RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Mountain
Not saying it's wrong at all, but just if you think it may be a newbie
type question then post it to the appropriate list. Otherwise what's the
point in having 2 lists?

My point really was that this list used to be more about posting
techniques, discoveries, neat tricks - or complex questions, bug
workarounds, undocumented features. We seem to have lost that and moved
on to a bunch of fairly easy to answer (just by googling or checking the
archive, or even god forbid the help docs/live docs) questions. Yes we
can filter them out, but I think they've devalued the core principles
behind this list - hence we seem to have lost key people. Then we end up
in a viscious circle...

M

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 FWIW: I've been working with Flash for over 6 years, but 
 there are still a lot of things I haven't done. I've built 
 some complex apps, but they are business apps (functionality 
 revolves around the basic CRUD) intended to be displayed in 
 the browser on desktop PCs. So, for example, I've never built 
 an app for the pocket PC, I've never built a game, and I've 
 done very little with video. If I were to get a new 
 assignment in one of these areas, then I might post a 
 question that seems like a newbie question to some other 
 people on the list. Is it wrong to post such questions? As 
 ryanm pointed out, all you need to do is delete the messages 
 that don't interest you.
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[Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

2006-06-13 Thread Andreas Rønning
Whenever i try to use mdm.* methods in AS2 classes they refuse to work, 
mostly because mdm is an undeclared property. Declaring it with var 
mdm:Object doesn't do much either. Super frustrating, anyone got a 
workaround for this?


I work with FlashDevelop+mtasc

- Andreas SJ
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Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

2006-06-13 Thread Cedric Muller

var mdm:Object = _global.mdm;

what a shitty way to code, but, hey this is Zinc :))

Cedric

Whenever i try to use mdm.* methods in AS2 classes they refuse to  
work, mostly because mdm is an undeclared property. Declaring it  
with var mdm:Object doesn't do much either. Super frustrating,  
anyone got a workaround for this?


I work with FlashDevelop+mtasc

- Andreas SJ


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Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

2006-06-13 Thread Cedric Muller
sorry, don't reference, just target _global.mdm (dumber than what we  
deserve)

_global.mdm.System.exec('C:/runacrobat.exe');

Cedric

Whenever i try to use mdm.* methods in AS2 classes they refuse to  
work, mostly because mdm is an undeclared property. Declaring it  
with var mdm:Object doesn't do much either. Super frustrating,  
anyone got a workaround for this?


I work with FlashDevelop+mtasc

- Andreas SJ


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RE: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Maybe you should start looking into the new SWHX.  Looks damn exciting
and should technically provide more capabilities than Zinc with less
effort.  At least when it matures.

Lee



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var mdm:Object = _global.mdm;

what a shitty way to code, but, hey this is Zinc :))

Cedric

 Whenever i try to use mdm.* methods in AS2 classes they refuse to  
 work, mostly because mdm is an undeclared property. Declaring it  
 with var mdm:Object doesn't do much either. Super frustrating,  
 anyone got a workaround for this?

 I work with FlashDevelop+mtasc

 - Andreas SJ

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Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

2006-06-13 Thread Andreas Rønning
thanks guys, adding _global did it.. Weird that i can't find a mention 
of it in the docs but hey :) i guess thats what flashcoders is for. 
Working fine now.


- A

Lee McColl-Sylvester wrote:

Maybe you should start looking into the new SWHX.  Looks damn exciting
and should technically provide more capabilities than Zinc with less
effort.  At least when it matures.

Lee



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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

var mdm:Object = _global.mdm;

what a shitty way to code, but, hey this is Zinc :))

Cedric


Whenever i try to use mdm.* methods in AS2 classes they refuse to  
work, mostly because mdm is an undeclared property. Declaring it  
with var mdm:Object doesn't do much either. Super frustrating,  
anyone got a workaround for this?


I work with FlashDevelop+mtasc

- Andreas SJ



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Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

2006-06-13 Thread Arul

Dear Andreas,

Can you try _global.mdm.* instead?

Regards,
Arul


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Subject: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2


Whenever i try to use mdm.* methods in AS2 classes they refuse to work, 
mostly because mdm is an undeclared property. Declaring it with var 
mdm:Object doesn't do much either. Super frustrating, anyone got a 
workaround for this?


I work with FlashDevelop+mtasc

- Andreas SJ
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Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

2006-06-13 Thread Cedric Muller

I know
fatally, I am looking for working solutions, not 2000 functionalities  
that fail (like Zinc)

SWHX will be the only option in a few months, ... when it **matures**
;)
cedric


Maybe you should start looking into the new SWHX.  Looks damn exciting
and should technically provide more capabilities than Zinc with less
effort.  At least when it matures.

Lee



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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

var mdm:Object = _global.mdm;

what a shitty way to code, but, hey this is Zinc :))

Cedric


Whenever i try to use mdm.* methods in AS2 classes they refuse to
work, mostly because mdm is an undeclared property. Declaring it
with var mdm:Object doesn't do much either. Super frustrating,
anyone got a workaround for this?

I work with FlashDevelop+mtasc

- Andreas SJ


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RE: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Personally, I've been awaiting a thin layer for this kind of
interaction for a long long time.  Not only will SWHX have the advantage
that it's easy to extend and program, but also it will support the *nix
variety of OS's (which I'm sure Zinc doesn't) and will be totally free.
How cool is that?

Another thought I love is that, seeing as the garbage collector used by
Neko is fully supported on mobile platforms and that Neko is built using
the basic C libraries, a Neko port to the Pocket PC and Windows CE
devices is also possible...  That should put Zinc for PPC to rest, too.
;-)

Hooray for open source :)

Lee






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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

I know
fatally, I am looking for working solutions, not 2000 functionalities  
that fail (like Zinc)
SWHX will be the only option in a few months, ... when it **matures**
;)
cedric

 Maybe you should start looking into the new SWHX.  Looks damn exciting
 and should technically provide more capabilities than Zinc with less
 effort.  At least when it matures.

 Lee



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 Muller
 Sent: 13 June 2006 11:27
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 Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] zinc issues with AS2

 var mdm:Object = _global.mdm;

 what a shitty way to code, but, hey this is Zinc :))

 Cedric

 Whenever i try to use mdm.* methods in AS2 classes they refuse to
 work, mostly because mdm is an undeclared property. Declaring it
 with var mdm:Object doesn't do much either. Super frustrating,
 anyone got a workaround for this?

 I work with FlashDevelop+mtasc

 - Andreas SJ

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[Flashcoders] mtasc and delegate

2006-06-13 Thread Andreas Rønning
Delegate.as line 27: characters 3-11 : type error Local variable 
redefinition : func


Why is mtasc giving me hate? It's not like i wrote Delegate :P

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RE: [Flashcoders] mtasc and delegate

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
I've found this before... Macr, not being good at general programming syntax 
rules, have used the same variable name inside and outside an internal function 
definition.  It kinda looks like this:

Function somefunc()
{
Newfunc = function()
{
Var func;
...
}

Var func;
...
}

Although Flash would compile this as okay because the variables have different 
scopes, MTASC see them as both belonging to somefunc, so see the variable func 
as being declared twice.

If you navigate the file, you should be able to rename one of the vars

Lee




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Subject: [Flashcoders] mtasc and delegate 

Delegate.as line 27: characters 3-11 : type error Local variable 
redefinition : func

Why is mtasc giving me hate? It's not like i wrote Delegate :P

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Re: [Flashcoders] mtasc and delegate

2006-06-13 Thread Andreas Rønning

Thanks Lee.. I can't believe i had to alter Delegate O_o

- Andreas

Lee McColl-Sylvester wrote:

I've found this before... Macr, not being good at general programming syntax 
rules, have used the same variable name inside and outside an internal function 
definition.  It kinda looks like this:

Function somefunc()
{
Newfunc = function()
{
Var func;
...
}

Var func;
...
}

Although Flash would compile this as okay because the variables have different 
scopes, MTASC see them as both belonging to somefunc, so see the variable func 
as being declared twice.

If you navigate the file, you should be able to rename one of the vars

Lee




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Subject: [Flashcoders] mtasc and delegate 

Delegate.as line 27: characters 3-11 : type error Local variable 
redefinition : func


Why is mtasc giving me hate? It's not like i wrote Delegate :P

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RE: [Flashcoders] mtasc and delegate

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
:) That's no problem.  I actually feel much of the event managment code 
provided by Macr is fairly lacking.  The Arp framework helps somewhat to fix 
this and the ArpX extention by Grant Davies goes one better with some nice 
system events and what not, but you'd think after all this time supporting AS2, 
Macr should have got their act together and provided this level of API 
themselves.

Anyway, you'll probably find a couple of other issues with the MX classes when 
compiling with MTASC, though I forget which ones I've altered in the past.  I'm 
sure you'll have no problems working out the necessary modifications though.  
Actually, I'm pretty sure there's a patch for the MX AS2 classes on 
osflash.org.  Maybe you should look their and apply it to your existing classes?

Regards and happy coding,
Lee





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Sent: 13 June 2006 13:30
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] mtasc and delegate

Thanks Lee.. I can't believe i had to alter Delegate O_o

- Andreas

Lee McColl-Sylvester wrote:
 I've found this before... Macr, not being good at general programming syntax 
 rules, have used the same variable name inside and outside an internal 
 function definition.  It kinda looks like this:
 
 Function somefunc()
 {
   Newfunc = function()
   {
   Var func;
   ...
   }
 
   Var func;
   ...
 }
 
 Although Flash would compile this as okay because the variables have 
 different scopes, MTASC see them as both belonging to somefunc, so see the 
 variable func as being declared twice.
 
 If you navigate the file, you should be able to rename one of the vars
 
 Lee
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: 13 June 2006 13:19
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 Subject: [Flashcoders] mtasc and delegate 
 
 Delegate.as line 27: characters 3-11 : type error Local variable 
 redefinition : func
 
 Why is mtasc giving me hate? It's not like i wrote Delegate :P
 
 - Andreas SJ
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flashants Ice Player/Projector

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
I take it nobody uses this tool because of the response I got.  It
appears that Javascript calls within the Ice player (I would say it's
more of an ActiveX wrapper than a player) do not work with the Flash 8
player, but they do work outside of the Ice player in the Flash 8
player.  If anyone knows about this, please let me know. 

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
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[Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Does anyone know of any third party tools that will allow you from a web
site, to have a transparent window - a flash file which floats - over
the browser AND outside the browser window other than the Flashants Ice
player?  I'm not talking about wmode either, I'm talking about floating
Flash outside the browser window while running on the web.

Reason I ask for other tools is the Flashants Ice player doesn't seem to
be able to allow the Flash files to make Javascript calls (like to close
the window) with the Flash 8 player and I'm looking for another option.
In my tests it fails, but shows it works outside the Ice player.  Thanks

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd partytools?

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Mountain
Just out of interest could you use localconnection to communicate with
another swf to do the javascript comms?

M 

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 Sent: 13 June 2006 13:42
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not 
 wmode) 3rd partytools?
 
 Does anyone know of any third party tools that will allow you 
 from a web site, to have a transparent window - a flash file 
 which floats - over the browser AND outside the browser 
 window other than the Flashants Ice player?  I'm not talking 
 about wmode either, I'm talking about floating Flash outside 
 the browser window while running on the web.
 
 Reason I ask for other tools is the Flashants Ice player 
 doesn't seem to be able to allow the Flash files to make 
 Javascript calls (like to close the window) with the Flash 8 
 player and I'm looking for another option.
 In my tests it fails, but shows it works outside the Ice 
 player.  Thanks
 
 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
 Learning Technology Solutions
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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[Flashcoders] another mtasc question

2006-06-13 Thread Andreas Rønning

I'm just full of questions today :)

Jason Nussbaum's AS2 Base64 class makes use of the symbol \+, 
something mtasc protests. Why? :)


- A
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread hank williams

Honestly, I think most of the interesting stuff happens in flexcoders,
the as3 list, the open source lists for specific projects.

This *is* the newbie list now... by default.

Hank

On 6/13/06, Mike Mountain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Not saying it's wrong at all, but just if you think it may be a newbie
type question then post it to the appropriate list. Otherwise what's the
point in having 2 lists?

My point really was that this list used to be more about posting
techniques, discoveries, neat tricks - or complex questions, bug
workarounds, undocumented features. We seem to have lost that and moved
on to a bunch of fairly easy to answer (just by googling or checking the
archive, or even god forbid the help docs/live docs) questions. Yes we
can filter them out, but I think they've devalued the core principles
behind this list - hence we seem to have lost key people. Then we end up
in a viscious circle...

M

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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

 FWIW: I've been working with Flash for over 6 years, but
 there are still a lot of things I haven't done. I've built
 some complex apps, but they are business apps (functionality
 revolves around the basic CRUD) intended to be displayed in
 the browser on desktop PCs. So, for example, I've never built
 an app for the pocket PC, I've never built a game, and I've
 done very little with video. If I were to get a new
 assignment in one of these areas, then I might post a
 question that seems like a newbie question to some other
 people on the list. Is it wrong to post such questions? As
 ryanm pointed out, all you need to do is delete the messages
 that don't interest you.
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RE: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
If I'm not mistaken, \+ is an old AS1 operator, though for the life of me I 
forget what it does.  I used to use that back in the days of Flash 4/5.  I'm 
sure theres another old goat out there who will remember what it does.  Either 
that, or a quick search on the internet will tell you, but all the same, MTASC 
compiles AS2, not AS1.

Lee



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Sent: 13 June 2006 13:54
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Subject: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

I'm just full of questions today :)

Jason Nussbaum's AS2 Base64 class makes use of the symbol \+, 
something mtasc protests. Why? :)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Weyert de Boer

Hi Merrill,

I am not sure fi you are able to use LocalConnection or 
ExternalInterface without  beining the same application. I mean, do you 
know if you can communicatie bi-directionally with multiple Flash 
ActiveX wrappers? I.e. browser  win32 application? I would think this 
won't be possible, not sure of course! You also have the problem you 
might not be able to trigger the popup from within your website/webpage.


Maybe you can make some sort of notification application which can 
receive notify messages from you server or website, and then show it. 
Something like that should be possible, but most big companies (like the 
one where you work for) don't opening ports on client ports. ErnstYoung 
and Randstad doesn't


Yours,
Weyert de Boer
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RE: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Suppy me the whole line... It might jog my memory.

Lee




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Sent: 13 June 2006 13:54
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Subject: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

I'm just full of questions today :)

Jason Nussbaum's AS2 Base64 class makes use of the symbol \+, 
something mtasc protests. Why? :)

- A
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[Flashcoders] Flash Physics Engine

2006-06-13 Thread Oliver Lecher
Hi,

i am looking for a free flash physics engine.

MFG

Oliver




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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd partytools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Maybe.  I need to close the Flash window that is playing within the Ice
player, so I'm not sure how that would work.  - call the other .swf and
tell it to close the original  window?  I haven't used Localconnection -
but am reading up on it right now.  Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give
it a shot. 

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:49 AM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)
3rd
partytools?

Just out of interest could you use localconnection to communicate with
another swf to do the javascript comms?

M

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 Of Merrill, Jason
 Sent: 13 June 2006 13:42
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
 wmode) 3rd partytools?

 Does anyone know of any third party tools that will allow you
 from a web site, to have a transparent window - a flash file
 which floats - over the browser AND outside the browser
 window other than the Flashants Ice player?  I'm not talking
 about wmode either, I'm talking about floating Flash outside
 the browser window while running on the web.

 Reason I ask for other tools is the Flashants Ice player
 doesn't seem to be able to allow the Flash files to make
 Javascript calls (like to close the window) with the Flash 8
 player and I'm looking for another option.
 In my tests it fails, but shows it works outside the Ice
 player.  Thanks

 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
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RE: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Hey Andreas,

http://ostermiller.org/Base64.as has a port of the base64 class for AS2

Lee



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Subject: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

I'm just full of questions today :)

Jason Nussbaum's AS2 Base64 class makes use of the symbol \+, 
something mtasc protests. Why? :)

- A
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Yeah, I am wondering if Localconnection won't work because of the same
reasons the Javascript won't work with Flash 8 running in the Ice
ActiveX player.  

Are there no other tools that can do this?  I know Zinc can make it a
custom shaped window, but only as an .exe or screensaver - not running
as a wrapper in a browser.  

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)
3rd
party tools?

Hi Merrill,

I am not sure fi you are able to use LocalConnection or
ExternalInterface without  beining the same application. I mean, do
you
know if you can communicatie bi-directionally with multiple Flash
ActiveX wrappers? I.e. browser  win32 application? I would think
this
won't be possible, not sure of course! You also have the problem you
might not be able to trigger the popup from within your
website/webpage.

Maybe you can make some sort of notification application which can
receive notify messages from you server or website, and then show it.
Something like that should be possible, but most big companies (like
the
one where you work for) don't opening ports on client ports.
ErnstYoung
and Randstad doesn't

Yours,
Weyert de Boer
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
I must admit, I have to agree.  I code full time in .NET, ActionScript and god 
knows how many other languages, yet I just found myself looking up how to 
initialise a string array in .NET.  How newbie is that?  Fact is, if I asked 
that question on a list, I wouldn't be a newb for asking the question, I'd just 
be what I am... mentally cluttered.  And I don't know a single developer that 
isn't ;-)

Lee



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Sent: 13 June 2006 14:10
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

I think this whole argument is solid ground bullshit.
The definition of what you find interesting does not have a damn thing 
to do with what is intermediate-to-advanced AS. AS3 work is irellevant 
on a professional level, and Flex != Flash Actionscript. What you're 
saying is you're complaining about the lack of FUN stuff on this list.

Let me tell you a little something about the fun stuff on this list. For 
those of use that spend every day of the week doing things that aren't 
fun, and aren't necessarily cutting edge, being swamped in dudes doing 
shit that's out of your reach NOT because they are necessarily smarter 
than you, but because they somehow find the *TIME* to do fun stuff, it 
can be bordeline disruptive. I totally dig the fun stuff, but to say the 
lack of it is what brings this list down to newbie level is arrogant 
and shortsighted.

Elitist bs can stay in the flexcoders and as3 lists kthanks. If a 
question is beneath you you got more problems than newbies. Nobody 
demands that you answer, so whee, get off the list then.
This thread is bullshit of awesome intensity.

- A
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Physics Engine

2006-06-13 Thread iestyn lloyd

On 6/13/06, Oliver Lecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

i am looking for a free flash physics engine.




Something like this?

http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/tutorials/diagrams/tutB_demo04.html
http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/tutorials.html
scroll down for source
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Physics Engine

2006-06-13 Thread franto

http://www.osflash.org/flade

On 6/13/06, iestyn lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 6/13/06, Oliver Lecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 i am looking for a free flash physics engine.



Something like this?

http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/tutorials/diagrams/tutB_demo04.html
http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/tutorials.html
scroll down for source
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[Flashcoders] timer to advance

2006-06-13 Thread David Brunswick
Hello List, I am trying to accomplish a timer that will advance to a frame
once a set time has been reached. Of course it doesn't work any ideas  Here
is the code

onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
if (_root.delay) {
if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) == _root.lastTime+1) {
_root.delay = false;
}
} else if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) == _root.lastTime+_root.wait)
{
_root.lastTime = Math.floor(getTimer()/1000);
_root.delay = true;
// custom actions begin
_root.count = _root.count+1;
if (_root.count = 20) {
gotoAndStop(2);
}

}
}

David Brunswick
Multimedia Developer/OLP Administrator
FedEx Customer Information Services
Customer Service Organizational Learning
901-434-6605

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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Yeah, it can be done with the Flashants Ice player -
http://www.flashants.com/root/index.shtml

It's an ActiveX control you have to install.  

 I don't think I'd want
all the headache with regards to end users etc.

Agreed.  It was not my decision to use it, that was before I got here.
All worked well with it until the Flash 8 security model changed and it
wasn't compatible with it.  I'm contacting the vendor, but we will
probably trash this and end up doing it a different way.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee McColl-Sylvester
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:37 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
party tools?

Tbh, I didn't know it could even be done in a browser.  I know you can
do it in an exe, or in a layer with the wmode set, but as a floating
browser controlled window is something I've not ever even heard
mention
of or would have thought possible without some browser plugin or
client
side activex wizardry, and if it's the latter, I don't think I'd want
all the headache with regards to end users etc.

Lee



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Merrill,
Jason
Sent: 13 June 2006 14:07
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
party tools?

Yeah, I am wondering if Localconnection won't work because of the same
reasons the Javascript won't work with Flash 8 running in the Ice
ActiveX player.

Are there no other tools that can do this?  I know Zinc can make it a
custom shaped window, but only as an .exe or screensaver - not running
as a wrapper in a browser.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions







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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:56 AM
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wmode)
3rd
party tools?

Hi Merrill,

I am not sure fi you are able to use LocalConnection or
ExternalInterface without  beining the same application. I mean, do
you
know if you can communicatie bi-directionally with multiple Flash
ActiveX wrappers? I.e. browser  win32 application? I would think
this
won't be possible, not sure of course! You also have the problem you
might not be able to trigger the popup from within your
website/webpage.

Maybe you can make some sort of notification application which can
receive notify messages from you server or website, and then show
it.
Something like that should be possible, but most big companies (like
the
one where you work for) don't opening ports on client ports.
ErnstYoung
and Randstad doesn't

Yours,
Weyert de Boer
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[Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

2006-06-13 Thread joakim
Are there any known limitations when using the ExternalInterface to send
large amounts of data.

I set up this example and I’m not liking the result.

1. Code in flash
import flash.external.ExternalInterface;
ExternalInterface.call(receiveData,massiveString);


2. Code on htmlpage
function receiveData(args) {

alert(result:  + args.colorData.length);
return args.colorData.length;

}

Firefox and Internet Explorer obviously treats this differently. While
Firefox communicates with flash almost instantly and sends the string with
minimal delay Internet Explorer times out when the string gets to big.

So my question is
How come the two browsers handles this differently and how could i work
around it so that i can send that massive string.

Thanks,

joakim

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RE: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
This is probably down to the JavaScript engine used.  I know numerous
bugs (with the Math engine being the worse) with the IE browser that
just dissappear with the FireFox browser.

Lee




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Subject: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

Are there any known limitations when using the ExternalInterface to send
large amounts of data.

I set up this example and I'm not liking the result.

1. Code in flash
import flash.external.ExternalInterface;
ExternalInterface.call(receiveData,massiveString);


2. Code on htmlpage
function receiveData(args) {

alert(result:  + args.colorData.length);
return args.colorData.length;

}

Firefox and Internet Explorer obviously treats this differently. While
Firefox communicates with flash almost instantly and sends the string
with
minimal delay Internet Explorer times out when the string gets to big.

So my question is
How come the two browsers handles this differently and how could i work
around it so that i can send that massive string.

Thanks,

joakim

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RE: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
As an actual helpful reply, you could always try cutting the string down
and then send the string in separate vars.  Actually, have you tried
sending the thing cut up into an Array?  You could always do a join() on
the other side.

Lee



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Subject: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

Are there any known limitations when using the ExternalInterface to send
large amounts of data.

I set up this example and I'm not liking the result.

1. Code in flash
import flash.external.ExternalInterface;
ExternalInterface.call(receiveData,massiveString);


2. Code on htmlpage
function receiveData(args) {

alert(result:  + args.colorData.length);
return args.colorData.length;

}

Firefox and Internet Explorer obviously treats this differently. While
Firefox communicates with flash almost instantly and sends the string
with
minimal delay Internet Explorer times out when the string gets to big.

So my question is
How come the two browsers handles this differently and how could i work
around it so that i can send that massive string.

Thanks,

joakim

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Britton

Any way you look at it, we're building a searchable repository of both
newb and advanced tips.  Flash programmers aren't Nazis, marching
together as some kind of unified front against all newbies.  A
community has elements from all skill levels, and if a newbie has a
coding question for the group, I don't see why it shouldn't be asked.
If the newbie hasn't searched for the answer before posting, he/she
should receive a mild electric shock and we can be done with it.

Mike
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RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
You could just use setInterval instead of getTimer:

count = 0;

function GoNext(){
count++;
if(count = 10){
clearInterval(intID)
nextframe();
count = 0;
}
}

intID = setInterval(GoNext, 1000);

Jason Merrill
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Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:45 AM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

Hello List, I am trying to accomplish a timer that will advance to a
frame
once a set time has been reached. Of course it doesn't work any ideas
Here
is the code

onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
  if (_root.delay) {
  if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) == _root.lastTime+1) {
  _root.delay = false;
  }
  } else if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) ==
_root.lastTime+_root.wait)
{
  _root.lastTime = Math.floor(getTimer()/1000);
  _root.delay = true;
  // custom actions begin
  _root.count = _root.count+1;
  if (_root.count = 20) {
  gotoAndStop(2);
  }

  }
}

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RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

2006-06-13 Thread Wouter Steidl
Could this be what you need:

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhel
p.htm?context=LiveDocs_Partsfile=1717.html

The first comment by Francis at the bottom...

Wouter 

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Brunswick
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:45 PM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

Hello List, I am trying to accomplish a timer that will advance to a frame
once a set time has been reached. Of course it doesn't work any ideas  Here
is the code

onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
if (_root.delay) {
if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) == _root.lastTime+1) {
_root.delay = false;
}
} else if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) == _root.lastTime+_root.wait)
{
_root.lastTime = Math.floor(getTimer()/1000);
_root.delay = true;
// custom actions begin
_root.count = _root.count+1;
if (_root.count = 20) {
gotoAndStop(2);
}

}
}

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Giles Taylor
RTFM:
http://www.osflash.org/flashcoders/etiquette
 
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RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Actually, just this would work too - the other post was from something
else:

function GoNext(){
clearInterval(intID)
nextframe();
}

intID = setInterval(GoNext, 1);

Will move after 10 seconds.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:02 AM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

You could just use setInterval instead of getTimer:

count = 0;

function GoNext(){
  count++;
  if(count = 10){
  clearInterval(intID)
  nextframe();
  count = 0;
  }
}

intID = setInterval(GoNext, 1000);

Jason Merrill
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Learning Technology Solutions







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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brunswick
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:45 AM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

Hello List, I am trying to accomplish a timer that will advance to a
frame
once a set time has been reached. Of course it doesn't work any
ideas
Here
is the code

onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
if (_root.delay) {
if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) == _root.lastTime+1) {
_root.delay = false;
}
} else if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) ==
_root.lastTime+_root.wait)
{
_root.lastTime = Math.floor(getTimer()/1000);
_root.delay = true;
// custom actions begin
_root.count = _root.count+1;
if (_root.count = 20) {
gotoAndStop(2);
}

}
}

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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Weyert de Boer
Don't you want something similar to the Chromeless windows of Internet 
Explorer? Google for it, it's a window which out the caption etc.

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RE: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

2006-06-13 Thread joakim
Yeah sending it in chunks is an option but that requires more from the
backend.

A friend of mine just explained that it probably had to do with Firefox
being able to directly communicate with the plugin which would make it
lightningfast...and IE doesnt do this which makes it slower.

// joakim


 As an actual helpful reply, you could always try cutting the string down
 and then send the string in separate vars.  Actually, have you tried
 sending the thing cut up into an Array?  You could always do a join() on
 the other side.

 Lee



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 Subject: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

 Are there any known limitations when using the ExternalInterface to send
 large amounts of data.

 I set up this example and I'm not liking the result.

 1. Code in flash
 import flash.external.ExternalInterface;
 ExternalInterface.call(receiveData,massiveString);


 2. Code on htmlpage
 function receiveData(args) {

   alert(result:  + args.colorData.length);
   return args.colorData.length;

 }

 Firefox and Internet Explorer obviously treats this differently. While
 Firefox communicates with flash almost instantly and sends the string
 with
 minimal delay Internet Explorer times out when the string gets to big.

 So my question is
 How come the two browsers handles this differently and how could i work
 around it so that i can send that massive string.

 Thanks,

 joakim

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[Flashcoders] video object

2006-06-13 Thread Éric Thibault

Hello all!

Is there a way to know that a seek command has reach the desired 
position in the stream when publishing for Flash 7 AS2?


The only response I get from the stream is : NetStream.Buffer.Full.  The 
NetStream.Seek.Notify does not work local or online?!?!  I can make it 
work if I publish for player 8.


I've used this code to debug but it's the same result :

netStream_ns.onStatus = function (infoObject) {
   //trace(NetStream.onStatus called: (+getTimer()+ ms));
  
   for (var prop in infoObject) {

   MonTexte = MonTexte + \t+prop+:\t+infoObject[prop];
   }
   texte.text = MonTexte;
}

I would like to display some infos/mc after a seek command.  In the doc 
it says it works for ActionScript 1.0; Flash Player 6...


A+

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RE: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Not really, just create an ArrayToString parser function :)

Lee



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Sent: 13 June 2006 15:11
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

Yeah sending it in chunks is an option but that requires more from the
backend.

A friend of mine just explained that it probably had to do with Firefox
being able to directly communicate with the plugin which would make it
lightningfast...and IE doesnt do this which makes it slower.

// joakim


 As an actual helpful reply, you could always try cutting the string
down
 and then send the string in separate vars.  Actually, have you tried
 sending the thing cut up into an Array?  You could always do a join()
on
 the other side.

 Lee



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 June 2006 14:50
 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
 Subject: [Flashcoders] externalInterface Issue

 Are there any known limitations when using the ExternalInterface to
send
 large amounts of data.

 I set up this example and I'm not liking the result.

 1. Code in flash
 import flash.external.ExternalInterface;
 ExternalInterface.call(receiveData,massiveString);


 2. Code on htmlpage
 function receiveData(args) {

   alert(result:  + args.colorData.length);
   return args.colorData.length;

 }

 Firefox and Internet Explorer obviously treats this differently. While
 Firefox communicates with flash almost instantly and sends the string
 with
 minimal delay Internet Explorer times out when the string gets to big.

 So my question is
 How come the two browsers handles this differently and how could i
work
 around it so that i can send that massive string.

 Thanks,

 joakim

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash Physics Engine

2006-06-13 Thread janosch

http://www.cove.org/flade/

Janosch

Oliver Lecher schrieb:


Hi,

i am looking for a free flash physics engine.

MFG

Oliver




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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread hank williams

I  dont mean to offend anyone, but this *is* the newbie list - at
least in part. There is nothing wrong with that. I have never been to
the real newbie list, and would never make it there. Thats probably
true for most of the people who might answer a question (though I
honestly havent done much of that lately due primarily to workload).

But if you are looking for cutting edge stuff that many people
havent thought about before, this is probably no longer the place for
that. Does that make this list a bad place? No. Does it make the
people on it stupid? Hardly. But does it mean that over time you may
look other places for certain types of more advanced or specific
insight? I think so. I think that shows the growth of the flash
platform and nothing more.

Hank

On 6/13/06, Andreas Rønning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think this whole argument is solid ground bullshit.
The definition of what you find interesting does not have a damn thing
to do with what is intermediate-to-advanced AS. AS3 work is irellevant
on a professional level, and Flex != Flash Actionscript. What you're
saying is you're complaining about the lack of FUN stuff on this list.

Let me tell you a little something about the fun stuff on this list. For
those of use that spend every day of the week doing things that aren't
fun, and aren't necessarily cutting edge, being swamped in dudes doing
shit that's out of your reach NOT because they are necessarily smarter




than you, but because they somehow find the *TIME* to do fun stuff, it
can be bordeline disruptive. I totally dig the fun stuff, but to say the
lack of it is what brings this list down to newbie level is arrogant
and shortsighted.

Elitist bs can stay in the flexcoders and as3 lists kthanks. If a
question is beneath you you got more problems than newbies. Nobody
demands that you answer, so whee, get off the list then.
This thread is bullshit of awesome intensity.

- A
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Don't you want something similar to the Chromeless windows of Internet
Explorer? Google for it, it's a window which out the caption etc.

No, that's not what I'm talking about.  I'm talking about a non-square
shaped flash file, transparent background, that can be dragged around
the browser and outside the browser - our customer wants an odd-shaped
application to sit off to the side outside the browser as a help tool
made in flash. An install for an additional player is OK, and the Ice
player allows this as a wrap around Active X for the Flash player, but
it has some incompatibilities with the Flash 8 player.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:09 AM
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wmode)3rd
party tools?

Don't you want something similar to the Chromeless windows of Internet
Explorer? Google for it, it's a window which out the caption etc.
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RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

2006-06-13 Thread David Brunswick
That worked perfect thanks

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Jason
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:07 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

Actually, just this would work too - the other post was from something
else:

function GoNext(){
clearInterval(intID)
nextframe();
}

intID = setInterval(GoNext, 1);

Will move after 10 seconds.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:02 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

You could just use setInterval instead of getTimer:

count = 0;

function GoNext(){
  count++;
  if(count = 10){
  clearInterval(intID)
  nextframe();
  count = 0;
  }
}

intID = setInterval(GoNext, 1000);

Jason Merrill
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Learning Technology Solutions







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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brunswick
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:45 AM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

Hello List, I am trying to accomplish a timer that will advance to a
frame
once a set time has been reached. Of course it doesn't work any
ideas
Here
is the code

onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
if (_root.delay) {
if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) == _root.lastTime+1) {
_root.delay = false;
}
} else if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) ==
_root.lastTime+_root.wait)
{
_root.lastTime = Math.floor(getTimer()/1000);
_root.delay = true;
// custom actions begin
_root.count = _root.count+1;
if (_root.count = 20) {
gotoAndStop(2);
}

}
}

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
I'm on both lists, and the newbie list is more advanced than you would think.  
Most of the questions there could easily be posted here.  There are newbie 
questions of course, but a majority of the subscribers are intermediate to 
advanced Actionscripters.

Jason Merrill
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:18 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

I  dont mean to offend anyone, but this *is* the newbie list - at
least in part. There is nothing wrong with that. I have never been to
the real newbie list, and would never make it there. Thats probably
true for most of the people who might answer a question (though I
honestly havent done much of that lately due primarily to workload).

But if you are looking for cutting edge stuff that many people
havent thought about before, this is probably no longer the place for
that. Does that make this list a bad place? No. Does it make the
people on it stupid? Hardly. But does it mean that over time you may
look other places for certain types of more advanced or specific
insight? I think so. I think that shows the growth of the flash
platform and nothing more.

Hank

On 6/13/06, Andreas Rønning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think this whole argument is solid ground bullshit.
 The definition of what you find interesting does not have a damn thing
 to do with what is intermediate-to-advanced AS. AS3 work is irellevant
 on a professional level, and Flex != Flash Actionscript. What you're
 saying is you're complaining about the lack of FUN stuff on this list.

 Let me tell you a little something about the fun stuff on this list. For
 those of use that spend every day of the week doing things that aren't
 fun, and aren't necessarily cutting edge, being swamped in dudes doing
 shit that's out of your reach NOT because they are necessarily smarter


 than you, but because they somehow find the *TIME* to do fun stuff, it
 can be bordeline disruptive. I totally dig the fun stuff, but to say the
 lack of it is what brings this list down to newbie level is arrogant
 and shortsighted.

 Elitist bs can stay in the flexcoders and as3 lists kthanks. If a
 question is beneath you you got more problems than newbies. Nobody
 demands that you answer, so whee, get off the list then.
 This thread is bullshit of awesome intensity.

 - A
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RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

2006-06-13 Thread Wouter Steidl
setTimeout is even easier to use tehn:

setTimeout(GoNext,1);

And it clears itself!

cool 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 4:28 PM
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That worked perfect thanks

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:07 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

Actually, just this would work too - the other post was from something
else:

function GoNext(){
clearInterval(intID)
nextframe();
}

intID = setInterval(GoNext, 1);

Will move after 10 seconds.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:02 AM
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

You could just use setInterval instead of getTimer:

count = 0;

function GoNext(){
  count++;
  if(count = 10){
  clearInterval(intID)
  nextframe();
  count = 0;
  }
}

intID = setInterval(GoNext, 1000);

Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions







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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brunswick
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:45 AM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: [Flashcoders] timer to advance

Hello List, I am trying to accomplish a timer that will advance to a
frame
once a set time has been reached. Of course it doesn't work any
ideas
Here
is the code

onClipEvent (enterFrame) {
if (_root.delay) {
if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) == _root.lastTime+1) {
_root.delay = false;
}
} else if (Math.floor(getTimer()/1000) ==
_root.lastTime+_root.wait)
{
_root.lastTime = Math.floor(getTimer()/1000);
_root.delay = true;
// custom actions begin
_root.count = _root.count+1;
if (_root.count = 20) {
gotoAndStop(2);
}

}
}

David Brunswick
Multimedia Developer/OLP Administrator FedEx Customer Information 
Services Customer Service Organizational Learning
901-434-6605

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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Weyert de Boer



No, that's not what I'm talking about.  I'm talking about a non-square
shaped flash file, transparent background, that can be dragged around

player allows this as a wrap around Active X for the Flash player, but
it has some incompatibilities with the Flash 8 player.
  
Aha, I understand you now! I won't know a good solution for that now, of 
course we can write a new browser plugin ;-) It's not that dificuilt to 
make, though. Only how to hook such thing up with the webbrowser...

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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Aha, I understand you now! I won't know a good solution for that now,
of
course we can write a new browser plugin ;-) It's not that dificuilt
to
make, though. Only how to hook such thing up with the webbrowser...

...yeah, and how to write one that works with the Flash 8 security
model, which I'm not sure would even be possible at this point.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Mountain
It would seem I've stirred up a nest of vipers! My point is why bother
with the two lists? If noone can decide what constitutes a newbie
question?

Id've thought if most people forget the basics (which happen to us all)
and you're not a code virgin then you wouldn't need to turn to a mailing
list to find the answers.

Forget I spoke.

M

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 Of Merrill, Jason
 Sent: 13 June 2006 15:40
 To: Flashcoders mailing list
 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading
 
 I'm on both lists, and the newbie list is more advanced than 
 you would think.  Most of the questions there could easily be 
 posted here.  There are newbie questions of course, but a 
 majority of the subscribers are intermediate to advanced 
 Actionscripters.
 
 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
 Learning Technology Solutions
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
I will say, the newbie list is friendlier than this list by about a
factor of 10.  :)   

Jason Merrill
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Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Mountain
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:59 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

It would seem I've stirred up a nest of vipers! My point is why bother
with the two lists? If noone can decide what constitutes a newbie
question?

Id've thought if most people forget the basics (which happen to us
all)
and you're not a code virgin then you wouldn't need to turn to a
mailing
list to find the answers.

Forget I spoke.

M

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 Of Merrill, Jason
 Sent: 13 June 2006 15:40
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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

 I'm on both lists, and the newbie list is more advanced than
 you would think.  Most of the questions there could easily be
 posted here.  There are newbie questions of course, but a
 majority of the subscribers are intermediate to advanced
 Actionscripters.

 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
 Learning Technology Solutions
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Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Weyert de Boer
Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I have 
time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up in 
Delphi (win32 onyl)

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Awww, Jason... In the spirit of making this list friendly, may I say I
love you all and I think you're all the best.  May you all have a great
day and not have too many bugs so you don't get slammed when asking
something stupid ;-)

Kindest, most warmest regards and lots of hugs,
Lee

PS, When do we get with the gift exchanging?




-Original Message-
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Jason
Sent: 13 June 2006 16:05
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

I will say, the newbie list is friendlier than this list by about a
factor of 10.  :)   

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Mountain
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:59 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

It would seem I've stirred up a nest of vipers! My point is why bother
with the two lists? If noone can decide what constitutes a newbie
question?

Id've thought if most people forget the basics (which happen to us
all)
and you're not a code virgin then you wouldn't need to turn to a
mailing
list to find the answers.

Forget I spoke.

M

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Merrill, Jason
 Sent: 13 June 2006 15:40
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 Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

 I'm on both lists, and the newbie list is more advanced than
 you would think.  Most of the questions there could easily be
 posted here.  There are newbie questions of course, but a
 majority of the subscribers are intermediate to advanced
 Actionscripters.

 Jason Merrill
 Bank of America
 Learning Technology Solutions
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RE: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

2006-06-13 Thread michael . bordner
hey Andreas,

this \+ seems like an error to me.  it should either be \\+ if he is 
trying to replace the text \+,  or just + if he is only trying to 
replace the +.   However, because he's replacing it with %2B, it seems 
like he is only trying to replace the + since 2B is the hex for the + sign 
character in url encoding.

you can verify this bug by doing:

str = ab+cd+ef;
str = str.split(\+).join(%2B);
trace( str );

i could be wrong, but i would guess that mtasc is complaining because 
there is no reason to escape the + character in a string, and hence \+ 
would be invalid since it isn't an expected escape sequence.


If you change the \+ in your .as file to just +, I think you will fix the 
bug in the Base64.as, and also make it so mtasc will compile it.

-Michael





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Hey Andreas,

http://ostermiller.org/Base64.as has a port of the base64 class for AS2

Lee



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Rønning
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Subject: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

I'm just full of questions today :)

Jason Nussbaum's AS2 Base64 class makes use of the symbol \+, 
something mtasc protests. Why? :)

- A
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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode) 3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Hey thanks though - appreciate it!

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
party tools?

Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I
have
time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up in
Delphi (win32 onyl)
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RE: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
Ahhh, so that's what the string was.  I also worked out what was triggering the 
flashback in my cluttered brain.  The backslash symbol used to reference the 
root of a movie or clip a la html uri's, though I still remember \+ as actually 
having a use.

Oh well.


Lee



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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

hey Andreas,

this \+ seems like an error to me.  it should either be \\+ if he is 
trying to replace the text \+,  or just + if he is only trying to 
replace the +.   However, because he's replacing it with %2B, it seems 
like he is only trying to replace the + since 2B is the hex for the + sign 
character in url encoding.

you can verify this bug by doing:

str = ab+cd+ef;
str = str.split(\+).join(%2B);
trace( str );

i could be wrong, but i would guess that mtasc is complaining because 
there is no reason to escape the + character in a string, and hence \+ 
would be invalid since it isn't an expected escape sequence.


If you change the \+ in your .as file to just +, I think you will fix the 
bug in the Base64.as, and also make it so mtasc will compile it.

-Michael





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Hey Andreas,

http://ostermiller.org/Base64.as has a port of the base64 class for AS2

Lee



-Original Message-
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Rønning
Sent: 13 June 2006 13:54
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: [Flashcoders] another mtasc question

I'm just full of questions today :)

Jason Nussbaum's AS2 Base64 class makes use of the symbol \+, 
something mtasc protests. Why? :)

- A
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[Flashcoders] Buyer beware mCOM

2006-06-13 Thread Sorensen, Shannon M - MWL
http://67.104.17.194/complaint/view/57077332/c/47x9hr


Consumer's Original Complaint :
Total:  $299.00 USD 
Item/Product Name:  mCOM 

Forum of upset customers:
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2005/09/mcom_glic_compo.html

The documentation and API spec for this product is so minimal that it
makes using these components impossible. 

I open two support tickets, Ticket id: 132  133, with no responses. I
called twice and was told I would receive a call back and never did. 

Consumer's Desired Resolution:
I believe Metaliq needs to make appropriate documentation for this
product and I personally want my money returned.

BBB Processing 
(Most recent activity listed first)
06/13/2006  OttOEMAIL   Forward Business Response to Consumer
06/12/2006  WEB BBB RECEIVE BUSINESS RESPONSE : From the
Master End User License Agreement, which all customers must agree to
before purchasing the mCOM product:
THE FEE FOR THE PRODUCT BY METALIQ IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
in addition,
Section 7, Paragraph (a)
METALIQ PROVIDES NO REMEDIES OR WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED,
FOR THE PRODUCT, AND THE PRODUCT IS PROVIDED AS IS.
from Section 8. EXCLUSIVE REMEDY:  
Provided that any non-compliance with the above warranty is reported in
writing to Metaliq no more than ninety (90) days following delivery to
you, Metaliq will use reasonable commercial efforts to supply you with a
replacement copy of the Software that substantially conforms to the
documentation, provide a replacement for defective media, or refund to
you your purchase price for the Product, at its option.
**Please note: 90 DAYS
Purchase date 9/2/2005
Case opened 5/31/2006
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash Physics Engine

2006-06-13 Thread phaedrus
I haven't used it yet, but http://www.cove.org/flade/ looks pretty cool.

MFG?

- phaedrus

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Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash Physics Engine

Hi,

i am looking for a free flash physics engine.

MFG

Oliver


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RE: [Flashcoders] Buyer beware mCOM

2006-06-13 Thread Lee McColl-Sylvester
The BJC Bit components were always great that I remember.  I tend to
make my own now that I've dropped the IDE in favour of FlashDevelop, but
I think you can still get the components from www.flashloaded.com

Lee



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Sorensen, Shannon M - MWL
Sent: 13 June 2006 16:29
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] Buyer beware mCOM

http://67.104.17.194/complaint/view/57077332/c/47x9hr


Consumer's Original Complaint :
Total:  $299.00 USD 
Item/Product Name:  mCOM 

Forum of upset customers:
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2005/09/mcom_glic_compo.html

The documentation and API spec for this product is so minimal that it
makes using these components impossible. 

I open two support tickets, Ticket id: 132  133, with no responses. I
called twice and was told I would receive a call back and never did. 

Consumer's Desired Resolution:
I believe Metaliq needs to make appropriate documentation for this
product and I personally want my money returned.

BBB Processing 
(Most recent activity listed first)
06/13/2006  OttOEMAIL   Forward Business Response to Consumer
06/12/2006  WEB BBB RECEIVE BUSINESS RESPONSE : From the
Master End User License Agreement, which all customers must agree to
before purchasing the mCOM product:
THE FEE FOR THE PRODUCT BY METALIQ IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
in addition,
Section 7, Paragraph (a)
METALIQ PROVIDES NO REMEDIES OR WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED,
FOR THE PRODUCT, AND THE PRODUCT IS PROVIDED AS IS.
from Section 8. EXCLUSIVE REMEDY:  
Provided that any non-compliance with the above warranty is reported in
writing to Metaliq no more than ninety (90) days following delivery to
you, Metaliq will use reasonable commercial efforts to supply you with a
replacement copy of the Software that substantially conforms to the
documentation, provide a replacement for defective media, or refund to
you your purchase price for the Product, at its option.
**Please note: 90 DAYS
Purchase date 9/2/2005
Case opened 5/31/2006
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Re: [Flashcoders] Buyer beware mCOM

2006-06-13 Thread Derek Vadneau
Contact your bank/credit card company and do a charge-back. Explain the 
situation and you should be able to get your money back from the credit 
card company. Metaliq will get dinged for both the refund and a 
charge-back fee.

Normally this is not a nice thing to do, but if the company offers you no 
other alternative ...


Derek Vadneau

- Original Message - 
From: Sorensen, Shannon M - MWL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: [Flashcoders] Buyer beware mCOM


http://67.104.17.194/complaint/view/57077332/c/47x9hr


Consumer's Original Complaint :
Total:  $299.00 USD
Item/Product Name:  mCOM

Forum of upset customers:
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2005/09/mcom_glic_compo.html

The documentation and API spec for this product is so minimal that it
makes using these components impossible.

I open two support tickets, Ticket id: 132  133, with no responses. I
called twice and was told I would receive a call back and never did.

Consumer's Desired Resolution:
I believe Metaliq needs to make appropriate documentation for this
product and I personally want my money returned.

BBB Processing
(Most recent activity listed first)
06/13/2006 OttO EMAIL Forward Business Response to Consumer
06/12/2006 WEB BBB RECEIVE BUSINESS RESPONSE : From the
Master End User License Agreement, which all customers must agree to
before purchasing the mCOM product:
THE FEE FOR THE PRODUCT BY METALIQ IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
in addition,
Section 7, Paragraph (a)
METALIQ PROVIDES NO REMEDIES OR WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED,
FOR THE PRODUCT, AND THE PRODUCT IS PROVIDED AS IS.
from Section 8. EXCLUSIVE REMEDY:
Provided that any non-compliance with the above warranty is reported in
writing to Metaliq no more than ninety (90) days following delivery to
you, Metaliq will use reasonable commercial efforts to supply you with a
replacement copy of the Software that substantially conforms to the
documentation, provide a replacement for defective media, or refund to
you your purchase price for the Product, at its option.
**Please note: 90 DAYS
Purchase date 9/2/2005
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Winterhalder

On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm on both lists, and the newbie list is more advanced than you would think.  
Most of the questions there could easily be posted here.  There are newbie 
questions of course, but a majority of the subscribers are intermediate to 
advanced Actionscripters.


But what's the point of having two lists then?

I don't and I can't read all of the messages here. I also found myself
reading it far less than I used to. I like to help people when I can
once I'm here, but I come here because there is the benefit of
learning about issues others face so I'm aware of them should I run
into them in the future. It helps me to know what is going on in the
Flash world, what kind of tools are out there and what techniques
people use. You know, those moments when you remember you read
something somewhere and begin to look it up because you know there is
something out there that might be helpful in the situation you found
yourself in.

However, when I read questions that show somebody didn't RTFM, I just
roll my eyes and move on. If that happens too often, I just don't read
the list any more. I don't consider that an elitist attitude at all,
it really is only the short moment when I decide where to click -- I
tend to click on, say, the haXe list or osflash as soon as I notice a
new mail arrived because I find it exciting, but to be honest, when I
click on FlashCoders, the motivation is, well, distraction.
That's sad, and I really miss the discussions that used to be here
during times when hot topics were whether to use Rebel Alliance style
inheritance or to better stick with the docs and swallow that extra
instantiation of a prototype object. Those were the kind of threads
that drew me to this list, and I have learned a lot just by reading
discussions between some of the resident AS Gods.

I guess what it boils down to is that I need the feeling that the list
is relevant to my needs to keep reading it. In fact, newbie questions
are only part of the issue, the other is simply that Flash has grown
and there are areas that don't affect me, no matter how
sophisticated the question may be. For example, I don't use the
Macromedia/Adobe components, so I consider questions regarding them as
noise, even though they are of course totally appropriate to ask here.
That there are obvious beginner questions is just something on top of
that that lessens the value the list has for me, personally, and that
seems unnecessary since there is a list specifically for FlashNewbies.

Mark

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Mc
Hello I am a Noob,

I have a noobie question that cannot be answered on the noob list. I know it is 
a noob question because I have been told on this list that it is.

But even though I have tried all suggestions I still can not get an mp3 player 
to get it's xml list through a Flashvar in the embed tag.

Please use your Action Script Super Powers to help me solve this problem. You 
will save my life, and I will love you for ever.

I have a deal The first one who can help me fix this problem will forever in my 
eyes be known as the Champion of the 2006 International Flash Coders Content 
Degrading Debate.

I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme 
describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make sure they all 
work.
send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will send you the files if you think 
you are a real ninja.

Help Guru's!!!



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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
Before Flashcoders was around, people had to solve their Flash problems on
their own.  After Flashcoders was around, some people didn't know about it
and had to solve their Flash problems on their own.

Bottom line is - the solutions are out there and many people don't take the
time to try and solve their problems on their own before taking it to the
list.  They think that it will be faster if they just ask the list, without
realizing they are robbing themselves of an important exercise in training
their own resourcefulness and problem solving abilities, and at the same
time degrading the signal to noise ratio of Flashcoders.  I can't tell you
how many times in the past three months I've seen the same exact newbie
issues repeated over and over.

Flashcoders is not supposed to be the newbie arena.  It's become the newbie
area because help vampires have infested it.

If a question is 'beneath you' you got more problems than newbies. Nobody
demands that you answer, so whee, get off the list then.

I recommend reading some Ayn Rand.  Just because you need doesn't mean
you're entitled.  Hasn't history proven that communism doesn't work?  Don't
expect others to help you simply because you need help and aren't willing to
help yourself.  Telling the Flash veterans to help me, ignore me, or piss
off is eventually going to reduce this list to newbies helping newbies.

Your response to Try searching the archives or google for your answers
before asking the list is If you don't want to help me, shut up.
Apparently, petulant children have taken over.

The internet is the world's most comprehensive encyclopedia.  While
wikipedia might have fallacious information in it, it's very rare to find
misleading facts about Flash out there.

This article sums it up very well.

http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires

It's so regular you could set your watch by it. The decay of a community is
just as predictable as the decay of certain stable nuclear isotopes. As soon
as an open source project, language, or what-have-you achieves a certain
notoriety-its half-life, if you will-they swarm in, seemingly draining the
very life out of the community itself.

The chief indicator of a Help Vampire problem is the lack of
helpfulness-the community may still appear to be bustling and lively, but if
on closer inspection the conversation is all towards the shallow end of the
pool, with moderately difficult questions going unanswered, then a Help
Vampire infestation is likely.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
The problem with a list named FlashNewbies is that help vampires, or
newbies who don't want to actually do any work, tend to avoid newbie lists
and go straight for the advanced ones because that's where they perceive the
advanced people to be.  Why ask a noob how to do something when you can ask
pro?

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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Tom Lee
Jason,

I think what you are looking for is something like
www.screentime.com/mprojector.  Check out
www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/flas.html#flashShapedWindows - pretty
cool!  It allows for non-square and semi-transparent windows.

-tom

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Merrill,
Jason
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:21 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd
party tools?

Hey thanks though - appreciate it!

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weyert de Boer
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:09 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
party tools?

Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I
have
time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up in
Delphi (win32 onyl)
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
Perfect example of what we are talking about:

I have a noobie question that cannot be answered on the noob list. I
know it is a
noob question because I have been told on this list that it is.

But even though I have tried all suggestions I still can not get an
mp3 player to
get it's xml list through a Flashvar in the embed tag.

I'm going to get sort of unfriendly for a moment.  I hate to, but I
think this illustrates the topic at hand.  Matt,  What makes you think
it can't be answered on the newbie list?  And if you've been told it's a
newbie question, then why NOT ask the newbie list?  We've actually
answered your questions here on Flashcoders regarding that a hundred
different ways.  I think the real problem here, Count Chocula, is you're
not employing basic debugging routines.  You're also assuming that to
get an mp3 player to get it's xml list through a Flashvar in the embed
tag is a single problem to tackle with a single answer.  It's not.
That's two separate issues to tackle at minimum.  First tackle getting a
string from Flashvars.  Then push that string to your mp3 player and
debug that.  I think the trace() function will help you a lot. At least
spread some around and tell us what you see. That will be a lot more
useful to us in helping you than just complaining you still can't get it
working and asking us to use our please use our Actionscript Super
Powers to save you.  :) 

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Mc
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 12:21 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

Hello I am a Noob,

I have a noobie question that cannot be answered on the noob list. I
know it is a
noob question because I have been told on this list that it is.

But even though I have tried all suggestions I still can not get an
mp3 player to
get it's xml list through a Flashvar in the embed tag.

Please use your Action Script Super Powers to help me solve this
problem. You
will save my life, and I will love you for ever.

I have a deal The first one who can help me fix this problem will
forever in my
eyes be known as the Champion of the 2006 International Flash Coders
Content
Degrading Debate.

I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme
describing my
problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make sure they all
work.
send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will send you the
files if you
think you are a real ninja.

Help Guru's!!!



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Re: [Flashcoders] video object

2006-06-13 Thread Éric Thibault
I then suppose that it is a new feature in player 8 like said on 
kaourantin.net


(even if it is listed as a feature of player 7 in the doc. and on 
other web sites)


A+

Éric Thibault a écrit :

Hello all!

Is there a way to know that a seek command has reach the desired 
position in the stream when publishing for Flash 7 AS2?


The only response I get from the stream is : NetStream.Buffer.Full.  
The NetStream.Seek.Notify does not work local or online?!?!  I can 
make it work if I publish for player 8.


I've used this code to debug but it's the same result :

netStream_ns.onStatus = function (infoObject) {
   //trace(NetStream.onStatus called: (+getTimer()+ ms));
 for (var prop in infoObject) {
   MonTexte = MonTexte + \t+prop+:\t+infoObject[prop];
   }
   texte.text = MonTexte;
}

I would like to display some infos/mc after a seek command.  In the 
doc it says it works for ActionScript 1.0; Flash Player 6...


A+




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RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not wmode)3rd party tools?

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
I think what you are looking for is something like
www.screentime.com/mprojector.  Check out
www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/flas.html#flashShapedWindows -
pretty
cool!  It allows for non-square and semi-transparent windows.

Isn't that compiled as a projector file though - an .exe?  That's not
what I'm looking for - Zinc and some other 3rd party tools do that.  I
need the file to come through the browser.  Thanks though.

Jason Merrill
Bank of America 
Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Lee
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:40 PM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
party tools?

Jason,

I think what you are looking for is something like
www.screentime.com/mprojector.  Check out
www.screentime.com/software/mprojector/flas.html#flashShapedWindows -
pretty
cool!  It allows for non-square and semi-transparent windows.

-tom

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Merrill,
Jason
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:21 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
party tools?

Hey thanks though - appreciate it!

Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Technology Solutions







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Weyert de Boer
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:09 AM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Transparent independent window (not
wmode)3rd
party tools?

Yeah, well sadly enough I can't help you with this... Neither do I
have
time for it. Sorry, otherwise I wouldn't mind to hack something up
in
Delphi (win32 onyl)
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[Flashcoders] XP Components?

2006-06-13 Thread Ville Walveranta
Arguments aside whether using components is a good idea in the first place
:-) I wanted to ask if there are XP Components users in Flashcoders? I'm
trying to figure out how they're used from within Actionscript only, and am
having trouble in lack of examples. The documentation of XP Components is
pretty, uh, light and while it may be sufficient for someone very familiar
with component use, for someone who's not extremely familiar with them, some
examples would have come handy. 

 

If someone here uses them, and happens to have handy a piece of code where
XPC interface components are instantiated from code, preferably without use
of forms (is that possible in the first place - they seem to heavily
advocate use of forms based design), it would be really helpful to see an
example.

 

Thanks!

 

Ville

 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread John Grden

I think this thread quite completely explains the subject line.

Besides, when it comes down to it, a list is no different the
latest/greatest hangout you'd find with your friends.  For a while, it was
great - not many people knew, and it was cool.  THen everyone found out, it
got saturated, and you moved on because it was no longer what you remeber
liking about it.  Not to mention, that there are somethings you just simply
outgrow.  Maybe it's not so much that the list changed, as it is yourself.
Last I checked, we still have the same bat players on the same bat channel.
The only thing changing are the questions and new hangouts.
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread phaedrus
*heh* 

I almost asked where is the flash newbie list.  Subtly hilarious, eh?

I'm not really sure where I fall - middling I think - but I figure it can't
hurt to subscribe to that list as well - if I am more advanced than the bulk
there, well, one often learns by teaching (or by having your teaching
corrected), right?

Anyway, I know its been posted here before, but in case anyone can't be
bothered to go find it:

http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashnewbie

See you there.

- phaedrus





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[Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Alec Matusis
I have to embed flash applets into web pages directly, without Javascript
Eolas workaround. The users therefore have to click to activate the
flash movie in IE. 
 
After that, the Flash movie properly receives the text input, EXCEPT for
Backspace and Tab keys. Pressing Backspace has an action of Back button in
the browser, it takes a user back one page. Pressing Tab moves the focus
into another object in the browser.  
 
So it looks like when the control is activated , the Flash receives only a
PARTIAL focus: it accepts all text input except Backspace and Tab. When you
click on Flash the second time, it receives full focus, and Backspace and
Tab function properly. 
 
Can anyone explain this behavior? Is this an IE bug? 

 
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RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Tom Lee
Alec, I'm glad you brought this up: now I'll know I'm not going crazy when I
see the same behavior.  Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for you.  Just
wanted to say that I think your question was a good one.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
Stuhr
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

Alec Matusis schrieb:

 Can anyone explain this behavior? Is this an IE bug? 
 
why don't you use another browser like FF test your cases, and tell us ?
this list is all about coding flash (therefor the name), so if you want an
answer to your 
question why not try all YOU can do, and than ask your question ?

micha
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RE: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Ville Walveranta
Why do you have to embed Flash applets into pages without help of, say,
SWFObject?

Ville

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Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 13:49
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

I have to embed flash applets into web pages directly, without Javascript
Eolas workaround. The users therefore have to click to activate the
flash movie in IE. 
 
After that, the Flash movie properly receives the text input, EXCEPT for
Backspace and Tab keys. Pressing Backspace has an action of Back button in
the browser, it takes a user back one page. Pressing Tab moves the focus
into another object in the browser.  
 
So it looks like when the control is activated , the Flash receives only a
PARTIAL focus: it accepts all text input except Backspace and Tab. When you
click on Flash the second time, it receives full focus, and Backspace and
Tab function properly. 
 
Can anyone explain this behavior? Is this an IE bug? 

 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Winterhalder

On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Perfect example of what we are talking about:


While we're at it, a general piece of advice:

I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme
describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make sure
they all work.
send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will send you the
files if you think you are a real ninja.

The first part looks pretty good, with a readme and everything zipped
neatly together. Bonus points for comments in the code, traces where
they could be helpful with extra comments what they trace. Where it
goes wrong is when it gets to the emailing part -- I don't know how
others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher than
simply downloading a linked zip.
The reason for this is that I would feel like I would be making a
commitment, before even knowing what I was getting myself into. Been
there, done that -- what I got was the most horrible code I had ever
seen, ripped somewhere off the web with variable names in a language
neither me nor the help-seeker could understand, _root and on(
clipEvent ) all over it. After a while I figured it was easier to
rewrite it, which took me only half an hour but didn't save me from
dozens of follow up questions, some of which I had already answered,
others were unrelated, and the rest he answered himself only minutes
after sending.
So, just post a link. If somebody wants to help s/he will look at it
and let you know if there is a solution. A link also means I can look
into it when I come across it and have a few minutes to spare, instead
of waiting for a reply that might come the next day when I don't have
the time.

Since I'm already ranting about off-list issues, some other things I
have encountered in the past:
Please, if you seek help, don't take threads off-list unless asked.
Somebody suggesting something here most likely doesn't want to be your
personal help desk from then on, not by mail, and definitely not via
IM (even if we have the same mother-tongue that doesn't mean you're my
new best friend, it's really not that an uncommon language, thank
you). Keep it on the list. Others will read it, too, and might be able
to help better or quicker, plus if somebody actually bothers to search
the archives it will show up. It's a win-win for everybody involved.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Aaron Buchanan
Fresh off the Flash coders content degrading thread, eh?


On 6/13/06 11:54 AM, Michael Stuhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alec Matusis schrieb:
 
 Can anyone explain this behavior? Is this an IE bug?
 
 why don't you use another browser like FF test your cases, and tell us ?
 this list is all about coding flash (therefor the name), so if you want an
 answer to your 
 question why not try all YOU can do, and than ask your question ?
 
 micha
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Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Michael Stuhr

Aaron Buchanan schrieb:

Fresh off the Flash coders content degrading thread, eh?



didn't even read it.
but i hate those vampires.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Mc
Not to worry Mark others were helpful. No need to commit yourself.LOL 

GIve me a link to a better forum for my question if you have one. 

When I parsed out the info it was hard to get an answer. So I spent some time 
to make a neat package so if someone did want to help I could send it and it 
would be as clean as possible. 

Sorry if I still don't meet your standards of list behavior. 

Bottom line is if someone gets stuck they are going to find help where they 
can. To tell you the truth I would post just about any place to be able to get 
an answer just so I can go to sleep one night this week. 

Some of us are not action scripting for fun. We are working in the real world, 
I am a designer I am learning flash and can make my way around the flash design 
environment just fine.  

If I knew enough about action scripting not to need help (noob) than I wouldn't 
really need this list now would I. 

Also if the Noob list wasn't so Noob I could get my problem solved their 
without getting spurned by an elitist.

The truth about this board is that most people are helpfull and those are the 
people that I have come in contact with. Well untill Mark made his post.

Have a Nice Day Mark.

Matthew

Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason  wrote:
 Perfect example of what we are talking about:

While we're at it, a general piece of advice:

I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme
describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make sure
they all work.
send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will send you the
files if you think you are a real ninja.

The first part looks pretty good, with a readme and everything zipped
neatly together. Bonus points for comments in the code, traces where
they could be helpful with extra comments what they trace. Where it
goes wrong is when it gets to the emailing part -- I don't know how
others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher than
simply downloading a linked zip.
The reason for this is that I would feel like I would be making a
commitment, before even knowing what I was getting myself into. Been
there, done that -- what I got was the most horrible code I had ever
seen, ripped somewhere off the web with variable names in a language
neither me nor the help-seeker could understand, _root and on(
clipEvent ) all over it. After a while I figured it was easier to
rewrite it, which took me only half an hour but didn't save me from
dozens of follow up questions, some of which I had already answered,
others were unrelated, and the rest he answered himself only minutes
after sending.
So, just post a link. If somebody wants to help s/he will look at it
and let you know if there is a solution. A link also means I can look
into it when I come across it and have a few minutes to spare, instead
of waiting for a reply that might come the next day when I don't have
the time.

Since I'm already ranting about off-list issues, some other things I
have encountered in the past:
Please, if you seek help, don't take threads off-list unless asked.
Somebody suggesting something here most likely doesn't want to be your
personal help desk from then on, not by mail, and definitely not via
IM (even if we have the same mother-tongue that doesn't mean you're my
new best friend, it's really not that an uncommon language, thank
you). Keep it on the list. Others will read it, too, and might be able
to help better or quicker, plus if somebody actually bothers to search
the archives it will show up. It's a win-win for everybody involved.

Mark

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread ryanm

I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme
describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make
sure they all work.

   If you spent half as much time reading the documentation as you did 
packaging the files and typing that email, you'd have figured it out on your 
own already.


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RE: [Flashcoders] XP Components?

2006-06-13 Thread Kevin Aebig
I've used the charting components before and found the creator, Robert
Edgar, to be very helpful. Make sure you take a close look at a lot of the
examples as a vast majority of what I needed was found dispersed between
most of them.

Cheers,

!k

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ville
Walveranta
Sent: June 13, 2006 11:59 AM
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: [Flashcoders] XP Components?

Arguments aside whether using components is a good idea in the first place
:-) I wanted to ask if there are XP Components users in Flashcoders? I'm
trying to figure out how they're used from within Actionscript only, and am
having trouble in lack of examples. The documentation of XP Components is
pretty, uh, light and while it may be sufficient for someone very familiar
with component use, for someone who's not extremely familiar with them, some
examples would have come handy. 

 

If someone here uses them, and happens to have handy a piece of code where
XPC interface components are instantiated from code, preferably without use
of forms (is that possible in the first place - they seem to heavily
advocate use of forms based design), it would be really helpful to see an
example.

 

Thanks!

 

Ville

 

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RE: [Flashcoders] XP Components?

2006-06-13 Thread Ville Walveranta

Yeah, I'm making *slow* progress, partially with help of the examples,
partially just trial-and-error. 

There appears to be a slow-down in responses from ePresenterPlus in recent
times. I remember in the past their answers were lightning-fast, but these
days it may take a week or two, even with sales-related questions. 

It would be great if they had some kind of community forum for people who
use their products.

Ville

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 14:34
To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] XP Components?

I've used the charting components before and found the creator, Robert
Edgar, to be very helpful. Make sure you take a close look at a lot of the
examples as a vast majority of what I needed was found dispersed between
most of them.

Cheers,

!k


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Mc
I am sure some people post every question they have with out doing research.  I 
looked everywhere including the origional authors website. Common Creative 
licence I used this list as an absolute last resort. 

PS. a programmer at work helped me with the problem and we have it solved. But 
for the last week it has fallen on me to make it happen. Under pressure you 
look for the help you can thats why we have a list like this right! So we can 
learn more and get better at what we do. 

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Britton

I recommend avoiding flashvars and loading the XML using XML2
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2004/02/the_ultimate_as.html.



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Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Kevin Newman
Is the problem that you can't run Javascript at all, or that you need to 
put the embed code in html instead of javascript?


You could use this patent fix:
http://www.unfocus.com/projects/patentmagic/

It still relies on scripting being enabled (so you'd still have this 
problem for anyone that doesn't have JS enabled - if they don't have JS 
enabled, they probably don't have ActiveX enable either though), but you 
can at least use your html markup to embed the flash movie.


Kevin N.


Alec Matusis wrote:

I have to embed flash applets into web pages directly, without Javascript
Eolas workaround. The users therefore have to click to activate the
flash movie in IE. 
 
After that, the Flash movie properly receives the text input, EXCEPT for

Backspace and Tab keys. Pressing Backspace has an action of Back button in
the browser, it takes a user back one page. Pressing Tab moves the focus
into another object in the browser.  
 
So it looks like when the control is activated , the Flash receives only a

PARTIAL focus: it accepts all text input except Backspace and Tab. When you
click on Flash the second time, it receives full focus, and Backspace and
Tab function properly. 
 
Can anyone explain this behavior? Is this an IE bug? 

 


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread iestyn lloyd

On 6/13/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know how
others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher than
simply downloading a linked zip.


Agreed. I enjoy helping amateurs on smaller problems (offlist), as
people from various places have helped me when I was learning the
basics. What goes around comes around.

Zips are so much more friendly though. If i have a period of downtime
at work, then if there's a zip, i'm far more likely to download it and
have a quick look, rather than commit myself to individual
correspondence.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Matt Mc
Thanks Mike I will check that out. I do really appreciate all the time you guys 
give to this list.

Mike Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recommend avoiding flashvars and 
loading the XML using XML2
http://www.gskinner.com/blog/archives/2004/02/the_ultimate_as.html.



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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread ryanm

Your response to Try searching the archives or google for your answers
before asking the list is If you don't want to help me, shut up.
Apparently, petulant children have taken over.

   Excellent summarization. The problem is, this tells me more about you 
than it does about the list. This is probably your first time to see an 
email list go full cycle. Eventually you'll move on to another list that is 
better for you, it'll rule for a while, and then the same thing will happen: 
the newbs will take over, and you'll have to move on again. For me, having 
cut my teeth on BBSes, usenet, and gopher, the entire internet has gone to 
the newbs, and I'm waiting for the next internet to be invented so that I 
can move on. ;-)


ryanm 


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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
 Bottom line is if someone gets stuck they are going to find 
 help where they can. To tell you the truth I would post just 
 about any place to be able to get an answer just so I can go 
 to sleep one night this week. 

 Some of us are not action scripting for fun. We are working 
 in the real world, I am a designer I am learning flash and 
 can make my way around the flash design environment just fine.  
 
 If I knew enough about action scripting not to need help 
 (noob) than I wouldn't really need this list now would I. 
 
 Also if the Noob list wasn't so Noob I could get my problem 
 solved their without getting spurned by an elitist.

I've got four words for you.  Buy a freaking book.  :)

There are NUMEROUS books out there on the subject.  There are books
dedicated to helping designers learn how to code in Flash from a designer's
perspective.  I'm sure you'll find something at Amazon or your local
bookstore.

When I wanted to learn Ruby on Rails, I went out and bought a few books.  I
read them from cover to cover and then I started coding, referring back to
the books when I needed assistance.  If I came across something the book
didn't cover, I'd run a bunch of google searches.  Finally, if I couldn't
figure something out, I'd hop on the IRC channel and ask very specific
questions which would lead me towards the solution, not asking for the
solution.

Here's the truth.  Programming is not for everyone.  It requires a type of
patience, perseverance, and masochism that few possess.  Maybe you're just
not cut out for it.  That doesn't mean anyone is better than you, just
different than you.  If your strength is design, I say follow that path
because programming really can be frustrating for many people.  

I can't draw a button.  Anytime I try I end up frustrated.  Imagine if there
was a mailing list for designers and I got on and asked questions about how
to draw buttons.  I might get help at first but eventually people would say
Go buy a book on drawing and practice.  I have friends who have been
drawing since they were children.  They have a sketchbook and always have
some book like how to draw faces, or arms, or animals, or whatever.  They're
constantly practicing techniques.  It's no different.

There's a great quote about programming. 

programming: n.
A pastime similar to banging one's head against a wall, but with fewer
opportunities for reward. 

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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Merrill, Jason
On 6/13/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/13/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know how
 others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher
than
 simply downloading a linked zip.

That second line is a mis-quote.  I didn't say that, Mark did.  Though I
agree :) 

Jason Merrill
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Learning Technology Solutions
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
 Why not hire a designer?

Precisely my point.  Hence, a designer should hire a programmer if they need
some programming done.  

:)

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash coders content degrading

2006-06-13 Thread John Grden

Hey Matt, give Xray a try:

www.osflash.org/xray

Look at your flash application/site in anyway you want and learn a TON more
about the player at the same time.  I've heard from so many flash devs that
they not only fixed their issues, but their knowledge of the player went up
10 fold while using xray.  Yeah, i'm biased, but it flat out works.  Hell,
any good debug routine will help immensly to be honest.

hth,

JG

On 6/13/06, Matt Mc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Not to worry Mark others were helpful. No need to commit yourself.LOL

GIve me a link to a better forum for my question if you have one.

When I parsed out the info it was hard to get an answer. So I spent some
time to make a neat package so if someone did want to help I could send it
and it would be as clean as possible.

Sorry if I still don't meet your standards of list behavior.

Bottom line is if someone gets stuck they are going to find help where
they can. To tell you the truth I would post just about any place to be able
to get an answer just so I can go to sleep one night this week.

Some of us are not action scripting for fun. We are working in the real
world, I am a designer I am learning flash and can make my way around the
flash design environment just fine.

If I knew enough about action scripting not to need help (noob) than I
wouldn't really need this list now would I.

Also if the Noob list wasn't so Noob I could get my problem solved their
without getting spurned by an elitist.

The truth about this board is that most people are helpfull and those are
the people that I have come in contact with. Well untill Mark made his post.

Have a Nice Day Mark.

Matthew

Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/06, Merrill,
Jason  wrote:
 Perfect example of what we are talking about:

While we're at it, a general piece of advice:

I have the files all neatly bundled up in a zip file. I have a readme
describing my problem I have checked all my links (twice) to make sure
they all work.
send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will send you the
files if you think you are a real ninja.

The first part looks pretty good, with a readme and everything zipped
neatly together. Bonus points for comments in the code, traces where
they could be helpful with extra comments what they trace. Where it
goes wrong is when it gets to the emailing part -- I don't know how
others feel about this, but for me the threshold is /much/ higher than
simply downloading a linked zip.
The reason for this is that I would feel like I would be making a
commitment, before even knowing what I was getting myself into. Been
there, done that -- what I got was the most horrible code I had ever
seen, ripped somewhere off the web with variable names in a language
neither me nor the help-seeker could understand, _root and on(
clipEvent ) all over it. After a while I figured it was easier to
rewrite it, which took me only half an hour but didn't save me from
dozens of follow up questions, some of which I had already answered,
others were unrelated, and the rest he answered himself only minutes
after sending.
So, just post a link. If somebody wants to help s/he will look at it
and let you know if there is a solution. A link also means I can look
into it when I come across it and have a few minutes to spare, instead
of waiting for a reply that might come the next day when I don't have
the time.

Since I'm already ranting about off-list issues, some other things I
have encountered in the past:
Please, if you seek help, don't take threads off-list unless asked.
Somebody suggesting something here most likely doesn't want to be your
personal help desk from then on, not by mail, and definitely not via
IM (even if we have the same mother-tongue that doesn't mean you're my
new best friend, it's really not that an uncommon language, thank
you). Keep it on the list. Others will read it, too, and might be able
to help better or quicker, plus if somebody actually bothers to search
the archives it will show up. It's a win-win for everybody involved.

Mark

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Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Michael Stuhr

Aaron Buchanan schrieb:

Now that I think about it, lot's of people will a similar issue with any
myspace applets. Since JS is restricted.

Would be interested in hearing the resolution. Did you try in firefox?

a
why not use UFO or similar and provide an additional noscript / with the somewhat 
deprecated object and embed ?


micha
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[Flashcoders] DataGrid not drawing

2006-06-13 Thread Wade Arnold
 

I have a datagrid behind a movieclip in a tab type layout. I populate the
data grid when the application is loaded. When I show the movieclip that has
the datagrid in it I have to move the scroll bar in order to get the data to
display. I have tried to call draw, and invalidate and neither are helping
me. 

 

Thanks for any advice. 

 

 

Wade

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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flash coders content degrading (Mark Winter halder)

2006-06-13 Thread Dave Watts
 The list is still amazing once you weed out the 
 RTFM/Googlables. I just wish that the moderators would do 
 this job for us so the overall quality of the list could 
 stay amazing. 

You do realize that this is, and always has been, an unmoderated list,
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flash coders content degrading (Mark Winter halder)

2006-06-13 Thread Aaron Buchanan
lol


On 6/13/06 2:06 PM, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 You do realize that this is, and always has been, an unmoderated list,
 right?
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 
 Dave, please keep your replies on-topic.  :)
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Eolas fix and backspace key flash bug

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Nowak
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 why not use UFO or similar  [...] 

Since JS is restricted.

 [...] and provide an additional noscript / with the somewhat 
 deprecated object and embed ?

Originally:  I have to embed flash applets into web pages directly, without 
Javascript
Eolas workaround. The users therefore have to click to activate the
flash movie in IE. 

Using noscript doesn't fix the EOLAS click to activate *feature* and the 
focus bugs that it likely creates.

Getting back to the original questio, I can't replicate the BACKSPACE issue, 
but I definitely see it with TAB. One possible workaround could be to set a 
textfield off stage. Tab will still go through the movie before going back to 
the browser, so maybe setting a onSetFocus handler to look for that and then 
manually refocusing on that one text field? Might keep IE at bay, but I haven't 
tested it.


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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flash coders content degrading (Mark Winter halder)

2006-06-13 Thread Mark Winterhalder

On 6/13/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The list is still amazing once you weed out the
 RTFM/Googlables. I just wish that the moderators would do
 this job for us so the overall quality of the list could
 stay amazing.

You do realize that this is, and always has been, an unmoderated list,
right?


Dave,

I'm well aware of that.
What I'd like to know, since you put my name in the subject line, is
where that quote is from. It certainly isn't from me and it's not from
the list. In fact, the word Googlables, while an interesting
creation, doesn't appear in my mail archives at all.
If you received it off-list, and it had my address as the sender,
please forward it to me with the header intact.

(And thanks Ken!)

Thanks,
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RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Flash coders content degrading (Mark Winterhalder)

2006-06-13 Thread Steven Sacks
 You do realize that this is, and always has been, an unmoderated list,
 right?

Now that isn't true at all.  I remember back in the early years the OT
police jumped on anyone who posted OT stuff.  Brendan was behind most of
that, and since his departure it seems the list has slowly gotten more and
more out of control.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Flash coders content degrading (Mark Winter halder)

2006-06-13 Thread hank williams

Mark,

I think a bit of confusion. It was in ken's posting, and he put your
name in the subject line. Dave then responded to ken, not you.

Hank

On 6/13/06, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/13/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The list is still amazing once you weed out the
  RTFM/Googlables. I just wish that the moderators would do
  this job for us so the overall quality of the list could
  stay amazing.

 You do realize that this is, and always has been, an unmoderated list,
 right?

Dave,

I'm well aware of that.
What I'd like to know, since you put my name in the subject line, is
where that quote is from. It certainly isn't from me and it's not from
the list. In fact, the word Googlables, while an interesting
creation, doesn't appear in my mail archives at all.
If you received it off-list, and it had my address as the sender,
please forward it to me with the header intact.

(And thanks Ken!)

Thanks,
Mark

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