[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
But not destroyed by the FBI, contrary to what you were implying. Also, we don't know that Clinton "had her aide" do it. Whoever did it may have done it on his own initiative after everything on the devices had been transferred to the one she was currently using. (She only used one BlackBerry at a time, as you know.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : According to what I've read, Hillary Clinton had her aide smash two of her non-government issued Blackberry phones with a hammer. Apparently no records were kept of these events and nobody knows what happened to the parts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As you know--according to what you've read--two devices were destroyed, those of Clinton aide Cheryl Mills and former aide Heather Samuelson. We don't know whether records of their destruction were maintained; most likely they were, since their destruction, as you know, was part of an immunity deal negotiated by the lawyer for the two aides. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, some of the digital devices used by Clinton, Abaden and thier staff were destroyed using hammers. How many, nobody seems to know. Maybe they just took the phones and iPads out back to the alley at night and smashed them. Apparently no records of their destruction were maintained. They are just missing. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As has been pointed out to you, the FBI has not destroyed the Abedin/Weiner devices. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://youtu.be/pD2xBXm4y70 https://youtu.be/pD2xBXm4y70 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mika Brazinski on Comey
Also the chief White House ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opinion/on-clinton-emails-did-the-fbi-director-abuse-his-power.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/opinion/on-clinton-emails-did-the-fbi-director-abuse-his-power.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Also the chairman of the House "Freedom Caucus" (the very conservative Republican caucus), Rep. Jim Jordan: House Freedom Caucus Chair Says Comey Letter 'Probably Not' Appropriate http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-jordan-criticizes-comey-letter-clinton http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-jordan-criticizes-comey-letter-clinton House Freedom Caucus Chair Says Comey Letter 'Probab... http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-jordan-criticizes-comey-letter-clinton The chairman of the far-right House Freedom Caucus said Monday that FBI Director James Comey was probably wrong to announce the discovery of ne... View on talkingpointsmemo.com http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-jordan-criticizes-comey-letter-clinton Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You forgot to mention that all kinds of Republicans have also been calling Comey out, including more than 30 former state attorneys general, both Republican and Democratic: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/james-comey-criticism-state-attorneys-general-230536 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/james-comey-criticism-state-attorneys-general-230536 Also former Bush attorney general Alberto Gonzalez: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/alberto-gonzalez-clinton-email-fbi-230535 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/alberto-gonzalez-clinton-email-fbi-230535 And former Bush attorney general Michael Mukasey: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/michael-mukasey-james-comey-clinton-email-230521 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/michael-mukasey-james-comey-clinton-email-230521 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE Brzezinski calls out Democrats for hypocrisy over Comey, Scarborough mocks ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
Right. However, we don't have the email database, now, do we? So we can't search through it, can we? You misread something, obviously. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : LOL! Like it's not hard to search through an email database for keywords that would find emails that expose malfeasance. On 10/31/2016 01:11 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: No, Weiner wasn't sending emails via Clinton's server. 650,000 emails over 10 years would be about 178 per day. We don't know how many of those were his and how many were hers, or how many were sent and how many received. But Weiner was a congressman, and then ran for mayor of NYC, so it's to be expected that a lot of emails would go through his account every day. And we have no idea whether any of them were sexts. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : So, you don't know how Huma's emails got on Anthony's laptop. Someone as devious as Weiner, he's probably made backups on an external drive and mailed them to Wikileaks already. We will probably find out when Comey makes the FBI transcript of the Weiner interview public after the investigation is completed. Until then, all we know is that a perv was sending and receiving emails on the Clinton home-brew server. According to what I've read, it's a trove. It's not likely that Weiner made 650,000 emails himself - you'd have to be generating thousands of sexting messages every day for a decade! , right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@... wrote : As you know, Abedin has been explicit that she didn't know the emails were on Weiner's laptop and has no idea how they got there, so obviously she wouldn't know which emails they were. (BTW, it's Weiner, not "Wiener.") It's not clear at this point how many, if any, of the emails on Weiner's laptop came from Clinton's server. Newspapers have been reporting that several thousand did, but we don't know anything for sure at this point. Highly unlikely that all 650,000 did. It appears that this count included Weiner's own emails, not just Abedin's, going back quite a few years. Also *very* highly unlikely anybody is going to do any jail time in connection with Clinton's server. As you know, Comey has been quite clear that the FBI found no indications of any intent to withhold those emails. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Huma Abedin told the FBI that she gave all her emails and devices to the FBI, so the emails on Wiener's computer are probably duplicates of mail she sent to Hillary's home-brew server. The question is, why didn't she tell the FBI that there were 650,000 emails on Wiener's laptop? If there are any emails that contain State Dept. confidential or top secret information, both Abedin and Anthony may do some jail time, right? I would like to be there when Donald Trump says: "You're fired!" Obviously it's a conspiracy to withhold information in an FBI investigation. I'm telling you, it's a Potemkin village all the way down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@... wrote : The DNC doesn't have the emails; Clinton doesn't have the emails; her campaign doesn't have the emails; Abedin doesn't have the emails. The FBI has the emails. They're the only ones who can release the emails. So as you know, what you're suggesting makes no sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The DNC attack on Comey smacks of desperation. If the emails are important, why not just release them - why do they have to come from the FBI? In order to be transparent, you've got to be transparent, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mika Brazinski on Comey
Also the chairman of the House "Freedom Caucus" (the very conservative Republican caucus), Rep. Jim Jordan: House Freedom Caucus Chair Says Comey Letter 'Probably Not' Appropriate http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-jordan-criticizes-comey-letter-clinton http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-jordan-criticizes-comey-letter-clinton House Freedom Caucus Chair Says Comey Letter 'Probab... http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-jordan-criticizes-comey-letter-clinton The chairman of the far-right House Freedom Caucus said Monday that FBI Director James Comey was probably wrong to announce the discovery of ne... View on talkingpointsmemo.com http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-jordan-criticizes-comey-letter-clinton Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : You forgot to mention that all kinds of Republicans have also been calling Comey out, including more than 30 former state attorneys general, both Republican and Democratic: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/james-comey-criticism-state-attorneys-general-230536 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/james-comey-criticism-state-attorneys-general-230536 Also former Bush attorney general Alberto Gonzalez: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/alberto-gonzalez-clinton-email-fbi-230535 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/alberto-gonzalez-clinton-email-fbi-230535 And former Bush attorney general Michael Mukasey: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/michael-mukasey-james-comey-clinton-email-230521 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/michael-mukasey-james-comey-clinton-email-230521 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE Brzezinski calls out Democrats for hypocrisy over Comey, Scarborough mocks ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
No, Weiner wasn't sending emails via Clinton's server. 650,000 emails over 10 years would be about 178 per day. We don't know how many of those were his and how many were hers, or how many were sent and how many received. But Weiner was a congressman, and then ran for mayor of NYC, so it's to be expected that a lot of emails would go through his account every day. And we have no idea whether any of them were sexts. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : So, you don't know how Huma's emails got on Anthony's laptop. Someone as devious as Weiner, he's probably made backups on an external drive and mailed them to Wikileaks already. We will probably find out when Comey makes the FBI transcript of the Weiner interview public after the investigation is completed. Until then, all we know is that a perv was sending and receiving emails on the Clinton home-brew server. According to what I've read, it's a trove. It's not likely that Weiner made 650,000 emails himself - you'd have to be generating thousands of sexting messages every day for a decade, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As you know, Abedin has been explicit that she didn't know the emails were on Weiner's laptop and has no idea how they got there, so obviously she wouldn't know which emails they were. (BTW, it's Weiner, not "Wiener.") It's not clear at this point how many, if any, of the emails on Weiner's laptop came from Clinton's server. Newspapers have been reporting that several thousand did, but we don't know anything for sure at this point. Highly unlikely that all 650,000 did. It appears that this count included Weiner's own emails, not just Abedin's, going back quite a few years. Also *very* highly unlikely anybody is going to do any jail time in connection with Clinton's server. As you know, Comey has been quite clear that the FBI found no indications of any intent to withhold those emails. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Huma Abedin told the FBI that she gave all her emails and devices to the FBI, so the emails on Wiener's computer are probably duplicates of mail she sent to Hillary's home-brew server. The question is, why didn't she tell the FBI that there were 650,000 emails on Wiener's laptop? If there are any emails that contain State Dept. confidential or top secret information, both Abedin and Anthony may do some jail time, right? I would like to be there when Donald Trump says: "You're fired!" Obviously it's a conspiracy to withhold information in an FBI investigation. I'm telling you, it's a Potemkin village all the way down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The DNC doesn't have the emails; Clinton doesn't have the emails; her campaign doesn't have the emails; Abedin doesn't have the emails. The FBI has the emails. They're the only ones who can release the emails. So as you know, what you're suggesting makes no sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The DNC attack on Comey smacks of desperation. If the emails are important, why not just release them - why do they have to come from the FBI? In order to be transparent, you've got to be transparent, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
As you know--according to what you've read--two devices were destroyed, those of Clinton aide Cheryl Mills and former aide Heather Samuelson. We don't know whether records of their destruction were maintained; most likely they were, since their destruction, as you know, was part of an immunity deal negotiated by the lawyer for the two aides. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : According to what I've read, some of the digital devices used by Clinton, Abaden and thier staff were destroyed using hammers. How many, nobody seems to know. Maybe they just took the phones and iPads out back to the alley at night and smashed them. Apparently no records of their destruction were maintained. They are just missing. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As has been pointed out to you, the FBI has not destroyed the Abedin/Weiner devices. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : https://youtu.be/pD2xBXm4y70 https://youtu.be/pD2xBXm4y70 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secret Iran Ransom
As you know, she didn't "plead the Fifth." That's a very misleading headline. http://www.snopes.com/loretta-lynch-pleads-fifth-over-iran-payment/ http://www.snopes.com/loretta-lynch-pleads-fifth-over-iran-payment/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : "Congressional sources have told the Free Beacon that this is another part of the effort to hide details about these secret negotiations with Iran from the American public." Congress: Attorney General Lynch ‘Pleads Fifth’ on Secret Iran ‘Ransom’ Payments http://freebeacon.com/national-security/attorney-general-lynch-pleads-fifth-secret-iran-ransom-payments/ http://freebeacon.com/national-security/attorney-general-lynch-pleads-fifth-secret-iran-ransom-payments/ Congress: Attorney GeneralLynch ‘Pleads Fifth’ ... http://freebeacon.com/national-security/attorney-general-lynch-pleads-fifth-secret-iran-ransom-payments/ Attorney General Loretta Lynch is declining to comply with an investigation by leading members of Congress about the Obama administration's secret effort... View on freebeacon.com http://freebeacon.com/national-security/attorney-general-lynch-pleads-fifth-secret-iran-ransom-payments/ Preview by Yahoo http://eheadlines.com/ag-loretta-lynch-pleads-the-fifth/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
So there is no one central computer for the entire country, just as I said. You could have made that clear in your initial post, and explained briefly what she was talking about, whatever it was. Instead, you referred misleadingly to "the key for the central computer that tabulates the votes which allows it to...control the results," implying that there was only one such computer that tabulated all the votes cast. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Listen to the interview. Or watch as it should be up later today on YouTube. I'll post the link later. I didn't say for the whole country did I? Stop making things up. Bev Harris is a serious investigator of election rigging especially using voting machines. http://blackboxvoting.org/ http://blackboxvoting.org/ The first video explains what I've said was discussed in the interview. HBO documentary on her organization. http://www.hackingdemocracy.com/ http://www.hackingdemocracy.com/ On 10/31/2016 12:05 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, there is no "central computer" that tabulates all the votes across the country. There are only state systems (many different types). Common sense should tell you that. The popular vote doesn't decide the election, the electoral vote system, state by state, does. If this lady is telling you otherwise, she's full of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Listen to the interview. It's not just one state. On 10/31/2016 11:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The central computer for which state? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Bev Harris of Black Box Voting (up in your area) was interviewed in the second hour this morning on Infowars.com. She had some interesting things to say including that a developer found the key for the central computer that tabulates the votes which allows it to cap votes and control the results. Check it out. On 10/31/2016 11:16 AM, ultrarishi wrote: It's amazing how much the Internet has become part of this election cycle. The biggest take away from this is how ill prepared and ignorant the key players in this cluster fuck have been. Trump is obviously oblivious to the "cyber" world is knows jack shit. Hillary on the one hand benefits from leaks while at the same time condemning Snowden in the past and Assange and Wikileaks presently. She, Podesta, Wasserman-Shultz and DNC all need to spend a weekend workshop in how to use Lastpass, VPN's and not use gmail, for God's Sake. I held my nose and voted for Hillary since she's pretending to be Bernie-Lite. Of the 2 candidates she is the least offensive, but my hopes for real change are pretty darn low. She doesn't listen. Every day I fight with my family and friends about internet security while the marvel at all the new IoT devices and phone apps that are grooming them for a big rip off. It must be doubly hard to do this politicians and their big egos and arrogance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
Bhairitu, there is no "central computer" that tabulates all the votes across the country. There are only state systems (many different types). Common sense should tell you that. The popular vote doesn't decide the election, the electoral vote system, state by state, does. If this lady is telling you otherwise, she's full of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Listen to the interview. It's not just one state. On 10/31/2016 11:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The central computer for which state? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Bev Harris of Black Box Voting (up in your area) was interviewed in the second hour this morning on Infowars.com. She had some interesting things to say including that a developer found the key for the central computer that tabulates the votes which allows it to cap votes and control the results. Check it out. On 10/31/2016 11:16 AM, ultrarishi wrote: It's amazing how much the Internet has become part of this election cycle. The biggest take away from this is how ill prepared and ignorant the key players in this cluster fuck have been. Trump is obviously oblivious to the "cyber" world is knows jack shit. Hillary on the one hand benefits from leaks while at the same time condemning Snowden in the past and Assange and Wikileaks presently. She, Podesta, Wasserman-Shultz and DNC all need to spend a weekend workshop in how to use Lastpass, VPN's and not use gmail, for God's Sake. I held my nose and voted for Hillary since she's pretending to be Bernie-Lite. Of the 2 candidates she is the least offensive, but my hopes for real change are pretty darn low. She doesn't listen. Every day I fight with my family and friends about internet security while the marvel at all the new IoT devices and phone apps that are grooming them for a big rip off. It must be doubly hard to do this politicians and their big egos and arrogance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
The central computer for which state? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Bev Harris of Black Box Voting (up in your area) was interviewed in the second hour this morning on Infowars.com. She had some interesting things to say including that a developer found the key for the central computer that tabulates the votes which allows it to cap votes and control the results. Check it out. On 10/31/2016 11:16 AM, ultrarishi wrote: It's amazing how much the Internet has become part of this election cycle. The biggest take away from this is how ill prepared and ignorant the key players in this cluster fuck have been. Trump is obviously oblivious to the "cyber" world is knows jack shit. Hillary on the one hand benefits from leaks while at the same time condemning Snowden in the past and Assange and Wikileaks presently. She, Podesta, Wasserman-Shultz and DNC all need to spend a weekend workshop in how to use Lastpass, VPN's and not use gmail, for God's Sake. I held my nose and voted for Hillary since she's pretending to be Bernie-Lite. Of the 2 candidates she is the least offensive, but my hopes for real change are pretty darn low. She doesn't listen. Every day I fight with my family and friends about internet security while the marvel at all the new IoT devices and phone apps that are grooming them for a big rip off. It must be doubly hard to do this politicians and their big egos and arrogance.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
Interestingly, this video clip does not include Comey's response to Gowdy. Somehow I don't think Comey felt that he'd been "destroyed." (Remember, Gowdy is the chap who became almost hysterical over Clinton's IT team using BleachBit--a free, open-source app used by many home computer users to clean up their hard disks--to delete Clinton's old personal emails. Gowdy's frenzied claims are what inspired Trump to denounce Clinton for "acid-washing" her emails.) As I've said before, nobody who hasn't read and absorbed this Politico account of the FBI's notes and reports on Clinton's email server is qualified to comment on the situation: What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email Server http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email... http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 New documents tell the full, strange story of a technophobic VIP, a sloppy State Department, and the jerry-rigged computer that held it all together. View on www.politico.com http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 Preview by Yahoo It's a complicated story; but the more you know about it, the less it looks like anything even remotely criminal. It's easy, though, to make it *sound* criminal when the details are omitted and facts are twisted, ignorantly or (as with Gowdy) otherwise. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : As you know, Comey has been quite clear that the FBI found no indications of any intent to withhold those emails.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHgOn5KJI4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHgOn5KJI4 ►Trey Gowdy Destroys FBI’s James Comey over Hillary Clinton’s ‘Intent’ #HillaryClinton#DonaldTrump# https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHgOn5KJI4 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey As you know, Abedin has been explicit that she didn't know the emails were on Weiner's laptop and has no idea how they got there, so obviously she wouldn't know which emails they were. (BTW, it's Weiner, not "Wiener.") It's not clear at this point how many, if any, of the emails on Weiner's laptop came from Clinton's server. Newspapers have been reporting that several thousand did, but we don't know anything for sure at this point. Highly unlikely that all 650,000 did. It appears that this count included Weiner's own emails, not just Abedin's, going back quite a few years. Also *very* highly unlikely anybody is going to do any jail time in connection with Clinton's server. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Huma Abedin told the FBI that she gave all her emails and devices to the FBI, so the emails on Wiener's computer are probably duplicates of mail she sent to Hillary's home-brew server. The question is, why didn't she tell the FBI that there were 650,000 emails on Wiener's laptop? If there are any emails that contain State Dept. confidential or top secret information, both Abedin and Anthony may do some jail time, right? I would like to be there when Donald Trump says: "You're fired!" Obviously it's a conspiracy to withhold information in an FBI investigation. I'm telling you, it's a Potemkin village all the way down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The DNC doesn't have the emails; Clinton doesn't have the emails; her campaign doesn't have the emails; Abedin doesn't have the emails. The FBI has the emails. They're the only ones who can release the emails. So as you know, what you're suggesting makes no sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The DNC attack on Comey smacks of desperation. If the emails are important, why not just release them - why do they have to come from the FBI? In order to be transparent, you've got to be transparent, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mika Brazinski on Comey
You forgot to mention that all kinds of Republicans have also been calling Comey out, including more than 30 former state attorneys general, both Republican and Democratic: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/james-comey-criticism-state-attorneys-general-230536 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/james-comey-criticism-state-attorneys-general-230536 Also former Bush attorney general Alberto Gonzalez: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/alberto-gonzalez-clinton-email-fbi-230535 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/alberto-gonzalez-clinton-email-fbi-230535 And former Bush attorney general Michael Mukasey: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/michael-mukasey-james-comey-clinton-email-230521 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/michael-mukasey-james-comey-clinton-email-230521 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE Brzezinski calls out Democrats for hypocrisy over Comey, Scarborough mocks ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXoOICsbLCE
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
As has been pointed out to you, the FBI has not destroyed the Abedin/Weiner devices. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : https://youtu.be/pD2xBXm4y70 https://youtu.be/pD2xBXm4y70 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
As you know, Abedin has been explicit that she didn't know the emails were on Weiner's laptop and has no idea how they got there, so obviously she wouldn't know which emails they were. (BTW, it's Weiner, not "Wiener.") It's not clear at this point how many, if any, of the emails on Weiner's laptop came from Clinton's server. Newspapers have been reporting that several thousand did, but we don't know anything for sure at this point. Highly unlikely that all 650,000 did. It appears that this count included Weiner's own emails, not just Abedin's, going back quite a few years. Also *very* highly unlikely anybody is going to do any jail time in connection with Clinton's server. As you know, Comey has been quite clear that the FBI found no indications of any intent to withhold those emails. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Huma Abedin told the FBI that she gave all her emails and devices to the FBI, so the emails on Wiener's computer are probably duplicates of mail she sent to Hillary's home-brew server. The question is, why didn't she tell the FBI that there were 650,000 emails on Wiener's laptop? If there are any emails that contain State Dept. confidential or top secret information, both Abedin and Anthony may do some jail time, right? I would like to be there when Donald Trump says: "You're fired!" Obviously it's a conspiracy to withhold information in an FBI investigation. I'm telling you, it's a Potemkin village all the way down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The DNC doesn't have the emails; Clinton doesn't have the emails; her campaign doesn't have the emails; Abedin doesn't have the emails. The FBI has the emails. They're the only ones who can release the emails. So as you know, what you're suggesting makes no sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The DNC attack on Comey smacks of desperation. If the emails are important, why not just release them - why do they have to come from the FBI? In order to be transparent, you've got to be transparent, right?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
Oh, forgot to add: Note to Doug, per your recent diktat: I'm making this post because I believe attempts to mislead and deceive, such as in the post I'm responding to, are spiritually harmful, not just to the people who read them but also to the person who posts them. We would all be much better off spiritually if we refrained from making such attempts and instead did our best to stick to the truth. (Doug will soon delete this post, as he has deleted several others of my recent posts that, for the reasons stated above, corrected false and/or misleading information.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : The DNC doesn't have the emails; Clinton doesn't have the emails; her campaign doesn't have the emails; Abedin doesn't have the emails. The FBI has the emails. They're the only ones who can release the emails. So as you know, what you're suggesting makes no sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The DNC attack on Comey smacks of desperation. If the emails are important, why not just release them - why do they have to come from the FBI? In order to be transparent, you've got to be transparent, right?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
The DNC doesn't have the emails; Clinton doesn't have the emails; her campaign doesn't have the emails; Abedin doesn't have the emails. The FBI has the emails. They're the only ones who can release the emails. So as you know, what you're suggesting makes no sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : The DNC attack on Comey smacks of desperation. If the emails are important, why not just release them - why do they have to come from the FBI? In order to be transparent, you've got to be transparent, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
As I said in another post: Nobody here who hasn't carefully read this Politico story (long and detailed) about the FBI interview notes and reports on its investigation into Clinton's server is qualified to comment on the Clinton email situation: What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email Server http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email... http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 New documents tell the full, strange story of a technophobic VIP, a sloppy State Department, and the jerry-rigged computer that held it all together. View on www.politico.com http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 Preview by Yahoo (Note to Doug, per your recent diktat: I'm making this post because I believe attempts to mislead and deceive, such as in the post I'm responding to, are spiritually harmful, not just to the people who read them but also to the person who posts them. We would all be much better off spiritually if we refrained from making such attempts and instead did our best to stick to the truth.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : No, I cannot explain how anyone would think they could get away with deleting 33,000 emails and then wiping their hard drive clean and using hammers to destroy phones - WITH THE FBI BREATHING DOWN YOUR NECK. I can't explain how anyone could be so dumb as to think they could get away with something like that, when everyone knows you're not supposed to destroy any evidence in a federal investigation that now includes a sexting scandal. Can you explain it to me? Thanks. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And how do you explain the ACID-WASHED emails? Someone, according to trump, acid-washed each one, then after they dried, destroyed them. His understanding of tech is...unusual. Not only is he morally bankrupt, but a blithering idiot on just about any topic, and yet, according to his followers, he is the messiah. The one who cannot successfully tie his shoelaces, will lead them to the promised land. Seriously? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, BleachBit was used on one device and a hammer on several others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. And now that you've done so, indeed we find that it wasn't Abedin's and Weiner's devices that were destroyed, contrary to what you implied. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : All you have is what you've read, since you weren't there at the time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : P.S.: "According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And your sources for this claim are what, now? I think you're either making this up, or you misunderstood something you read. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, the FBI has destroyed some devices used in the Hillary Clinton email scandal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes. The FBI didn't destroy the devices or the evidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
As you know, the sentence in red is the only one that's factual in the paragraph from your post below. The others are either nonfactual or misleading. (Note to Doug, per your recent diktat: I'm making this post because I believe attempts to mislead and deceive, such as in the post I'm responding to, are spiritually harmful, not just to the people who read them but also to the person who posts them. We would all be much better off spiritually if we refrained from making such attempts and instead did our best to stick to the truth.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : So, Hillary used a cloth to wipe her home-brew mail server; her staff used BlechBit on her HD; the FBI destroyed two laptops, after giving immunity; and the DNC staffers used hammers to destroy dozens of phones - but you're thinking that none of the phones or servers or laptops had any of Huma's email on them? Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As you know, this wasn't done by the FBI, nor was it done to Abedin's and Weiner's devices... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, BleachBit was used on one device and a hammer on several others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. And now that you've done so, indeed we find that it wasn't Abedin's and Weiner's devices that were destroyed, contrary to what you implied. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : All you have is what you've read, since you weren't there at the time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : P.S.: "According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And your sources for this claim are what, now? I think you're either making this up, or you misunderstood something you read. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, the FBI has destroyed some devices used in the Hillary Clinton email scandal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes. The FBI didn't destroy the devices or the evidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
As you know, this wasn't done by the FBI, nor was it done to Abedin's and Weiner's devices, so it's a complete non sequitur. (Note to Doug, per your recent diktat: I'm making this post because I believe attempts to mislead and deceive, such as in the post I'm responding to, are spiritually harmful, not just to the people who read them but also to the person who posts them. We would all be much better off spiritually if we refrained from making such attempts and instead did our best to stick to the truth.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : According to what I've read, BleachBit was used on one device and a hammer on several others. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. And now that you've done so, indeed we find that it wasn't Abedin's and Weiner's devices that were destroyed, contrary to what you implied. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : All you have is what you've read, since you weren't there at the time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : P.S.: "According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And your sources for this claim are what, now? I think you're either making this up, or you misunderstood something you read. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, the FBI has destroyed some devices used in the Hillary Clinton email scandal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes. The FBI didn't destroy the devices or the evidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 17-Oct-16 00:15:07 UTC
Anyone who wants to discuss politics free of the requirement to draw spurious connections to spirituality, come on over to FFL2. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Notice of an Embargo, something of a road closure.. We are upon 9 days now to the US election. It is certainly time with all that is spiritual going on otherwise to reel this place back in some and put an embargo on mundane political bickering that has become exclusive of any spiritual commentary. This is expected of us as a topical (spiritual) Yahoo-group and certainly there are lots of other places for mundane partisan bickering on the internet. Notice and Fair Warning: Until the election day in the USA passes a heavy hand of moderation is going to fall over mundane political postings that come on to FFL as an embargo. There are any number of capable writers posting to FFL. Those who have spiritual observation to offer can easily continue to offer their considerations on FairfieldLife, a Yahoo-group community. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/15/16 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/22/16 00:00:00 109 messages as of (UTC) 10/16/16 23:12:36 26 authfriend 22 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 13 emily.mae50 11 awoelflebater 10 Bhairitu noozguru 5 jr_esq 5 hepa7 4 feste37 4 dhamiltony2k5 3 olliesedwuz 2 Sal Sunshine salsunshineiniowa 1 j_alexander_stanley 1 email4you mikemail4you 1 Dick Mays dickmays 1 Archer Angel archonangel Posters: 15 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : She may win the election, but probably not by a landslide, as you claim. The question is, how long will she be in office before she gets an indictment. Others have been prosecuted and found guilty of much less. This (in red) is incorrect, as you know. James Comey was very clear on that in his July press conference about the investigation. Laws are for the little people, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sure. HRC will win the election in a landslide in a little over a week. The rest is noise. You're welcome. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
"What connection Huma had to Wiener and his sexting"--she's his wife, or was; she's divorcing him because of the sexting. No "corruption" has been found with regard to Clinton's emails. Technical incompetence, yes, but that hasn't been only among "DNC staffers." It was throughout the State Department and has been for some time, since well before Clinton became secretary of state. Nobody here who hasn't carefully read this Politico story (long and detailed) about the FBI interview notes and reports on its investigation into Clinton's server is qualified to comment on the Clinton email situation: What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email Server http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 What the FBI Files Reveal About Hillary Clinton’s Email... http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 New documents tell the full, strange story of a technophobic VIP, a sloppy State Department, and the jerry-rigged computer that held it all together. View on www.politico.com http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-2016-server-state-department-fbi-214307 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Former Secretary of State’s Top IT Official Pleads 5th Amendment More Than 90 Times http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/former-secretary-states-top-it-official-pleads-5th-amendment-more-90 http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/former-secretary-states-top-it-official-pleads-5th-amendment-more-90 Former Secretary of State’s Top IT Official Pleads 5th A... http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/former-secretary-states-top-it-official-pleads-5th-amendment-more-90 (CNSNews.com) – The former top IT official to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, pleaded the 5th Amendment against self-incrimination – 90 times -- in... View on www.cnsnews.com http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/former-secretary-states-top-it-official-pleads-5th-amendment-more-90 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It's all about sexting, scandals, corruption, and emails, not to mention incompetence. So, what we need to know now is what connection Huma had to Wiener and his sexting. And, why exactly were they sharing devices? Obviously, there is a lot of ignorance about IT and mail servers among the DNC party staffers. They don't seem to understand even the basics of secure online communications and record-keeping. All of their mail has been apparently hacked. We are in the best of hands! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
Re: [FairfieldLife] Check-out Drudge Report now.
One big reason why I said the "news dump" meme doesn't apply to the Comey email story: The strange turn in the race found vivid expression on the Sunday news programs, where surrogates for Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump abandoned their usual messages and battled instead over Mr. Comey’s conduct and his personal credibility — with only scant insight into the substance behind his announcement. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/31/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-james-comey.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/31/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-james-comey.html Comey knew this would be such a big story that the usual Friday "news dump" notion that nobody would be paying attention wouldn't apply, so his priority was to get it out as soon as possible to inflict maximum damage on the Clinton campaign. There are currently four reports on the Comey email story, including the lead article, on the NYTimes.com front page. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Bhairitu, you should avoid using the word "obviously" when you really don't know what you're talking about. In this case, you're stuck in standard patterns and unable to adjust your perspective to get a handle on novel situations. Yes, of course I know about news dumps taking place on Friday in the hope that they'll attract less attention from the media and the public. This was an exception in two ways, as I explained and you ignored. Comey wanted to get the information out ASAP (it was leaked, but he knew it would be leaked immediately after he sent the letter to the GOP leaders). He couldn't have done it sooner than Friday because he himself only got the information on Thursday. He didn't want to do it later because he wanted it out in time for the Sunday talk shows. Had nothing to do with a traditional Friday news dump. You didn't know about Comey getting the information himself only the day before because you didn't bother to pay attention to the details; you were more interested in sounding knowledgeable and being able to tell readers something you (mistakenly) assumed they didn't know. The second way it was an exception is that even when released on a Friday, a piece of really sensational news will get massive attention from the media, as this did. The media had been thirsting for an "October surprise" that would turn the election back into a horse race, and this beautifully filled the bill. They didn't care that it was a Friday; they went all-out. And you can see from the flood of comments from officials and political figures that they picked up on it right away, Friday or no Friday. Actually, there's a third reason this was an exception: This close to an election, folks are paying much closer attention to the news no matter when it comes out. And this will still be hot when Monday comes around, so it won't be neglected at the water cooler. Comey's not a fool. He was well aware of what would happen, and he knew the fact that it was Friday wouldn't make enough difference to matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 10/29/2016 01:17 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : (snip) Of course it didn't miss my attention that the new Comey stuff came out yesterday, a Friday. Always known that when bad news is to be released do it on a Friday as the "great unwashed" won't be paying attention. Actually, any of the "great unwashed" who watched television, listened to the radio, or read a newspaper or a Web site on Friday would have found out about Comey's ratf**k, because it made headlines everywhere. And if Bhairitu had been paying attention, he'd know that Comey didn't find out about the emails until he was briefed on Thursday--hence the announcement the very next day. Comey wanted to get the news out as soon as possible so it would have the maximum negative effect on Clinton's campaign--including, of course, dominating all the Sunday talk shows ("Meet the Press," etc.). Obviously Judy doesn't know that political analysts and journalists will tell you that news released on Friday doesn't get discussed like it does earlier in the week. That's why news that might stir controversy is often released on Friday. And no, Judy, the public doesn't always tune into the news on Friday like they do earlier in the week. Nor will they have a chance for a water cooler discussion. Try living on earth for a change.
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
"According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. And now that you've done so, indeed we find that it wasn't Abedin's and Weiner's devices that were destroyed, contrary to what you implied. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : All you have is what you've read, since you weren't there at the time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : P.S.: "According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And your sources for this claim are what, now? I think you're either making this up, or you misunderstood something you read. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, the FBI has destroyed some devices used in the Hillary Clinton email scandal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes. The FBI didn't destroy the devices or the evidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
But not the devices of Huma Abedin and Anthony Weiner, contrary to what you implied. Thank you for correcting yourself. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : "...the destruction of the laptops is particularly troubling as it means that the computers could not be used as evidence in future legal proceedings, should new information or circumstances arise." FBI agreed to destroy laptops of Clinton aides with immunity deal, lawmaker says http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/fbi-agreed-to-destroy-immunized-clinton-aides-laptops-sources-say.html http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/fbi-agreed-to-destroy-immunized-clinton-aides-laptops-sources-say.html FBI agreed to destroy laptops of Clinton aides with immu... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/fbi-agreed-to-destroy-immunized-clinton-aides-laptops-sources-say.html Immunity deals for two top Hillary Clinton aides included a side arrangement obliging the FBI to destroy their laptops after reviewing the devices, House Judic... View on www.foxnews.com http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/fbi-agreed-to-destroy-immunized-clinton-aides-laptops-sources-say.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And your sources for this claim are what, now? I think you're either making this up, or you misunderstood something you read. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, the FBI has destroyed some devices used in the Hillary Clinton email scandal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes. The FBI didn't destroy the devices or the evidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
P.S.: "According to what I've read" is not sufficient to establish the truth of a claim. (Especially one of your claims.) You need to provide citations to your sources. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : And your sources for this claim are what, now? I think you're either making this up, or you misunderstood something you read. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : According to what I've read, the FBI has destroyed some devices used in the Hillary Clinton email scandal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes. The FBI didn't destroy the devices or the evidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
And your sources for this claim are what, now? I think you're either making this up, or you misunderstood something you read. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : According to what I've read, the FBI has destroyed some devices used in the Hillary Clinton email scandal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes. The FBI didn't destroy the devices or the evidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: On the More Serious Side - Comey
Yes. The FBI didn't destroy the devices or the evidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : The question is, why were the devices killed by the FBI. Obviously nobody can get any data from a computer that has been wrecked. Apparently the FBI has made a very grave mistake and now the evidence has been destroyed. Can anyone figure this out? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ... why exactly were they sharing devices? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/james-comey-broke-with-loretta-lynch-and-justice-department-tradition
[FairfieldLife] Re: Check-out Drudge Report now.
Yes, that's what Bhairitu and I were discussing. My point was that the new-emails story was not your traditional news dump, for several reasons that I explained to Bhairitu at some length. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Releasing a political story on a Friday is known as a news dump. Sorking wrote an episode of the West Wing about how this was a strategy to hide big stories by releasing them at a time when folks are concerned with movies and ball games or that it gets buried in a deluge of many stories. Take Out the Trash Day http://westwing.wikia.com/wiki/Take_Out_the_Trash_Day http://westwing.wikia.com/wiki/Take_Out_the_Trash_Day Take Out the Trash Day http://westwing.wikia.com/wiki/Take_Out_the_Trash_Day "Previously on the West Wing" spoken by Sam "Take out the Trash Day" is the thirteenth episode of the first season of the West Wing. View on westwing.wikia.com http://westwing.wikia.com/wiki/Take_Out_the_Trash_Day Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Check-out Drudge Report now.
Translation: "How embarrassing that an 'amateur' analysis shows how far off I was, despite all those professional political pundits I read and listen to..." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : You sure waste a lot of time on this. Don't you have anything better to do in your life? I read and listen to many professional political pundits during the week so I don't need to read any amateur stuff. On 10/29/2016 04:54 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu, you should avoid using the word "obviously" when you really don't know what you're talking about. In this case, you're stuck in standard patterns and unable to adjust your perspective to get a handle on novel situations. Yes, of course I know about news dumps taking place on Friday in the hope that they'll attract less attention from the media and the public. This was an exception in two ways, as I explained and you ignored. Comey wanted to get the information out ASAP (it was leaked, but he knew it would be leaked immediately after he sent the letter to the GOP leaders). He couldn't have done it sooner than Friday because he himself only got the information on Thursday. He didn't want to do it later because he wanted it out in time for the Sunday talk shows. Had nothing to do with a traditional Friday news dump. You didn't know about Comey getting the information himself only the day before because you didn't bother to pay attention to the details; you were more interested in sounding knowledgeable and being able to tell readers something you (mistakenly) assumed they didn't know. The second way it was an exception is that even when released on a Friday, a piece of really sensational news will get massive attention from the media, as this did. The media had been thirsting for an "October surprise" that would turn the election back int! o a horse race, and this beautifully filled the bill. They didn't care that it was a Friday; they went all-out. And you can see from the flood of comments from officials and political figures that they picked up on it right away, Friday or no Friday. Actually, there's a third reason this was an exception: This close to an election, folks are paying much closer attention to the news no matter when it comes out. And this will still be hot when Monday comes around, so it won't be neglected at the water cooler. Comey's not a fool. He was well aware of what would happen, and he knew the fact that it was Friday wouldn't make enough difference to matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 10/29/2016 01:17 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : (snip) Of course it didn't miss my attention that the new Comey stuff came out yesterday, a Friday. Always known that when bad news is to be released do it on a Friday as the "great unwashed" won't be paying attention. Actually, any of the "great unwashed" who watched television, listened to the radio, or read a newspaper or a Web site on Friday would have found out about Comey's ratf**k, because it made headlines everywhere. And if Bhairitu had been paying attention, he'd know that Comey didn't find out about the emails until he was briefed on Thursday--hence the announcement the very next day. Comey wanted to get the news out as soon as possible so it would have the maximum negative effect on Clinton's campaign--including, of course, dominating all the Sunday talk shows ("Meet the Press," etc.). Obviously Judy doesn't know that political analysts and journalists will tell you that news released on Friday doesn't get discussed like it does earlier in the week. That's why news that might stir controversy is often released on Friday. And no, Judy, the public doesn't always tune into the news on Friday like they do earlier in the week. Nor will they have a chance for a water cooler discussion. Try living on earth for a change.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Check-out Drudge Report now.
Bhairitu, you should avoid using the word "obviously" when you really don't know what you're talking about. In this case, you're stuck in standard patterns and unable to adjust your perspective to get a handle on novel situations. Yes, of course I know about news dumps taking place on Friday in the hope that they'll attract less attention from the media and the public. This was an exception in two ways, as I explained and you ignored. Comey wanted to get the information out ASAP (it was leaked, but he knew it would be leaked immediately after he sent the letter to the GOP leaders). He couldn't have done it sooner than Friday because he himself only got the information on Thursday. He didn't want to do it later because he wanted it out in time for the Sunday talk shows. Had nothing to do with a traditional Friday news dump. You didn't know about Comey getting the information himself only the day before because you didn't bother to pay attention to the details; you were more interested in sounding knowledgeable and being able to tell readers something you (mistakenly) assumed they didn't know. The second way it was an exception is that even when released on a Friday, a piece of really sensational news will get massive attention from the media, as this did. The media had been thirsting for an "October surprise" that would turn the election back into a horse race, and this beautifully filled the bill. They didn't care that it was a Friday; they went all-out. And you can see from the flood of comments from officials and political figures that they picked up on it right away, Friday or no Friday. Actually, there's a third reason this was an exception: This close to an election, folks are paying much closer attention to the news no matter when it comes out. And this will still be hot when Monday comes around, so it won't be neglected at the water cooler. Comey's not a fool. He was well aware of what would happen, and he knew the fact that it was Friday wouldn't make enough difference to matter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : On 10/29/2016 01:17 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : (snip) Of course it didn't miss my attention that the new Comey stuff came out yesterday, a Friday. Always known that when bad news is to be released do it on a Friday as the "great unwashed" won't be paying attention. Actually, any of the "great unwashed" who watched television, listened to the radio, or read a newspaper or a Web site on Friday would have found out about Comey's ratf**k, because it made headlines everywhere. And if Bhairitu had been paying attention, he'd know that Comey didn't find out about the emails until he was briefed on Thursday--hence the announcement the very next day. Comey wanted to get the news out as soon as possible so it would have the maximum negative effect on Clinton's campaign--including, of course, dominating all the Sunday talk shows ("Meet the Press," etc.). Obviously Judy doesn't know that political analysts and journalists will tell you that news released on Friday doesn't get discussed like it does earlier in the week. That's why news that might stir controversy is often released on Friday. And no, Judy, the public doesn't always tune into the news on Friday like they do earlier in the week. Nor will they have a chance for a water cooler discussion. Try living on earth for a change.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Check-out Drudge Report now.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : (snip) Of course it didn't miss my attention that the new Comey stuff came out yesterday, a Friday. Always known that when bad news is to be released do it on a Friday as the "great unwashed" won't be paying attention. Actually, any of the "great unwashed" who watched television, listened to the radio, or read a newspaper or a Web site on Friday would have found out about Comey's ratf**k, because it made headlines everywhere. And if Bhairitu had been paying attention, he'd know that Comey didn't find out about the emails until he was briefed on Thursday--hence the announcement the very next day. Comey wanted to get the news out as soon as possible so it would have the maximum negative effect on Clinton's campaign--including, of course, dominating all the Sunday talk shows ("Meet the Press," etc.).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check-out Drudge Report now.
You ain't no competition, sweetie, believe me. (Unbelievable. He's still holding on to his "alt right" mistake. And pretending he hasn't been pushing the notion that Trump will win the election.) And yes, I've listened to/watched/read quite a bit of alternative media--more than enough to know most of it is crackpot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Remember, folks, Judy is the knowledgeable, objective political expert who wants you to look to her as your expert expert in political affairs. She doesn't like any competition here. On 10/29/2016 10:47 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Remember, folks, Bhairitu is the knowledgeable, objective political expert who insists *to this day*--in the face of hard, unimpeachable evidence to the contrary--that Clinton invented the term "alt right" and that it refers to "alternative media" rather than a fringe political movement. Wow! What a trivial thing to bring up. I would even suppose that if you dig around enough someone maybe in the 19th century might have used the term "alt right". The "alternative media" is the term used by the non-mainsteam media. Alt-Right sounds like a keyboard command. I bet you have not listened to one minute of the alternative media. You are probably afraid they will turn you into a turnip. Clearly, we should take his opinion about who will win the election with the utmost seriousness. My opinion was stated the other day in a post: "we will know on November 9th". Please try to keep up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : The stuff you're smoking will soon become legal in California. :-D Not that I'm any Trump fan. On 10/29/2016 07:17 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It is genuinely hard for me to believe that there are people out there who think trump is going to win. Astonishing. Pissing into the wind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Just to reiterate: The FBI doesn't yet know what's in the emails. They have to get a court order before they can read them. It's entirely possible that some or all of the emails are duplicates of those already in the FBI's possession from other sources. When the Clinton haters--Trump and his minions and Republicans like Ryan and Chaffetz--claim the FBI must have found sensational emails proving Clinton's guilt or they wouldn't have made this announcement so close to the election, they are not telling the truth. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote : as usual, it is a yawn - HRC says get it all out in the open. Why should she care? She doesn't hide her taxes, or suggest grabbing someone's genitals. Compared to that orange sex offender and tax cheat, she comes across like a saint. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Looks like the fit is hitting the shan! October surprise
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Check-out Drudge Report now.
Remember, folks, Bhairitu is the knowledgeable, objective political expert who insists *to this day*--in the face of hard, unimpeachable evidence to the contrary--that Clinton invented the term "alt right" and that it refers to "alternative media" rather than a fringe political movement. Clearly, we should take his opinion about who will win the election with the utmost seriousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : The stuff you're smoking will soon become legal in California. :-D Not that I'm any Trump fan. On 10/29/2016 07:17 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It is genuinely hard for me to believe that there are people out there who think trump is going to win. Astonishing. Pissing into the wind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Just to reiterate: The FBI doesn't yet know what's in the emails. They have to get a court order before they can read them. It's entirely possible that some or all of the emails are duplicates of those already in the FBI's possession from other sources. When the Clinton haters--Trump and his minions and Republicans like Ryan and Chaffetz--claim the FBI must have found sensational emails proving Clinton's guilt or they wouldn't have made this announcement so close to the election, they are not telling the truth. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote : as usual, it is a yawn - HRC says get it all out in the open. Why should she care? She doesn't hide her taxes, or suggest grabbing someone's genitals. Compared to that orange sex offender and tax cheat, she comes across like a saint. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Looks like the fit is hitting the shan! October surprise
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher
Again FWIW, Maher gets a couple of facts wrong. The Abedin and Weiner emails weren't "intermingled"; they were in separate accounts on the same laptop. (Abedin's emails were just a backup.) And as I just noted in another post, apparently none of them are Clinton's emails. Still funny...! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Perfect. I love this guy. So, during Friday’s edition of HBO’s Real Time, host Bill Maher http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/14/bill-maher-uncut-roger-ailes-absolutely-looks-like-a-pig-to-me.html gave his unique take on the latest development in Hillary’s Emailgate. “I think it is rather appropriate that this election is so close to Halloween, because what happens in every scary movie? You think you killed the monster—you killed him ten times—and then a tiny, orange hand comes out of the grave. Believe me: for Hillary, tonight was Nightmare on Email Street,” he quipped during his monologue. Maher then gave some background on how the hell Anthony Weiner (alias: Carlos Danger), a frequent panelist on his Real Time program, could be playing such a consequential role in this election. “Anthony Weiner is under investigation for sexting with a underage girl across state lines, so the FBI seized all his computers. He is married—or was married—to Huma Abedin, who is Hillary Clinton’s aide, and they were using the same computer,” said Maher. “Which begs my first question: Why is Huma using Anthony’s computer? If there’s one thing she didn’t want to go near, it would be his computer. So… Hillary’s emails are intermingled with Anthony Weiner’s sexting? No wonder she had her server wiped! I’d have had it boiled.” He continued: “This is the world we live in now: Hillary Clinton’s aide’s estranged husband is a freak, so we get to read Hillary Clinton’s emails. I wish Hillary would send a text to Donald Trump. Maybe then we would get to see his taxes.”
[FairfieldLife] Re: Check-out Drudge Report now.
FWIW, a correction to my last point below: According to a detailed story in Newsweek, an official has said the emails aren't *either* from *or* to Clinton. The Newsweek story is worth reading: The real reason the FBI is reviewing more of Hillary Clinton's Emails http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918 http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918 http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-comey-donald-trump-anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-514918 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Trump faction and all the Hillary-haters sure will try to make it sound like that. But it's almost certainly yet another nothingburger. A few facts not available on Drudge: --The FBI hasn't read the emails yet. They have to get a court order first. So they have no idea what's in them. --The investigation that was completed in July has not been "reopened." --The emails have nothing to do with Wikileaks or the Russian hackers. --According to a senior law enforcement official, there are no indications that these emails were withheld by Clinton, her campaign, or the State Department. --There are apparently no emails *from* Clinton; they're from Huma Abedin *to* Clinton. Thanks for clarifying what people like Mike are too lazy and knee-jerk in their jumping to wild conclusions to take the time to understand. He's like a typical Trump-like supporter (even thought he says he's not) who hear something and it becomes a steady chant in their heads "lock her up, lock her up" and their glassy eyes stare unseeing into the distance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaejWf5NIfI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaejWf5NIfI ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Looks like the fit is hitting the shan! October surprise
[FairfieldLife] Re: Check-out Drudge Report now.
Just to reiterate: The FBI doesn't yet know what's in the emails. They have to get a court order before they can read them. It's entirely possible that some or all of the emails are duplicates of those already in the FBI's possession from other sources. When the Clinton haters--Trump and his minions and Republicans like Ryan and Chaffetz--claim the FBI must have found sensational emails proving Clinton's guilt or they wouldn't have made this announcement so close to the election, they are not telling the truth. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : as usual, it is a yawn - HRC says get it all out in the open. Why should she care? She doesn't hide her taxes, or suggest grabbing someone's genitals. Compared to that orange sex offender and tax cheat, she comes across like a saint. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Looks like the fit is hitting the shan! October surprise
[FairfieldLife] Re: Check-out Drudge Report now.
The Trump faction and all the Hillary-haters sure will try to make it sound like that. But it's almost certainly yet another nothingburger. A few facts not available on Drudge: --The FBI hasn't read the emails yet. They have to get a court order first. So they have no idea what's in them. --The investigation that was completed in July has not been "reopened." --The emails have nothing to do with Wikileaks or the Russian hackers. --According to a senior law enforcement official, there are no indications that these emails were withheld by Clinton, her campaign, or the State Department. --There are apparently no emails *from* Clinton; they're from Huma Abedin *to* Clinton. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Looks like the fit is hitting the shan! October surprise
Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa
He's making stuff up. I never said Bhairitu thought Moore was supporting Trump. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL! You seem to be making the same mistake that Barry did on The Corner. What's this with the bawee thing? First you compare me to bawee and now authfriend. Get a grip and give yourself some distance from whatever is happening over there at the Water Closet. It seems to be some sort of infection and you're possibly contagious. I already knew Moore was supporting Clinton. And a lot of the Trump supporters knew that too. Moore is not going to bite the Hollywood Hillary supporting hands that feed him. But what he pointed out was nothing more than many political analysts have been pointing out for months about the Trump supporters. They're against the establishment that has royally screwed them over. The Moore video was just a piece of cheese dropped in to the maze to see the reaction. :-D On 10/27/2016 06:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu is all overstimulated because Michael Moore has been babbling about how Hillary's going to lose. Trump is thrilled too; so's his son. Moore tweeted: Hey everyone - Trump, Jr. & right wing thinks my movie called "TrumpLand" is pro-Trump! Haha. Pls don't tell them otherwise! Speaking of TweedleDumber... It's hard to imagine the mindset of folks so consumed by hatred of Hillary that they're actually hoping Trump wins. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 10/27/2016 03:17 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunshineiniowa@... mailto:salsunshineiniowa@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nate Silver has Hillary at 54%, Trump at 45%, in Iowa. And in the battle ground state of Ohio, Hillary edges out Trump at 51% vs 48. Pennsylvania isn’t even close anymore, at 86 to 13, same with Michigan. Woo hoo. Still, no complacency and everybody has to go and vote, who knows what kinds of tricks Trump’s people are planning. But things are definitely looking good. Bet Bhairitu is making his travel plans as we speak. He and Barry can cry together over their beers. LOL! And just how are these polls conducted? Have you not read that this election year polls have been difficult to conduct because 1) millennials don't have landlines which are called for polling and 2) older folks like me who get those surveys have robocall blockers so we never pick up? The election is tweedle-dee and tweedle dumber. Ho-hum. Welcome to politics South American style. Sal On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:49 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Hillary has pulled even with Trump in Iowa.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : LOL! You seem to be making the same mistake that Barry did on The Corner. I already knew Moore was supporting Clinton. Get a grip, Bhairitu. I never said you didn't know that. And a lot of the Trump supporters knew that too. Most of the YouTube commenters didn't. And the Trumps don't. Moore is not going to bite the Hollywood Hillary supporting hands that feed him. Oh, right, I forgot, nobody supports Hillary unless they're being paid to do so. Good lord, talk about delusional. But what he pointed out was nothing more than many political analysts have been pointing out for months about the Trump supporters. They're against the establishment that has royally screwed them over. Duh. Stop the presses! Whatever would we do without Mooresplanations? The Moore video was just a piece of cheese dropped in to the maze to see the reaction. :-D On 10/27/2016 06:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu is all overstimulated because Michael Moore has been babbling about how Hillary's going to lose. Trump is thrilled too; so's his son. Moore tweeted: Hey everyone - Trump, Jr. & right wing thinks my movie called "TrumpLand" is pro-Trump! Haha. Pls don't tell them otherwise! Speaking of TweedleDumber... It's hard to imagine the mindset of folks so consumed by hatred of Hillary that they're actually hoping Trump wins. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 10/27/2016 03:17 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunshineiniowa@... mailto:salsunshineiniowa@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nate Silver has Hillary at 54%, Trump at 45%, in Iowa. And in the battle ground state of Ohio, Hillary edges out Trump at 51% vs 48. Pennsylvania isn’t even close anymore, at 86 to 13, same with Michigan. Woo hoo. Still, no complacency and everybody has to go and vote, who knows what kinds of tricks Trump’s people are planning. But things are definitely looking good. Bet Bhairitu is making his travel plans as we speak. He and Barry can cry together over their beers. LOL! And just how are these polls conducted? Have you not read that this election year polls have been difficult to conduct because 1) millennials don't have landlines which are called for polling and 2) older folks like me who get those surveys have robocall blockers so we never pick up? The election is tweedle-dee and tweedle dumber. Ho-hum. Welcome to politics South American style. Sal On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:49 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Hillary has pulled even with Trump in Iowa.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa
I hope you're just joking. This is an utterly ridiculous idea. The very last thing Trump would want, or consent to, is to be publicly declared a "loser." For those interested, two "enlightening" articles that appeared today about the Trump campaign's plans for after the election (win or lose): http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-27/inside-the-trump-bunker-with-12-days-to-go http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-27/inside-the-trump-bunker-with-12-days-to-go http://www.salon.com/2016/10/28/will-donald-trumps-uprising-go-global-even-if-he-loses/ http://www.salon.com/2016/10/28/will-donald-trumps-uprising-go-global-even-if-he-loses/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : noozguru, yep, I've begun to wonder if there's some very bizarre deal bt Clinton and Trump. This morning it's reported that he's advocating not having an election, just give the win to him! It's almost insane to think that he's not throwing the election her way by his extreme behavior. Oh, what a movie it would make. (-: From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa We'll know November 9th but until then it seems anybodies guess. Conservative Republicans don't like Trump because he's too liberal. In fact he may be to the left of Clinton. They're buddies too so sometimes I think they're playing a massive charade on the American people. I saw the possibility of Trump being a Buzz Windrip (Slnclair Lewis's "It Can't Happen Here") when he started running. So did others. I thought the Sanders was a long shot but he did well in his campaign. I think he should still be the Democratic Party Candidate and we know to Clinton campaign did everything they could to get him out of the race. Remember both Trump and Sanders are on the same page regarding trade agreements, job loss and wars of empire. Clinton just tries to snow her followers. On 10/27/2016 04:47 PM, feste37 wrote: I'm worried about these polls for some of the reasons you state, but I do not know which candidate the inaccuracies will favor. It seems highly unlikely that Trump can win, but I will still be relieved when the day after the election arrives. I understand the Tweedledee-Tweedledum thing, but I think there are also major differences between the parties. Obamacare, for example, has markedly reduced the number of uninsured people in this country, which would never have happened had Obama not been in the White House. The Republicans also have a large number of climate change deniers, which the Democrats do not have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : LOL! And just how are these polls conducted? Have you not read that this election year polls have been difficult to conduct because 1) millennials don't have landlines which are called for polling and 2) older folks like me who get those surveys have robocall blockers so we never pick up? The election is tweedle-dee and tweedle dumber. Ho-hum. Welcome to politics South American style. Sal On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:49 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Hillary has pulled even with Trump in Iowa.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : For those who may be new to lurking FairfieldLife, a spiritual Yahoo-group, I want to be clear that as a spiritual Yahoo-group we do not support any one mundane political candidate over any other candidate. Of course "we" don't. FFL is not a corporate entity and isn't set up to take any positions on anything as a group, including: However there seems a communal feeling by some here that is both spiritual and postmodern scientific that Natural Law, quite evidently when enlivened by the individual and group practice of effective transcendent meditation, will support a best outcome for the nation and world. And as to the P.P.S. below: Nobody agreed to refrain from posting about their support for specific political candidates when they joined FFL, nor has that ever been a requirement for membership. P.P.S., This does not mean that we, as individuals, do not support specific candidates. We may do so, offline. If you want to make this a rule, you need to put it in the About section, and you need to make sure anybody who joins the group understands that they're giving up the right to publicly support specific candidates in their postings here. Moreover, imposing new rules on people who have been FFL members for many years and who never agreed to those rules when they joined is devious, to say the least, and reflects very poorly on the claimed status of this group as a "spiritual" one, IMHO. And we could be sure to exercise a civic duty and vote for the candidates we believe will serve a nation in the most evolutionary way. Welcome to FairfieldLife, -Jai Guru You FairfieldLife, a (spiritual) Yahoo-group: Not the customary analysis of politics and economics but a conversation about spiritual questions. What did it mean for our spiritual lives? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : We'll know November 9th but until then it seems anybodies guess. Conservative Republicans don't like Trump because he's too liberal. Uh, no. In fact he may be to the left of Clinton. Uh, no. They're buddies too Uh, no. so sometimes I think they're playing a massive charade on the American people. I saw the possibility of Trump being a Buzz Windrip (Slnclair Lewis's "It Can't Happen Here") when he started running. So did others. I thought the Sanders was a long shot ("the Sanders"??) but he did well in his campaign. I think he should still be the Democratic Party Candidate and we know to Clinton campaign did everything they could to get him out of the race. Actually, he lost (by almost 4 million votes). Remember both Trump and Sanders are on the same page regarding trade agreements, job loss and wars of empire. Clinton just tries to snow her followers. Trump is an ignoramus; Sanders is an unrealistic dreamer. Clinton is a wonk who has oogobs of experience and a big set of well-thought-out policies. She snows people because she's so obviously qualified to be president. On 10/27/2016 04:47 PM, feste37 wrote: I'm worried about these polls for some of the reasons you state, but I do not know which candidate the inaccuracies will favor. It seems highly unlikely that Trump can win, but I will still be relieved when the day after the election arrives. I understand the Tweedledee-Tweedledum thing, but I think there are also major differences between the parties. Obamacare, for example, has markedly reduced the number of uninsured people in this country, which would never have happened had Obama not been in the White House. The Republicans also have a large number of climate change deniers, which the Democrats do not have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : LOL! And just how are these polls conducted? Have you not read that this election year polls have been difficult to conduct because 1) millennials don't have landlines which are called for polling and 2) older folks like me who get those surveys have robocall blockers so we never pick up? The election is tweedle-dee and tweedle dumber. Ho-hum. Welcome to politics South American style. Sal On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:49 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Hillary has pulled even with Trump in Iowa.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : We'll know November 9th but until then it seems anybodies guess. Conservative Republicans don't like Trump because he's too liberal. Uh, no. In fact he may be to the left of Clinton. Uh, no. They're buddies too Uh, no. so sometimes I think they're playing a massive charade on the American people. I saw the possibility of Trump being a Buzz Windrip (Slnclair Lewis's "It Can't Happen Here") when he started running. So did others. I thought the Sanders was a long shot ("the Sanders"??) but he did well in his campaign. I think he should still be the Democratic Party Candidate and we know to Clinton campaign did everything they could to get him out of the race. Actually, he lost (by almost 4 million votes). Remember both Trump and Sanders are on the same page regarding trade agreements, job loss and wars of empire. Clinton just tries to snow her followers. Trump is an ignoramus; Sanders is an unrealistic dreamer. Clinton is a wonk who has oogobs of experience and a big set of well-thought-out policies. She snows people because she's so obviously qualified to be president. On 10/27/2016 04:47 PM, feste37 wrote: I'm worried about these polls for some of the reasons you state, but I do not know which candidate the inaccuracies will favor. It seems highly unlikely that Trump can win, but I will still be relieved when the day after the election arrives. I understand the Tweedledee-Tweedledum thing, but I think there are also major differences between the parties. Obamacare, for example, has markedly reduced the number of uninsured people in this country, which would never have happened had Obama not been in the White House. The Republicans also have a large number of climate change deniers, which the Democrats do not have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : LOL! And just how are these polls conducted? Have you not read that this election year polls have been difficult to conduct because 1) millennials don't have landlines which are called for polling and 2) older folks like me who get those surveys have robocall blockers so we never pick up? The election is tweedle-dee and tweedle dumber. Ho-hum. Welcome to politics South American style. Sal On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:49 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Hillary has pulled even with Trump in Iowa.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa
Bhairitu is all overstimulated because Michael Moore has been babbling about how Hillary's going to lose. Trump is thrilled too; so's his son. Moore tweeted: Hey everyone - Trump, Jr. & right wing thinks my movie called "TrumpLand" is pro-Trump! Haha. Pls don't tell them otherwise! Speaking of TweedleDumber... It's hard to imagine the mindset of folks so consumed by hatred of Hillary that they're actually hoping Trump wins. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : On 10/27/2016 03:17 PM, Sal Sunshine salsunshineiniowa@... mailto:salsunshineiniowa@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Nate Silver has Hillary at 54%, Trump at 45%, in Iowa. And in the battle ground state of Ohio, Hillary edges out Trump at 51% vs 48. Pennsylvania isn’t even close anymore, at 86 to 13, same with Michigan. Woo hoo. Still, no complacency and everybody has to go and vote, who knows what kinds of tricks Trump’s people are planning. But things are definitely looking good. Bet Bhairitu is making his travel plans as we speak. He and Barry can cry together over their beers. LOL! And just how are these polls conducted? Have you not read that this election year polls have been difficult to conduct because 1) millennials don't have landlines which are called for polling and 2) older folks like me who get those surveys have robocall blockers so we never pick up? The election is tweedle-dee and tweedle dumber. Ho-hum. Welcome to politics South American style. Sal On Oct 27, 2016, at 4:49 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Hillary has pulled even with Trump in Iowa.
[FairfieldLife] Clinton-Trump 44-44 in Iowa
According to the latest Quinnipiac poll, Hillary has pulled even with Trump in Iowa.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!
So for this thing to be whipped would mean the number of meditators that Doug thinks will keep this thing from losing would be gathered? How does he know how many would be sufficient? And then, what does "losing" mean in this context? It can't refer to one candidate or the other not winning the election, since Doug has declared all of TM-land to be neutral in that regard; Nature will make the choice for us, you see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : It means people who practice meditation, probably Transcendental Meditation specifically, should meditate in clumps — together — and that presumably will effect the outcome of the election. And that in his view, people are not doing this, and the result he desires will not come to pass. What if someone has the opposite desire and people gather and meditate so that specific desire is fulfilled? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Friends of meditating, we are 15 days out. The Presidential contest is close enough I'm feeling that if we don't whip this right now with meditating collectively in proximity we just might lose the whole thing. What the heck does this mean, Doug? I can't make any sense of it. As we know by experience and the science, numbers meditating and their proximity do matter in collective meditation. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us in meditating in Fairfield, Iowa. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. We could use your help. Come join with us now in a collective group of meditation, in Fairfield, Iowa! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Meditators, I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us in meditating and at the Domes in Fairfield, Iowa. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Inside of 18 days now. The debates are past. People are deciding now how they are voting and some are early- voting now. It is time now to certainly attend to meditation. “These are the times which try human souls” May All blessings and grace of the Unified Field be upon us now for the work in progress we now have at hand. It is come the time for more meditation, -JaiGuruYou Fairfield Housing for Arriving Meditators: website at: www.idealifeassembly.com http://www.idealifeassembly.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Peer-reviewed, published, replicated, honest-to-goodness, gold-standard scientific research leads us to make this heartfelt request to you: Come and join us in Fairfield for any number of days between Oct 12th and Nov 12th. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : We're inside three weeks to the election. Days.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Friends, Today we are now at 35 days and tomorrow, this Tuesday, is one month before the general election for the United States of America President, and what then will become the complexion of governance of our USA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : We ask your help to be with us now in a meditation of coherence. Come now. Come quickly and assemble. There is ample housing and stores of plenty here to keep you here. Certainly it is up to you to assemble. You might stay at home alone in a comfort of your house and room but never will you be able to do so great a thing as to assemble with this now. Come quickly as you can, come now to Fairfield, Iowa for the enhancement of a collective peace in meditation. Arrange your affairs quickly and come directly. In numbers gathered close it will be our great honor and privilege to be meditating together with you alongside. Come join in the collective practice of group meditation. We flatter ourselves, therefore, that, in this case, too, nothing will be wanting which the World has a right to expect of your valor. It is time to assemble in collective meditation. Jai Guru You! -Doug in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 37 Days to the Presidential Election.. Meditators, Brothers and Sisters in Eternity, Shake your souls! AWAKE! An hour so long waiting for has come. Over a dark firmament of suffering Humanity is rising the Morning Star, heralding the day when we will understand that people’s most sacred duty is to be Human - that is, to manifest LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, TRUTH and LOVE. There is no higher aim, no vaster
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Friends of meditating, we are 15 days out. The Presidential contest is close enough I'm feeling that if we don't whip this right now with meditating collectively in proximity we just might lose the whole thing. What the heck does this mean, Doug? I can't make any sense of it. As we know by experience and the science, numbers meditating and their proximity do matter in collective meditation. I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us in meditating in Fairfield, Iowa. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. We could use your help. Come join with us now in a collective group of meditation, in Fairfield, Iowa! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Meditators, I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us in meditating and at the Domes in Fairfield, Iowa. This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Inside of 18 days now. The debates are past. People are deciding now how they are voting and some are early- voting now. It is time now to certainly attend to meditation. “These are the times which try human souls” May All blessings and grace of the Unified Field be upon us now for the work in progress we now have at hand. It is come the time for more meditation, -JaiGuruYou Fairfield Housing for Arriving Meditators: website at: www.idealifeassembly.com http://www.idealifeassembly.com/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Peer-reviewed, published, replicated, honest-to-goodness, gold-standard scientific research leads us to make this heartfelt request to you: Come and join us in Fairfield for any number of days between Oct 12th and Nov 12th. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : We're inside three weeks to the election. Days.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Friends, Today we are now at 35 days and tomorrow, this Tuesday, is one month before the general election for the United States of America President, and what then will become the complexion of governance of our USA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : We ask your help to be with us now in a meditation of coherence. Come now. Come quickly and assemble. There is ample housing and stores of plenty here to keep you here. Certainly it is up to you to assemble. You might stay at home alone in a comfort of your house and room but never will you be able to do so great a thing as to assemble with this now. Come quickly as you can, come now to Fairfield, Iowa for the enhancement of a collective peace in meditation. Arrange your affairs quickly and come directly. In numbers gathered close it will be our great honor and privilege to be meditating together with you alongside. Come join in the collective practice of group meditation. We flatter ourselves, therefore, that, in this case, too, nothing will be wanting which the World has a right to expect of your valor. It is time to assemble in collective meditation. Jai Guru You! -Doug in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 37 Days to the Presidential Election.. Meditators, Brothers and Sisters in Eternity, Shake your souls! AWAKE! An hour so long waiting for has come. Over a dark firmament of suffering Humanity is rising the Morning Star, heralding the day when we will understand that people’s most sacred duty is to be Human - that is, to manifest LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, TRUTH and LOVE. There is no higher aim, no vaster problem, and you who realize this will break the fetters with which Ignorance & Fear have bound unconscious Humanity, will stand up free, and know yourselves to be the Eternal Manifestation of the Unmanifest, Witnesses of the Absolute, Sons and Daughters of that GREAT ALL, whom you call GOD the Unified Field. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 43 Days to the Election. Maintain your core, Be of Service to all and Rally Now, to Meditation! By our reference of our own experience as transcendentalists and by what is modern science, it is quite time now to assemble ourselves collectively by coming together with other meditators. -Jai Guru You ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Friends, Meditationists; As you know, the research (really strong research) shows that meditators and Sidhas doing their TM-Sidhi® program in numbers and in proximity together in a group create
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve, Come Back!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : No, I didn't do nothing around Steve 7Ray. Maybe he did something in his own settings when he was saying he was leaving. I did notice he was at the receiving end of some demeaning personalized posting that went beyond consideration of ccontent and he said he had enough of that. You forgot to mention that he was also on the sending end, big-time. I always appreciated his content too. 7Ray was perceptive and I miss him too. List owner and moderator, -Dug Jung Un ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : He is still subscribed, but his posting has been disabled. Unfortunately, the stupid Yahoo interface is showing no record of his posting being yanked. All I know is that I had nothing to with this. My guess is that Doug pulled the plug, and a Yahoo glitch prevented the action from showing up in the moderator activity log. Questions should be directed to Doug: dhamiltony2k5 @ Yahoo.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Get back over here, Steve. I miss your posts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Heartbreaking
It's not just that, though. It's that being the target of racist rhetoric can cause long-lasting damage to children psychologically, even if the racist attacks were (miraculously) to cease. The children doing the attacking are, of course, damaged as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : No, because his insane supporters will still be with us, by the millions. And the Republican party, or what’s left of it, will still be giving them a voice. Sal On Oct 23, 2016, at 12:04 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: "All the black and brown people have to leave": Trump’s scary impact on how kids think http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/20/13319366/donald-trump-racism-bigotry-children-bullying-muslim-mexican-black-immigrant http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/20/13319366/donald-trump-racism-bigotry-children-bullying-muslim-mexican-black-immigrant "All the black and brown people have to leave"... http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/20/13319366/donald-trump-racism-bigotry-children-bullying-muslim-mexican-black-immigrant Children have picked up on all the racist rhetoric. View on www.vox.com http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/20/13319366/donald-trump-racism-bigotry-children-bullying-muslim-mexican-black-immigrant Preview by Yahoo What Trumpism is doing to kids, and why, even if he loses, the damage won't heal.
[FairfieldLife] Heartbreaking
"All the black and brown people have to leave": Trump’s scary impact on how kids think http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/20/13319366/donald-trump-racism-bigotry-children-bullying-muslim-mexican-black-immigrant http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/20/13319366/donald-trump-racism-bigotry-children-bullying-muslim-mexican-black-immigrant "All the black and brown people have to leave"... http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/20/13319366/donald-trump-racism-bigotry-children-bullying-muslim-mexican-black-immigrant Children have picked up on all the racist rhetoric. View on www.vox.com http://www.vox.com/identities/2016/10/20/13319366/donald-trump-racism-bigotry-children-bullying-muslim-mexican-black-immigrant Preview by Yahoo What Trumpism is doing to kids, and why, even if he loses, the damage won't heal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve, Come Back!
That is strange. Just testing to see whether I've been "disabled" too! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : He is still subscribed, but his posting has been disabled. Unfortunately, the stupid Yahoo interface is showing no record of his posting being yanked. All I know is that I had nothing to with this. My guess is that Doug pulled the plug, and a Yahoo glitch prevented the action from showing up in the moderator activity log. Questions should be directed to Doug: dhamiltony2k5 @ Yahoo.com What?! I just thought Steve had stopped posting on his own volition. Now it could be there is foul work afoot? Dastardly! Doug, do you have anything to add? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Get back over here, Steve. I miss your posts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: UFO Wreckage Found, dating 250,000 years old
I don't think I suggested I had any information that the tests were flawed, did I? I'm saying that is a far more likely possibility than that the piece of metal is that old. I don't need any information that the tests were flawed to make that assertion. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Judy, You don't have any information that the tests were flawed. The article states that a lab at Lausanne, Switzerland, performed the test. The lab could have performed the tests correctly. If true, the aluminum metal could have come from ETs since humans could not have manufactured the metal at that early date. Or, another possibility could happen. That the metal came from a previous group of humans from another age, who were advanced than the present age. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Actually, John, what "stands to reason" is that the tests on the age of this piece of metal were seriously flawed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The item found was made of aluminum. At that time, humans did not have the technology to make aluminum. So, it stands to reason that the item could have been made by non-humans or ETs that visited the earth at that time. Investigator Claims 'Ufo Wreckage' Is Evidence Aliens Visited The Earth 250,000 Years Ago http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/10/21/investigator-claims-ufo-wreckage-is-evidence-aliens-visited-earth-25-years-ago.html http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/10/21/investigator-claims-ufo-wreckage-is-evidence-aliens-visited-earth-25-years-ago.html Investigator Claims 'Ufo Wreckage' Is Evidence A... http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/10/21/investigator-claims-ufo-wreckage-is-evidence-aliens-visited-earth-25-years-ago.html The discovery of an ancient piece of aluminium is being hailed as evidence that aliens visited Earth 250,000 years ago. View on www.foxnews.com http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/10/21/investigator-claims-ufo-wreckage-is-evidence-aliens-visited-earth-25-years-ago.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: UFO Wreckage Found, dating 250,000 years old
Actually, John, what "stands to reason" is that the tests on the age of this piece of metal were seriously flawed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : The item found was made of aluminum. At that time, humans did not have the technology to make aluminum. So, it stands to reason that the item could have been made by non-humans or ETs that visited the earth at that time. Investigator Claims 'Ufo Wreckage' Is Evidence Aliens Visited The Earth 250,000 Years Ago http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/10/21/investigator-claims-ufo-wreckage-is-evidence-aliens-visited-earth-25-years-ago.html http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/10/21/investigator-claims-ufo-wreckage-is-evidence-aliens-visited-earth-25-years-ago.html Investigator Claims 'Ufo Wreckage' Is Evidence A... http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/10/21/investigator-claims-ufo-wreckage-is-evidence-aliens-visited-earth-25-years-ago.html The discovery of an ancient piece of aluminium is being hailed as evidence that aliens visited Earth 250,000 years ago. View on www.foxnews.com http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/10/21/investigator-claims-ufo-wreckage-is-evidence-aliens-visited-earth-25-years-ago.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] After Hillary's Win
You don't find the article you linked to scary? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : On 10/19/2016 08:46 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Here's an article about life after a Trump loss: After Trump loses: An ominous American future imagined After Trump loses: An ominous American future ... A dispatch from the near-future View on theweek.com Preview by Yahoo My God, how do you sleep at night? Quit well. Why?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's outfit
FWIW: This would never have occurred to me, but it's been pointed out that she wore red for the first debate, blue for the second...and white for the third. Nice symbolism! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : All-white. Loved it. Beauty and the Beast. Or St. Hillary and the Dragon.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats
The integrity of anything produced by right-winger James O'Keefe is seriously suspect. He's the dude who did the tapes that falsely implicated Planned Parenthood for illegally selling fetuses for research, among several other "stings" using selectively (deceptively) edited video. He refuses to release the original Creamer tapes, which should make anybody think twice about whether to believe what the edited versions allegedly reveal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : 100percentfedup.com/lol-dem-operative-tied-hillary-quits-hes-caught-discussing-voter-fraud-efforts-undercover-tape-video/ http://100percentfedup.com/lol-dem-operative-tied-hillary-quits-hes-caught-discussing-voter-fraud-efforts-undercover-tape-video/ Robert Creamer resigns from campaign after being caught discussing voter fraud From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Non sequitur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And John Wilkes Booth was an actor. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Robert Creamer has been a political organizer and strategist for four decades. He and his firm, Democracy Partners, work with many of the country’s most significant issue campaigns. He was one of the major architects and organizers of the successful campaign to defeat the privatization of Social Security. He has been a consultant to the campaigns to end the war in Iraq, pass universal health care, pass Wall Street reform, change America’s budget priorities, enact comprehensive immigration reform, promulgate new employer overtime rules, and pass the Nuclear Agreement with Iran. He has also worked on hundreds of electoral campaigns at the local, state and national level -- and served as a consultant to the DNC and President Obama's campaigns in 2008 and 2012. Robert Creamer | Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Robert Creamer | Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Robert Creamer has been a political organizer and strategist for four decades. He and his firm, Democracy Partners, work with many of the country’s most significant issue campaigns. View on www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ Dem Operative Who Oversaw Trump Rally Agitators Visited White House 342 Times A key operative in a Democratic scheme to send agitators to cause unrest at Donald Trump's rallies has visit... http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Yes John.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU Election Expert: There Are 4 Million Dead People on US Voter Rolls Elections expert J. Christian Adams told FOX and Friends on Tuesday morning there are 4 million dead people on U... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Does that still happen today? In the past, Lyndon Johnson did the same tactic in Texas. Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With Dead Democrats https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With De... https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani said he believed elections in some big cities could be rigged, some with dead Democrat voters, obviously harming Republican presidential nominee Donal...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : There's virtually no evidence of dead people voting. Of course *dead* people don't vote! Someone votes in their place with a photoless ID or by mail in ballot. Yes, Mike, I'm aware of that. Could you be a little more literal-minded, please? Here, I'll rephrase to help you out: There's virtually no evidence of live people voting in place of dead people. How do you know Democrats don't want the voter rolls cleansed Did you watch the whole video? Perhaps it was on another video but numerous liberal organizations have sued to stop the purges of the voting rolls. There are serious problems with the data used to "purge" the rolls, and as a result huge numbers of voters are being dropped from the rolls when they shouldn't be. See: The GOP's Stealth War Against Voters http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890 http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890 The GOP's Stealth War Against Voters http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890 Will an anti-voter-fraud program designed by one of Donald Trump's advisers deny tens of thousands their right to vote in November? View on www.rollingstone.com http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890 Preview by Yahoo But Mike knows better than to pretend that voter ID laws don't disenfranchise minority voters (who tend to vote Democratic, of course). Anyone can get the ID's, it's easy. No, it's not that easy for many people (especially low-income people, i.e., minorities). That's the whole point of the laws: make it more difficult for them to vote. The voter ID laws were designed to protect the integrity of everyone else's vote, not to suppress any other vote. The voter ID laws (and several other measures to limit voting, including less time for early voting, fewer polling places, etc.) were designed to suppress minority (Democratic) voters. Republican state legislators have openly admitted this, on the record. Voter ID laws are especially suspect because there is, as I keep saying, virtually no evidence of actual voter fraud. There's nothing significant for "everyone else's vote" to be protected *from*. "Protecting the integrity of the vote" is just a disingenuous smokescreen. Shame on you for perpetuating it. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : But they don't vote, Mike, And you know this how? Why do Democrats not want the voter rolls cleaned of these dead people? ? The folks who are doing their best to rig the election are the Republicans who have passed voter ID laws in their states to suppress participation by minorities. John, the voter ID laws simply require that in order to vote, you have to produce a valid ID, such as a drivers license or state issued ID of some sort, with a current photo. You can't even cash your welfare check without one! Not sure why Mike is addressing John here after quoting what I wrote. that the laws were designed to reduce Democratic votes. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats and they're not a "plot" to "rig" the election. There's virtually no evidence of voter fraud in this country. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes John.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU Election Expert: There Are 4 Million Dead People on US Voter Rolls Elections expert J. Christian Adams told FOX and Friends on Tuesday morning there are 4 million dead people on U... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Does that still happen today? In the past, Lyndon Johnson did the same tactic in Texas. Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With Dead Democrats https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats
Non sequitur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : And John Wilkes Booth was an actor. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Robert Creamer has been a political organizer and strategist for four decades. He and his firm, Democracy Partners, work with many of the country’s most significant issue campaigns. He was one of the major architects and organizers of the successful campaign to defeat the privatization of Social Security. He has been a consultant to the campaigns to end the war in Iraq, pass universal health care, pass Wall Street reform, change America’s budget priorities, enact comprehensive immigration reform, promulgate new employer overtime rules, and pass the Nuclear Agreement with Iran. He has also worked on hundreds of electoral campaigns at the local, state and national level -- and served as a consultant to the DNC and President Obama's campaigns in 2008 and 2012. Robert Creamer | Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Robert Creamer | Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Robert Creamer has been a political organizer and strategist for four decades. He and his firm, Democracy Partners, work with many of the country’s most significant issue campaigns. View on www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ Dem Operative Who Oversaw Trump Rally Agitators Visited White House 342 Times A key operative in a Democratic scheme to send agitators to cause unrest at Donald Trump's rallies has visit... http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Yes John.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU Election Expert: There Are 4 Million Dead People on US Voter Rolls Elections expert J. Christian Adams told FOX and Friends on Tuesday morning there are 4 million dead people on U... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Does that still happen today? In the past, Lyndon Johnson did the same tactic in Texas. Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With Dead Democrats https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With De... https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani said he believed elections in some big cities could be rigged, some with dead Democrat voters, obviously harming Republican presidential nominee Donal... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : But they don't vote, Mike, And you know this how? There's virtually no evidence of dead people voting. Why do Democrats not want the voter rolls cleaned of these dead people? How do you know Democrats don't want the voter rolls cleansed? The folks who are doing their best to rig the election are the Republicans who have passed voter ID laws in their states to suppress participation by minorities. John, the voter ID laws simply require that in order to vote, you have to produce a valid ID, such as a drivers license or state issued ID of some sort, with a current photo. You can't even cash your welfare check without one! Not sure why Mike is addressing John here after quoting what I wrote. But Mike knows better than to pretend that voter ID laws don't disenfranchise minority voters (who tend to vote Democratic, of course). In fact, Republican legislators have said openly, on the record, that the laws were designed to reduce Democratic votes. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats and they're not a "plot" to "rig" the election. There's virtually no evidence of voter fraud in this country. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes John.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU Election Expert: There Are 4 Million Dead People on US Voter Rolls Elections expert J. Christian Adams told FOX and Friends on Tuesday morning there are 4 million dead people on U... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Does that still happen today? In the past, Lyndon Johnson did the same tactic in Texas. Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With Dead Democrats https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With De... https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani said he believed elections in some big cities could be rigged, some with dead Democrat voters, obviously harming Republican presidential nominee Donal... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats
Robert Creamer has been a political organizer and strategist for four decades. He and his firm, Democracy Partners, work with many of the country’s most significant issue campaigns. He was one of the major architects and organizers of the successful campaign to defeat the privatization of Social Security. He has been a consultant to the campaigns to end the war in Iraq, pass universal health care, pass Wall Street reform, change America’s budget priorities, enact comprehensive immigration reform, promulgate new employer overtime rules, and pass the Nuclear Agreement with Iran. He has also worked on hundreds of electoral campaigns at the local, state and national level -- and served as a consultant to the DNC and President Obama's campaigns in 2008 and 2012. Robert Creamer | Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Robert Creamer | Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Robert Creamer has been a political organizer and strategist for four decades. He and his firm, Democracy Partners, work with many of the country’s most significant issue campaigns. View on www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/robert-creamer Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ Dem Operative Who Oversaw Trump Rally Agitators Visited White House 342 Times A key operative in a Democratic scheme to send agitators to cause unrest at Donald Trump's rallies has visit... http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/18/exposed-dem-operative-who-oversaw-trump-rally-agitators-visited-white-house-342-times/ From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Yes John.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU Election Expert: There Are 4 Million Dead People on US Voter Rolls Elections expert J. Christian Adams told FOX and Friends on Tuesday morning there are 4 million dead people on U... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Does that still happen today? In the past, Lyndon Johnson did the same tactic in Texas. Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With Dead Democrats https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With De... https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani said he believed elections in some big cities could be rigged, some with dead Democrat voters, obviously harming Republican presidential nominee Donal... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats
But they don't vote, Mike, and they're not a "plot" to "rig" the election. There's virtually no evidence of voter fraud in this country. The folks who are doing their best to rig the election are the Republicans who have passed voter ID laws in their states to suppress participation by minorities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Yes John.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU Election Expert: There Are 4 Million Dead People on US Voter Rolls Elections expert J. Christian Adams told FOX and Friends on Tuesday morning there are 4 million dead people on U... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqlUrdEGwU From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats Does that still happen today? In the past, Lyndon Johnson did the same tactic in Texas. Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With Dead Democrats https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With De... https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Rudy Giuliani said he believed elections in some big cities could be rigged, some with dead Democrat voters, obviously harming Republican presidential nominee Donal... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
A candidate's announcement that he or she practiced TM, specifically, would tend to be a negative to the religious right and evangelicals generally. That's a very significant voting bloc in this country. The science-oriented among the millennials would likely be skeptical of a meditation practice associated with woo-woo like Yogic Flying or claiming widespread positive results from meditating in a group. BTW, if I were you, I wouldn't paint large groups of religious people as "rabid." Really doesn't look good coming from you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : On the way to the White House the identification of voter blocs becomes key to the work. In which blocs now would a candidate admitting to meditating be a negative? A positive? Yesterday in Fairfield, Iowa at a small shop we had a grocery bag stuffed with a X-ian flier insert that was all about TM being religion, cult and dangerous. Mindfulness practice maybe gets a pass and is not? Voter bloc, how much could confrontational conservative X-ians as a particular vote bloc matter anymore to a candidate now admitting they meditate for their own well-being? A 'meditating' candidate might be a plus to millennials. Can millennials and Gen-X and Y outweigh the shrinking rabid religious X-ian bloc in America? Would it be safe for any of the candidates to let it be known they meditate? Even 'hip'? ..Maybe in the next election cycle. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign? Yet, recommending ‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best practices' of the AMA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
I'd be surprised if you weren't well aware, Doug, that mindfulness is widely seen and advertised as secular rather than Buddhist, a psychological rather than a religious practice, so your question is puzzling. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign? Yet, recommending ‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best practices' of the AMA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too. It was the "in" thing to do back then. On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote: I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It never did on mine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:rick@... wrote : Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th Avenue. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Giuliani: The elections will be rigged, with dead Democrats
John, you could easily have looked this stuff up yourself. Took me about five minutes. The facts are that voter fraud is virtually nonexistent in this country. What we should be concerned about is the voter *suppression* resulting from GOP voter-ID laws, which are designed to reduce voter participation by minorities. And this election, we need to worry about voter *intimidation* by Trump-inspired volunteer poll vigilantes. Questions and Answers on Voter Fraud http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/us/voter-id-laws-donald-trump.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/us/voter-id-laws-donald-trump.html Questions and Answers on Voter Fraud http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/us/voter-id-laws-donald-trump.html Donald J. Trump, denouncing recent rulings against voter identification laws, suggested that fraud at the polls is common. Experts say that is wrong. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/us/voter-id-laws-donald-trump.html Preview by Yahoo http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/opinion/the-success-of-the-voter-fraud-myth.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/opinion/the-success-of-the-voter-fraud-myth.html Trump Wrongly Insists Voter Fraud Is 'Very, Very Common' http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/10/17/us/politics/ap-us-campaign-2016-trump-voter-fraud.html http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/10/17/us/politics/ap-us-campaign-2016-trump-voter-fraud.html Trump Wrongly Insists Voter Fraud Is 'Very, Very Com... http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/10/17/us/politics/ap-us-campaign-2016-trump-voter-fraud.html Donald Trump is insisting voter fraud does, indeed, pose a significant threat to the integrity of the U.S. electoral system, claiming the election could be rigged View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/10/17/us/politics/ap-us-campaign-2016-trump-voter-fraud.html Preview by Yahoo The article you link to below is from NewsMax, a right-wing media outfit: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Does that still happen today? In the past, Lyndon Johnson did the same tactic in Texas. Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With Dead Democrats https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html Rudy Giuliani Agrees Elections Rigged, With De... https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html Rudy Giuliani said he believed elections in some big cities could be rigged, some with dead Democrat voters, obviously harming Republican presidential nominee Donal... View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/7e25-9622-3c1b-af1c-f4d7f26a8284/rudy-giuliani-agrees.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else to interpret this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say? Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).
[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president
According to you, Doug, one of the most devoted, committed long-term TMers in the world, Bevan Morris, was ousted from his position as president of MUM because he was so inept at managing the university. We also know that several long-term TMers who post regularly to this group have a penchant for coughing up false and malicious tales they've swallowed--without a hint of critical thinking--from right-wingers desperate to destroy Hillary Clinton. Why on *earth* should we think Melania's meditation practice (if indeed she has one--we don't know that for a fact) would have enough of a beneficial effect on her husband to make it reasonable to ignore the hundreds of reasons he's utterly unfit for the presidency? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ is a meditator. Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough to vote for her husband? Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc? Otherwise, what does the science say, about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation? What should Common sense say?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Now This is Scary
FWIW, the WaPo article that was the source for the Time article Ann links to and quotes from has been updated to reflect that the registration forms were not seized but photocopied, and the originals left with the registration offices. That does NOT make everything OK with this stunt by any means, but it's not quite as bad as it sounds from the Time article. Group accuses Mike Pence of voter suppression after state police raid registration program in Indiana https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/15/group-accuses-mike-pence-of-voter-suppression-after-state-police-raid-registration-program-in-indiana/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/15/group-accuses-mike-pence-of-voter-suppression-after-state-police-raid-registration-program-in-indiana/ Group accuses Mike Pence of voter suppression after stat... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/15/group-accuses-mike-pence-of-voter-suppression-after-state-police-raid-registration-program-in-indiana/ During a recent campaign event, the Indiana governor noted that there was “vigorous” voter fraud investigation in his state. View on www.washingtonpost... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/15/group-accuses-mike-pence-of-voter-suppression-after-state-police-raid-registration-program-in-indiana/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Full article here but read the excerpt below: http://time.com/4533254/donald-trump-rigged-election-voter-suppression/ http://time.com/4533254/donald-trump-rigged-election-voter-suppression/ Indiana’s Republican governor, Mike Pence—Trump’s running mate—has sent state troopers https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/15/group-accuses-mike-pence-of-voter-suppression-after-state-police-raid-registration-program-in-indiana/ into more than half of the state’s counties to conduct “investigations” into potential voter fraud. In one county alone, state troopers seized application papers https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/15/group-accuses-mike-pence-of-voter-suppression-after-state-police-raid-registration-program-in-indiana/ for more than 45,000 newly registered black voters—effectively keeping http://www.patriotmajority.org/news_and_events/2016-10-pences-state-police-trying-to-rig-2016-elections them from voting in what is likely to be close presidential and Senate contests in the state. Multiply that sort of seizure of newly registered voter papers in 50-plus counties in Indiana by state troopers conducting investigations, and it’s likely more than enough to make a difference in a close contest. Pence officials have said that the state police investigations are legitimate and that they believe instances of voter fraud will be found. But this looks mostly like voter suppression, conducted under the guise of an investigation of voter “fraud” (which, again, is essentially nonexistent in America). It’s more likely it has one simple, direct goal in mind: to disenfranchise voters. In this case, the goal would seem to be to keep newly registered black voters from supporting either Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton or Senate Democratic candidate Evan Bayh. Pence actively supports these efforts. In a video of one of his campaign events http://www.mediaite.com/online/pence-tells-rallygoer-dont-say-that-in-response-to-cry-for-revolution/, for instance, an audience member said: “One of the things that a lot of us are scared of is this voter fraud. I’m ready for a revolution, because we can’t have her in (office).” Pence responded, “Don’t say that,” and started backing away from her. But once he was beside the podium, Pence touted the state trooper voter fraud investigations in dozens of Indiana counties. “There’s a revolution coming on November 8th, I promise you,” Pence said. “I’ll tell you, in the state of Indiana right now, we’ve got a pretty vigorous investigation into voter fraud going on.” Compared to voter fraud, voter intimidation, is a much more insidious (and potentially dangerous) method of trying to win by keeping the other side from even showing up at polls. This is the tactic that Trump and his super-surrogate, Rudy Giuliani, have begun to deploy in recent days by actively encouraging their supporters to go to polling places in the suburbs and urban areas to “monitor http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/16/politics/rudy-giuliani-rigged-elections-donald-trump/index.html” activities.
[FairfieldLife] Unfit to be president
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/donald_trump_is_unfit_to_be_president_here_are_141_reasons_why.html http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/donald_trump_is_unfit_to_be_president_here_are_141_reasons_why.html Since this was first posted to Slate, there have been some additions. The list is now up to 230 reasons why Trump is unfit to be president.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 17-Oct-16 00:15:07 UTC
It's fine for corporate entities such as the TMO and MUM to declare that they do not, as organizations, take a position on the U.S. elections. The same cannot be said of the Fairfield spiritual community or the Yahoo group Fairfield_Life, which are not corporate entities but collections of individuals. Nobody can validly say that these collections, or the individuals who compose the collections, take no position on the U.S. elections, nor that they subscribe to the "general communal premise" outlined below. Those would be empty, meaningless statements. These collections of individuals are not subsidiaries of the TMO or MUM. Any individual member of any of these collections is, of course, free to say that he or she takes no position on the elections. He or she, however, cannot legitimately make such a statement on behalf of any other individual without that individual's explicit permission. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : P.S. I want to be clear that as an organization on one hand and then the evident Fairfield spiritual community on the other hand, neither the TM movement, the meditating University in Fairfield, Iowa, nor does the evident spiritual practice community of Fairfield, Ia. or even FairfieldLife, a spiritual Yahoo-group, do not support or endorse any one candidate over any other candidate in this National election, a general communal premise otherwise being that Natural Law, when enlivened by our group practice of effective meditation, will support the best outcome for a nation. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Notice of an Embargo, something of a road closure.. We are upon 3 weeks now to the US election. It is certainly time with all that is spiritual going on otherwise to reel this place back in some and put an embargo on mundane political bickering that has become exclusive of any spiritual commentary. This is expected of us as a topical (spiritual) Yahoo-group and certainly there are lots of other places for mundane partisan bickering on the internet. Notice and Fair Warning: Until the election day in the USA passes a heavy hand of moderation is going to fall over mundane political postings that come on to FFL with a particular embargo on posts which contain words, ‘Hillary’, ‘Donald’, ‘Clinton’ or ‘Trump’. Writers should take alternate routes (detours) around these words for the next three weeks. There are any number of capable writers posting to FFL. Those who have spiritual observation to offer can easily continue to offer their considerations on FairfieldLife, a Yahoo-group community. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/15/16 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/22/16 00:00:00 109 messages as of (UTC) 10/16/16 23:12:36 26 authfriend 22 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 13 emily.mae50 11 awoelflebater 10 Bhairitu noozguru 5 jr_esq 5 hepa7 4 feste37 4 dhamiltony2k5 3 olliesedwuz 2 Sal Sunshine salsunshineiniowa 1 j_alexander_stanley 1 email4you mikemail4you 1 Dick Mays dickmays 1 Archer Angel archonangel Posters: 15 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 17-Oct-16 00:15:07 UTC
a general communal premise otherwise being that Natural Law, when enlivened by our group practice of effective meditation, will support the best outcome for a nation. If that’s still the prevailing feeling whoever spouts nonsense like that needs to get their head out of their backsides. Voting is crucial. Yep. I would suggest that anyone who has the time and resources travel to the nearest battleground state, rent a hotel room or find a place to stay with friends, and volunteer for the GOTV operation at one of the local Democratic campaign offices. Group meditation is fine and dandy when a crisis point is approaching that ordinary people can do nothing about. But when individual people-power acting on the ground can make a positive difference in the outcome, that is the distinctly preferable option.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 17-Oct-16 00:15:07 UTC
You are quoting Frontlne WY out of context. Who is it that "expects of us" this so-called embargo? Who are the nonparticipants in this group behind the scenes who seek to control what the participating members may and may not say? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Notice of an Embargo, something of a road closure.. -Frontline, at FairfieldLife a (spiritual) Yahoo-group: Not the customary analysis of politics and economics but a conversation about spiritual questions. What did it mean for our spiritual lives?" We are upon 3 weeks now to the US election. It is certainly time with all that is spiritual going on otherwise to reel this place back in some and put an embargo on mundane political bickering that has become exclusive of any spiritual commentary. This is expected of us as a topical (spiritual) Yahoo-group and certainly there are lots of other places for mundane partisan bickering on the internet. Notice and Fair Warning: Until the election day in the USA passes a heavy hand of moderation is going to fall over mundane political postings that come on to FFL with a particular embargo on posts which contain words, ‘Hillary’, ‘Donald’, ‘Clinton’ or ‘Trump’. Writers should take alternate routes (detours) around these words for the next three weeks. There are any number of capable writers posting to FFL. Those who have spiritual observation to offer can easily continue to offer their considerations on FairfieldLife, a Yahoo-group community. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/15/16 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/22/16 00:00:00 109 messages as of (UTC) 10/16/16 23:12:36 26 authfriend 22 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 13 emily.mae50 11 awoelflebater 10 Bhairitu noozguru 5 jr_esq 5 hepa7 4 feste37 4 dhamiltony2k5 3 olliesedwuz 2 Sal Sunshine salsunshineiniowa 1 j_alexander_stanley 1 email4you mikemail4you 1 Dick Mays dickmays 1 Archer Angel archonangel Posters: 15 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
Y'all know that on Saturday Trump accused Hillary of being on drugs for the second debate, right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Yep. Funny when trump was trashing the family of a US soldier who died in the Middle East, playing bad boy with not releasing his taxes, bragging about how smart he was, and how dumb the rest of us were, etc., etc., etc., all of his sycophants and fanboys and girls were as happy as p__s in s__t. The media hung on every word, with Matt Lauer practically wetting himself during an interview with the orange abomination. Now that trump has raised the stakes of his brattiness to include sexual assault against women, everyone coast to coast has had enough, game over. Playing the American people like saps, as trump has in every area of life he enters, isn't a smart idea, and eventually, if you keep pushing the envelope as he did, eventually you will be told in no uncertain terms, to fuck off. This obviously isn't some media and establishment scheme to "get him". He has shown himself to be a worthless, illiterate, disrespectful, low-life sex offender from queens. Who would possibly want such scum for president, except those who think the same way he does? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : No. Trump himself. I listened to him. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : And who told you that? The media? From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes they have. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Hmmm, Republican campaign center in NC gets fire bombed.Cars at a Trump rally spray painted and vandalized, attendees at Trump rallies attacked and beaten. Hmmm, maybe they were inspired by the Trump-supporting Milwaukee county sheriff who announced yesterday that it's "pitchforks and torches time." Or the two openly armed Trump supporters who "protested" by sitting outside a Democratic congressional candidate's office in Virginia for 12 hours on Thursday. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? To repeat: You're losing touch with reality Mikey. Stock up your bunker, go buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse. And, get that manifesto out of your head and on paper. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny deny. Then blame your accusers. Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug. From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? The "delusionals" live in their own dream world. Interesting to see such mass hypnosis. On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: New York Times, July. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Yes they have. No, they haven't. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
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Hillary is not a crook. That's a lie, plain and simple. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : If I'm *losing touch* with reality, at least I've known it. You're voting for a crook, that makes Nixon look like a saint, because she's a *woman*. Now that's living in an alternate universe. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it will briefly make you enjoy this nightmarish election https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma ‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it wi... https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma It’s safe to say that the second presidential debate was weird, uncomfortable, and almost a spoof of itself. The town hall style… View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma Preview by Yahoo You're losing touch with reality Mikey. Stock up your bunker, go buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse. And, get that manifesto out of your head and on paper. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : H, maybe she'll be *deleted*. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? What do you think is the root of prejudice? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders). This country should afford the best in security for her You left out *homophobes.* From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. " . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny deny. Then blame your accusers. Why do you keep saying it's a Saul Alinsky tactic when I've told you now three times that it's a *KARL ROVE* tactic? Here's a real Saul Alinsky tactic from Rules for Radicals, one that Trump has been using to great effect: The job of the organizer is to maneuver and bait the establishment so that it will publicly attack him as a 'dangerous enemy.' The hysterical instant reaction of the establishment [will] not only validate [the organizer's] credentials of competency but also ensure automatic popular invitation. You know that Rules for Radicals has been used to train community activists for the Tea Party, right? Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some claim was a *community organizer* Not just "some," almost everyone. That's because, you know, he was a community organizer. but was actually a crook and a thug. Documentation, please. (Looks like you got this from D'Souza, right?) From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? The "delusionals" live in their own dream world. Interesting to see such mass hypnosis. On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: New York Times, July. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Yes they have. No, they haven't. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk. Documentation, please. Blames the Russians for her E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow the law and use government approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy evidence in an investigation. Five lies in a row. There's no evidence that her emails were hacked, so there's nothing on that score to blame the Russians for. It has actually been the *government-approved" email that was hacked. She didn't lie about her emails, and she didn't try to destroy evidence. She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video for their deaths. Two more lies. Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has seen, flooding Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 1/5 of our countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton Foundation. And another one. Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay for play. And another one. Lies through her teeth. And ANOTHER one. How the F can you believe a word she says? Takes tens of, if not hundreds of millions in donations from countries seeking favors, countries that treat their women like shit and murder their gay population. And the Clinton Foundation does all kinds of good with that money. Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas. Two more lies. This post is a great example of the Karl Rove tactic of accusing the person you oppose of your own misdeeds. Discharge a blizzard of lies about Clinton, and finish up by calling *her* a liar. But hey! She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something! From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? And who told you that? The media? From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or sinister about that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes they have. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : The "delusionals" live in their own dream world. Interesting to see such mass hypnosis. Yes, a lot of people are wondering how Trump has managed to hypnotize so many people into thinking he's presidential material. On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: New York Times, July. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Yes they have. No, they haven't. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : And Hillary can't be trusted with national secrets. The whole world knows them now. ??? Documentation, please. What "national secrets"? Since that's all you could come up with, I'll assume you acknowledge I'm right about everything I said below, and that your claim about the media is silly flapdoodle. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? A couple additional thoughts: Are all the extremely conservative big-city newspapers that have almost always endorsed Republican presidential candidates (some for over a century) but have declined to endorse Trump, declaring him unfit for office, conspiring with Hillary's campaign? It's not just the media. I've lost count of the groups of scores of prominent or eminent Americans--many of them Republicans---who have signed open letters denouncing Trump and, like the newspapers, declaring him unfit for the presidency. And it isn't just his treatment of women. That's actually one of the less important objections compared to his ignorance of international affairs, his racism, his disregard for the Constitution, his near-constant lying. His banana-republic threat to see to it that Hillary is jailed if he's elected should all by itself disqualify him from the presidency. And finally, his attempt to call in question the validity of the election--before it's even taken place--is just beyond the pale of acceptable behavior by a presidential candidate. Seems as though you think the media have been "trying to influence the election" by reporting all these things. They should have kept quiet about them, I guess, and just stuck with dumping on HIllary as they have for decades. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes they have. No, they haven't. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : BTW Judy, in July, the New York Times declared it was the duty of the media to stop Trump. You'll have to do better than that. Give me a URL, or a date. Given the way you twist things, I'll need to see what the Times actually said. You also told me earlier last month that Hillary did *not* support open borders, Yet Wikileaks revealed E-mails in which she declared to a Brazilian bank that she was all for open borders for the western hemisphere. She didn't mean "open borders" for people to immigrate, sorry. She was talking about hemisphere-wide clean energy. Her immigration policy is for increased border security, not open borders. You also told me that Hillary is not a liar but earlier in a post this summer you declared that she doesn't lie any more than any other politician. Either you don't know what she stands for or you're lying for her. Which is it? Either you're lying for Trump, or you have a very poor command of English. Which is it? A liar is someone who habitually lies; she doesn't. Yes, the media does conspire with her. They give her veto power over her quotes that they want to use and advice about how to help her campaign. Documentation, please. How much time has been spent by the media covering the Wikileaks releases? Oh, lots. The Times has a story almost every day. So does Politico. So does WaPo. Not much because it's bad news for her while they will go to the ends of the earth to cover a few women that claim, without proof, to have been *assaulted* by Trump and who's stories have been thoroughly discredited. The media didn't have to go anywhere to find these women; they came out of the woodwork of their own accord, enraged, after Trump denied sexually assaulting women at the second debate. And *none* of their stories so far has been discredited. You keep telling this lie over and over. How many interviews have they done of Clinton's victims? You mean "alleged victims." Back when it was relevant, they were interviewed to death. We can just go back and look at what they said back then. There's no reason to re-interview them. And in any case, Bill Clinton isn't running for president, so they're irrelevant. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
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A couple additional thoughts: Are all the extremely conservative big-city newspapers that have almost always endorsed Republican presidential candidates (some for over a century) but have declined to endorse Trump, declaring him unfit for office, conspiring with Hillary's campaign? It's not just the media. I've lost count of the groups of scores of prominent or eminent Americans--many of them Republicans---who have signed open letters denouncing Trump and, like the newspapers, declaring him unfit for the presidency. And it isn't just his treatment of women. That's actually one of the less important objections compared to his ignorance of international affairs, his racism, his disregard for the Constitution, his near-constant lying. His banana-republic threat to see to it that Hillary is jailed if he's elected should all by itself disqualify him from the presidency. And finally, his attempt to call in question the validity of the election--before it's even taken place--is just beyond the pale of acceptable behavior by a presidential candidate. Seems as though you think the media have been "trying to influence the election" by reporting all these things. They should have kept quiet about them, I guess, and just stuck with dumping on HIllary as they have for decades. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes they have. No, they haven't. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Yes they have. No, they haven't. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Re: [FairfieldLife] Which is It?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : I notice that "I grope women without their consent" is in quotes, which means he actually said those words. Did he? But really, we don't care if he did or not. "It's just sex and he can compartmentalize!" Didn't we establish that with Bill Clinton back in the nineties? Nope. While Democrats deny the allegations against Bill Clinton, by women who have been attacked by Bill, referring to them as tramps and liars, threatening them with lawyers and insisting that they are part of the *vast* right wing conspiracy, they're all too quick to admit that he has a *problem* keeping his hands off of women. Just not these women. So which is it? Stop painting with such a broad brush. We don't know whether any women have been "attacked by Bill," just for one thing. We know a few women have made that claim, but there's no solid evidence. We also know *for a fact* that right-wingers have been trying to take the Clintons down with false accusations ever since they entered public life. BTW, most of these allegations have been thoroughly shot down Absolutely not true. None of them have been shot down so far. and he was a *good* Democrat when he was alleged to have done them and should be considered a good, healthy, red blooded, American male, by the standard set for Bill Clinton. Again the broad brush. Makes defending the Trump monster so much easier when you make such sweeping statements, but they don't reflect the reality. Don't you know that Hillary wishes someone would grope her.. just once! Stay classy, Mike. Just like your candidate. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Which is It?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to stop him They haven't done that. and they conspire with her campaign, They haven't done that either. as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White House. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It? Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very dangerous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Putin Preparing for World War?
Er, John, I believe you meant to address this to Bhairitu, since I'm obviously very well aware of it. Bhairitu's the one who thinks it's "so 1950s" to distrust Russia. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Judy, You'll have to understand that the Russians are playing a dangerous game of political chess with the world and not only with Americans. In the end, their objective is power and money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Bhairitu, My intent was to present interesting news developments in the world, regardless of the source. Assuming that the news is correct, one has to wonder why Putin is recalling his people home. It's probably far fetch to assume that he's doing it all to affect the American election and to tacitly support Trump. So, why is he calling his people home? Why is it far-fetched? The article is clear enough that Putin wants Trump to win: The report comes as a key ally of Putin's warned that Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war. Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker known for his fiery rhetoric, told Reuters in an interview http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/putin-ally-vote-trump/2016/10/13/id/753297/ that Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington. By contrast, Trump's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton could spark World War Three, said Zhirinovsky, who received a top state award from Putin after his pro-Kremlin Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) came third in Russia's parliamentary election last month. Does Putin have an inside scoop on Trump? Or, does he think Trump is clueless in dealing with international affairs? Thus, Putin will step in as the "good" guy against an "ugly" American. But beware of the wolf in sheep's clothing. Putin knows Trump is clueless in dealing with international affairs. Trump is also clueless about who Putin is and what his goals are. Putin wants Trump to think he's Trump's friend and ally so he can steer Trump to take actions favorable to Russia, believing they're all his own idea. At the same time, Putin knows he won't be able to wrap Hillary around his little finger; she's a tough cookie who will do what she thinks is best for the U.S. Of course Putin wants Trump to be president. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Heavens to Betsy, JR! You quoted a "right-wing" news source! Mother Superior Jooday will give you 50 lashes with her ruler. Not that Newsmax is wrong and sources to some of these stories are from Reuters. I linked to a similar story on NBC News yesterday and they can't surely be "right wing" can they? After all they unabashedly support Hillary. But then Hillary seems to be to the right of Donald Trump. She's just good at programming her "bots". Sometimes the concerns of the supposed "right wing" sound like the concerns of "left wing" during the Bush administration. My how times have changed! On 10/15/2016 12:19 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: If that's the case, Putin appears to be backing the wrong candidate. And, Hillary may be correct in saying that the Russians are behind the information from WikiLeaks. Sooner or later, there could be an accident in Syria that could lead to a shootout between the US and Russia. As such, the UN should mandate a no fly zone in Aleppo. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Of course he's trying to influence the election. And note that this "report" is from the extremely right-wing Newsmax. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : Or, is he trying to influence the American election by tacitly endorsing Trump? Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, Recalling Russians to Motherland Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, R... Russian President Vladimir Putin could be prepping for new world war as relations with the United States and other Western countries continue to disintegrate, accor... View on www.newsmax.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Putin Preparing for World War?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Bhairitu, My intent was to present interesting news developments in the world, regardless of the source. Assuming that the news is correct, one has to wonder why Putin is recalling his people home. It's probably far fetch to assume that he's doing it all to affect the American election and to tacitly support Trump. So, why is he calling his people home? Why is it far-fetched? The article is clear enough that Putin wants Trump to win: The report comes as a key ally of Putin's warned that Americans should vote for Donald Trump as president next month or risk being dragged into a nuclear war. Vladimir Zhirinovsky, a flamboyant veteran lawmaker known for his fiery rhetoric, told Reuters in an interview http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/putin-ally-vote-trump/2016/10/13/id/753297/ that Trump was the only person able to de-escalate dangerous tensions between Moscow and Washington. By contrast, Trump's Democratic rival Hillary Clinton could spark World War Three, said Zhirinovsky, who received a top state award from Putin after his pro-Kremlin Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (LDPR) came third in Russia's parliamentary election last month. Does Putin have an inside scoop on Trump? Or, does he think Trump is clueless in dealing with international affairs? Thus, Putin will step in as the "good" guy against an "ugly" American. But beware of the wolf in sheep's clothing. Putin knows Trump is clueless in dealing with international affairs. Trump is also clueless about who Putin is and what his goals are. Putin wants Trump to think he's Trump's friend and ally so he can steer Trump to take actions favorable to Russia, believing they're all his own idea. At the same time, Putin knows he won't be able to wrap Hillary around his little finger; she's a tough cookie who will do what she thinks is best for the U.S. Of course Putin wants Trump to be president. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Heavens to Betsy, JR! You quoted a "right-wing" news source! Mother Superior Jooday will give you 50 lashes with her ruler. Not that Newsmax is wrong and sources to some of these stories are from Reuters. I linked to a similar story on NBC News yesterday and they can't surely be "right wing" can they? After all they unabashedly support Hillary. But then Hillary seems to be to the right of Donald Trump. She's just good at programming her "bots". Sometimes the concerns of the supposed "right wing" sound like the concerns of "left wing" during the Bush administration. My how times have changed! On 10/15/2016 12:19 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: If that's the case, Putin appears to be backing the wrong candidate. And, Hillary may be correct in saying that the Russians are behind the information from WikiLeaks. Sooner or later, there could be an accident in Syria that could lead to a shootout between the US and Russia. As such, the UN should mandate a no fly zone in Aleppo. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Of course he's trying to influence the election. And note that this "report" is from the extremely right-wing Newsmax. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : Or, is he trying to influence the American election by tacitly endorsing Trump? Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, Recalling Russians to Motherland Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, R... Russian President Vladimir Putin could be prepping for new world war as relations with the United States and other Western countries continue to disintegrate, accor... View on www.newsmax.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Putin Preparing for World War?
Bhairitu, this is an idiotic line of attack. When you have to make stuff up out of whole cloth to throw at those who don't agree with you, it's a really good sign you have no arguments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : BTW, I'm wondering why Mother Superior didn't shame Emily when she posted an opinion piece yesterday from Dr. Rosenthal though from the TMO was originally on FoxNews? Big oopsie! On 10/15/2016 12:19 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: If that's the case, Putin appears to be backing the wrong candidate. And, Hillary may be correct in saying that the Russians are behind the information from WikiLeaks. Sooner or later, there could be an accident in Syria that could lead to a shootout between the US and Russia. As such, the UN should mandate a no fly zone in Aleppo. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Of course he's trying to influence the election. And note that this "report" is from the extremely right-wing Newsmax. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : Or, is he trying to influence the American election by tacitly endorsing Trump? Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, Recalling Russians to Motherland Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, R... Russian President Vladimir Putin could be prepping for new world war as relations with the United States and other Western countries continue to disintegrate, accor... View on www.newsmax.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] One Question
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : (snip) Of course we have our resident "shamer" troll who tries shame anyone who has a liberal view if they quote a "right wing source" even if that source is correct. Shame on that troll! Not true, Bhairitu.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For Feste (And Me)
There are oogobs of reasons to fear Trump's election, including (but not limited to) his threat to "tighten up" libel laws and sue the media when he doesn't like what they say about him. There's zero evidence that either Carlos Slim or Jeff Bezos has attempted to slant the WaPo's or the NYTimes' coverage of the candidates. That's just silly right-wing dithering. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : What is more shocking than Donald Trump is the unabashed media bias from the big media companies bashing Trump and supporting Hillary. My guess is they fear that if Donald gets in he'll start breaking up their monopolies. Now that's not exactly "right wing" is it? In fact it's been the left over the years who have criticized this control of our media by a few companies and now a few oligarchs. Carlos Slim, a Mexican oligarch, owns the New York Times. So he probably fears Trump taking away his new pet toy. Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, now owns the Washington Post and he probably fear the Donald taking away his new pet toy. So should we be surprised their lap dogs, fearing loss of their jobs, are required to favor Hillary. Here's an example of how controlled the media has become. If I could take this clip back to the 1950s and show it to the man of the street they'd be shocked and claim that "the communists have taken over America!" Ain't the communism though it's fascism. Whoopi Goldberg is questioning in a non-partisan way what is going on with the media. See what happens: http://investmentwatchblog.com/whoopie-goldberg-on-the-view-cut-off-mid-sentence-by-producers-when-questioning-the-timing-of-all-these-charges-against-trump-and-saying-it-was-very-dangerous-to-ask-these-questions-and-we-are-n/ http://investmentwatchblog.com/whoopie-goldberg-on-the-view-cut-off-mid-sentence-by-producers-when-questioning-the-timing-of-all-these-charges-against-trump-and-saying-it-was-very-dangerous-to-ask-these-questions-and-we-are-n/ Entire segment here and you'll hear Whoopi's mike get cut out just like they would do in a fascist regime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQetDbvApUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQetDbvApUo This is appalling in a country that has long favored free speech. I think we have Civil War 2.0 ahead though they may attempt to preempt it with WW III. On 10/14/2016 11:10 PM, hepa7@... mailto:hepa7@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Donnie wins, Hillary steals?? HILLARY STEALS THIS ELECTION, 2016 LOOKS GRIM. BIBLE CODE REVEALS MORE HILLARY STEALS THIS ELECTION, 2016 LOOKS ... SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO WINS THE ELECTION? i told you months ago this would happenINCREDIBLE DETAILS ENCODED 3200 years ago in... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Putin Preparing for World War?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Heavens to Betsy, JR! You quoted a "right-wing" news source! Mother Superior Jooday will give you 50 lashes with her ruler. Nothing wrong with quoting a right-wing news source as long as its bias is taken into account. Not that Newsmax is wrong and sources to some of these stories are from Reuters. I linked to a similar story on NBC News yesterday and they can't surely be "right wing" can they? Nobody's saying the story isn't true; it's a matter of how it's spun (as you know). Newsmax is spinning it to encourage votes for Trump. After all they unabashedly support Hillary. But then Hillary seems to be to the right of Donald Trump. She's just good at programming her "bots". Sometimes the concerns of the supposed "right wing" sound like the concerns of "left wing" during the Bush administration. My how times have changed! On 10/15/2016 12:19 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: If that's the case, Putin appears to be backing the wrong candidate. And, Hillary may be correct in saying that the Russians are behind the information from WikiLeaks. Sooner or later, there could be an accident in Syria that could lead to a shootout between the US and Russia. As such, the UN should mandate a no fly zone in Aleppo. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Of course he's trying to influence the election. And note that this "report" is from the extremely right-wing Newsmax. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:jr_esq@... wrote : Or, is he trying to influence the American election by tacitly endorsing Trump? Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, Recalling Russians to Motherland Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, R... Russian President Vladimir Putin could be prepping for new world war as relations with the United States and other Western countries continue to disintegrate, accor... View on www.newsmax.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : (snip) There is no evidence that Trump did any of these allegations, just last minute accusations at the end of a political campaign that Democrats are famous for. In fact, the first woman to make the accusations has been totally discredited with her lies and a witness that was there. Turns out this "witness" is not even a tiny bit credible. You really, really wouldn't want me to post this sleazebag's history, but I will if you keep citing his "testimony." BTW, that woman is borderline *ugly*, at least compared to the women in Trump's life. If Trump had a *boner* like Obama was exhibiting on Air-force One to the ladies, he probably would have lost it when he saw her. Stay classy, Mike. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've heard that talk can get pretty crude and often does in the estrogen filled locker rooms. :-D The fascist media coverage of the Presidential campaign is very Shakespearean: much ado about nothing. Character - it actually counts for something. It's not about the 'talk' anymore, Bhari, it's about the actions and the corruptness behind the actions. You trivialize something that is not trivial. Trump believes he has the right to violate others. He believes himself justified in taking whatever he wants. You simply don't get it. You need to work on that. On 10/14/2016 10:30 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bill's accusers came forward immediately. Trumps, as many as thirty years later in the middle of a political campaign with media bending over backwards, trying to discredit him. Hillary can't win on merit or accomplishments and has high negativity rating. All she can do is find a way to make Trump look more negative than her. Locker room talk dude! I don't know, maybe you haven't been around many men in a testosterone filled environment. Can get pretty crude at times and usually does. From: feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 10:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question I think it's glaringly obvious to anyone. In Trump world, Bill's accusers are, of course, to be believed, but those who accuse Trump of similar things are "horrible liars." He omits to note of course, that he himself said that he did those things to women. So they are merely confirming the truth of his words. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote : So, how is Trump's besmirching of his female accusers any different or better or more justified than Hillary's alleged attacks against Bill Clinton's accusers? Does Trump not realize he's doing the exact same thing he accuses his opponent of? I haven't seen this point made anywhere in the media yet. What the hell? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Coming forward doesn't mean going *public*. (horselaugh) Oh. Well, OK, if "coming forward" no longer means "going public," but rather "told friends about it," many of Trump's accusers did exactly that shortly, or immediately, after their encounter with Trump. You can't have your cake and eat it too, sorry. Juanita Broaderrick had witnesses that saw her ripped panty hose and swollen lip right after the attack. And she attended a Clinton fundraiser three weeks later. Also submitted an affidavit in the Paula Jones case denying Clinton had made any sexual advances. She later recanted her denial when she was asked by the FBI. The Courts ordered Clinton to pay Paula Jones around $800,000 dollars. Nope. Clinton offered to settle the suit for $850,000, and she accepted. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Bill's accusers came forward immediately. Not true. Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones didn't go public for five years. Juanita Broaddrick, for 20 years. Most of Trump's accusers came out much less than 30 years later. Trumps, as many as thirty years later in the middle of a political campaign with media bending over backwards, trying to discredit him. Hillary can't win on merit or accomplishments and has high negativity rating. All she can do is find a way to make Trump look more negative than her. Locker room talk dude! I don't know, maybe you haven't been around many men in a testosterone filled environment. Can get pretty crude at times and usually does. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 10:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question I think it's glaringly obvious to anyone. In Trump world, Bill's accusers are, of course, to be believed, but those who accuse Trump of similar things are "horrible liars." He omits to note of course, that he himself said that he did those things to women. So they are merely confirming the truth of his words. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, how is Trump's besmirching of his female accusers any different or better or more justified than Hillary's alleged attacks against Bill Clinton's accusers? Does Trump not realize he's doing the exact same thing he accuses his opponent of? I haven't seen this point made anywhere in the media yet. What the hell? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers
[FairfieldLife] Re: For Feste (And Me)
Dear Doug, It's OK, you can use my name and attack me directly instead of Card. Be brave! We could actually have a discussion, you know. Card hasn't been fighting with anybody; it's not right to attack him when you're really angry with me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Dear Card, were I an Am football referee I should catch up and throw a penalty flag at you, or in other sport give you a yellow card, or some measure of sport time out for ‘sticking’ in your ‘piling on’ with this recent post you have given us here on FFL, a spiritual Yahoo-group community,. Here we have members who are openly down, declaring they are suffering, “I've suffered..” with an evident spiritual aggravation in this thread.. We had another one leave recently over unnecessary roughness. Then in this boxing post with its subject heading and opening line appears something like not just clenching in boxing, punching kidneys whilst you gots a grip on them, but more nearly as striking them as they are going down or a piling on as would be in Am football. With this kind of posting, contending hurt of people, the next thing we will see is someone more reactive maybe with less self-moderation here coming in here giving us 67 mundane posts fighting contending ‘..is not a thief’, name-calling ‘Card-poo..You are a liar’. Then we’ll have someone new coming to read the community wonder it all needs moderation. As one moderator of Yahoo-group civility I would ask, in those words of Jonathan Winter’s in The Russians are Coming, “Let’s get organized here..” “Why can’t we just get along?” I should ask that we collectively reach for kindness and self-moderation in the posting here in fellowship of sharing with members of the FFL group. JaiGuruYou. Feste confesses, I've suffered from Trump Anxiety for months,” Back_formore adds..”I can certainly relate.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/10/13/people-are-so-stressed-by-this-election-that-the-american-psychological-association-has-coping-tips/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2016/10/13/people-are-so-stressed-by-this-election-that-the-american-psychological-association-has-coping-tips/ The Russians are coming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBp2vodDTk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBp2vodDTk The Russians are coming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBp2vodDTk A piece from my favorite movie. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WBp2vodDTk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Donnie wins, Hillary steals?? HILLARY STEALS THIS ELECTION, 2016 LOOKS GRIM. BIBLE CODE REVEALS MORE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmqpvcMFmzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmqpvcMFmzM HILLARY STEALS THIS ELECTION, 2016 LOOKS ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmqpvcMFmzM SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO WINS THE ELECTION? i told you months ago this would happenINCREDIBLE DETAILS ENCODED 3200 years ago in... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmqpvcMFmzM Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Bill's accusers came forward immediately. Not true. Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones didn't go public for five years. Juanita Broaddrick, for 20 years. Most of Trump's accusers came out much less than 30 years later. Trumps, as many as thirty years later in the middle of a political campaign with media bending over backwards, trying to discredit him. Hillary can't win on merit or accomplishments and has high negativity rating. All she can do is find a way to make Trump look more negative than her. Locker room talk dude! I don't know, maybe you haven't been around many men in a testosterone filled environment. Can get pretty crude at times and usually does. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 10:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question I think it's glaringly obvious to anyone. In Trump world, Bill's accusers are, of course, to be believed, but those who accuse Trump of similar things are "horrible liars." He omits to note of course, that he himself said that he did those things to women. So they are merely confirming the truth of his words. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, how is Trump's besmirching of his female accusers any different or better or more justified than Hillary's alleged attacks against Bill Clinton's accusers? Does Trump not realize he's doing the exact same thing he accuses his opponent of? I haven't seen this point made anywhere in the media yet. What the hell? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Putin Preparing for World War?
Of course he's trying to influence the election. And note that this "report" is from the extremely right-wing Newsmax. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Or, is he trying to influence the American election by tacitly endorsing Trump? Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, Recalling Russians to Motherland http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/putin-preparing-for-global/2016/10/13/id/753319/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/putin-preparing-for-global/2016/10/13/id/753319/ Report: Putin Possibly Readying for World War, R... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/putin-preparing-for-global/2016/10/13/id/753319/ Russian President Vladimir Putin could be prepping for new world war as relations with the United States and other Western countries continue to disintegrate, accor... View on www.newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/putin-preparing-for-global/2016/10/13/id/753319/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: CIA Prepping for Cyber Attack on Russia
Probably the kind of idiots who won't do anything that would lead to the whole Internet becoming unreliable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Oh great! You think that Yahoo has problems now just wait because if this starts the whole Internet will become unreliable. And people with be pissed! What kind of idiots do we have running US government? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n36 http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n36 Note the mainstream news source. It's not a conspiracy theory.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Snopes
This must be a really old article. There has been no mystery about who runs the site since I started using it many years ago. About snopes.com http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp About snopes.com http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp The snopes.com website was founded by David Mikkelson, who lives and works in the Los Angeles area. View on www.snopes.com http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : -Original Message- From: Don Loos To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sent: Fri, Oct 14, 2016 7:12 pm Subject: Fwd: Snopes DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON sNOPES! Snopes Got Snoped http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/549519_400684293325790_831357802_n.jpg Snopes is run by a man and a woman with no background in investigation using Google. Snopes.com has been considered the 'tell-all final word' on any comment, claim and email. Once negative article by them and people point and say, "See, I told you it wasn't true!" But what is Snopes? What are their methods and training that gives them the authority to decide what is true and what is not? For several years people have tried to find out who exactly was behind the website Snopes.com. Only recently did they get to the bottom of it. Are you ready for this? It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators scouring public records in Washington, no researchers studying historical stacks in libraries, no team of lawyers reaching a consensus on current caselaw. No, Snopes.com is just a mom-and-pop operation that was started by two people who have absolutely no formal background or experience in investigative research. http://worldtruth.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/102210_1614_somuchforsn11.png David and Barbara Mikkelson pictured above; are from San Fernando Valley of California. They started their website 'Snopes' about 13 years ago. After a few years it began gaining popularity as people believed it to be unbiased and neutral. But over the past couple of years people started asking questions when 'Snopes' was proven wrong in a number of their conclusions. There were also criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues, but rather asserting their beliefs in controversial issues. In 2008, State Farm agent Bud Gregg hoisted a political sign in Mandeville, Louisiana referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet. The Mikkelson's were quick to "research" this issue and post their condemnation of it on Snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Mr. Gregg into taking down the sign. In fact, nothing of the sort ever took place. A friend of Mr. Gregg personally contacted David Mikkelson to alert him of the factual inacuracy, leaving him Mr. Gregg's contact phone numbers. Mr. Mikkelson was told that Mr. Gregg would give him the phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would inform them that they had never pressured Mr. Gregg to take down his sign. But the Mikkelson's never called Mr. Gregg. In fact, Mr. Gregg found out that no one from Snopes.com had ever contacted any one with State Farm. Yet, Snopes.com has kept their false story of Mr. Gregg up to this day, as the "final factual word" on the issue. What is behind Snopes' selfish motivation? A simple review of their "fact-checking" reveals a strong tendency to explain away criticisms towards liberal politicians and public figures while giving conservatives the hatchet job. Religious stories and issues are similarly shown no mercy. With the "main-stream" media quickly losing all credibility with their fawning treatment of President Obama, Snopes is being singled out, along with MSNBC and others, as being particularly biased and agenda-modivated. So if you really want to know the truth about a story or a rumor you have heard, by all means do not go to Snopes.com! You could do just as well if you were a liberal with an internet connection. Don't go to wikipedia.com http://wikipedia.com either as their team of amateur editors have also been caught in a number of bold-faced liberal-biased untruths. (Such as Wikigate http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/12/20/climate-cultist-william-connolley-sabotages-wikipedia/ and their religious treatment of Obama http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/17/andy-martin-wikipedia-is_n_396003.html.) Take anything these sites say with a grain of salt and an understanding that they are written by people with a motive to criticize all things conservative. Use them only to lead you to solid references where you can read their sources for yourself. Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do.
[FairfieldLife] Re: One Question
Just found another mention of this, in an article in TheAtlantic.com: One spectacular irony in all of this is how Trump’s tactics mirror the criticism he’s lobbed at his opponent. In the second presidential debate, he claimed Hillary Clinton “attacked” the women who accused her husband of sexual assault, “and attacked them viciously.” Hillary Clinton has defended her husband, but there’s little evidence http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-hillary-clinton-viciously-attack/ to support Trump’s broader claim. Donald Trump’s Warning for Women http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/donald-trumps-warning-for-women/504251/ Donald Trump’s Warning for Women http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/donald-trumps-warning-for-women/504251/ The Republican nominee is doubling down on his attacks against those who have accused him of sexual assault. View on www.theatlantic.com http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/donald-trumps-warning-for-women/504251/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : You're right. It hadn't occurred to me--I guess because it was so obvious--but Parton's column is the only place I've seen the point made explicitly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Heather Digby Parton made the point in an article on Salon today, after quoting Trump: That's right, the same man who staged a televised stunt just four days ago in which he sanctimoniously slammed Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for supposedly trashing the reputations of assault victims, stood before the cameras and trashed the reputations of assault victims. Thanks for that, Judy. It is such a simple observation to make I was wondering why it wasn't being used constantly as this whole sordid drama plays out. Two speeches that defined a campaign: Donald Trump’s conspiratorial ranting and Michelle Obama’s inspiring call for decency http://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/two-speeches-that-defined-a-campaign-donald-trumps-conspiratorial-ranting-and-michelle-obamas-inspiring-call-for-decency/ http://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/two-speeches-that-defined-a-campaign-donald-trumps-conspiratorial-ranting-and-michelle-obamas-inspiring-call-for-decency/ Two speeches that defined a campaign: Donald Trump’s... http://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/two-speeches-that-defined-a-campaign-donald-trumps-conspiratorial-ranting-and-michelle-obamas-inspiring-call-for-decency/ Trump's dog-whistle diatribe was this campaign's darkest hour, while Michelle Obama's speech was its finest View on www.salon.com http://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/two-speeches-that-defined-a-campaign-donald-trumps-conspiratorial-ranting-and-michelle-obamas-inspiring-call-for-decency/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So, how is Trump's besmirching of his female accusers any different or better or more justified than Hillary's alleged attacks against Bill Clinton's accusers? Does Trump not realize he's doing the exact same thing he accuses his opponent of? I haven't seen this point made anywhere in the media yet. What the hell? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yet another woman groped by Trump...oh wait, that's not a woman...
Two more actual women have come out with stories of Trump groping them: Two more women say Donald Trump sexually assaulted them: “It was very random, very nonchalant” http://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/another-woman-says-donald-trump-sexually-assaulted-her-it-was-very-random-very-nonchalant/ http://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/another-woman-says-donald-trump-sexually-assaulted-her-it-was-very-random-very-nonchalant/ Two more women say Donald Trump sexually assaulted ... http://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/another-woman-says-donald-trump-sexually-assaulted-her-it-was-very-random-very-nonchalant/ When Donald Trump said he could just "grab a woman by the" crotch, he may have meant more than he said VIDEO View on www.salon.com http://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/another-woman-says-donald-trump-sexually-assaulted-her-it-was-very-random-very-nonchalant/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,wrote : Rudy Guliani is one of Trump's closest advisors. Here is one of their first encounters. Rudy Giuliani in Drag Smooching Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8=youtu.be Rudy Giuliani in Drag Smooching Donald Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8=youtu.be Yes, it's former NYC mayor Rody Giuliani in drag having his "breasts" shamelessly violated by "Apprentice" tycoon Donald Trump. Clip from ne... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8=youtu.be Preview by Yahoo