agenda, which of course is nonsense. I don't think it's worth responding to -- it just gives them publicity. To ignore is the best policy. But for the record, I totally disavow that silly agenda.[9] Michio Kaku said that the film was likely clever editing of his statements and bordered on intellectual dishonesty[2] and Lawrence Krauss said he had no recollection of being interviewed for the film and would have refused to be in it if he had known more about it.[10][11] Julian Barbour claims he never gave permission to be in the film. The Principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Principle is a 2014 American documentary film produced by Rick Delano and Robert Sungenis questioning the Copernican principle and discussing geocentricism. The film opened in Chicago on October 24, 2014. The film is narrated by Kate Mulgrew and features scientists such ... View on en.wikipedia.org Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life Heh. I knew you'd love this BS, jr. It's right up your alley, *including* attempts to redefine the universe as Earth-centric. It's like New Age Self-Importance Meets Medieval Cosmology Re-expressed As Woo Woo Physics. :-) You seem to be under the impression, however, that we actually CARE about what YOU believe. I can't speak for Sal, but given the way that you've demonstrated your mind works over the years on this forum, nothing you believe could *possibly* interest me. Therefore I'll let you find the real video and report on it here to those as gullible as yourself. :-) From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life Salyavin and Barry, Both of you have jumped to conclusions, which is very typical with the way you think, about the content of this video. As you have seen, the video is only a teaser or excerpt of the real video--which you have not seen. Therefore, you've made criticism about something you don't know anything about and have assumed what the content of the video is. Both of you are not rational. You are delusional. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Gosh, that might really ruined Salyavin's day. :-D Why? They possibly found life there in the 70's but they landed the rover in the wrong place and two of the three experiments they had on board to test for life weren't designed for the terrain they found themselves in. The one experiment that possibly did find life was discounted as they did it on a majority vote. All expeditions to Mars since then have worked on the basis that there is no life and they haven't repeated the original experiments to make sure. Why would discovering life anywhere ruin my day? I can't work that bit out. You aren't going to get anywhere by asking questions of John, Sal. As I've pointed out many times and as you yourself have noticed, no possibility of actual dialogue exists with someone who is as gullible, feeble-minded, devoid of reasoning skills, and convinced of the Absolute Truth of the silly things he believes as he is. He's the kinda guy who would actually *believe* the horseshit in this video I found on FB: The Principle | Facebook The Principle | Facebook Why are leading atheists freaking out about this
[FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : I think it was more than 10 years ago. I was a 30 year old kid. I think it was on another forum. My memory has become hazy. Maybe salyavin might remember it. Eh? fraid not, I've only been on FFL as far as TM things go. Didn't even have my own computer ten years ago --- steve.sundur@... wrote : can you elaborate? --- jason_green2@... wrote : By the way, I remember talking to you more than 8 years ago. But, I am not sure that was it's on this forum or another forum.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life
Good find. I recognised Krauss and I know Michio Kaku from BBC documentaries, they do both have a penchant for talking up the weird aspects of particle physics so I could see where you'd get your ammunition from if you wanted to do this sort of thing. Bit cheeky though... I will still watch the film of course, I expect it's about the apparent fine tuning of the universe for life like us as that's a hot topic at the moment. And some people see it as evidence of design. It all comes down to the initial state during the big bang, if the interaction between charged particles was a few percent smaller no planets would ever have formed and if the expansion rate at the start had been only slightly higher there would be no stars. No stars means no elements heavier than hydrogen and consequently no life. This all gets spun by some into proof that the universe was designed for us. The wiggle room they have is that there isn't yet a good and accepted explanation of why the universe is like it is and not some other way. Seems obvious to me that if it was another way at the start we wouldn't be here to comment on it. Is it just a coincidence, or are some people reaching for the God of the Gaps to fulfill their own need for a creator? Speculation amongst people who don't need a god to explain things brings the solution down to: it's just randomly like that or we wouldn't be here. Our universe is part of a multiverse where every possible universe happens and we just live in the bit capable of supporting us. Or there may have been millions of universes that couldn't sustain life, or even matter, and fell apart leaving space for the right one to eventually come along with us to comment on it. Or something else no one has thought of yet. Whatever the answer is it's going to be something simple because it always is, you can't start inventing a need for complexity just to provide room for something you want. It's a silly way to carry on. But you can make a film about it being all a bit weird if you like... Just all a guess on what it's about, I shall watch it when it arrives and see what they're on about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : BTW, it looks as if Salyavin was correct about the way this The Principle video was made, with the producers misleading the experts and even (see quote that follows from Wikipedia) the narrator as to what the nature of the show they were producing was. I happen to know the producer of the What the Bleep... videos, and know that they were made the same way, with the producers lying to the supposed onscreen scientists and experts about what their film/agenda was really about, and then taking their actual comments completely out of context within the film itself. This is the sort of garbage that JohnR feels is authoritative. What a wanker... Claims Following the release of the film's trailer, narrator Kate Mulgrew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Mulgrew said that she was misinformed as to the purpose of the documentary.[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-7[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-8 Max Tegmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Tegmark claims that DeLano cleverly tricked a whole bunch of us scientists into thinking that they were independent filmmakers doing an ordinary cosmology documentary, without mentioning anything about their hidden agenda.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-PopSci-9 George Ellis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ellis has said that I was interviewed for it but they did not disclose this agenda, which of course is nonsense. I don't think it's worth responding to -- it just gives them publicity. To ignore is the best policy. But for the record, I totally disavow that silly agenda.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-PopSci-9 Michio Kaku said that the film was likely clever editing of his statements and bordered on intellectual dishonesty[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-yahoo-2 and Lawrence Krauss said he had no recollection of being interviewed for the film and would have refused to be in it if he had known more about it.[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-10[11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-11 Julian Barbour claims he never gave permission to be in the film. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-think_progress-12 The Principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-think_progress-12 The Principle is a 2014 American documentary film produced by Rick Delano and Robert Sungenis questioning the Copernican principle and discussing geocentricism. The film opened in Chicago on October 24, 2014. The film is narrated by Kate Mulgrew and features scientists such ... View on en.wikipedia.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM gives huge boost to homeless man with hiv
Nice, thanks for posting. So TM can be life-changing ? Just imagine what it could do for fellows like MJ and the Turq ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : How Transcendental Meditation Changed This HIV Patient's Life http://www.msn.com/en-my/health/other/how-transcendental-meditation-changed-this-hiv-patients-life/ar-BBdbmXI http://www.msn.com/en-my/health/other/how-transcendental-meditation-changed-this-hiv-patients-life/ar-BBdbmXI How Transcendental Meditation Changed This H... http://www.msn.com/en-my/health/other/how-transcendental-meditation-changed-this-hiv-patients-life/ar-BBdbmXI Transcendental Meditation boasts major health benefits, but for some, the practice can be truly life-changing. Michael Rouppet from the San Franc... View on www.msn.com http://www.msn.com/en-my/health/other/how-transcendental-meditation-changed-this-hiv-patients-life/ar-BBdbmXI Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Blue Lagoon
http://i0.wp.com/grapevine.is/wp-content/uploads/bluelagoon2.jpg In addition to challenging electronic music’s relationship to its exterior surroundings, Margeir also considers it in relation to the listener’s interior: the mind. He meditates twice a day, every day, for at least twenty minutes. “I use the technique called TM (transcendental meditation), which is the technique that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi taught The Beatles in the 60s,” he explains. “If there’s one thing that I would recommend that you could do with your life, I would say ‘meditate.’ That’s my advice—to everyone.” Some People out there in the real world are actually having fun: Blue lagoon - Iceland Airwaves 2011 - DJ Margeir + Human Woman + Beka Hoop crowdsurfing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 Blue lagoon - Iceland Airwaves 2011 - DJ Margeir... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 The Blue lagoon party at Iceland Airwaves 2011... DJ Margeir (from Gluteus Maximus) + Human Woman aka Sexy Lazer DJ Magic + Beka Hoop crowdsu... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Pl... http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks ago ... View on organichealth.co http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be
no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my
car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-:
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
Ann, if you're genuinely grateful for my revealing post then why don't you do
the same and reveal whether you thought empty's post was funny or not?
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, the elections are over. You can stop running for office. By which I mean,
you seem just like a politician when you don't say whether you found it LOL
worthy or not.
Usually in conversation a person would say something like: I didn't find that
funny and I'm curious as to why you did.
Then again, I realize that the only time you get humor is when you're writing
something nasty but clever attacking turq.
So, for the humor challenged:it was funny to me when empty called himself a
Tantrik legend in his own mindlitement was funny to meRupee Sutra was funny to
meeppee-tomee was funny to megittin was funny to me
Thank you for this revealing post.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM gives huge boost to homeless man with hiv
This is why I support TM. Because it has the ability to relieve human
suffering.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM gives huge boost to homeless man with hiv
Nice, thanks for posting. So TM can be life-changing ? Just imagine what it
could do for fellows like MJ and the Turq !
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to occur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, when I think about how awful were the last 3 years of my step Dad's life, and more than once he expressed the wish to be dead, I think suicide is sometimes the right thing to do. I think unnecessary suffering is morally wrong. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Bhairitu, You've raised a good question. But it is considered a higher principle that the end does not justify the means. In other words, one must act licitly to make a moral act. You cannot kill another person or group of persons in order to obtain political power--which we can see the evil effects that are happening in Iraq and Syria. Similarly, the same principle applies to taking one's own life. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : If you were suffering from terminalbrain cancer would you really want to see it through to the end asyour mind, vision, hearing went away? On 11/04/2014 10:36 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: A woman just committed suicide with the aid ofdoctors in Oregon. Is this justifiable in your ownthinking? Vaticanthinker brands US woman's suicide 'wicked' | | | | | |Vaticanthinker brands US woman's suicide'wicke... A senior Vaticanofficial has condemned
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Ann, replying to your analogy of farting in the room, I don't think what you do
wrt turq is open a window. I think it's more like farting in turq's direction
which of course is also farting in the room.
As for your comment about garden variety of toxicity I addressed that.
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, I'd say it depends on your intention, esp your general intention in
living. Do you want to benefit yourself and others? Or do you want to do harm?
As for the rest, I think it's pretty simple. If someone is harming us and won't
stop, then we remove ourselves from their life. If someone is harming others
and won't stop, then we put them in jail until they can be rehabilitated.
Sometimes jail is not possible and I personally don't think jail cures anyone
of anything, in fact, jail mostly makes bad guys badder. And of course you are
talking about a criminal level of toxicity when you talk about jail. Most of
the toxicity is not something you could incarcerate someone for. I'm talking
garden variety toxicity.
Here online, if someone says something untrue, we say what is true. If someone
says something we don't agree with, we say we don't agree. If someone is a
jerk, we say we think that, ONE time. To say it over and over is imo a sign
that the name caller is projecting and or venting.
I think a lot of the nastiness online is people venting what they are unwilling
or unable to vent about in their 3D life.
If the asshole keeps on and on and on then one time is often not enough in
terms of responding to it or attempting to deflect the untruths or negativity.
When someone keeps farting in the room you just can't get away with opening the
window once.
Again, my opinion.
Ditto. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Fleetwood, in many fairytales, if the king and queen don't invite the Wicked
Witch to the birth celebration of their baby, then she arrives anyway and puts
a curse on the little one! Meaning that we all have toxic elements in us to
some degree. If we don't deal with them in a healthy way, then they show up in
our life as allegedly toxic people, etc.
First you call people toxic. Next thing you know, you're burning them at the
stake or leading them into the gas oven!
Is it okay to call someone as asshole, obnoxious, annoying or any other
number of adjectives? Is it possible for people to actually be these things or
are we merely putting our own subjective spin on how others act? Under what
circumstances do we hold others responsible for their actions and effect on us
or on others? What is the point where we say enough is enough? Or do we simply
accept the behaviour of others as none of our business even when it impacts our
lives?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-: Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-)) But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of crop types depend on them for pollination. Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Honey bees are under threat, and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what would we do without them? View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Preview by Yahoo But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Pl... http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks ago ... View on organichealth.co http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
salyavin, me not being able to resist in turn: it's all sap: me, you, the car,
the bees, the deck...I've come to love bees too though don't eat honey cuz I'm
too pitta. Actually I like a lot of insects. Yesterday a friend I walked by
the reservoir and saw 2 of those orange and black furry caterpillars. Too cute!
I blew kisses (-:
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada
After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be
no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my
car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-:
Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-))
But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of
crop types depend on them for pollination.
Would we starve without bees?
||
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threat, and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what
would we do without them?||
| View on www.bbc.co.uk |Preview by Yahoo|
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But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying
shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After
Planting Large GMO Corn Field
37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn
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[FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
Let me guess, Share. You're posting this as part of the discussion on suicide, to give an example of why someone might justifiably want to commit suicide, rather than live in a world inhabited by blissninnies like the ones who created this video, right? :-) :-) :-) From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, me not being able to resist in turn: it's all sap: me, you, the car, the bees, the deck... I've come to love bees too though don't eat honey cuz I'm too pitta. Actually I like a lot of insects. Yesterday a friend I walked by the reservoir and saw 2 of those orange and black furry caterpillars. Too cute! I blew kisses (-: I only saw one wasp this summer. What's up with that? Used to be millions of them, I got attacked by a swarm of them once. I forgave them though as I did accidentally stick a pitchfork through their nest! But I do worry about what we're doing to this world, the destruction is all happening too fast and it never makes the headlines. They might mention global warming as something we've got to do something about but it's also the smaller aspects of the environment we ignore at our peril. It'll be a lonely old world soon if we aren't careful... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-: Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-)) But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of crop types depend on them for pollination. Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Honey bees are under threat, and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what would we do without them? View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Preview by Yahoo But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Pl... http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks ago ... View on organichealth.co http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
I think the 37 million bees died of shame when they saw the Marshy Ayurvedic Rancid Honey commercial. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field salyavin, me not being able to resist in turn: it's all sap: me, you, the car, the bees, the deck... I've come to love bees too though don't eat honey cuz I'm too pitta. Actually I like a lot of insects. Yesterday a friend I walked by the reservoir and saw 2 of those orange and black furry caterpillars. Too cute! I blew kisses (-: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-: Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-)) But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of crop types depend on them for pollination. Would we starve without bees? Would we starve without bees? Honey bees are under threat, and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what would we do without them? View on www.bbc.co.uk Preview by Yahoo But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Pl... 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks ago ... View on organichealth.coPreview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Well said, Buck. yes there is a small group of individuals here, who did not receive a lasting benefit from Maharishi's TM and TMSP techniques, didn't do the work, and now have both no lasting inner silence, or the support of nature that accompanies it. So, essentially those who have been successful with TM, and those who haven't, live in two very different worlds. Theirs (TM bashers) is one where success comes rarely, if at all, whereas the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized. There isn't any way for those ignorant of spiritual experience to catch a clue, regarding what existence is like, along with the success of TM. It takes a lot of self introspection, an ongoing, and uncompromising look at one's self, which those who don't do TM are simply incapable of, to any degree of depth. You are correct - It isn't personal. It isn't even about ideas. It is about one group, which regularly integrates the transcendent value of life, to their great benefit, vs. another group who lives life as they have for thousands of years, unfulfilled, and unaware of the vast potential, within each one of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, no, you two are being way too simplistic with this. There are two groups here on FFL distinguished in their science by ontology; one group who are transcendentalists by depth of experience and the others who are ignorant of spiritual experience. It breaks out pretty clearly along that line. I can appreciate that you guys can not see this and that you think instead that it is about you. -Buck turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues [FairfieldLife] You know what is the dominate dynamic on FFL? There is a group who criticizes the organization we were all a part of, the founder and the beliefs of the followers. (I am a proud member of this group.) And a group who personally attacks their personal life with made-up assumptions about their state of mind and life in place of making a reasoned argument for the positive power of their beliefs. The single counter argument for this group, no matter what detail of the movement and its beliefs are criticized seems to be : Yeah but you are a poopy pants so neirner, neiner, neiner! This is a stunning indictment of the vocal supporters of Maharishi here that the sophistic tool of personal attack, complete with fabrications about the critics personal life and business, is the go-to weapon in practically every response. It's called Hive Mind, and it looks like this: Bark Lice Moving In Sync Provide An Interesting Look Into The Hive Mind Of Insects http://digg.com/video/bark-lice-moving-in-sync-provide-an-interesting-look-into-the-hive-mind-of-insects And let me cut off the but. but, but he started it routine. You guys are supposed to be representing the most precious knowledge of mankind and HIGHER states of consciousness. I am just an ordinary working artist. (Yeah, Nabs jump on that to prove my point, go ahead!) I am not the one making claims that I am in a permanent state of infused being or that I am somehow participating in the most important work for the future of mankind, saving the world for an actual example claim. So when your reaction to me saying that Maharishi seemed to be a super ambitious guy selling a panacea (which he literally and explicitly WAS) is to attack what I do for a living, or make up that I am somehow not successful in my life or career which you could know NOTHING about... you reveal that, like your self proclaimed master the emperor has no clothes. Just notice what you are about to type right now. Let's see if there is a response that makes a cogent point to reflect upon concerning the power and beauty of this knowledge you hold so dear... or if it is the same old routine. I am gunna predict no response because I just took away the only response you got. I would love to be proven wrong. Conversation might actually break out here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The strange thing is that one hardly sees so much anger and frustration in the real world as on FFL. Even people who deal with heavy problems like living on the streets, addicts of all kinds very often have the Insight to see from where their problems stem; themselves. Not so on FFL. Me thinks my old theory still holds; many of the participants here are quitters that jumped the ship that could have brought them safely across the Ocean (as Muktananda described TM). Unconsciously they know this but instead of analyzing themselves honestly they start to kick in all other directions than where a kick would be justified; their own butt. Add to this the fact that many have reached an age where bitterness and anger perhaps is irreversable. Particularily they blame the only Saint they ever knew for their failure not realizing he was only there to guide and inspire, the real work had to
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
Come to South Carolina, we've got plenty of wasps, hornets, bumble bees, honey bees and yellow jackets (those are particularly fun!) From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, me not being able to resist in turn: it's all sap: me, you, the car, the bees, the deck... I've come to love bees too though don't eat honey cuz I'm too pitta. Actually I like a lot of insects. Yesterday a friend I walked by the reservoir and saw 2 of those orange and black furry caterpillars. Too cute! I blew kisses (-: I only saw one wasp this summer. What's up with that? Used to be millions of them, I got attacked by a swarm of them once. I forgave them though as I did accidentally stick a pitchfork through their nest! But I do worry about what we're doing to this world, the destruction is all happening too fast and it never makes the headlines. They might mention global warming as something we've got to do something about but it's also the smaller aspects of the environment we ignore at our peril. It'll be a lonely old world soon if we aren't careful... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-: Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-)) But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of crop types depend on them for pollination. Would we starve without bees? Would we starve without bees? Honey bees are under threat, and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what would we do without them? View on www.bbc.co.ukPreview by Yahoo But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Pl... 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks ago ... View on organichealth.coPreview by Yahoo
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[FairfieldLife] U.S. Economy, was Facebook thread war I'm having.
On 11/4/2014 4:12 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I've had it with the Republicans -- creepy vile fucks or unthinking bots -- you know, like Willy the war lover who's all for killing brown children with drones //You seem very confused - the ISIS terrorists are killing brown children and women no matter what, so the Democrats sent in drones to kill the terrorists - but you're fighting a war on Facebook with the Republicans? Go figure.// and forcing women everywhere to keep having babies no matter what. //Non sequitur. It's the economy, Stupid! // /// // /
[FairfieldLife] Question about the Marshy Effect
When the Settles announced they were ending their subsidy of the Invincible America program, paying folks for rounding where was the Marshy Effect? The excuse given was the Settles investments from which he drew the money had gone downhill. Seems like the Marshy Effect would have granted Settle support of Nature so's he could have continued to support the effort to make the Marshy Effect front and center. I mean wouldn't the Marshy Effect grant support of nature to those who are in the Domes creating the Marshy Effect so the Marshy Effect can create world peace and get noticed? How come Settle didn't get Marshy Effect support of nature? Whus wrong here???
[FairfieldLife] Crap, was Shit
On 11/5/2014 10:45 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Identifying Your Inner Poopyhead. On 11/5/2014 10:45 PM, awoelflebater wrote: this is hilarious coming from one of the most powerful posters here. /It sure didn't take this thread very long to turn to crap. //Go figure./
Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, if you're genuinely grateful for my revealing post then why don't you do the same and reveal whether you thought empty's post was funny or not? Sure Share, anything for you. First, your revealed not why you found Empty's statements funny so much as revealed a lot of who you are. No surprises there. Did I find Empty's post funny? No. I don't find any of his posts funny or light-hearted or even interesting. I think he is a very angry, unpleasant person actually. Just as I think you are, despite your saccharine frosting. Is that honest enough for you? I can't imagine a day when you and I will ever get along simply because you find strong and forthright women threatening and something to be undermined while at the same time you tolerate rudeness and obnoxious behavior toward yourself in men. Why this might be I have no interest in knowing and perhaps even you are unaware of it. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, the elections are over. You can stop running for office. By which I mean, you seem just like a politician when you don't say whether you found it LOL worthy or not. Usually in conversation a person would say something like: I didn't find that funny and I'm curious as to why you did. Then again, I realize that the only time you get humor is when you're writing something nasty but clever attacking turq. So, for the humor challenged: it was funny to me when empty called himself a Tantrik legend in his own mind litement was funny to me Rupee Sutra was funny to me eppee-tomee was funny to me gittin was funny to me Thank you for this revealing post.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized Never has a more blatant pile of hog manure ever been posted on FFL. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People Well said, Buck. yes there is a small group of individuals here, who did not receive a lasting benefit from Maharishi's TM and TMSP techniques, didn't do the work, and now have both no lasting inner silence, or the support of nature that accompanies it. So, essentially those who have been successful with TM, and those who haven't, live in two very different worlds. Theirs (TM bashers) is one where success comes rarely, if at all, whereas the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized. There isn't any way for those ignorant of spiritual experience to catch a clue, regarding what existence is like, along with the success of TM. It takes a lot of self introspection, an ongoing, and uncompromising look at one's self, which those who don't do TM are simply incapable of, to any degree of depth. You are correct - It isn't personal. It isn't even about ideas. It is about one group, which regularly integrates the transcendent value of life, to their great benefit, vs. another group who lives life as they have for thousands of years, unfulfilled, and unaware of the vast potential, within each one of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, no, you two are being way too simplistic with this. There are two groups here on FFL distinguished in their science by ontology; one group who are transcendentalists by depth of experience and the others who are ignorant of spiritual experience. It breaks out pretty clearly along that line. I can appreciate that you guys can not see this and that you think instead that it is about you. -Buck turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues [FairfieldLife] You know what is the dominate dynamic on FFL? There is a group who criticizes the organization we were all a part of, the founder and the beliefs of the followers. (I am a proud member of this group.) And a group who personally attacks their personal life with made-up assumptions about their state of mind and life in place of making a reasoned argument for the positive power of their beliefs. The single counter argument for this group, no matter what detail of the movement and its beliefs are criticized seems to be : Yeah but you are a poopy pants so neirner, neiner, neiner! This is a stunning indictment of the vocal supporters of Maharishi here that the sophistic tool of personal attack, complete with fabrications about the critics personal life and business, is the go-to weapon in practically every response. It's called Hive Mind, and it looks like this: Bark Lice Moving In Sync Provide An Interesting Look Into The Hive Mind Of Insects And let me cut off the but. but, but he started it routine. You guys are supposed to be representing the most precious knowledge of mankind and HIGHER states of consciousness. I am just an ordinary working artist. (Yeah, Nabs jump on that to prove my point, go ahead!) I am not the one making claims that I am in a permanent state of infused being or that I am somehow participating in the most important work for the future of mankind, saving the world for an actual example claim. So when your reaction to me saying that Maharishi seemed to be a super ambitious guy selling a panacea (which he literally and explicitly WAS) is to attack what I do for a living, or make up that I am somehow not successful in my life or career which you could know NOTHING about... you reveal that, like your self proclaimed master the emperor has no clothes. Just notice what you are about to type right now. Let's see if there is a response that makes a cogent point to reflect upon concerning the power and beauty of this knowledge you hold so dear... or if it is the same old routine. I am gunna predict no response because I just took away the only response you got. I would love to be proven wrong. Conversation might actually break out here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The strange thing is that one hardly sees so much anger and frustration in the real world as on FFL. Even people who deal with heavy problems like living on the streets, addicts of all kinds very often have the Insight to see from where their problems stem; themselves. Not so on FFL. Me thinks my old theory still holds; many of the participants here are quitters that jumped the ship that could have brought them safely across the Ocean (as Muktananda described TM). Unconsciously they know this but instead of analyzing themselves honestly they start to kick in all other directions than where a kick would be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crap, was Shit
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/5/2014 10:45 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Identifying Your Inner Poopyhead. On 11/5/2014 10:45 PM, awoelflebater wrote: this is hilarious coming from one of the most powerful posters here. It sure didn't take this thread very long to turn to crap. Go figure. Heh, this thread started off as 'shit' Richard. BTW, cool post on the hippie movement and your picture and involvement. You were some mover and shaker back in the day and married to a real purdy woman.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized Never has a more blatant pile of hog manure ever been posted on FFL. One need only point out that both Buck and Fleetwood have expressed the desire many, many, many times that you and I and Curtis and a few other TM critics go away and don't post here on FFL. Yet here we all still are. So much for simply thinking, and desires are realized. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People Well said, Buck. yes there is a small group of individuals here, who did not receive a lasting benefit from Maharishi's TM and TMSP techniques, didn't do the work, and now have both no lasting inner silence, or the support of nature that accompanies it. So, essentially those who have been successful with TM, and those who haven't, live in two very different worlds. Theirs (TM bashers) is one where success comes rarely, if at all, whereas the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized. There isn't any way for those ignorant of spiritual experience to catch a clue, regarding what existence is like, along with the success of TM. It takes a lot of self introspection, an ongoing, and uncompromising look at one's self, which those who don't do TM are simply incapable of, to any degree of depth. You are correct - It isn't personal. It isn't even about ideas. It is about one group, which regularly integrates the transcendent value of life, to their great benefit, vs. another group who lives life as they have for thousands of years, unfulfilled, and unaware of the vast potential, within each one of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, no, you two are being way too simplistic with this. There are two groups here on FFL distinguished in their science by ontology; one group who are transcendentalists by depth of experience and the others who are ignorant of spiritual experience. It breaks out pretty clearly along that line. I can appreciate that you guys can not see this and that you think instead that it is about you. -Buck turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues [FairfieldLife] You know what is the dominate dynamic on FFL? There is a group who criticizes the organization we were all a part of, the founder and the beliefs of the followers. (I am a proud member of this group.) And a group who personally attacks their personal life with made-up assumptions about their state of mind and life in place of making a reasoned argument for the positive power of their beliefs. The single counter argument for this group, no matter what detail of the movement and its beliefs are criticized seems to be : Yeah but you are a poopy pants so neirner, neiner, neiner! This is a stunning indictment of the vocal supporters of Maharishi here that the sophistic tool of personal attack, complete with fabrications about the critics personal life and business, is the go-to weapon in practically every response. It's called Hive Mind, and it looks like this: Bark Lice Moving In Sync Provide An Interesting Look Into The Hive Mind Of Insects And let me cut off the but. but, but he started it routine. You guys are supposed to be representing the most precious knowledge of mankind and HIGHER states of consciousness. I am just an ordinary working artist. (Yeah, Nabs jump on that to prove my point, go ahead!) I am not the one making claims that I am in a permanent state of infused being or that I am somehow participating in the most important work for the future of mankind, saving the world for an actual example claim. So when your reaction to me saying that Maharishi seemed to be a super ambitious guy selling a panacea (which he literally and explicitly WAS) is to attack what I do for a living, or make up that I am somehow not successful in my life or career which you could know NOTHING about... you reveal that, like your self proclaimed master the emperor has no clothes. Just notice what you are about to type right now. Let's see if there is a response that makes a cogent point to reflect upon concerning the power and beauty of this knowledge you hold so dear... or if it is the same old routine. I am gunna predict no response because I just took away the only response you got. I would love to be proven wrong. Conversation might actually break out here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The strange thing is that one hardly sees so much anger and frustration in the real world as on FFL. Even people who deal with heavy problems like living on the streets, addicts of all kinds very often have the Insight to see from
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Revolution of Love, be it
Very well done. Thanks for posting this, Share. I saw a clip of Jerry Seinfeld talking about what he likes, even more than love, is the universal energy available to him, ever renewed, through TM. I certainly see those who are in their 20's and younger, have a completely different view of the world, than we did - both more aware, and seeing the value of cooperation, vs. competition. More love expressed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : http://davidya.ca/2014/11/06/the-next-stage/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
There is a small amount of waiting, but all desires are realized, through the steady practice of TM, and integrating the changes as they occur. Many people including you, skipped the last part, hence your misery. I cannot say anything except that I feel sorry for you and Barry and Curtis. On the other hand, I consider you each responsible for yourselves, and it is too bad you have chosen this path of ignorance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized Never has a more blatant pile of hog manure ever been posted on FFL. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People Well said, Buck. yes there is a small group of individuals here, who did not receive a lasting benefit from Maharishi's TM and TMSP techniques, didn't do the work, and now have both no lasting inner silence, or the support of nature that accompanies it. So, essentially those who have been successful with TM, and those who haven't, live in two very different worlds. Theirs (TM bashers) is one where success comes rarely, if at all, whereas the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized. There isn't any way for those ignorant of spiritual experience to catch a clue, regarding what existence is like, along with the success of TM. It takes a lot of self introspection, an ongoing, and uncompromising look at one's self, which those who don't do TM are simply incapable of, to any degree of depth. You are correct - It isn't personal. It isn't even about ideas. It is about one group, which regularly integrates the transcendent value of life, to their great benefit, vs. another group who lives life as they have for thousands of years, unfulfilled, and unaware of the vast potential, within each one of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, no, you two are being way too simplistic with this. There are two groups here on FFL distinguished in their science by ontology; one group who are transcendentalists by depth of experience and the others who are ignorant of spiritual experience. It breaks out pretty clearly along that line. I can appreciate that you guys can not see this and that you think instead that it is about you. -Buck turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues [FairfieldLife] You know what is the dominate dynamic on FFL? There is a group who criticizes the organization we were all a part of, the founder and the beliefs of the followers. (I am a proud member of this group.) And a group who personally attacks their personal life with made-up assumptions about their state of mind and life in place of making a reasoned argument for the positive power of their beliefs. The single counter argument for this group, no matter what detail of the movement and its beliefs are criticized seems to be : Yeah but you are a poopy pants so neirner, neiner, neiner! This is a stunning indictment of the vocal supporters of Maharishi here that the sophistic tool of personal attack, complete with fabrications about the critics personal life and business, is the go-to weapon in practically every response. It's called Hive Mind, and it looks like this: Bark Lice Moving In Sync Provide An Interesting Look Into The Hive Mind Of Insects http://digg.com/video/bark-lice-moving-in-sync-provide-an-interesting-look-into-the-hive-mind-of-insects And let me cut off the but. but, but he started it routine. You guys are supposed to be representing the most precious knowledge of mankind and HIGHER states of consciousness. I am just an ordinary working artist. (Yeah, Nabs jump on that to prove my point, go ahead!) I am not the one making claims that I am in a permanent state of infused being or that I am somehow participating in the most important work for the future of mankind, saving the world for an actual example claim. So when your reaction to me saying that Maharishi seemed to be a super ambitious guy selling a panacea (which he literally and explicitly WAS) is to attack what I do for a living, or make up that I am somehow not successful in my life or career which you could know NOTHING about... you reveal that, like your self proclaimed master the emperor has no clothes. Just notice what you are about to type right now. Let's see if there is a response that makes a cogent point to reflect upon concerning the power and beauty of this knowledge you hold so dear... or if it is the same old routine. I am gunna predict no response because I just took away the only response you got. I would love to be proven wrong. Conversation might actually break out here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The strange thing is that one hardly sees so much
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Dear one, I am talking about real desires, for sustainable partnerships, wealth, well being for our children, having solid friends, having excellent health, and a life which is ever more gratifying. Since your view is limited to FFL, you make my point for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized Never has a more blatant pile of hog manure ever been posted on FFL. One need only point out that both Buck and Fleetwood have expressed the desire many, many, many times that you and I and Curtis and a few other TM critics go away and don't post here on FFL. Yet here we all still are. So much for simply thinking, and desires are realized. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People Well said, Buck. yes there is a small group of individuals here, who did not receive a lasting benefit from Maharishi's TM and TMSP techniques, didn't do the work, and now have both no lasting inner silence, or the support of nature that accompanies it. So, essentially those who have been successful with TM, and those who haven't, live in two very different worlds. Theirs (TM bashers) is one where success comes rarely, if at all, whereas the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized. There isn't any way for those ignorant of spiritual experience to catch a clue, regarding what existence is like, along with the success of TM. It takes a lot of self introspection, an ongoing, and uncompromising look at one's self, which those who don't do TM are simply incapable of, to any degree of depth. You are correct - It isn't personal. It isn't even about ideas. It is about one group, which regularly integrates the transcendent value of life, to their great benefit, vs. another group who lives life as they have for thousands of years, unfulfilled, and unaware of the vast potential, within each one of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, no, you two are being way too simplistic with this. There are two groups here on FFL distinguished in their science by ontology; one group who are transcendentalists by depth of experience and the others who are ignorant of spiritual experience. It breaks out pretty clearly along that line. I can appreciate that you guys can not see this and that you think instead that it is about you. -Buck turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues [FairfieldLife] You know what is the dominate dynamic on FFL? There is a group who criticizes the organization we were all a part of, the founder and the beliefs of the followers. (I am a proud member of this group.) And a group who personally attacks their personal life with made-up assumptions about their state of mind and life in place of making a reasoned argument for the positive power of their beliefs. The single counter argument for this group, no matter what detail of the movement and its beliefs are criticized seems to be : Yeah but you are a poopy pants so neirner, neiner, neiner! This is a stunning indictment of the vocal supporters of Maharishi here that the sophistic tool of personal attack, complete with fabrications about the critics personal life and business, is the go-to weapon in practically every response. It's called Hive Mind, and it looks like this: Bark Lice Moving In Sync Provide An Interesting Look Into The Hive Mind Of Insects http://digg.com/video/bark-lice-moving-in-sync-provide-an-interesting-look-into-the-hive-mind-of-insects And let me cut off the but. but, but he started it routine. You guys are supposed to be representing the most precious knowledge of mankind and HIGHER states of consciousness. I am just an ordinary working artist. (Yeah, Nabs jump on that to prove my point, go ahead!) I am not the one making claims that I am in a permanent state of infused being or that I am somehow participating in the most important work for the future of mankind, saving the world for an actual example claim. So when your reaction to me saying that Maharishi seemed to be a super ambitious guy selling a panacea (which he literally and explicitly WAS) is to attack what I do for a living, or make up that I am somehow not successful in my life or career which you could know NOTHING about... you reveal that, like your self proclaimed master the emperor has no clothes. Just notice what you are about to type right now. Let's see if there is a response that makes a cogent point to reflect upon concerning the power and beauty of this knowledge you hold so dear... or if it is the same old routine. I am gunna predict no response because I just took away the only
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gas Buddy
Like. How much is gas over there in tejas these days? We are seeing sub $3 gas for the first time in a decade. The oil companies have figured out that people without jobs can't pay much at the pump. I'll enjoy the low prices while they last. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On our way to China Grove yesterday we stopped at this place to get some fuel. Pilot Flying J Travel Center U.S. Highway 90 E. San Antonio, Texas $2.55 http://www.gasbuddy.com/ http://www.gasbuddy.com/ On our way up to Austin yesterday we stopped at this place to get some fuel for our road trip: Murphy USA on the Austin Highway 1430 Austin Highway San Antonio, Texas $2.61 per gallon http://tinyurl.com/7lv657f http://tinyurl.com/7lv657f
Re: [FairfieldLife] Question about the Marshy Effect
On 11/6/2014 8:35 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Seems like the Marshy Effect would have granted Settle support of Nature so's he could have continued to support the effort to make the Marshy Effect front and center. I mean wouldn't the Marshy Effect grant support of nature to those who are in the Domes creating the Marshy Effect so the Marshy Effect can create world peace and get noticed? How come Settle didn't get Marshy Effect support of nature? Whus wrong here??? /This is a simple question to answer. You would think that the Marshy Effect would have given you the support of nature to bake better bread, but if it's your karma is to fail, then you should have realized long ago that karma can be a bitch./
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gas Buddy
PS there is a Sinclair gas station nearby, with an actual green dino statue out front. Very awesome. I'll try to catch a picture of it today, when I go into the valley. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Like. How much is gas over there in tejas these days? We are seeing sub $3 gas for the first time in a decade. The oil companies have figured out that people without jobs can't pay much at the pump. I'll enjoy the low prices while they last. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On our way to China Grove yesterday we stopped at this place to get some fuel. Pilot Flying J Travel Center U.S. Highway 90 E. San Antonio, Texas $2.55 http://www.gasbuddy.com/ http://www.gasbuddy.com/ On our way up to Austin yesterday we stopped at this place to get some fuel for our road trip: Murphy USA on the Austin Highway 1430 Austin Highway San Antonio, Texas $2.61 per gallon http://tinyurl.com/7lv657f http://tinyurl.com/7lv657f
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
If it ever becomes *moral* to take your own life, then it *can* become moral to
not take your own life.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you
do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-)
JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E
A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of
doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to
you after your death.
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Share,
Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a
life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been
taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against
Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence.
The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself,
the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what
you sow.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this
situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary
suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view?
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Share,
The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of
his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not
justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following
the principle above.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What
makes you think that?
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Share,
I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful
and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we
should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing
acts that do not violate natural laws.
If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could
detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to
occur.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
John, when I think about how awful were the last 3 years of my step Dad's life,
and more than once he expressed the wish to be dead, I think suicide is
sometimes the right thing to do. I think unnecessary suffering is morally
wrong.
From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Bhairitu,
You've raised a good question. But it is considered a higher principle that
the end does not justify the means. In other words, one must act licitly to
make a moral act. You cannot kill another person or group of persons in order
to obtain political power--which we can see the evil effects that are happening
in Iraq and Syria. Similarly, the same principle applies to taking one's own
life.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
If you were suffering from terminalbrain cancer would you really want to see it
through to the end asyour mind, vision, hearing went away?
On 11/04/2014 10:36 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
A woman just committed suicide with the aid ofdoctors in Oregon. Is this
justifiable in your ownthinking?
Vaticanthinker brands US woman's suicide 'wicked'
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
turq, did you even watch it? Lots of totally cool footage, like of a young
woman putting a daisy in the barrel of an assault rifle toted by a riot cop.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
Let me guess, Share. You're posting this as part of the discussion on
suicide, to give an example of why someone might justifiably want to commit
suicide, rather than live in a world inhabited by blissninnies like the ones
who created this video, right? :-) :-) :-)
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gas Buddy
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : PS there is a Sinclair gas station nearby, with an actual green dino statue out front. Very awesome. I'll try to catch a picture of it today, when I go into the valley. So cool, please do. Those old signs seem to be able to survive the desert places and whenever I see one I think of Hitchcock movies where so many of them seemed to have been shot in the desert either around LA or perhaps Nevada. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Like. How much is gas over there in tejas these days? We are seeing sub $3 gas for the first time in a decade. The oil companies have figured out that people without jobs can't pay much at the pump. I'll enjoy the low prices while they last. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On our way to China Grove yesterday we stopped at this place to get some fuel. Pilot Flying J Travel Center U.S. Highway 90 E. San Antonio, Texas $2.55 http://www.gasbuddy.com/ http://www.gasbuddy.com/ On our way up to Austin yesterday we stopped at this place to get some fuel for our road trip: Murphy USA on the Austin Highway 1430 Austin Highway San Antonio, Texas $2.61 per gallon http://tinyurl.com/7lv657f http://tinyurl.com/7lv657f
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Revolution of Love, be it
WOW! I just watched it again, saw stuff I hadn't seen the first time. amazing,
amazing, amazing, life is (-:
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:45 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Revolution of Love, be it
Very well done. Thanks for posting this, Share. I saw a clip of Jerry
Seinfeld talking about what he likes, even more than love, is the universal
energy available to him, ever renewed, through TM. I certainly see those who
are in their 20's and younger, have a completely different view of the world,
than we did - both more aware, and seeing the value of cooperation, vs.
competition. More love expressed.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, did you even watch it? Lots of totally cool footage, like of a young woman putting a daisy in the barrel of an assault rifle toted by a riot cop. Iconic image from the 60's. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it Let me guess, Share. You're posting this as part of the discussion on suicide, to give an example of why someone might justifiably want to commit suicide, rather than live in a world inhabited by blissninnies like the ones who created this video, right? :-) :-) :-) From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it http://davidya.ca/2014/11/06/the-next-stage/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
On 11/6/2014 6:27 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. /Apparently Barry believes in karma and reincarnation, in which case if he took his own life, he would not only forfeit the chance to reach enlightenment in this lifetime, but he could jeopardize his chances to be enlightened in his next life. It's not complicated, Share.// // //TurquoiseB on Karma:// //http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife/yahoogroups.com/msg/28403.html/ http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg28403.html At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. *From:* jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to occur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, when I think about how awful were the last 3 years of my step Dad's life, and more than once he expressed the wish to be dead, I think suicide is sometimes the right thing to do. I think unnecessary suffering is morally wrong. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:37 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Bhairitu, You've raised a good question. But it is
[FairfieldLife] Rupert Spira: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 11/06/2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
Ann, you've said before how different we are and I'm more than fine with that.
I don't agree that I have a saccharine frosting nor do I feel threatened by
anyone on FFL. Finally, as I've said before, it was the ganging up attacks that
I found very awful. Which no individual man has done here to me.
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, if you're genuinely grateful for my revealing post then why don't you do
the same and reveal whether you thought empty's post was funny or not?
Sure Share, anything for you. First, your revealed not why you found Empty's
statements funny so much as revealed a lot of who you are. No surprises there.
Did I find Empty's post funny? No. I don't find any of his posts funny or
light-hearted or even interesting. I think he is a very angry, unpleasant
person actually. Just as I think you are, despite your saccharine frosting. Is
that honest enough for you? I can't imagine a day when you and I will ever get
along simply because you find strong and forthright women threatening and
something to be undermined while at the same time you tolerate rudeness and
obnoxious behavior toward yourself in men. Why this might be I have no interest
in knowing and perhaps even you are unaware of it.
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, the elections are over. You can stop running for office. By which I mean,
you seem just like a politician when you don't say whether you found it LOL
worthy or not.
Usually in conversation a person would say something like: I didn't find that
funny and I'm curious as to why you did.
Then again, I realize that the only time you get humor is when you're writing
something nasty but clever attacking turq.
So, for the humor challenged:it was funny to me when empty called himself a
Tantrik legend in his own mindlitement was funny to meRupee Sutra was funny to
meeppee-tomee was funny to megittin was funny to me
Thank you for this revealing post.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The vote was a Kali Yuga bloodbath
On 11/5/2014 6:52 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: First Barry, and now Edg. /The people have spoken - it's all about the economy. / This group seems to vacillate between being totally insignificant, and being the locus of all that's wrong with spiritual groups and America in general, according to some. /They are starting to sound like road kill. / Go figure. Another informant letting us know how unworthy we are, and firing a shot, (maybe the hundredth) that if we don't shape up, they're leaving /Just let them go back to their Facebook. / Okaay. /Keep up the good work, Steve, whoever you voted for. From this day forth, fuck you. I will not purposefully abide having in my mind any of the production of the sick fucks still HAUNTING this group. - Duveyoung / ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you voted Republican, you're a supporter of evil. Evil -- harming the masses to make a profit. From this day forth, fuck you. I will not acknowledge you here -- you're a dead soul -- why would I talk to your zombie shell still breathing in the space in which once your innocence resided? As this Age grinds on, I may be bludgeoned along with the rest of ya, but at least I'll be able to laugh as you go down with the ship, America, as it's scuttled for the insurance money (I mean, credit default swaps.) the look on your face would be priceless, but I can see it enough in my imaginarium. Maybe I will drown before you, but at least I'll know that water's icy body-slam will have your teeth chatter-shatter-cracking against themselves as your last thoughts are that you could have done something other than lead a life of such immense harm to so many. I will not purposefully abide having in my mind any of the production of the sick fucks still HAUNTING this group.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
Ann, did you watch the video? If yes, what did you think of it? It's mainly
footage, not stills. A lot from movies...
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
turq, did you even watch it? Lots of totally cool footage, like of a young
woman putting a daisy in the barrel of an assault rifle toted by a riot cop.
Iconic image from the 60's.
From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
Let me guess, Share. You're posting this as part of the discussion on suicide,
to give an example of why someone might justifiably want to commit suicide,
rather than live in a world inhabited by blissninnies like the ones who created
this video, right? :-) :-) :-)
From: Share Long sharelong60@...
[FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Revolution of Love, be it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaykbM3WFVI
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. *From:* jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to occur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, when I think about how awful were the last 3 years of my step Dad's life, and more than once he expressed the wish to be dead, I think suicide is sometimes the right thing to do. I think unnecessary suffering is morally wrong. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:37 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Bhairitu, You've raised a good question. But it is considered a higher principle that the end does not justify the
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
salyavin, I hope it's not too late but I'm not sure. Gaia might have to totally
implode, taking us all with her, and then regenerate herself. Cycle of
life..which may end up being just the bacteria, viruses and robots!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada
After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
salyavin, me not being able to resist in turn: it's all sap: me, you, the car,
the bees, the deck...I've come to love bees too though don't eat honey cuz I'm
too pitta. Actually I like a lot of insects. Yesterday a friend I walked by
the reservoir and saw 2 of those orange and black furry caterpillars. Too cute!
I blew kisses (-:
I only saw one wasp this summer. What's up with that? Used to be millions of
them, I got attacked by a swarm of them once. I forgave them though as I did
accidentally stick a pitchfork through their nest!
But I do worry about what we're doing to this world, the destruction is all
happening too fast and it never makes the headlines. They might mention global
warming as something we've got to do something about but it's also the smaller
aspects of the environment we ignore at our peril. It'll be a lonely old world
soon if we aren't careful...
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada
After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be
no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my
car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-:
Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-))
But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of
crop types depend on them for pollination.
Would we starve without bees?
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and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what would we
do without them? | |
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But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying
shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After
Planting Large GMO Corn Field
37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn
Field
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Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out
salyavin, I'm laughing because even 8 years ago I was on a computer with a dial
up connection! Go figger!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 3:21 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Straigtening Sal Out
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote :
I think it was more than 10 years ago. I was a 30 year old
kid. I think it was on another forum. My memory has become
hazy. Maybe salyavin might remember it.
Eh? fraid not, I've only been on FFL as far as TM things go. Didn't even have
my own computer ten years ago
--- steve.sundur@... wrote :
can you elaborate?
--- jason_green2@... wrote :
By the way, I remember talking to you more than 8 years ago.
But, I am not sure that was it's on this forum or another
forum.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shit
If I were to do another animation video about FFL I would probably cast it with 5 year old characters. :-D On 11/05/2014 08:16 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Identifying Your Inner Poopyhead.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Gas Buddy
yeah, I was so stoked - Hadn't even seen a Sinclair station in decades, and this is a new one, with a bright green, shiny dinosaur! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : PS there is a Sinclair gas station nearby, with an actual green dino statue out front. Very awesome. I'll try to catch a picture of it today, when I go into the valley. So cool, please do. Those old signs seem to be able to survive the desert places and whenever I see one I think of Hitchcock movies where so many of them seemed to have been shot in the desert either around LA or perhaps Nevada. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Like. How much is gas over there in tejas these days? We are seeing sub $3 gas for the first time in a decade. The oil companies have figured out that people without jobs can't pay much at the pump. I'll enjoy the low prices while they last. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On our way to China Grove yesterday we stopped at this place to get some fuel. Pilot Flying J Travel Center U.S. Highway 90 E. San Antonio, Texas $2.55 http://www.gasbuddy.com/ http://www.gasbuddy.com/ On our way up to Austin yesterday we stopped at this place to get some fuel for our road trip: Murphy USA on the Austin Highway 1430 Austin Highway San Antonio, Texas $2.61 per gallon http://tinyurl.com/7lv657f http://tinyurl.com/7lv657f
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
That will not happen. Definitely not. Just a cascade of fearful thinking, as was pointed out in the vid you shared. The earth is a lot more resilient than a few dead bees, God bless them. Even some of the corporations are recognizing that if they kill the golden goose, no more profits, so in order to be sustainably greedy, they are watching out for some of the natural resources that they need. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, I hope it's not too late but I'm not sure. Gaia might have to totally implode, taking us all with her, and then regenerate herself. Cycle of life..which may end up being just the bacteria, viruses and robots! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, me not being able to resist in turn: it's all sap: me, you, the car, the bees, the deck... I've come to love bees too though don't eat honey cuz I'm too pitta. Actually I like a lot of insects. Yesterday a friend I walked by the reservoir and saw 2 of those orange and black furry caterpillars. Too cute! I blew kisses (-: I only saw one wasp this summer. What's up with that? Used to be millions of them, I got attacked by a swarm of them once. I forgave them though as I did accidentally stick a pitchfork through their nest! But I do worry about what we're doing to this world, the destruction is all happening too fast and it never makes the headlines. They might mention global warming as something we've got to do something about but it's also the smaller aspects of the environment we ignore at our peril. It'll be a lonely old world soon if we aren't careful... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-: Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-)) But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of crop types depend on them for pollination. Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Honey bees are under threat, and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what would we do without them? View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Preview by Yahoo But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Pl... http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks ago ... View on organichealth.co http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
Share, what ganging up attacks? You do have a propensity to cut men vs women some slack. I also see a little of what Ann is referring to, wrt saccharine frosting, but you said you were raised Catholic, and those people are mega mood makers, so it is understandable where it comes from. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, you've said before how different we are and I'm more than fine with that. I don't agree that I have a saccharine frosting nor do I feel threatened by anyone on FFL. Finally, as I've said before, it was the ganging up attacks that I found very awful. Which no individual man has done here to me. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, if you're genuinely grateful for my revealing post then why don't you do the same and reveal whether you thought empty's post was funny or not? Sure Share, anything for you. First, your revealed not why you found Empty's statements funny so much as revealed a lot of who you are. No surprises there. Did I find Empty's post funny? No. I don't find any of his posts funny or light-hearted or even interesting. I think he is a very angry, unpleasant person actually. Just as I think you are, despite your saccharine frosting. Is that honest enough for you? I can't imagine a day when you and I will ever get along simply because you find strong and forthright women threatening and something to be undermined while at the same time you tolerate rudeness and obnoxious behavior toward yourself in men. Why this might be I have no interest in knowing and perhaps even you are unaware of it. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, the elections are over. You can stop running for office. By which I mean, you seem just like a politician when you don't say whether you found it LOL worthy or not. Usually in conversation a person would say something like: I didn't find that funny and I'm curious as to why you did. Then again, I realize that the only time you get humor is when you're writing something nasty but clever attacking turq. So, for the humor challenged: it was funny to me when empty called himself a Tantrik legend in his own mind litement was funny to me Rupee Sutra was funny to me eppee-tomee was funny to me gittin was funny to me Thank you for this revealing post.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Yeah, I have been aware of this also, that if suicide is done, the person must wait out their karma. It is not a moral issue, but one of complicating one's life, by destroying the physical vessel. The lesson learned is that we cannot ever be destroyed, and if a suicide, the lesson is learned, while imprisoned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to occur.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crap, was Shit
On 11/06/2014 06:43 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/5/2014 10:45 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Identifying Your Inner Poopyhead. On 11/5/2014 10:45 PM, awoelflebater wrote: this is hilarious coming from one of the most powerful posters here. /It sure didn't take this thread very long to turn to crap. //Go figure./ Heh, this thread started off as 'shit' Richard. BTW, cool post on the hippie movement and your picture and involvement. You were some mover and shaker back in the day and married to a real purdy woman. No, he was quoting an article again which was evident once you reached the bottom of post. However, if Richard were at least a regional rock star of that era there would have been plenty of purdy (not to mention rich) women hanging around.
[FairfieldLife] The USA today
Shocking footage showing what life is really like in the States. Enjoy your cup of hot snow . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA
Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
Fleetwood, I think I've been cordial with both Seraphita and Susan. And to
repeat myself, no man has ever been part of a group going at me. As for
saccharine, I can only laugh and realize it's all relative.
From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
Share, what ganging up attacks? You do have a propensity to cut men vs
women some slack. I also see a little of what Ann is referring to, wrt
saccharine frosting, but you said you were raised Catholic, and those people
are mega mood makers, so it is understandable where it comes from.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, you've said before how different we are and I'm more than fine with that.
I don't agree that I have a saccharine frosting nor do I feel threatened by
anyone on FFL. Finally, as I've said before, it was the ganging up attacks that
I found very awful. Which no individual man has done here to me.
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, if you're genuinely grateful for my revealing post then why don't you do
the same and reveal whether you thought empty's post was funny or not?
Sure Share, anything for you. First, your revealed not why you found Empty's
statements funny so much as revealed a lot of who you are. No surprises there.
Did I find Empty's post funny? No. I don't find any of his posts funny or
light-hearted or even interesting. I think he is a very angry, unpleasant
person actually. Just as I think you are, despite your saccharine frosting. Is
that honest enough for you? I can't imagine a day when you and I will ever get
along simply because you find strong and forthright women threatening and
something to be undermined while at the same time you tolerate rudeness and
obnoxious behavior toward yourself in men. Why this might be I have no interest
in knowing and perhaps even you are unaware of it.
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Litemint and the Rupee Sutras
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Ann, the elections are over. You can stop running for office. By which I mean,
you seem just like a politician when you don't say whether you found it LOL
worthy or not.
Usually in conversation a person would say something like: I didn't find that
funny and I'm curious as to why you did.
Then again, I realize that the only time you get humor is when you're writing
something nasty but clever attacking turq.
So, for the humor challenged:it was funny to me when empty called himself a
Tantrik legend in his own mindlitement was funny to meRupee Sutra was funny to
meeppee-tomee was funny to megittin was funny to me
Thank you for this revealing post.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Richard, I'm sticking to: acting out of fear=unhealthy; acting out of loving neutrality=healthy, whatever the act is. From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? On 11/6/2014 6:27 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. Apparently Barry believes in karma and reincarnation, in which case if he took his own life, he would not only forfeit the chance to reach enlightenment in this lifetime, but he could jeopardize his chances to be enlightened in his next life. It's not complicated, Share. TurquoiseB on Karma: http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife/yahoogroups.com/msg/28403.html At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to occur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, when I think about how awful were the last 3 years of my step Dad's life, and more than once he expressed the wish to be dead, I think suicide is sometimes the right thing to do. I think unnecessary suffering is morally wrong. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
My apple tree didn't produce much the last two years. Not much of a worry as they are green apples (very sour) and it is really a huge pain to raise organic apples. Basically you put out sticky traps for the coddling moths who like to lay their eggs on the buds. If you are a little late about getting those traps in February the nurseries run out. But those traps cost $18 and I get more organic apples out of $18 worth at Trader Joes. Go figure. Another trick is to spray the tree with orange spray. The bugs think it is a orange tree and stay away (except for bees). I have a lemon tree which is no problem whatsoever as long as I can get my non English speaking gardener to prune it once a year. The prior gardener went back to Peru for health care and I didn't have to remind him. I do notice the bee populations around here is down quite a bit. Probably way down from when John Muir had this lot as part of his orchard. On 11/06/2014 05:53 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, me not being able to resist in turn: it's all sap: me, you, the car, the bees, the deck... I've come to love bees too though don't eat honey cuz I'm too pitta. Actually I like a lot of insects. Yesterday a friend I walked by the reservoir and saw 2 of those orange and black furry caterpillars. Too cute! I blew kisses (-: I only saw one wasp this summer. What's up with that? Used to be millions of them, I got attacked by a swarm of them once. I forgave them though as I did accidentally stick a pitchfork through their nest! But I do worry about what we're doing to this world, the destruction is all happening too fast and it never makes the headlines. They might mention global warming as something we've got to do something about but it's also the smaller aspects of the environment we ignore at our peril. It'll be a lonely old world soon if we aren't careful... *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-: Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-)) But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of crop types depend on them for pollination. Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn image http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Honey bees are under threat, and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what would we do without them? View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Preview by Yahoo But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field alt 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ image http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Pl... http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks ago ... View on organichealth.co http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
You left out flies. Particularly horse flies which some folks mistake for bumble bees around here. Then we also get praying mantis around here. On 11/06/2014 06:29 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Come to South Carolina, we've got plenty of wasps, hornets, bumble bees, honey bees and yellow jackets (those are particularly fun!)
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, I hope it's not too late but I'm not sure. Gaia might have to totally implode, taking us all with her, and then regenerate herself. Cycle of life..which may end up being just the bacteria, viruses and robots! It'd be good if there's any robots left because at least we could programme them to tell our story to any wandering aliens who happen upon our overheated dump in a few centuries. Nothing will change because of political short-termism and the market's greed. We have to make a decision to survive and I don't see our leaders stepping up to the plate as there's no votes in a shrinking economy. The best we can hope for is that someone invents a free energy generator like a nuclear fusion reactor, but getting funding is hard because the benefits are so distant due to it being rather difficult. Or maybe everyone will embrace alternative tech like wind and wave power but the majority in the UK don't want it. I doubt the reality of global warming will sink in until it's too late... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, me not being able to resist in turn: it's all sap: me, you, the car, the bees, the deck... I've come to love bees too though don't eat honey cuz I'm too pitta. Actually I like a lot of insects. Yesterday a friend I walked by the reservoir and saw 2 of those orange and black furry caterpillars. Too cute! I blew kisses (-: I only saw one wasp this summer. What's up with that? Used to be millions of them, I got attacked by a swarm of them once. I forgave them though as I did accidentally stick a pitchfork through their nest! But I do worry about what we're doing to this world, the destruction is all happening too fast and it never makes the headlines. They might mention global warming as something we've got to do something about but it's also the smaller aspects of the environment we ignore at our peril. It'll be a lonely old world soon if we aren't careful... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, this is pretty horrifying. I forget about this because there seems to be no bee problem in FF. Bees around the front deck to my house. Bees around my car when I come out of the Dome. I think they like the sap on my car (-: Maybe they like the sap in your car? (Couldn't resist ;-)) But the loss of bees would be a disaster of unimaginable proportions, 70% of crop types depend on them for pollination. Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Would we starve without bees? http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Honey bees are under threat, and as pollination significantly contributes to the food we eat, what would we do without them? View on www.bbc.co.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zg4dwmn Preview by Yahoo But apart from anything else they are really cool critters and it's a crying shame we are wiping them out. Honey is one of my favourite things too. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Pl... http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field Millions of bees dropped dead after GMO corn was planted few weeks ago ... View on organichealth.co http://organichealth.co/37-million-bees-found-dead-in-ontario-canada-after-planting-large-gmo-corn-field/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
Synchronistically, amidst all of this talk of global warming and the planet going belly-up, I'm getting ready to go out tonight to a showing of Christopher Nolan's Interstellar at the film festival. I'm hoping it's good, and will try to pen a review if it is, but I know in advance that I approve of Nolan's idea of what one should do in case of imminent planetary collapse and the extinction of the species. In fact, I approve so heartily that I want to be the first to volunteer to be sealed into a spaceship and shot off into space alone with Anne Hathaway should this collapse happen soon. :-) From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, I hope it's not too late but I'm not sure. Gaia might have to totally implode, taking us all with her, and then regenerate herself. Cycle of life..which may end up being just the bacteria, viruses and robots! It'd be good if there's any robots left because at least we could programme them to tell our story to any wandering aliens who happen upon our overheated dump in a few centuries. Nothing will change because of political short-termism and the market's greed. We have to make a decision to survive and I don't see our leaders stepping up to the plate as there's no votes in a shrinking economy. The best we can hope for is that someone invents a free energy generator like a nuclear fusion reactor, but getting funding is hard because the benefits are so distant due to it being rather difficult. Or maybe everyone will embrace alternative tech like wind and wave power but the majority in the UK don't want it. I doubt the reality of global warming will sink in until it's too late...
[FairfieldLife] Congratulations, Voters. You Just Made This Climate Denier the Most Powerful Senator on the Environment.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120134/climate-change-denier-james-inhofe-lead-environment-committee http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120134/climate-change-denier-james-inhofe-lead-environment-committee
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
The moral dilemma of our times though is that our medical practices may allow us to extend life when someone is terminally ill beyond where they may have died if they didn't do anything about the illness. On 11/06/2014 08:40 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, I have been aware of this also, that if suicide is done, the person must wait out their karma. It is not a moral issue, but one of complicating one's life, by destroying the physical vessel. The lesson learned is that we cannot ever be destroyed, and if a suicide, the lesson is learned, while imprisoned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Congratulations, Voters. You Just Made This Climate Denier the Most Powerful Senator on the Environment.
Nablusoss, here's what I remind myself: On a cloudy day, there's almost no
shade from trees. And when the sunlight is brightest, that's when the shade is
the darkest.
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Congratulations, Voters. You Just Made This Climate
Denier the Most Powerful Senator on the Environment.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120134/climate-change-denier-james-inhofe-lead-environment-committee
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[FairfieldLife] The Sword of Cleavage
by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme, 6 September 2014 Many people believe that despite the presence of Maitreya in the world, everything is becoming more threatening and unstable than hitherto. They wonder what Hierarchy is doing to ease the many problems and difficulties that leave them afraid and unprepared for the heightened tension of today. The truth is, the world is being prepared. In times of great tension and change, people look at problems with a limited view – which they inevitably have – of the true state of society. Humanity imagines that all these events have the same impact and importance for the future, whereas the true view, which only the Masters can see, is altogether different. The Masters see the happenings as if occurring on a flat plane, and as potential only. They know that some will precipitate and effect world change, while others will simply wither away without any precipitation at all. Humanity, with its limited vision, sees all these events as bearing on their future but this assuredly is not the case. From the Masters’ point of view humanity has never been so ready for the new world that the future will bring. It has never been so near a time of inspiration and readiness to work for the common weal. When the Christ said that He would return (in such a time as we think not), He would bring not soft words of spurious peace but a sword, the Sword of Cleavage, which would separate father from son and brother from brother. It is precisely the action of the Sword of Cleavage that we are witnessing today. Maitreya’s energy of love stimulates everyone: the one who loves, and works for justice and sharing, but also the one who causes the divisions, schisms and greed in the world. In this way, through the clear opposition created by the Sword of Cleavage, men can arrive at a true choice for the future – the future for all men, the poor and hungry as well as the men of money and the destroyers of peace in the world. Each of us must choose on which side of that division we find our truth. The Sword of Cleavage - Share International magazine October 2014 issue http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm The Sword of Cleavage - Share International magazi... http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm The main purpose of this web site is to present information about the emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher, and his message of hope for the future View on www.share-internation... http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] 37 Million Bees Found Dead In Ontario, Canada After Planting Large GMO Corn Field
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Synchronistically, amidst all of this talk of global warming and the planet going belly-up, I'm getting ready to go out tonight to a showing of Christopher Nolan's Interstellar at the film festival. I'm hoping it's good, and will try to pen a review if it is, but I know in advance that I approve of Nolan's idea of what one should do in case of imminent planetary collapse and the extinction of the species. In fact, I approve so heartily that I want to be the first to volunteer to be sealed into a spaceship and shot off into space alone with Anne Hathaway should this collapse happen soon. :-) Shrewd move, as long as she's doing the English accent... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, I hope it's not too late but I'm not sure. Gaia might have to totally implode, taking us all with her, and then regenerate herself. Cycle of life..which may end up being just the bacteria, viruses and robots! It'd be good if there's any robots left because at least we could programme them to tell our story to any wandering aliens who happen upon our overheated dump in a few centuries. Nothing will change because of political short-termism and the market's greed. We have to make a decision to survive and I don't see our leaders stepping up to the plate as there's no votes in a shrinking economy. The best we can hope for is that someone invents a free energy generator like a nuclear fusion reactor, but getting funding is hard because the benefits are so distant due to it being rather difficult. Or maybe everyone will embrace alternative tech like wind and wave power but the majority in the UK don't want it. I doubt the reality of global warming will sink in until it's too late...
[FairfieldLife] Creme's new info on Nato, space brothers, cropcircles, sun spots, Maitreya
Q. If the idea is for your message to gain as broad exposure as possible, why would it be wrong to provide transcripts of what was said in the various interviews with Maitreya that you claim have been happening? If these interviews are making an impression, why have there not been any leaks from any of the media personnel presumably involved? A. Maitreya is acting incognito. Even those He works with for the production of His media appearances are unsure of His true status. Q. What makes you so sure Maitreya is a ‘he’? A. I have worked for Maitreya for many years and know my right from my left hand! Q. My understanding is that the USA’s history/military involvement (i.e. since World War I-II) has not been justified. It seems that we are only making things worse by continuing the cycle of violence. That said, what is the best action (or inaction) we can take about ISIS? A. The existence of ISIS is a result of the war in Iraq and the divisions which have emerged since the death of Saddam Hussein. They are also the result of the sense of inequality felt by the poorer members of the Muslim community as a whole. There is only one way out of this major problem and that is the one proposed by Maitreya – the sharing of the produce of the world, freedom and justice for all peoples. Q. Were you putting words in the mouth of the Masters when you had them making the preposterous claim that 80 per cent of global warming or climate change is manmade? The most drastic climate shifts occurred before industrial civilization, or even civilization itself – the Ice Ages, the mediaeval warming period and the Little Ice Age, when fairs were held in winter on the frozen Thames. How does it help your cause to offer such ill-considered views, as if to say, just like many religious fundamentalists, that science and reason are inferior to what purports to be Divine revelation but clearly is far from that? A. I am quite aware of the various climatic changes stretching back in time but that is not what I have been talking about. I have not been talking about historical climate shifts but about the recent impact of the misuse of resources of the planet which has made man responsible for 80 per cent of global warming in recent times. Q. (1) How does Hierarchy see the role of NATO now and in the near future? (2) Should NATO be disbanded? A. (1) As a necessary world grouping. (2) No. Q. Sun spot activity in the last week of August and early September 2014 has been dramatic. (1) What is the energetic effect on our planet and on humanity of such violent solar storms? (2) Are such solar eruptions beneficial for our planet? A. (1) Profound in many ways. (2) Yes. Q. I recently have begun to read books by Benjamin Creme and Alice Bailey; and I’ve come across references to “The Plan”; I would like to know if you can provide me with information concerning the Plan, and point to where I can get further information. A. The Plan is the Plan of Hierarchy for the perfectionment of men. It is the Plan of Evolution including the evolution of consciousness. A study of the books of Alice Bailey will give a clear idea of this subject. Q. A cursory glance at the internet seems to suggest that UFO activity appears to be increasing. (1) Is this true? (2) Are the space people stepping up their activity? (3) Are the space people allowing themselves and their crafts to be seen more frequently? A. (1) Yes. (2) Yes. (3) Not markedly. Q. (1) Are more crop circles appearing in new locations? (2) Are media reporting them more? A. (1) Yes. (2) No, if anything, less. Q. What is the value of equipping the mind through education and general learning when that very process could inhibit the ability to contact the soul and also our ability to simply ‘be’? A. No one can fully partake of life today who has not enriched his/her mind. http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sword of Cleavage
Hmmm, the post title may have been lost in translation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme, 6 September 2014 Many people believe that despite the presence of Maitreya in the world, everything is becoming more threatening and unstable than hitherto. They wonder what Hierarchy is doing to ease the many problems and difficulties that leave them afraid and unprepared for the heightened tension of today. The truth is, the world is being prepared. In times of great tension and change, people look at problems with a limited view – which they inevitably have – of the true state of society. Humanity imagines that all these events have the same impact and importance for the future, whereas the true view, which only the Masters can see, is altogether different. The Masters see the happenings as if occurring on a flat plane, and as potential only. They know that some will precipitate and effect world change, while others will simply wither away without any precipitation at all. Humanity, with its limited vision, sees all these events as bearing on their future but this assuredly is not the case. From the Masters’ point of view humanity has never been so ready for the new world that the future will bring. It has never been so near a time of inspiration and readiness to work for the common weal. When the Christ said that He would return (in such a time as we think not), He would bring not soft words of spurious peace but a sword, the Sword of Cleavage, which would separate father from son and brother from brother. It is precisely the action of the Sword of Cleavage that we are witnessing today. Maitreya’s energy of love stimulates everyone: the one who loves, and works for justice and sharing, but also the one who causes the divisions, schisms and greed in the world. In this way, through the clear opposition created by the Sword of Cleavage, men can arrive at a true choice for the future – the future for all men, the poor and hungry as well as the men of money and the destroyers of peace in the world. Each of us must choose on which side of that division we find our truth. The Sword of Cleavage - Share International magazine October 2014 issue http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm The Sword of Cleavage - Share International magazi... http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm The main purpose of this web site is to present information about the emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher, and his message of hope for the future View on www.share-internation... http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-10.htm Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Snow circles!
These amazing patterns are too intricate to have been done by humans, maybe the Space Brothers can't be bothered to go home to The Pleaides any more? http://www.theguardian.com/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/gallery/2014/nov/06/simon-becks-snow-art-landscapes-mathematical-designs-drawings-alps http://www.theguardian.com/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/gallery/2014/nov/06/simon-becks-snow-art-landscapes-mathematical-designs-drawings-alps
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
It also makes it easier to commit suicide the next time around. Before you know it, you're in a cycle of suicide at the drop of a hat. It's an impression that will come back to haunt you life after life.. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to occur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, when I think about how awful were the last 3 years of my step Dad's life, and more than once he expressed the wish to be dead, I think suicide is sometimes the right thing to do. I think unnecessary suffering is morally wrong. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November
[FairfieldLife] Mind control study
Oh oh, better send the Amazing Randi to the University of Washington! :-D http://betabeat.com/2014/11/its-now-possible-for-one-persons-brain-to-control-another-personss-movements/ Science is ever changing and never static.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Yep, it gets messy - On the other hand, without technology, many of us wouldn't be alive, period. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The moral dilemma of our times though is that our medical practices may allow us to extend life when someone is terminally ill beyond where they may have died if they didn't do anything about the illness. On 11/06/2014 08:40 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, I have been aware of this also, that if suicide is done, the person must wait out their karma. It is not a moral issue, but one of complicating one's life, by destroying the physical vessel. The lesson learned is that we cannot ever be destroyed, and if a suicide, the lesson is learned, while imprisoned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mind control study
Bhairitu, Univ of Wash must be a very cool place. The Love Lab is also located
there. They can predict with 96% accuracy which marriages will succeed and
which will not. Evidently what's necessary is a 5 to 1 ratio of positive to
negative comments.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 1:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Mind control study
Oh oh, better send the Amazing Randi to the University of Washington! :-D
http://betabeat.com/2014/11/its-now-possible-for-one-persons-brain-to-control-another-personss-movements/
Science is ever changing and never static.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life
Barry, You should be aware that I don't have any involvement with this video nor do I know what's in it, nor do I approve of it. You again erroneously concluded that I approve of it. What have you been smoking lately, dude? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : BTW, it looks as if Salyavin was correct about the way this The Principle video was made, with the producers misleading the experts and even (see quote that follows from Wikipedia) the narrator as to what the nature of the show they were producing was. I happen to know the producer of the What the Bleep... videos, and know that they were made the same way, with the producers lying to the supposed onscreen scientists and experts about what their film/agenda was really about, and then taking their actual comments completely out of context within the film itself. This is the sort of garbage that JohnR feels is authoritative. What a wanker... Claims Following the release of the film's trailer, narrator Kate Mulgrew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Mulgrew said that she was misinformed as to the purpose of the documentary.[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-7[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-8 Max Tegmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Tegmark claims that DeLano cleverly tricked a whole bunch of us scientists into thinking that they were independent filmmakers doing an ordinary cosmology documentary, without mentioning anything about their hidden agenda.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-PopSci-9 George Ellis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ellis has said that I was interviewed for it but they did not disclose this agenda, which of course is nonsense. I don't think it's worth responding to -- it just gives them publicity. To ignore is the best policy. But for the record, I totally disavow that silly agenda.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-PopSci-9 Michio Kaku said that the film was likely clever editing of his statements and bordered on intellectual dishonesty[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-yahoo-2 and Lawrence Krauss said he had no recollection of being interviewed for the film and would have refused to be in it if he had known more about it.[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-10[11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-11 Julian Barbour claims he never gave permission to be in the film. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-think_progress-12 The Principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-think_progress-12 The Principle is a 2014 American documentary film produced by Rick Delano and Robert Sungenis questioning the Copernican principle and discussing geocentricism. The film opened in Chicago on October 24, 2014. The film is narrated by Kate Mulgrew and features scientists such ... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-think_progress-12 Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life Heh. I knew you'd love this BS, jr. It's right up your alley, *including* attempts to redefine the universe as Earth-centric. It's like New Age Self-Importance Meets Medieval Cosmology Re-expressed As Woo Woo Physics. :-) You seem to be under the impression, however, that we actually CARE about what YOU believe. I can't speak for Sal, but given the way that you've demonstrated your mind works over the years on this forum, nothing you believe could *possibly* interest me. Therefore I'll let you find the real video and report on it here to those as gullible as yourself. :-) From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life Salyavin and Barry, Both of you have jumped to conclusions, which is very typical with the way you think, about the content of this video. As you have seen, the video is only a teaser or excerpt of the real video--which you have not seen. Therefore, you've made criticism about something you don't know anything about and have assumed what the content of the video is. Both of you are not rational. You are delusional. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Gosh, that might really ruined Salyavin's day. :-D Why? They possibly found life there in the 70's but they landed the rover in the
[FairfieldLife] What Jim Carrey Explains In 1 Minute Will Change Your Life Forever.
What Jim Carrey Explains In 1 Minute Will Change Your Life Forever. Seriously. http://www.mobiledia.com/news/199433.html http://www.mobiledia.com/news/199433.html What Jim Carrey Explains In 1 Minute Will Change Your Li... http://www.mobiledia.com/news/199433.html Just one minute. You'll be glad you saw this. View on www.mobiledia.com http://www.mobiledia.com/news/199433.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind control study
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Oh oh, better send the Amazing Randi to the University of Washington! :-D Perhaps you didn't finish the article, they were electrically connected by EEG caps and receivers. Nothing paranormal going on there. No million dollar prize required. http://betabeat.com/2014/11/its-now-possible-for-one-persons-brain-to-control-another-personss-movements/ http://betabeat.com/2014/11/its-now-possible-for-one-persons-brain-to-control-another-personss-movements/ Science is ever changing and never static. Yup, I'll drink to that. But the phenomena it studies seem to stay within the laws of nature.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life
Salyavin, At least, you admit that you have not seen the video, and that you are speculating. But the fact remains that you don't know anything about the video's content. Barry, however, puts his faith on an article from Wikipedia, which he has questioned as being authoritative in the recent past. Also, he has not seen the video itself. Is this hypocrisy or what? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Good find. I recognised Krauss and I know Michio Kaku from BBC documentaries, they do both have a penchant for talking up the weird aspects of particle physics so I could see where you'd get your ammunition from if you wanted to do this sort of thing. Bit cheeky though... I will still watch the film of course, I expect it's about the apparent fine tuning of the universe for life like us as that's a hot topic at the moment. And some people see it as evidence of design. It all comes down to the initial state during the big bang, if the interaction between charged particles was a few percent smaller no planets would ever have formed and if the expansion rate at the start had been only slightly higher there would be no stars. No stars means no elements heavier than hydrogen and consequently no life. This all gets spun by some into proof that the universe was designed for us. The wiggle room they have is that there isn't yet a good and accepted explanation of why the universe is like it is and not some other way. Seems obvious to me that if it was another way at the start we wouldn't be here to comment on it. Is it just a coincidence, or are some people reaching for the God of the Gaps to fulfill their own need for a creator? Speculation amongst people who don't need a god to explain things brings the solution down to: it's just randomly like that or we wouldn't be here. Our universe is part of a multiverse where every possible universe happens and we just live in the bit capable of supporting us. Or there may have been millions of universes that couldn't sustain life, or even matter, and fell apart leaving space for the right one to eventually come along with us to comment on it. Or something else no one has thought of yet. Whatever the answer is it's going to be something simple because it always is, you can't start inventing a need for complexity just to provide room for something you want. It's a silly way to carry on. But you can make a film about it being all a bit weird if you like... Just all a guess on what it's about, I shall watch it when it arrives and see what they're on about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : BTW, it looks as if Salyavin was correct about the way this The Principle video was made, with the producers misleading the experts and even (see quote that follows from Wikipedia) the narrator as to what the nature of the show they were producing was. I happen to know the producer of the What the Bleep... videos, and know that they were made the same way, with the producers lying to the supposed onscreen scientists and experts about what their film/agenda was really about, and then taking their actual comments completely out of context within the film itself. This is the sort of garbage that JohnR feels is authoritative. What a wanker... Claims Following the release of the film's trailer, narrator Kate Mulgrew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Mulgrew said that she was misinformed as to the purpose of the documentary.[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-7[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-8 Max Tegmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Tegmark claims that DeLano cleverly tricked a whole bunch of us scientists into thinking that they were independent filmmakers doing an ordinary cosmology documentary, without mentioning anything about their hidden agenda.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-PopSci-9 George Ellis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ellis has said that I was interviewed for it but they did not disclose this agenda, which of course is nonsense. I don't think it's worth responding to -- it just gives them publicity. To ignore is the best policy. But for the record, I totally disavow that silly agenda.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-PopSci-9 Michio Kaku said that the film was likely clever editing of his statements and bordered on intellectual dishonesty[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-yahoo-2 and Lawrence Krauss said he had no recollection of being interviewed for the film and would have refused to be in it if he had known more about it.[10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-10[11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-11 Julian Barbour claims he never gave permission to be in the film. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-think_progress-12
[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA today
Might as well face the music. The latest bad news: Starbucks is going belly-up in California. Due to the drought, there is almost no hot snow left. It is almost impossible to eat a dead bird without a nourishing cup of hot snow, to wash it all down - the feathers keep getting stuck in the teeth. Anyone who doesn't immediately book a one way ticket to The People's Paradise Of North Korea, is nuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Shocking footage showing what life is really like in the States. Enjoy your cup of hot snow . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Makes sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : It also makes it easier to commit suicide the next time around. Before you know it, you're in a cycle of suicide at the drop of a hat. It's an impression that will come back to haunt you life after life.. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Share, I'm saying that it is possible to make a logical and loving decision regarding suicide which will satisfy natural law. It can be found in your own conscience. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to occur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, when I think about how awful were the last 3 years of my step Dad's life, and more than once he expressed the wish to be dead, I think suicide is sometimes the right thing to do. I think unnecessary suffering is morally wrong. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Bhairitu, You've raised a good question. But it is considered a higher principle that the end does not justify the means. In other words, one must act licitly to make a moral act. You cannot kill another person or group of persons in order to obtain political power--which we can see the evil effects that are happening in Iraq and Syria. Similarly, the same principle applies to taking one's own life. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : If you were suffering from terminal brain cancer would you really want to see it through to the end as your mind, vision, hearing went away? On 11/04/2014 10:36 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Snow circles!
The snowshoe guy! I see he has branched out onto beaches. Really like his stuff. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : These amazing patterns are too intricate to have been done by humans, maybe the Space Brothers can't be bothered to go home to The Pleaides any more? http://www.theguardian.com/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/gallery/2014/nov/06/simon-becks-snow-art-landscapes-mathematical-designs-drawings-alps http://www.theguardian.com/science/alexs-adventures-in-numberland/gallery/2014/nov/06/simon-becks-snow-art-landscapes-mathematical-designs-drawings-alps
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Bhairitu, From what I understand, most terminal patients are heavily drugged by hospitals and hospices that they don't feel any pain. They eventually die by the disease itself or related causes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. If we violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow violence or suicide to occur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mind control study
Actually I read part of the study paper too. Did you? On 11/06/2014 12:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Oh oh, better send the Amazing Randi to the University of Washington! :-D Perhaps you didn't finish the article, they were electrically connected by EEG caps and receivers. Nothing paranormal going on there. No million dollar prize required. http://betabeat.com/2014/11/its-now-possible-for-one-persons-brain-to-control-another-personss-movements/ Science is ever changing and never static. Yup, I'll drink to that. But the phenomena it studies seem to stay within the laws of nature.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
This is the other side of the coin. IMO, it is not necessary to prolong life if the body can't function on its own in a natural way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The moral dilemma of our times though is that our medical practices may allow us to extend life when someone is terminally ill beyond where they may have died if they didn't do anything about the illness. On 11/06/2014 08:40 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah, I have been aware of this also, that if suicide is done, the person must wait out their karma. It is not a moral issue, but one of complicating one's life, by destroying the physical vessel. The lesson learned is that we cannot ever be destroyed, and if a suicide, the lesson is learned, while imprisoned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mind control study
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Actually I read part of the study paper too. Did you? Why waste time, if you've found anything paranormal just post it! On 11/06/2014 12:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Oh oh, better send the Amazing Randi to the University of Washington! :-D Perhaps you didn't finish the article, they were electrically connected by EEG caps and receivers. Nothing paranormal going on there. No million dollar prize required. http://betabeat.com/2014/11/its-now-possible-for-one-persons-brain-to-control-another-personss-movements/ http://betabeat.com/2014/11/its-now-possible-for-one-persons-brain-to-control-another-personss-movements/ Science is ever changing and never static. Yup, I'll drink to that. But the phenomena it studies seem to stay within the laws of nature.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mars had Life
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, At least, you admit that you have not seen the video, and that you are speculating. But the fact remains that you don't know anything about the video's content. It's called an educated guess, what else could it be about given the trailer? You've got a bunch of physicists talking about some principle intercut with very suggestive clips. [Pause to read article] LOL, I just read it properly and saw it's about Geocentrism! No wonder they all want to distance themselves from it! What nonsense. Still, I really can't wait to see it to see how they justify the claim the Earth is at the centre of the universe. It won't be anything any sane physicist would want to be a part of. Maybe John Hagelin is in it It's apparently been out for a while, do post a link if you find it. Barry, however, puts his faith on an article from Wikipedia, which he has questioned as being authoritative in the recent past. Also, he has not seen the video itself. Is this hypocrisy or what? Looks like a good expose to me, do you have quibbles with the content? Then find an article that explains why this one is wrong. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Good find. I recognised Krauss and I know Michio Kaku from BBC documentaries, they do both have a penchant for talking up the weird aspects of particle physics so I could see where you'd get your ammunition from if you wanted to do this sort of thing. Bit cheeky though... I will still watch the film of course, I expect it's about the apparent fine tuning of the universe for life like us as that's a hot topic at the moment. And some people see it as evidence of design. It all comes down to the initial state during the big bang, if the interaction between charged particles was a few percent smaller no planets would ever have formed and if the expansion rate at the start had been only slightly higher there would be no stars. No stars means no elements heavier than hydrogen and consequently no life. This all gets spun by some into proof that the universe was designed for us. The wiggle room they have is that there isn't yet a good and accepted explanation of why the universe is like it is and not some other way. Seems obvious to me that if it was another way at the start we wouldn't be here to comment on it. Is it just a coincidence, or are some people reaching for the God of the Gaps to fulfill their own need for a creator? Speculation amongst people who don't need a god to explain things brings the solution down to: it's just randomly like that or we wouldn't be here. Our universe is part of a multiverse where every possible universe happens and we just live in the bit capable of supporting us. Or there may have been millions of universes that couldn't sustain life, or even matter, and fell apart leaving space for the right one to eventually come along with us to comment on it. Or something else no one has thought of yet. Whatever the answer is it's going to be something simple because it always is, you can't start inventing a need for complexity just to provide room for something you want. It's a silly way to carry on. But you can make a film about it being all a bit weird if you like... Just all a guess on what it's about, I shall watch it when it arrives and see what they're on about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : BTW, it looks as if Salyavin was correct about the way this The Principle video was made, with the producers misleading the experts and even (see quote that follows from Wikipedia) the narrator as to what the nature of the show they were producing was. I happen to know the producer of the What the Bleep... videos, and know that they were made the same way, with the producers lying to the supposed onscreen scientists and experts about what their film/agenda was really about, and then taking their actual comments completely out of context within the film itself. This is the sort of garbage that JohnR feels is authoritative. What a wanker... Claims Following the release of the film's trailer, narrator Kate Mulgrew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Mulgrew said that she was misinformed as to the purpose of the documentary.[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-7[8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-8 Max Tegmark http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Tegmark claims that DeLano cleverly tricked a whole bunch of us scientists into thinking that they were independent filmmakers doing an ordinary cosmology documentary, without mentioning anything about their hidden agenda.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle#cite_note-PopSci-9 George Ellis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ellis has said that I was interviewed for it but they did not disclose this agenda, which of course is nonsense.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Mike, According to Srimad Bhagavatam, it is also possible for a person, depending on the severity of his or her karma, to reincarnate into other species below human beings. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : It also makes it easier to commit suicide the next time around. Before you know it, you're in a cycle of suicide at the drop of a hat. It's an impression that will come back to haunt you life after life.. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The USA today
Through most of the summer I was getting freebies at Starbucks. Then they cut those back. They were mainly promos to program you to buy some new product which in the long term means you will be spending more money there. They've cut back on things like a free drink if you buy a pound of coffee. I still got my free drink yesterday being on the Gold program but I wonder how soon they will curtail that or limit what you get for free. I always order the most expensive and largest Clover drink when I get the free one. I watch these trends to see how businesses are doing. Prices are going up. The Jet Stream is too far north again bring snow to Chicago and no rain to California. Soon we'll be inverse Oakies. OTOH, I can now really justify my security cameras because this morning the next door neighbor was burgled. In fact I saw the perps and mainly their SUV since it was parked in front. I was expecting Fedex to deliver my new BD player so was keeping an eye out. Unfortunately right before Halloween I moved the camera as it was recording too many cars going past so I didn't get a video of the perps. But the camera I figure keeps perps away. I also didn't think anything about the SUV because the neighbor is a contractor and frequently has workers dropping by to pick up or deliver things and beside they also have an SUV of similar color. A cop dropped by to get info from me. On 11/06/2014 12:09 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Might as well face the music. The latest bad news: Starbucks is going belly-up in California. Due to the drought, there is almost no hot snow left. It is almost impossible to eat a dead bird without a nourishing cup of hot snow, to wash it all down - the feathers keep getting stuck in the teeth. Anyone who doesn't immediately book a one way ticket to The People's Paradise Of North Korea, is nuts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Shocking footage showing what life is really like in the States. Enjoy your cup of hot snow . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
There is a small amount of waiting, but all desires are realized, through the steady practice of TM, and integrating the changes as they occur. Bullshit, nonsense, not true - take your pick. The lives of many Fairfield residents when I was there was a testament to the lack of truth in what you are saying. I never in my life have seen a more desperate, needy bunch of people. To be fair, they were not more or less so than anyone else, BUT THE ONUS that had been put on them by Marshy's bullshit 200% of life deal made everyone feel not up to par if they were not rich and in utterly fulfilling extra special good relationships and in perfect health. There were more people cheating on each other than you could shake a stick at, droves of people with all kinds of ailments and all of them clawing for some kind of support of nature where money and relationships were concerned - this was true for faculty, staff, and SuperRadiance people too. TM does not fulfill desires, this is one of your pro-TM fantasies and nothing more. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People There is a small amount of waiting, but all desires are realized, through the steady practice of TM, and integrating the changes as they occur. Many people including you, skipped the last part, hence your misery. I cannot say anything except that I feel sorry for you and Barry and Curtis. On the other hand, I consider you each responsible for yourselves, and it is too bad you have chosen this path of ignorance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized Never has a more blatant pile of hog manure ever been posted on FFL. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People Well said, Buck. yes there is a small group of individuals here, who did not receive a lasting benefit from Maharishi's TM and TMSP techniques, didn't do the work, and now have both no lasting inner silence, or the support of nature that accompanies it. So, essentially those who have been successful with TM, and those who haven't, live in two very different worlds. Theirs (TM bashers) is one where success comes rarely, if at all, whereas the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized. There isn't any way for those ignorant of spiritual experience to catch a clue, regarding what existence is like, along with the success of TM. It takes a lot of self introspection, an ongoing, and uncompromising look at one's self, which those who don't do TM are simply incapable of, to any degree of depth. You are correct - It isn't personal. It isn't even about ideas. It is about one group, which regularly integrates the transcendent value of life, to their great benefit, vs. another group who lives life as they have for thousands of years, unfulfilled, and unaware of the vast potential, within each one of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, no, you two are being way too simplistic with this. There are two groups here on FFL distinguished in their science by ontology; one group who are transcendentalists by depth of experience and the others who are ignorant of spiritual experience. It breaks out pretty clearly along that line. I can appreciate that you guys can not see this and that you think instead that it is about you. -Buck turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues [FairfieldLife] You know what is the dominate dynamic on FFL? There is a group who criticizes the organization we were all a part of, the founder and the beliefs of the followers. (I am a proud member of this group.) And a group who personally attacks their personal life with made-up assumptions about their state of mind and life in place of making a reasoned argument for the positive power of their beliefs. The single counter argument for this group, no matter what detail of the movement and its beliefs are criticized seems to be : Yeah but you are a poopy pants so neirner, neiner, neiner! This is a stunning indictment of the vocal supporters of Maharishi here that the sophistic tool of personal attack, complete with fabrications about the critics personal life and business, is the go-to weapon in practically every response. It's called Hive Mind, and it looks like this: Bark Lice Moving In Sync Provide An Interesting Look Into The Hive Mind Of Insects And let me cut off the but. but, but he started it routine. You guys are supposed to be representing the most precious knowledge of mankind and HIGHER states
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Didn't Maharishi say that if you die on drugs you come back as a rock? I think Frank Zappa wrote a song about it. Wristcutters was the movie I was thinking of: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477139/ The hospital bill would kill anyone off. On 11/06/2014 12:26 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, From what I understand, most terminal patients are heavily drugged by hospitals and hospices that they don't feel any pain. They eventually die by the disease itself or related causes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? *From:* jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
Bhairitu, I heard that if a person commits suicide, they come back as a fruit tree. I am not making this up. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Didn't Maharishi say that if you die on drugs you come back as a rock? I think Frank Zappa wrote a song about it. Wristcutters was the movie I was thinking of: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477139/ The hospital bill would kill anyone off. On 11/06/2014 12:26 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, From what I understand, most terminal patients are heavily drugged by hospitals and hospices that they don't feel any pain. They eventually die by the disease itself or related causes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Inother words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Thecorrect answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John,I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, I sympathize with your step Dad's suffering. My mother also had a very painful and difficult death. It is not easy to follow a moral act and, as humans, we should be able to make such choices. But one has to be mindful of performing acts that do not violate natural laws. Ifwe violate natural laws, IMO the law of karma will take effect and could detrimentally affect our families and society that allow
Re: [FairfieldLife] Congratulations, Voters. You Just Made This Climate Denier the Most Powerful Senator on the Environment.
So blame the non-existent Marshy Effect - and come to think of it, I bet the TMO will blame the election results on the lack of numbers in the Domes (which they themselves continually sabotage as Buck has said) and will use that excuse to exhort the faithful to contribute MORE money to the TMO and the yagya programmes so they can get the sattvic Democrats back in office, you know like Liar Obama whom the Movement took credit for electing 6 years ago? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Congratulations, Voters. You Just Made This Climate Denier the Most Powerful Senator on the Environment. http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120134/climate-change-denier-james-inhofe-lead-environment-committee
Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Bhairitu, I heard that if a person commits suicide, they come back as a fruit tree. I am not making this up. Just as long as I don't come back as a fruit cake... From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Didn't Maharishi say that if you die on drugs you come back as a rock? I think Frank Zappa wrote a song about it. Wristcutters was the movie I was thinking of: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477139/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477139/ The hospital bill would kill anyone off. On 11/06/2014 12:26 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, From what I understand, most terminal patients are heavily drugged by hospitals and hospices that they don't feel any pain. They eventually die by the disease itself or related causes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I recall Charlie Lutes take on the subject that though suicide is frowned on in the yogic traditions he could see doing when facing prolonged agony like from a slow death by cancer. In the eastern traditions including Buddhism they believe that if you commit suicide you get stuck in some middle world. The published suicide mantra is of the maran class and is also an Agni mantra. On 11/06/2014 04:27 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: John and turq, what got me rethinking all this is that idea of life full of possibilities to enjoy. Is it healthy to give up on that? Is it honoring, turq of life itself to give up on the possibility of joy and love? And turq, is not suicide also often driven by FEAR? Since you're using presence of fear as a measuring stick. At this moment I'm thinking that what's healthiest is to act from a place of embodied settledness rather than fear. And we can't really predict what action might thus result. And can we really legislate about people's states of being?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? In other words, it's a Big Invisible Daddy In The Sky thang, Share. If you do something He don't like, He slap yo ass. :-) JohnR's position on all of this is just a retread of that same old familiar F E A R that has driven religious thought for centuries: 'Morality' consists of doing what *we* say to do during your life so that Bad Things don't happen to you after your death. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, Taking one's own life is similar to killing another person. In both cases, a life, that is full of possibilities to perform good and to enjoy life, has been taken away and denied. The act of killing oneself or another person is against Nature's functioning, which is to create life and to promote joy in existence. The violation of natural law will have consequences or bad karma in yourself, the family or the environment. The following adage would apply: you reap what you sow. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I don't see how the principle of ends not justifying means fits in this situation. The person is taking their own life, probably to avoid unnecessary suffering. What is morally wrong about that, in your view? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Is it Moral to Commit Suicide? Share, The correct answer is that one should follow one's conscience to the best of his or her ability. But one should follow the principle that the end does not justify the means. IMO, ending one's own life through suicide is not following the principle above. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I'm not sure that suicide is always in violation of natural law. What makes you think that? From: jr_esq@...
Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People
Yep, I started TM cuz I thought it would fulfill all my desires. Now I'm glad it didn't because some of them weren't very mature and healthy! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People There is a small amount of waiting, but all desires are realized, through the steady practice of TM, and integrating the changes as they occur. Bullshit, nonsense, not true - take your pick. The lives of many Fairfield residents when I was there was a testament to the lack of truth in what you are saying. I never in my life have seen a more desperate, needy bunch of people. To be fair, they were not more or less so than anyone else, BUT THE ONUS that had been put on them by Marshy's bullshit 200% of life deal made everyone feel not up to par if they were not rich and in utterly fulfilling extra special good relationships and in perfect health. There were more people cheating on each other than you could shake a stick at, droves of people with all kinds of ailments and all of them clawing for some kind of support of nature where money and relationships were concerned - this was true for faculty, staff, and SuperRadiance people too. TM does not fulfill desires, this is one of your pro-TM fantasies and nothing more. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People There is a small amount of waiting, but all desires are realized, through the steady practice of TM, and integrating the changes as they occur. Many people including you, skipped the last part, hence your misery. I cannot say anything except that I feel sorry for you and Barry and Curtis. On the other hand, I consider you each responsible for yourselves, and it is too bad you have chosen this path of ignorance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized Never has a more blatant pile of hog manure ever been posted on FFL. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 7 Techniques to Handle Toxic People Well said, Buck. yes there is a small group of individuals here, who did not receive a lasting benefit from Maharishi's TM and TMSP techniques, didn't do the work, and now have both no lasting inner silence, or the support of nature that accompanies it. So, essentially those who have been successful with TM, and those who haven't, live in two very different worlds. Theirs (TM bashers) is one where success comes rarely, if at all, whereas the other group simply thinks, and desires are realized. There isn't any way for those ignorant of spiritual experience to catch a clue, regarding what existence is like, along with the success of TM. It takes a lot of self introspection, an ongoing, and uncompromising look at one's self, which those who don't do TM are simply incapable of, to any degree of depth. You are correct - It isn'tpersonal. It isn't even about ideas. It is about one group, which regularly integrates the transcendent value of life, to their great benefit, vs. another group who lives life as they have for thousands of years, unfulfilled, and unaware of the vast potential, within each one of them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, no, you two are being way toosimplistic with this. There are two groups here on FFL distinguished in their science by ontology; one group who are transcendentalists by depth ofexperience and the others who are ignorant of spiritual experience.It breaks out pretty clearly along that line. I can appreciate thatyou guys can not see this and that you think instead that it is aboutyou. -Buck turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues [FairfieldLife] You know what is the dominate dynamic on FFL? There is a group who criticizes the organization we were all a part of, the founder and the beliefs of the followers. (I am a proud member of this group.) And a group who personally attacks their personal life with made-up assumptions about their state of mind and life in place of making a reasoned argument for the positive power of their beliefs. The single counter argument for this group, no matter what detail of the movement and its beliefs are criticized seems to be : Yeah but you are a poopy pants so neirner, neiner, neiner! This is a stunning indictment of the vocal supporters of Maharishi here thatthe sophistic tool of personal attack, complete with fabrications about the critics personal life and
[FairfieldLife] Statue Head Found on Mars
NASA identified this rock but does not comment to its similarity to an elongated head which probably depicts the likeness of the Mars inhabitants in the distant past. http://www.examiner.com/article/statue-of-an-elongated-head-identified-by-nasa-mars-rover-photo http://www.examiner.com/article/statue-of-an-elongated-head-identified-by-nasa-mars-rover-photo
[FairfieldLife] Re: unsubscribe
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bowtux1@... wrote : Please unsubscribe me from this news group. Thank you. No, once you've joined you can never leave, bwuhaha! Don Allen On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:16 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Fairfield Life Fairfield Life Group 15 Messages Digest #22766 1.1 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.2 Re: Rick: about your rule by Bhairitu bhairitu 1.3 Re: Rick: about your rule by Share Long sharelong60 1.4 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.5 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.6 Re: Rick: about your rule by Michael Jackson mjackson74 1.7 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.8 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.9 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.10 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 2a Re: Coup d'Etat in North Korea? by Bhairitu bhairitu 3a Re: What's On Your Mind? by Share Long sharelong60 4.1 Re: Bye Bye Dan and Jedi by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 4.2 Re: Bye Bye Dan and Jedi by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 5 Post Count Sun 05-Oct-14 00:15:06 UTC by FFL PostCount Messages 1.1 Re: Rick: about your rule Sat Oct 4, 2014 1:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by: Richard J. Williams pundit_sir On 10/4/2014 11:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: two birds, one stone. /That's one solution - stone the victim complaining; remove the offending message; and then ban the informant so he can't post a rebuttal.//Go figure./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ ... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti- Semetic /, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages. Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (89) . Top ^ 1.2 Re: Rick: about your rule Sat Oct 4, 2014 1:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by: Bhairitu bhairitu The semitic race includes Arabs, so if we blast Saudi Arabia are we being anti-semitics? And someone said to bash Zionism is being anti-Jewish. That's like saying all Christians are Republicans. Zionists are a right wing political faction. As far as Dan goes I had him in my Dangeon anyway for being an abusive poster and only replied to comments he started indirectly about TV or movies. On 10/04/2014 12:07 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Let's face it, Rick is being practical. The Jews are very aggressive about any antisemitism and could get someone at Yahoo freaked enough to close FFL down. It may not be right to surrender, but it does avoid the danger not yet come. If Yahoo closed FFL, the lost would be significant, but if Rick bans antisemitism, the lost to the world's ability to have free speech would be hardly noticed. An easy call for Rick, methinks. Now if the various communities around the world got as aggressively defensive, hoo boy, who could then say anything about anything? Think of all the downtrodden folks who could equally claim the world has smacked them as badly as were the Jews. I've never confronted
[FairfieldLife] Re: Statue Head Found on Mars
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : NASA identified this rock but does not comment to its similarity to an elongated head which probably depicts the likeness of the Mars inhabitants in the distant past. http://www.examiner.com/article/statue-of-an-elongated-head-identified-by-nasa-mars-rover-photo http://www.examiner.com/article/statue-of-an-elongated-head-identified-by-nasa-mars-rover-photo NASA JPL photo analysts had concluded that the apparent statue of a head was likely a rock that had been created either from a meteor impact or ancient volcanic activity. Another possible explanation, not mentioned by NASA JPL, is that the stone anomaly was part of a larger statue that had been carved during a past Martian civilization, and subsequently destroyed during cataclysmic events. Words fail me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: unsubscribe
From where did he get the idea that this is a news group, this is a bash-TM-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bowtux1@... wrote : Please unsubscribe me from this news group. Thank you. No, once you've joined you can never leave, bwuhaha! Don Allen On Saturday, October 4, 2014 8:16 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Fairfield Life Fairfield Life Group 15 Messages Digest #22766 1.1 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.2 Re: Rick: about your rule by Bhairitu bhairitu 1.3 Re: Rick: about your rule by Share Long sharelong60 1.4 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.5 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.6 Re: Rick: about your rule by Michael Jackson mjackson74 1.7 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.8 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.9 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 1.10 Re: Rick: about your rule by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 2a Re: Coup d'Etat in North Korea? by Bhairitu bhairitu 3a Re: What's On Your Mind? by Share Long sharelong60 4.1 Re: Bye Bye Dan and Jedi by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 4.2 Re: Bye Bye Dan and Jedi by Richard J. Williams pundit_sir 5 Post Count Sun 05-Oct-14 00:15:06 UTC by FFL PostCount Messages 1.1 Re: Rick: about your rule Sat Oct 4, 2014 1:32 pm (PDT) . Posted by: Richard J. Williams pundit_sir On 10/4/2014 11:53 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: two birds, one stone. /That's one solution - stone the victim complaining; remove the offending message; and then ban the informant so he can't post a rebuttal.//Go figure./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Booting off jedi for what appears merely to be expressing a view of Judaism seems absurd to me. It has often been said that the God of the Old Testament is, shall we say, a less than attractive character: jealous, vindictive, vengeful, cruel. That's not anti-Semitism. It's mere literary criticism. Yet on this board Little Mickey Jackson is allowed to spew forth his hate speech against MMY and the TMO every single day, full of crude insults and libelous accusations—and that's considered perfectly okay. There are some very curious double standards operating here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ ... wrote : On 10/3/2014 11:36 AM, Duveyoung wrote: H, Rick -- not sure but seems to me there's been plenty of anti-religion to go around -- not just against the Jews. If someone says TM is of the devil etc. with ALL CAPS etcwill you give equal warnings? Everyone makes mistakes. It looks like Rick considered Spock's message as /anti- Semetic /, when in fact it was just Spock's opinion about the Jewish religion. It looks like Rick panicked and got really scared when Dan threatened to file a report to the ADL, so Rick deleted Spock's message and put a ban on him posting. / Now we don't even know what jedi_spock posted because it's been deleted. This should be notice to you: you could be banned from FFL for expressing your opinion and all you messages deleted forever. Go figure./ P.S. When you change the subject title, Edg, you make it difficult to follow the conversation, and when you fail to click on Show message history, other informants don't even know what Rick's rule is about posting messages. Reply to sender . Reply to group . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (89) . Top ^ 1.2 Re: Rick: about your rule Sat Oct 4, 2014 1:37 pm (PDT) . Posted by: Bhairitu bhairitu The semitic race includes Arabs, so if we blast Saudi Arabia are we being anti-semitics? And someone said to bash Zionism is being anti-Jewish. That's like saying all Christians are Republicans. Zionists are a right wing political faction. As far as Dan goes I had him in my Dangeon anyway for being an abusive poster and only replied to comments he started indirectly about TV or movies. On 10/04/2014 12:07 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Let's face it, Rick is being practical. The Jews are very aggressive about any antisemitism and could get someone at Yahoo freaked enough to close FFL down. It may not be right to surrender, but it does avoid the danger not yet come. If Yahoo closed FFL, the lost would be significant, but if Rick bans antisemitism, the lost to the world's ability to have free speech would be hardly noticed. An easy call for Rick, methinks. Now if the various communities around the world got as aggressively defensive, hoo boy, who could then say anything
[FairfieldLife] Re: unsubscribe
From where did he get the idea that this is a news group ?
[FairfieldLife] Ghosts are a trick of the mind?
Would love to try this, a spirit manifestation gadget like that would make a fine Christmas present. Ghosts created by scientists in 'disturbing' lab experiment - Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/11214511/Ghosts-created-by-scientists-in-disturbing-lab-experiment.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/11214511/Ghosts-created-by-scientists-in-disturbing-lab-experiment.html Ghosts created by scientists in 'disturbing' lab... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/11214511/Ghosts-created-by-scientists-in-disturbing-lab-experiment.html Scientists in Switzerland have shown that ghosts are probably just an illusion created by the mind when it momentarily loses track of the body’s location View on www.telegraph.co.uk http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/11214511/Ghosts-created-by-scientists-in-disturbing-lab-experiment.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Statue Head Found on Mars
Because the human brain and perceptual system is especially tuned to face like forms, if you hunt enough you can find the likenesses of faces in just about any location. The Indian Head formation in the image below in New Hampshire is one example (it no longer exists as the rock face collapsed a few years ago). Finding shapes that look like familiar forms in the rocks on Mars is pretty easy considering the large number of images NASA has collected over the past 40 years. Looked at from another angle, those appearances may not look the same at all. Remember the 'face on Mars' from an orbital photo years ago? That turned out to be a mesa when rephotographed under higher resolution and it did not look like a face at all, it was just a trick of lighting and the low resolution of the original first photograph. Now finding something that looked exactly like an egg beater on the surface of Mars, that would be something. But these blurry rocks that sort of look like something, that is dim perception and dim thinking. Sometimes I see faces in the bundle of laundry thrown on the floor. Does that mean I have just discovered something momentous about the Earth and its history? All it means is my nervous system has detected a pattern that resembles one in my memory. Further investigation would be needed to affirm or deny anything beyond that. Having known UFO buffs, all I can say is they seem almost totally incapacitated when it comes to understanding science, its mental framework, and its method. Words indeed, fail http://www.rickcallahanphotography.com/images/indian_head_rock_nh.jpg http://www.rickcallahanphotography.com/images/indian_head_rock_nh.jpg http://www.rickcallahanphotography.com/images/indian_head_rock_nh.jpg http://www.rickcallahanphotography.com/images/indian_hea... http://www.rickcallahanphotography.com/images/indian_head_rock_nh.jpg View on www.rickcallahanphot... http://www.rickcallahanphotography.com/images/indian_head_rock_nh.jpg Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : NASA identified this rock but does not comment to its similarity to an elongated head which probably depicts the likeness of the Mars inhabitants in the distant past. http://www.examiner.com/article/statue-of-an-elongated-head-identified-by-nasa-mars-rover-photo http://www.examiner.com/article/statue-of-an-elongated-head-identified-by-nasa-mars-rover-photo NASA JPL photo analysts had concluded that the apparent statue of a head was likely a rock that had been created either from a meteor impact or ancient volcanic activity. Another possible explanation, not mentioned by NASA JPL, is that the stone anomaly was part of a larger statue that had been carved during a past Martian civilization, and subsequently destroyed during cataclysmic events. Words fail me.
