date:20050616

Chris

Yes cats that are vaccinated against fiv test postive for fiv.

Carla

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 Am I right in saying that cats who have been vaccinated for FIV also
 test positive

 Chris

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:47 PM To:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FW: false positives for feLV
 tests

 Yes,  false positives are very common for fiv because kittens can test
 positive if their mother was positive and then throw it off later.  I
 don't think an fiv test is considered definitive on a cat under 3 or 6
 months.  I don't remember which it is.  I know I wish shelters didn't
 test for fiv anymore because it is not a bad enough disease to
 euthanise for and there are so many false positives.  I don't consider
 fiv cats to be a problem to keep in my house.  I worry that they might
 get leukemia from my felv positive cat though.

 tonya

 Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am forwarding this infor from other list  - I found it interesting -
 are you guys aware of it?

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:42 AM To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FivCats] Re: Cooling Off
 Kitty/Fleuk kitty

 That's very interesting, Kathy - it happens a lot with FIV ELISA
 testing, too from my experience - 

 Again, even if he is positive now, there is a pretty good chance to he
 is in just transient transmission and he might become negative, too -
 please read the article I sent to you earlier for more detail infor -
 thanks.

 Hideyo

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 I would do the same as you. Keep in mind that there are many false
 positives with this test. In addition, the San Fran shelter no longer
 tests as they were killing too many cats that could have lived long
 and happy lives. I will try to find the article and post it or mail it
 to you when I locate it. (RIght now I am in hurricane preparation mode
 so all is upside down). 

 Anyway, they did exhaustive research and found out that a large
 percentage of cats that tested positive were not positive. And, of
 those that were, only 10% became ill and died of fel leuk - the rest
 died of natural causes. 

 You might want to put that kitty on interferon - I have a friend who
 cares for a large group of fel leuk positives and she always gives
 them interferon to help boost the immune system. 

 I have several cats that are positive and they are still going strong
 after ten years. Follow your heart and keep that baby with you as long
 as possible. 

 Kathy 

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RE: Transfer Factor

Title: Message

Michelle,
Thanks for the update and great to
hear the news about Bramble. He has found the best home friend possible,
and I think the little honey knows that.Who
wouldn't want to get better! Hope the vet visit about his eyes
goesreally well. Please don't worrry about the fact you're not giving
him a home-cooked diet -- he is getting ahigh-quality diet, medical
attention, and that most important thing--limitless love and care.
take care, and all good wishes for Bramble's
continuing recovery, Kerry

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Factor
Hi

It's too early to say yet so I don't want to run before I can walk here but
Bramble has been on the Transfer Factor noe since Saturday and his coat is
shining. His coat was always dull and full of dandruff - the dandruff is going
and his coat is shining and feels so silky. He has jumped on the bed twice today
himself and got comfy and is beside me now. He is blind when the light is on and
has to feel his way around bless himbut can see at least something some of
the time when it is dull which I why I suspect he is still having mild seizures.
He seems happier although still confused and freaked bythe other
catswhen he can't see as they brush up against him but he trusts me so
much to guide him. He had been scratching a patch under his ear at the side of
his face too so seeing as though he will be earmite free after the syringe and
the recent revolution dilema - I suspected his food may be doing it - also his
dental problems may have been irritating him -although that should have
resolved due to dental extractions and weeks of antibiotics. I changed his food
now too over to the organic whiskers and that patch seems to be healing. I know
many suggest a home cooked diet but I can't bare to cook or handle much meat. I
am vegan and emptying cat food out of a packet, cutting up ready cooked chicken
chunks, or scrapingshreaded fish out of a tin is about as much as I can
handle.

Poor littleboy decided he wanted to pee when I was changing the
litterso he just squatted on the floor wherehis litter tray usually
are - at least he knew where he was.

I am going to go and see the vet next week over his eyes and take some info
with me. I also bought her a book on transfer factor. Hopefully when I tell her
of his improvement she will believe me and not the other vet. I'm going to ask
about getting the FeLV cat on interferon too. If that is not an option then I'll
buy it online and dilute myself with the direction of you guys who are already
doing it.

Fingers crossed and still praying which I have been doing every day and
night. It was strange - one night when I prayed for a signal to tell me what is
right for Bramble - I had a dreamwhere my recently deceased baby girl
Tidge appeared and a male voice was at the back of her saying keep trying.

I have since had many strange dreams but that's nothing new (Bramble says
mummy is just strange).

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Hi, Brenda. Thank you for the welcome; it
has been my pleasure to join you all. I too have been reading about the sick
kitties and keeping them in my prayers. Bless you all for caring for and loving
these cats. 



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From:
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Behalf Of Brenda K. Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005
12:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Any more animal
communication questions?



Kat..

 I'm sorry, but I never did get to welcome you.
Although I have been a member of this most wonderful, supportive community for
7-1/2 years, I find it very hard to keep up with the List and everything else
that goes on around my life. I do try to skim the List daily and send mental
positive healing thoughts for all the sick kitties and I grieve for each and
every precious kitty who doesn't make it and passes on. Anyway, I do wish
to welcome you and to say so long for awhile. I do hope you come back to
be with us. I have already instituted some of your suggestions with my
cats and am seeing results. When you get back I'll try to post a little
more about my results.

 Take care and have a happy workshop. :)




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Hi, everyone. I just wanted to see if there are any
more

questions; I will be signing off Thursday night as I
am traveling to Dallas to teach a

workshop.







Kat







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RE: Nina's Timmy

Nina
So glad to hear Grace is doing better. You must be so (albeit
cautiously) relieved.
Re Timmy, you're already giving him interferon and Transfer Factor, and
excellent diet, so I'm not sure either what the benefit of testing for
FeLV would be. (I totally understand your hesitation to test--I'm taking
one of my negs for his routine 6-month physical this weekend, and the
tech/receptionist, who knows I have a pos. brood, was encouraging me to
also do the FeLV test on him. I turned it down. It's a waste of $$ that
can be better spent on other kitty needs.)
It sounds like they all have a URI? I would do anything I could to nip
that in the bud--which I'm sure you're doing anyway.
Continuing to send healing vibes for your brood, and visualizing Grace
beating up Kimba :)
Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:50 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Nina's Timmy


Hi Everyone,
I just mentioned my Timmy to Michelle L.  He's the one that miraculously

tested negative, (remember the big debate over PCR testing to determine 
if FeLV is sequestered in bone marrow?).  Anyway, as you know, my 
household and feral colony has been fighting some sort of bug lately.  
Tim had some sneezing and congestion and his third eyelids have been up 
for over a week now.  I'm starting to get concerned.  I should probably 
take him in to be tested while he's exhibiting symptoms, (because he's 
more likely to show positive then), but when it comes right down to it 
I'm chicken about what I'll learn.  He seems perfectly healthy, except 
for his eyes, well he's a bit more skittish, but he can't see as well!  
I have him on IA and TF when I can get him to eat it.  Do you think I 
should worry?  Do you think I should have him tested?  I'm trying to 
figure out exactly what good it will do me to know for sure he's 
positive, (I'll never know for sure he's truly negative).  My first 
bottle baby, Queen Ursula, had nictating membranes for a couple months 
at one point.  The vets were never able to tell me why.  An AC 
acquaintance told me it was because she didn't want to see how crowded 
the house was with cats at the time.  Who knows, she may have been 
right.  The condition went away without any other indications ever 
presenting themselves.

Grace is doing much better.  She's still sleeping more than usual, but 
yesterday she was very naughty, so I take that as a good sign.  When she

starts beating up Kimba again, I'll know she's made a full recovery.

Thanks,
Nina


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RE: Any more animal communication questions?

Hi, Gloria. I am not taking lost animal cases at this time, but I can
refer you to several professionals who do:

I recommend the following communicators for that service: Annette
Betcher in Washington, http://www.hurricane.net/~angelb/index.html,
(360) 871-4774, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Diane Samsel, South
Carolina, 843-884-7443, www.powerpaws.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; and
Heidi Grengg, Wyoming (307) 733-8499 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  While
physical distance has no impact on telepathic communication, if you
would feel more comfortable with a communicator closer to you, you'll
find a directory of some (not all) communicators at Penelope Smith's
website, www.animaltalk.net.

Also see my Lost and Missing Animals page for many tips and much
information on finding a lost pet www.katberard.com/com_lost.htm.
There's a good link there to an article on Kat Albrecht's site (the pet
detective) that talks about how cats behave when they're lost; that
information might surprise you. Don't expect him to meow at you when you
call his name, they rarely if ever do that. See the article for more
information.

Kat

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Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Any more animal communication questions?

Yes!  Susan and I are looking for a lost cat (again) - Smokey, a  
Siamese cat.  It's in a wooded area, nice residential area, but backs  
up on the woods near the freeway.  We want to know if he's alive and  
where to look.  Should I email you privately?

Gloria

On Jun 15, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Kathleen A. Berard wrote:

 Hi, everyone. I just wanted to see if there are any more questions;  
 I will be signing off Thursday night as I am traveling to Dallas to  
 teach a workshop.


 Kat


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 Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant

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RE: Nina's Timmy

Wonderful news about Gypsy!!
Well done (and extra treats for) Gypsy!!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy

Gypsy should be congratulated too!  She's finally started to put on 
weight and for the first time, I don't feel like I'm on death-watch with

her anymore. 
Nina

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RE: Any more animal communication questions?

Good luck with finding Smokey, Gloria. If anyone can find him, you can.
Sending lots of positive vibes. Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Any more animal communication questions?

Yes!  Susan and I are looking for a lost cat (again) - Smokey, a  
Siamese cat.  It's in a wooded area, nice residential area, but backs  
up on the woods near the freeway.  We want to know if he's alive and  
where to look.  Should I email you privately?

Gloria

On Jun 15, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Kathleen A. Berard wrote:

 Hi, everyone. I just wanted to see if there are any more questions;  
 I will be signing off Thursday night as I am traveling to Dallas to  
 teach a workshop.

 Kat

 Kathleen A. Berard, Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences  
 Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant

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RE: Any more animal communication questions?

2005-06-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane


OK Thank, Kat!

Gloria

At 09:02 AM 6/16/2005, you wrote:

Hi, Gloria. I am not taking lost animal cases at this time, but I can
refer you to several professionals who do:

I recommend the following communicators for that service: Annette
Betcher in Washington, http://www.hurricane.net/~angelb/index.html,
(360) 871-4774, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Diane Samsel, South
Carolina, 843-884-7443, www.powerpaws.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; and
Heidi Grengg, Wyoming (307) 733-8499 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  While
physical distance has no impact on telepathic communication, if you
would feel more comfortable with a communicator closer to you, you'll
find a directory of some (not all) communicators at Penelope Smith's
website, www.animaltalk.net.

Also see my Lost and Missing Animals page for many tips and much
information on finding a lost pet www.katberard.com/com_lost.htm.
There's a good link there to an article on Kat Albrecht's site (the pet
detective) that talks about how cats behave when they're lost; that
information might surprise you. Don't expect him to meow at you when you
call his name, they rarely if ever do that. See the article for more
information.

Kat

Kathleen A. Berard, Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences
Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant
KATALYST FOR ANIMAL WHOLENESS, INC.  www.katberard.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Any more animal communication questions?

Yes!  Susan and I are looking for a lost cat (again) - Smokey, a
Siamese cat.  It's in a wooded area, nice residential area, but backs
up on the woods near the freeway.  We want to know if he's alive and
where to look.  Should I email you privately?

Gloria

On Jun 15, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Kathleen A. Berard wrote:

 Hi, everyone. I just wanted to see if there are any more questions;
 I will be signing off Thursday night as I am traveling to Dallas to
 teach a workshop.


 Kat


 Kathleen A. Berard, Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences
 Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant

 KATALYST FOR ANIMAL WHOLENESS, INC.  www.katberard.com
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RE: Nina's Timmy

2005-06-16 Thread Cherie A Gabbert

Yeah for Gypsy..I am so glad Nina ;-)) What a good mommy you are
Cherie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wonderful news about Gypsy!!Well done (and extra treats for) Gypsy!!-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:50 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Nina's TimmyGypsy should be congratulated too! She's finally started to put on weight and for the first time, I don't feel like I'm on death-watch withher anymore. Nina


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RE: Any more animal communication questions?

2005-06-16 Thread Gloria B. Lane

Thanks, Kerry!  We've been traipsing around in the woods - poison ivy , 
ticks, animals, etc - going to do some more flyer-ing next.  Gloria




At 09:10 AM 6/16/2005, you wrote:

Good luck with finding Smokey, Gloria. If anyone can find him, you can.
Sending lots of positive vibes. Kerry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Any more animal communication questions?


Yes!  Susan and I are looking for a lost cat (again) - Smokey, a
Siamese cat.  It's in a wooded area, nice residential area, but backs
up on the woods near the freeway.  We want to know if he's alive and
where to look.  Should I email you privately?

Gloria

On Jun 15, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Kathleen A. Berard wrote:

 Hi, everyone. I just wanted to see if there are any more questions;
 I will be signing off Thursday night as I am traveling to Dallas to
 teach a workshop.


 Kat


 Kathleen A. Berard, Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences
 Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant

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For Niki--: nutrition info

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Hi Niki
No need toapologize---ask as many Qs
as you need to, and whenever they come to mind. We're all here to help you/each
other!
I had a chance to look at Frazier's book on
feeding kittens, and she says that once weaned (as Ziggy is) a kitten "can eat
the same food formula you feed any healthy cat." She also says that "this is
definitely the time for an extra mineral vitamin supplement. Kittens need more
of every nutrient to help their bodies manufacture strong muscles and
bones."
In her FELV section, where she gives
detailed recommendations for diet, including giving Vita Min Mix, there is
nothing in it about not giving to kittens. So I think it's safe to say Ziggy
will benefit from it.
Also, here's what she says about the
possible outcomes after a negative cat comes into contact with a positive
cat:
The negative, but exposed cat
may:
~~not become affected in any
way;
~~become infected (positive), develop
immunity, and revert again to being negative;
~~become positive, but not become ill and
remain positive--thus becoming a new carrier of the virus;
~~become positive and develop lymphosarcoma,
leukemia, or other cancer; or
~~become positive and be ill from the virus
infection, much like flu; and then recover and remain positive or become
negative.
In my experience, your vet is exceptional in
his attitude to FeLV cats--that's wonderful. Wish there were more like
him.
hope that helps, and big hugs to
Ziggy!
Kerry

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I have another question to ask - I apologize for asking so many questions
but I just can not think of all of them at one time! Since Ziggy tested
pos for FeLV at such a young age would it be "safe" to assume he was born with
it and is going to have it for the rest of his life? I knowtwo of
his littermates have tested pos also but not sure about the third one (he was
the only male and the others were all female).I have to say that I
am amazedby other members talking about their vets telling them to
euthanize a FeLV pos cat. I now feel blessed to have my vet as he
poo-poo'd the idea of euthanasia right from the start (I was the one who had to
bring it up when I got the test results - I was extremely nieve then and to
think it was only one week ago!). Although I am wondering if anyone has
any idea if there is a vet who could be more knowledgeable about FeLV in the
Phila suburban area - just as a precautionary measure. Also, Ziggy only
had the ELISA snap test done, should I have gotten the IFA test immediately
after? I have another appt on 6/30 for Zig and am wondering if I should
request it then or wait a few more weeks?

I am so happy to hear thatall the other littleangels are doing
better!As always you all are in my prayers and Ziggy sends out a big
Meow toeveryone who is helping his mommy deal with this.

Niki

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:29
AM
Subject: RE: nutrition info

Hi all can anyone confirm that the ingreds in Vit Min
Mixyeast powder, kelp powder,
lecithin granules, wheat bran, bonemeal--- are
safe for a 9 week kitten--Niki's Ziggy in this case? I don't have my reference
to hand (and not sure it mentions age anyway).
Thanks! Kerry

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Re: heartworm for cats

2005-06-16 Thread Lewis Faye

If a cat gets a single worm which frequently happens with cats (more so than with dogs) then the test will not show anything. My vet believes Magellan had either a single heartworm or another parasite in his lung last August. My vet successfully treated it but I thought I was going to lose Magellan. 

There was a U. Fla study in mid florida that found that 15% of all stray feral cats had feline heartworm. My vet, at this time, does not recommend preventatives. 

My cat that got it was entirely a house cat.

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Thank you for the info. I'm going to the vet tomorrow so I'm going to ask about it. I'm in the south, and although my cats don't go outside, mosquitoes occasionally get inside, and heartworm in dogs is a HUGE problem here.

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Hi Kat,

I have a question not sure if you can answer this but I have a cat 
bengal that came to the house one day. 

I have him up for adoption but he had some health issues so I was 
holding back on adopting meanwhile he is best buds with one of 
my cats. 

He has know started to mark places in the house. Most of the 
places where places the cat that was marking (that stopped).

My question is do you know if he is unhappy here, has he always 
done this is he trying to tell me something. I had him tested for 
urine. I had complete blood work done he drinks like a horse too!

He knows better cos if I see him and he is gonna start I yell and he 
runs like he knows this is not right.

Any ideas you can see

Thanks
Carla

RE: AC - cats marking

Usually the marking is a territory/dominance thing, rarely is that a
sign of a health problem. I wouldn't know if he's always done that but
if he was an outdoor cat, most likely so. Every time you add a cat to
the household, everyone has to shuffle around and re-rank, and this cat
is probably just establishing his position, which is normal (although
undesirable). 

I work with these types of cases from time to time; there's no magic
answer. Just like dogs work out who is top dog, cats will structure
their own hierarchy, and that just plays out however it plays out. Be
sure not to be visualizing him marking when you're not around; picture
him walking through the house, having no vested interest in the
furniture, walls etc., and absolutely do not visualize him spraying.
What you want to do is get across to him that the house is a nice place
for everyone. Picture him pottying in the box, and only there. 

Also send him pictures of him laying quietly with all the cats, having
no feelings or vested interest about getting to be friends with them.
That's not necessary or reasonable (we don't like every person we meet).
Instead, you want to convey that every being in the home has to treat
the others with respect and courtesy, that's all.

Get a squirt bottle, put it on squirt rather than spray. If you catch
him in the act (and only if you catch him, can't discipline afterwards,
timing is crucial), squirt him in the body (never the face) with the
water. Cats don't like water. If you get the timing right, he will come
to associate the squirt with spraying and hopefully stop. 

Also, please be sure that you have thoroughly cleaned these marked areas
with a good cleaner (not vinegar, smells too much like urine). There are
a lot of products on the market that can be efficient. Note that the
ones that have enzymes in them to break down urine, you must keep the
carpet or area saturated with the liquid for at least 20 minutes. So be
sure to put enough on. 

Kat

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Hi Kat,

I have a question not sure if you can answer this but I have a cat 
bengal that came to the house one day. 

I have him up for adoption but he had some health issues so I was 
holding back on adopting meanwhile he is best buds with one of 
my cats. 

He has know started to mark places in the house. Most of the 
places where places the cat that was marking (that stopped).

My question is do you know if he is unhappy here, has he always 
done this is he trying to tell me something. I had him tested for 
urine. I had complete blood work done he drinks like a horse too!

He knows better cos if I see him and he is gonna start I yell and he 
runs like he knows this is not right.

Any ideas you can see

Thanks
Carla

RE: AC - cats marking

Kat

Thanks I never thought of the spray bottle.
He was an indoor outdoor declawed cat! 
I know that declaws sometimes do this.

I always tell him he is a good boy when I see him
use the box.

I am using some flower essences with him and also 
have the feliway plug ins and the spray(which I use after
cleaning the wall)

I will keep the visions of him being calm and relaxed with the other.
I know with multi cat house hold especially foster it's hard.

I welcome all new ideas it's a challenge to find out what the 
problem is. I solved the felmale cats problem a year ago through
trial and error.

Thank you so much
Carla

RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread tamara stickler

If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED into it  shut his eyes  started purring!..we were laughing so hard we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to it.)
T"Kathleen A. Berard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get a squirt bottle, put it on squirt rather than spray. If you catchhim in the act (and only if you catch him, can't discipline afterwards,timing is crucial), squirt him in the body (never the face) with thewater. Cats don't like water. If you get the timing right, he will cometo associate the squirt with spraying and hopefully stop.
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Re: OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email go thru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area?

there were a number of answers yesterday, barbara! mine was: i have
friends in siamese rescue down there who might have info/be able to
help research it. other folks had other options.



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 never saw my first email get to the group so asking again. need to check out
 a rescue in the Lake Okeechobee area-anyone know anyone there that could
 even just drive by to see if this is a hoarder situatin or really a rescue? 
 my friend who donates-was sent articles that the pound had been closed due
 to horrendous practices so people keep dumping animals on this one woman
 rescue 
 thanks for any help. 
 barbara 


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RE: AC - cats marking

Thanks Tamara,
I will try the lemom ball too

Carla

RE: AC - cats marking

Title: Message

That's
hilarious! What a cutie--he deservedto have that
chicken!

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cats marking
If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and
wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your
animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt
them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon
juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats
don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an
unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no
avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening
when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner
that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED
into it shut his eyes started purring!..we were laughing so hard
we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf
ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to
it.)
T"Kathleen A. Berard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Get
a squirt bottle, put it on squirt rather than spray. If you catchhim in
the act (and only if you catch him, can't discipline afterwards,timing is
crucial), squirt him in the body (never the face) with thewater. Cats
don't like water. If you get the timing right, he will cometo associate
the squirt with spraying and hopefully stop.

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RE: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread Lewis Faye

On some cats, squirt bottles are nothing but challenges (I have a couple). I use one of those large UZI type water guns that kids play with. It will soak the cat instead of spray. Also, don't let them see you do it. Make them them think that the action is causing the water and not you that way, they won't do it when you aren't around either. I trained a cat to leave my bird alone using this method and he lived 10 years harmoniously with my birds."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's hilarious! What a cutie--he deservedto have that chicken!

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If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED into it shut his eyes started purring!..we were laughing so hard we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to it.)
T"Kathleen A. Berard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get a squirt bottle, put it on squirt rather than spray. If you catchhim in the act (and only if you catch him, can't discipline afterwards,timing is crucial), squirt him in the body (never the face) with thewater. Cats don't like water. If you get the timing right, he will cometo associate the squirt with spraying and hopefully stop.

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Re: AC - cats marking

how funny--is he a maine coon, or have coonie in his background?
they're notorious for loving water and LIKING the squirt bottle!

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Re: FW: false positives for feLV tests

at the sanctuary, over the years, they found that the snap test was
only accurate 60% of the time in adult FIVs (tho there are some
exceptions, essentially there are no FIV+ kittens--something like 95%
or more who test positive will no longer do so once mom's antibodies
are out of their bodies--usually between 6 and 9 months of age).
because of that 40% false positive rate--and, being a sanctuary, this
was in a large sample of cats--the sanctuary never took in an FIV+ cat
unless the positive status was confirmed by a positive western blot.


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Re: Pekoe - Check Up Blood Work

i don't believe that it is true that once they test positive on the
IFA they won't throw it off--i don't have the reference in front of
me, but in the merck veterinary manual, i believe, it gave a figure of
something like 7 months or so that it can be showing up on an IFA
while the body is still processing it out

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Re: Pekoe - Check Up Blood Work

I personally wouldn't bother testing anymore. At least not anytime real soon. I hope Pekoe continues to do well!

tonyaMarlene Chornie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi Group,

 First of all, I want to thank all of you for your sympathies expressed when we lost Digby last month. It meant a great deal to us. Digby "came home" last Friday, which seems to help in the grieving process.
 We're taking Pekoe to the vet tomorrow just for a check-up and some "baseline" blood work. He had blood work done back in Feb. when he had the bout with Hemobart and tested FelV+.
 I'm still a little "confused" by everything I've read about FelV. Pekoe was approx. 15 - 16 mos. old when he tested positive - both the ELISA test and the confirmatory IFA test. Right now, he'sappears healthierthan before the Hemobart. My question is, would there be any point to having him retested (ELISA and/or IFA)? Am I correct in that if he tested positive on the IFA, then he's always going to be positive? I'm not thinking that he may be negative now, but just wondered if he should be retested (for whatever reason)?
 
Thanks all,
Marlene

pls add Norman to the CLS

2005-06-16 Thread Robin Sarafinchan




I've been off and on the list since one of our cats 
tested positive almost 2 years ago. Norman was quite healthy up until a 
month ago when he became lethargic and his appetite diminished.

Blood work showed him to be anemic (13) so we did a 
transfusion which improved his condition a bit for a few weeks but he still 
wasn't eating much and hadn't much energy.

Tuesday night suddenly he could no longer stand up 
and seemed in real distress so we took him to the vet in the morning and helped 
him cross over to the bridge.

It's always an agonizing decision to make but I 
feel it was the right one.

I just wanted to thank you to everyone for their 
advice and for listening. This is the third cat we've lost in less than 2 
years (the others due to other illnesses).

For statistics, Norman was 5 years old but I don't 
know how long he was FELV+ (was only initially tested 2 years ago). It's 
such a horrible disease, I hope someday some of my money can go to 
research.

For now, we're going to retest our other three 
cats, hope they continue to be negative and go from there. I know 
there will be more furkids in our lives.

Thank you for listening.

Robin

RE: Pekoe - Check Up Blood Work









Unless you are going to do anything
differently depending on the test result  I would also suggest that you
wait to test its just stressful for them, and, its more
for our satisfaction purpose than for their own benefit sometimes if you know what
I mean  



I took Ginger for re-testing a few months
ago, because she was doing so well and I had a feeling that she is not
positive anymore  and she was  but she was so stressed out from
the vet visit and took a while for her to get back in normal 



I personally think that a good time to do
testing (not necessary the virus testing, but complete body function testing)
is when they are not well  then at least you can find out whats
wrong or what you can do to help them feel better.













From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005
11:04 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Pekoe - Check Up
 Blood Work







I personally wouldn't bother testing anymore. At least not
anytime real soon. I hope Pekoe continues to do well!











tonya

Marlene Chornie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Hi Group,











 First of all, I want to thank all of you for your
sympathies expressed when we lost Digby last month. It meant a great deal
to us. Digby came home last Friday, which seems to help in
the grieving process.





 We're taking Pekoe to the vet tomorrow just for a
check-up and some baseline blood work. He had blood work done
back in Feb. when he had the bout with Hemobart and tested FelV+.





 I'm still a little confused by
everything I've read about FelV. Pekoe was approx. 15 - 16 mos. old when
he tested positive - both the ELISA test and the confirmatory IFA test.
Right now, he'sappears healthierthan before the Hemobart. My
question is, would there be any point to having him retested (ELISA and/or
IFA)? Am I correct in that if he tested positive on the IFA, then he's
always going to be positive? I'm not thinking that he may be negative
now, but just wondered if he should be retested (for whatever reason)?





 





Thanks all,





Marlene

Re: heartworm for cats

Thanks Faye, my vet today said there's a test too. Seems like she said a female shows up but not a male, or an adult but not the microfilia. or something like that?

she said they typically do tests only with symptoms and just use preventative. i don't know if i can afford it for 7 cats and 2 dogs. : (

tLewis Faye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If a cat gets a single worm which frequently happens with cats (more so than with dogs) then the test will not show anything. My vet believes Magellan had either a single heartworm or another parasite in his lung last August. My vet successfully treated it but I thought I was going to lose Magellan.

There was a U. Fla study in mid florida that found that 15% of all stray feral cats had feline heartworm. My vet, at this time, does not recommend preventatives.

My cat that got it was entirely a house cat.

catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Erika,

Thank you for the info. I'm going to the vet tomorrow so I'm going to ask about it. I'm in the south, and although my cats don't go outside, mosquitoes occasionally get inside, and heartworm in dogs is a HUGE problem here.

tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tonya,I didn't know there was a heartworm test either! They did a blood test that will take from 1-7 days (I guess they run 2 tests on it). There was an article in our paper that heartworm is particularly bad this year, and since he came in from outside, we wanted to be sure. It was marked in his records as "heartworm test antigen." Hope that helps?ErikaAlso, I didn't realize they could do heartworm tests on cats? I thought they could just give preventative, but there was not a test?
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Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread tamara stickler

NOPE, he was just a plain ol' little med-haired black and white who was absolutely certain that he was a pure bred! His father was a big oldblack (burmese mix) farm cat...his mom a tortie feral. (he passed this last March) He would sit on the edge of the tub each night and play in the water, dip his (monkey) tail in...curl it back up and shoot the water across the room at his his sisters (looked like one of those paper party favors that you blow on to unravel)...and of course EVERY spicot in the house was his very own drinking fountain.
:-)

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RE: Any more animal communication questions?

Annette Martine is also very good, I heard - she also works with Police
to find missing people - the only thing that I think she requires for
the photo of the kitty to be emailed and she only works 9 to 5 pm, mon
through Friday (408-379-6669)

Again, Dr. Ryan is very good, too (the one who taught me the meditation
- it's amazing how well it works for my situations - I have been
meditating for George every day, and I now see him twice a day every day
as soon as I started the meditation, when I used to see him only once
every couple of weeks) - I have an appointment with her tonight and I
would ask if she has any slot - if you are interested in talking to her,
too.

I think I have given you all the numbers already for other contacts
(Janet Shepherd, Marta Williams), but let me know if you need their
numbers again -

Again, please send him the meditation whenever possible, I will do so
for Smokey as well - 

You imagine a golden coil, coming from your heart center, reaching into
the world, searching and probing for missing animal, Smokey. Latch onto
him like a magnet, guiding him safely home to Gloria and Susan.

Hideyo

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Subject: RE: Any more animal communication questions?

Hi, Gloria. I am not taking lost animal cases at this time, but I can
refer you to several professionals who do:

I recommend the following communicators for that service: Annette
Betcher in Washington, http://www.hurricane.net/~angelb/index.html,
(360) 871-4774, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Diane Samsel, South
Carolina, 843-884-7443, www.powerpaws.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; and
Heidi Grengg, Wyoming (307) 733-8499 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  While
physical distance has no impact on telepathic communication, if you
would feel more comfortable with a communicator closer to you, you'll
find a directory of some (not all) communicators at Penelope Smith's
website, www.animaltalk.net.

Also see my Lost and Missing Animals page for many tips and much
information on finding a lost pet www.katberard.com/com_lost.htm.
There's a good link there to an article on Kat Albrecht's site (the pet
detective) that talks about how cats behave when they're lost; that
information might surprise you. Don't expect him to meow at you when you
call his name, they rarely if ever do that. See the article for more
information.

Kat

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:56 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Any more animal communication questions?

Yes!  Susan and I are looking for a lost cat (again) - Smokey, a  
Siamese cat.  It's in a wooded area, nice residential area, but backs  
up on the woods near the freeway.  We want to know if he's alive and  
where to look.  Should I email you privately?

Gloria

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 I will be signing off Thursday night as I am traveling to Dallas to  
 teach a workshop.


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Re: pls add Norman to the CLS

Robin

I am sorry for your loss of Norman my heart goes out to you

Carla

From:   Robin Sarafinchan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date sent:  Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:26:01 -0400
Copies to:  Subject:pls add Norman to the CLS
Send reply to:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 I've been off and on the list since one of our cats tested positive
 almost 2 years ago.  Norman was quite healthy up until a month ago
 when he became lethargic and his appetite diminished.

 Blood work showed him to be anemic (13) so we did a transfusion which
 improved his condition a bit for a few weeks but he still wasn't
 eating much and hadn't much energy.

 Tuesday night suddenly he could no longer stand up and seemed in real
 distress so we took him to the vet in the morning and helped him cross
 over to the bridge.

 It's always an agonizing decision to make but I feel it was the right
 one.

 I just wanted to thank you to everyone for their advice and for
 listening.  This is the third cat we've lost in less than 2 years (the
 others due to other illnesses).

 For statistics, Norman was 5 years old but I don't know how long he
 was FELV+ (was only initially tested 2 years ago).  It's such a
 horrible disease, I hope someday some of my money can go to research.

 For now, we're going to retest our other three cats, hope they
 continue to be negative and go from there.   I know there will be more
 furkids in our lives.

 Thank you for listening.

 Robin

RE: Nina's Timmy

I am glad, Nina - I was worried that I would have confused you even more
- after sending an email, I did remember talking to Jasmine Indra
(Sally's AC) about Carl's condition - and Jasmine was able to check
Carls conditions - based on Viral related, organ related (and can't
remember other things) - anyway, she thought Carl was a bit weak on
Viral side and he ended up having FIV - again, I don't know if you want
to go through it at all, but just wanted to share that for any future
needs - 

How is Timmy doing?  Have you considered giving him some homeopathic
remedy?  Sulphur might help - (it always have worked on Ruby-E who has
reoccurance of URI a couple of times a year - she is so feral that I
can't give her any medicine at all - but I pour sulphur into the water
bowl - and she recovers like a miracle -

Anyway, please keep me posted, and I will continue to pray Timmy will
only get better - 

Loves and hugs to all your babies 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Nina's Timmy

Hideyo,
You are absolutely right, it doesn't really matter much what the test 
results say, I'll take care of him the best I know how anyway.  You do 
help, you always do.  Just knowing that you're out there helps.  
Sometimes I worry about you, you care about so many and worry so much, 
I'm afraid one day you'll just explode from the pressure.  I'm very 
happy to hear that you've decided to stop being concerned with 
Squeekie's test results.  Living in the moment and caring for our angels

with love is the best we can do, and what we should do.  Your sister's 
right about the fine line between negative and positive.  Look at the 
trouble I've had with Gypsy.  When she tested negative after being 
exposed at such a young age to my FeLVs I was so relieved.  I couldn't 
have known about the battle we were about to face with IBD!

You're such a treasure Hideyo, thanks,
Nina

RE: pls add Norman to the CLS

2005-06-16 Thread Cherie A Gabbert

I am sorry to hear about Norman, my heart goes out to you
Cherie"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm so sorry to hear about Norman, Robin. My deepest sympathy goes to you and your family. You have been through such a lot in the last 1-2 years.
I'm glad that little Norman knew what it was to be much loved and cared for. Thank you for being there for him--for being there for all your kitties.
hugs, Kerry

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin SarafinchanSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:26 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: pls add Norman to the CLS
I've been off and on the list since one of our cats tested positive almost 2 years ago. Norman was quite healthy up until a month ago when he became lethargic and his appetite diminished.

Blood work showed him to be anemic (13) so we did a transfusion which improved his condition a bit for a few weeks but he still wasn't eating much and hadn't much energy.

Tuesday night suddenly he could no longer stand up and seemed in real distress so we took him to the vet in the morning and helped him cross over to the bridge.

It's always an agonizing decision to make but I feel it was the right one.

I just wanted to thank you to everyone for their advice and for listening. This is the third cat we've lost in less than 2 years (the others due to other illnesses).

For statistics, Norman was 5 years old but I don't know how long he was FELV+ (was only initially tested 2 years ago). It's such a horrible disease, I hope someday some of my money can go to research.

For now, we're going to retest our other three cats, hope they continue to be negative and go from there. I know there will be more furkids in our lives.

Thank you for listening.

Robin

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RE: AC - cats marking

Title: Message

What a
riot! What an amazing little character!

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On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005
12:27 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: AC -
cats marking
NOPE, he was just a plain ol' little med-haired black and white who was
absolutely certain that he was a pure bred! His father was a big
oldblack (burmese mix) farm cat...his mom a tortie feral. (he passed
this last March) He would sit on the edge of the tub each night and play
in the water, dip his (monkey) tail in...curl it back up and shoot the water
across the room at his his sisters (looked like one of those paper party favors
that you blow on to unravel)...and of course EVERY spicot in the house was his
very own drinking fountain.
:-)

T
TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how
funny--is he a maine coon, or have coonie in his background?they're
notorious for loving water and LIKING the squirt bottle!--
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Re: Fwd: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten -Attention Kat

2005-06-16 Thread Kat

Hi,
I'm the one who is picking up the blind kitty from Teresa.
My name is Kat Mundell and I do volunteer, rescue and fostering
with Noah's Ark Animal Welfare Association in Ledgewood, NJ.
(a no kill shelter).
The shelter's number is (973) 347-0378 in case you'd like to
call them and verify who I am.
Their hours are M-TH 11:00am - 2:30pm
F-SU 11:00am - 3:30pm
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Joan Doljan wrote:

 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Joan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Fwd: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten
 -Attention Kat



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:21:37 EDT
 Subject: [NJCares] Attention: Noah's Ark Rescue / Blind Kitten

 Hi,

 I was told by Teresa, who has the blind kitten in NY, that a volunteer from
 Noah's Ark rescue in NJ would be taking him this week. Teresa does not even
 know  the last name of the person she is giving the kitten to. Could someone
 from  Noah's Ark please confirm that you are, indeed, picking up the blind
 kitten? She said the person who is picking him up is named Cat.

 Thanks!
 Shell


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Re: Any more animal communication questions?


Gloria and Susan,
I just wanted you to know my thoughts and prayers are with you for 
Smokey's safe return.  When one of Sally's cats went missing, she 
contacted an AC and had the AC tell the cat that when she heard Sally's 
voice calling her, she should meow back.  It worked!  Sally found the 
poor baby stuck very high in a neighbor's tree that she couldn't figure 
out how to get down of.

Nina

Gloria Lane wrote:

Yes!  Susan and I are looking for a lost cat (again) - Smokey, a  
Siamese cat.  It's in a wooded area, nice residential area, but backs  
up on the woods near the freeway.  We want to know if he's alive and  
where to look.  Should I email you privately?


Gloria

Re: pls add Norman to the CLS

2005-06-16 Thread Joan Doljan

Robin,

Please accept my sincere sympathies for your loss. Also, thank you for giving him such good care and a loving home.

JoanRobin Sarafinchan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I've been off and on the list since one of our cats tested positive almost 2 years ago. Norman was quite healthy up until a month ago when he became lethargic and his appetite diminished.

Blood work showed him to be anemic (13) so we did a transfusion which improved his condition a bit for a few weeks but he still wasn't eating much and hadn't much energy.

Tuesday night suddenly he could no longer stand up and seemed in real distress so we took him to the vet in the morning and helped him cross over to the bridge.

It's always an agonizing decision to make but I feel it was the right one.

I just wanted to thank you to everyone for their advice and for listening. This is the third cat we've lost in less than 2 years (the others due to other illnesses).

For statistics, Norman was 5 years old but I don't know how long he was FELV+ (was only initially tested 2 years ago). It's such a horrible disease, I hope someday some of my money can go to research.

For now, we're going to retest our other three cats, hope they continue to be negative and go from there. I know there will be more furkids in our lives.

Thank you for listening.

Robin

Tamara's Quintapus


Tamara,
It's nice to hear you relaying fun memories of your darling Quintapus.  
You should write some of these down, he was a special man, it would be 
wonderful to share how special he was with others.  Hey, maybe a 
children's book, I bet kids and the parents would get such a kick out of 
his antics!  (Gloria was just talking about a kid's book).  It would be 
a wonderful legacy to help educate the worth of our Felv darlings to 
those who still think it's appropriate to euthanise them when 
diagnosed.  Do you have any artist friends who could draw the pictures?  
Think about it, okay?

Nina

tamara stickler wrote:

NOPE, he was just a plain ol' little med-haired black and white who 
was absolutely certain that he was a pure bred!  His father was a big 
old black (burmese mix) farm cat...his mom a tortie feral.  (he passed 
this last March)  He would sit on the edge of the tub each night and 
play in the water, dip his (monkey) tail in...curl it back up and 
shoot the water across the room at his his sisters (looked like one of 
those paper party favors that you blow on to unravel)...and of course 
EVERY spicot in the house was his very own drinking fountain.

 :-)

Re: OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email gothru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area?

2005-06-16 Thread Barbara Lowe

thanks. i never saw a single one. I should have known something was up as i
didnt' have one single email for over 6 hours.

- Original Message -
From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email
gothru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area?

 there were a number of answers yesterday, barbara! mine was: i have
 friends in siamese rescue down there who might have info/be able to
 help research it. other folks had other options.

 On 6/16/05, Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  never saw my first email get to the group so asking again. need to check
out
  a rescue in the Lake Okeechobee area-anyone know anyone there that
could
  even just drive by to see if this is a hoarder situatin or really a
rescue?
  my friend who donates-was sent articles that the pound had been closed
due
  to horrendous practices so people keep dumping animals on this one woman
  rescue
  thanks for any help.
  barbara

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Carla - marking behavior


Hi Carla,
Okay, here's my two cents for what it's worth.  I have found that making 
is done when a cat is generally insecure, or when they are upset about 
changes in the household, occasionally a bully in the household will 
employ the tactic as well.  While scolding, squirting, and beaning them 
with lemon soaked nerf balls, might be effective with some, the ones 
that are insecure to begin with will only become more concerned with 
their safety and the dangers in the environment.  Whatever the 
motivation, marking makes them feel more comfortable and more in 
control.  If the place smells more like them, it's less threatening.  
It's also a message to others; hey, I belong here too!


I think Kat is right about the visualization, you want to be careful 
about what signals you're sending!  I would also start to let him know 
that he's very special and very safe.  I'd ask the other cats in the 
household to help him feel welcome as long as he's in your home.  I'd 
give him special attention time, and if you have a place that he can be 
alone with you, I'd take him in there everyday at the same time to give 
him cuddles, play with him, or feed him special treats, (whatever you 
have found to be important to him), you don't have to spend a lot of 
time, 5 to 10 minutes would be enough.  When you catch him spraying, 
stop him with a calm, but firm admonishment, and get him to lower his 
tail without fleeing from your presence.  I'd then stroke him gently and 
tell him that while you understand his reasons for marking, you don't 
approve of that sort of thing, that while it smells good to him, it 
smells very strong to you and it's a health hazard to the rest of the 
family.  Tell him he has no reason to be concerned for his safety, that 
he's going to stay with you for as long as it takes to find his forever 
home.  Let him know if he continues to mark, he'll have to spend alone 
time in his special place, (the one you spend time with him in).  If he 
continues to mark, and when you catch him at it, take him to his room, 
tell him that this behavior is not acceptable and he can't be in general 
population if he continues, (it's just a time-out don't leave him in 
there longer than 10 minutes, or so).  One other tip that has helped 
before, put extra litter boxes in the spots that he likes to mark.  This 
doesn't sound like an elimination problem, but it might suffice to be 
able to eliminate in his favorite spots.


I hope you get a handle on this, nothing sends cats boomeranging back to 
a foster like litterbox aversion and marking!


Good luck, let me know what works,
Nina


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Kat,

I have a question not sure if you can answer this but I have a cat 
bengal that came to the house one day. 

I have him up for adoption but he had some health issues so I was 
holding back on adopting meanwhile he is best buds with one of 
my cats. 

He has know started to mark places in the house. Most of the 
places where places the cat that was marking (that stopped).


My question is do you know if he is unhappy here, has he always 
done this is he trying to tell me something. I had him tested for 
urine. I had complete blood work done he drinks like a horse too!


He knows better cos if I see him and he is gonna start I yell and he 
runs like he knows this is not right.


Any ideas you can see

Thanks
Carla

Re: Tamara's Quintapus

2005-06-16 Thread tamara stickler

Actually Nina, I AM an illustrator/sculptor. The major problem with getting a book published these days...all the publishing houses want are celeberty authors, and they all prefer to use their own illustrators. I get good feed back, but the answer is always the samewithout representation (agent) or a celeb. author or illustrator, they just aren't interested, even tho I've been told they did like the stories and illustrations.

But its a nice thought. (While I agree that Felv cats shouldn't be put down because of their health issuesQuintapus wasn't an Felv cathe had heart, asthma and CRF problems instead.)Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tamara,It's nice to hear you relaying fun memories of your darling Quintapus. You should write some of these down, he was a special man, it would be wonderful to share how special he was with others. Hey, maybe a children's book, I bet kids and the parents would get such a kick out of his antics! (Gloria was just talking about a kid's book). It would be a wonderful legacy to help educate the worth of our Felv darlings to those who still think it's appropriate to euthanise them when diagnosed. Do you have any artist friends who could draw the pictures? Think about it, okay?Ninatamara stickler wrote: NOPE, he was just a plain ol' little med-haired black and white who was absolutely certain that he was a pure bred! His father was a big old black (burmese mix) farm cat...his mom a tortie feral. (he passed
this last March) He would sit on the edge of the tub each night and play in the water, dip his (monkey) tail in...curl it back up and shoot the water across the room at his his sisters (looked like one of those paper party favors that you blow on to unravel)...and of course EVERY spicot in the house was his very own drinking fountain. :-)
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RE: Carla - marking behavior

I am sorry, I have not read all the posting on this topic, yet but -have
you heard of the product called Feliway to stop marking - it's said that
there is about 80% of success rate to stop marketing by using it - I am
attaching the link to the website - what it is that a diffuser (or spray
bottle) will generate a smell in the room where cats won't feel like
they need to do marking (please read the website since it will explain
better) -

I have marking problems at my house, too.  I have about 4 cats (3 boys
and 1 girl) who do markings- none of them used to do it before, just
that when we integrated a couple of cats a several months ago, they all
started doing so, which is a nightmare for the obvious reasons - and I
tried Feliway, and I feel like that they stopped spraying at the place I
sprayed Feliway on - again, it takes about 6 months or so to stop
completely and you will have to continue to use it - and I haven't been
discipline about it. 

In case, you find it helpful, I wanted to share.

http://www.catfaeries.com/feliway.html


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Carla - marking behavior

Hi Carla,
Okay, here's my two cents for what it's worth.  I have found that making

is done when a cat is generally insecure, or when they are upset about 
changes in the household, occasionally a bully in the household will 
employ the tactic as well.  While scolding, squirting, and beaning them 
with lemon soaked nerf balls, might be effective with some, the ones 
that are insecure to begin with will only become more concerned with 
their safety and the dangers in the environment.  Whatever the 
motivation, marking makes them feel more comfortable and more in 
control.  If the place smells more like them, it's less threatening.  
It's also a message to others; hey, I belong here too!

I think Kat is right about the visualization, you want to be careful 
about what signals you're sending!  I would also start to let him know 
that he's very special and very safe.  I'd ask the other cats in the 
household to help him feel welcome as long as he's in your home.  I'd 
give him special attention time, and if you have a place that he can be 
alone with you, I'd take him in there everyday at the same time to give 
him cuddles, play with him, or feed him special treats, (whatever you 
have found to be important to him), you don't have to spend a lot of 
time, 5 to 10 minutes would be enough.  When you catch him spraying, 
stop him with a calm, but firm admonishment, and get him to lower his 
tail without fleeing from your presence.  I'd then stroke him gently and

tell him that while you understand his reasons for marking, you don't 
approve of that sort of thing, that while it smells good to him, it 
smells very strong to you and it's a health hazard to the rest of the 
family.  Tell him he has no reason to be concerned for his safety, that 
he's going to stay with you for as long as it takes to find his forever 
home.  Let him know if he continues to mark, he'll have to spend alone 
time in his special place, (the one you spend time with him in).  If he 
continues to mark, and when you catch him at it, take him to his room, 
tell him that this behavior is not acceptable and he can't be in general

population if he continues, (it's just a time-out don't leave him in 
there longer than 10 minutes, or so).  One other tip that has helped 
before, put extra litter boxes in the spots that he likes to mark.  This

doesn't sound like an elimination problem, but it might suffice to be 
able to eliminate in his favorite spots.

I hope you get a handle on this, nothing sends cats boomeranging back to

a foster like litterbox aversion and marking!

Good luck, let me know what works,
Nina


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Kat,

I have a question not sure if you can answer this but I have a cat 
bengal that came to the house one day. 

I have him up for adoption but he had some health issues so I was 
holding back on adopting meanwhile he is best buds with one of 
my cats. 

He has know started to mark places in the house. Most of the 
places where places the cat that was marking (that stopped).

My question is do you know if he is unhappy here, has he always 
done this is he trying to tell me something. I had him tested for 
urine. I had complete blood work done he drinks like a horse too!

He knows better cos if I see him and he is gonna start I yell and he 
runs like he knows this is not right.

Any ideas you can see

Thanks
Carla

Re: Carla - marking behaviorNina

Nina

Thanks for your input

The new cat is marking one I think it's cos I think he is trying to 
show he belongs and has marked in the place where the other two 
sleep on the walls near the cage they sleep. 

I think he is trying to let them know he is there. Now they all have 
seemed to be ok but Cheetah I think has issues that were not 
address earlier as he was neutered late, indoor/outdoor declawed 
cat! He has the 3 strikes the 1st time I caught him he didn't know 
he was doing wrong.

I keep him separate while I am not home. I think this weekend or 
next I will put his crate in the room with the other two so this way 
they can maybe get the sense they are all there together. I crate 
my fosters at night (can't deal will the high volume of cats at night) 
Day time Cheetah is in our garage till I get home and the others are 
in the house. 

So that may be the next step, but I agree with the sending 
messages.

Thanks again
Carla

Re: Pekoe - Check Up Blood Work


Good to know - thanks MC

TenHouseCats wrote:


i don't believe that it is true that once they test positive on the
IFA they won't throw it off--i don't have the reference in front of
me, but in the merck veterinary manual, i believe, it gave a figure of
something like 7 months or so that it can be showing up on an IFA
while the body is still processing it out

Please - I need another big prayer for George!!




Hi, I 
mentioned to you a little bit, but I have been trying to capture one of my feral 
boys, George for a couple of weeks now, I feel like he is getting thinner to me, 
and hebarelyeats (he sips juice from fish cans soup) and 
I am just so worried about this guy  He does not go into a trap since I screwed 
it up last time, so I feel like the only chance I have in order to catch him is 
with a fish net  I caught three cats in the pat with fish net  its more 
riskier than trap, but I feel like I shouldnt wait too long to catch him 
because of his health conditionand don't know any other waythat I can - I also have 
anappointment to talk to Dr. Ryan (AC)so that I can find out more 
about his condition now - and if she has any meditation or suggestions as 
to how I can catch him succesfully before it's too late 
-

According 
to Jasmine (AC) whom I 
spoke with a couple of weeks ago, he has a moderate kidney 
problem and might have an infection with one of his long teeth (I have given 
some antibiotics in his food for a couple of time)  he is also willing to be 
adopted by me (at least he is willing to give a try) 
Please pray that I can successfully 
catch him very soon and he will be safe and Ok until I can catch him! 
Thank you!

Hideyo

Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

2005-06-16 Thread Cherie A Gabbert

You got it, I am sending positive vibes your way...keep us informedCherieHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi, I mentioned to you a little bit, but I have been trying to capture one of my feral boys, George for a couple of weeks now, I feel like he is getting thinner to me, and hebarelyeats (he sips juice from fish can?s soup) and I am just so worried about this guy ? He does not go into a trap since I screwed it up last time, so I feel like the only chance I have in order to catch him is with a fish net ? I caught three cats in the pat with fish net ? it?s more riskier than trap, but I feel like I shouldn?t wait too long to catch him because of his health condition?and don't know any other waythat I can - I also have anappointment to talk to Dr. Ryan (AC)so that I can find out more about his
 condition now - and if she has any meditation or suggestions as to how I can catch him succesfully before it's too late -

According to Jasmine (AC) whom I spoke with a couple of weeks ago, he has a moderate kidney problem and might have an infection with one of his long teeth (I have given some antibiotics in his food for a couple of time) ? he is also willing to be adopted by me (at least he is willing to give a try) ?
Please pray that I can successfully catch him very soon and he will be safe and Ok until I can catch him! Thank you!

Hideyo Have a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

2005-06-16 Thread Kat

Dear Hideyo,
I too hope you convince George to let you catch him soon.

Have you really scrubbed out the trap and then sprayed it
with some feliway and sprinkled catnip all over it?
Sometimes you really have to change the smell of the trap.

Is the trap inside a large black garbage bag that is taped
around it to keep it from flapping in the wind?  Some cats
find the safety of a hole more reassuring than an open trap.

Good luck!
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:50 -0600
 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

 Hi, I mentioned to you a little bit, but I have been trying to capture
 one of my feral boys, George for a couple of weeks now, I feel like he
 is getting thinner to me, and he barely  eats (he sips juice from fish
 can's soup) and I am just so worried about this guy - He does not go
 into a trap since I screwed it up last time, so I feel like the only
 chance I have in order to catch him is with a fish net - I caught three
 cats in the pat with fish net - it's more riskier than trap, but I feel
 like I shouldn't wait too long to catch him because of his health
 condition- and don't know any other way that I can - I also have an
 appointment to talk to Dr. Ryan (AC) so that I can find out more about
 his condition now -  and if she has any meditation or suggestions as to
 how I can catch him succesfully before it's too late -

 According to Jasmine (AC)  whom I spoke with a couple of weeks ago , he
 has a moderate kidney problem and might have an infection with one of
 his long teeth (I have given some antibiotics in his food for a couple
 of time) - he is also willing to be adopted by me (at least he is
 willing to give a try) -

 Please pray that I can successfully catch him very soon and he will be
 safe and Ok until I can catch him!   Thank you!



 Hideyo

RE: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!









Thank you!











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cherie A Gabbert
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:04
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Please - I need
another big prayer for George!!







You got it, I am sending positive vibes your way...keep us informed
Cherie
Hideyo
 Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

Hi, I mentioned to you a little bit, but I have been trying
to capture one of my feral boys, George for a couple of weeks now, I feel like
he is getting thinner to me, and hebarelyeats (he sips juice from fish
cans soup) and I am just so worried about this guy  He does not
go into a trap since I screwed it up last time, so I feel like the only chance
I have in order to catch him is with a fish net  I caught three cats in
the pat with fish net  its more riskier than trap, but I feel
like I shouldnt wait too long to catch him because of his health
conditionand don't know
any other waythat I can - I also have anappointment to talk to Dr.
Ryan (AC)so that I can find out more about his condition now - and
if she has any meditation or suggestions as to how I can catch him succesfully
before it's too late -

According to Jasmine (AC) whom I spoke with a couple of weeks ago,
he has a moderate kidney problem and might have an infection with one of his
long teeth (I have given some antibiotics in his food for a couple of time)
 he is also willing to be adopted by me (at least he is willing to give
a try) 

Please pray that I can successfully catch him very soon and
he will be safe and Ok until I can catch him! Thank you!



Hideyo 







Have a purrfect day





Cherie

Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread TatorBunz



I have always used water bottles and squirt guns. They do know what those items are. I have one that literally hates water. I don't have any qualms in using them either. 
Also, use them when they are picking on each other at times. Not very often though.

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Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread TatorBunz





I agree that is funny!
I will try this as well...nerf ball great idea!

In a message dated 6/16/2005 9:38:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That's hilarious! What a cutie--he deservedto have that chicken!

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:20 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: AC - cats marking
If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

(We tried squirt bottles to keep Quintapus off the counter tops to no avail. When he was a kitten-adolescent, Mom got so frustrated one evening when he hopped up to help himself to chicken that she was cooking for dinner that she turned the kitchen sink hose/rinser on himhe just LEANED into it  shut his eyes  started purring!..we were laughing so hard we were crying. So we had to come up with an alternative. The nerf ball worked better for us, but only AFTER we soaked and dryed the lemon juice to it.)
T


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RE: flower and petal

Title: Message

Peggy,

If it
were me, I would bring Flower home. She was already exposed, so if she has FeLV,
it will make no difference. If she's negative after all the previous exposure
it's extremely unlikely that she willnow become positive.

Keeping them apart probably means they're both depressed and unhappy--not
just Petal.
But
see what others say. I'm sure you'll have lots of replies to help you make the
decision.
hugs,
Kerry

-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peggy RankinSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:26
PMTo: feline friendsSubject: flower and
petal

I want to say thank you all, for your thoughts and words.to answer
some of your questions Thorne was introduced to the family last
July. Flower has been with me for 13 years and Petal for the last 5.
They have all lived together for this time. MY concerns are for Petals sadness
she wants to be contstanly petted and before she didn't want anything to
dowith me. My house is so quite now, and Petal seems lost. Can
I really bring Flower home? Is there anything Else I can do To ease petals
depression? Thank you again for the support.
Peggy

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Re: AC - cats marking

2005-06-16 Thread Barbara Baass

My computer is down I need to get it fixed. How do I unsubscribe until I can get it up and runing again?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I agree that is funny!
I will try this as well...nerf ball great idea!

In a message dated 6/16/2005 9:38:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That's hilarious! What a cutie--he deservedto have that chicken!

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara sticklerSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 11:20 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: AC - cats marking
If the squirt bottle doesn't work...use a soft-light-weight foam ball and wing it at him. (I know it sound aweful to throw anything at your animal...which is why I said only a soft foam ball that can't possible hurt them. It will distract without injuringyou can always soak it in lemon juice, but ONLY use it DRY. The lemon smell will be on the ball- cats don't like citrus and it will further help to reinforce the experience as an unpleasant one without causing lasting damage.

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Re: pls add Norman to the CLS

2005-06-16 Thread TatorBunz



Robin,
 I'm so sorry to hear about your loss of "Norman" you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
Thank you for caring for him and the others.
I too would like to see money go into research for this heartbreaking disease. I would donate what I could to help in finding a cure.

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Re: This is what the vet said...

2005-06-16 Thread Lewis Faye

When my cat tested positive, they tested with the IFA the same day. Of course, my cat was dreadfully ill. With my negative cats that were exposed, they had me have tests every 90 days for a year. Then I moved to every six months for a year. I am due now for another test and if it is neg, I will go to once a year.Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I never heard of having to wait 30 days, but yes there are some cats that can "throw it off" it depends if Tom was born with it or contracted it and then was tested right after, one of my cats supposedly had it in his bone marrow, and they could tell that because of the number of platlets he had, (I am not sure if I am relaying this correctly). Hope in some off handed way this helped.
Cherie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just got back from the vet with Tom... You all know so much, tell me what you think about what he said. Tom originally tested + on last Friday, but I read an article that they should have a retest right away with a different type of test (IFA, since Tom had a ELISA snap test). The vet said that no, we cannot retest until 30 days, but then if it is negative, all that means is that it may have moved to his marrow. I was hoping to hear that some cats fight it off. I think I read that too. So all we really did was rabies/distemper and a heartworm test. Does all this sound right? There is another vet in the same office that is more specialized with cats, but he was in surgery today.Thanks for any tips!Erika Tom
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RE: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

No, I haven't - I am using a dog trap, which is different one from he
got caught earlier - but I have been leaving the flap door open with a
bungee code and put the food at the very end corner, and he eats off of
it - but whenever I put the food in too middle area, then he gets
nervous and does not want to go in to eat - I was going to be patient
and move the food bowl a little by a little so that he will eventually
go in there, then I can close the flap door manually (with a long string
attached to the door) - but I am also so worried about his condition and
don't want to wait too long - because if he does not have an appetite, a
trap won't do any good - but I also hate to take a chance because I
could scare him, and not catch him if I use the fish net - and it's very
difficult to transfer from the fish net to something else by yourself -

I will try the catnip though since I much prefer to catch him in a trap
- I was also thinking of putting sod (grass patch) at the bottom so that
he really can't tell the border of the trap - what do you think?

He was sleeping for a while in my garden and he was just so cute - but I
also know that he is an older guy, and would like a place to rest
without worrying about being chased by others - 

Thank you, Kat, please send me and George a good energy so that we can
be together all the time!!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

Dear Hideyo,
I too hope you convince George to let you catch him soon.

Have you really scrubbed out the trap and then sprayed it
with some feliway and sprinkled catnip all over it?
Sometimes you really have to change the smell of the trap.

Is the trap inside a large black garbage bag that is taped
around it to keep it from flapping in the wind?  Some cats
find the safety of a hole more reassuring than an open trap.

Good luck!
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

 Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:50 -0600
 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

 Hi, I mentioned to you a little bit, but I have been trying to capture
 one of my feral boys, George for a couple of weeks now, I feel like he
 is getting thinner to me, and he barely  eats (he sips juice from fish
 can's soup) and I am just so worried about this guy - He does not go
 into a trap since I screwed it up last time, so I feel like the only
 chance I have in order to catch him is with a fish net - I caught
three
 cats in the pat with fish net - it's more riskier than trap, but I
feel
 like I shouldn't wait too long to catch him because of his health
 condition- and don't know any other way that I can - I also have an
 appointment to talk to Dr. Ryan (AC) so that I can find out more about
 his condition now -  and if she has any meditation or suggestions as
to
 how I can catch him succesfully before it's too late -

 According to Jasmine (AC)  whom I spoke with a couple of weeks ago ,
he
 has a moderate kidney problem and might have an infection with one of
 his long teeth (I have given some antibiotics in his food for a couple
 of time) - he is also willing to be adopted by me (at least he is
 willing to give a try) -

 Please pray that I can successfully catch him very soon and he will be
 safe and Ok until I can catch him!   Thank you!



 Hideyo

RE: pls add Norman to the CLS

Robin, I am so very sorry for your lose of Norman and two other babies
of yours - I am crying reading your email - I can (and so does everyone
else on the list) feel your sorrow and pain by losing him - it's just
such a horrible disease, and sometime it happens too quickly -

Please know that Norman and other babies are in angel's hands with no
more pain, but just lots of love for you -

Hugs,

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: pls add Norman to the CLS

Hello Robin,
I'm so sorry to hear about your babies.  Losing three loved ones in such

a short time must be so hard to comprehend.   I can only imagine the 
sadness and disbelief you and your family must be going through.  Thank 
you for taking the time and the considerable energy it takes to let us 
know about Norman, it was very generous of you to share his story.  I'm 
sure Norman and your other Angels in fur will be by your side when you 
are ready to introduce any lucky new members that come into your home.
Sending healing energy and much love to you all,
Nina

Robin Sarafinchan wrote:

 I've been off and on the list since one of our cats tested positive 
 almost 2 years ago.  Norman was quite healthy up until a month ago 
 when he became lethargic and his appetite diminished.
  
 Blood work showed him to be anemic (13) so we did a transfusion which 
 improved his condition a bit for a few weeks but he still wasn't 
 eating much and hadn't much energy.
  
 Tuesday night suddenly he could no longer stand up and seemed in real 
 distress so we took him to the vet in the morning and helped him cross

 over to the bridge.
  
 It's always an agonizing decision to make but I feel it was the right
one.
  
 I just wanted to thank you to everyone for their advice and for 
 listening.  This is the third cat we've lost in less than 2 years (the

 others due to other illnesses).
  
 For statistics, Norman was 5 years old but I don't know how long he 
 was FELV+ (was only initially tested 2 years ago).  It's such a 
 horrible disease, I hope someday some of my money can go to research.
  
 For now, we're going to retest our other three cats, hope they 
 continue to be negative and go from there.   I know there will be more

 furkids in our lives.
  
 Thank you for listening.
  
 Robin

RE: flower and petal

Title: Message








Peggy, I understand what you are going
through  I personally would have to agree with Kerry. I know its
still a difficult decision to make either way, but I would bring Flower home 
simply because thats where she belongs and thats where she wants
to be  and simply because they want to be together, including yourself,
and because all of you are a family.



I feel that any decisions you make, theres
going to be some type of consequences  we just never know what its
going to be, but do what your heart tells you to do - with my animals, I try to
take a day by day  so whenever theres a difficult decision, I
would ask myself, if everything were to end today, right now, what I would do 
I know you are worried about health of the future of everyone, and you are
entitled to, but regardless what happens, you guys have been a family together 
there is a good chance that she will not become positive as Kerry said 
but the quality of your life along with your babies probably outweighs than the
quantity of life sometimes  and lets not get scared of this damn
virus, Peggy  let it not destroy your family - lets be brave and
think that we are going to beat this damn disease  your positive
thinking is going to help everyone in your family to go through it  I am
only telling you this from my sisters dog experience, which is just amazing
to me, my sisters dog in Japan was diagnosed with lymph cancer, and the
vet gave only 6 months to live, which was about 10 years ago  cancer is
still there, but she is living happily with my sister even now  she outlived
all her healthy siblings and other families  and you know why I think 
because my sister believed that  I am not going to let the damn cancer
to take my baby away  I am going to fight !  she stopped giving any
drugs and just have been feeding him natural stuff  again my sister has
some type of secret energy, I believe, because this is just a miracle  



Also there is this guys who is a life
coach (he is an author, too)  he says contemplate your self with
the situation, in which you wish to produce, and it will happen.



Peggy, imagine the picture that all of you
babies are together and living healthfully and happily with you  and this
is what you are going to get  and trust that.



No matter what you decide to do, please
know that we are all here for you and for your babies!



Hugs,



Hideyo











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:32
PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: flower and petal







Peggy, 





If it were me, I would bring Flower home.
She was already exposed, so if she has FeLV, it will make no difference. If
she's negative after all the previous exposure it's extremely unlikely that she
willnow become positive. 





Keeping them apart probably means they're
both depressed and unhappy--not just Petal. 





But see what others say. I'm sure you'll
have lots of replies to help you make the decision.





hugs, Kerry





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peggy Rankin
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:26
PM
To: feline friends
Subject: flower and petal









I want to say thank you all, for your thoughts and words.to
answer some of your questions Thorne was introduced to the family last
July. Flower has been with me for 13 years and Petal for the last
5. They have all lived together for this time. MY concerns are for Petals
sadness she wants to be contstanly petted and before she didn't want anything
to dowith me. My house is so quite now, and Petal seems lost.
Can I really bring Flower home? Is there anything Else I can do To ease
petals depression? Thank you again for the support.





Peggy













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Re: flower and petal


Peggy,
I'm sorry about your losing Thorne.  Such cute names, they all fit 
together so well, I'm guessing the cats are like that too.  If I were 
you, I'd bring Flower home.  The three cats were together for a long 
time, I think if Flower were going to become positive, she probably 
would have already.  Petal may have had the virus when she came to you, 
you can't know that she got it from Thorne.  Is Flower vaccinated 
against FelV?  Is she healthy and strong?  I understand your wanting to 
protect Flower, but I think the quality of life is as important, maybe 
even more, than the quantity.  She must be missing you and Petal,  and 
wondering why she's been taken away.  You are all mourning the loss of 
Thorne, it's such a shame to have the other two separated as well.  No 
one can guarantee you Flower's safety, but we never have any guarantees 
in this life anyway.  My thoughts are with you.

Nina

Peggy Rankin wrote:

I want to say thank you all, for your thoughts and words. to answer 
some of your questions  Thorne was introduced to the family last 
July.  Flower has been with me for 13 years and Petal for the last 5.  
They have all lived together for this time. MY concerns are for Petals 
sadness she wants to be contstanly petted and before she didn't want 
anything to do with me.  My house is so quite now, and Petal seems 
lost.  Can I really bring Flower home?  Is there anything Else I can 
do To ease petals depression?  Thank you again for the support.

Peggy


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Re: pls add Norman to the CLS

2005-06-16 Thread Terri Brown

Goodnight, sweet Norman...

=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=

Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

- Original Message -
From: Hideyo Yamamoto
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:53
PM
Subject: RE: pls add Norman to the
CLS
Robin, I am so very sorry for your lose of Norman and two other
babiesof yours - I am crying reading your email - I can (and so does
everyoneelse on the list) feel your sorrow and pain by losing him - it's
justsuch a horrible disease, and sometime it happens too quickly
-Please know that Norman and other babies are in angel's hands with
nomore pain, but just lots of love for you
-Hugs,Hideyo-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of NinaSent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:22 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject:
Re: pls add Norman to the CLSHello Robin,I'm so sorry to hear
about your babies. Losing three loved ones in sucha short time
must be so hard to comprehend. I can only imagine the sadness
and disbelief you and your family must be going through. Thank you
for taking the time and the considerable energy it takes to let us know
about Norman, it was very generous of you to share his story. I'm
sure Norman and your other Angels in fur will be by your side when you
are ready to introduce any lucky new members that come into your
home.Sending healing energy and much love to you all,NinaRobin
Sarafinchan wrote: I've been off and on the list since one of our
cats tested positive almost 2 years ago. Norman was quite
healthy up until a month ago when he became lethargic and his
appetite diminished. Blood work showed him to be anemic
(13) so we did a transfusion which improved his condition a bit for a
few weeks but he still wasn't eating much and hadn't much
energy. Tuesday night suddenly he could no longer stand
up and seemed in real distress so we took him to the vet in the
morning and helped him cross over to the bridge.
It's always an agonizing decision to make but I feel it was the
rightone. I just wanted to thank you to everyone
for their advice and for listening. This is the third cat we've
lost in less than 2 years (the others due to other
illnesses). For statistics, Norman was 5 years old but
I don't know how long he was FELV+ (was only initially tested 2 years
ago). It's such a horrible disease, I hope someday some of my
money can go to research. For now, we're going to
retest our other three cats, hope they continue to be negative and go
from there. I know there will be more furkids in our
lives. Thank you for listening.
Robin

healing vibes

2005-06-16 Thread Terri Brown




I've been so busy!

Welcome to all new members -- sorry I haven't had time to post individual 
messages. June is a busy month for me.

Healing vibes to all sick furkids...

=^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 
furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=

Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

Sometimes I use a towel on the bottom of the trap to mask the wire 
grid.  Lay a light towel from the opening to the back of the trap, make 
sure the towel won't get caught between the trip and the floor of the 
trap, or the towel is so heavy that it prevents the trip from closing 
the trap.  If I have a few days to get them used to it, I'll block the 
trap open, (like you've been doing) and drape the towel so that it's on 
the ground and in the trap as well, (to get them used to stepping and 
eating off the towel).


Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:


No, I haven't - I am using a dog trap, which is different one from he
got caught earlier - but I have been leaving the flap door open with a
bungee code and put the food at the very end corner, and he eats off of
it - but whenever I put the food in too middle area, then he gets
nervous and does not want to go in to eat - I was going to be patient
and move the food bowl a little by a little so that he will eventually
go in there, then I can close the flap door manually (with a long string
attached to the door) - but I am also so worried about his condition and
don't want to wait too long - because if he does not have an appetite, a
trap won't do any good - but I also hate to take a chance because I
could scare him, and not catch him if I use the fish net - and it's very
difficult to transfer from the fish net to something else by yourself -

I will try the catnip though since I much prefer to catch him in a trap
- I was also thinking of putting sod (grass patch) at the bottom so that
he really can't tell the border of the trap - what do you think?

He was sleeping for a while in my garden and he was just so cute - but I
also know that he is an older guy, and would like a place to rest
without worrying about being chased by others - 


Thank you, Kat, please send me and George a good energy so that we can
be together all the time!!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

Dear Hideyo,
I too hope you convince George to let you catch him soon.

Have you really scrubbed out the trap and then sprayed it
with some feliway and sprinkled catnip all over it?
Sometimes you really have to change the smell of the trap.

Is the trap inside a large black garbage bag that is taped
around it to keep it from flapping in the wind?  Some cats
find the safety of a hole more reassuring than an open trap.

Good luck!
Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

 


Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:55:50 -0600
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

Hi, I mentioned to you a little bit, but I have been trying to capture
one of my feral boys, George for a couple of weeks now, I feel like he
is getting thinner to me, and he barely  eats (he sips juice from fish
can's soup) and I am just so worried about this guy - He does not go
into a trap since I screwed it up last time, so I feel like the only
chance I have in order to catch him is with a fish net - I caught
   


three
 


cats in the pat with fish net - it's more riskier than trap, but I
   


feel
 


like I shouldn't wait too long to catch him because of his health
condition- and don't know any other way that I can - I also have an
appointment to talk to Dr. Ryan (AC) so that I can find out more about
his condition now -  and if she has any meditation or suggestions as
   


to
 


how I can catch him succesfully before it's too late -

According to Jasmine (AC)  whom I spoke with a couple of weeks ago ,
   


he
 


has a moderate kidney problem and might have an infection with one of
his long teeth (I have given some antibiotics in his food for a couple
of time) - he is also willing to be adopted by me (at least he is
willing to give a try) -

Please pray that I can successfully catch him very soon and he will be
safe and Ok until I can catch him!   Thank you!



Hideyo

Bramble

2005-06-16 Thread Lomaxturtle




The boy was doing so well - I've come home to find he has scratched fur and 
skin off the side of his face over the last couple of hours and it's a big 
chunk. He will need to go back to the vet tomorrow but he is not going to that 
particular vet - I'll demand a different vet. He either has an allergy which I 
suspect as he has scratched around his ears since coming here despite having his 
ears syringed - we can be sure that ear mites are not the problem as he also had 
the revolution treatment. It may also be seizure related though as he also was 
tugging at fur on his leg whilst groomingso I don't know. But saying that 
Minstrel also has a bit of a runny nose and scratches her ears and she hasn't 
got ear mites either. I will try a different food. Hopefully the vet will give 
him a steroid jab to stop the itching.

I am scared because this is what happened to my last FIV girl before we 
knew she was FIV - afterthey withdrew treatment in preparation for 
dermatology her system collapsed. So he most likely has an allergy and seizure 
problems and needs treatment for both. I'm not sure if steroids would interact 
with seizure meds and his heart med.

Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel, Buddy

Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

2005-06-16 Thread Barb Moermond

prayers and strength coming to you and George from me and my boys!Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, I mentioned to you a little bit, but I have been trying to capture one of my feral boys, George for a couple of weeks now, I feel like he is getting thinner to me, and hebarelyeats (he sips juice from fish can?s soup) and I am just so worried about this guy ? He does not go into a trap since I screwed it up last time, so I feel like the only chance I have in order to catch him is with a fish net ? I caught three cats in the pat with fish net ? it?s more riskier than trap, but I feel like I shouldn?t wait too long to catch him because of his health condition?and don't know any other waythat I can - I also have anappointment to talk to Dr. Ryan (AC)so that I can find out more about his
condition now - and if she has any meditation or suggestions as to how I can catch him succesfully before it's too late -

According to Jasmine (AC) whom I spoke with a couple of weeks ago, he has a moderate kidney problem and might have an infection with one of his long teeth (I have given some antibiotics in his food for a couple of time) ? he is also willing to be adopted by me (at least he is willing to give a try) ?
Please pray that I can successfully catch him very soon and he will be safe and Ok until I can catch him! Thank you!

Hideyo Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
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Re: flower and petal

2005-06-16 Thread Barb Moermond

Yes, you can really bring Flower home:)Peggy Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I want to say thank you all, for your thoughts and words.to answer some of your questions Thorne was introduced to the family last July. Flower has been with me for 13 years and Petal for the last 5. They have all lived together for this time. MY concerns are for Petals sadness she wants to be contstanly petted and before she didn't want anything to dowith me. My house is so quite now, and Petal seems lost. Can I really bring Flower home? Is there anything Else I can do To ease petals depression? Thank you again for the support.
Peggy


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Re: flower and petal

i'm with the rest--both in being sorry about the loss of your beloved
one, and about bringing flower home.

cats DO grieve for their companions, and letting the two friends be
together can help everyone heal.

-- 
MaryChristine

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Re: Bramble

2005-06-16 Thread Barb Moermond

Sending strength and healing to you and Bramble and Minstrel from across the pond.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The boy was doing so well - I've come home to find he has scratched fur and skin off the side of his face over the last couple of hours and it's a big chunk. He will need to go back to the vet tomorrow but he is not going to that particular vet - I'll demand a different vet. He either has an allergy which I suspect as he has scratched around his ears since coming here despite having his ears syringed - we can be sure that ear mites are not the problem as he also had the revolution treatment. It may also be seizure related though as he also was tugging at fur on his leg whilst groomingso I don't know. But saying that Minstrel also has a bit of a runny nose and scratches her ears and she hasn't got ear mites either. I will try a different food. Hopefully the vet will give him a steroid jab to stop the itching.

I am scared because this is what happened to my last FIV girl before we knew she was FIV - afterthey withdrew treatment in preparation for dermatology her system collapsed. So he most likely has an allergy and seizure problems and needs treatment for both. I'm not sure if steroids would interact with seizure meds and his heart med.

Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel, BuddyBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
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Re: Tamara's Quintapus

Tamara,

Have you thought of a children's book? Evidently they're easier to get published and make tons of money. Money we all need for our critters!!

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Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

Good luck Hideyo,

I have successfully trapped cats a 2nd time. It's not as easy, but if you let him go without food a bit he'll go in. I would try with the fish net if you've had luck with it in the pas though. It's so hard dealing with ferals. They are just so afraid. : (

tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hideyo

Re: pls add Norman to the CLS

Robin,

I'm so sorry to hear about Norman. It's such a 'lost' feeling you have when you lose so many so close together. Be good to yourself. It takes a lot out of you going through so much grief. I am so sorry, but I'm glad Norman and your other positives found a loving and understanding home.

tonyaRobin Sarafinchan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've been off and on the list since one of our cats tested positive almost 2 years ago. Norman was quite healthy up until a month ago when he became lethargic and his appetite diminished.

Blood work showed him to be anemic (13) so we did a transfusion which improved his condition a bit for a few weeks but he still wasn't eating much and hadn't much energy.

Tuesday night suddenly he could no longer stand up and seemed in real distress so we took him to the vet in the morning and helped him cross over to the bridge.

It's always an agonizing decision to make but I feel it was the right one.

I just wanted to thank you to everyone for their advice and for listening. This is the third cat we've lost in less than 2 years (the others due to other illnesses).

For now, we're going to retest our other three cats, hope they continue to be negative and go from there. I know there will be more furkids in our lives.

Thank you for listening.

Robin

Re: This is what the vet said...

When this first happened to me I retested and retested. I finally stopped. Now I only retest if one of my negatives gets sick. We test immediately to rule that out. Over (it's been about 10 years now nearly) this time I've lost one positive and 4 negatives. Even when my negatives got sick and died from various causes they still tested negative for leukemia. Even one we suspected of having cancer.

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faster breathing

2005-06-16 Thread Lernermichelle



I am feeling stressed about Lucy, and do not know if it is reasonable or I am just paranoid. A few times over the past week, including tonight when I got home from being gone for 2 days, it has seemed to me like her breathing is faster than normal. She is purring all the time when I look carefully at her, so it is purring breaths, but it seems twice as fast as the other cats. I tried to count her breaths but can not see or feel them, only can hear the purrs through her nose. She is otherwise eating, playing, purring, etc. normally. I of course always fear lymphoma because I have lost mine to that. Some of you have had cats with lung tumors. Was this a first symptom, or was there wheezing and visible breathing?
Michelle

Re: Bramble

Michelle,

I hope things go well with poor Bramble at the vet's tomorrow. You'll both be in my thoughts and prayers.
tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The boy was doing so well - I've come home to find he has scratched fur and skin off the side of his face over the last couple of hours and it's a big chunk. He will need to go back to the vet tomorrow but he is not going to that particular vet - I'll demand a different vet. He either has an allergy which I suspect as he has scratched around his ears since coming here despite having his ears syringed - we can be sure that ear mites are not the problem as he also had the revolution treatment. It may also be seizure related though as he also was tugging at fur on his leg whilst groomingso I don't know. But saying that Minstrel also has a bit of a runny nose and scratches her ears and she hasn't got ear mites either. I will try a different food. Hopefully the vet will give him a steroid jab to stop the itching.

I am scared because this is what happened to my last FIV girl before we knew she was FIV - afterthey withdrew treatment in preparation for dermatology her system collapsed. So he most likely has an allergy and seizure problems and needs treatment for both. I'm not sure if steroids would interact with seizure meds and his heart med.

Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel, Buddy

Re: Transfer Factor

2005-06-16 Thread EWagner7701

Nina,
Thank you for the information. Is this a supplement for their immune system? How often do you use it? It sounds wonderful, I just want to make sure I understand what it is. 
Thanks!!
Erika

Re: faster breathing

Michelle,

I hope you're over reacting. I haven't dealt with tumors so I don't know, but my best to you and Lucy.

tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am feeling stressed about Lucy, and do not know if it is reasonable or I am just paranoid. A few times over the past week, including tonight when I got home from being gone for 2 days, it has seemed to me like her breathing is faster than normal. She is purring all the time when I look carefully at her, so it is purring breaths, but it seems twice as fast as the other cats. I tried to count her breaths but can not see or feel them, only can hear the purrs through her nose. She is otherwise eating, playing, purring, etc. normally. I of course always fear lymphoma because I have lost mine to that. Some of you have had cats with lung tumors. Was this a first symptom, or was there wheezing and visible breathing?
Michelle

Re: pls add Norman to the CLS

2005-06-16 Thread EWagner7701

Robin, 
I am sorry to hear about Norman. What a lucky kitty to have had a caring person. 
Erika

When the defining moment comes, either you define the moment, or the moment defines you.

Re: Please - I need another big prayer for George!!

2005-06-16 Thread EWagner7701

Hideyo,
Lots of prayers and thoughts for you and George. Let us know how it goes!
Erika

When the defining moment comes, either you define the moment, or the moment defines you.

OT- Fun Quiz

I imagine everyone would fall into the same category as me. lol. Here's a cute quiz you can take to see how much of a 'cat person' you are!


http://cats.about.com/library/catpersonquiz/blcatpersonquiz.htm?questnum=1cor=2381nl=1

Re: OT- Fun Quiz





Apparently I need to be afraid, very afraid. 
Nina

catatonya wrote:

  I imagine everyone would fall into the same category as me.
lol. Here's a cute quiz you can take to see how much of a 'cat person'
you are!
  
  
  

http://cats.about.com/library/catpersonquiz/blcatpersonquiz.htm?questnum=1cor=2381nl=1

Re: OT- Fun Quiz

2005-06-16 Thread Brenda K. Smith

LOL...me too - I need to be very, very afraid! lol  Thanks for the 
laugh, Tonya.


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