[FairfieldLife] Subliminal advertising

2013-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
As a person of the Buddhistic persuasion, I've always been fascinated by
advertising. It is, after all, the intentional attempt to implant
desire in people, and as most know, many Buddhists tend to believe that
desires -- or at the very least the attachment to one's desires -- is
ego-binding, and thus not completely desirable.

Still, ya gotta appreciate the creativity with which some ad people
implant subliminal messages into seemingly innocuous ads, to hopefully
trigger equally subliminal desires, and thus sell more of the product.
As an example, have you found yourself eating at Wendy's more often
these days? They don't have them here in France, but as I remember, they
actually had salads and foods that even a vegetarian could enjoy. But is
their cooking *really* like Mom's?

http://stocklogos.com/topic/hidden-message-new-wendys-logo
http://stocklogos.com/topic/hidden-message-new-wendys-logo







[FairfieldLife] Tyrannosaurus Was Active Predator!

2013-07-16 Thread salyavin808
I'm sure you'll all be as relieved to hear this as I was. They are just
so much *cooler* that way..
T rex tooth found embedded in prey, restoring dinosaur's reputation
Tooth lodged in plant-eating dinosaur's spine proves that T rex wasn't
just a scavenger but also hunted live prey

  [Tyrannosaurus rex (T rex) eats a dead Triceratops] New evidence
suggests T rex was capable of bringing down live prey rather than simply
scavenging dinosaur carcasses. Photograph: Corey Ford/Corbis
Threats to the fearsome reputation of Tyrannosaurus rex appeared to have
been seen off on Monday by fresh evidence unearthed in the US.

The dinosaur's feeding habits have long been debated by academics, with
some claiming that T rex was less a ferocious hunter and more a
lumbering slowcoach that scavenged the carcasses of beasts that had died
at the claws of others.

The latest evidence comes from palaeontologists who found remnants of a
prehistoric skirmish in a slab of rock at the Hell Creek Formation in
South Dakota. The clash, which occurred around 66m years ago, involved a
T rexand a large, plant-eating hadrosaur, and ended with the tooth of
the former lodged firmly in the spine of the latter.

Scans of the tooth and two surrounding tail vertebrae showed clear signs
of bone healing around the wound, taken as proof that the hadrosaur was
alive at the time of the attack and survived for several months or even
years afterwards.

This is unambiguous evidence that T rex was an active predator, the
authors write in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of
Sciences http://www.pnas.org/cgi/doi/10.1073/pnas.1216534110 . Such
evidence is rare in the fossil record for good reason – prey rarely
escapes.

Tyrannosaurs shed their teeth frequently as fresh sets came through. In
this case a weaker rear tooth broke free as the T rex, which was not
fully-grown, chomped on the hadrosaur's tail. The hadrosaur is believed
to have been an adult Edmontosaur, which grew to around 10 metres in
length.
  [T rex tooth embedded between hadrosaur vertebrae] The tooth crown is
embedded between two hadrosaur vertebrae and the bone has healed over.
Photograph: David A Burnham
We not only have a broken-off tooth embedded in the bone of another
animal, but the bone has healed over the wound, and a nasty wound it was
too, said David Burnham at Palm Beach Museum of Natural History
http://www.pbmnh.org/researchandcollections/DepartmentofPaleontology.ht\
m  in Florida.

The remains join a large collection of fossils
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/fossils  that tell their own partial
stories about the dining habits of T rex. Previous discoveries reveal
rake, puncture and chew marks on bones, while one specimen – an
impressive half-metre of fossilised faeces
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v393/n6686/full/393680a0.html 
– contained partly digested dinosaur bones. In all of these cases,
it is hard to differentiate between predation and scavenging.

Palaeontologists expressed mixed reactions to the latest findings. Jack
Horner at the Museum of the Rockies in Montana
http://www.montana.edu/wwwes/facstaff/horner.htm , who served as
technical adviser on the Jurassic Park movies, said: This one piece of
evidence does seem to suggest that a tyrannosaur bit a hadrosaur, but
certainly doesn't provide any indication of the sort of carnivore the
rex actually was.

In 2011 Horner and his team reported that T rex was probably an
opportunistic carnivore like hyena, which take carrion and occasional
live prey. This paper certainly offers no evidence to refute that
hypothesis, Horner added.

Paul Barrett
http://www.nhm.ac.uk/research-curation/about-science/staff-directory/ea\
rth-sciences/p-barrett/index.html , a dinosaur researcher at the
Natural History Museum in London, expressed exasperation that the debate
was still ongoing. The whole T rexscavenger or predator debate is
pretty intractable and not particularly enlightening. Work on living
carnivores, like big cats and wolves, clearly show they use both
strategies depending on what's available to them. They'll generally make
do with a meal from either source if it satisfies their dietary needs.
Any other extinct carnivore, including T rex, is likely to have been the
same, he said.

This paper shows without question that a T rex bit a living hadrosaur,
but it can't show if this was a regular behaviour or not, or even if
this was hunting behaviour rather than some other kind of interaction,
he added.

But Sam Turvey
http://www.zsl.org/science/ioz-staff-students/dr-samuel-turvey/ , a
senior research fellow at the Institute of Zoology
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/zoology  in London, called it
important and convincing new evidence. Even though T rex may have fed
on carcasses when the opportunity arose – a behaviour also seen in
modern-day carnivorous large mammals such as lions – the new
findings provide strong evidence that these iconic dinosaurs
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/dinosaurs  were fully 

[FairfieldLife] I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
chatrooms of New Age thought. 

Let's see what people here think of it:

http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/





[FairfieldLife] Re: I was going to remember to post about this, but I forgot...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
Oh - yeah, OK. Good one - kind of like Momento, The Bar. I speak about as much 
french as a wine bottle label. I still think you oughta go in, if you operate 
from a base of fear, though. Bottoms up! :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Kinda like when I see some vintage car on the road. 
  I enjoy just looking at it. Don't have to get in.
  
  If you operate from a dynamic of fear, you *must* 
  visit the bar, imo. If not, who (the fuck) cares, 
  right?
 
 Lighten up, Jimbo. My comment was a joke, albeit
 a bilingual one and possibly not very accessible.
 Oublier = to forget, and an oubliette was an 
 old type of prison in which they threw people to 
 be forgotten.
 
 I was just having fun trying to imagine a bar in
 which every time you went there you had a great
 time, but afterwards you could never remember 
 going there, so for all you know it could be the
 same great time over and over again. :-)
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   In my new 'hood in Paris there is a bar called Le 
   caveau des Oubliettes. Every time I walk past it, 
   I think, Wow. That place looks *fascinating*. I 
   should definitely stop and have a drink in there.
   
   Strangely enough, however, I cannot find any memory 
   of ever having followed up on this thought, and no 
   memory of having been in the place at all.
   
   Is that bad?
   
   :-)
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create our 
reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts. 

Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and looping of 
energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind. This then leads 
to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.

The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and intentions, and 
subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless enough about her inner 
state of mind, resulting in this ego-based drivel.

More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you agreed 
with this half-baked article.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
 the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
 was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
 chatrooms of New Age thought. 
 
 Let's see what people here think of it:
 
 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/





[FairfieldLife] That time that America gave a whistleblower asylum

2013-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
Great little gotcha article from Gawker, which points
out the hypocrisy of the US government getting all pissy
because other countries want to give Ed Snowdon immunity
for blowing the whistle on America's tendency to spy on
EVERYBODY, including its own citizens. 

http://gawker.com/790162223

I love the part where they find the Iowa Republican 
Senator's comments about Snowdon recently, and place 
them side-by-side with his comments about Christopher
Meili only 16 years ago.





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@...
wrote:

 I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our
 thoughts create our reality. Not just the positive,
 affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts.

Interesting. Does that mean that during the seven months
you were posting to FFL as 'enlightened_dawn11' and pre-
tending to be a woman you actually *became* a woman?
That must have been fascinating for you. How did you
find shoes that fit you?  :-)  :-)  :-)

 Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is
 the spinning and looping of energy that creates most
 of the resonance in a non-stop mind. This then leads to
 their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.

 The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts
 and intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But
 she is clueless enough about her inner state of mind,
 resulting in this ego-based drivel.

 More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself
 very well, if you agreed with this half-baked article.

  [Enlightenment]


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
  the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
  was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
  chatrooms of New Age thought.
 
  Let's see what people here think of it:
 
 
http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
reality-stupid/
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
No, it really means just what I said. If the mind is spinning constantly, and 
never given a break from its thoughts, each thought is weak. The personality 
that emerges from such a mind is chaotic, despite its most fervent intentions 
to be otherwise.

However, if thoughts are used appropriately, and sparingly, as vehicles of 
power, and focus, then there is a much greater chance of our reflecting into 
the world who we truly are, and want to be. Otherwise, we give away our 
birthright, and live pot-luck.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our
  thoughts create our reality. Not just the positive,
  affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts.
 
 Interesting. Does that mean that during the seven months
 you were posting to FFL as 'enlightened_dawn11' and pre-
 tending to be a woman you actually *became* a woman?
 That must have been fascinating for you. How did you
 find shoes that fit you?  :-)  :-)  :-)
 
  Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is
  the spinning and looping of energy that creates most
  of the resonance in a non-stop mind. This then leads to
  their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.
 
  The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts
  and intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But
  she is clueless enough about her inner state of mind,
  resulting in this ego-based drivel.
 
  More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself
  very well, if you agreed with this half-baked article.
 
   [Enlightenment]
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
   the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
   was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
   chatrooms of New Age thought.
  
   Let's see what people here think of it:
  
  
 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
 reality-stupid/
  
 





[FairfieldLife] The human brain

2013-07-16 Thread turquoiseb

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Re: [FairfieldLife] I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Share Long
Loved it, turq, thanks for posting. I appreciate the subtle and practical 
distinctions the author makes here. Favorite bit: accept the fixed, work with 
the fluid. And actually, just about every article listed on the left looked 
worth at least a glance. Might have to sign up. Hope Nabby doesn't get too 
upset with me (-:




 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:53 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 


  
A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
chatrooms of New Age thought. 

Let's see what people here think of it:

http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Loved it, turq, thanks for posting. I appreciate the subtle
 and practical distinctions the author makes here. Favorite
 bit: accept the fixed, work with the fluid.

That's a new one for ya, huh? Well, better late than
never.

 And actually, just about every article listed on the left
 looked worth at least a glance. Might have to sign up. Hope
 Nabby doesn't get too upset with me (-:

I'm tempted to post the list here, but anyone who's
interested can just click the link below and see for
themselves. ;-)

 
  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:53 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
 A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
 the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
 was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
 chatrooms of New Age thought.

Oh, and a really snappy phrase from FFL's writer-in-
residence: stale cyber-chatrooms of New Age thought.

(cough, cough)

Barry tells us he never goes back to revise what he
writes. That's fortunate; if he did, we might be
deprived of gems like the above.


 Let's see what people here think of it:
 
 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create our 
 reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts. 
 
 Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and looping 
 of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind. This then 
 leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.
 
 The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and intentions, and 
 subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless enough about her inner 
 state of mind, resulting in this ego-based drivel.
 
 More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you agreed 
 with this half-baked article.

He likes this because she sorta writes like Barry. She even ends it with one of 
his more hackneyed lines I dare you.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
  the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
  was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
  chatrooms of New Age thought. 
  
  Let's see what people here think of it:
  
  http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/
 





[FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread Ann
So, now that Barry is barraging us with small distractions in the form of 
advertisements, jokes and New Age articles what about that misleading post, eh? 
What do you have to say about your manipulative nasty post message of a 
couple of days ago? 

As I thought - nothing. Because you lack the spine to ever address what you do 
when it involves manipulation and lying. You simply pointed that crooked finger 
of yours at everyone for taking exception to the fact that you knowingly told a 
bunch of big fat lies. You are, interestingly, despicable.  Funny how you 
gravitate to a couple of kid's flicks that are named, appropriately enough, 
Despicable Me. Maybe some deeper, Buddhist part of your overworked brain 
recognizes yourself in that title. 

Wanna talk about it? I dare you.



Re: [FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Jackson
Barry has crooked fingers?





 From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around
 


  
So, now that Barry is barraging us with small distractions in the form of 
advertisements, jokes and New Age articles what about that misleading post, eh? 
What do you have to say about your manipulative nasty post message of a 
couple of days ago? 

As I thought - nothing. Because you lack the spine to ever address what you do 
when it involves manipulation and lying. You simply pointed that crooked finger 
of yours at everyone for taking exception to the fact that you knowingly told a 
bunch of big fat lies. You are, interestingly, despicable.  Funny how you 
gravitate to a couple of kid's flicks that are named, appropriately enough, 
Despicable Me. Maybe some deeper, Buddhist part of your overworked brain 
recognizes yourself in that title. 

Wanna talk about it? I dare you.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:

 Barry has crooked fingers?

Cut her some slack, Michael. Ann's having a hard day:


 
  From: Ann awoelflebater@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around

 So, now that Barry is barraging us with small distractions in the form
of advertisements, jokes and New Age articles what about that misleading
post, eh? What do you have to say about your manipulative nasty post
message of a couple of days ago?

 As I thought - nothing. Because you lack the spine to ever address
what you do when it involves manipulation and lying. You simply pointed
that crooked finger of yours at everyone for taking exception to the
fact that you knowingly told a bunch of big fat lies. You are,
interestingly, despicable.  Funny how you gravitate to a couple of kid's
flicks that are named, appropriately enough, Despicable Me. Maybe some
deeper, Buddhist part of your overworked brain recognizes yourself in
that title.

 Wanna talk about it? I dare you.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread Richard J. Williams


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
 
  Barry has crooked fingers?
 
 Cut her some slack, Michael. Ann's having a hard day:
 
Uh oh, somebody's button just got pushed. LoL! 
 

  
   From: Ann awoelflebater@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:57 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around
 
  So, now that Barry is barraging us with small distractions in the form
 of advertisements, jokes and New Age articles what about that misleading
 post, eh? What do you have to say about your manipulative nasty post
 message of a couple of days ago?
 
  As I thought - nothing. Because you lack the spine to ever address
 what you do when it involves manipulation and lying. You simply pointed
 that crooked finger of yours at everyone for taking exception to the
 fact that you knowingly told a bunch of big fat lies. You are,
 interestingly, despicable.  Funny how you gravitate to a couple of kid's
 flicks that are named, appropriately enough, Despicable Me. Maybe some
 deeper, Buddhist part of your overworked brain recognizes yourself in
 that title.
 
  Wanna talk about it? I dare you.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Subliminal advertising

2013-07-16 Thread Richard J. Williams

turquoiseb:
 As a person of the Buddhistic persuasion, I've always been
 fascinated by advertising.

One of the last things the historical did Buddha before he passed
away was to instruct Ananda to raise a stupa at the crossroads
in order to remind people of Enlightenment. Apparently the
idea' worked in your case. Go figure.

Does outdoor advertising work?

Just did!

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupa
 It is, after all, the intentional attempt to implant desire
 in people, and as most know, many Buddhists tend to believe
 that desires -- or at the very least the attachment to one's
 desires -- is ego-binding, and thus not completely desirable.

Let's note here that a desire to be rid of desire is a desire.

The answer to this riddle is the Buddha's Middle Way; don't
desire to not desire to extremes.

A stupa is a circular dome with a series of fences surrounding
it, arranged in traditional patterns with a harmika and an
umbrella on the top.

For example, the Great Buddhist Stupa at Sanch:.

Edifice architecture and the Axis-mundi:
http://rwilliams.us/archives/analogia.htm
http://rwilliams.us/archives/analogia.htm

 Still, ya gotta appreciate the creativity with which some ad
 people implant subliminal messages into seemingly innocuous
 ads, to hopefully trigger equally subliminal desires, and
 thus sell more of the product.

The posters you put up for MMY and Rama should have said
something about this instead of promising enlightenment in
5-7 years or instant enlightenment. LoL!

You are only going to get as much enlightenment as you are
going to get.

 As an example, have you found yourself eating at Wendy's
 more often these days? They don't have them here in France,
 but as I remember, they actually had salads and foods that
 even a vegetarian could enjoy. But is their cooking *really*
 like Mom's?

Now that's better!



[FairfieldLife] Gary Weber: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 07/16/2013

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 Barry has crooked fingers?

I love you MJ: his fingers are the least of his crooked problems!
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Ann awoelflebater@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around
  
 
 
   
 So, now that Barry is barraging us with small distractions in the form of 
 advertisements, jokes and New Age articles what about that misleading post, 
 eh? What do you have to say about your manipulative nasty post message of a 
 couple of days ago? 
 
 As I thought - nothing. Because you lack the spine to ever address what you 
 do when it involves manipulation and lying. You simply pointed that crooked 
 finger of yours at everyone for taking exception to the fact that you 
 knowingly told a bunch of big fat lies. You are, interestingly, despicable.  
 Funny how you gravitate to a couple of kid's flicks that are named, 
 appropriately enough, Despicable Me. Maybe some deeper, Buddhist part of 
 your overworked brain recognizes yourself in that title. 
 
 Wanna talk about it? I dare you.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Share Long
Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about noticing 
thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get rid of them, etc. 
I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way of quieting the mind. And 
she doesn't say to only notice one kind of thought or feeling. I don't see how 
you and she disagree.





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 


  
I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create our 
reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts. 

Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and looping of 
energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind. This then leads 
to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.

The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and intentions, and 
subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless enough about her inner 
state of mind, resulting in this ego-based drivel.

More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you agreed 
with this half-baked article.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
 the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
 was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
 chatrooms of New Age thought. 
 
 Let's see what people here think of it:
 
 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
 
  Barry has crooked fingers?
 
 Cut her some slack, Michael. Ann's having a hard day:

So perfect Barry, you have once again deflected all responsibility onto others. 
You are as spineless as you are predictable. But I had to at least give you a 
chance to explain yourself - and you did.
 
 
  
   From: Ann awoelflebater@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:57 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around
 
  So, now that Barry is barraging us with small distractions in the form
 of advertisements, jokes and New Age articles what about that misleading
 post, eh? What do you have to say about your manipulative nasty post
 message of a couple of days ago?
 
  As I thought - nothing. Because you lack the spine to ever address
 what you do when it involves manipulation and lying. You simply pointed
 that crooked finger of yours at everyone for taking exception to the
 fact that you knowingly told a bunch of big fat lies. You are,
 interestingly, despicable.  Funny how you gravitate to a couple of kid's
 flicks that are named, appropriately enough, Despicable Me. Maybe some
 deeper, Buddhist part of your overworked brain recognizes yourself in
 that title.
 
  Wanna talk about it? I dare you.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
  
   Barry has crooked fingers?

Yes, indeed, the fingers Barry uses to point at his
enemies are as crooked as pretzels, and if you look
closely, you'll find they end up pointing back at
himself.

  Cut her some slack, Michael. Ann's having a hard day:
  
 Uh oh, somebody's button just got pushed. LoL!

Sure did. Barry's had a long run of exceptionally hard
days, a couple of weeks' worth at least, every one of
them created by Barry himself. His buttons are *very*
sore at this point, and the more people call attention
to his misbehavior, the more excruciating is his
discomfort.

As Ann notes, his recent barrage of jokes and funny ads
and New Age articles and lighthearted conversations with
Share are all an attempt to bury what he doesn't want
anyone to think about, the recent catastrophes he has
brought on himself.

I just wanted to add one point to Ann's expert analysis.
Not only was Barry's accusation of his enemies' purported
obsession with posters who had long left the forum a lie,
it was a lie that did what I described above: it pointed
right back at him.

As it turns out--we all pretty much knew this already--
it's Barry who obsesses, not us. The same source that
provided Barry with the statistics whose import he so
deliberately mischaracterized, Yahoo Advanced Search,
gives us a statistic that *accurately* characterizes his
own behavior, the very behavior of which he falsely
accuses his enemies.

Just since Robin's last post here on April 6, Barry has
made *75* posts mentioning Robin--*most of them* original
mentions, and *most of them* vicious attacks on Robin.

If you're skeptical, it's easy to prove:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/msearch?date=afterDM=3DD=5DY=2013DM2=DD2=DY2=AM=containsAT=turquoisebSM=containsST=MM=containsMT=robincharset=UTF-8

http://tinyurl.com/o2afqx3

This link will take you to the Yahoo Advanced Search list
of those posts, with a few lines from each highlighting the
mention. In most cases you can tell from those few lines
that the post was an attack; with others you'd have to
click on the post title and read the post itself to see.

The link is to just the first page of 10 hits; there's a
total of eight pages.

XENO, you might want to think about going through them
and finding any that do *not* fit the characterization
of obsessive Robin-hatred (you'd quote only those, and
there wouldn't be too many). Seems like the perfect job
for you after your analysis of Judy's mentions of Curtis.

   
From: Ann awoelflebater@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:57 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around
  
   So, now that Barry is barraging us with small distractions in the form
  of advertisements, jokes and New Age articles what about that misleading
  post, eh? What do you have to say about your manipulative nasty post
  message of a couple of days ago?
  
   As I thought - nothing. Because you lack the spine to ever address
  what you do when it involves manipulation and lying. You simply pointed
  that crooked finger of yours at everyone for taking exception to the
  fact that you knowingly told a bunch of big fat lies. You are,
  interestingly, despicable.  Funny how you gravitate to a couple of kid's
  flicks that are named, appropriately enough, Despicable Me. Maybe some
  deeper, Buddhist part of your overworked brain recognizes yourself in
  that title.
  
   Wanna talk about it? I dare you.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread Ann

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
 
  Barry has crooked fingers?

 Cut her some slack, Michael. Ann's having a hard day:
  [30_bliss.jpg]


  
   From: Ann awoelflebater@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:57 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Usual Run Around
 
  So, now that Barry is barraging us with small distractions in the
form
 of advertisements, jokes and New Age articles what about that
misleading
 post, eh? What do you have to say about your manipulative nasty post
 message of a couple of days ago?
 
  As I thought - nothing. Because you lack the spine to ever address
 what you do when it involves manipulation and lying. You simply
pointed
 that crooked finger of yours at everyone for taking exception to the
 fact that you knowingly told a bunch of big fat lies. You are,
 interestingly, despicable.  Funny how you gravitate to a couple of
kid's
 flicks that are named, appropriately enough, Despicable Me. Maybe
some
 deeper, Buddhist part of your overworked brain recognizes yourself in
 that title.
 
  Wanna talk about it? I dare you.
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread Share Long
Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever he may 
have said or not said to you in private weeks ago...There is no basis for you 
to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of *dishonest place* 
doesn't make sense to me! 



 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 
snip

  
Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.  Just an observation 
for you.  Every time you sink into some kind of revenge post - it backfires on 
you because you can't think clearly from a dishonest place.    


 
 
On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:


  
Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's emails to me 
as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands for such, she used 
the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private emails to Share but Share 
*demands* emails that are *behind the scenes* Go figure!

Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing Judy's 
wordings:
Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND 
Share has demanded that
 the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
 emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
 choices.

Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets via direct, 
offline emails.





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Barry attempted to email me privately, too - 

And from Ravi joking about turq:
- sorry for emailing you privately man. I apologize for making up 
outrageous lies about you, but I am the official spokesman for The Liars
 Inc, so hope you understand. Truth be told I have a huge crush on you 
and I so want to be like you. So please feel free to write to me on FFL 
anytime.



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Words fail me......

2013-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/15/2013 10:49 PM, salyavin808 wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 07/15/2013 02:34 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 On 07/15/2013 12:49 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 The obvious next step, although it costs a bit more, is for those who
 feel that they are afflicted by various planets to hire someone to
 DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

 Although I have never been really into astrology except as enter-
 taining bullshit, for some reason I still remember the opening
 paragraph of an article I read back in 1967 in Haight-Ashbury.
 It was in a short-lived but interesting mag named Innerspace,
 and its subject matter was usually...uh...psychedelics. But in
 this one issue, someone wrote an article whose opener still
 sticks in my mind, probably verbatim. It read:

 As all astrologers and competent bullshitters know, the malefic
 influence of the planet Saturn has been long established. Given
 its well-documented ill effects on the planet Earth and its people,
 we believe that the only reasonable thing we can do as a species
 is to band together, person with person, nation with nation, and
 create an international project to send up rockets armed with
 nuclear missiles and blow the big, greasy sonofabitch out of
 the sky.

 :-)
 Quite right, those pesky planets have bossed us around for
 too long!

 My first thoughts went to astrology too actually. Specifically
 Tony Nader's book of discoveries in which he has a diagram
 of the brain linking to the planets (some of them anyway) so
 why not - if palmistry surgery proves effective* - offer brain
 surgery to re-align the parts of the brain so that any negative
 influence from having, say, venus in the first house at birth
 could be shifted to effectively having it in the second house -
 which I'm sure we all agree is much better - by simply moving
 some of the pituitary gland to the median oblongata. Simples.

 I can see a potential market for it. People buy yagyas after
 all.

 *And even if it doesn't!
 

 Most palmists would have a laugh at the article because changing the
 palm lines through surgery won't change destiny.  Palmistry, for some
 reason, does reflect a lot of life events.  Plus it once had a line of
 good looking young Playboy Mansion women lining for me to read their
 palms.  You and Turq can eat your hearts out. :-D

 Homeopathic Accident and Emergency
 http://youtu.be/HMGIbOGu8q0
 Yup, that's about the level of understanding most naysayers have. FYI,
 alternative physicians say conventional medicine is FOR traumatic
 injuries and good at it.


 Q: What do you call alternative medicine that has been proved to work?

 A: Medicine.



Yes, medicine can be all kinds of things including herbs, vitamin 
supplements and even homeopathic remedies.  Perhaps armchair 
scientists ought to actually study about medicine rather than just 
worship at the shrine of big pharma supported medicine.



[FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread authfriend
Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever he may 
 have said or not said to you in private weeks ago...There is no basis for 
 you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of *dishonest 
 place* doesn't make sense to me! 
 
 
 
  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private 
 emails [was Re: Four for Share]
  
 snip
 
   
 Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.  Just an 
 observation for you.  Every time you sink into some kind of revenge post - 
 it backfires on you because you can't think clearly from a dishonest place.  
   
 
 
  
  
 On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
 
   
 Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's emails to me 
 as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands for such, she 
 used the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private emails to Share but 
 Share *demands* emails that are *behind the scenes* Go figure!
 
 Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing Judy's 
 wordings:
 Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND 
 Share has demanded that
  the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
  emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
  choices.
 
 Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets via direct, 
 offline emails.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:56 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]
  
 
 
   
 Barry attempted to email me privately, too - 
 
 And from Ravi joking about turq:
 - sorry for emailing you privately man. I apologize for making up 
 outrageous lies about you, but I am the official spokesman for The Liars
  Inc, so hope you understand. Truth be told I have a huge crush on you 
 and I so want to be like you. So please feel free to write to me on FFL 
 anytime.
 





[FairfieldLife] levitation with acoustic waves

2013-07-16 Thread Share Long


http://www.kurzweilai.net/levitation-with-acoustic-waves?utm_source=KurzweilAI+Daily+Newsletter


[FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future

2013-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
Not astrology but science. :-D

http://www.fastcompany.com/3014307/leadership-now/do-you-know-where-youll-be-285-days-from-now-at-2-pm-these-data-masters-do

Guess that won't make the free willers happy.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
This is common sense, based on people that have predictable routines - job, 
kids, grocery story, workout schedule, etc.  What a waste of time.  



 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future
 


  
Not astrology but science. :-D

http://www.fastcompany.com/3014307/leadership-now/do-you-know-where-youll-be-285-days-from-now-at-2-pm-these-data-masters-do

Guess that won't make the free willers happy.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing where you'll be in the future

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
I can see lots of apps for this data, though. Mapping predictable social 
behavior to optimize traffic flows, and energy use, even fighting crime by 
reallocating cops. Of course, once I get a notice on my phone that I cannot 
travel to San Francisco on Tuesdays, anymore, because the regional predictive 
algorithm has rescheduled that particular carbon footprint for someone else, 
I'll be pissed.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 This is common sense, based on people that have predictable routines - job, 
 kids, grocery story, workout schedule, etc.  What a waste of time.  
 
 
 
  From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:27 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future
  
 
 
   
 Not astrology but science. :-D
 
 http://www.fastcompany.com/3014307/leadership-now/do-you-know-where-youll-be-285-days-from-now-at-2-pm-these-data-masters-do
 
 Guess that won't make the free willers happy.





Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
My apologies Share - none of my business.  I often don't understand what you 
write, by the way, and particularly so when you are reactively writing.  It 
shows up in your sentence structure.  My observation around your behavior was a 
general one related to your tendency when you write what I term revenge 
posts.  I have my own behavior to be accountable for, so will leave you to 
yours.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever he may 
have said or not said to you in private weeks ago...There is no basis for you 
to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of *dishonest place* 
doesn't make sense to me! 



 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
[was Re: Four for Share]
 
snip

  
Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.  Just an observation 
for you.  Every time you sink into some kind of revenge post - it backfires on 
you because you can't think clearly from a dishonest place.    


 
 
On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:


  
Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's emails to me 
as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands for such, she used 
the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private emails to Share but Share 
*demands* emails that are *behind the scenes* Go figure!

Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing Judy's 
wordings:
Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND 
Share has demanded that
 the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
 emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
 choices.

Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets via direct, 
offline emails.





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Barry attempted to email me privately, too - 

And from Ravi joking about turq:
- sorry for emailing you privately man. I apologize for making up 
outrageous lies about you, but I am the official spokesman for The Liars
 Inc, so hope you understand. Truth be told I have a huge crush on you 
and I so want to be like you. So please feel free to write to me on FFL 
anytime.





 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing where you'll be in the future

2013-07-16 Thread emilymae.reyn
O.K.  As a planning tool then.  Very funny last statement.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 I can see lots of apps for this data, though. Mapping predictable social 
 behavior to optimize traffic flows, and energy use, even fighting crime by 
 reallocating cops. Of course, once I get a notice on my phone that I cannot 
 travel to San Francisco on Tuesdays, anymore, because the regional predictive 
 algorithm has rescheduled that particular carbon footprint for someone else, 
 I'll be pissed.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  This is common sense, based on people that have predictable routines - job, 
  kids, grocery story, workout schedule, etc.  What a waste of time.  
  
  
  
   From: Bhairitu noozguru@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:27 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future
   
  
  
    
  Not astrology but science. :-D
  
  http://www.fastcompany.com/3014307/leadership-now/do-you-know-where-youll-be-285-days-from-now-at-2-pm-these-data-masters-do
  
  Guess that won't make the free willers happy.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
Her:
Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)

Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)

Me:
Silence = (Internal) Reality

All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality

That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that *she* 
primarily exists. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about 
 noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get rid of 
 them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way of quieting 
 the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of thought or feeling. 
 I don't see how you and she disagree.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
 
 
   
 I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create our 
 reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts. 
 
 Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and looping 
 of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind. This then 
 leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.
 
 The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and intentions, and 
 subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless enough about her inner 
 state of mind, resulting in this ego-based drivel.
 
 More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you agreed 
 with this half-baked article.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
  the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
  was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
  chatrooms of New Age thought. 
  
  Let's see what people here think of it:
  
  http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
So, *you* don't exist?  I have the hardest time with this concept.  *Who* 
posted what you posted?



 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 


  
Her:
Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)

Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)

Me:
Silence = (Internal) Reality

All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality

That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that *she* 
primarily exists. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about 
 noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get rid of 
 them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way of quieting 
 the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of thought or feeling. 
 I don't see how you and she disagree.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
 
 
   
 I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create our 
 reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts. 
 
 Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and looping 
 of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind. This then 
 leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.
 
 The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and intentions, and 
 subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless enough about her inner 
 state of mind, resulting in this ego-based drivel.
 
 More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you agreed 
 with this half-baked article.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
  the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
  was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
  chatrooms of New Age thought. 
  
  Let's see what people here think of it:
  
  http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
I am not surprised - I always challenge it, too.

It is a matter of core identity. I exist less locally, or perhaps more subtly, 
than I used to, although I have undying reverence for the vehicle I currently 
inhabit. 

I also act appropriately to my personality. That reflects my life experience in 
this vehicle, this temple I inhabit for this life's journey.

So, when I contrast myself with the writer of the article, it is not black and 
white thinking. We all have a personal sense of self, a personality, an 
individual body, and thoughts and emotions that go along with that.

Also, in terms of learning any lessons, and building any character in this 
lifetime, I am all I have! All of that, that I described above.

However, I tend to experience life and myself as a wholeness, more graceful, 
more expansive, stronger in the face of any obstacle, and perhaps that is 
simply the wisdom of being older.

So, I certainly exist, but enjoyably often don't care to make a big distinction 
between me locally, and me, um, un-locally.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 So, *you* don't exist?  I have the hardest time with this concept.  *Who* 
 posted what you posted?
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
 
 
   
 Her:
 Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)
 
 Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)
 
 Me:
 Silence = (Internal) Reality
 
 All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality
 
 That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that *she* 
 primarily exists. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about 
  noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get rid 
  of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way of 
  quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of thought 
  or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
  
  
  
  
  
   From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
  
  
    
  I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create our 
  reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts. 
  
  Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and 
  looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind. 
  This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.
  
  The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and intentions, 
  and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless enough about her 
  inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based drivel.
  
  More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you 
  agreed with this half-baked article.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
   the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
   was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
   chatrooms of New Age thought. 
   
   Let's see what people here think of it:
   
   http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:

 So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with this concept.
 *Who* posted what you posted?


 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...

 Her:
 Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)

 Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)

 Me:
 Silence = (Internal) Reality

 All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality

 That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that
 *she* primarily exists.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes
about noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them,
get rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a
way of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of
thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
 
  
   From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
  I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts
create our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of
the thoughts.
 
  Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and
looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind.
This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR
NOT.
 
  The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and
intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless
enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based
drivel.
 
  More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if
you agreed with this half-baked article.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
  
   A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
   the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
   was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
   chatrooms of New Age thought.
  
   Let's see what people here think of it:
  
  
http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
reality-stupid/
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Usual Run Around

2013-07-16 Thread Richard J. Williams


mjackson:
 Barry has crooked fingers?
 
u jellos? LoL!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
So, the essence of *you* does exist, but you experience *you* as housed, for 
all practical purposes on this planet within a body (vehicle), but the *you* 
(the personal consciousness and attendant personality characteristics of you) 
is a fluid aspect of a larger un-local (what is un-local?) objective 
consciousness? or energy field?  Following the idea of you/your personal energy 
or self -  extending expansively beyond your physical body (and I'm not arguing 
the validity of this concept), are you not still actually *you* and yes, 
distinguished, from however you are defining the un-local?



 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:17 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 


  
I am not surprised - I always challenge it, too.

It is a matter of core identity. I exist less locally, or perhaps more subtly, 
than I used to, although I have undying reverence for the vehicle I currently 
inhabit. 

I also act appropriately to my personality. That reflects my life experience in 
this vehicle, this temple I inhabit for this life's journey.

So, when I contrast myself with the writer of the article, it is not black and 
white thinking. We all have a personal sense of self, a personality, an 
individual body, and thoughts and emotions that go along with that.

Also, in terms of learning any lessons, and building any character in this 
lifetime, I am all I have! All of that, that I described above.

However, I tend to experience life and myself as a wholeness, more graceful, 
more expansive, stronger in the face of any obstacle, and perhaps that is 
simply the wisdom of being older.

So, I certainly exist, but enjoyably often don't care to make a big distinction 
between me locally, and me, um, un-locally.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 So, *you* don't exist?  I have the hardest time with this concept.  *Who* 
 posted what you posted?
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
 
 
   
 Her:
 Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)
 
 Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)
 
 Me:
 Silence = (Internal) Reality
 
 All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality
 
 That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that *she* 
 primarily exists. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about 
  noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get rid 
  of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way of 
  quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of thought 
  or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
  
  
  
  
  
   From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
  
  
    
  I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create our 
  reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the thoughts. 
  
  Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and 
  looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind. 
  This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.
  
  The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and intentions, 
  and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless enough about her 
  inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based drivel.
  
  More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you 
  agreed with this half-baked article.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
   the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
   was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
   chatrooms of New Age thought. 
   
   Let's see what people here think of it:
   
   http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/
  
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Lindsay Lohan Set to Make $2 Million after Rehab

2013-07-16 Thread John
Yes, that's right.  Oprah Winfrey will interview her about undisclosed subjects 
for a handsome fee.

http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/07/14/Lindsay-Lohan-set-for-post-rehab-reality-show-Oprah-interview/1611373844621/?spt=fsbor=ros
 

Astrologically, Lohan is primed for a revival of her career.  The present 
transit of Jupiter on her natal Sun is activating her showbiz planets, Venus 
and Mercury placed in her first house.  It's also possible that she may find a 
new beau which eventually could lead to marriage.  Overall, the next three 
years look good for her professionally and personally.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
For most practical purposes, YES, absolutely!!! Thanks for following all of 
this...identity spaghetti.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 So, the essence of *you* does exist, but you experience *you* as housed, for 
 all practical purposes on this planet within a body (vehicle), but the *you* 
 (the personal consciousness and attendant personality characteristics of you) 
 is a fluid aspect of a larger un-local (what is un-local?) objective 
 consciousness? or energy field?  Following the idea of you/your personal 
 energy or self -  extending expansively beyond your physical body (and I'm 
 not arguing the validity of this concept), are you not still actually *you* 
 and yes, distinguished, from however you are defining the un-local?
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:17 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
 
 
   
 I am not surprised - I always challenge it, too.
 
 It is a matter of core identity. I exist less locally, or perhaps more 
 subtly, than I used to, although I have undying reverence for the vehicle I 
 currently inhabit. 
 
 I also act appropriately to my personality. That reflects my life experience 
 in this vehicle, this temple I inhabit for this life's journey.
 
 So, when I contrast myself with the writer of the article, it is not black 
 and white thinking. We all have a personal sense of self, a personality, an 
 individual body, and thoughts and emotions that go along with that.
 
 Also, in terms of learning any lessons, and building any character in this 
 lifetime, I am all I have! All of that, that I described above.
 
 However, I tend to experience life and myself as a wholeness, more graceful, 
 more expansive, stronger in the face of any obstacle, and perhaps that is 
 simply the wisdom of being older.
 
 So, I certainly exist, but enjoyably often don't care to make a big 
 distinction between me locally, and me, um, un-locally.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  So, *you* don't exist?  I have the hardest time with this concept.  
  *Who* posted what you posted?
  
  
  
   From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
  
  
    
  Her:
  Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)
  
  Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)
  
  Me:
  Silence = (Internal) Reality
  
  All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality
  
  That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that *she* 
  primarily exists. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about 
   noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get rid 
   of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way of 
   quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of thought 
   or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
   
   
   
   
   
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
   
   
   
     
   I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create our 
   reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the 
   thoughts. 
   
   Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and 
   looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind. 
   This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR NOT.
   
   The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and intentions, 
   and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless enough about 
   her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based drivel.
   
   More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you 
   agreed with this half-baked article.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   
A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
chatrooms of New Age thought. 

Let's see what people here think of it:

http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-reality-stupid/
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
One saying that I think encapsulates all that I said about my identity, 
although it is interesting and practical to me in many ways, is that all those 
words and concepts, plus five bucks, will buy me a cup of coffee!

Speaking of which, I recently discovered a Sumatran Mandheling, Light French 
Roast. Low acid, and very smooth. Like an earthy Kona. Very very good!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 For most practical purposes, YES, absolutely!!! Thanks for following all of 
 this...identity spaghetti.:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  So, the essence of *you* does exist, but you experience *you* as housed, 
  for all practical purposes on this planet within a body (vehicle), but the 
  *you* (the personal consciousness and attendant personality characteristics 
  of you) is a fluid aspect of a larger un-local (what is un-local?) 
  objective consciousness? or energy field?  Following the idea of you/your 
  personal energy or self -  extending expansively beyond your physical body 
  (and I'm not arguing the validity of this concept), are you not still 
  actually *you* and yes, distinguished, from however you are defining the 
  un-local?
  
  
  
   From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:17 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
   
  
  
    
  I am not surprised - I always challenge it, too.
  
  It is a matter of core identity. I exist less locally, or perhaps more 
  subtly, than I used to, although I have undying reverence for the vehicle I 
  currently inhabit. 
  
  I also act appropriately to my personality. That reflects my life 
  experience in this vehicle, this temple I inhabit for this life's journey.
  
  So, when I contrast myself with the writer of the article, it is not black 
  and white thinking. We all have a personal sense of self, a personality, an 
  individual body, and thoughts and emotions that go along with that.
  
  Also, in terms of learning any lessons, and building any character in this 
  lifetime, I am all I have! All of that, that I described above.
  
  However, I tend to experience life and myself as a wholeness, more 
  graceful, more expansive, stronger in the face of any obstacle, and perhaps 
  that is simply the wisdom of being older.
  
  So, I certainly exist, but enjoyably often don't care to make a big 
  distinction between me locally, and me, um, un-locally.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
  
   So, *you* don't exist?  I have the hardest time with this concept.  
   *Who* posted what you posted?
   
   
   
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
   
   
   
     
   Her:
   Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)
   
   Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)
   
   Me:
   Silence = (Internal) Reality
   
   All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality
   
   That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that 
   *she* primarily exists. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about 
noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get 
rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way 
of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of 
thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.





 From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...



  
I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create 
our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the 
thoughts. 

Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and 
looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop 
mind. This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR 
INTENTION, OR NOT.

The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and 
intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless 
enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based 
drivel.

More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if you 
agreed with this half-baked article.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:

 A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
 the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future

2013-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
What is you don't have a predictable routine?  Some of us don't.

On 07/16/2013 09:41 AM, Emily Reyn wrote:
 This is common sense, based on people that have predictable routines - job, 
 kids, grocery story, workout schedule, etc.  What a waste of time.


 
   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:27 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future
   



 Not astrology but science. :-D

 http://www.fastcompany.com/3014307/leadership-now/do-you-know-where-youll-be-285-days-from-now-at-2-pm-these-data-masters-do

 Guess that won't make the free willers happy.


   



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
Sounds like it was well roasted.  


 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 


  
One saying that I think encapsulates all that I said about my identity, 
although it is interesting and practical to me in many ways, is that all those 
words and concepts, plus five bucks, will buy me a cup of coffee!

Speaking of which, I recently discovered a Sumatran Mandheling, Light French 
Roast. Low acid, and very smooth. Like an earthy Kona. Very very good!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 For most practical purposes, YES, absolutely!!! Thanks for following all of 
 this...identity spaghetti.:-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
 
  So, the essence of *you* does exist, but you experience *you* as housed, 
  for all practical purposes on this planet within a body (vehicle), but the 
  *you* (the personal consciousness and attendant personality characteristics 
  of you) is a fluid aspect of a larger un-local (what is un-local?) 
  objective consciousness? or energy field?  Following the idea of you/your 
  personal energy or self -  extending expansively beyond your physical body 
  (and I'm not arguing the validity of this concept), are you not still 
  actually *you* and yes, distinguished, from however you are defining the 
  un-local?
  
  
  
   From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:17 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
  
  
    
  I am not surprised - I always challenge it, too.
  
  It is a matter of core identity. I exist less locally, or perhaps more 
  subtly, than I used to, although I have undying reverence for the vehicle I 
  currently inhabit. 
  
  I also act appropriately to my personality. That reflects my life 
  experience in this vehicle, this temple I inhabit for this life's journey.
  
  So, when I contrast myself with the writer of the article, it is not black 
  and white thinking. We all have a personal sense of self, a personality, an 
  individual body, and thoughts and emotions that go along with that.
  
  Also, in terms of learning any lessons, and building any character in this 
  lifetime, I am all I have! All of that, that I described above.
  
  However, I tend to experience life and myself as a wholeness, more 
  graceful, more expansive, stronger in the face of any obstacle, and perhaps 
  that is simply the wisdom of being older.
  
  So, I certainly exist, but enjoyably often don't care to make a big 
  distinction between me locally, and me, um, un-locally.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
  
   So, *you* don't exist?  I have the hardest time with this concept.  
   *Who* posted what you posted?
   
   
   
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
   
   
   
     
   Her:
   Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)
   
   Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)
   
   Me:
   Silence = (Internal) Reality
   
   All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality
   
   That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that 
   *she* primarily exists. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about 
noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get 
rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way 
of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of 
thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.





 From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...



  
I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create 
our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the 
thoughts. 

Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and 
looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop 
mind. This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR 
INTENTION, OR NOT.

The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and 
intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless 
enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
Yes, I do now - I operate within about a 500 mile radius, but who knows 285 
days from now?  



 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future
 


  
What is you don't have a predictable routine?  Some of us don't.

On 07/16/2013 09:41 AM, Emily Reyn wrote:
 This is common sense, based on people that have predictable routines - job, 
 kids, grocery story, workout schedule, etc.  What a waste of time.


 
   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:27 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Knowing where you'll be in the future
 


 
 Not astrology but science. :-D

 http://www.fastcompany.com/3014307/leadership-now/do-you-know-where-youll-be-285-days-from-now-at-2-pm-these-data-masters-do

 Guess that won't make the free willers happy.


 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Knowing where you'll be in the future

2013-07-16 Thread John
Everyone is a creature of habit.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Not astrology but science. :-D
 
 http://www.fastcompany.com/3014307/leadership-now/do-you-know-where-youll-be-285-days-from-now-at-2-pm-these-data-masters-do
 
 Guess that won't make the free willers happy.





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Richard J. Williams

Emily Reyn:
 So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with
 this concept. Â *Who* posted what you posted?

The past is gone, the future is not here yet; and the now
passes in an instant, before you even know it.

So, we are not 'existing' - we are point-instants in a
spectrum of consciousness, continuum.

Time is an illusion.

In physics a body at rest tends to stay at rest; a body
in motion tends to stay in motion.

Quantum mechanics is a branch of physics that suggests
that there are two facts about the universe:

1. The universe is non-deterministic. Non-determinism
of quantum systems follows directly from the
'Schrödinger Equation'.

2. The concept of an objective measurement is meaningless.
Objective measurement pertains to the 'Heisenberg
Uncertainty Principle'.

Shrodinger's Cat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat



[FairfieldLife] Ordering for the whole company

2013-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
I liked this article on Wired today not because of the article itself 
but the picture of SNL's Bill Hader with a stack of drinks from 
Starbucks to take back to the office.  I'm sure it was inspired by going 
to a Starbucks, finding one or two people in front of you in line and 
thinking whew, this will go fast.  And then one of them pulls out a 
long list of drinks because they are ordering for the WHOLE company.  
Well there goes your quick coffee break.

This happened once again last week when I had two people in front of me 
and the woman at the register pulls out a long list.  Oh great. Funnier 
yet and kinda payback was when she asked for a couple of those drink 
holders they told her they were out but could find her a box to carry 
them back in.  This particular Starbucks has managers I guess who can't 
predict what they're going to need in advance and fail to order in 
time.  I often feel like saying to someone ordering for the whole 
company to tell them to get their own fucking drinks.  At least I'd 
know how long the line and wait is actually going to be if they got them 
themselves. :-D

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/07/how-to-cheat/






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
Re: time is an illusion (and other things):

http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/rc4/hrc4-38.shtml




 From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 


  
Emily Reyn:
 So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with 
 this concept. Â *Who* posted what you posted?
 
The past is gone, the future is not here yet; and the now 
passes in an instant, before you even know it. 
So, we are not 'existing' - we are point-instants in a 
spectrum of consciousness, continuum.
Time is an illusion. 
In physics a body at rest tends to stay at rest; a body 
in motion tends to stay in motion.
Quantum mechanics is a branch of physics that suggests 
that there are two facts about the universe:
1. The universe is non-deterministic. Non-determinism 
of quantum systems follows directly from the 
'Schrödinger Equation'. 
2. The concept of an objective measurement is meaningless. 
Objective measurement pertains to the 'Heisenberg 
Uncertainty Principle'.
Shrodinger's Cat
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
This is the crux of what enlightenment is about.  Those who are 
experiencing it don't experience localized awareness unless it is 
demanded (like a bill or tax collector comes knocking).  The experience 
is like you don't exist.

On 07/16/2013 10:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
 So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with this concept.
 *Who* posted what you posted?

 
   From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...

 Her:
 Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)

 Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)

 Me:
 Silence = (Internal) Reality

 All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality

 That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that
 *she* primarily exists.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes
 about noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them,
 get rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a
 way of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of
 thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
 
   From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...

 I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts
 create our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of
 the thoughts.
 Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and
 looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind.
 This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR
 NOT.
 The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and
 intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless
 enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based
 drivel.
 More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if
 you agreed with this half-baked article.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
 A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
 the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
 was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
 chatrooms of New Age thought.

 Let's see what people here think of it:


 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
 reality-stupid/




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Share Long
But noozguru, who is having the experience of I don't exist?!
Anyway, I wonder where that coffee toting guy will be in 285 days. And why not 
one year? Why 285 days? Great article, btw, thanks.


What stage of life are beej mantras good for?

Did the girls from the Playboy mansion have sexy palms?

I agree that Western med is FOR trauma. But big pharma doesn't want us to 
realize that. Ever.

PS I was joking about the Nokia job (-:




 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 


  
This is the crux of what enlightenment is about.  Those who are 
experiencing it don't experience localized awareness unless it is 
demanded (like a bill or tax collector comes knocking).  The experience 
is like you don't exist.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
The term enlightenment is found under most paradigms - with an attempt to use 
words/concepts to define and communicate it (limited in that way) that reflect 
said paradigm.  Localized or un-localized are defined a certain way as well 
to you personally - they translate in a pretty meaningless fashion to me, for 
example.  The word you and exist are also subject to your personal 
understanding or definition.  It simply depends on which paradigm you operate 
under or which one rings most truthfully to you.  


 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 


  
This is the crux of what enlightenment is about.  Those who are 
experiencing it don't experience localized awareness unless it is 
demanded (like a bill or tax collector comes knocking).  The experience 
is like you don't exist.

On 07/16/2013 10:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
 So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with this concept.
 *Who* posted what you posted?

 
   From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...

 Her:
 Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)

 Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)

 Me:
 Silence = (Internal) Reality

 All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality

 That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that
 *she* primarily exists.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes
 about noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them,
 get rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a
 way of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of
 thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
 
   From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...

 I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts
 create our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of
 the thoughts.
 Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and
 looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind.
 This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR
 NOT.
 The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and
 intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless
 enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based
 drivel.
 More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if
 you agreed with this half-baked article.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
 A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
 the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
 was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
 chatrooms of New Age thought.

 Let's see what people here think of it:


 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
 reality-stupid/



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
I spent part of my morning reformatting an exchange with Emily we had more than 
a week ago, were I to attempt an answer. This post by turq and the responses do 
fit in with the response I was considering. I think that posted article was 
sort of in the right direction. Responses to this kind of thing, to me, relate 
to how a person experiences what we call 'self'. If one engages with a 
spiritual path or paths, this 'self', both conceptually and experientially 
undergoes modification, it changes. What we consider ourselves to be, 
fluctuates. What Dr Dumbass describes is one way of looking at the sense of 
self, but I find his utter rejection of what the lady wrote in that article 
somewhat curious, for to me they are in the same ballpark, just described in 
very different ways.

For me the crux of this descriptive problem seems to revolve around the 
question 'How embodied is your sense of self?' What is it, where is it, and how 
much territory does it include. A secondary question is what is the 
relationship of thought to sense of self, and if all this has anything to do 
with reality, what is the relationship of thought to reality? I am using the 
word 'sense of self' because it leaves open the question as to whether there 
really is a self at all.

Emily has asked more than once questions of the form '*Who* posted what you 
posted?' This seems to imply there is a self. So Emily, what is the *Who* that 
is 'Emily' like? What do you find when you look for it? What are its 
characteristics? What does it do?

Now my experience of this is that it is empty, it is just a void, nothing is 
really there. There are processes, feeling, thoughts, going on, and they 
conveniently go under the name 'Xeno' but that is not what they are. It is more 
like you have a basket. The basket contains apples, oranges, bananas, maybe a 
coconut. It is convenient to call it a 'basket of fruit', but that does not 
mean there is an entity, a soul, or anything, that is 'a basket of fruit' 
intrinsically. It is just a label for a certain arrangement of stuff.

Now Dr Dumbass seems to experience the sense of self rather delocalised, but I 
think he needs to describe it further, difficult though it may be to do so. For 
example, he wrote:

   Her:
Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)

Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)

   Me:
Silence = (Internal) Reality

All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality

That's the difference. She is still operating on 
the assumption that *she* primarily exists.

I do not see, just based on the words immediately above, that she is talking 
about a self. Just there is stuff going on in the body, and stuff going on 
outside the body. The full article does imply she is thinking of self, but I 
can see the above as functioning without a self. That is called bundle theory. 
Buddha and the Scottish philosopher David Hume seem to be proponents of this 
way of looking at self:

Hume asks us to consider what impression gives us our concept of self. We tend 
to think of ourselves as selves — stable entities that exist over time. But no 
matter how closely we examine our own experiences, we never observe anything 
beyond a series of transient feelings, sensations, and impressions. We cannot 
observe ourselves, or what we are, in a unified way. There is no impression of 
the self that ties our particular impressions together. In other words, we 
can never be directly aware of ourselves, only of what we are experiencing at 
any given moment. Although the relations between our ideas, feelings, and so 
on, may be traced through time by memory, there is no real evidence of any core 
that connects them. This argument also applies to the concept of the soul. Hume 
suggests that the self is just a bundle of perceptions, like links in a chain. 
To look for a unifying self beyond those perceptions is like looking for a 
chain apart from the links that constitute it. Hume argues that our concept of 
the self is a result of our natural habit of attributing unified existence to 
any collection of associated parts. This belief is natural, but there is no 
logical support for it.

What is ambiguous for me here are Dr Dumbass's postulates. If the stuff moving 
around in the silence is external reality, how can it be external if it is 'in' 
the silence. This needs clarification. For me there is no real sense that 
silence is internal or external. All the stuff going on in the mind, and the 
stuff the body sees hears etc., outside the body, are very much the same stuff. 
As for thoughts about all this, my question is how much is one's experience is 
locked into what these thought delineate. Example: if there is such a thing as 
reality, why in the case of the Martin Zimmerman trial, are viewpoints so 
incredibly polarised? Two bodies met, scuffled, and one died from a gunshot. 
Those seem to be the common elements of all the stories that 

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread Share Long
And yet here you are Judy, wasting one of your few remaining posts to reply to 
alleged gibberish?! Go figure! IOW, methinks the lady doth protest too much (-:





 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever he may 
 have said or not said to you in private weeks ago...There is no basis for 
 you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of *dishonest 
 place* doesn't make sense to me! 
 
 
 
  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private 
 emails [was Re: Four for Share]
 
 snip
 
   
 Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.  Just an 
 observation for you.  Every time you sink into some kind of revenge post - 
 it backfires on you because you can't think clearly from a dishonest place.  
   
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
 
   
 Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's emails to me 
 as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands for such, she 
 used the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private emails to Share but 
 Share *demands* emails that are *behind the scenes* Go figure!
 
 Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing Judy's 
 wordings:
 Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND 
 Share has demanded that
  the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
  emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
  choices.
 
 Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets via direct, 
 offline emails.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 9:56 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]
  
 
 
   
 Barry attempted to email me privately, too - 
 
 And from Ravi joking about turq:
 - sorry for emailing you privately man. I apologize for making up 
 outrageous lies about you, but I am the official spokesman for The Liars
  Inc, so hope you understand. Truth be told I have a huge crush on you 
 and I so want to be like you. So please feel free to write to me on FFL 
 anytime.
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
Perfect - Thanks!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 This is the crux of what enlightenment is about.  Those who are 
 experiencing it don't experience localized awareness unless it is 
 demanded (like a bill or tax collector comes knocking).  The experience 
 is like you don't exist.
 
 On 07/16/2013 10:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
  So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with this concept.
  *Who* posted what you posted?
 
  
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
  Her:
  Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)
 
  Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)
 
  Me:
  Silence = (Internal) Reality
 
  All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality
 
  That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that
  *she* primarily exists.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes
  about noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them,
  get rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a
  way of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of
  thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
  
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
  I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts
  create our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of
  the thoughts.
  Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and
  looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind.
  This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR
  NOT.
  The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and
  intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless
  enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based
  drivel.
  More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if
  you agreed with this half-baked article.
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
  A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
  the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
  was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
  chatrooms of New Age thought.
 
  Let's see what people here think of it:
 
 
  http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
  reality-stupid/
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
Yes, that is true, and conforms to my experience as well. As my consciousness 
changes, so does my identity, and continues to.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 The term enlightenment is found under most paradigms - with an attempt to 
 use words/concepts to define and communicate it (limited in that way) that 
 reflect said paradigm.  Localized or un-localized are defined a certain 
 way as well to you personally - they translate in a pretty meaningless 
 fashion to me, for example.  The word you and exist are also subject to 
 your personal understanding or definition.  It simply depends on which 
 paradigm you operate under or which one rings most truthfully to you.  
 
 
  From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
 
 
   
 This is the crux of what enlightenment is about.  Those who are 
 experiencing it don't experience localized awareness unless it is 
 demanded (like a bill or tax collector comes knocking).  The experience 
 is like you don't exist.
 
 On 07/16/2013 10:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
  So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with this concept.
  *Who* posted what you posted?
 
  
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
  Her:
  Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)
 
  Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)
 
  Me:
  Silence = (Internal) Reality
 
  All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality
 
  That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that
  *she* primarily exists.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes
  about noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them,
  get rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a
  way of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of
  thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
  
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
  I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts
  create our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of
  the thoughts.
  Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and
  looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind.
  This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR
  NOT.
  The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and
  intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless
  enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based
  drivel.
  More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if
  you agreed with this half-baked article.
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
  A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
  the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
  was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
  chatrooms of New Age thought.
 
  Let's see what people here think of it:
 
 
  http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
  reality-stupid/
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrannosaurus Was Active Predator!

2013-07-16 Thread Share Long
salyavin, this is definitely one of those situations in which truth is way 
cooler than fiction. Thanks for posting. It amazes me how they could figure out 
the ages of the 2 critters.

PS Do you really not like any of what alternative medicine has to offer?!



 From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tyrannosaurus Was Active Predator!
 


  
I'm sure you'll all be as relieved to hear this as I was. They are just so much 
*cooler* that way..

T rex tooth found embedded in prey, restoring dinosaur's reputation
Tooth lodged in plant-eating dinosaur's spine proves that T rex wasn't just a 
scavenger but also hunted live prey


New evidence suggests T rex was capable of bringing down live prey rather than 
simply scavenging dinosaur carcasses. Photograph: Corey Ford/Corbis
Threats to the fearsome reputation of Tyrannosaurus rex appeared to have been 
seen off on Monday by fresh evidence unearthed in the US.
The dinosaur's feeding habits have long been debated by academics, with some 
claiming that T rex was less a ferocious hunter and more a lumbering slowcoach 
that scavenged the carcasses of beasts that had died at the claws of others.
The latest evidence comes from palaeontologists who found remnants of a 
prehistoric skirmish in a slab of rock at the Hell Creek Formation in South 
Dakota. The clash, which occurred around 66m years ago, involved a T rexand a 
large, plant-eating hadrosaur, and ended with the tooth of the former lodged 
firmly in the spine of the latter.
Scans of the tooth and two surrounding tail vertebrae showed clear signs of 
bone healing around the wound, taken as proof that the hadrosaur was alive at 
the time of the attack and survived for several months or even years afterwards.
This is unambiguous evidence that T rex was an active predator, the authors 
write in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Such 
evidence is rare in the fossil record for good reason – prey rarely escapes.
Tyrannosaurs shed their teeth frequently as fresh sets came through. In this 
case a weaker rear tooth broke free as the T rex, which was not fully-grown, 
chomped on the hadrosaur's tail. The hadrosaur is believed to have been an 
adult Edmontosaur, which grew to around 10 metres in length.The tooth crown is 
embedded between two hadrosaur vertebrae and the bone has healed over. 
Photograph: David A Burnham
We not only have a broken-off tooth embedded in the bone of another animal, 
but the bone has healed over the wound, and a nasty wound it was too, said 
David Burnham at Palm Beach Museum of Natural History in Florida.
The remains join a large collection of fossils that tell their own partial 
stories about the dining habits of T rex. Previous discoveries reveal rake, 
puncture and chew marks on bones, while one specimen – an impressive half-metre 
of fossilised faeces – contained partly digested dinosaur bones. In all of 
these cases, it is hard to differentiate between predation and scavenging.
Palaeontologists expressed mixed reactions to the latest findings. Jack Horner 
at the Museum of the Rockies in Montana, who served as technical adviser on the 
Jurassic Park movies, said: This one piece of evidence does seem to suggest 
that a tyrannosaur bit a hadrosaur, but certainly doesn't provide any 
indication of the sort of carnivore the rex actually was.
In 2011 Horner and his team reported that T rex was probably an opportunistic 
carnivore like hyena, which take carrion and occasional live prey. This paper 
certainly offers no evidence to refute that hypothesis, Horner added.
Paul Barrett, a dinosaur researcher at the Natural History Museum in London, 
expressed exasperation that the debate was still ongoing. The whole T 
rexscavenger or predator debate is pretty intractable and not particularly 
enlightening. Work on living carnivores, like big cats and wolves, clearly show 
they use both strategies depending on what's available to them. They'll 
generally make do with a meal from either source if it satisfies their dietary 
needs. Any other extinct carnivore, including T rex, is likely to have been the 
same, he said.
This paper shows without question that a T rex bit a living hadrosaur, but it 
can't show if this was a regular behaviour or not, or even if this was hunting 
behaviour rather than some other kind of interaction, he added.
But Sam Turvey, a senior research fellow at the Institute of Zoology in London, 
called it important and convincing new evidence. Even though T rex may have 
fed on carcasses when the opportunity arose – a behaviour also seen in 
modern-day carnivorous large mammals such as lions – the new findings provide 
strong evidence that these iconic dinosaurs were fully capable of being active 
predators, and help to dismiss the ecologically unrealistic hypothesis that 
they were restricted to a scavenging 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
It will make more sense to you once you've started down the path.

On 07/16/2013 12:32 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
 The term enlightenment is found under most paradigms - with an attempt to 
 use words/concepts to define and communicate it (limited in that way) that 
 reflect said paradigm.  Localized or un-localized are defined a certain 
 way as well to you personally - they translate in a pretty meaningless 
 fashion to me, for example.  The word you and exist are also subject to 
 your personal understanding or definition.  It simply depends on which 
 paradigm you operate under or which one rings most truthfully to you.

 
   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
   



 This is the crux of what enlightenment is about.  Those who are
 experiencing it don't experience localized awareness unless it is
 demanded (like a bill or tax collector comes knocking).  The experience
 is like you don't exist.

 On 07/16/2013 10:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
 So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with this concept.
 *Who* posted what you posted?
 
From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...

 Her:
 Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)

 Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)

 Me:
 Silence = (Internal) Reality

 All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality

 That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that
 *she* primarily exists.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes
 about noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them,
 get rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a
 way of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of
 thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
 
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...

 I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts
 create our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of
 the thoughts.
 Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and
 looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind.
 This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR
 NOT.
 The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and
 intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless
 enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based
 drivel.
 More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if
 you agreed with this half-baked article.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
 A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
 the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
 was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
 chatrooms of New Age thought.

 Let's see what people here think of it:


 http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
 reality-stupid/


   



[FairfieldLife] Nelson Mandela, his energy

2013-07-16 Thread Rick Archer

The day Tiger Woods met Nelson Mandela


By Jay Hart | Devil Ball Golf
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/  - 3 hours ago

 

 
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/PZUT1lrBeAuJ6FQXegTK4g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7c
T04NQ--/http:/mit.zenfs.com/213/2013/07/tiger-nelson.jpg Tiger Woods met
Nelson Mandela at his home in 1998. (Getty Images)GULLANE, Scotland - What
does a Masters win at age 21 get you? For Tiger Woods
http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/players/Tiger+Woods/147 , it made for a
private lunch with Nelson Mandela.

On the eve of Mandela's 95th birthday, Woods described the first time he met
the former South African president back in 1998.

It still gives me chills to this day, Woods explained. A gentleman asked
us to go into this side room over here and [said] 'President Mandela will
join you in a bit.'

And we walked in the room and my dad I were just looking around. And I
said, 'Dad, do you feel it?' And he says, 'Yeah, it feels different in this
room.' And it was just like a different energy in the room. We just looked
at each other and just shrugged our shoulders.

Maybe, I'm guessing 30 seconds later, I heard some movement behind me and
it was President Mandela folding up the paper. And it was pretty amazing.
The energy that he has, that he exudes, is unlike any person I've ever met.
. That's an experience that I will never, ever forget.

Mandela, who turns 95 on Thursday, remains in a South African hospital where
he's been for five weeks battling a lung infection. He is reportedly in
critical but stable condition.

 

 



[FairfieldLife] Article from RealClearPolitics

2013-07-16 Thread mdixon . 6569
Mike Dixon (mdixon.6...@yahoo.com) wanted to share the following link with you:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/07/15/jeantel_i_told_trayvon_zimmerman_might_have_been_a_rapist.html

They added this message:
Trayvon not racist but Homophobic biggot




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/16/2013 12:25 PM, Share Long wrote:
 But noozguru, who is having the experience of I don't exist?!

It's an experience.  It's not that you don't exist. 
Intellectualizing over enlightenment is a favorite sport on FFL and not 
worth much of anything.  MMY should  have just said there is ignorance 
and moksha and left it at that.

 Anyway, I wonder where that coffee toting guy will be in 285 days. And why 
 not one year? Why 285 days? Great article, btw, thanks.


 What stage of life are beej mantras good for?

All.


 Did the girls from the Playboy mansion have sexy palms?

Yup.  But I had to tell them I did astrology and not really palmistry 
though I had studied it.  One of my co-workers had told them I was an 
astrologer.  He didn't say palmist.  The next week other guys who were 
at the party asked me if I could teach them astrology because of the 
side benefits.

The party was interesting because it was hosted by a Canadian company 
that make controllers for game consoles.  It was hosted at the Century 
Plaza penthouse in Hollywood.  This was during the 1996 E3 held in Los 
Angeles.  E3 is an entertainment hardware and software show that is held 
yearly.  The Playboy mansion ran the bar and Wolfgang Puck catered.


 I agree that Western med is FOR trauma. But big pharma doesn't want us to 
 realize that. Ever.

It's all about money.  The lame thing about that video is that anyone 
who practices homeopathy would send a trauma case to the hospital for 
trauma care.  That videos is a great laugh to people in the alternative 
care field.


 PS I was joking about the Nokia job (-:



 
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
   



 This is the crux of what enlightenment is about.  Those who are
 experiencing it don't experience localized awareness unless it is
 demanded (like a bill or tax collector comes knocking).  The experience
 is like you don't exist.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
It just fucks with your head, otherwise.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 It will make more sense to you once you've started down the path.
 
 On 07/16/2013 12:32 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
  The term enlightenment is found under most paradigms - with an attempt to 
  use words/concepts to define and communicate it (limited in that way) that 
  reflect said paradigm.  Localized or un-localized are defined a certain 
  way as well to you personally - they translate in a pretty meaningless 
  fashion to me, for example.  The word you and exist are also subject to 
  your personal understanding or definition.  It simply depends on which 
  paradigm you operate under or which one rings most truthfully to you.
 
  
From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...

 
 
 
  This is the crux of what enlightenment is about.  Those who are
  experiencing it don't experience localized awareness unless it is
  demanded (like a bill or tax collector comes knocking).  The experience
  is like you don't exist.
 
  On 07/16/2013 10:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
  So, *you* don't exist? I have the hardest time with this concept.
  *Who* posted what you posted?
  
 From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
  Her:
  Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)
 
  Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)
 
  Me:
  Silence = (Internal) Reality
 
  All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality
 
  That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that
  *she* primarily exists.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes
  about noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them,
  get rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a
  way of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of
  thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
  
 From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
  I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts
  create our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of
  the thoughts.
  Most people have a non-stop mind, like yours. It is the spinning and
  looping of energy that creates most of the resonance in a non-stop mind.
  This then leads to their reality, WHETHER THAT IS THEIR INTENTION, OR
  NOT.
  The issue she is talking about is owning certain thoughts and
  intentions, and subconsciously disavowing others. But she is clueless
  enough about her inner state of mind, resulting in this ego-based
  drivel.
  More excellent evidence that you don't know yourself very well, if
  you agreed with this half-baked article.
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
  A friend posted this to another forum. I do not know
  the author or even of her, but I thought much of it
  was a breath of fresh air in the often stale cyber-
  chatrooms of New Age thought.
 
  Let's see what people here think of it:
 
 
  http://www.elephantjournal.com/2013/07/your-thoughts-do-not-create-your-\
  reality-stupid/
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality Yeah, right...

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
Could be - I am going by what the coffee store person said, and the description 
on the bin. I also drank it a lot with arf n' arf and maple syrple, so I may 
be wy off on the actual body of the beans.

It was damned good, whatever it was!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 Sounds like it was well roasted.  
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
  
 
 
   
 One saying that I think encapsulates all that I said about my identity, 
 although it is interesting and practical to me in many ways, is that all 
 those words and concepts, plus five bucks, will buy me a cup of coffee!
 
 Speaking of which, I recently discovered a Sumatran Mandheling, Light French 
 Roast. Low acid, and very smooth. Like an earthy Kona. Very very good!
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  For most practical purposes, YES, absolutely!!! Thanks for following all of 
  this...identity spaghetti.:-)
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
  
   So, the essence of *you* does exist, but you experience *you* as housed, 
   for all practical purposes on this planet within a body (vehicle), but 
   the *you* (the personal consciousness and attendant personality 
   characteristics of you) is a fluid aspect of a larger un-local (what is 
   un-local?) objective consciousness? or energy field?  Following the 
   idea of you/your personal energy or self -  extending expansively 
   beyond your physical body (and I'm not arguing the validity of this 
   concept), are you not still actually *you* and yes, distinguished, from 
   however you are defining the un-local?
   
   
   
From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:17 AM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
   
   
   
     
   I am not surprised - I always challenge it, too.
   
   It is a matter of core identity. I exist less locally, or perhaps more 
   subtly, than I used to, although I have undying reverence for the vehicle 
   I currently inhabit. 
   
   I also act appropriately to my personality. That reflects my life 
   experience in this vehicle, this temple I inhabit for this life's journey.
   
   So, when I contrast myself with the writer of the article, it is not 
   black and white thinking. We all have a personal sense of self, a 
   personality, an individual body, and thoughts and emotions that go along 
   with that.
   
   Also, in terms of learning any lessons, and building any character in 
   this lifetime, I am all I have! All of that, that I described above.
   
   However, I tend to experience life and myself as a wholeness, more 
   graceful, more expansive, stronger in the face of any obstacle, and 
   perhaps that is simply the wisdom of being older.
   
   So, I certainly exist, but enjoyably often don't care to make a big 
   distinction between me locally, and me, um, un-locally.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
   
So, *you* don't exist?  I have the hardest time with this 
concept.  *Who* posted what you posted?



 From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...



  
Her:
Beliefs (b) + Thoughts (t) + feelings (f) = Internal Reality (IR)

Circumstances (c) + people (p) = External Reality (ER)

Me:
Silence = (Internal) Reality

All the stuff moving around in the silence = (External) Reality

That's the difference. She is still operating on the assumption that 
*she* primarily exists. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:

 Doc, I think she addresses both of these issues when she writes about 
 noticing thoughts and feelings rather than trying to change them, get 
 rid of them, etc. I think in the Buddhist tradition noticing is a way 
 of quieting the mind. And she doesn't say to only notice one kind of 
 thought or feeling. I don't see how you and she disagree.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I create my reality  Yeah, right...
 
 
 
 ÃÆ'‚  
 I personally think she is full of it. *Of course* our thoughts create 
 our reality. Not just the positive, affirmative ones, but all of the 
 thoughts. 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 And yet here you are Judy, wasting one of your few remaining posts to
reply to alleged gibberish?! Go figure! IOW, methinks the lady doth
protest too much (-:
Translation: Oh, shit, I screwed up *again*! She mustnot have meant
whatever it was I thought she meant--*I*can't even figure out what I had
in mind now, but I wassure it was going to just SMITE the bitch and I
wasgoing to *win* one for once to show my pastoral counselor.Well, I'll
just have to try to brazen it out as I usuallydo when I foul up,
although sometimes I have the scaryfeeling that maybe I'm not all that
convincing. No, no,I can't think about that or I'll go crazy...I can't
bearthat much reality. Somebody, HELP MEEE!!



 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private
emails [was Re: Four for Share]

 Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
 Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever
he may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago...There is no
basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of
*dishonest place* doesn't make sense to me!
 
   From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's
private emails [was Re: Four for Share]
 
  snip
  Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all. ÂÂ
Just an observation for you.  Every time you sink into some kind
of revenge post - it backfires on you because you can't think clearly
from a dishonest place.   ÂÂ
 
  On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's
emails to me as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands
for such, she used the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private
emails to Share but Share *demands* emails that are *behind the scenes*
Go figure!
  
  Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing
Judy's wordings:
  Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND
  Share has demanded that
   the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
   emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
   choices.
  
  Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets
via direct, offline emails.




[FairfieldLife] Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Mike Dixon
Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, see 
Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that Rachel 
Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She said that 
she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual rapist at 
that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him. He 
didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little brother was 
there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman 
the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the snot out of the 
*fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and 
then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread Share Long
tee hee, turq I think I've found Gru's mother right here on FFL! 





 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was 
Re: Four for Share]
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 And yet here you are Judy, wasting one of your few remaining posts to reply 
 to alleged gibberish?! Go figure! IOW, methinks the lady doth protest too 
 much (-:

Translation: Oh, shit, I screwed up *again*! She must
not have meant whatever it was I thought she meant--*I*
can't even figure out what I had in mind now, but I was
sure it was going to just SMITE the bitch and I was
going to *win* one for once to show my pastoral counselor.
Well, I'll just have to try to brazen it out as I usually
do when I foul up, although sometimes I have the scary
feeling that maybe I'm not all that convincing. No, no,
I can't think about that or I'll go crazy...I can't bear
that much reality. Somebody, HELP MEEE!!




 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
 [was Re: Four for Share]
 
 Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
 Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever he may 
  have said or not said to you in private weeks ago...There is no basis for 
  you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of *dishonest 
  place* doesn't make sense to me! 
  
   From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private 
  emails [was Re: Four for Share]
  
  snip
  Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.  Just an 
  observation for you.  Every time you sink into some kind of revenge post 
  - it backfires on you because you can't think clearly from a dishonest 
  place.    
  
  On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
  Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's emails to 
  me as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands for such, 
  she used the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private emails to 
  Share but Share *demands* emails that are *behind the scenes* Go figure!
  
  Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing Judy's 
  wordings:
  Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND 
  Share has demanded that
   the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
   emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
   choices.
  
  Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets via 
  direct, offline emails.


 

[FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 tee hee, turq I think I've found Gru's mother right here on FFL!

And you're still here, Share. Reality isn't going away.




 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
 [was Re: Four for Share]
  
 
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  And yet here you are Judy, wasting one of your few remaining posts to reply 
  to alleged gibberish?! Go figure! IOW, methinks the lady doth protest too 
  much (-:
 
 Translation: Oh, shit, I screwed up *again*! She must
 not have meant whatever it was I thought she meant--*I*
 can't even figure out what I had in mind now, but I was
 sure it was going to just SMITE the bitch and I was
 going to *win* one for once to show my pastoral counselor.
 Well, I'll just have to try to brazen it out as I usually
 do when I foul up, although sometimes I have the scary
 feeling that maybe I'm not all that convincing. No, no,
 I can't think about that or I'll go crazy...I can't bear
 that much reality. Somebody, HELP MEEE!!
 
 
 
 
  
   From: authfriend authfriend@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
  [was Re: Four for Share]
  
  Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
  Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever he 
   may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago...There is no 
   basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of 
   *dishonest place* doesn't make sense to me! 
   
From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private 
   emails [was Re: Four for Share]
   
   snip
   Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.  Just 
   an observation for you.  Every time you sink into some kind of 
   revenge post - it backfires on you because you can't think clearly from a 
   dishonest place.    
   
   On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
   Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's emails 
   to me as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands for 
   such, she used the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private 
   emails to Share but Share *demands* emails that are *behind the scenes* 
   Go figure!
   
   Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing Judy's 
   wordings:
   Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND 
   Share has demanded that
the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
choices.
   
   Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets via 
   direct, offline emails.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
 rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
 him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
 brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
 give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
 snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
 killed him.


There are a thousand of these stories happening all over the world. People seem 
riveted on this one in particular. You can argue the facts, the events, the 
testimony forever and never quite have the whole complexity of what truly 
happened. There are two many nuances of action and reaction and the intricacy 
of each human involved in this physical confrontation between two men for 
anyone on the outside to fully comprehend the ultimate truth(s) of this event. 
You can talk about every theory from homophobia to racism to indigestion as 
reasons behind this deadly encounter but you'd probably be wrong. Sometimes 
life remains a mystery and I feel it is best to emerge from exposure to these 
kinds of media frenzies free of bitterness and resentment as onlookers -which 
is what we all are.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Richard J. Williams


So Trayvon was worried Zimmerman was a gay rapist
ass-craker?  That's homophobia and gay profiling! 

Atlantic:
http://tinyurl.com/lo5dn3n

Mike Dixon:
 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
 rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
 him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
 brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
 give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
 snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
 killed him.





[FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 tee hee, turq I think I've found Gru's mother right here on FFL! 

What a fascinating study in human nature to find you aligned so nicely with 
Barry these days. Interesting bedfellows.
 
 
 
 
 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
 [was Re: Four for Share]
  
 
 
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  And yet here you are Judy, wasting one of your few remaining posts to reply 
  to alleged gibberish?! Go figure! IOW, methinks the lady doth protest too 
  much (-:
 
 Translation: Oh, shit, I screwed up *again*! She must
 not have meant whatever it was I thought she meant--*I*
 can't even figure out what I had in mind now, but I was
 sure it was going to just SMITE the bitch and I was
 going to *win* one for once to show my pastoral counselor.
 Well, I'll just have to try to brazen it out as I usually
 do when I foul up, although sometimes I have the scary
 feeling that maybe I'm not all that convincing. No, no,
 I can't think about that or I'll go crazy...I can't bear
 that much reality. Somebody, HELP MEEE!!
 
 
 
 
  
   From: authfriend authfriend@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails 
  [was Re: Four for Share]
  
  Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
  Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring: Whatever he 
   may have said or not said to you in private weeks ago...There is no 
   basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes negotiations. So your use of 
   *dishonest place* doesn't make sense to me! 
   
From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private 
   emails [was Re: Four for Share]
   
   snip
   Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.  Just 
   an observation for you.  Every time you sink into some kind of 
   revenge post - it backfires on you because you can't think clearly from a 
   dishonest place.    
   
   On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
   
   Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's emails 
   to me as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands for 
   such, she used the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private 
   emails to Share but Share *demands* emails that are *behind the scenes* 
   Go figure!
   
   Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing Judy's 
   wordings:
   Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND 
   Share has demanded that
the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
choices.
   
   Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets via 
   direct, offline emails.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread feste37
Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was an alien -- a creature from Mars or 
somewhere like that. It was Trayvon's irrational fear of extraterrestrial life 
that killed him. Zimmerman had nothing to do with it. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*,�a 
 homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman 
 following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his 
 little brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended 
 to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
 snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
 45 seconds and then fired in self defense.�In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
 killed him.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Mike Dixon
Zimmerman defended his life from a person with an irrational fear of him. He 
had no other choice.

 


 From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
 
 
   
 
Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was an alien -- a creature from Mars or 
somewhere like that. It was Trayvon's irrational fear of extraterrestrial life 
that killed him. Zimmerman had nothing to do with it. 

--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
wrote:

 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*,�a 
 homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman 
 following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his 
 little brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended 
 to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
 snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
 45 seconds and then fired in self defense.�In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
 killed him.


   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Yes I think Mikey boy's right.

Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic bigotry
of African Americans, epitomized by Travyon.

How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long history
of slavery when African American landowners shipped them from Europe, then
being confined to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap wine,
cheap meat - coupled with systematic racism denying them employment
opportunities forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence, high crime rate,
alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden of being constantly profiled,
harassed and abused by the predominantly African-American police. God I
myself spent 3 years around housing projecting witnessing the pain and
burden of Whites.

Who can ever forget a bunch of African Americans torturing, tying the young
homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence and leaving him to die.

My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and Zimmerman.



On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Zimmerman defended his life from a person with an irrational fear of him.
 He had no other choice.

*From:* feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:57 PM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  **

 Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was an alien -- a creature from Mars
 or somewhere like that. It was Trayvon's irrational fear of
 extraterrestrial life that killed him. Zimmerman had nothing to do with it.

 --- In 
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com,
 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
 
  Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is
 developing, see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last
 night that Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the
 encounter . She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a
 *rapist*,�a homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was
 Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following
 him to his home because his little brother was there and might... It's
 looking more like Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd
 treatment. Martin intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was
 stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in
 self defense.�In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
 

   

  



[FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
Thanks again. Re Beej mantras are commonly used in astrology and
ayurveda . . . tells the person to repeat the mantra either in a short
meditation or sometimes throughout the day (like a walking mantra).
Repeating the mantra through the day (like the Hare Krishna crowd) is
very different from effortless TM. The point is kinda to forget the
mantra.

Re: When longer mantras are given as a public first technique then
the teacher usually gives shaktipat to jump-start them. Muktananda's
organization teaches this way. But the guru has to wait until his
teachers have developed enough shakti to give shakipat to teach these. I
was also taught by my tantra guru to teach meditation this way. You
sound like the guy I need to meet! What I've read about Muktananda's
shaktipat trickery has always intrigued me - he was able to produce
serious shifts in his students awareness - shifts that are difficult to
explain. Do you think it comes down to hypnotic suggestion? - which is
what charismatic church leaders seem to practise (perhaps
unconsciously). Or do you reckon there's something more going on here? I
was recently looking for a (basic, non-technical) book on shaktipat that
might give me some insight: can you recommend any titles (maybe one of
Muktananda's as I've not read any of his books)?

Re  . . . With a little zip from performing a puja before each teaching
session. But a lot of people might have just picked the beej mantra up
out of book and it would have worked after a while. Yes, there are some
on-line TM-type instructors that have appeared recently. I remember from
my own TM initiation that I felt the dive within right from the get-go.
In fact, it took me completely by surprise. Those who've tried learning
from a book or on-line do report benefits so I hope they're getting the
same experiences but I wonder if, by missing out on that face-to-face
encounter, something gets lost by the mediation of text or technology.
Rather like Benson's Relaxation Response!
One of the most striking things about Maharishi's decision to set-up his
teacher-training assembly line was his confidence that they'd be able to
transmit the TM technique and get guaranteed results. How could he be so
confident when he was dealing with something so intangible?
By the way, when I refer to hypnosis above, that's not a put-down as
hypnosis is clearly beneficial in certain situations.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 Beej mantras are commonly used in astrology and ayurveda.  They don't
 take much to work and the astrologer or ayurvedic practitioner just
 tells the person to repeat the mantra either in a short meditation or
 sometimes throughout the day (like a walking mantra)..

 Longer mantras like the advanced technique require more to work. 
When
 longer mantras are given as a public first technique then the
teacher
 usually gives shaktipat to jumpstart them. Muktanda's organization
 teaches this way.  But the guru has to wait until his teachers have
 developed enough shakti to give shakipat to teach these.  I was also
 taught by my tantra guru to teach meditation this way.

 Maharishi wanted to create a lot of teachers so in a way went with the
 beej techniques ala astrology or ayurveda with a little zip from
 performing a puja before each teaching session.  But a lot of people
 might have just picked the beej mantra up out of book and it would
have
 worked after a while.  Not so much so by taking a longer mantra out of
a
 book.

 Certain beej mantras are considered useful for certain stages of life.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Duveyoung
Cenk nails this issue.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSIlist=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0feature=player_detailpage
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
 rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
 him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
 brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
 give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
 snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
 killed him.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
Christ, get over yourself! Treat people as individuals not as
representatives of a particular race or nation.
Re Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic
bigotry of African Americans: you listen to any hip-hop music recently?
Clearly some black individuals (notice I said some there?) can't abide
gays.
What
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 Yes I think Mikey boy's right.

 Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic
bigotry
 of African Americans, epitomized by Travyon.

 How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long
history
 of slavery when African American landowners shipped them from Europe,
then
 being confined to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap
wine,
 cheap meat - coupled with systematic racism denying them employment
 opportunities forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence, high crime
rate,
 alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden of being constantly profiled,
 harassed and abused by the predominantly African-American police. God
I
 myself spent 3 years around housing projecting witnessing the pain and
 burden of Whites.

 Who can ever forget a bunch of African Americans torturing, tying the
young
 homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence and leaving him to die.

 My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and Zimmerman.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
Priceless! I got that beat though. Here's a comment on another web site:
I wonder if this whole thing wouldn't have just blown over if the
victim wasn't the president's son.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams  wrote:



 So Trayvon was worried Zimmerman was a gay rapist ass-craker? 
That's homophobia and gay profiling!





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

2013-07-16 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/16/2013 04:15 PM, Seraphita wrote:
 Thanks again. Re Beej mantras are commonly used in astrology and
 ayurveda . . . tells the person to repeat the mantra either in a short
 meditation or sometimes throughout the day (like a walking mantra).
 Repeating the mantra through the day (like the Hare Krishna crowd) is
 very different from effortless TM. The point is kinda to forget the
 mantra.

There is the TM walking mantra for kids.  And in TM the mantra is just 
a faint idea.  FYI, I taught TM too.

 Re: When longer mantras are given as a public first technique then
 the teacher usually gives shaktipat to jump-start them. Muktananda's
 organization teaches this way. But the guru has to wait until his
 teachers have developed enough shakti to give shakipat to teach these. I
 was also taught by my tantra guru to teach meditation this way. You
 sound like the guy I need to meet! What I've read about Muktananda's
 shaktipat trickery has always intrigued me - he was able to produce
 serious shifts in his students awareness - shifts that are difficult to
 explain. Do you think it comes down to hypnotic suggestion? - which is
 what charismatic church leaders seem to practise (perhaps
 unconsciously). Or do you reckon there's something more going on here?

It is the transference of energy or shakti.  It isn't hypnosis. Tantrics 
are supposed to get so powerful and good at it that they can temporarily 
animate a dead corpse in a cremation ground.
 I
 was recently looking for a (basic, non-technical) book on shaktipat that
 might give me some insight: can you recommend any titles (maybe one of
 Muktananda's as I've not read any of his books)?

It can't be learned from a book.  It is really simple and there have 
been others on FFL who have taken some of the shaktipat courses that 
other Indian teachers have offered.  My teacher limited me to giving it 
only 7 times per day when starting out.   But he also only allowed me to 
do the technique after 5 years of instruction.
 Re  . . . With a little zip from performing a puja before each teaching
 session. But a lot of people might have just picked the beej mantra up
 out of book and it would have worked after a while. Yes, there are some
 on-line TM-type instructors that have appeared recently. I remember from
 my own TM initiation that I felt the dive within right from the get-go.
 In fact, it took me completely by surprise. Those who've tried learning
 from a book or on-line do report benefits so I hope they're getting the
 same experiences but I wonder if, by missing out on that face-to-face
 encounter, something gets lost by the mediation of text or technology.

Three years prior to learning TM I tried a meditation out of a book.  I 
didn't expect anything but the kundalini rose to the crown chakra.  It 
was as if I went up into the sun and coming out I was disoriented.  I 
had been doing some yoga asanas that were taught to me by someone in the 
house where I was staying.  Those probably helped prime me but OTOH I 
had spiritual experiences since childhood but nothing like the kundalini 
rising.

So it depends.  I also had a friend who was raised by Rosicrucians and 
was very spiritual.  He got shaktipat and meditation instruction from 
one of Muktananda's teachers and said he didn't experience anything.

 Rather like Benson's Relaxation Response!
 One of the most striking things about Maharishi's decision to set-up his
 teacher-training assembly line was his confidence that they'd be able to
 transmit the TM technique and get guaranteed results. How could he be so
 confident when he was dealing with something so intangible?

Because indeed it is a very simple technique.  And as I mentioned 
something like astrologers or ayurvedic practitioners give in a less 
structured way.  I had a professor of astrology at a Hindu university 
recommend the same mantra as the  TM advanced technique after seeing my 
chart.

 By the way, when I refer to hypnosis above, that's not a put-down as
 hypnosis is clearly beneficial in certain situations.

My tantric guru became a licensed hypno-therapist.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 Beej mantras are commonly used in astrology and ayurveda.  They don't
 take much to work and the astrologer or ayurvedic practitioner just
 tells the person to repeat the mantra either in a short meditation or
 sometimes throughout the day (like a walking mantra)..

 Longer mantras like the advanced technique require more to work.
 When
 longer mantras are given as a public first technique then the
 teacher
 usually gives shaktipat to jumpstart them. Muktanda's organization
 teaches this way.  But the guru has to wait until his teachers have
 developed enough shakti to give shakipat to teach these.  I was also
 taught by my tantra guru to teach meditation this way.

 Maharishi wanted to create a lot of teachers so in a way went with the
 beej techniques ala astrology or ayurveda with a little zip from
 performing a puja 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Seraphita s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Christ, get over yourself! Treat people as individuals not as
 representatives of a particular race or nation.


I can't Seraphita baby - how can you be so cold-hearted and not show any
empathy to my pain, my bitterness, the sadness and the overwhelming
resentment I feel against the deep rooted, deep seated, deep, deep, fucking
deep bigotry of African Americans?

You heartless bastard - I hate you - you hear me? I fucking HATE YOU
@!#$%^*(



 Re Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic
 bigotry of African Americans: you listen to any hip-hop music recently?
 Clearly some black individuals (notice I said some there?) can't abide
 gays.

 What

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
 
  Yes I think Mikey boy's right.
 
  Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic
 bigotry
  of African Americans, epitomized by Travyon.
 
  How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long
 history
  of slavery when African American landowners shipped them from Europe,
 then
  being confined to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap wine,
  cheap meat - coupled with systematic racism denying them employment
  opportunities forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence, high crime
 rate,
  alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden of being constantly profiled,
  harassed and abused by the predominantly African-American police. God I
  myself spent 3 years around housing projecting witnessing the pain and
  burden of Whites.
 
  Who can ever forget a bunch of African Americans torturing, tying the
 young
  homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence and leaving him to die.
 
  My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and Zimmerman.
 
 
 

   



[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread feste37
Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation. Now, what was that 
you were saying a few days ago about British superiority in the recognition of 
irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:

 Christ, get over yourself! Treat people as individuals not as
 representatives of a particular race or nation.
 Re Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic
 bigotry of African Americans: you listen to any hip-hop music recently?
 Clearly some black individuals (notice I said some there?) can't abide
 gays.
 What
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
 
  Yes I think Mikey boy's right.
 
  Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic
 bigotry
  of African Americans, epitomized by Travyon.
 
  How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long
 history
  of slavery when African American landowners shipped them from Europe,
 then
  being confined to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap
 wine,
  cheap meat - coupled with systematic racism denying them employment
  opportunities forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence, high crime
 rate,
  alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden of being constantly profiled,
  harassed and abused by the predominantly African-American police. God
 I
  myself spent 3 years around housing projecting witnessing the pain and
  burden of Whites.
 
  Who can ever forget a bunch of African Americans torturing, tying the
 young
  homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence and leaving him to die.
 
  My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and Zimmerman.
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: How to improve TM practice - a heretic's guide

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
Thanks yet again. Taking on board what you say about shaktipat and
book-learning, which of Muktananda's books would you recommend if I just
wanted to learn about the man and his trajectory? And, with apologies
for lowering the tone of the conversation, what did you make of the
accusations of sexual impropriety against Mucky? As he seems to be
guilty as charged (no?) does that invalidate what he had to teach?
Also, do you know of any shaktipat groups in the UK that could be worth
investigating? Does your group have centres (centers) over here?
As regards your personal history, did you ever try psychedelics back in
the day; I'm wondering if they might have been a cause of some of your
experiences. (If you don't want to answer this bit, that's fine too!)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 On 07/16/2013 04:15 PM, Seraphita wrote:
  Thanks again. Re Beej mantras are commonly used in astrology and
  ayurveda . . . tells the person to repeat the mantra either in a
short
  meditation or sometimes throughout the day (like a walking mantra).
  Repeating the mantra through the day (like the Hare Krishna crowd)
is
  very different from effortless TM. The point is kinda to forget the
  mantra.

 There is the TM walking mantra for kids.  And in TM the mantra is
just
 a faint idea.  FYI, I taught TM too.

  Re: When longer mantras are given as a public first technique
then
  the teacher usually gives shaktipat to jump-start them. Muktananda's
  organization teaches this way. But the guru has to wait until his
  teachers have developed enough shakti to give shakipat to teach
these. I
  was also taught by my tantra guru to teach meditation this way. You
  sound like the guy I need to meet! What I've read about Muktananda's
  shaktipat trickery has always intrigued me - he was able to produce
  serious shifts in his students awareness - shifts that are difficult
to
  explain. Do you think it comes down to hypnotic suggestion? - which
is
  what charismatic church leaders seem to practise (perhaps
  unconsciously). Or do you reckon there's something more going on
here?

 It is the transference of energy or shakti.  It isn't hypnosis.
Tantrics
 are supposed to get so powerful and good at it that they can
temporarily
 animate a dead corpse in a cremation ground.
  I
  was recently looking for a (basic, non-technical) book on shaktipat
that
  might give me some insight: can you recommend any titles (maybe one
of
  Muktananda's as I've not read any of his books)?

 It can't be learned from a book.  It is really simple and there have
 been others on FFL who have taken some of the shaktipat courses that
 other Indian teachers have offered.  My teacher limited me to giving
it
 only 7 times per day when starting out.   But he also only allowed me
to
 do the technique after 5 years of instruction.
  Re  . . . With a little zip from performing a puja before each
teaching
  session. But a lot of people might have just picked the beej mantra
up
  out of book and it would have worked after a while. Yes, there are
some
  on-line TM-type instructors that have appeared recently. I remember
from
  my own TM initiation that I felt the dive within right from the
get-go.
  In fact, it took me completely by surprise. Those who've tried
learning
  from a book or on-line do report benefits so I hope they're getting
the
  same experiences but I wonder if, by missing out on that
face-to-face
  encounter, something gets lost by the mediation of text or
technology.

 Three years prior to learning TM I tried a meditation out of a book. 
I
 didn't expect anything but the kundalini rose to the crown chakra.  It
 was as if I went up into the sun and coming out I was disoriented.  I
 had been doing some yoga asanas that were taught to me by someone in
the
 house where I was staying.  Those probably helped prime me but OTOH I
 had spiritual experiences since childhood but nothing like the
kundalini
 rising.

 So it depends.  I also had a friend who was raised by Rosicrucians and
 was very spiritual.  He got shaktipat and meditation instruction from
 one of Muktananda's teachers and said he didn't experience anything.

  Rather like Benson's Relaxation Response!
  One of the most striking things about Maharishi's decision to set-up
his
  teacher-training assembly line was his confidence that they'd be
able to
  transmit the TM technique and get guaranteed results. How could he
be so
  confident when he was dealing with something so intangible?

 Because indeed it is a very simple technique.  And as I mentioned
 something like astrologers or ayurvedic practitioners give in a less
 structured way.  I had a professor of astrology at a Hindu university
 recommend the same mantra as the  TM advanced technique after seeing
my
 chart.

  By the way, when I refer to hypnosis above, that's not a put-down as
  hypnosis is clearly beneficial in certain situations.

 My tantric guru became a licensed hypno-therapist.

 
  --- In 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:

 Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation. Now, what
was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority in the
recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
That's instant karma for you. As the one who started the whole
Zimmerman/Steyn argy-bargy thread, when I saw a new thread had been
started on this topic I thought: Don't go there Seraphita. I ignored
the voices in my head and look  what happens!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:

  **
 
 
  Christ, get over yourself! Treat people as individuals not as
  representatives of a particular race or nation.
 

 I can't Seraphita baby - how can you be so cold-hearted and not show
any
 empathy to my pain, my bitterness, the sadness and the overwhelming
 resentment I feel against the deep rooted, deep seated, deep, deep,
fucking
 deep bigotry of African Americans?

 You heartless bastard - I hate you - you hear me? I fucking HATE YOU
 @!#$%^*(


 
  Re Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist,
homophobic
  bigotry of African Americans: you listen to any hip-hop music
recently?
  Clearly some black individuals (notice I said some there?) can't
abide
  gays.
 
  What
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
  
   Yes I think Mikey boy's right.
  
   Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist,
homophobic
  bigotry
   of African Americans, epitomized by Travyon.
  
   How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long
  history
   of slavery when African American landowners shipped them from
Europe,
  then
   being confined to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap
wine,
   cheap meat - coupled with systematic racism denying them
employment
   opportunities forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence, high
crime
  rate,
   alcoholism and drug abuse. The burden of being constantly
profiled,
   harassed and abused by the predominantly African-American police.
God I
   myself spent 3 years around housing projecting witnessing the pain
and
   burden of Whites.
  
   Who can ever forget a bunch of African Americans torturing, tying
the
  young
   homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence and leaving him to die.
  
   My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and Zimmerman.
  
  
  
 
 
 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
By the way: I don't think Brits have a superiority in the recognition of
irony. It's more that Yanks and Brits are attuned differently. The fact
that I missed this one and you missed some of mine rather nicely makes
my point. (Seizing victory from the jaws of defeat!)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita  wrote:

 Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
 
  Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation. Now,
what
 was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority in
the
 recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.
 
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread feste37


Thanks for being a good sport. I quite like the English, actually. But that 
cultural superiority thing is a bit outdated, don't you think? You may have 
Shakespeare, but we have, er . . .  er . . . we have . . . OK, I'll get back to 
you on that one.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:

 Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
 
  Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation. Now, what
 was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority in the
 recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
The First Amendment and Jack Daniel's No 7.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:



 Thanks for being a good sport. I quite like the English, actually. But
that cultural superiority thing is a bit outdated, don't you think? You
may have Shakespeare, but we have, er . . .  er . . . we have . . . OK,
I'll get back to you on that one.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote:
 
  Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
  
   Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation. Now,
what
  was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority in
the
  recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.
  
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 Thanks for being a good sport. I quite like the English,
 actually. But that cultural superiority thing is a bit
 outdated, don't you think? You may have Shakespeare, but
 we have, er . . .  er . . . we have . . . OK, I'll get
 back to you on that one.

Mark Twain.




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote:
 
  Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
  
   Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation. Now, what
  was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority in the
  recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.
  
  
 





[FairfieldLife] The 23rd Psalm

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
As freely interpreted by the Strawbs. This is what church services
should be like.
http://tinyurl.com/nt8mjud
But if at the Church they would give us some Ale. And a pleasant fire,
our souls to regale; We'd sing and we'd pray, all the live-long day; Nor
ever once wish from the Church to stray.
William Blake


[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Seraphita
Oh, if we're talking writers: Edgar Allan Poe - peerless.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Thanks for being a good sport. I quite like the English,
  actually. But that cultural superiority thing is a bit
  outdated, don't you think? You may have Shakespeare, but
  we have, er . . .  er . . . we have . . . OK, I'll get
  back to you on that one.

 Mark Twain.




  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita  wrote:
  
   Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
   
Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation.
Now, what
   was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority
in the
   recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.
   
   
  
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Jackson
an excellent piece of writing Ravi





 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
Yes I think Mikey boy's right.

Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic bigotry of 
African Americans, epitomized by Travyon.

How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long history of 
slavery when African American landowners shipped them from Europe, then being 
confined to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap wine, cheap meat - 
coupled with systematic racism denying them employment opportunities forcing a 
cycle of white-on-white violence, high crime rate, alcoholism and drug abuse. 
The burden of being constantly profiled, harassed and abused by the 
predominantly African-American police. God I myself spent 3 years around 
housing projecting witnessing the pain and burden of Whites.

Who can ever forget a bunch of African Americans torturing, tying the young 
homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence and leaving him to die.

My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and Zimmerman.





On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
Zimmerman defended his life from a person with an irrational fear of him. He 
had no other choice.


From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 
 
  
Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was an alien -- a creature from Mars or 
somewhere like that. It was Trayvon's irrational fear of extraterrestrial life 
that killed him. Zimmerman had nothing to do with it. 


--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
wrote:

 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*,�a 
 homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by 
 Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home 
 because his little brother was there and might... It's looking more like 
 Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin 
 intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. 
 Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in self 
 defense.�In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Jackson
This is excellent - his summation support my assertion that the local cops 
didn't give a damn about a black kid getting shot by someone not black. 





 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
Cenk nails this issue. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSIlist=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0feature=player_detailpage
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
 rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
 him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
 brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
 give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
 snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
 killed him.



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
I thought it was lead poisoning?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
 rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
 him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
 brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
 give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
 snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
 killed him.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
Yep, I like this.  Common sense.  

Mike, you done gone off the deep end on this and you misspelled his name.  
Matthew Shepard was his name.  You sound both racist and homophobic yourself. 
    

On the night of October 6–7, 1998, Shepard met Aaron McKinney and Russell 
Henderson for the first time at the Fireside Lounge in Laramie, Wyoming.[7][8] 
It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard a ride home.[9] 
McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a remote, rural area and 
proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, tying him to a fence and 
leaving him to die. According to their court testimony, McKinney and Henderson 
also discovered his address and intended to steal from his home. Still tied to 
the fence, Shepard, who was still alive but in a coma, was discovered 18 hours 
later by Aaron Kreifels, a cyclist who initially mistook Shepard for a 
scarecrow.[10]
Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his 
right ear. He experienced severe brainstem damage, which affected his body's 
ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature, and other vital functions. 
There were also about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face, and 
neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard never 
regained consciousness and remained on full life support. While he lay in 
intensive care, candlelight vigils were held by the people of Laramie.[11]




 From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
Cenk nails this issue. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtcveaMUJSIlist=SPTpcK80irdQidhuTjXxQZNThuoGPeWjT0feature=player_detailpage
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
 see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
 Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . She 
 said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a *rapist*, a homosexual 
 rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was Creeped-out by Zimmerman following 
 him. He didn't want Zimmerman following him to his home because his little 
 brother was there and might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to 
 give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the 
 snot out of the *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 
 45 seconds and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia 
 killed him.



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread feste37
I've always thought of Poe as a bit of a weirdo, actually, but we do have the 
peerless Whitman. Song of Myself is an astonishing poem, as astonishing to me 
now as it was over forty years ago when I first read it. There are not many 
poets who have written from the perspective of unity consciousness, but Whitman 
was one of them, and he did it in an absolutely original way. There is only one 
Walt. Here's part of it for anyone who might be interested and hasn't 
encountered it before. Is it not magnificent?

from Song of Myself

In all people I see myself, none more and not one a barley-corn less,
And the good or bad I say of myself I say of them.

I know I am solid and sound,
To me the converging objects of the universe perpetually flow,
All are written to me, and I must get what the writing means.

I know I am deathless,
I know this orbit of mine cannot be swept by a carpenter's compass,
I know I shall not pass like a child's carlacue cut with a burnt
 stick at night.

I know I am august,
I do not trouble my spirit to vindicate itself or be understood,
I see that the elementary laws never apologize,
(I reckon I behave no prouder than the level I plant my house
 by, after all.)

I exist as I am, that is enough,
If no other in the world be aware I sit content,
And if each and all be aware I sit content.

One world is aware and by far the largest to me, and that is
 myself,
And whether I come to my own to-day or in ten thousand or
 ten million years,
I can cheerfully take it now, or with equal cheerfulness I can
 wait.

My foothold is tenon'd and mortis'd in granite,
I laugh at what you call dissolution,
And I know the amplitude of time.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:

 Oh, if we're talking writers: Edgar Allan Poe - peerless.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   Thanks for being a good sport. I quite like the English,
   actually. But that cultural superiority thing is a bit
   outdated, don't you think? You may have Shakespeare, but
   we have, er . . .  er . . . we have . . . OK, I'll get
   back to you on that one.
 
  Mark Twain.
 
 
 
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita  wrote:
   
Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:

 Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation.
 Now, what
was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority
 in the
recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.


   
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Emily Reyn
It *is* magnificent.  (Yes, more from Wikipedia on his religious views - 
don't know if unity consciousness, unless it's more like that unity 
consciousness one feels in nature, was what he was feeling):

Religion
Whitman was deeply influenced by deism. He denied any one faith was more 
important than another, and embraced all religions equally.[118] In Song of 
Myself, he gave an inventory of major religions and indicated he respected and 
accepted all of them—a sentiment he further emphasized in his poem With 
Antecedents, affirming: I adopt each theory, myth, god, and demi-god, / I see 
that the old accounts, bibles, genealogies, are true, without exception.[118] 
In 1874, he was invited to write a poem about the Spiritualism movement, to 
which he responded, It seems to me nearly altogether a poor, cheap, 
crudehumbug.[119] Whitman was a religious skeptic: though he accepted all 
churches, he believed in none.[118] God, to Whitman, was both immanent 
andtranscendent and the human soul was immortal and in a state of progressive 
development.[120]




 From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
 


  
I've always thought of Poe as a bit of a weirdo, actually, but we do have the 
peerless Whitman. Song of Myself is an astonishing poem, as astonishing to me 
now as it was over forty years ago when I first read it. There are not many 
poets who have written from the perspective of unity consciousness, but Whitman 
was one of them, and he did it in an absolutely original way. There is only one 
Walt. Here's part of it for anyone who might be interested and hasn't 
encountered it before. Is it not magnificent?

from Song of Myself

In all people I see myself, none more and not one a barley-corn less,
And the good or bad I say of myself I say of them.

I know I am solid and sound,
To me the converging objects of the universe perpetually flow,
All are written to me, and I must get what the writing means.

I know I am deathless,
I know this orbit of mine cannot be swept by a carpenter's compass,
I know I shall not pass like a child's carlacue cut with a burnt
stick at night.

I know I am august,
I do not trouble my spirit to vindicate itself or be understood,
I see that the elementary laws never apologize,
(I reckon I behave no prouder than the level I plant my house
by, after all.)

I exist as I am, that is enough,
If no other in the world be aware I sit content,
And if each and all be aware I sit content.

One world is aware and by far the largest to me, and that is
myself,
And whether I come to my own to-day or in ten thousand or
ten million years,
I can cheerfully take it now, or with equal cheerfulness I can
wait.

My foothold is tenon'd and mortis'd in granite,
I laugh at what you call dissolution,
And I know the amplitude of time.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:

 Oh, if we're talking writers: Edgar Allan Poe - peerless.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   Thanks for being a good sport. I quite like the English,
   actually. But that cultural superiority thing is a bit
   outdated, don't you think? You may have Shakespeare, but
   we have, er . . .  er . . . we have . . . OK, I'll get
   back to you on that one.
 
  Mark Twain.
 
 
 
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita  wrote:
   
Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:

 Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation.
 Now, what
was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority
 in the
recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.


   
  
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote:

 By the way: I don't think Brits have a superiority in the recognition of
 irony. It's more that Yanks and Brits are attuned differently. The fact
 that I missed this one and you missed some of mine rather nicely makes
 my point. (Seizing victory from the jaws of defeat!)

Just wait until you get a load of the Canadian form of irony. In the meantime, 
there are also a fair amount of inadvertent irony posters here. And then 
there is Ravi...(love you Ravi.)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita  wrote:
 
  Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
  
   Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation. Now,
 what
  was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority in
 the
  recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.
  
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread doctordumbass
Its a weird thing being introduced to racist attitudes. Growing up I was always 
in the racial minority, though not completely elite, either, so I was really 
used to my friends being of any color or culture - didn't matter at all. Sure, 
everyone would make fun of everyone else, but not in a nasty way. The first 
black kid I was friends with was named Bill White, and he took some shit for 
it. I called him Bill What? A Japanese guy I worked with recently, called me a 
hard boiled egg - white on the outside, and yellow (asian) on the inside. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:

 an excellent piece of writing Ravi
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
 
 
   
 Yes I think Mikey boy's right.
 
 Zimmerman had to act in self-defense against the racist, homophobic bigotry 
 of African Americans, epitomized by Travyon.
 
 How can one not feel the pain and burden of Whites with their long history of 
 slavery when African American landowners shipped them from Europe, then being 
 confined to housing projects with rampant guns, drugs, cheap wine, cheap meat 
 - coupled with systematic racism denying them employment opportunities 
 forcing a cycle of white-on-white violence, high crime rate, alcoholism and 
 drug abuse. The burden of being constantly profiled, harassed and abused by 
 the predominantly African-American police. God I myself spent 3 years around 
 housing projecting witnessing the pain and burden of Whites.
 
 Who can ever forget a bunch of African Americans torturing, tying the young 
 homosexual Mathew Shepard to a fence and leaving him to die.
 
 My sympathies are with Whites, Mikey boy and Zimmerman.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:
 
  
   
 Zimmerman defended his life from a person with an irrational fear of him. He 
 had no other choice.
 
 
 From: feste37 feste37@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:57 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
  
  
   
 Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was an alien -- a creature from Mars or 
 somewhere like that. It was Trayvon's irrational fear of extraterrestrial 
 life that killed him. Zimmerman had nothing to do with it. 
 
 
 --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ 
 wrote:
 
  Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is developing, 
  see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last night that 
  Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the encounter . 
  She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a 
  *rapist*,�a homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was 
  Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman following 
  him to his home because his little brother was there and might... It's 
  looking more like Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the Mathew Shepherd 
  treatment. Martin intended to beat the snot out of the *fagot* that was 
  stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds and then fired in 
  self defense.�In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed him.
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot

2013-07-16 Thread Ann


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 I've always thought of Poe as a bit of a weirdo, actually, but we do have the 
 peerless Whitman. Song of Myself is an astonishing poem, as astonishing to 
 me now as it was over forty years ago when I first read it. There are not 
 many poets who have written from the perspective of unity consciousness, but 
 Whitman was one of them, and he did it in an absolutely original way. There 
 is only one Walt. Here's part of it for anyone who might be interested and 
 hasn't encountered it before. Is it not magnificent?
 
 from Song of Myself
 
 In all people I see myself, none more and not one a barley-corn less,
 And the good or bad I say of myself I say of them.
 
 I know I am solid and sound,
 To me the converging objects of the universe perpetually flow,
 All are written to me, and I must get what the writing means.
 
 I know I am deathless,
 I know this orbit of mine cannot be swept by a carpenter's compass,
 I know I shall not pass like a child's carlacue cut with a burnt
  stick at night.
 
 I know I am august,
 I do not trouble my spirit to vindicate itself or be understood,
 I see that the elementary laws never apologize,
 (I reckon I behave no prouder than the level I plant my house
  by, after all.)
 
 I exist as I am, that is enough,
 If no other in the world be aware I sit content,
 And if each and all be aware I sit content.
 
 One world is aware and by far the largest to me, and that is
  myself,
 And whether I come to my own to-day or in ten thousand or
  ten million years,
 I can cheerfully take it now, or with equal cheerfulness I can
  wait.
 
 My foothold is tenon'd and mortis'd in granite,
 I laugh at what you call dissolution,
 And I know the amplitude of time.

Thanks for this, it speaks amplitudes and volumes. It is all-encompassing. And 
it has blood flowing through its veins.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote:
 
  Oh, if we're talking writers: Edgar Allan Poe - peerless.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
Thanks for being a good sport. I quite like the English,
actually. But that cultural superiority thing is a bit
outdated, don't you think? You may have Shakespeare, but
we have, er . . .  er . . . we have . . . OK, I'll get
back to you on that one.
  
   Mark Twain.
  
  
  
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita  wrote:

 Excellent. That's a fair cop as we say over here!

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37  wrote:
 
  Someone appears to have undergone an irony-bypass operation.
  Now, what
 was that you were saying a few days ago about British superiority
  in the
 recognition of irony? Time to eat humble pie. How ironic.
 
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private emails [was Re: Four for Share]

2013-07-16 Thread turquoiseb
Excellent, Share. There really IS a resemblance, isn't there...in
more ways than one.  :-)

But isn't it fascinating that the Ann-bot is following in her
role model's footsteps by making suggestions about the deep,
dark, secret meaning of us liking a movie that is now #1 at
the box office in the US, the UK, France, and most other
countries in which it opened? We -- the two people she has
a rather obvious near-villainous obsession about herself,
and who she spends almost all of her posts to FFL trying to
get -- like the film because it's got despicable in the title,
and we identify.  :-)

Next, Judy will hop on this bandwagon and -- without having
seen either of the films -- will write a long review of both
films, Apocalypto-style, badmouthing them and declaring
that the directors (who are both spit French, y'know) are
secretly trying to convert everyone in the world into the
joys of EVIL. They have, after all, created two films in which
the *heroes* are really not only villains, but *supervillains*!
And they're getting kids (and their poor, duped parents,
dragged along to the theaters) to *laugh* at these super-
villains. It's a fiendish PLOT!  It's all designed to keep
people from perceiving Reality, which is of course defined
as How we see things.  :-)

More seriously, wouldn't seeing *either* of these films do
*both* of them a world of good? Try to imagine them sitting
there trying to keep those classic mean old spinster scowls
on their faces while watching Agnes, and Gru, and Lucy,
and above all the minions cavort around.  :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 tee hee, turq I think I've found Gru's mother right here on FFL!


 
  From: authfriend authfriend@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private
emails [was Re: Four for Share]

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
 
  And yet here you are Judy, wasting one of your few remaining posts
to reply to alleged gibberish?! Go figure! IOW, methinks the lady doth
protest too much (-:

 Translation: Oh, shit, I screwed up *again*! She must
 not have meant whatever it was I thought she meant--*I*
 can't even figure out what I had in mind now, but I was
 sure it was going to just SMITE the bitch and I was
 going to *win* one for once to show my pastoral counselor.
 Well, I'll just have to try to brazen it out as I usually
 do when I foul up, although sometimes I have the scary
 feeling that maybe I'm not all that convincing. No, no,
 I can't think about that or I'll go crazy...I can't bear
 that much reality. Somebody, HELP MEEE!!




  
   From: authfriend authfriend@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's private
emails [was Re: Four for Share]
 
  Does anybody have *any* idea what the loon's problem is?
  Both of her posts have been complete gibberish.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Emily, excerpted from Judy's post to which I was referring:
Whatever he may have said or not said to you in private weeks
ago...There is no basis for you to demand behind-the-scenes
negotiations. So your use of *dishonest place* doesn't make sense to me!
  
From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:42 PM
   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] words and connotations was Barry's
private emails [was Re: Four for Share]
  
   snip
   Also, Share, nothing you said here makes any sense at all.
 Just an observation for you.  Every time
you sink into some kind of revenge post - it backfires on you because
you can't think clearly from a dishonest place.  
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   On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Ravi and Doc, yep funny how Judy and others referred to Robin's
emails to me as private whereas when she referred to my alleged demands
for such, she used the term behind the scenes. So, Robin sends private
emails to Share but Share *demands* emails that are *behind the scenes*
Go figure!
   
   Here's an editorial exercise exploring connotations by reversing
Judy's wordings:
   Last month Robin emailed Share *behind the scenes.* AND
   Share has demanded that
the upsets between her and Robin be discussed via private
emails. Private and demanded being Judy's word
choices.
   
   Share says: I have requested that Robin and I discuss our upsets
via direct, offline emails.