[Felvtalk] Intravenous vitamin C in Pennsylvania
Some people on this board had asked me if I knew of a veterinarian in Pennsylvania who was using intravenous vitamin C in his/her practice and I have located the name of the following practitioner: Rose DiLeva, DVM, Animal Wellness Center, www.altpetdoc.com http://www.altpetdoc.com/ . FYI. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Intravenous vitamin C in Pennsylvania
Some people on this board had asked me if I knew of a veterinarian in Pennsylvania who was using intravenous vitamin C in his/her practice and I have located the name of the following practitioner: Rose DiLeva, DVM, Animal Wellness Center, www.altpetdoc.com http://www.altpetdoc.com/ . FYI. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
-- PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During 2008 -- This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a vet. Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures Bring Pet Death Toll To 21,339 WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters. According to public records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands of PETA workers. Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA as a slaughterhouse. CCF Research Director David Martosko said: PETA hasn't slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony 'animal rights' message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's headquarters building? Martosko added: Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat, using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to the circus? CCF obtained PETA's Animal Record filings since 1998 from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Members of the public can see these documents at PetaKillsAnimals.com. P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears to be a factual story. PETA does a TON of marketing and spends untold sums on glossy campaigns...perhaps they could spend SOME on Well run and well funded animal shelters. My advice: Support your local SPCA, Humane Society or Animal Shelter ..Do not support PETA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Peta Kills Animals
-- PETA Killed 95 Percent of Adoptable Pets in its Care During 2008 -- This is a rather disturbing story forwarded to me by a vet. Hypocritical Animal Rights Group's 2008 Disclosures Bring Pet Death Toll To 21,339 WASHINGTON DC - Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed 95 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2008. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the animal rights group kills an average of 5.8 pets every day at its Norfolk, VA headquarters. According to public records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 2,124 pets last year and placed only seven in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 21,339 dogs and cats have died at the hands of PETA workers. Despite having a $32 million budget, PETA does not operate an adoption shelter. PETA employees make no discernible effort to find homes for the thousands of pets they kill every year. Last year, the Center for Consumer Freedom petitioned Virginia's State Veterinarian to reclassify PETA as a slaughterhouse. CCF Research Director David Martosko said: PETA hasn't slowed down its hypocritical killing machine one bit, but it keeps browbeating the rest of society with a phony 'animal rights' message. What about the rights of the thousands of dogs, cats, puppies, and kittens that die in PETA's headquarters building? Martosko added: Since killing pets is A-OK with PETA, why should anyone listen to their demands about eating meat, using lab rats for medical research, or taking children to the circus? CCF obtained PETA's Animal Record filings since 1998 from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Members of the public can see these documents at PetaKillsAnimals.com. P.S. Completely disturbing, especially as this appears to be a factual story. PETA does a TON of marketing and spends untold sums on glossy campaigns...perhaps they could spend SOME on Well run and well funded animal shelters. My advice: Support your local SPCA, Humane Society or Animal Shelter ..Do not support PETA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
Thanks for sharing your interest and experience, Wendy. I appreciate your positive feedback. FYI, several thousand mg of pure ascorbic acid taken hourly for 24 hours at first notice of any cold symptoms will work even faster to eradicate the cold before it gets any kind of foothold. This also applies to animals, as I give mine both oral vitamin C daily and subcutaneous vitamin C injections at the first sign of a sneeze or sniffle, which is now rare. It is virtually impossible to take too much or give them too much. Interestingly, from a bowel standpoint the body can tolerate (and needs) thousands more milligrams of vitamin C when under stress from illness. The minimum daily intake of vitamin C for prevention of illness and heart disease is 3,000 mg, according to Linus Pauling, so it's easy to see why there is so much illness in this country when the RDA for C is only 70 mg. Most animals (except cats and dogs) make nearly 10,000 mg of vitamin C daily in the liver, while humans make none, and cats and dogs make only the human equivalent of 2800 mg daily. I had a severe rotator cuff tear last year that would put me on the ground writing in pain until it dawned on me that I should be taking three times the amount of vitamin C that I was It is important to note that the best kind of vitamin C to take for this purpose is pure ascorbic acid in powder form without excipients, preservatives, or fillers. Tablet vitamin C is really only intended to be taken at the levels written on the bottle because of these additives and it is really not safe to take drugstore vitamin C at the high levels that Pauling recommended as required by the human body on a daily basis for collagen synthesis and protection from viruses and heart disease. Also, the buffered forms of vitamin C (Ester C, sodium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, etc.) are not nearly as potent or effective orally as ascorbic acid. Before my work in this area I had a cold every month all winter long. I have now had only one cold in the past 10 years and that was only because I was away from home and without my C. Despite exposure to others with colds, flus, etc., including my children who don't always want to take their C, I have never come down with any of it, and when I feel like I might be, I start dosing C by the thousands of mg each hour and it always works. The health we have seen in the past 10 years has certainly made me understand and appreciate Linus Pauling's expression, Never be without your C, not even for a single day. Truly, I could not survive without it, nor could the animals in my care. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Sally, I am a huge believer in Vit C, not only for animals, but humans as well. This week I have been fighting off a cold since Friday, and popping 1000 mg of Vit C every 1-4 hours, on and off. Had I not been popping the Vit C, I know from past experience I'd already have been to the doc. My friend's family owns an alternative treatment center here in the town where I live, and they do Vit C IV therapy on their patients. I also believe in the value of L-lysine as an anti-viral, although we've had some very interesting conversations here debating that fact. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
Thanks for sharing your interest and experience, Wendy. I appreciate your positive feedback. FYI, several thousand mg of pure ascorbic acid taken hourly for 24 hours at first notice of any cold symptoms will work even faster to eradicate the cold before it gets any kind of foothold. This also applies to animals, as I give mine both oral vitamin C daily and subcutaneous vitamin C injections at the first sign of a sneeze or sniffle, which is now rare. It is virtually impossible to take too much or give them too much. Interestingly, from a bowel standpoint the body can tolerate (and needs) thousands more milligrams of vitamin C when under stress from illness. The minimum daily intake of vitamin C for prevention of illness and heart disease is 3,000 mg, according to Linus Pauling, so it's easy to see why there is so much illness in this country when the RDA for C is only 70 mg. Most animals (except cats and dogs) make nearly 10,000 mg of vitamin C daily in the liver, while humans make none, and cats and dogs make only the human equivalent of 2800 mg daily. I had a severe rotator cuff tear last year that would put me on the ground writing in pain until it dawned on me that I should be taking three times the amount of vitamin C that I was It is important to note that the best kind of vitamin C to take for this purpose is pure ascorbic acid in powder form without excipients, preservatives, or fillers. Tablet vitamin C is really only intended to be taken at the levels written on the bottle because of these additives and it is really not safe to take drugstore vitamin C at the high levels that Pauling recommended as required by the human body on a daily basis for collagen synthesis and protection from viruses and heart disease. Also, the buffered forms of vitamin C (Ester C, sodium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, etc.) are not nearly as potent or effective orally as ascorbic acid. Before my work in this area I had a cold every month all winter long. I have now had only one cold in the past 10 years and that was only because I was away from home and without my C. Despite exposure to others with colds, flus, etc., including my children who don't always want to take their C, I have never come down with any of it, and when I feel like I might be, I start dosing C by the thousands of mg each hour and it always works. The health we have seen in the past 10 years has certainly made me understand and appreciate Linus Pauling's expression, Never be without your C, not even for a single day. Truly, I could not survive without it, nor could the animals in my care. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Sally, I am a huge believer in Vit C, not only for animals, but humans as well. This week I have been fighting off a cold since Friday, and popping 1000 mg of Vit C every 1-4 hours, on and off. Had I not been popping the Vit C, I know from past experience I'd already have been to the doc. My friend's family owns an alternative treatment center here in the town where I live, and they do Vit C IV therapy on their patients. I also believe in the value of L-lysine as an anti-viral, although we've had some very interesting conversations here debating that fact. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments
Thank you for posting this. The science behind using radiofrequency generation therapy on people is sound and dates back to the 1930s. A friend of mine purchased a frequency generator for stage III lung carcinoma a couple of months ago and has seen definite changes, though we're still not sure what changes since he is not due for another PET scan for a couple of months and this therapy can take up to three months to see tumor shrinkage/disappearance. The Zapper would seem to have been designed around this science and I am excited to see that you are having success with your cat with FIV. It takes courage to post information about treatments that are not accepted practice in veterinary medicine and I applaud yours. Ironically, I have a cat, Shorty, with chronic pseudomonas aeruginosa of the sinuses and I had recently begun a search for a veterinarian in my area that uses frequency generation on animals. There is one such animal chiropractor in Colorado who was good enough to return my call and tell me about the excellent results she has seen with this therapy. I live in the heart of horse country in Kentucky and I have been told by several frequency generator retailer that this type of treatment is commonly used by horse trainers on expensive race horses, so my quest to find a vet in my area continues. Perhaps I will start with the Zapper and see if we are successful at finding a frequency that will kill the antibiotic-resistance pseudomonas. Thanks again for this info! Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natasha Hinsbeeck Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments Hi everyone! I dont know if anyone can remember my story, so in short: Ben was diagnosed with FIV a month ago, and the vet sent us home to die - saying there are no effective treatments for cats with FIV who are sick (Ben had toxoplasmosis at the time). We started Ben on Interferon and a whole cluster of supplements, but he continued to go down-hill. His main issue was anemia. Then my vet did some research, and called to tell me about a treatment with a thing called a Zapper that has shown some promising results in people who have HIV. He tried it on 20 puppies who all had parvo, and out of the 20, 19 survived - he has never been able to pull so many puppies through parvo, usually its 19 who die and 1 that makes it. He wanted to start Ben on the Zapper treatments. Now I'm not the kind of person who easily believes in things that have no scientific base or evidence to prove/disprove treatments. I've researched this Zapper for hours, and have not been able to find any, what I would in my opinion, call 'reliable' facts about this. Lots of websites singing its praises, lost of them saying its not worth the plastic its made of, and no scientific studies to date about it. Ben started the treatments two and a half weeks ago, and since then he has gone from strength to strength. He is no longer on any medications apart from his supplements, and he is a glowing picture of health. The vet is as astonished by his recovery as I am. We are going to run a full blood panel on him in January 2010. My vet said in his experience he has NEVER had a vertically infected kitten who got seriously ill, like with toxoplasmosis, live to be older than 6 months. Ben has just passed the 6 month mark. I can only give my story and hope that it might work for anyone else out there as well as it worked for me. At least google it to make up your mind - its called a Zapper, and it was invented by a lady called Hulda Clarke. It involves holding two copper probes under the cats' front legs for 10 min on/10 min off sessions of 3 cycles. The theory - running a fequency higher than an organisms' own frequency through it, will kill the organism, in other words small organisms like germs and virusses will be killed by it. All I can say is that since we've been Zapping Ben, he hasn't had any more health problems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments
Thank you for posting this. The science behind using radiofrequency generation therapy on people is sound and dates back to the 1930s. A friend of mine purchased a frequency generator for stage III lung carcinoma a couple of months ago and has seen definite changes, though we're still not sure what changes since he is not due for another PET scan for a couple of months and this therapy can take up to three months to see tumor shrinkage/disappearance. The Zapper would seem to have been designed around this science and I am excited to see that you are having success with your cat with FIV. It takes courage to post information about treatments that are not accepted practice in veterinary medicine and I applaud yours. Ironically, I have a cat, Shorty, with chronic pseudomonas aeruginosa of the sinuses and I had recently begun a search for a veterinarian in my area that uses frequency generation on animals. There is one such animal chiropractor in Colorado who was good enough to return my call and tell me about the excellent results she has seen with this therapy. I live in the heart of horse country in Kentucky and I have been told by several frequency generator retailer that this type of treatment is commonly used by horse trainers on expensive race horses, so my quest to find a vet in my area continues. Perhaps I will start with the Zapper and see if we are successful at finding a frequency that will kill the antibiotic-resistance pseudomonas. Thanks again for this info! Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natasha Hinsbeeck Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ben's Zapper Treatments Hi everyone! I dont know if anyone can remember my story, so in short: Ben was diagnosed with FIV a month ago, and the vet sent us home to die - saying there are no effective treatments for cats with FIV who are sick (Ben had toxoplasmosis at the time). We started Ben on Interferon and a whole cluster of supplements, but he continued to go down-hill. His main issue was anemia. Then my vet did some research, and called to tell me about a treatment with a thing called a Zapper that has shown some promising results in people who have HIV. He tried it on 20 puppies who all had parvo, and out of the 20, 19 survived - he has never been able to pull so many puppies through parvo, usually its 19 who die and 1 that makes it. He wanted to start Ben on the Zapper treatments. Now I'm not the kind of person who easily believes in things that have no scientific base or evidence to prove/disprove treatments. I've researched this Zapper for hours, and have not been able to find any, what I would in my opinion, call 'reliable' facts about this. Lots of websites singing its praises, lost of them saying its not worth the plastic its made of, and no scientific studies to date about it. Ben started the treatments two and a half weeks ago, and since then he has gone from strength to strength. He is no longer on any medications apart from his supplements, and he is a glowing picture of health. The vet is as astonished by his recovery as I am. We are going to run a full blood panel on him in January 2010. My vet said in his experience he has NEVER had a vertically infected kitten who got seriously ill, like with toxoplasmosis, live to be older than 6 months. Ben has just passed the 6 month mark. I can only give my story and hope that it might work for anyone else out there as well as it worked for me. At least google it to make up your mind - its called a Zapper, and it was invented by a lady called Hulda Clarke. It involves holding two copper probes under the cats' front legs for 10 min on/10 min off sessions of 3 cycles. The theory - running a fequency higher than an organisms' own frequency through it, will kill the organism, in other words small organisms like germs and virusses will be killed by it. All I can say is that since we've been Zapping Ben, he hasn't had any more health problems. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
Hi, Susan, Intravenous ascorbate is vitamin C in the form of sodium ascorbate administrated intravenously (directly into the animal's veins) at high doses in veterinary medicine. It is typically mixed with sodium chloride and administered over the course of a few hours, depending on how much vitamin C the cat will be receiving. I have used it with my FeLV cat Linus for his lymphoma and was able to put him into remission for going on two years now when the diagnosing vet had told me he had about 4-6 weeks to live in early 2008. We administered it over the course of a year (2x a week for three months), six months off, then 2x a week for three more months). We did not reverse his FeLV with the low dose he was getting (1,000 mg per pound of body weight). However, I am going to be trying this therapy more intensively for the next young FeLV that comes into my care, for I truly believe that if I can administer the ascorbate in the early stages of the disease before it has a chance to progress too far the ascorbate will reverse it. For information on why and how intravenous vitamin C kills these viruses, see Dr. Fred Klenner's paper, Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C, reprinted in its entirety at this link: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm The writings of retired veterinarian Dr. Wendell Belfield also cover many conditions that he used vitamin C for as far back as the 1960s. Tragically, few vets paid attention to this paper and the profound evidence of how well this therapy works in vet medicine. Dr. Belfield's paper is here: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm The protocol would be rather intensive for a cat with advanced FeLV but if the cat is early into the disease I believe that administration of up to 2,000 mg per pound of body weight for a number of consecutive days (perhaps 10-11) would kill the virus based on Dr. Klenner's explanation. I have seen it kill FIP in a young kitten when administered for 11 consecutive days at nearly 2,000 mg per pound. If you intend to try this for your cat, you should contact me and let me know so that I can give you more specific directions or give your vet the name of my vet. Again, though, I have not yet tried to reverse FeLV in a cat who has had it for years and am not sure if it is even possible. A lot of it would depend if the virus has progressed to the stage that it is already in the cat's bone marrow. Still, being the kind of person I am, I will probably still try that just to satisfy my own interest and, of course, help others to know whether it works. Having just lost three companion animals I have just been so overwhelmed with veterinary expenses that my funds are too low to consider it right now. But as sure as the sun rises in the east, I will. :) FYI, I spoke with a nurse in Pennsylvania this week and she said that there are definitely vets in Pennsylvania who are doing this treatment on animals. It is completely safe and nontoxic for the animal. Regarding the Mega-C Plus, it is an excellent supplement and completely safe for the cat. It was formulated by Dr. Belfield himself. People are misinformed about vitamin C in general, hence the reason I am getting such a barrage of backlash over posting this information. I believe they are just scared and of course, skeptical based on their misinformation. Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Sally, Please tell me EXACTLY what INTRAVENOUS ASCORBATE is. I have a FELV+ cat who shows no symptoms. Do you recommend this for him? If so, do all vets did this? I live in the Phila Pa area. Also, I have the MEGA C but someone on this list (I think) said it may contain something (that over the long haul) may not be good. What is your opinion on this. Thanks. Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Merlin, Indeed in the interest of self-disclosure, in all of my posts anyone could have seen from my sign-off at any time that I work with Tower Laboratories, a nutriceutical manufacturer whose Pauling therapy vitamin C/lysine protocol has been saving lives from heart disease for the past 14 years. I have made no attempt to hide
Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
Hi, Susan, Intravenous ascorbate is vitamin C in the form of sodium ascorbate administrated intravenously (directly into the animal's veins) at high doses in veterinary medicine. It is typically mixed with sodium chloride and administered over the course of a few hours, depending on how much vitamin C the cat will be receiving. I have used it with my FeLV cat Linus for his lymphoma and was able to put him into remission for going on two years now when the diagnosing vet had told me he had about 4-6 weeks to live in early 2008. We administered it over the course of a year (2x a week for three months), six months off, then 2x a week for three more months). We did not reverse his FeLV with the low dose he was getting (1,000 mg per pound of body weight). However, I am going to be trying this therapy more intensively for the next young FeLV that comes into my care, for I truly believe that if I can administer the ascorbate in the early stages of the disease before it has a chance to progress too far the ascorbate will reverse it. For information on why and how intravenous vitamin C kills these viruses, see Dr. Fred Klenner's paper, Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C, reprinted in its entirety at this link: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm The writings of retired veterinarian Dr. Wendell Belfield also cover many conditions that he used vitamin C for as far back as the 1960s. Tragically, few vets paid attention to this paper and the profound evidence of how well this therapy works in vet medicine. Dr. Belfield's paper is here: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm The protocol would be rather intensive for a cat with advanced FeLV but if the cat is early into the disease I believe that administration of up to 2,000 mg per pound of body weight for a number of consecutive days (perhaps 10-11) would kill the virus based on Dr. Klenner's explanation. I have seen it kill FIP in a young kitten when administered for 11 consecutive days at nearly 2,000 mg per pound. If you intend to try this for your cat, you should contact me and let me know so that I can give you more specific directions or give your vet the name of my vet. Again, though, I have not yet tried to reverse FeLV in a cat who has had it for years and am not sure if it is even possible. A lot of it would depend if the virus has progressed to the stage that it is already in the cat's bone marrow. Still, being the kind of person I am, I will probably still try that just to satisfy my own interest and, of course, help others to know whether it works. Having just lost three companion animals I have just been so overwhelmed with veterinary expenses that my funds are too low to consider it right now. But as sure as the sun rises in the east, I will. :) FYI, I spoke with a nurse in Pennsylvania this week and she said that there are definitely vets in Pennsylvania who are doing this treatment on animals. It is completely safe and nontoxic for the animal. Regarding the Mega-C Plus, it is an excellent supplement and completely safe for the cat. It was formulated by Dr. Belfield himself. People are misinformed about vitamin C in general, hence the reason I am getting such a barrage of backlash over posting this information. I believe they are just scared and of course, skeptical based on their misinformation. Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Sally, Please tell me EXACTLY what INTRAVENOUS ASCORBATE is. I have a FELV+ cat who shows no symptoms. Do you recommend this for him? If so, do all vets did this? I live in the Phila Pa area. Also, I have the MEGA C but someone on this list (I think) said it may contain something (that over the long haul) may not be good. What is your opinion on this. Thanks. Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Merlin, Indeed in the interest of self-disclosure, in all of my posts anyone could have seen from my sign-off at any time that I work with Tower Laboratories, a nutriceutical manufacturer whose Pauling therapy vitamin C/lysine protocol has been saving lives from heart disease for the past 14 years. I have made no attempt to hide
Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
You're more than welcome, Susan. Always happy to help. Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Hi Sally, Thank you for this information. Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Hi, Susan, Intravenous ascorbate is vitamin C in the form of sodium ascorbate administrated intravenously (directly into the animal's veins) at high doses in veterinary medicine. It is typically mixed with sodium chloride and administered over the course of a few hours, depending on how much vitamin C the cat will be receiving. I have used it with my FeLV cat Linus for his lymphoma and was able to put him into remission for going on two years now when the diagnosing vet had told me he had about 4-6 weeks to live in early 2008. We administered it over the course of a year (2x a week for three months), six months off, then 2x a week for three more months). We did not reverse his FeLV with the low dose he was getting (1,000 mg per pound of body weight). However, I am going to be trying this therapy more intensively for the next young FeLV that comes into my care, for I truly believe that if I can administer the ascorbate in the early stages of the disease before it has a chance to progress too far the ascorbate will reverse it. For information on why and how intravenous vitamin C kills these viruses, see Dr. Fred Klenner's paper, Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C, reprinted in its entirety at this link: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm The writings of retired veterinarian Dr. Wendell Belfield also cover many conditions that he used vitamin C for as far back as the 1960s. Tragically, few vets paid attention to this paper and the profound evidence of how well this therapy works in vet medicine. Dr. Belfield's paper is here: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm The protocol would be rather intensive for a cat with advanced FeLV but if the cat is early into the disease I believe that administration of up to 2,000 mg per pound of body weight for a number of consecutive days (perhaps 10-11) would kill the virus based on Dr. Klenner's explanation. I have seen it kill FIP in a young kitten when administered for 11 consecutive days at nearly 2,000 mg per pound. If you intend to try this for your cat, you should contact me and let me know so that I can give you more specific directions or give your vet the name of my vet. Again, though, I have not yet tried to reverse FeLV in a cat who has had it for years and am not sure if it is even possible. A lot of it would depend if the virus has progressed to the stage that it is already in the cat's bone marrow. Still, being the kind of person I am, I will probably still try that just to satisfy my own interest and, of course, help others to know whether it works. Having just lost three companion animals I have just been so overwhelmed with veterinary expenses that my funds are too low to consider it right now. But as sure as the sun rises in the east, I will. :) FYI, I spoke with a nurse in Pennsylvania this week and she said that there are definitely vets in Pennsylvania who are doing this treatment on animals. It is completely safe and nontoxic for the animal. Regarding the Mega-C Plus, it is an excellent supplement and completely safe for the cat. It was formulated by Dr. Belfield himself. People are misinformed about vitamin C in general, hence the reason I am getting such a barrage of backlash over posting this information. I believe they are just scared and of course, skeptical based on their misinformation. Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder
Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
You're more than welcome, Susan. Always happy to help. Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Hi Sally, Thank you for this information. Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell Hi, Susan, Intravenous ascorbate is vitamin C in the form of sodium ascorbate administrated intravenously (directly into the animal's veins) at high doses in veterinary medicine. It is typically mixed with sodium chloride and administered over the course of a few hours, depending on how much vitamin C the cat will be receiving. I have used it with my FeLV cat Linus for his lymphoma and was able to put him into remission for going on two years now when the diagnosing vet had told me he had about 4-6 weeks to live in early 2008. We administered it over the course of a year (2x a week for three months), six months off, then 2x a week for three more months). We did not reverse his FeLV with the low dose he was getting (1,000 mg per pound of body weight). However, I am going to be trying this therapy more intensively for the next young FeLV that comes into my care, for I truly believe that if I can administer the ascorbate in the early stages of the disease before it has a chance to progress too far the ascorbate will reverse it. For information on why and how intravenous vitamin C kills these viruses, see Dr. Fred Klenner's paper, Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C, reprinted in its entirety at this link: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm The writings of retired veterinarian Dr. Wendell Belfield also cover many conditions that he used vitamin C for as far back as the 1960s. Tragically, few vets paid attention to this paper and the profound evidence of how well this therapy works in vet medicine. Dr. Belfield's paper is here: http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm The protocol would be rather intensive for a cat with advanced FeLV but if the cat is early into the disease I believe that administration of up to 2,000 mg per pound of body weight for a number of consecutive days (perhaps 10-11) would kill the virus based on Dr. Klenner's explanation. I have seen it kill FIP in a young kitten when administered for 11 consecutive days at nearly 2,000 mg per pound. If you intend to try this for your cat, you should contact me and let me know so that I can give you more specific directions or give your vet the name of my vet. Again, though, I have not yet tried to reverse FeLV in a cat who has had it for years and am not sure if it is even possible. A lot of it would depend if the virus has progressed to the stage that it is already in the cat's bone marrow. Still, being the kind of person I am, I will probably still try that just to satisfy my own interest and, of course, help others to know whether it works. Having just lost three companion animals I have just been so overwhelmed with veterinary expenses that my funds are too low to consider it right now. But as sure as the sun rises in the east, I will. :) FYI, I spoke with a nurse in Pennsylvania this week and she said that there are definitely vets in Pennsylvania who are doing this treatment on animals. It is completely safe and nontoxic for the animal. Regarding the Mega-C Plus, it is an excellent supplement and completely safe for the cat. It was formulated by Dr. Belfield himself. People are misinformed about vitamin C in general, hence the reason I am getting such a barrage of backlash over posting this information. I believe they are just scared and of course, skeptical based on their misinformation. Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:58 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder
[Felvtalk] Helpful links on ascorbate therapy
I thought some of you might appreciate more information about how vitamin C has been used in medicine over the decades to help you better understand its power and application in veterinary medicine. The following three Web sites contain a wealth of information that I find most enlightening and refer to frequently. www.orthomolecular.org http://www.orthomolecular.org/ www.orthomed.org http://www.orthomed.org/ www.doctoryourself.com http://www.doctoryourself.com/ Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Helpful links on ascorbate therapy
I thought some of you might appreciate more information about how vitamin C has been used in medicine over the decades to help you better understand its power and application in veterinary medicine. The following three Web sites contain a wealth of information that I find most enlightening and refer to frequently. www.orthomolecular.org http://www.orthomolecular.org/ www.orthomed.org http://www.orthomed.org/ www.doctoryourself.com http://www.doctoryourself.com/ Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
Merlin, Indeed in the interest of self-disclosure, in all of my posts anyone could have seen from my sign-off at any time that I work with Tower Laboratories, a nutriceutical manufacturer whose Pauling therapy vitamin C/lysine protocol has been saving lives from heart disease for the past 14 years. I have made no attempt to hide that fact, though perhaps doing so might have made me seem more like one of you and less like I was trying to sell you something. However, despite what I do to support my family and my rescue, I am certainly not paid to spend time posting here about the successes I have seen with intravenous ascorbate in my cat rescue and answering e-mail questions gratis after my 12-hour work days in an effort to help others save animals. My company does not even sell vitamin C for animals and I have never once offered to sell anything to anyone here, so to accuse me of selling snake oil and preying on people's love of their pets borders on libel. There is no ulterior sales motive here - I am simply trying to help. I am also, as you accurately point out, a published contributing author, and if memory serves, this is the first time I have ever been publicly chastised for sharing information in the interest of helping animals. Perhaps it is really true that people do not value the things they get for free. I first posted my experience with vitamin C here because I love animals and people and want to see these cats have a chance of survival and yes, help their owners to have hope where there would otherwise seem none. It would have been self-serving not to, or to disseminate the information for profit, as many might have. After all, there aren't many options for saving these cats and it seemed to me that some might actually appreciate and find my experience useful. I truly did not expect such a firestorm of skepticism and negativity and I am beginning to regret my initial decision to share at all, though thankfully there have been some to embrace and implement what I have shared, and for them and hopefully many others to follow in our footsteps, it was worth it. The fact that I work in this field affords me knowledge that others may not have - others who are still looking for some of the answers that I have been fortunate enough to discover. I have shared in honesty and with a caring heart and now the information is out there for those who would like to try vitamin C in all forms for their animals. I have not made claims that it will work positively to cure FeLV cats in all cases but have very specifically stated that I don't know what the response would be for cats that are well into the disease process with bone marrow involvement, though I sure intend to find out once we recover from the financial burden of the last three sick cats and their treatments. With the alternative being certain death, my question is, What compassionate, thinking pet owner would deny an animal a chance at life because he or she did not believe that something would work? My vet has now done three clinical trials with three successful outcomes. Had I been skeptical and waited for published clinical trials, all three cats would now be dead. I lost a kitten in November to FIP because we did not use the correct IV ascorbate protocol and because he was perhaps too far into the disease process to be brought back. Do I wish that I had never discovered or used the vitamin C protocol because my heart was crushed over the loss of him? Of course not, for because of what I learned with him we were successful in saving his sister. Every day she is a living reminder that his death was not in vain, and I will never stop trying to save the ones I can with this protocol because I know it works and it's really all I have. It seemed logical to me that others would appreciate the opportunity to hear of and try this for the animals they love as well, regardless of where or who it came from. Waiting for conventional medicine to understand or embrace this science is costing animals (and humans) their lives but nothing says that their owners and caregivers cannot. We are not talking about an ordinary vitamin as most have come to consider vitamin C. The majority of the world's population has no clue about how far-reaching and powerful ascorbic acid truly is for destroying viral and bacterial infections and also reversing heart disease, and how very critical this substance is to human and animal life. While it is tremendously helpful with the common cold virus, this is quite honestly the least of the diseases it can cure. However, the low U.S. RDA for vitamin C is killing human beings one by one, and because our domesticated cats and dogs make too little vitamin C and get little to none in their food, it is also killing them. We owe it to them to become educated about this and take action. Clinical trials cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and though NIH funding continues on a broad scale for other less serious
Re: [Felvtalk] Vit C therapy Sally Snyder Jewell
Merlin, Indeed in the interest of self-disclosure, in all of my posts anyone could have seen from my sign-off at any time that I work with Tower Laboratories, a nutriceutical manufacturer whose Pauling therapy vitamin C/lysine protocol has been saving lives from heart disease for the past 14 years. I have made no attempt to hide that fact, though perhaps doing so might have made me seem more like one of you and less like I was trying to sell you something. However, despite what I do to support my family and my rescue, I am certainly not paid to spend time posting here about the successes I have seen with intravenous ascorbate in my cat rescue and answering e-mail questions gratis after my 12-hour work days in an effort to help others save animals. My company does not even sell vitamin C for animals and I have never once offered to sell anything to anyone here, so to accuse me of selling snake oil and preying on people's love of their pets borders on libel. There is no ulterior sales motive here - I am simply trying to help. I am also, as you accurately point out, a published contributing author, and if memory serves, this is the first time I have ever been publicly chastised for sharing information in the interest of helping animals. Perhaps it is really true that people do not value the things they get for free. I first posted my experience with vitamin C here because I love animals and people and want to see these cats have a chance of survival and yes, help their owners to have hope where there would otherwise seem none. It would have been self-serving not to, or to disseminate the information for profit, as many might have. After all, there aren't many options for saving these cats and it seemed to me that some might actually appreciate and find my experience useful. I truly did not expect such a firestorm of skepticism and negativity and I am beginning to regret my initial decision to share at all, though thankfully there have been some to embrace and implement what I have shared, and for them and hopefully many others to follow in our footsteps, it was worth it. The fact that I work in this field affords me knowledge that others may not have - others who are still looking for some of the answers that I have been fortunate enough to discover. I have shared in honesty and with a caring heart and now the information is out there for those who would like to try vitamin C in all forms for their animals. I have not made claims that it will work positively to cure FeLV cats in all cases but have very specifically stated that I don't know what the response would be for cats that are well into the disease process with bone marrow involvement, though I sure intend to find out once we recover from the financial burden of the last three sick cats and their treatments. With the alternative being certain death, my question is, What compassionate, thinking pet owner would deny an animal a chance at life because he or she did not believe that something would work? My vet has now done three clinical trials with three successful outcomes. Had I been skeptical and waited for published clinical trials, all three cats would now be dead. I lost a kitten in November to FIP because we did not use the correct IV ascorbate protocol and because he was perhaps too far into the disease process to be brought back. Do I wish that I had never discovered or used the vitamin C protocol because my heart was crushed over the loss of him? Of course not, for because of what I learned with him we were successful in saving his sister. Every day she is a living reminder that his death was not in vain, and I will never stop trying to save the ones I can with this protocol because I know it works and it's really all I have. It seemed logical to me that others would appreciate the opportunity to hear of and try this for the animals they love as well, regardless of where or who it came from. Waiting for conventional medicine to understand or embrace this science is costing animals (and humans) their lives but nothing says that their owners and caregivers cannot. We are not talking about an ordinary vitamin as most have come to consider vitamin C. The majority of the world's population has no clue about how far-reaching and powerful ascorbic acid truly is for destroying viral and bacterial infections and also reversing heart disease, and how very critical this substance is to human and animal life. While it is tremendously helpful with the common cold virus, this is quite honestly the least of the diseases it can cure. However, the low U.S. RDA for vitamin C is killing human beings one by one, and because our domesticated cats and dogs make too little vitamin C and get little to none in their food, it is also killing them. We owe it to them to become educated about this and take action. Clinical trials cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and though NIH funding continues on a broad scale for other less serious
Re: [Felvtalk] stomatitis
Michelle, No amount of antibiotics will do for your cat's stomatitis what ascorbic acid will do. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htmstomatit for an idea of how much to use for different similar conditions in animals. I would put the cat on oral vitamin C or subcutaneous or intramuscular injections of sodium ascorbate. Better yet would be asking your vet to put the cat on intravenous vitamin C (in a sodium chloride drip) from McGuff - http://www.mcguffpharmaceuticals.com/ascor_l_NC.htm. I can give you the protocol for your vet if you would like to have it. The key is dosage - using enough vitamin C for long enough to clear the infection and inflammation (again, see the general guidelines in the Belfield paper). Vitamin C used in any of these forms is safe, nontoxic and highly therapeutic for a myriad of conditions in animals when given in sufficient doses. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] stomatitis
Michelle, No amount of antibiotics will do for your cat's stomatitis what ascorbic acid will do. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htmstomatit for an idea of how much to use for different similar conditions in animals. I would put the cat on oral vitamin C or subcutaneous or intramuscular injections of sodium ascorbate. Better yet would be asking your vet to put the cat on intravenous vitamin C (in a sodium chloride drip) from McGuff - http://www.mcguffpharmaceuticals.com/ascor_l_NC.htm. I can give you the protocol for your vet if you would like to have it. The key is dosage - using enough vitamin C for long enough to clear the infection and inflammation (again, see the general guidelines in the Belfield paper). Vitamin C used in any of these forms is safe, nontoxic and highly therapeutic for a myriad of conditions in animals when given in sufficient doses. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] stomatitis
Don't be afraid to push the cat to bowel tolerance if giving vitamin C orally. The best type of vitamin C for pushing to bowel tolerance would be a pure sodium ascorbate powder (no other vitamins) mixed into the cat's wet food with liver powder to help flavor it. Increase the amount daily until the cat has loose stool, then back down and try again until the cat consistently has diarrhea at a certain level. Just below that level would be bowel tolerance. For those of you who may be concerned about all the negative propaganda surrounding the use of high levels of vitamin C, don't be. It is completely and totally benign and nontoxic at any level and will not harm your cat. Cats (and dogs) make only 40 mg per kilogram of body weight per day, whereas a mouse makes 275. Based on this it is easy to see why cats and dogs succumb to so much viral disease, infection and cancer and other animals do not. The difference in the amount they make is likely due to the high level of domestication of cats and dogs compared to their wild ancestors and also the poor quality of food that they are reduced to eating. Remember to try to spread the dosing out to a couple of times a day, as animals usually make vitamin C 24/7 in the liver. Again, do not be afraid to give your cat vitamin C to bowel tolerance, for you will see the most benefit and healing at the highest possible dosing. Intravenous is best, followed by subcutaneous or intramuscular injections, followed by oral. The Injections sting a little and the cats are not crazy about them but faster healing will be seen with this administration over the oral dosing. However, however you can get it into the cat, the key is using enough, starting immediately, and being consistent. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] stomatitis
Don't be afraid to push the cat to bowel tolerance if giving vitamin C orally. The best type of vitamin C for pushing to bowel tolerance would be a pure sodium ascorbate powder (no other vitamins) mixed into the cat's wet food with liver powder to help flavor it. Increase the amount daily until the cat has loose stool, then back down and try again until the cat consistently has diarrhea at a certain level. Just below that level would be bowel tolerance. For those of you who may be concerned about all the negative propaganda surrounding the use of high levels of vitamin C, don't be. It is completely and totally benign and nontoxic at any level and will not harm your cat. Cats (and dogs) make only 40 mg per kilogram of body weight per day, whereas a mouse makes 275. Based on this it is easy to see why cats and dogs succumb to so much viral disease, infection and cancer and other animals do not. The difference in the amount they make is likely due to the high level of domestication of cats and dogs compared to their wild ancestors and also the poor quality of food that they are reduced to eating. Remember to try to spread the dosing out to a couple of times a day, as animals usually make vitamin C 24/7 in the liver. Again, do not be afraid to give your cat vitamin C to bowel tolerance, for you will see the most benefit and healing at the highest possible dosing. Intravenous is best, followed by subcutaneous or intramuscular injections, followed by oral. The Injections sting a little and the cats are not crazy about them but faster healing will be seen with this administration over the oral dosing. However, however you can get it into the cat, the key is using enough, starting immediately, and being consistent. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Gary, I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already in his bone marrow. Had I the opportunity to start megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the progression of viruses. Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive, life-threatening virus once well-established. Cats and dogs make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases. I talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this protocol and he confirmed that if the infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or intravenous infusions. Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains iron, which can limit the amount than can be used therapeutically. Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial. When the body is under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the disease/virus. The myths about kidney stones, peeing expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid widely accepted and used for eradicating disease. Vitamin C has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years, and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the 1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and disease. Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus. I am preparing to do just such a trial on the next newly diagnosed FeLV kitten that comes into my care. The key is catching it early and administering enough to permanently destroy the virus. With my two FIP kittens, Chuckie was the first to become symptomatic. We administered IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) at 1 gram per pound of body weight (5,000 mg daily) for five days. We stopped the drips when he appeared better, though he soon took a nose dive and by the time my vet opened again he was too far gone from a neurological standpoint. The virus had not been totally eradicated in those five days at that low dose, and when the C was stopped the virus replicated and killed him. When his sister Angelica began to manifest with the same chronic high fevers, weight loss, lack of appetite, and transient neurologic symptoms, a passage in Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C grabbed my attention, to wit: . . . failure to benefit from Vitamin C use is usually due to inadequate amounts being used for too short a period of time. Newly armed with this information, we doubled Angelica's IV C to 2g per pound of body weight so that she was getting 10g daily. We continued the drips daily and on day 7 her 105 fever came down. We continued for 4 more days to make sure the virus was killed and we didn't have a repeat situation as with poor Chuckie. Her fevers remained down through day 11 and then we tapered her off of the C and gave it orally to avoid rebound scurvy. It has been 3 weeks and she is eating well, gaining weight, and totally asymptomatic. Needless to say, she now gets C in her food every day. The difference between the two treatment scenarios is that Chuckie received too many immune-destroying antibiotics and steroids before his official FIP diagnosis returned and by the time we started the IV C drips he was terribly compromised, though he probably would have survived had I only realized that we were administering too little vitamin C for too short a time. When Angelica became sick I went straight to the IV vitamin C as my first line of defense and apparently that, and the proper dosage amount and administration length, were the keys to curing her. I hope this helps some of you. I posted much of this information before but it seemed to be dismissed a priori with few appearing to consider it legitimate or worthy of greater investigation. This is sad, because while everyone continues to talk of what to do for these poor FeLV, FIV, FIP and other sick cats, with a little effort this treatment is available, safe, effective, and inexpensive compared with the typical outlay for these diseases. Is it not worth trying for these cats before accepting that there is no viable cure? Personally, I would much prefer to attempt this protocol to eradicate a virus than to simply treat a cat's immune system just to give it a few extra months before the virus kills it anyway. It's really a no-brainer. You will do your vet a favor by asking
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Gary, I used the Mega C Plus on a feral FeLV cat for six months but ultimately he did not seroconvert because it was already in his bone marrow. Had I the opportunity to start megadoses of oral vitamin C at the beginning stages of his virus he would likely still be alive, because like taking C for the common cold, timing is key in stopping the progression of viruses. Ascorbic acid is critical for prevention and optimal health in cats and dogs, but it is nearly impossible to get enough of it into a cat orally to eradicate an aggressive, life-threatening virus once well-established. Cats and dogs make very little vitamin C in the liver compared to most animals, hence the reason they succumb to these diseases. I talked with Wendell Belfield, DVM about his use of this protocol and he confirmed that if the infection/disease/virus is too advanced a more aggressive approach is necessary through sub-Q or IM injections or intravenous infusions. Though an excellent formula, his oral Mega-C Plus contains iron, which can limit the amount than can be used therapeutically. Otherwise, there is no toxic limit for pure ascorbic acid and the more you can get into the cat up to bowel tolerance, the more beneficial. When the body is under stress (animal or human) and fighting illness, more vitamin C is tolerated and necessary to eradicate the disease/virus. The myths about kidney stones, peeing expensive urine, etc., are just that - myths, propagated by those who would stand to lose huge money were ascorbic acid widely accepted and used for eradicating disease. Vitamin C has been known to fight 30 major diseases for over 50 years, and as Wendell Belfield DVM knew well and practiced from the 1960s on, it also cures cat and dog viruses, infection and disease. Giving high doses of sodium ascorbate intravenously to an FeLV cat in the early stages of the disease should permanently eradicate the FeLV virus as it did with FIP in my kitten, and in fact, ANY virus. I am preparing to do just such a trial on the next newly diagnosed FeLV kitten that comes into my care. The key is catching it early and administering enough to permanently destroy the virus. With my two FIP kittens, Chuckie was the first to become symptomatic. We administered IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) at 1 gram per pound of body weight (5,000 mg daily) for five days. We stopped the drips when he appeared better, though he soon took a nose dive and by the time my vet opened again he was too far gone from a neurological standpoint. The virus had not been totally eradicated in those five days at that low dose, and when the C was stopped the virus replicated and killed him. When his sister Angelica began to manifest with the same chronic high fevers, weight loss, lack of appetite, and transient neurologic symptoms, a passage in Klenner's Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C grabbed my attention, to wit: . . . failure to benefit from Vitamin C use is usually due to inadequate amounts being used for too short a period of time. Newly armed with this information, we doubled Angelica's IV C to 2g per pound of body weight so that she was getting 10g daily. We continued the drips daily and on day 7 her 105 fever came down. We continued for 4 more days to make sure the virus was killed and we didn't have a repeat situation as with poor Chuckie. Her fevers remained down through day 11 and then we tapered her off of the C and gave it orally to avoid rebound scurvy. It has been 3 weeks and she is eating well, gaining weight, and totally asymptomatic. Needless to say, she now gets C in her food every day. The difference between the two treatment scenarios is that Chuckie received too many immune-destroying antibiotics and steroids before his official FIP diagnosis returned and by the time we started the IV C drips he was terribly compromised, though he probably would have survived had I only realized that we were administering too little vitamin C for too short a time. When Angelica became sick I went straight to the IV vitamin C as my first line of defense and apparently that, and the proper dosage amount and administration length, were the keys to curing her. I hope this helps some of you. I posted much of this information before but it seemed to be dismissed a priori with few appearing to consider it legitimate or worthy of greater investigation. This is sad, because while everyone continues to talk of what to do for these poor FeLV, FIV, FIP and other sick cats, with a little effort this treatment is available, safe, effective, and inexpensive compared with the typical outlay for these diseases. Is it not worth trying for these cats before accepting that there is no viable cure? Personally, I would much prefer to attempt this protocol to eradicate a virus than to simply treat a cat's immune system just to give it a few extra months before the virus kills it anyway. It's really a no-brainer. You will do your vet a favor by asking
[Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP
A few days ago I posted about the reversal of FIP that I saw in my kitten Angelica on high dose intravenous ascorbic acid and have been following these subsequent posts with some bit of sadness. I believe Jenny makes the most valid arguments and in an effort to provide more details about what happened and help you see the timeline, I submit the following histories. Note: This will be in two parts because of length limits. Lukey 1. My FeLV cat Lukey died on October 1 from what we now believe was FIP. He had been healthy and given the best supplements, diet and care possible. When his furnished garage home was flooded in August 2009 we had to relocate the three FeLV cats including Lukey to the back porch while we recovered from the flooding. The stress of the ordeal triggered an illness in Lukey, though at the time it was thought he was just in the end stages of the FeLV disease. I now believe it was FIP for a number of reasons, not the least of which is because his chronic high fevers, inappetence, lethargy and weight loss continued for weeks and weeks, even when he responded to the LTCI injections and blood transfusion and his anemia was improving. At that time it didn't occur to me that some latent FIP might have been triggered by the stress of the flooding and relocation. Despite our efforts, including two separate vitamin C drips (the only time when Lukey appeared to feel better), Lukey died after placement of an esophageal feeding tube and even then it did not occur to me that he could have had FIP. However, his vet later mentioned that during placement of the feeding tube while Lukey was under anesthesia his intestines felt gummy and she realized that we had probably been dealing with FIP all along and missed it. Had I only known, in retrospect (based only on what I learned after the death of Chuckie below), I should have put Lukey on the ascorbate drips according to the protocol provided by Wendell Belfield, DVM, pushed him to the highest possible dosage (2g per pound of body weight), and continued the drips until his fevers came down and then for 4-5 days after that. We just didn't know what we were dealing with. During the time we cared for Lukey we were focused on doing everything possible to save him and his care was very hands on. Though we keep buckets of hand sanitizer in the garage and use it faithfully before coming back into the house among our other cats, it is very possible that we carried FIP into the household on our clothes from the constant contact and syringe feeding of Lukey. Again, keep in mind that we were not focused on the possibility that he had FIP. In the household were three young kittens who were pulled from a Kentucky kill shelter at just six weeks of age before they were scheduled to be PTS. At the time of Lukey's first symptoms in late August 2009 of what we now believe was FIP, the kittens were only 3 1/2 months old. Continued in next post . . Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without http://www.hearttech.com/books_and_videos.html a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP
A few days ago I posted about the reversal of FIP that I saw in my kitten Angelica on high dose intravenous ascorbic acid and have been following these subsequent posts with some bit of sadness. I believe Jenny makes the most valid arguments and in an effort to provide more details about what happened and help you see the timeline, I submit the following histories. Note: This will be in two parts because of length limits. Lukey 1. My FeLV cat Lukey died on October 1 from what we now believe was FIP. He had been healthy and given the best supplements, diet and care possible. When his furnished garage home was flooded in August 2009 we had to relocate the three FeLV cats including Lukey to the back porch while we recovered from the flooding. The stress of the ordeal triggered an illness in Lukey, though at the time it was thought he was just in the end stages of the FeLV disease. I now believe it was FIP for a number of reasons, not the least of which is because his chronic high fevers, inappetence, lethargy and weight loss continued for weeks and weeks, even when he responded to the LTCI injections and blood transfusion and his anemia was improving. At that time it didn't occur to me that some latent FIP might have been triggered by the stress of the flooding and relocation. Despite our efforts, including two separate vitamin C drips (the only time when Lukey appeared to feel better), Lukey died after placement of an esophageal feeding tube and even then it did not occur to me that he could have had FIP. However, his vet later mentioned that during placement of the feeding tube while Lukey was under anesthesia his intestines felt gummy and she realized that we had probably been dealing with FIP all along and missed it. Had I only known, in retrospect (based only on what I learned after the death of Chuckie below), I should have put Lukey on the ascorbate drips according to the protocol provided by Wendell Belfield, DVM, pushed him to the highest possible dosage (2g per pound of body weight), and continued the drips until his fevers came down and then for 4-5 days after that. We just didn't know what we were dealing with. During the time we cared for Lukey we were focused on doing everything possible to save him and his care was very hands on. Though we keep buckets of hand sanitizer in the garage and use it faithfully before coming back into the house among our other cats, it is very possible that we carried FIP into the household on our clothes from the constant contact and syringe feeding of Lukey. Again, keep in mind that we were not focused on the possibility that he had FIP. In the household were three young kittens who were pulled from a Kentucky kill shelter at just six weeks of age before they were scheduled to be PTS. At the time of Lukey's first symptoms in late August 2009 of what we now believe was FIP, the kittens were only 3 1/2 months old. Continued in next post . . Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without http://www.hearttech.com/books_and_videos.html a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP - Part 2
Part 2 Chuckie The kittens Tommy, Chuckie and Angelica, were altered and received their rabies vaccinations on September 20, 2009. (Note, again, Lukey died on October 1). On October 8 the kittens then received FVRCP vaccinations and were still asymptomatic at that time. About 12-15 days later one of the male kittens, Chuckie, became lethargic and feverish and stopped eating just as Lukey had done. Between October 20 and October 31, despite extended vet visits, hospitalizations, and negative test results except for mild anemia (Haemobartonella, toxoplasmosis, coronavirus, ELISA, PCR, normal lymphocytes and globulins, urine cultures, x-rays, ultrasounds) with three different vets including one specialist, the diagnosis remained fever of unknown origin and the only thing done for him was a bucket load of antibiotics and steroids. Still thinking that his illness was perhaps triggered by the vaccination, and distraught that the conventional approach was failing and his condition declining, on October 31 I took him straight from a week-long hospitalization with one vet to the vet I had used for intravenous vitamin C treatments for my FeLV cat with lymphosarcoma (who is still alive two years after his original diagnosis). We put Chuckie on a vitamin C drip that day of 5g daily (1g per pound of body weight as we had used for Linus) for six days, with double drips morning and evening on the last two days, and he appeared much better with his fever down. Unfortunately, the drip was stopped on Thursday because his veins were shot from all of his earlier hospitalizations and blood draws and also because the vet's office would be closed over the weekend. He still seemed better on Saturday and was even out in the yard walking around with me. By the time the vet opened again on Tuesday, November 10, however, Chuckie's condition was critical, with severe neurological involvement including ataxia and head tremors. He was hospitalized that day and the drip restarted, along with his sister Angelica who was now manifesting with identical symptoms (the third of my cats to exhibit this illness). More blood was drawn from Chuckie and sent for analysis. Where he had previously been negative across the board on all test results numerous times except for chronic mild anemia, the new results returned with rising coronavirus titers and a PCR test positive for dry FIP. He also had eye involvement on ophthalmoscopic exam including granulomas. Chuckie was so very sick on the day that these positive test results returned and clearly dying that there was no alternative but to euthanize him. At this point the vet bills for Lukey, Chuckie and Angelica have totaled nearly $4000 and had it not been for some FEMA money that we received from the flooding, we would have been in tremendous debt. Meanwhile, Angelica is still hospitalized and following right behind Chuckie with identical symptoms even including some transient neurologic involvement. Continued in next post . . . Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without http://www.hearttech.com/books_and_videos.html a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP - Part 2
Part 2 Chuckie The kittens Tommy, Chuckie and Angelica, were altered and received their rabies vaccinations on September 20, 2009. (Note, again, Lukey died on October 1). On October 8 the kittens then received FVRCP vaccinations and were still asymptomatic at that time. About 12-15 days later one of the male kittens, Chuckie, became lethargic and feverish and stopped eating just as Lukey had done. Between October 20 and October 31, despite extended vet visits, hospitalizations, and negative test results except for mild anemia (Haemobartonella, toxoplasmosis, coronavirus, ELISA, PCR, normal lymphocytes and globulins, urine cultures, x-rays, ultrasounds) with three different vets including one specialist, the diagnosis remained fever of unknown origin and the only thing done for him was a bucket load of antibiotics and steroids. Still thinking that his illness was perhaps triggered by the vaccination, and distraught that the conventional approach was failing and his condition declining, on October 31 I took him straight from a week-long hospitalization with one vet to the vet I had used for intravenous vitamin C treatments for my FeLV cat with lymphosarcoma (who is still alive two years after his original diagnosis). We put Chuckie on a vitamin C drip that day of 5g daily (1g per pound of body weight as we had used for Linus) for six days, with double drips morning and evening on the last two days, and he appeared much better with his fever down. Unfortunately, the drip was stopped on Thursday because his veins were shot from all of his earlier hospitalizations and blood draws and also because the vet's office would be closed over the weekend. He still seemed better on Saturday and was even out in the yard walking around with me. By the time the vet opened again on Tuesday, November 10, however, Chuckie's condition was critical, with severe neurological involvement including ataxia and head tremors. He was hospitalized that day and the drip restarted, along with his sister Angelica who was now manifesting with identical symptoms (the third of my cats to exhibit this illness). More blood was drawn from Chuckie and sent for analysis. Where he had previously been negative across the board on all test results numerous times except for chronic mild anemia, the new results returned with rising coronavirus titers and a PCR test positive for dry FIP. He also had eye involvement on ophthalmoscopic exam including granulomas. Chuckie was so very sick on the day that these positive test results returned and clearly dying that there was no alternative but to euthanize him. At this point the vet bills for Lukey, Chuckie and Angelica have totaled nearly $4000 and had it not been for some FEMA money that we received from the flooding, we would have been in tremendous debt. Meanwhile, Angelica is still hospitalized and following right behind Chuckie with identical symptoms even including some transient neurologic involvement. Continued in next post . . . Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without http://www.hearttech.com/books_and_videos.html a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP - Part 3
Part 3 Angelica By now, after the deaths of my two precious boys Lukey, and then baby Chuckie, it was becoming clear that we were definitely seeing FIP in all three and on the right track with the intravenous ascorbate but just not using enough. Because Chuckie's immune system had been so terribly weakened by his earlier conventional treatment with numerous different antibiotics and steroids, we were up against a wall going into his IV ascorbate treatment, and even then, I was not totally sure that these cats could handle even greater amounts of ascorbate for their illnesses. Then I went digging for more information from Dr. Belfield's papers on how he had treated various diseases and I continued to see a recurring theme - the more grave the illness and virulent the virus, the more vitamin C it takes to destroy the virus. I finally began to see the big picture. We were not using enough vitamin C. Lukey had responded to a couple of drips but they were not continued because we thought the anemia was killing him. Chuckie had responded to at least five days' worth of drips but they were stopped when his fever first went down and we thought he was out of the woods, though clearly he was not. Now we have Angelica heading down the same path to the same sad fate, and finally, I knew what to do. Angelica was put on a drip alongside Chuckie when they were both hospitalized on November 10. Chuckie died on November 11 and Angelica was kept on the drip. Because she had not been dosed with the antibiotics and steroids that Chuckie had received, her immune system was in better shape and we had a better shot at saving her. Remembering how we had failed with Chuckie, in retrospect because of his weak immune system, because his drips were too low, and because the drips were stopped prematurely, Angelica's drips were titrated up rapidly to 2g (2,000 mg) per pound of body weight based on Belfield's protocol for severe disease, and though I wasn't sure how she would handle this load, she did fine and was kept at this level for 11 days. Her fever would drop by the end of each drip and I would take her home, though each morning when I would return for her next daily drip, her fever would be right back up to 104-105. This went on for the first 6 days of treatment and by the 7th day her fever was holding down when we would return for the next drip. Remembering the words of Dr. Belfield that the animal should be kept on the drip until the fevers REMAINED down for at least four days, we continued on with the drips. By the day of her last drip, day 11, her fever had been down for nearly five days and we felt comfortable stopping the drips, though large doses of vitamin C were added to her food to prevent her from suffering a rebound scurvy effect from stopping the high dose vitamin C abruptly. To date, Angelica continues to be asymptomatic and has made her way back to baseline and beyond. She plays with the third of her litter mates, Tommy, who was fortunate enough to avoid the FIP. She eats like a pig and is getting both raw and canned food laced with vitamins and ongoing vitamin C. Though each morning I remember the scenario with poor Chuckie as I reluctantly proceed to feel Angelica's little ears and body for any sign of a fever, by God's grace and the miracle of ascorbic acid she remains cool and with each day that passes I believe we have beat this virus. Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without http://www.hearttech.com/books_and_videos.html a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP - Part 3
Part 3 Angelica By now, after the deaths of my two precious boys Lukey, and then baby Chuckie, it was becoming clear that we were definitely seeing FIP in all three and on the right track with the intravenous ascorbate but just not using enough. Because Chuckie's immune system had been so terribly weakened by his earlier conventional treatment with numerous different antibiotics and steroids, we were up against a wall going into his IV ascorbate treatment, and even then, I was not totally sure that these cats could handle even greater amounts of ascorbate for their illnesses. Then I went digging for more information from Dr. Belfield's papers on how he had treated various diseases and I continued to see a recurring theme - the more grave the illness and virulent the virus, the more vitamin C it takes to destroy the virus. I finally began to see the big picture. We were not using enough vitamin C. Lukey had responded to a couple of drips but they were not continued because we thought the anemia was killing him. Chuckie had responded to at least five days' worth of drips but they were stopped when his fever first went down and we thought he was out of the woods, though clearly he was not. Now we have Angelica heading down the same path to the same sad fate, and finally, I knew what to do. Angelica was put on a drip alongside Chuckie when they were both hospitalized on November 10. Chuckie died on November 11 and Angelica was kept on the drip. Because she had not been dosed with the antibiotics and steroids that Chuckie had received, her immune system was in better shape and we had a better shot at saving her. Remembering how we had failed with Chuckie, in retrospect because of his weak immune system, because his drips were too low, and because the drips were stopped prematurely, Angelica's drips were titrated up rapidly to 2g (2,000 mg) per pound of body weight based on Belfield's protocol for severe disease, and though I wasn't sure how she would handle this load, she did fine and was kept at this level for 11 days. Her fever would drop by the end of each drip and I would take her home, though each morning when I would return for her next daily drip, her fever would be right back up to 104-105. This went on for the first 6 days of treatment and by the 7th day her fever was holding down when we would return for the next drip. Remembering the words of Dr. Belfield that the animal should be kept on the drip until the fevers REMAINED down for at least four days, we continued on with the drips. By the day of her last drip, day 11, her fever had been down for nearly five days and we felt comfortable stopping the drips, though large doses of vitamin C were added to her food to prevent her from suffering a rebound scurvy effect from stopping the high dose vitamin C abruptly. To date, Angelica continues to be asymptomatic and has made her way back to baseline and beyond. She plays with the third of her litter mates, Tommy, who was fortunate enough to avoid the FIP. She eats like a pig and is getting both raw and canned food laced with vitamins and ongoing vitamin C. Though each morning I remember the scenario with poor Chuckie as I reluctantly proceed to feel Angelica's little ears and body for any sign of a fever, by God's grace and the miracle of ascorbic acid she remains cool and with each day that passes I believe we have beat this virus. Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without http://www.hearttech.com/books_and_videos.html a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP - Final
I posted a couple of links earlier that I found helpful throughout the course of this nightmare and I post them again below for those of you who may wish to undertake the intravenous ascorbate protocol for your cats with FIP, FeLV, URI, and other cat diseases. If I had it to do over again, each of my three cats would have been placed immediately on the ascorbate and kept there until their fevers eradicated, for only then is the virus also eradicated and left powerless to replicate or resurface. I have also used intravenous ascorbate with one of my cats with life-threatening upper respiratory infection (and chronic pseudomonas aeruginosa) in conjunction with antibiotics. She received a single vitamin C drip on Friday, then antibiotics in her IV on Saturday and by Sunday night her symptoms were all but gone (except of course for the P.A.). And as I posted previously, my FeLV cat Linus has carried a diagnosis of lymphosarcoma for nearly two years and because of ongoing intermittent IV sodium ascorbate drips which create hydrogen peroxide in the extracellular tissue and destroy cancer cells, he is still seemingly healthy and happy. As you can clearly see, the power of vitamin C extends well beyond what one would expect from a vitamin and according to Dr. Belfield, it has the power to heal and reverse a broad range of viruses and conditions in veterinary medicine. It is tragic that Belfield saw these same remarkable results back in the 1960s in his own vet practice yet still today, some 40+ years later, with rare exception conventional vets are not even aware of the power of this miracle acid in veterinary medicine. But at least those of you reading this are and I hope it is of benefit to you. If you have questions or I can help any of you in any way, please don't hesitate to contact me, either on this board or via e-mail at ssjew...@bellsouth.net. God bless each of you for your big hearts and compassion for animals and hopefully this information will help you in your own rescue work. Clinical http://www.google.com/search?source=ighl=enrlz==q=clini cal+guide+to+the+use+of+vitamin+caq=foq=aqi=g1 Guide to the Use of Vitamin C Megascorbic http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_in t_assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm Prophylaxis and Megascorbic Therapy: A New Orthomolecular Modality in Veterinary Medicine An http://www.belfield.com/pdfs/Feline_Leukemia.pdf Orthomolecular Approach to Feline Leukemia Prevention and Control www.Belfield.com http://www.belfield.com/ . The http://www.amazon.com/Very-Healthy-Cat-Book-Vitamin/dp/0070 04354X Very Healthy Cat Book, by Wendell Belfield, DVM Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My experience with IV ascorbic acid and FIP - Final
I posted a couple of links earlier that I found helpful throughout the course of this nightmare and I post them again below for those of you who may wish to undertake the intravenous ascorbate protocol for your cats with FIP, FeLV, URI, and other cat diseases. If I had it to do over again, each of my three cats would have been placed immediately on the ascorbate and kept there until their fevers eradicated, for only then is the virus also eradicated and left powerless to replicate or resurface. I have also used intravenous ascorbate with one of my cats with life-threatening upper respiratory infection (and chronic pseudomonas aeruginosa) in conjunction with antibiotics. She received a single vitamin C drip on Friday, then antibiotics in her IV on Saturday and by Sunday night her symptoms were all but gone (except of course for the P.A.). And as I posted previously, my FeLV cat Linus has carried a diagnosis of lymphosarcoma for nearly two years and because of ongoing intermittent IV sodium ascorbate drips which create hydrogen peroxide in the extracellular tissue and destroy cancer cells, he is still seemingly healthy and happy. As you can clearly see, the power of vitamin C extends well beyond what one would expect from a vitamin and according to Dr. Belfield, it has the power to heal and reverse a broad range of viruses and conditions in veterinary medicine. It is tragic that Belfield saw these same remarkable results back in the 1960s in his own vet practice yet still today, some 40+ years later, with rare exception conventional vets are not even aware of the power of this miracle acid in veterinary medicine. But at least those of you reading this are and I hope it is of benefit to you. If you have questions or I can help any of you in any way, please don't hesitate to contact me, either on this board or via e-mail at ssjew...@bellsouth.net. God bless each of you for your big hearts and compassion for animals and hopefully this information will help you in your own rescue work. Clinical http://www.google.com/search?source=ighl=enrlz==q=clini cal+guide+to+the+use+of+vitamin+caq=foq=aqi=g1 Guide to the Use of Vitamin C Megascorbic http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_in t_assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm Prophylaxis and Megascorbic Therapy: A New Orthomolecular Modality in Veterinary Medicine An http://www.belfield.com/pdfs/Feline_Leukemia.pdf Orthomolecular Approach to Feline Leukemia Prevention and Control www.Belfield.com http://www.belfield.com/ . The http://www.amazon.com/Very-Healthy-Cat-Book-Vitamin/dp/0070 04354X Very Healthy Cat Book, by Wendell Belfield, DVM Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Angelica's miracle comeback from FIP and how it occurred
For those of you who saw my earlier post about my kitten Angelica and have wondered how vitamin C could have possibly saved her from FIP, I thought that perhaps the information below would help to explain it and convince others to try this highly effective and completely benign treatment for infections and viruses in their own cats. According to the pioneer in vitamin C research Dr. Fred Klenner, vitamin C intravenously works as an oxidizing agent in massive amounts, i.e., 5-150 grams, for certain pathological conditions), and neutralizes toxins, viruses and histamine. The more serious the condition, the more C is required. The ascorbic acid enters all cells and proceeds to take up the protein coats being manufactured by the virus nucleic acid, thus preventing the assembly of new virus units. Cells expand, rupture and die, but there are no virus particles available to enter and infect new cells. If a virus has invaded a cell, the Vitamin C contributes to its breakdown to adenosine deaminase, which converts adenosine to inosine. Purines are formed which are catabolized (broken down) and cannot be used to make more virus nucleic acid. Viral nucleic acid has a protein coat which protects this parasite as it rides the blood or lymph highway to gain specific cell entry. It is possible that if the ascorbic acid can remove that protective protein coat in the blood stream or in the cells, the white cell phagocytes and immune globulin could then neutralize these vulnerable virus particles. Ascorbic acid also joins with the available virus protein, making a new macromolecule which acts as the repressor factor (interferon?) and multiplication of new virus bodies is inhibited. Anyway, Angelica is home tonight - no fever, eating like a pig, and playing with her remaining brother Tommy. Today was her last drip and tonight you would never know she had been sick. FINALLY with the help of my progressive and most helpful vet were able to save one of our cats thanks to the miracle of vitamin C! If only I had gotten Chuckie on the drip sooner he would likely still be alive. It breaks my heart to see my remaining two kittens playing together now without Chuckie, though I will always smile and think of him when I look at our miracle girl Angelica, for he paid the ultimate price to save his sister. Because of Chuckie I knew just what to do and what NOT to do to save Angelica, so he did not die in vain. Anyway, I thought this might help clarify why and how the intravenous vitamin C works on these viruses and pathogens. Few cats ever survive FIP but thanks to Wendell Belfield, DVM, Linus Pauling and the great vitamin C pioneers before them, mine did, and I will be forever grateful. :-) If you need more information or have questions about Angelica's treatment, feel free to ask. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Angelica's miracle comeback from FIP and how it occurred
For those of you who saw my earlier post about my kitten Angelica and have wondered how vitamin C could have possibly saved her from FIP, I thought that perhaps the information below would help to explain it and convince others to try this highly effective and completely benign treatment for infections and viruses in their own cats. According to the pioneer in vitamin C research Dr. Fred Klenner, vitamin C intravenously works as an oxidizing agent in massive amounts, i.e., 5-150 grams, for certain pathological conditions), and neutralizes toxins, viruses and histamine. The more serious the condition, the more C is required. The ascorbic acid enters all cells and proceeds to take up the protein coats being manufactured by the virus nucleic acid, thus preventing the assembly of new virus units. Cells expand, rupture and die, but there are no virus particles available to enter and infect new cells. If a virus has invaded a cell, the Vitamin C contributes to its breakdown to adenosine deaminase, which converts adenosine to inosine. Purines are formed which are catabolized (broken down) and cannot be used to make more virus nucleic acid. Viral nucleic acid has a protein coat which protects this parasite as it rides the blood or lymph highway to gain specific cell entry. It is possible that if the ascorbic acid can remove that protective protein coat in the blood stream or in the cells, the white cell phagocytes and immune globulin could then neutralize these vulnerable virus particles. Ascorbic acid also joins with the available virus protein, making a new macromolecule which acts as the repressor factor (interferon?) and multiplication of new virus bodies is inhibited. Anyway, Angelica is home tonight - no fever, eating like a pig, and playing with her remaining brother Tommy. Today was her last drip and tonight you would never know she had been sick. FINALLY with the help of my progressive and most helpful vet were able to save one of our cats thanks to the miracle of vitamin C! If only I had gotten Chuckie on the drip sooner he would likely still be alive. It breaks my heart to see my remaining two kittens playing together now without Chuckie, though I will always smile and think of him when I look at our miracle girl Angelica, for he paid the ultimate price to save his sister. Because of Chuckie I knew just what to do and what NOT to do to save Angelica, so he did not die in vain. Anyway, I thought this might help clarify why and how the intravenous vitamin C works on these viruses and pathogens. Few cats ever survive FIP but thanks to Wendell Belfield, DVM, Linus Pauling and the great vitamin C pioneers before them, mine did, and I will be forever grateful. :-) If you need more information or have questions about Angelica's treatment, feel free to ask. Sally Snyder Jewell Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten
Hi, All, Just dropping in to post about the success I have had in reversing FIP in one of my kittens. As most of you know, I lost my FeLV+ boy Lukey in October and we were never sure what actually caused his death, as though we were able to improve his red blood count with a transfusion and his lymphocytes were increasing with Imulan's LTCI, his fevers, weight loss and anorexia persisted. He died just after we had placed an esophageal feeding tube. I pulled three six-week-old kittens from a kill shelter last June and they have been healthy, happy and thriving. Then, following their FVRCP vaccinations on October 8, 10 days later one of them, Chuckie, began with chronic high fevers, lethargy and inappetence. When he didn't rebound in a few days, I, like so many others, took him for conventional veterinary treatment which consisted of the routine antibiotics and steroids. When he did not respond to their treatment they simply returned a diagnosis of Fever of Unknown Origin, and sent me on my way, at which time I proceeded to a second, and yet a third specialty vet. They all returned the same diagnosis and basically dismissed Chuckie and me with no hope. I had no idea of what to do next but since I had seen such good results with intravenous vitamin C in my lymphosarcoma cat Linus (who is still alive nearly two years after his original diagnosis thanks to the treatments), I took Chuckie to my vet who performs the ascorbate treatments for me and Chuckie was started on IV ascorbic acid immediately. He received five days of the treatment but not consecutively and apparently at less then adequate dosages because though he seemed much improved by the fifth drip, we mistakenly stopped the drips thinking he would remain better and two days later he manifested with severe neurological symptoms and two days after that he was dead. At around the same time Chuckie was dying his sister Angelica then became sick with the identical symptoms and stopped eating and had some transient neurological involvement. This time, with the pain from Chuckie's death and failed conventional treatment still very fresh, I realized that if Angelica was going to be saved we would have to bypass conventional vet medicine and get her started on the intravenous ascorbate immediately. Her drips were begun on Tuesday, November 10 and according to the protocol of Wendell Belfield, DVM she was titrated up quickly to 2 grams per pound of body weight (she weighed 5 pounds and so she was receiving close to 10 grams of vitamin C intravenously by the third or fourth day). Vitamin C is a powerful virucidal and immune stimulant and because I work in this field, I am well familiar with the properties of this near miracle supplement. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm for information as to why and how vitamin C kills viruses. As of November 19, 2009 Angelica has received nine intravenous ascorbic acid drips and again, we were able to successfully achieve the 2g per pound (10,000 mg at each drip) with no side effects whatsoever. After her 6th drip her fevers began to remain down overnight (as Belfield predicted would happen), and now after 9 drips she is eating, putting on weight, and her fevers are consistently gone. Though I'm always afraid to utter it aloud, especially after losing two other babies to what I now believe was FIP in both cases, Angelica appears to have beaten this despicable disease thanks to the power of intravenous ascorbate and the work of vitamin C pioneers like Linus Pauling and Dr. Wendell Belfield in vet medicine. For those of you who are interested, you can read more about Dr. Belfield's protocol and work in this field at http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm. He also discusses successes and seroconversions in FeLV+ cats with the use of intravenous, injected and oral vitamin C, though the most success is seen with FeLV in cats who are newly diagnosed and the virus has not yet reached the bone. If I had a newly diagnosed FeLV cat that I was trying to save, I would certainly not hesitate to put it on intravenous and injectable ascorbate at high levels, since it is nontoxic and completely safe for the cat. The vials of sodium ascorbate are charged at around $25.00 per vial by my vet and there is enough product in a vial to get three or four high level drips out of it. The only other cost is placement of the catheter for the drip which can remain in place for up to four days. I have even hung the drips at home when the vet was good enough to loan me her infusion pump and it is not difficult to do. I am now buying my own infusion pump for future use because I would not be without this powerful weapon on behalf of my cats that I cherish. Anyway, If any of you has any questions about the protocol I used with Angelica for her FIP, feel free to write. You can also view
[Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten
Hi, All, Just dropping in to post about the success I have had in reversing FIP in one of my kittens. As most of you know, I lost my FeLV+ boy Lukey in October and we were never sure what actually caused his death, as though we were able to improve his red blood count with a transfusion and his lymphocytes were increasing with Imulan's LTCI, his fevers, weight loss and anorexia persisted. He died just after we had placed an esophageal feeding tube. I pulled three six-week-old kittens from a kill shelter last June and they have been healthy, happy and thriving. Then, following their FVRCP vaccinations on October 8, 10 days later one of them, Chuckie, began with chronic high fevers, lethargy and inappetence. When he didn't rebound in a few days, I, like so many others, took him for conventional veterinary treatment which consisted of the routine antibiotics and steroids. When he did not respond to their treatment they simply returned a diagnosis of Fever of Unknown Origin, and sent me on my way, at which time I proceeded to a second, and yet a third specialty vet. They all returned the same diagnosis and basically dismissed Chuckie and me with no hope. I had no idea of what to do next but since I had seen such good results with intravenous vitamin C in my lymphosarcoma cat Linus (who is still alive nearly two years after his original diagnosis thanks to the treatments), I took Chuckie to my vet who performs the ascorbate treatments for me and Chuckie was started on IV ascorbic acid immediately. He received five days of the treatment but not consecutively and apparently at less then adequate dosages because though he seemed much improved by the fifth drip, we mistakenly stopped the drips thinking he would remain better and two days later he manifested with severe neurological symptoms and two days after that he was dead. At around the same time Chuckie was dying his sister Angelica then became sick with the identical symptoms and stopped eating and had some transient neurological involvement. This time, with the pain from Chuckie's death and failed conventional treatment still very fresh, I realized that if Angelica was going to be saved we would have to bypass conventional vet medicine and get her started on the intravenous ascorbate immediately. Her drips were begun on Tuesday, November 10 and according to the protocol of Wendell Belfield, DVM she was titrated up quickly to 2 grams per pound of body weight (she weighed 5 pounds and so she was receiving close to 10 grams of vitamin C intravenously by the third or fourth day). Vitamin C is a powerful virucidal and immune stimulant and because I work in this field, I am well familiar with the properties of this near miracle supplement. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm for information as to why and how vitamin C kills viruses. As of November 19, 2009 Angelica has received nine intravenous ascorbic acid drips and again, we were able to successfully achieve the 2g per pound (10,000 mg at each drip) with no side effects whatsoever. After her 6th drip her fevers began to remain down overnight (as Belfield predicted would happen), and now after 9 drips she is eating, putting on weight, and her fevers are consistently gone. Though I'm always afraid to utter it aloud, especially after losing two other babies to what I now believe was FIP in both cases, Angelica appears to have beaten this despicable disease thanks to the power of intravenous ascorbate and the work of vitamin C pioneers like Linus Pauling and Dr. Wendell Belfield in vet medicine. For those of you who are interested, you can read more about Dr. Belfield's protocol and work in this field at http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm. He also discusses successes and seroconversions in FeLV+ cats with the use of intravenous, injected and oral vitamin C, though the most success is seen with FeLV in cats who are newly diagnosed and the virus has not yet reached the bone. If I had a newly diagnosed FeLV cat that I was trying to save, I would certainly not hesitate to put it on intravenous and injectable ascorbate at high levels, since it is nontoxic and completely safe for the cat. The vials of sodium ascorbate are charged at around $25.00 per vial by my vet and there is enough product in a vial to get three or four high level drips out of it. The only other cost is placement of the catheter for the drip which can remain in place for up to four days. I have even hung the drips at home when the vet was good enough to loan me her infusion pump and it is not difficult to do. I am now buying my own infusion pump for future use because I would not be without this powerful weapon on behalf of my cats that I cherish. Anyway, If any of you has any questions about the protocol I used with Angelica for her FIP, feel free to write. You can also view
Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten
I just posted the history about this and the testing that was performed a few minutes ago. If you need more information, let me know. Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten I want a solution to FIP. FIP has killed cats in my care and ravaged my spirit. I do not foster tiny kittens because I cannot deal with FIP. So I want this to be real, a real solution to FIP. But I have to say The only way to make a definitive diagnoe of FIP is by necropsy. Was a necropsy performed? How do you KNOW it was FIP? --- On Thu, 11/19/09, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:42 PM I'm Very glad that Angelica has gotten better. However, at least with what you wrote, I don't see a diagnosis of FIP. Was this a diagnosis made by a vet? Were there some tests run with results that were indicative of FIP, or was this just from observation of clinical signs? Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten Hi, All, Just dropping in to post about the success I have had in reversing FIP in one of my kittens. I pulled three six-week-old kittens from a kill shelter last June and they have been healthy, happy and thriving. Then, following their FVRCP vaccinations on October 8, 10 days later one of them, Chuckie, began with chronic high fevers, lethargy and inappetence. When he didn't rebound in a few days, I, like so many others, took him for conventional veterinary treatment which consisted of the routine antibiotics and steroids. When he did not respond to their treatment they simply returned a diagnosis of Fever of Unknown Origin, and sent me on my way, at which time I proceeded to a second, and yet a third specialty vet. They all returned the same diagnosis and basically dismissed Chuckie and me with no hope. I had no idea of what to do next but since I had seen such good results with intravenous vitamin C in my lymphosarcoma cat Linus (who is still alive nearly two years after his original diagnosis thanks to the treatments), I took Chuckie to my vet who performs the ascorbate treatments for me and Chuckie was started on IV ascorbic acid immediately. He received five days of the treatment but not consecutively and apparently at less then adequate dosages because though he seemed much improved by the fifth drip, we mistakenly stopped the drips thinking he would remain better and two days later he manifested with severe neurological symptoms and two days after that he was dead. At around the same time Chuckie was dying his sister Angelica then became sick with the identical symptoms and stopped eating and had some transient neurological involvement. This time, with the pain from Chuckie's death and failed conventional treatment still very fresh, I realized that if Angelica was going to be saved we would have to bypass conventional vet medicine and get her started on the intravenous ascorbate immediately. Her drips were begun on Tuesday, November 10 and according to the protocol of Wendell Belfield, DVM she was titrated up quickly to 2 grams per pound of body weight (she weighed 5 pounds and so she was receiving close to 10 grams of vitamin C intravenously by the third or fourth day). Vitamin C is a powerful virucidal and immune stimulant and because I work in this field, I am well familiar with the properties of this near miracle supplement. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm for information as to why and how vitamin C kills viruses. As of November 19, 2009 Angelica has received nine intravenous ascorbic acid drips and again, we were able to successfully achieve the 2g per pound (10,000 mg at each drip) with no side effects whatsoever. After her 6th drip her fevers began to remain down overnight (as Belfield predicted would happen), and now after 9 drips she is eating, putting on weight, and her fevers are consistently gone. Though I'm always
Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten
I just posted the history about this and the testing that was performed a few minutes ago. If you need more information, let me know. Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation www.HeartTech.com 1-877-TOWER-LABS Practicing Medicine Without a License? The Story of the Linus Pauling Therapy for Heart Disease, by Owen Fonorow and Sally Snyder Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten I want a solution to FIP. FIP has killed cats in my care and ravaged my spirit. I do not foster tiny kittens because I cannot deal with FIP. So I want this to be real, a real solution to FIP. But I have to say The only way to make a definitive diagnoe of FIP is by necropsy. Was a necropsy performed? How do you KNOW it was FIP? --- On Thu, 11/19/09, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:42 PM I'm Very glad that Angelica has gotten better. However, at least with what you wrote, I don't see a diagnosis of FIP. Was this a diagnosis made by a vet? Were there some tests run with results that were indicative of FIP, or was this just from observation of clinical signs? Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten Hi, All, Just dropping in to post about the success I have had in reversing FIP in one of my kittens. I pulled three six-week-old kittens from a kill shelter last June and they have been healthy, happy and thriving. Then, following their FVRCP vaccinations on October 8, 10 days later one of them, Chuckie, began with chronic high fevers, lethargy and inappetence. When he didn't rebound in a few days, I, like so many others, took him for conventional veterinary treatment which consisted of the routine antibiotics and steroids. When he did not respond to their treatment they simply returned a diagnosis of Fever of Unknown Origin, and sent me on my way, at which time I proceeded to a second, and yet a third specialty vet. They all returned the same diagnosis and basically dismissed Chuckie and me with no hope. I had no idea of what to do next but since I had seen such good results with intravenous vitamin C in my lymphosarcoma cat Linus (who is still alive nearly two years after his original diagnosis thanks to the treatments), I took Chuckie to my vet who performs the ascorbate treatments for me and Chuckie was started on IV ascorbic acid immediately. He received five days of the treatment but not consecutively and apparently at less then adequate dosages because though he seemed much improved by the fifth drip, we mistakenly stopped the drips thinking he would remain better and two days later he manifested with severe neurological symptoms and two days after that he was dead. At around the same time Chuckie was dying his sister Angelica then became sick with the identical symptoms and stopped eating and had some transient neurological involvement. This time, with the pain from Chuckie's death and failed conventional treatment still very fresh, I realized that if Angelica was going to be saved we would have to bypass conventional vet medicine and get her started on the intravenous ascorbate immediately. Her drips were begun on Tuesday, November 10 and according to the protocol of Wendell Belfield, DVM she was titrated up quickly to 2 grams per pound of body weight (she weighed 5 pounds and so she was receiving close to 10 grams of vitamin C intravenously by the third or fourth day). Vitamin C is a powerful virucidal and immune stimulant and because I work in this field, I am well familiar with the properties of this near miracle supplement. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinica l_guide_1988.htm for information as to why and how vitamin C kills viruses. As of November 19, 2009 Angelica has received nine intravenous ascorbic acid drips and again, we were able to successfully achieve the 2g per pound (10,000 mg at each drip) with no side effects whatsoever. After her 6th drip her fevers began to remain down overnight (as Belfield predicted would happen), and now after 9 drips she is eating, putting on weight, and her fevers are consistently gone. Though I'm always
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Thought this might be helpful to some of you. http://www.belfield.com/pdfs/Feline_Leukemia.pdf Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thought this might be helpful to some of you. http://www.belfield.com/pdfs/Feline_Leukemia.pdf Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sara, With regard to your recent post, I wanted to offer info available on the site of Wendell Belfield, DVM and in his book, The Very Healthy Cat http://www.belfield.com/books.php# Book. Dr. Belfield reports that he has reversed FeLV in young cats where the disease has not yet progressed to the bone marrow with high dose ascorbate (vitamin C). See http://www.belfield.com/pet_health_art2.php. I work in the distribution of Pauling's high dose vitamin C/lysine therapy for removing arterial blockages (www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ ) and am familiar with Dr. Belfield through Dr. Linus Pauling, as they were friends and colleagues. In fact, Dr. Pauling wrote the foreword for Dr. Belfield's book. Anyway, there is excellent information in Dr. Belfield's book about giving high dose vitamin C to FeLV+ cats to reverse the disease, provided it has not yet reached the bone marrow. Dr. Belfield, though now retired, has been willing to speak with me personally several times about this and I have used his product Mega C Plus, available from http://www.belfield.com/ www.Belfield.com. Though I was not able to save my Lukey because his disease had already progressed too far when I learned of Belfield's protocol, it may not be too late to reverse your boys with the Imulan LTCI and Belfield's vitamin C protocol. Alternatively, I have also been using intravenous vitamin C on one of my FeLV+ cats with lymphoma and he has now survived for one-and-a-half years beyond the date that his original vet said he should have died. He is happy, healthy and eating well, and in fact, though we expected him to predecease his FeLV+ buddy Lukey, Linus is still going strong while my darling Lukey died October 1 from his disease (we were not using the intravenous C on Lukey because he was seemingly healthy and we really couldn't afford to do two cats on this treatment at once). FYI, they tolerate the intravenous C VERY well and there are no known side effects with IV C at high doses for FeLV. If these two were mine, I would do everything in my power to find a vet in your area who would be willing to administer the IV C to these young cats who have yet no evidence of the disease in their bone marrow. I would recommend a drip at least two days a week and also supplementing their food with the Mega C Plus available from www.Belfield.com. If you need more info about the protocol, feel free to ask. Vets and others will tell you that cats and dogs make their own vitamin C and do not requirement supplemental C. While it is true that they do synthesize ascorbate in the liver from glucose, because of their domestication cats and dogs make the least amount of vitamin C of all animals and this is why they develop illnesses similar to humans who lack the enzyme L-gulonolactone oxidase (GLO) to make vitamin C in the liver including upper respiratory, cancers, etc. Along with humans, guinea pigs, primates and fruit bats also cannot make vitamin C in the liver. Vitamin C is required by these species at very high doses (far greater than the RDA). E.g., an adult rabbit makes the human equivalent of 15,000 mg of vitamin C in the liver each day and even more under stress, while a cat makes only 2800 mg. This is a must read site for info on vitamin C in veterinary use. http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sara, With regard to your recent post, I wanted to offer info available on the site of Wendell Belfield, DVM and in his book, The Very Healthy Cat http://www.belfield.com/books.php# Book. Dr. Belfield reports that he has reversed FeLV in young cats where the disease has not yet progressed to the bone marrow with high dose ascorbate (vitamin C). See http://www.belfield.com/pet_health_art2.php. I work in the distribution of Pauling's high dose vitamin C/lysine therapy for removing arterial blockages (www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ ) and am familiar with Dr. Belfield through Dr. Linus Pauling, as they were friends and colleagues. In fact, Dr. Pauling wrote the foreword for Dr. Belfield's book. Anyway, there is excellent information in Dr. Belfield's book about giving high dose vitamin C to FeLV+ cats to reverse the disease, provided it has not yet reached the bone marrow. Dr. Belfield, though now retired, has been willing to speak with me personally several times about this and I have used his product Mega C Plus, available from http://www.belfield.com/ www.Belfield.com. Though I was not able to save my Lukey because his disease had already progressed too far when I learned of Belfield's protocol, it may not be too late to reverse your boys with the Imulan LTCI and Belfield's vitamin C protocol. Alternatively, I have also been using intravenous vitamin C on one of my FeLV+ cats with lymphoma and he has now survived for one-and-a-half years beyond the date that his original vet said he should have died. He is happy, healthy and eating well, and in fact, though we expected him to predecease his FeLV+ buddy Lukey, Linus is still going strong while my darling Lukey died October 1 from his disease (we were not using the intravenous C on Lukey because he was seemingly healthy and we really couldn't afford to do two cats on this treatment at once). FYI, they tolerate the intravenous C VERY well and there are no known side effects with IV C at high doses for FeLV. If these two were mine, I would do everything in my power to find a vet in your area who would be willing to administer the IV C to these young cats who have yet no evidence of the disease in their bone marrow. I would recommend a drip at least two days a week and also supplementing their food with the Mega C Plus available from www.Belfield.com. If you need more info about the protocol, feel free to ask. Vets and others will tell you that cats and dogs make their own vitamin C and do not requirement supplemental C. While it is true that they do synthesize ascorbate in the liver from glucose, because of their domestication cats and dogs make the least amount of vitamin C of all animals and this is why they develop illnesses similar to humans who lack the enzyme L-gulonolactone oxidase (GLO) to make vitamin C in the liver including upper respiratory, cancers, etc. Along with humans, guinea pigs, primates and fruit bats also cannot make vitamin C in the liver. Vitamin C is required by these species at very high doses (far greater than the RDA). E.g., an adult rabbit makes the human equivalent of 15,000 mg of vitamin C in the liver each day and even more under stress, while a cat makes only 2800 mg. This is a must read site for info on vitamin C in veterinary use. http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
You're welcome, Gloria. If anyone has any questions let me know. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 12:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest Very interesting - thanks for posting that - Gloria On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:00 PM, S. Jewell wrote: Belinda, You would not have heard of it, unless you follow the likes of Robert Cathcart http://www.orthomed.com/publications1.html , Linus Pauling, Hugh Riordan, Irwin Stone, and Ewan Cameron, etc. regarding intravenous sodium ascorbate for treating disease. For the past decade I have worked in the distribution of the Pauling therapy (vitamin C/lysine) for reversing coronary artery plaques (www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ ) and as such have many connections in the alternative medicine circles including groups that currently treat cancers including stage IV with intravenous ascorbate, with frequent remissions (especially with lymphoma). I also knew about this from my familiarity with Dr. Cathcart's protocol for intravenous vitamin C in veterinary medicine. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm. I am also acquainted with Wendell Belfield, http://www.belfield.com/ DVM, now retired, who knew Linus Pauling and who in his vet practice reversed FeLV http://www.belfield.com/pet_health_art2.php in the early stages with high dose oral vitamin C, as well as FIP, and also hip dysplasia, distemper and parvo in dogs. Lastly, again, this therapy is used at Smith Ridge Veterinary Clinic in Salem, New York and I have consulted with Dr. Martin Goldstein and one of his associates on separate occasions. To my knowledge, Linus' lymphoma is not mediastinal, as there has been no fluid retention and no chest mass. His spleen remains slightly enlarged, as well as his submandibular and popliteal lymph nodes. He is due for a complete exam, x-rays and workup to see if his remission is maintaining and whether we need to begin the intravenous ascorbate again. After his terminal diagnosis last May 2008 he underwent IV drips during June, July and August and did fine until his foster caregiver dumped him in January of this year and I noticed the lymph glands enlarging again somewhat. At that time a different vet suggested palliative care only, though we had come too far not to try and repeat the drips, which I did again from January through March. He has had no drip since March and remains active, healthy, and happy, though the lymph nodes are still palpable. He will likely get some more drips in the coming month depending on what his next workup shows. The drips are very benign and do not cause him much discomfort other than placement of the catheter. Also, because he has received a good number of drips the skin on his forearms has toughened and it has become more difficult to find a place to insert the catheter (the last was placed in his back leg, which was a bit more uncomfortable to place). His cathethers are left in place for 2-3 days, depending on what he will allow, and he usually receives two drips in that period of approximately 12 grams each in ringer's solution (worked up to over time). Lukey was Linus' best friend and we never expected Lukey to die first. A flood in Louisville back in August triggered what we now suspect in Lukey was dry FIP, though at the time it went undiagnosed and the focus was placed on administering the Imulan LTCI. Had I known we were dealing with FIP, we may well have reversed it using the same protocol as we used for Linus. In fact, Lukey received two IV vitamin C drips and with each he seemed improved, though again, we didn't really know that we may be dealing with FIP at that time and so I did not think to continue the intravenous drips, thinking that they would do little to help his nonregenerative anemia that began to appear weeks after his initial possible FIP symptoms of anorexia, lethargy, borderline low lymphocyte count, and chronic fever that we could not attribute to infection, etc. In retrospect, that is exactly what we should have done for the FIP symptoms. Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
You're welcome, Gloria. If anyone has any questions let me know. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 12:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest Very interesting - thanks for posting that - Gloria On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:00 PM, S. Jewell wrote: Belinda, You would not have heard of it, unless you follow the likes of Robert Cathcart http://www.orthomed.com/publications1.html , Linus Pauling, Hugh Riordan, Irwin Stone, and Ewan Cameron, etc. regarding intravenous sodium ascorbate for treating disease. For the past decade I have worked in the distribution of the Pauling therapy (vitamin C/lysine) for reversing coronary artery plaques (www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ ) and as such have many connections in the alternative medicine circles including groups that currently treat cancers including stage IV with intravenous ascorbate, with frequent remissions (especially with lymphoma). I also knew about this from my familiarity with Dr. Cathcart's protocol for intravenous vitamin C in veterinary medicine. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm. I am also acquainted with Wendell Belfield, http://www.belfield.com/ DVM, now retired, who knew Linus Pauling and who in his vet practice reversed FeLV http://www.belfield.com/pet_health_art2.php in the early stages with high dose oral vitamin C, as well as FIP, and also hip dysplasia, distemper and parvo in dogs. Lastly, again, this therapy is used at Smith Ridge Veterinary Clinic in Salem, New York and I have consulted with Dr. Martin Goldstein and one of his associates on separate occasions. To my knowledge, Linus' lymphoma is not mediastinal, as there has been no fluid retention and no chest mass. His spleen remains slightly enlarged, as well as his submandibular and popliteal lymph nodes. He is due for a complete exam, x-rays and workup to see if his remission is maintaining and whether we need to begin the intravenous ascorbate again. After his terminal diagnosis last May 2008 he underwent IV drips during June, July and August and did fine until his foster caregiver dumped him in January of this year and I noticed the lymph glands enlarging again somewhat. At that time a different vet suggested palliative care only, though we had come too far not to try and repeat the drips, which I did again from January through March. He has had no drip since March and remains active, healthy, and happy, though the lymph nodes are still palpable. He will likely get some more drips in the coming month depending on what his next workup shows. The drips are very benign and do not cause him much discomfort other than placement of the catheter. Also, because he has received a good number of drips the skin on his forearms has toughened and it has become more difficult to find a place to insert the catheter (the last was placed in his back leg, which was a bit more uncomfortable to place). His cathethers are left in place for 2-3 days, depending on what he will allow, and he usually receives two drips in that period of approximately 12 grams each in ringer's solution (worked up to over time). Lukey was Linus' best friend and we never expected Lukey to die first. A flood in Louisville back in August triggered what we now suspect in Lukey was dry FIP, though at the time it went undiagnosed and the focus was placed on administering the Imulan LTCI. Had I known we were dealing with FIP, we may well have reversed it using the same protocol as we used for Linus. In fact, Lukey received two IV vitamin C drips and with each he seemed improved, though again, we didn't really know that we may be dealing with FIP at that time and so I did not think to continue the intravenous drips, thinking that they would do little to help his nonregenerative anemia that began to appear weeks after his initial possible FIP symptoms of anorexia, lethargy, borderline low lymphocyte count, and chronic fever that we could not attribute to infection, etc. In retrospect, that is exactly what we should have done for the FIP symptoms. Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
Belinda, You would not have heard of it, unless you follow the likes of Robert Cathcart http://www.orthomed.com/publications1.html , Linus Pauling, Hugh Riordan, Irwin Stone, and Ewan Cameron, etc. regarding intravenous sodium ascorbate for treating disease. For the past decade I have worked in the distribution of the Pauling therapy (vitamin C/lysine) for reversing coronary artery plaques (www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ ) and as such have many connections in the alternative medicine circles including groups that currently treat cancers including stage IV with intravenous ascorbate, with frequent remissions (especially with lymphoma). I also knew about this from my familiarity with Dr. Cathcart's protocol for intravenous vitamin C in veterinary medicine. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm. I am also acquainted with Wendell Belfield, http://www.belfield.com/ DVM, now retired, who knew Linus Pauling and who in his vet practice reversed FeLV http://www.belfield.com/pet_health_art2.php in the early stages with high dose oral vitamin C, as well as FIP, and also hip dysplasia, distemper and parvo in dogs. Lastly, again, this therapy is used at Smith Ridge Veterinary Clinic in Salem, New York and I have consulted with Dr. Martin Goldstein and one of his associates on separate occasions. To my knowledge, Linus' lymphoma is not mediastinal, as there has been no fluid retention and no chest mass. His spleen remains slightly enlarged, as well as his submandibular and popliteal lymph nodes. He is due for a complete exam, x-rays and workup to see if his remission is maintaining and whether we need to begin the intravenous ascorbate again. After his terminal diagnosis last May 2008 he underwent IV drips during June, July and August and did fine until his foster caregiver dumped him in January of this year and I noticed the lymph glands enlarging again somewhat. At that time a different vet suggested palliative care only, though we had come too far not to try and repeat the drips, which I did again from January through March. He has had no drip since March and remains active, healthy, and happy, though the lymph nodes are still palpable. He will likely get some more drips in the coming month depending on what his next workup shows. The drips are very benign and do not cause him much discomfort other than placement of the catheter. Also, because he has received a good number of drips the skin on his forearms has toughened and it has become more difficult to find a place to insert the catheter (the last was placed in his back leg, which was a bit more uncomfortable to place). His cathethers are left in place for 2-3 days, depending on what he will allow, and he usually receives two drips in that period of approximately 12 grams each in ringer's solution (worked up to over time). Lukey was Linus' best friend and we never expected Lukey to die first. A flood in Louisville back in August triggered what we now suspect in Lukey was dry FIP, though at the time it went undiagnosed and the focus was placed on administering the Imulan LTCI. Had I known we were dealing with FIP, we may well have reversed it using the same protocol as we used for Linus. In fact, Lukey received two IV vitamin C drips and with each he seemed improved, though again, we didn't really know that we may be dealing with FIP at that time and so I did not think to continue the intravenous drips, thinking that they would do little to help his nonregenerative anemia that began to appear weeks after his initial possible FIP symptoms of anorexia, lethargy, borderline low lymphocyte count, and chronic fever that we could not attribute to infection, etc. In retrospect, that is exactly what we should have done for the FIP symptoms. Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Fluid buildup in the chest
Belinda, You would not have heard of it, unless you follow the likes of Robert Cathcart http://www.orthomed.com/publications1.html , Linus Pauling, Hugh Riordan, Irwin Stone, and Ewan Cameron, etc. regarding intravenous sodium ascorbate for treating disease. For the past decade I have worked in the distribution of the Pauling therapy (vitamin C/lysine) for reversing coronary artery plaques (www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ ) and as such have many connections in the alternative medicine circles including groups that currently treat cancers including stage IV with intravenous ascorbate, with frequent remissions (especially with lymphoma). I also knew about this from my familiarity with Dr. Cathcart's protocol for intravenous vitamin C in veterinary medicine. See http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/belfield-w-j_int _assn_prev_med-1978-v2-n3-p10.htm. I am also acquainted with Wendell Belfield, http://www.belfield.com/ DVM, now retired, who knew Linus Pauling and who in his vet practice reversed FeLV http://www.belfield.com/pet_health_art2.php in the early stages with high dose oral vitamin C, as well as FIP, and also hip dysplasia, distemper and parvo in dogs. Lastly, again, this therapy is used at Smith Ridge Veterinary Clinic in Salem, New York and I have consulted with Dr. Martin Goldstein and one of his associates on separate occasions. To my knowledge, Linus' lymphoma is not mediastinal, as there has been no fluid retention and no chest mass. His spleen remains slightly enlarged, as well as his submandibular and popliteal lymph nodes. He is due for a complete exam, x-rays and workup to see if his remission is maintaining and whether we need to begin the intravenous ascorbate again. After his terminal diagnosis last May 2008 he underwent IV drips during June, July and August and did fine until his foster caregiver dumped him in January of this year and I noticed the lymph glands enlarging again somewhat. At that time a different vet suggested palliative care only, though we had come too far not to try and repeat the drips, which I did again from January through March. He has had no drip since March and remains active, healthy, and happy, though the lymph nodes are still palpable. He will likely get some more drips in the coming month depending on what his next workup shows. The drips are very benign and do not cause him much discomfort other than placement of the catheter. Also, because he has received a good number of drips the skin on his forearms has toughened and it has become more difficult to find a place to insert the catheter (the last was placed in his back leg, which was a bit more uncomfortable to place). His cathethers are left in place for 2-3 days, depending on what he will allow, and he usually receives two drips in that period of approximately 12 grams each in ringer's solution (worked up to over time). Lukey was Linus' best friend and we never expected Lukey to die first. A flood in Louisville back in August triggered what we now suspect in Lukey was dry FIP, though at the time it went undiagnosed and the focus was placed on administering the Imulan LTCI. Had I known we were dealing with FIP, we may well have reversed it using the same protocol as we used for Linus. In fact, Lukey received two IV vitamin C drips and with each he seemed improved, though again, we didn't really know that we may be dealing with FIP at that time and so I did not think to continue the intravenous drips, thinking that they would do little to help his nonregenerative anemia that began to appear weeks after his initial possible FIP symptoms of anorexia, lethargy, borderline low lymphocyte count, and chronic fever that we could not attribute to infection, etc. In retrospect, that is exactly what we should have done for the FIP symptoms. Sally Jewell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
Has anyone been able to obtain or use Baypamun for FeLV? Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
Has anyone been able to obtain or use Baypamun for FeLV? Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Esther Jorda Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Acemannan
A vet at the Smith Ridge Veterinary Clinic recommended it to me during a paid consultation recently for Lukey but it was $175.00 and in the midst of our LTCI injections I just couldn't afford to do both. Would love to know if anyone else has actually used it. To my understanding it is a glyconutrient similar to Ambrotose that Jenny is using with Autumn??? Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Acemannan Has anyone presently on the list ever used Acemannan for their FeLV positive cat(s)? Gary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Acemannan
A vet at the Smith Ridge Veterinary Clinic recommended it to me during a paid consultation recently for Lukey but it was $175.00 and in the midst of our LTCI injections I just couldn't afford to do both. Would love to know if anyone else has actually used it. To my understanding it is a glyconutrient similar to Ambrotose that Jenny is using with Autumn??? Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Acemannan Has anyone presently on the list ever used Acemannan for their FeLV positive cat(s)? Gary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A
Thanks, Diane. As it turns out, I took Lukey to the vet today and his HCT was down to 12 and they thought it best to transfuse. He is still getting the blood as I write and after that they will be putting in the e-tube. The good news is that both his lymphocyte and reticulocyte counts were up significantly today from Friday, so the LTCI is definitely working. We just had to buy him some more time to give the new cells time to mature and hopefully the transfusion will give us the time we need. I appreciate all of your thoughts, prayers and concern. It has been a stressful weekend for Lukey and me but hopefully after today things will start looking up for my little man. He's such a little fighter. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A I understand perfectly -- *after* or maybe because of being put under to have this procedure, MY Luc (negative but possible pancreatitis followed by hepatic lipidosis) didn't react well to anesthetic. He's got a harmless wheeze now sometimes, and we haven't even wanted to put him under for teeth cleaning. I'm sure your vet will make the right decisions about which kind of feeding is best. Continued good wishes for you and Lukey. Luc sends four-pack-a-day-sounding purrs your way. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tower Laboratories Corporation Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A Thanks so much, Diane. I appreciate your concern and good vibes coming our way! We vacillated about which type of feeding tube and because his RBC count is so low and he's pretty weak, we were leery about putting him to sleep to put the esophageal tube in. It may come to that but for now the other seems to be staying put, though understandably, he doesn't like it much. Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com The information provided herein is educational and is not intended as either diagnosis or treatment. The content of this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is directly addressed or copied. It may contain material of confidential and/or private nature. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is not allowed. If you received this message and the information contained therein by error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your/any storage medium. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A Here are vibes that Lukey gets the time he needs to bounce back! Just curious, why naso tube instead of esophageal? I thought the latter were easier on the cat and easier to work with. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tower Laboratories Corporation Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A Hi, Jenny and all, Lukey is not doing well. He has become much more anemic while we've been waiting on the LTCI to work. The good news is that though his lymphocytes are way down, his RBCs appear to be regenerating somewhat, so there is still hope if we can keep him from crashing from the anemia. I'm wondering if you can tell me what Autumn's numbers were when it was decided that a transfusion was necessary? My vet has advised against it because of the risk, though I don't want to wait too long if that is what it will take to save him while the LTCI continues to work on his RBCs. The vet is putting in a nasogastric feeding tube because he continues to fight us on the syringe feeding and is now bone thin. He is also getting intravenous fluids and high doses of vitamin C. He doesn't seem to be
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A
Thanks, Diane. As it turns out, I took Lukey to the vet today and his HCT was down to 12 and they thought it best to transfuse. He is still getting the blood as I write and after that they will be putting in the e-tube. The good news is that both his lymphocyte and reticulocyte counts were up significantly today from Friday, so the LTCI is definitely working. We just had to buy him some more time to give the new cells time to mature and hopefully the transfusion will give us the time we need. I appreciate all of your thoughts, prayers and concern. It has been a stressful weekend for Lukey and me but hopefully after today things will start looking up for my little man. He's such a little fighter. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A I understand perfectly -- *after* or maybe because of being put under to have this procedure, MY Luc (negative but possible pancreatitis followed by hepatic lipidosis) didn't react well to anesthetic. He's got a harmless wheeze now sometimes, and we haven't even wanted to put him under for teeth cleaning. I'm sure your vet will make the right decisions about which kind of feeding is best. Continued good wishes for you and Lukey. Luc sends four-pack-a-day-sounding purrs your way. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tower Laboratories Corporation Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A Thanks so much, Diane. I appreciate your concern and good vibes coming our way! We vacillated about which type of feeding tube and because his RBC count is so low and he's pretty weak, we were leery about putting him to sleep to put the esophageal tube in. It may come to that but for now the other seems to be staying put, though understandably, he doesn't like it much. Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com The information provided herein is educational and is not intended as either diagnosis or treatment. The content of this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is directly addressed or copied. It may contain material of confidential and/or private nature. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is not allowed. If you received this message and the information contained therein by error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your/any storage medium. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A Here are vibes that Lukey gets the time he needs to bounce back! Just curious, why naso tube instead of esophageal? I thought the latter were easier on the cat and easier to work with. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tower Laboratories Corporation Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A Hi, Jenny and all, Lukey is not doing well. He has become much more anemic while we've been waiting on the LTCI to work. The good news is that though his lymphocytes are way down, his RBCs appear to be regenerating somewhat, so there is still hope if we can keep him from crashing from the anemia. I'm wondering if you can tell me what Autumn's numbers were when it was decided that a transfusion was necessary? My vet has advised against it because of the risk, though I don't want to wait too long if that is what it will take to save him while the LTCI continues to work on his RBCs. The vet is putting in a nasogastric feeding tube because he continues to fight us on the syringe feeding and is now bone thin. He is also getting intravenous fluids and high doses of vitamin C. He doesn't seem to be
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A
Hi, Jenny, Got a new CBC today and his lymphocyte and reticulocyte numbers are much better than Friday. Call me when you get time and I'll go over them with you. They went ahead and did the transfusion and e-tube placement today and I've been a nervous wreck. Still waiting to hear how it all went. Hope you had a good weekend, and kisses and hugs to Autumn and your gang. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A Sally, Not a good report, but not entirely without hope either. Do you happen to know the specific numbers on the CBCs? Get a copy of the reports. Read them carefully - vets miss things sometimes and don't always remember to convey all the information they have when they meet with you. It happens, not intentionally or maliciously. Here is specifically what I would like to know: 1. Reticulocyte count for each CBC you had done- if this number is increasing (I would like to see by way of thousands or tens of thousands) than you are certainly on the right path and need only wait until those cells become mature enough to replenish the RBCs in the peripheral blood. A regenerating anemia is defined as a reticulocyte count greater than 15,000 (for most labs). An exact number and change in numbers over time would give me a better idea of what is going on in his bone marrow. Understand that it takes time for these cells to mature before they become fully functional for his needs - in the meantime a blood transfusion could be necessary. 2.Hematocrit - most vets will transfuse around 18 or 19. If this is his first transfusion and he has a hematocrit around 14-15, I would not hesitate to transfuse. In general the first transfusion is kind of a freebee. They generally do not have a reaction until subsequent transfusions. Your vet, however, should make sure that the transfused blood is a match for Lukey. You can do a type and cross or a full panel (~$100.00). If she is uncomfortable about this I would go to an emergency vet or someone who feels comfortable doing them. It should be a slow transfusion and he should be monitored for any signs of a reaction. If there is, you simply stop the transfusion. It is a risk/benefit analysis. In my opinion, a hematocrit of 15 is certainly worth transfusing. I would not hesitate - not even one day. Again, I would like to see the numbers. 3. Lymphocytes - this number should be increasing as a sign of stimulated immune response (a sign the LTCI is working)- I would like to know all results from the first to the last blood draws. 4. Platlets - an increase in these also suggests a stimulated bone marrow indicating the LTCI is working. Autumn had a hematocrit of 10, I believe, when I brought her in for the first visit. She had a hematocrit of 4 when I transfused her. I would not recommend waiting this long. She was dying, a matter of hours and she would have died. Do not wait until this point. Here's the concept. Mature RBCs live about 2 1/2 to 3 months in most cats, at the end of that time, the spleen destroys the old cells in anticipation of new ones. It is likely that Lukey has had a suppressed production of RBCs for quite some time and now the old RBCs are being destroyed. If his bone marrow sort of woke up after the LTCI injection, it takes weeks for the bone marrow to generate the cells and then more time for them to mature. So in the cycle of normal bone marrow production of RBCs and destruction by the spleen, Lukey's cycle was interrupted and now weeks later when the old RBCs are dying there aren't any new mature ones to take their place. If there is evidence that the bone marrow is waking up (increased reticulocyte count, lymphocyte count and platelet count) what you need to do is provide supportive care until those cells can mature and do their job. This may very well include a transfusion. I would not fear the transfusion because of a reaction if he is that severely anemic. Everyday his old cells are dying. It is a race between new maturing RBCs and destruction of the old ones. The statement that Lukey has a regenerative anemia is very promising. Right now is a very difficult time for you and for him as he is in the lull between the suppressing effects of Felv+ and the hopefully productive effects of LTCI. You are seeing a clinically diminishing status but his lab work suggests improvement. I would rely on the labs and take heart in the promising numbers. If you give me the numbers I can tell you how happy or not happy I would be with the presence of and rate of improvement. Take heart knowing that the clnical improvement will be slow and delayed from the lab
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A
Hi, Jenny, Got a new CBC today and his lymphocyte and reticulocyte numbers are much better than Friday. Call me when you get time and I'll go over them with you. They went ahead and did the transfusion and e-tube placement today and I've been a nervous wreck. Still waiting to hear how it all went. Hope you had a good weekend, and kisses and hugs to Autumn and your gang. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Q re Staph Protein A Sally, Not a good report, but not entirely without hope either. Do you happen to know the specific numbers on the CBCs? Get a copy of the reports. Read them carefully - vets miss things sometimes and don't always remember to convey all the information they have when they meet with you. It happens, not intentionally or maliciously. Here is specifically what I would like to know: 1. Reticulocyte count for each CBC you had done- if this number is increasing (I would like to see by way of thousands or tens of thousands) than you are certainly on the right path and need only wait until those cells become mature enough to replenish the RBCs in the peripheral blood. A regenerating anemia is defined as a reticulocyte count greater than 15,000 (for most labs). An exact number and change in numbers over time would give me a better idea of what is going on in his bone marrow. Understand that it takes time for these cells to mature before they become fully functional for his needs - in the meantime a blood transfusion could be necessary. 2.Hematocrit - most vets will transfuse around 18 or 19. If this is his first transfusion and he has a hematocrit around 14-15, I would not hesitate to transfuse. In general the first transfusion is kind of a freebee. They generally do not have a reaction until subsequent transfusions. Your vet, however, should make sure that the transfused blood is a match for Lukey. You can do a type and cross or a full panel (~$100.00). If she is uncomfortable about this I would go to an emergency vet or someone who feels comfortable doing them. It should be a slow transfusion and he should be monitored for any signs of a reaction. If there is, you simply stop the transfusion. It is a risk/benefit analysis. In my opinion, a hematocrit of 15 is certainly worth transfusing. I would not hesitate - not even one day. Again, I would like to see the numbers. 3. Lymphocytes - this number should be increasing as a sign of stimulated immune response (a sign the LTCI is working)- I would like to know all results from the first to the last blood draws. 4. Platlets - an increase in these also suggests a stimulated bone marrow indicating the LTCI is working. Autumn had a hematocrit of 10, I believe, when I brought her in for the first visit. She had a hematocrit of 4 when I transfused her. I would not recommend waiting this long. She was dying, a matter of hours and she would have died. Do not wait until this point. Here's the concept. Mature RBCs live about 2 1/2 to 3 months in most cats, at the end of that time, the spleen destroys the old cells in anticipation of new ones. It is likely that Lukey has had a suppressed production of RBCs for quite some time and now the old RBCs are being destroyed. If his bone marrow sort of woke up after the LTCI injection, it takes weeks for the bone marrow to generate the cells and then more time for them to mature. So in the cycle of normal bone marrow production of RBCs and destruction by the spleen, Lukey's cycle was interrupted and now weeks later when the old RBCs are dying there aren't any new mature ones to take their place. If there is evidence that the bone marrow is waking up (increased reticulocyte count, lymphocyte count and platelet count) what you need to do is provide supportive care until those cells can mature and do their job. This may very well include a transfusion. I would not fear the transfusion because of a reaction if he is that severely anemic. Everyday his old cells are dying. It is a race between new maturing RBCs and destruction of the old ones. The statement that Lukey has a regenerative anemia is very promising. Right now is a very difficult time for you and for him as he is in the lull between the suppressing effects of Felv+ and the hopefully productive effects of LTCI. You are seeing a clinically diminishing status but his lab work suggests improvement. I would rely on the labs and take heart in the promising numbers. If you give me the numbers I can tell you how happy or not happy I would be with the presence of and rate of improvement. Take heart knowing that the clnical improvement will be slow and delayed from the lab
Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn update and everyone else
Thank you, Jenny. I appreciate your thoughts, prayers and kindness. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn update and everyone else Hi Sally, I really hope the blood work looks good for Lukey. I'll keep him in my prayers. Great news about the FIV cat. I have one FIV cat perhaps I will try the injection with him. Thanks for the info. Jenny On 9/21/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: Hi All, This email is from Sally to Jenny, it bounced so I forward it. Jim can you see why her email is bouncing, thanks? Yes, terrific news, and thanks again, Jenny, for all your phone support and information. Lukey is still stable but still not wanting to eat on his own. I will be giving him a dose of cyproheptadine in his ear today or tomorrow in an effort to stimulate his appetite. He has a bit more energy (and certainly enough to fight us on the force feeding) but still nothing to write home about. He received his third shot of LTCI this past Saturday and I hope to have blood work done on him this week. FYI, for those of you with FIV+ cats, I heard from a friend who runs a shelter today about her use of the LTCI on her cat with FIV and after nearly a year on the medication he is now testing negative for FIV. Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com http://www.paulingtherapystore.com/ The information provided herein is educational and is not intended as either diagnosis or treatment. The content of this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is directly addressed or copied. It may contain material of confidential and/or private nature. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is not allowed. If you received this message and the information contained therein by error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your/any storage medium. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com http://belindasauro.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn update and everyone else
Thank you, Jenny. I appreciate your thoughts, prayers and kindness. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn update and everyone else Hi Sally, I really hope the blood work looks good for Lukey. I'll keep him in my prayers. Great news about the FIV cat. I have one FIV cat perhaps I will try the injection with him. Thanks for the info. Jenny On 9/21/09, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: Hi All, This email is from Sally to Jenny, it bounced so I forward it. Jim can you see why her email is bouncing, thanks? Yes, terrific news, and thanks again, Jenny, for all your phone support and information. Lukey is still stable but still not wanting to eat on his own. I will be giving him a dose of cyproheptadine in his ear today or tomorrow in an effort to stimulate his appetite. He has a bit more energy (and certainly enough to fight us on the force feeding) but still nothing to write home about. He received his third shot of LTCI this past Saturday and I hope to have blood work done on him this week. FYI, for those of you with FIV+ cats, I heard from a friend who runs a shelter today about her use of the LTCI on her cat with FIV and after nearly a year on the medication he is now testing negative for FIV. Sally Snyder Jewell Sally Snyder Jewell, Marketing Director Tower Laboratories Corporation Manufacturers of Pauling Therapy Formulas for Coronary Heart Disease Since 1996 http://www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ E-mail: sa...@towerlaboratories.com Toll Free: 1-877-TOWER-LABS (1-877.869.3752) Voice: 502.368.2720; 502.368.2721 Fax: 502.368.0019 Pauling Therapy Information Web site: http://www.HeartTech.com http://www.hearttech.com/ Pauling Therapy Order Link: http://www.PaulingTherapyStore.com http://www.paulingtherapystore.com/ The information provided herein is educational and is not intended as either diagnosis or treatment. The content of this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is directly addressed or copied. It may contain material of confidential and/or private nature. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is not allowed. If you received this message and the information contained therein by error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your/any storage medium. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com http://belindasauro.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie
Thanks for elaborating on Gray Kitty's health and treatment history, Christy. We're all obviously interested in how the LTCI is helping other cats and making comparison notes for our own kitties who are currently undergoing the same treatment protocol. I am wondering if your vet thinks the blood transfusion was instrumental in Gray Kitty's ultimate FeLV negative status or whether it was strictly due to the LTCI administration. My vet recommended against the blood transfusion for my Lukey at his last visit because his anemia was stable and not worsening at that point and because there are also risks associated with the blood transfusion. If I thought it would facilitate a negative FeLV status I would certainly undertake it along with the LTCI treatments but would need more information. Thanks again for your efforts to keep us all updated with Gray Kitty's history and medical treatment. I appreciate it very, very much. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christy Buchin Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:07 PM To: Feline Leukemia Website Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie Gray Kitty just turned 2 years old on September 6th. He was diagnoses on his 1st birthday. Up until about 3 or so months ago, he still tested positive with both types of tests. He has had two blood transfusions and two bone marrow biopsies. The second biopsy confirmed the FeLV had gone into his bone marrow at UCD. We also work with a specialist out of Michigan who used to do bone marrow transplants in cats. He along with our vet, has guided us with is meds. We are currently reducing his Prednisolone as he has started a new one that will not have as much harmful long term effects on him. From: gcru...@centurytel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:34:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie Hi, Glad your kitty is testing negative. Could you answer a few questions, please? How old is you cat? How long ago did he test positive for FeLV? Did he test positive on an IFA test, or just the SNAP test? How many LTCI shots has he had? And why is he on an immune modulator like LTCI and at the same time on an immune suppressant like pred.? Thanks, Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Hotmail Junk Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie I wish you the best! My cat uses the same medication has tested negative for leukemia for the last few months. We have no idea if it is the injections or what. He is also on Prednisolone has bi- weekly blood test to check levels. We just take one day at a time. Hang in there! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg _ Insert movie times and more without leaving HotmailR. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TA GLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie
Thanks for elaborating on Gray Kitty's health and treatment history, Christy. We're all obviously interested in how the LTCI is helping other cats and making comparison notes for our own kitties who are currently undergoing the same treatment protocol. I am wondering if your vet thinks the blood transfusion was instrumental in Gray Kitty's ultimate FeLV negative status or whether it was strictly due to the LTCI administration. My vet recommended against the blood transfusion for my Lukey at his last visit because his anemia was stable and not worsening at that point and because there are also risks associated with the blood transfusion. If I thought it would facilitate a negative FeLV status I would certainly undertake it along with the LTCI treatments but would need more information. Thanks again for your efforts to keep us all updated with Gray Kitty's history and medical treatment. I appreciate it very, very much. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christy Buchin Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:07 PM To: Feline Leukemia Website Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie Gray Kitty just turned 2 years old on September 6th. He was diagnoses on his 1st birthday. Up until about 3 or so months ago, he still tested positive with both types of tests. He has had two blood transfusions and two bone marrow biopsies. The second biopsy confirmed the FeLV had gone into his bone marrow at UCD. We also work with a specialist out of Michigan who used to do bone marrow transplants in cats. He along with our vet, has guided us with is meds. We are currently reducing his Prednisolone as he has started a new one that will not have as much harmful long term effects on him. From: gcru...@centurytel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:34:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie Hi, Glad your kitty is testing negative. Could you answer a few questions, please? How old is you cat? How long ago did he test positive for FeLV? Did he test positive on an IFA test, or just the SNAP test? How many LTCI shots has he had? And why is he on an immune modulator like LTCI and at the same time on an immune suppressant like pred.? Thanks, Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Hotmail Junk Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie I wish you the best! My cat uses the same medication has tested negative for leukemia for the last few months. We have no idea if it is the injections or what. He is also on Prednisolone has bi- weekly blood test to check levels. We just take one day at a time. Hang in there! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg _ Insert movie times and more without leaving HotmailR. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TA GLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list
Thanks so much for getting back with me about your sanctuary, Michael. I appreciate what you are doing and will keep your contact information for future purposes. It's terrific to have found this group and the fine cat lovers in it and I wish you all the best as we struggle to care for these lucky FeLV babies! Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Hi Sally, you might be surprised to find out about our small little sanctuary. we are a home based group that uses our house to shelter ONLY FeLV cats. we take no others currently we have 9 cats here that are all in really great shape. I try to keep a limit on how many cats we have and i think that we are going to have the ones here for a good bit, but that doesn't stop me from helping with others. we are located in Nv Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: S. Jewell ssjew...@bellsouth.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:03:52 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Michael Johnson, I'm new here but saw your name on this forum and read that you have an FeLV Sanctuary. I was wondering for future reference whether you are full or still have openings for FeLV fur babies. I am caring for three with one on Imulan and one receiving intravenous ascorbic acid weekly for his lymphosarcoma and I also have more cats than I should mention that are healthy and do not have the virus. Because we are so full and our vet costs so significant right now, I cannot take in any more FeLV cats that come my way but we hear of them occasionally. My husband and I would gladly try to scrape together the $500 on an individual cat basis for any FeLV cats that would otherwise be euthanized if we knew you could take them . It would be good to have your contact information for use in the future. Thanks, and God bless you for what you do for these unfortunate but very lucky felines. Sally Jewell www.SallysCatHouse.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list here and all kitties accounted for and happy Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:20:40 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Hey all, I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any activity since Monday. I hope no news is good news for everyone here. Please let me know if you're having any problems with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list
Thanks so much for getting back with me about your sanctuary, Michael. I appreciate what you are doing and will keep your contact information for future purposes. It's terrific to have found this group and the fine cat lovers in it and I wish you all the best as we struggle to care for these lucky FeLV babies! Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Hi Sally, you might be surprised to find out about our small little sanctuary. we are a home based group that uses our house to shelter ONLY FeLV cats. we take no others currently we have 9 cats here that are all in really great shape. I try to keep a limit on how many cats we have and i think that we are going to have the ones here for a good bit, but that doesn't stop me from helping with others. we are located in Nv Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: S. Jewell ssjew...@bellsouth.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:03:52 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Michael Johnson, I'm new here but saw your name on this forum and read that you have an FeLV Sanctuary. I was wondering for future reference whether you are full or still have openings for FeLV fur babies. I am caring for three with one on Imulan and one receiving intravenous ascorbic acid weekly for his lymphosarcoma and I also have more cats than I should mention that are healthy and do not have the virus. Because we are so full and our vet costs so significant right now, I cannot take in any more FeLV cats that come my way but we hear of them occasionally. My husband and I would gladly try to scrape together the $500 on an individual cat basis for any FeLV cats that would otherwise be euthanized if we knew you could take them . It would be good to have your contact information for use in the future. Thanks, and God bless you for what you do for these unfortunate but very lucky felines. Sally Jewell www.SallysCatHouse.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list here and all kitties accounted for and happy Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:20:40 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Hey all, I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any activity since Monday. I hope no news is good news for everyone here. Please let me know if you're having any problems with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list
Michael Johnson, I'm new here but saw your name on this forum and read that you have an FeLV Sanctuary. I was wondering for future reference whether you are full or still have openings for FeLV fur babies. I am caring for three with one on Imulan and one receiving intravenous ascorbic acid weekly for his lymphosarcoma and I also have more cats than I should mention that are healthy and do not have the virus. Because we are so full and our vet costs so significant right now, I cannot take in any more FeLV cats that come my way but we hear of them occasionally. My husband and I would gladly try to scrape together the $500 on an individual cat basis for any FeLV cats that would otherwise be euthanized if we knew you could take them . It would be good to have your contact information for use in the future. Thanks, and God bless you for what you do for these unfortunate but very lucky felines. Sally Jewell www.SallysCatHouse.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list here and all kitties accounted for and happy Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:20:40 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Hey all, I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any activity since Monday. I hope no news is good news for everyone here. Please let me know if you're having any problems with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list
Michael Johnson, I'm new here but saw your name on this forum and read that you have an FeLV Sanctuary. I was wondering for future reference whether you are full or still have openings for FeLV fur babies. I am caring for three with one on Imulan and one receiving intravenous ascorbic acid weekly for his lymphosarcoma and I also have more cats than I should mention that are healthy and do not have the virus. Because we are so full and our vet costs so significant right now, I cannot take in any more FeLV cats that come my way but we hear of them occasionally. My husband and I would gladly try to scrape together the $500 on an individual cat basis for any FeLV cats that would otherwise be euthanized if we knew you could take them . It would be good to have your contact information for use in the future. Thanks, and God bless you for what you do for these unfortunate but very lucky felines. Sally Jewell www.SallysCatHouse.com -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Second Chance Meows Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list here and all kitties accounted for and happy Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:20:40 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Hey all, I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any activity since Monday. I hope no news is good news for everyone here. Please let me know if you're having any problems with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie
Would love to know how long your cat had been FeLV positive before being started on Imulan's LTCI and how long he was on the Imulan before the FeLV negative blood test? My cat just received his third injection and though he was heading into anemia and had stopped eating, with syringe feeding and three shots on board he's no worse than he was, so we're hopeful. Still, it would be wonderful to know what type of time frame we're looking at for any hope of a negative FeLV status with the LTCI. Thanks so much! Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Hotmail Junk Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie I wish you the best! My cat uses the same medication has tested negative for leukemia for the last few months. We have no idea if it is the injections or what. He is also on Prednisolone has bi-weekly blood test to check levels. We just take one day at a time. Hang in there! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Fingers and paws crossed that the shots help. Sharyl --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 3:11 AM We have our fingers crossed!! We arrived at our vet's office right after the shipment arrived. Rosie and Murphy had their exams and blood drawn for baselines-CBCs and their 3rd FeLV tests. We have previous tests from June 3rd this year also. Those tests showed that Murphy's levels were changing (similar to Schatzi's who just passed less than a month ago). We are really concerned for our last 2 cats because Rosie (tabby) is the only female of the litter of 5-her 4 brothers have passed away in the last 5 months from severe anemia. She has just turned a year old last month-she insists on a game of fetch several times a day with her lamb's wool mouse. (she has plucked most of the wool off and I can't find another one.) Murphy is a semi long haired, polydactyl, tuxedo boy with 7 toes on each front foot and a spare on each hind foot-He was dumped into the feral colony that Rosie and her brothers came from. He is the sweetest boy, so playful and just wants to hang out with you-he follows you around like a dog. He looks like he has Ov-Gloves on! Anyway-this disease seems like a switch is flipped on and there is nothing we can do to save them-we are hoping that using this product before the symptoms of anemia appear will give us some chance of them surviving for a long time. Maybe by taking a proactive approach we will be able to turn the odds a little. We are beginning with one injection a week for a month, then every two weeks...to once a month. Blood will be drawn every two weeks at first. We had the first injections at the vet's office today (the tech did Murphy's and she watched while I gave Rosie's). I will be giving the remaining 8 doses at home to save costs. We'll have the blood test results back Monday. Say a little prayer for us. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie
Would love to know how long your cat had been FeLV positive before being started on Imulan's LTCI and how long he was on the Imulan before the FeLV negative blood test? My cat just received his third injection and though he was heading into anemia and had stopped eating, with syringe feeding and three shots on board he's no worse than he was, so we're hopeful. Still, it would be wonderful to know what type of time frame we're looking at for any hope of a negative FeLV status with the LTCI. Thanks so much! Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Hotmail Junk Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie I wish you the best! My cat uses the same medication has tested negative for leukemia for the last few months. We have no idea if it is the injections or what. He is also on Prednisolone has bi-weekly blood test to check levels. We just take one day at a time. Hang in there! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Fingers and paws crossed that the shots help. Sharyl --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 3:11 AM We have our fingers crossed!! We arrived at our vet's office right after the shipment arrived. Rosie and Murphy had their exams and blood drawn for baselines-CBCs and their 3rd FeLV tests. We have previous tests from June 3rd this year also. Those tests showed that Murphy's levels were changing (similar to Schatzi's who just passed less than a month ago). We are really concerned for our last 2 cats because Rosie (tabby) is the only female of the litter of 5-her 4 brothers have passed away in the last 5 months from severe anemia. She has just turned a year old last month-she insists on a game of fetch several times a day with her lamb's wool mouse. (she has plucked most of the wool off and I can't find another one.) Murphy is a semi long haired, polydactyl, tuxedo boy with 7 toes on each front foot and a spare on each hind foot-He was dumped into the feral colony that Rosie and her brothers came from. He is the sweetest boy, so playful and just wants to hang out with you-he follows you around like a dog. He looks like he has Ov-Gloves on! Anyway-this disease seems like a switch is flipped on and there is nothing we can do to save them-we are hoping that using this product before the symptoms of anemia appear will give us some chance of them surviving for a long time. Maybe by taking a proactive approach we will be able to turn the odds a little. We are beginning with one injection a week for a month, then every two weeks...to once a month. Blood will be drawn every two weeks at first. We had the first injections at the vet's office today (the tech did Murphy's and she watched while I gave Rosie's). I will be giving the remaining 8 doses at home to save costs. We'll have the blood test results back Monday. Say a little prayer for us. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Thanks so much, Jenny. His stools are firming up again and we're not sure what the problem was/is. Stool sample was negative for parasites. No antibiotic use. His blood count yesterday was stable - not improved but no worse since his last blood work on 9/3. He had his first shot of LTCI on Saturday. Reticulocytes were minimally improved from his blood work on Friday. RBCs just a tad lower but not drastically. I am still syringe feeding him daily and his weight is holding. Now if we can just get a couple more LTCI shots on board and keep him stable until they have time to work.Vet advised against a blood transfusion right now because of the possible side effects and because he seems to be maintaining and is not critically anemic. Thanks for your detailed response, Jenny. I know the time it takes to respond to others and I am very appreciative of your efforts. I hope Autumn continues to do well and will look forward to additional reports on her. Thanks again, Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:07 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Sally, I hope this gets to you. I don't always get all of the emails from this group so I hope you get this one. I just wanted to answer your question about diarrhea. Diarrhea can be difficult to diagnose a cause. In general, the first thing I would rule out are intestinal parasites - a stool sample helps (unless you are quite confident this is not likely - than it's just a waste of money). Second, bacterial and viral gastroenteritis (inflammation of the GI tract) can cause diarrhea - this may be secondary to antibiotic use or simply due to a failing immune system. If he's on an antibiotic I would try giving the antibiotic with food and using a probiotic like Acidophilus. It is a bacteria that coats the intestinal lining and blocks bad bacteria from causing infection. You can get it at Walgreens - just divide the recommended human dose by 15 and you should be pretty close to a cat's needs. Other causes could be a change in food, stress, GI auto inflammatory disease, etc. If this is a relatively new development it is probably either parasitic, bacterial/viral, secondary to oral antibiotic use, or stress (physical or emmotional) I would probably just give Acidophilus a try, since it is easy to use, doesn't require a prescription and has a low potential for bad side effects. If I suspected worms, I would bring a stool sample to the vet and finally, if nothing else turns up I may request Metronidazole from the vet (if they were willing to try it) - it is an antiobiotic that treats anaerobic bacteria and some protozoan infections that are hard to pick up on a stool sample and commonly cause GI upset. Hope that helps. Jenny On 9/8/09, S. Jewell ssjew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Wow, Jenny, that's a WONDERFUL report and very encouraging to me and many others, I'm sure. At your suggestion (and thanks for the e-mail and phone messages), I began Lukey's syringe feeding yesterday with A/D and Gatorade. He did very well with both. I'm on my way out to feed him again this morning and then taking him back to the vet to put him on intravenous fluids and vitamin C to help with whatever infection may be going on, if any. Still not sure about what is causing the fever because his blood work was normal last Thursday except for a borderline low lymphocyte count and mild anemia (don't recall the numbers right now). The fluids seem to help the fever a lot, though, so it may in fact be from dehydration. We may go ahead and start him on antibiotics as well to be on the safe side, and he will be evaluated today as to any need for a transfusion, though I don't believe his anemia is that severe yet. One question: He appears to have some diarrhea, first noticed on Saturday. Do you have any thoughts about what might be causing the diarrhea or has Autumn experienced this? It was before his first LTCI shot, also given on Saturday. Thanks again for the wonderful and promising news. I have been so depressed all weekend and this certainly gives me hope for my Lukey. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Thanks so much, Jenny. His stools are firming up again and we're not sure what the problem was/is. Stool sample was negative for parasites. No antibiotic use. His blood count yesterday was stable - not improved but no worse since his last blood work on 9/3. He had his first shot of LTCI on Saturday. Reticulocytes were minimally improved from his blood work on Friday. RBCs just a tad lower but not drastically. I am still syringe feeding him daily and his weight is holding. Now if we can just get a couple more LTCI shots on board and keep him stable until they have time to work.Vet advised against a blood transfusion right now because of the possible side effects and because he seems to be maintaining and is not critically anemic. Thanks for your detailed response, Jenny. I know the time it takes to respond to others and I am very appreciative of your efforts. I hope Autumn continues to do well and will look forward to additional reports on her. Thanks again, Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:07 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Sally, I hope this gets to you. I don't always get all of the emails from this group so I hope you get this one. I just wanted to answer your question about diarrhea. Diarrhea can be difficult to diagnose a cause. In general, the first thing I would rule out are intestinal parasites - a stool sample helps (unless you are quite confident this is not likely - than it's just a waste of money). Second, bacterial and viral gastroenteritis (inflammation of the GI tract) can cause diarrhea - this may be secondary to antibiotic use or simply due to a failing immune system. If he's on an antibiotic I would try giving the antibiotic with food and using a probiotic like Acidophilus. It is a bacteria that coats the intestinal lining and blocks bad bacteria from causing infection. You can get it at Walgreens - just divide the recommended human dose by 15 and you should be pretty close to a cat's needs. Other causes could be a change in food, stress, GI auto inflammatory disease, etc. If this is a relatively new development it is probably either parasitic, bacterial/viral, secondary to oral antibiotic use, or stress (physical or emmotional) I would probably just give Acidophilus a try, since it is easy to use, doesn't require a prescription and has a low potential for bad side effects. If I suspected worms, I would bring a stool sample to the vet and finally, if nothing else turns up I may request Metronidazole from the vet (if they were willing to try it) - it is an antiobiotic that treats anaerobic bacteria and some protozoan infections that are hard to pick up on a stool sample and commonly cause GI upset. Hope that helps. Jenny On 9/8/09, S. Jewell ssjew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Wow, Jenny, that's a WONDERFUL report and very encouraging to me and many others, I'm sure. At your suggestion (and thanks for the e-mail and phone messages), I began Lukey's syringe feeding yesterday with A/D and Gatorade. He did very well with both. I'm on my way out to feed him again this morning and then taking him back to the vet to put him on intravenous fluids and vitamin C to help with whatever infection may be going on, if any. Still not sure about what is causing the fever because his blood work was normal last Thursday except for a borderline low lymphocyte count and mild anemia (don't recall the numbers right now). The fluids seem to help the fever a lot, though, so it may in fact be from dehydration. We may go ahead and start him on antibiotics as well to be on the safe side, and he will be evaluated today as to any need for a transfusion, though I don't believe his anemia is that severe yet. One question: He appears to have some diarrhea, first noticed on Saturday. Do you have any thoughts about what might be causing the diarrhea or has Autumn experienced this? It was before his first LTCI shot, also given on Saturday. Thanks again for the wonderful and promising news. I have been so depressed all weekend and this certainly gives me hope for my Lukey. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] (no subject)
Wow, Jenny, that's a WONDERFUL report and very encouraging to me and many others, I'm sure. At your suggestion (and thanks for the e-mail and phone messages), I began Lukey's syringe feeding yesterday with A/D and Gatorade. He did very well with both. I'm on my way out to feed him again this morning and then taking him back to the vet to put him on intravenous fluids and vitamin C to help with whatever infection may be going on, if any. Still not sure about what is causing the fever because his blood work was normal last Thursday except for a borderline low lymphocyte count and mild anemia (don't recall the numbers right now). The fluids seem to help the fever a lot, though, so it may in fact be from dehydration. We may go ahead and start him on antibiotics as well to be on the safe side, and he will be evaluated today as to any need for a transfusion, though I don't believe his anemia is that severe yet. One question: He appears to have some diarrhea, first noticed on Saturday. Do you have any thoughts about what might be causing the diarrhea or has Autumn experienced this? It was before his first LTCI shot, also given on Saturday. Thanks again for the wonderful and promising news. I have been so depressed all weekend and this certainly gives me hope for my Lukey. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] (no subject)
Wow, Jenny, that's a WONDERFUL report and very encouraging to me and many others, I'm sure. At your suggestion (and thanks for the e-mail and phone messages), I began Lukey's syringe feeding yesterday with A/D and Gatorade. He did very well with both. I'm on my way out to feed him again this morning and then taking him back to the vet to put him on intravenous fluids and vitamin C to help with whatever infection may be going on, if any. Still not sure about what is causing the fever because his blood work was normal last Thursday except for a borderline low lymphocyte count and mild anemia (don't recall the numbers right now). The fluids seem to help the fever a lot, though, so it may in fact be from dehydration. We may go ahead and start him on antibiotics as well to be on the safe side, and he will be evaluated today as to any need for a transfusion, though I don't believe his anemia is that severe yet. One question: He appears to have some diarrhea, first noticed on Saturday. Do you have any thoughts about what might be causing the diarrhea or has Autumn experienced this? It was before his first LTCI shot, also given on Saturday. Thanks again for the wonderful and promising news. I have been so depressed all weekend and this certainly gives me hope for my Lukey. Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him again for lymphocyte and RBC count. Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Sally I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with Jenny/ Autumn in the subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary time until your vet opens on Tuesday. I hope you can get help for him. Jaane On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)
Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him again for lymphocyte and RBC count. Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Sally I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with Jenny/ Autumn in the subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary time until your vet opens on Tuesday. I hope you can get help for him. Jaane On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally
Thanks so much for the encouragement and information, Laurie. This is a heartbreaking situation for us, as all of you know too well. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally Sally, that is so encouraging that he WANTS the food. That is great. Please check out the link suggested in earlier emails today with subject assisted feeding. It is important for Lukey to get the same amount of food via syringe that he ate before getting sick. You want to avoid liver failure. Please keep us posted. Lukey is lucky to have you. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him again for lymphocyte and RBC count. Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Sally I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with Jenny/ Autumn in the subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary time until your vet opens on Tuesday. I hope you can get help for him. Jaane On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally
Thanks so much for the encouragement and information, Laurie. This is a heartbreaking situation for us, as all of you know too well. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) for Sally Sally, that is so encouraging that he WANTS the food. That is great. Please check out the link suggested in earlier emails today with subject assisted feeding. It is important for Lukey to get the same amount of food via syringe that he ate before getting sick. You want to avoid liver failure. Please keep us posted. Lukey is lucky to have you. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of S. Jewell Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Thank you very much, Jane. I appreciate your concern and suggestions. I heard from Jenny via e-mail after she called and I wasn't home. At her suggestion, I bought some A/D and Gatorade and have begun to force feed Lukey. He took right to the food like he was grateful to have it and I will be giving him some Gatorade later tonight and then feeding again even later. I got about 1/3 of a can of A/D down him via syringe, which I thought was pretty good for a first effort. He is getting thinner and weaker while we wait on the shot to kick in but on Saturday he was not yet severely anemic, so hopefully I have some time. We'll know tomorrow when I take him back to the vet, which he will certainly hate. At least she can rehydrate him and maybe check him again for lymphocyte and RBC count. Anyway, God bless you and all of the others who post here in an effort to help others. I appreciate it very much. Sally Jewell -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk- boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject) Sally I hope Jenny sees this post. You might send another post with Jenny/ Autumn in the subject. I also hope that you can get your boy through this scary time until your vet opens on Tuesday. I hope you can get help for him. Jaane On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:37 PM, S. Jewell wrote: Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.o rg ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] (no subject)
Hi, All, I'm new to this and not exactly sure how it works, but I desperately need to speak personally to Jenny, who recently posted about her FeLV kitty Autumn and her improvement with the transfusion, Ambrotose and the Imulan injection (I presume that's what it was). I am treating one of my FeLV boys right now who is not eating and has been hospitalized for a few days with low lymphocyte count and mild anemia. He came home yesterday after being on fluids for his fever for several days at the vet. He got his first LTCI injection yesterday before he came home and he's a bit feverish again and not eating. My vet doesn't open again until Tuesday and I am worried. I am preparing to buy the Acemannan, which I presume is a similar product to Ambrotose, but I would really love to speak with Jenny about the transfusion process and what Autumn's state was before the transfusion and how she responded. I apologize if this is the wrong way to go about this but again, this is all new to me. My Lukey boy is my first FeLV cat to become sick and it came up so suddenly that it has thrown us for a loop. We are beyond heart sick and desperate to help me in any additional ways such as transfusion, etc. Thanks. Sally Jewell 502-363-1002 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
