[Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
Hi all, I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has been hacked? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
Confirmed... no thinking about it...it's been hit buy hackers :-( Dene Andrew Gluszynski wrote: Hi all, I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has been hacked? - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
Hi. Please don't top-post; it makes your posts very very hard to follow. On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:22:43 +1300 Dene wrote: Andrew Gluszynski wrote: Hi all, I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has been hacked? Confirmed... no thinking about it...it's been hit buy hackers :-( Dene You might want to check the archives of this mailing list -- I'm pretty sure this was discussed here several days ago. I thought the problem had been solved, however. Anyway, right now it appears simply that the DNS record for www.flightgear.org has been hosed, but not the actual website itself. Try http://flightgear.org/ rather than http://www.flightgear.org/ and it should work OK. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
Chris Metzler wrote: Hi. Please don't top-post; it makes your posts very very hard to follow. Hi Chris, What do you mean top-post, I thought the protocol was to edit the post you were replying to and post your comments either through out it or at the bottom? Cheers Dene PS thnx for the hint on getting to the site..works a treat - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG Performance on WIndows
Am Mittwoch, den 08.11.2006, 14:39 -0800 schrieb Andy Ross: People apparently got used to the state that FlightGear typically has a CVS tree that you can compile at the end of a development day and 'fly'. Remember that people doing aircraft models and scenery are also developers, and need to be able to run the development version to do their work (for example, to pick up bug fixes and new features -- this kind of back and forth happens every day on the IRC channel). As with yesterdays CVS I see some advantages for content developers. First thing I noticed is that the nasty .ac Object sorting is not necessary in OSG. Models exported from Blender work right out of the box, without the need to resort the Objects to fix transparency bugs. Another point is, Crew member models added by an include .xml file were not visible from the outside in plib. Also external stores I added to the 109 were invisible when looked at through the propdisk. That was a nasty shortcoming of plib, which kept me from releasing these features. This all displays perfectly now, which is imho a promising start for FG-OSG. It makes content developers work easier. Of course there are lots of things broken (firing the guns of the F4U or spitfire crahes FG immediately, removing the smoke submodels helps a bit). But as this is a development version I will wait patiently for the fixes. ... my personal opinion Greetings Detlef The CVS head isn't just for code jockeys like us, and treating it like it is is a sure way to cheese off our content developers, as witnessed by this thread. Andy - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear OSG build problem
Jon Stockill wrote: No, it's gcc-3.4.6, but if you're having the problem on IRIX then that is a pointer - slackware uses glut - not freeglut, and I suspect that IRIX uses glut too. Could this be caused by header differences? Has anyone else successfully built FlightGear-OSG on a system that doesn't ue freeglut? I forgot to add - commenting out the #undef APIENTRY line in glut.h allowed me to complete the build. I'd just like to add to the other thread - as a non-programmer sysadmin data junkie type I accept that there will be stages in the development of any large software package where it may not build - particularly when there are large updates in progress. I am sensible enough to keep around a copy of the plib tree, as well as previously built plib binaries in order to ensure that I can still update and test scenery. The population of the planet with scenery models continues unabated - over 5000 wind turbines were added to Denmark just last week (thanks to Morten for the data source). Keep up the great work guys. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bo105, the different helicopter
Hi, Others nice videos found on flightlevel350.com EC 135: http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Eurocopter_EC-135-Airline_Norwegian_National_Air_Rescue_Aviation_Video-6661.html MBB Bo 105: http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_MBB_Bö_105-Airline_Rhein-Ruhr-Helicopter_Aviation_Video-6408.html http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_MBB_Bö_105-Airline_Norwegian_National_Air_Rescue_Aviation_Video-6183.html I love the last one! Greetz HHS --- Maik Justus [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi, today I found some old videos (I saw long time ago on TV) about the maneuverability of the bo105. Worth to see... (We need more trees in flightgear) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKPREi3TGXwmode=relatedsearch= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgYi0hmgWbsmode=relatedsearch= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYlWEoN3mhUmode=relatedsearch= Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG update...
Quoting Martin Spott : Hi Frederic, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I tried the b1900b on my OSG-Windows-MSVC build and it loads without a segfault. Don't you see these messages on Windows ? Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb Cannot find image file wherever is $FG_ROOT/FOO I saw problems loading texture, but from memory, the file names were the empty string except for the last that is caused by a panel declaration without backgroud texture. The FOO thingy is in panel_io.cxx from day 1 ( line 701 ). Neither lead to a segfault for me. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 06:39, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a écrit : В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 05:05 Didier Fabert написал(a): hi, how can i switch on the landing light ? like the last image on http://www.avsim.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=30396 It work only for patched sim. I write patch, for use openGL light source in FGFS. This patch was rejected with some reason - read pls devel list about two weeks ago. sorry i don't see it. I want to put compiled and patched FGFS on my ftp archive, for experimental use nice, what is the net address ? but I have not windows and I not know nothing about compiling FGFS for windows. It may take some days, when I do it. me too. i 'm under gentoo linux and i test freebsd (64bits system). window$ is not installed at all and perhaps never be. But if you have devel version of FGFS, you can apply patch, recompile sim and send to me fgfs.exe. I put it for another people, who want use this lights. sorry i cannot do it myself. -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Didier Fabert wrote: Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 06:39, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a ?crit?: It work only for patched sim. I write patch, for use openGL light source in FGFS. This patch was rejected with some reason - read pls devel list about two weeks ago. sorry i don't see it. According to my memory people didn't fall in love with the proposed patch because it attempted to set lightning stuff outside the scenegraph. This results in much higher cost of performance and maintainability !! compared to a clean solution inside the scenegraph, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Citing myself Martin Spott wrote: According to my memory people didn't fall in love with the proposed patch because it attempted to set lightning stuff outside the scenegraph. This results in much higher cost of performance and maintainability !! compared to a clean solution inside the scenegraph, I have to admit that the landing-light screeenshot with the AN-2 indeed looks terribly nice, very desirable. On the other hand we should not forget that Mathias, during his port to OSG, is currently working on collecting old crufty scenegraph workarounds together, trying to put this into a clean shape. It's probably better to wait until a clean solution for landing lights is available instead of putting even more cruft on the pile, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bo105, the different helicopter
Hi Heiko, Heiko Schulz wrote: I love the last one! Do you have an idea if these videos are available in some not _that_ closed format ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 13:33, Martin Spott a écrit : I have to admit that the landing-light screeenshot with the AN-2 indeed looks terribly nice, very desirable. On the other hand we should not forget that Mathias, during his port to OSG, is currently working on collecting old crufty scenegraph workarounds together, trying to put this into a clean shape. It's probably better to wait until a clean solution for landing lights is available instead of putting even more cruft on the pile, Martin. If you don't want to add it into CVS, it's ok. but have a patched version render waiting more cool! it's not a problem for me to have patched executable. i still have a patched version for the l410 (from v0.9.10), for the crusader (from cvs-without-osg). when you love, you don't count ! :-) (not sure this french expression is translatable) -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG update...
On Thursday 09 November 2006 10:33, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Don't you see these messages on Windows ? Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb Cannot find image file wherever is $FG_ROOT/FOO I saw problems loading texture, but from memory, the file names were the empty string except for the last that is caused by a panel declaration without backgroud texture. The chrome messages are related to the chrome shader effect which has not yet been implemented in the OSG version of FG. The Lightning shows the same messages (but suffers much more because practically the whole a/c skin uses that effect). The b1900d segfaults here with OSG (Linux x86). Cheers, AJ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: . When I want to rewrite code and put lights to scenegraph, devel community begin migration to OSG. I decide wait some times, until process will gone to working state. Fine, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 18:08 Didier Fabert написал(a): nice, what is the net address ? I shell write to you and devel list, when it will be ready. me too. i 'm under gentoo linux and i test freebsd (64bits system). window$ is not installed at all and perhaps never be. Well, I use FreeBSD too. Would you system use 32-bit FreeBSD 6.1 binary? If yes, I can send patched binary for you. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
The http://www.flightgear.org seems to be offline (maybe a DNS problem) and http://flightgear.org is working fine.Leidson CamposPlanetaMessenger.org On 11/9/06, Andrew Gluszynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site hasbeen hacked?-Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easierDownload IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 12:03, Yurik V. Nikiforoff a écrit : В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 18:08 Didier Fabert написал(a): nice, what is the net address ? I shell write to you and devel list, when it will be ready. me too. i 'm under gentoo linux and i test freebsd (64bits system). window$ is not installed at all and perhaps never be. Well, I use FreeBSD too. Would you system use 32-bit FreeBSD 6.1 binary? If yes, I can send patched binary for you. all systems are in 64bits natively. but, as i wrote, i begin with it. i use it to test if my flightgear frontend (kfreeflight) can be runnable on freebsd. perhaps i will switching to gentoo-bsd (freebsd with gentoo tools). thanks in advance -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear OSG build problem
Quoting Martin Spott : Hi Jon, Frederic, Jon Stockill wrote: Jon Stockill wrote: I didn't ever recieve this first EMail I forgot to add - commenting out the #undef APIENTRY line in glut.h allowed me to complete the build. I'm not still there but at least the ATC stuff compiles fine after following your recommendation - I guess the rest will do so as well. BTW, yes, I have the real glut installation on IRIX. As none of the OSG header files includes glut.h, wouldn't it make sense to explicitly define APIENTRY for example in simgear/scene/model/model.hxx on non-Windows systems in order to make FlightGear compile with the original glut as well, or is this a completely mislead idea ? The problem is more or less identical on Windows and Unix : glut #undef APIENTRY . If you happen to have glut included between your define and the code that use it, either directly or indirectly, as it is the case including plib/pu.h, you're dead. It would make more sense to apply Jon's patch, or mine as previously suggested. Off course, this is an open trap for newcomers, just like the freeglut 2.4 bug. BTW: freeglut doesn't use the MS APIENTRY, but their own FGAPIENTRY, so no conflicts there. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Hi Yurik, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. Seen that in real life already, with a huge silencer attached to the exhaust :-) The model acutally works for me, not only with Flightgear/PLIB but with the current OSG-based binary as well. There are still some transparency issues with OSG, but that's a different story The explanation of the startup procedure (and the procedre itself) is extremely well done !! One thing I'd like to have fixed before adding the aircraft to CVS is the VRP, the Visual Reference Point. This is the point that FDM and 3D model have to agree upon to be their common point of origin for all geometry related operations. With your AN-2, the FDM places the VRP close to (or maybe at, I don't know exactly) the center of lift whereas the 3D model has its VRP at the nose. The result is that, when you apply big movements to the elevator in flight, the aircraft rotates around its nose like a wagging dog tail. In order to fix this you have to apply an offset to the VRP that moves the center of lift of the FDM to the same location in the 3D model. Unfortunately I currently can't help you here because I'm trying to fix the same issue with an aircraft that's already in CVS - and I yet didn't succeed to do so :-/ There's a trick to visualize the mentioned effect. Toggle an external view, look at the aircraft from the side and activate the HUD. The center of the HUD will point you to the FDM's center of lift. You'll see, it's pointing to the nose of the 3D model. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?
Heiko Schulz wrote: I mean not to stop the work on OSG - far from it! But if we want FlightGear and OSG to get better we need users - and we get them only with a next release. With OSG in the state it's in, we can't go testing it on the users. If we did, we won't *have* any users before too long! The currently version is a good one with very few bugs. There are much improvements done since april. For me important: framerates are stable, the helicopter fdm is more realistic than MSFS's, nice route manager (could be the cutting edge for a FMS)- every day I'm flying with FG I got more fun. I would vote for a next release - a pre-OSG release! ;-) Agreed, a release of all the things that are working, but for now at least, no OSG. I don't know what Curt uses as a metric for deciding if a new release should happen, but the time delay between the current 'stable' and the previous one was about two years - too long I'm sure. People out there start assuming that a project is *dead* if it doesn't release new versions within living memory! Having said that, getting a release together is hard work for the team. It shouldn't be done unless there's a good reason. Steve - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
On 11/9/06, Leidson Campos A. Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The http://www.flightgear.org seems to be offline (maybe a DNS problem) and http://flightgear.org is working fine.Check what IP addresses these names point to. www.flightgear.org is the official site., flightgear.org actually points to my backup machine right now. As of two seconds ago I have set www.flightgear.org to point to my backup server. Might take a while for the dns to flush through if you've already done a dns request for www.flightgear.org recently.Curt.-- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/http://www.flightgear.orgUnique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?
Le jeudi 9 novembre 2006 15:21, Steve Hosgood a écrit : Agreed, a release of all the things that are working, but for now at least, no OSG. I don't know what Curt uses as a metric for deciding if a new release should happen, but the time delay between the current 'stable' and the previous one was about two years - too long I'm sure. People out there start assuming that a project is *dead* if it doesn't release new versions within living memory! just update the update date on the web site show people that project is not dead. and write it a little big strongly :-) -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 04:05 -0500, Chris Metzler wrote: Hi. Please don't top-post; it makes your posts very very hard to follow. On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:22:43 +1300 Dene wrote: Andrew Gluszynski wrote: Hi all, I dont normaly post to this mailing list, but i think the web site has been hacked? Confirmed... no thinking about it...it's been hit buy hackers :-( Dene You might want to check the archives of this mailing list -- I'm pretty sure this was discussed here several days ago. I thought the problem had been solved, however. Anyway, right now it appears simply that the DNS record for www.flightgear.org has been hosed, but not the actual website itself. Try http://flightgear.org/ rather than http://www.flightgear.org/ and it should work OK. -c Hi Chris, It had been. I accessed it sucessfully earlier today but seems to be hosed again from my isp. I query the www.flightgear.org and flightgear.org dns records from one of easydns's server and they are this same. See below I think Andrew may just need to wait for www.flightgear.org to be refreshed at his local dns server. See below. Regards George Querying the domains from my isp's dns server. $ host flightgear.org flightgear.org has address 128.101.142.119 flightgear.org mail is handled by 5 mail.flightgear.org. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ host www.flightgear.org www.flightgear.org has address 72.36.162.58 Querying easydns.com's server directly. $ nslookup server ns1.easydns.com Default server: ns1.easydns.com Address: 216.220.40.243#53 flightgear.org Server: ns1.easydns.com Address:216.220.40.243#53 Name: flightgear.org Address: 128.101.142.119 www.flightgear.org Server: ns1.easydns.com Address:216.220.40.243#53 Name: www.flightgear.org Address: 128.101.142.119 $ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG update...
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:03 +, AJ MacLeod wrote: On Thursday 09 November 2006 10:33, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Don't you see these messages on Windows ? Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb Cannot find image file wherever is $FG_ROOT/FOO I saw problems loading texture, but from memory, the file names were the empty string except for the last that is caused by a panel declaration without backgroud texture. The chrome messages are related to the chrome shader effect which has not yet been implemented in the OSG version of FG. The Lightning shows the same messages (but suffers much more because practically the whole a/c skin uses that effect). The b1900d segfaults here with OSG (Linux x86). Hi All, The B1900d will also segfault on the OSG version (with 64bit libraries)on the AMD64 Architecture. Regards George - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG update...
Quoting George Patterson: On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:03 +, AJ MacLeod wrote: On Thursday 09 November 2006 10:33, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Don't you see these messages on Windows ? Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb Cannot find image file wherever is $FG_ROOT/FOO I saw problems loading texture, but from memory, the file names were the empty string except for the last that is caused by a panel declaration without backgroud texture. The chrome messages are related to the chrome shader effect which has not yet been implemented in the OSG version of FG. The Lightning shows the same messages (but suffers much more because practically the whole a/c skin uses that effect). The b1900d segfaults here with OSG (Linux x86). Hi All, The B1900d will also segfault on the OSG version (with 64bit libraries)on the AMD64 Architecture. nobody to post a backtrace ? -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG update...
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 16:22 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Quoting George Patterson: On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:03 +, AJ MacLeod wrote: On Thursday 09 November 2006 10:33, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Don't you see these messages on Windows ? Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb Cannot find image file wherever is $FG_ROOT/FOO I saw problems loading texture, but from memory, the file names were the empty string except for the last that is caused by a panel declaration without backgroud texture. The chrome messages are related to the chrome shader effect which has not yet been implemented in the OSG version of FG. The Lightning shows the same messages (but suffers much more because practically the whole a/c skin uses that effect). The b1900d segfaults here with OSG (Linux x86). Hi All, The B1900d will also segfault on the OSG version (with 64bit libraries)on the AMD64 Architecture. nobody to post a backtrace ? -Fred -- Hi Fred, Sorry about that. See attached file (8.9kB) for backtrace. I'm not that familiar with gdb as far as getting the best output for a backtrace. Regards George $ gdb fgfs GNU gdb 6.4.90-debian Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as x86_64-linux-gnu...Using host libthread_db library /lib/libthread_db.so.1. (gdb) run --aircraft=b1900d Starting program: /usr/local/bin/fgfs --aircraft=b1900d [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 47533915618256 (LWP 7314)] [New Thread 1082636624 (LWP 7324)] Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb [New Thread 1091029328 (LWP 7337)] Cannot find image file /usr/local/share/FlightGear/FOO Flight Director Check Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 47533915618256 (LWP 7314)] 0x2b3b579c0a5b in osg::StateSet::runUpdateCallbacks () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so (gdb) bt full #0 0x2b3b579c0a5b in osg::StateSet::runUpdateCallbacks () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #1 0x004230a8 in osgUtil::UpdateVisitor::apply (this=0x6092040, node=value optimized out) at /usr/local/include/osgUtil/UpdateVisitor:74 No locals. #2 0x2b3b5795f049 in osg::Group::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #3 0x2b3b5795d7d0 in osg::Group::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #4 0x2b3b5795f049 in osg::Group::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #5 0x2b3b5795d7d0 in osg::Group::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #6 0x008bcb4c in SGTranslateAnimation::operator() (this=0x499d690, node=0x49ae920, nv=0x6092040) at animation.cxx:699 _matrix = {_mat = {{1, 0, 0, 0}, {0, 1, 0, 0}, {0, 0, 1, 0}, {0, 0, 0, 1}}} #7 0x2b3b5797619f in osg::MatrixTransform::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #8 0x2b3b5795d7d0 in osg::Group::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #9 0x2b3b5795f049 in osg::Group::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #10 0x2b3b579ccfa1 in osg::Switch::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #11 0x2b3b579cd90c in osg::Switch::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #12 0x2b3b5795d7d0 in osg::Group::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #13 0x2b3b5797619f in osg::MatrixTransform::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #14 0x2b3b5795d7d0 in osg::Group::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #15 0x2b3b5797619f in osg::MatrixTransform::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #16 0x2b3b579ccfa1 in osg::Switch::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #17 0x2b3b579cd90c in osg::Switch::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #18 0x2b3b5795d7d0 in osg::Group::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #19 0x2b3b5797619f in osg::MatrixTransform::accept () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #20 0x2b3b5795d7d0 in osg::Group::traverse () from /usr/local/lib64/libosg.so No symbol table info available. #21 0x008b908c in
Re: [Flightgear-devel] new osg packages
Mathias Fröhlich schrieb: Hi, I have placed a new set of openscenegraph packages at ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Misc_maf/OpenSceneGraph-20061108 Feedback: compiles and works without problem on OpenSuse 10.1 x86_64. Georg - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear OSG build problem
I should double check, but I believe I'm running glut-3.7 on my home machine and didnt' have any build problems (Fedora Core 6.)For what it's worth. The full screen (game) mode of freeglut (any version) is horribly broken under unix. SDL full screen works fine, but locks out all other heads on a multiheaded system. Old, original glut (well 3.7 anyway) is the only version I've found that can successful go full screen with FlightGear on one display of a multiheaded system while leaving the other head(s) usable for other things (like an operator console for instance.) Curt.On 11/9/06, Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, November 8, 2006 4:50 pm, Martin Spott wrote: This is _excellent_ because of two reasons: 1.) It releaves the bug from showing up only on IRIX/MIPSpro - where I ran into it right after the OSG port appeared in FlightGear CVS (I guess Frederic will remember), 2.) GCC's error message is much more informative, which should make it easier to track what happens here. I guess you're running GCC-4.x, right ? I have built FlightGear on Linux and FreeBSD with GCC-3.x and didn't face the effect you present to us,No, it's gcc-3.4.6, but if you're having the problem on IRIX then that isa pointer - slackware uses glut - not freeglut, and I suspect that IRIX uses glut too. Could this be caused by header differences? Has anyone elsesuccessfully built FlightGear-OSG on a system that doesn't ue freeglut?--Jon Stockill[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimohttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___Flightgear-devel mailing listFlightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel-- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/http://www.flightgear.orgUnique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG update...
Quoting George Patterson: On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 16:22 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Quoting George Patterson: On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:03 +, AJ MacLeod wrote: On Thursday 09 November 2006 10:33, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Don't you see these messages on Windows ? Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb Cannot find image file wherever is $FG_ROOT/FOO I saw problems loading texture, but from memory, the file names were the empty string except for the last that is caused by a panel declaration without backgroud texture. The chrome messages are related to the chrome shader effect which has not yet been implemented in the OSG version of FG. The Lightning shows the same messages (but suffers much more because practically the whole a/c skin uses that effect). The b1900d segfaults here with OSG (Linux x86). Hi All, The B1900d will also segfault on the OSG version (with 64bit libraries)on the AMD64 Architecture. nobody to post a backtrace ? -Fred -- Hi Fred, Sorry about that. See attached file (8.9kB) for backtrace. I'm not that familiar with gdb as far as getting the best output for a backtrace. Thanks George, I will try to look into that, but unfortunately, your OSG build has no debug information. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://frfoto.free.fr Photo gallery - album photo http://www.fotolia.fr/p/2278/partner/2278 Other photo gallery http://fgsd.sourceforge.net/ FlightGear Scenery Designer - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
Check what IP addresses these names point to.The www.flightgear.org points to 72.36.162.58 (Not working)The flightgear.org points to 128.101.142.119 (Working) Leidson CamposPlanetaMessenger.orgOn 11/9/06, Curtis Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/9/06, Leidson Campos A. Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The http://www.flightgear.org seems to be offline (maybe a DNS problem) and http://flightgear.org is working fine.Check what IP addresses these names point to. www.flightgear.org is the official site., flightgear.org actually points to my backup machine right now. As of two seconds ago I have set www.flightgear.org to point to my backup server. Might take a while for the dns to flush through if you've already done a dns request for www.flightgear.org recently.Curt.-- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.orgUnique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d -Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?
On 11/9/06, Steve Hosgood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what Curt uses as a metric for deciding if a new releaseshould happen, but the time delay between the current 'stable' and theprevious one was about two years - too long I'm sure. v0.9.10 was released in April. We have long since abandoned the even/stable odd/devel release approach. 0.8.x is long forgotten and really was never supported beyond a couple fixes people back patched into it early in it's existence. Just to make it clear to everyone. Right now I am struggling with a couple critical dead lines at work. The pressure is on me for my day job, and I'm screwing my schedule and deadlines right now by just taking the time to reply to this message. But, it's seems like for pretty much this entire year, the pressure at my day job never lets off, so I have to take a breather once in a while even if it provokes my bosses to scream at me even louder. So combine that with a wife, 2 kids, and needing to spend some time with them so they don't forget what I look like, and it becomes a real struggle to stay on top of life. Sometimes I feel a bit like this poor guy: http://www.mypartypost.com/watchvideo/907/Commercial-Budweiser_(Referee)So please, if people want to panic because we haven't had a recent release, I'm sorry. If people want to panic because OSG has broken a few things temporarily, I'm sorry. If I'm behind on my email, I'm sorry! FlightGear is in large part an engineering simulator and needs to track the best technology of today to stay current and stay useful. But there are a lot of competing needs and goals within this project. There will always be competing ideas and needs, there will always be tension and debate and friction. But that is good, that is how we get stronger and better. If there was zero friction, zero competing ideas, zero debate about anything, we'd probably be going no where useful. It's just important to remember to be patient and civil and recognize that a healthy debate is a good thing. Different ideas and different goals and different directions are a good thing. It's not always comfortable, but it's a critical element to our successful development. Curt.-- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Projecthttp://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/http://www.flightgear.orgUnique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] translucency in c172p propeller animation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is probably a silly question, but how does the Propeller.Fast animation for the default c172p end up being translucent? I can't the transparency in either the model's material or texture. Parts of the texture are translucent, but as far as I can see, not the texture for the prop. Thanks, Tim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFU1cmeDhWHdXrDRURApHyAJ44ZolKQds/nqc5f2Som5GPmYs/BgCgmkGE tNcGYhJACN0PvCYJ3Uo5L3M= =LPPw -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG update...
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 17:36 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Quoting George Patterson: On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 16:22 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Quoting George Patterson: On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:03 +, AJ MacLeod wrote: On Thursday 09 November 2006 10:33, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Don't you see these messages on Windows ? Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb Cannot find image file wherever is $FG_ROOT/FOO I saw problems loading texture, but from memory, the file names were the empty string except for the last that is caused by a panel declaration without backgroud texture. The chrome messages are related to the chrome shader effect which has not yet been implemented in the OSG version of FG. The Lightning shows the same messages (but suffers much more because practically the whole a/c skin uses that effect). The b1900d segfaults here with OSG (Linux x86). Hi All, The B1900d will also segfault on the OSG version (with 64bit libraries)on the AMD64 Architecture. nobody to post a backtrace ? -Fred -- Hi Fred, Sorry about that. See attached file (8.9kB) for backtrace. I'm not that familiar with gdb as far as getting the best output for a backtrace. Thanks George, I will try to look into that, but unfortunately, your OSG build has no debug information. -Fred Oops, Sorry.. In the middle of a debug build now. I'll get a debug backtrace to you as soon as I can. Regards George - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FW: JSBsim and low rpm engines (AN-2)
I never saw this one show up on the list, either ... -Original Message- From: Jon S. Berndt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:04 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] JSBsim and low rpm engines (AN-2) On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Berndt, Jon S wrote: Regarding low RPM engines: I'm not sure, but I think this has been addressed in the version of JSBSim that is in JSBSim CVS. Nope, it isn't. :P Joacim Persson Actually, yes, it is. Dave Culp submitted a change to *JSBSim* CVS on October 16 that had this change in it, among others: StarterHP = sqrt(MaxHP) * 0.2; The Starter HP is seen to be proportional to the square root of the max power of the engine. I agree that it would be good for the airplane flight model designer to be able to override this with his own value. That should be submitted to the Suggestions page (Feature Request) at the JSBSim web site. For more information on the changes that Dave made, see: http://tinyurl.com/ylwudf Jon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBsim and low rpm engines (AN-2)
В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 09:21 Jon S. Berndt написал(a): The philosophy behind our propulsion system is to provide a decent perception of propulsive forces applied to the aircraft - not an engineering simulation of an engine. With that said, improvements to the engine model are always something we are interested in. May I take some question? What is a parameter displacement in engine xml file? It tune heating of cylinder heat? There are dampers for change air flow, in air-cooled engine. How I can change cool degrees in JSBsim engine model? I write dampers gauges and handles for An-2 model, but I don't know how it apply to engine. Thanks! -- Wbr, Yurik Hi, Yurik: These might be questions to ask in the JSBSim developers list. Dave Luff developed our piston engine. I'll try to answer this, but Dave is the best one to ask. Jon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Mailing list problems
Is anyone else noticing any SourceForge mailing list problems? Jon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG update...
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 17:36 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Quoting George Patterson: On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 16:22 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Quoting George Patterson: On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:03 +, AJ MacLeod wrote: On Thursday 09 November 2006 10:33, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Don't you see these messages on Windows ? Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb Cannot find image file wherever is $FG_ROOT/FOO I saw problems loading texture, but from memory, the file names were the empty string except for the last that is caused by a panel declaration without backgroud texture. The chrome messages are related to the chrome shader effect which has not yet been implemented in the OSG version of FG. The Lightning shows the same messages (but suffers much more because practically the whole a/c skin uses that effect). The b1900d segfaults here with OSG (Linux x86). Hi All, The B1900d will also segfault on the OSG version (with 64bit libraries)on the AMD64 Architecture. nobody to post a backtrace ? -Fred -- Hi Fred, Sorry about that. See attached file (8.9kB) for backtrace. I'm not that familiar with gdb as far as getting the best output for a backtrace. Thanks George, I will try to look into that, but unfortunately, your OSG build has no debug information. -Fred Hi Fred, I have compiled the OSG,SimGear,Flightgear with the -g debug flag. Backtrace attached. Regards George $ gdb fgfs GNU gdb 6.4.90-debian Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as x86_64-linux-gnu...Using host libthread_db library /lib/libthread_db.so.1. (gdb) run --aircraft=b1900d The program being debugged has been started already. Start it from the beginning? (y or n) y Starting program: /usr/local/bin/fgfs --aircraft=b1900d [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 47174223195120 (LWP 25958)] [New Thread 1082636624 (LWP 25965)] Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome1.rgb Cannot find image file Aircraft/b1900d/Models/chrome.rgb [New Thread 1091029328 (LWP 25970)] Cannot find image file /usr/local/share/FlightGear/FOO Flight Director Check Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 47174223195120 (LWP 25958)] 0x2ae798382214 in osg::StateSet::runUpdateCallbacks (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34da8 ) at ../StateSet.cpp:1453 1453if (_updateCallback.valid()) (*_updateCallback)(this,nv); (gdb) backtrace full #0 0x2ae798382214 in osg::StateSet::runUpdateCallbacks (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34da8 ) at ../StateSet.cpp:1453 itr = Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34db0 (gdb) backtrace #0 0x2ae798382214 in osg::StateSet::runUpdateCallbacks (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34da8 ) at ../StateSet.cpp:1453 #1 0x004232a8 in osgUtil::UpdateVisitor::apply (this=0x60b5a80, node=value optimized out) at /usr/local/include/osgUtil/UpdateVisitor:74 #2 0x2ae798314fae in osg::Group::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34e58 ) at ../../../include/osg/Group:38 #3 0x2ae798313310 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34e78 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #4 0x2ae798314fae in osg::Group::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34eb8 ) at ../../../include/osg/Group:38 #5 0x2ae798313310 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34ed8 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #6 0x2ae7979d5665 in osg::NodeVisitor::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34f18 ) at ../../../include/osg/NodeVisitor:180 #7 0x2ae798331b00 in osg::NodeCallback::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a34f48 ) at ../NodeCallback.cpp:22 #8 0x008bcd4c in SGTranslateAnimation::operator() (this=0x499af20, node=0x49ac1b0, nv=0x60b5a80) at animation.cxx:699 #9 0x2ae79832f4ce in osg::MatrixTransform::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a35018 ) at ../../../include/osg/MatrixTransform:37 #10 0x2ae798313310 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a35038 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #11 0x2ae798314fae in osg::Group::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a35078 ) at ../../../include/osg/Group:38 #12 0x2ae79839329d in osg::Switch::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x800013a350a8 ) at ../Switch.cpp:40 #13 0x2ae7983948f2 in osg::Switch::accept
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mailing list problems
On Thursday 09 November 2006 14:01, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Is anyone else noticing any SourceForge mailing list problems? I'm not seeing my own posts now - I seem to get everything else OK though. And yes, I did check that the option was set to receive copies of my own messages (besides which, I always got them before and haven't changed anything there.) I can probably live without having to read my own drivel though :-) Cheers, AJ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] osg problem
hi, another problem with osg. i fly since KSFO with the AWACS and all views became black screen (i only show the popup widget with view name and the FPS) only one view not became black screen : the airport view, but ... take a look yourself regards -- Didier Fabert [EMAIL PROTECTED] KFreeFlight project : A FlightGear GUI-Frontend designed for KDE users http://kfreeflight.sourceforge.net attachment: fgfs-screen-019.jpg - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] web site hacked ?
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:15:27 +1300 Dene wrote: Hi Chris, What do you mean top-post, I thought the protocol was to edit the post you were replying to and post your comments either through out it or at the bottom? Yep, you got it; and it's what you did in the post I'm replying to here; but not the one I replied to before. No worries. PS thnx for the hint on getting to the site..works a treat Cool. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FW: JSBsim and low rpm engines (AN-2)
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006, Jon S. Berndt wrote: The engine stuff can't (at least for now) be removed from JSBSim, in theory or in principle. JSBSim is a drop-in dynamic library for flight dynamics, which includes all normally available subsystems that provide forces and/or moments on the aircraft. It can be run on its own without flightgear, or in other simulations/frameworks. Even if we wanted to remove the propulsion subsystem (which we don't), it would break other peoples' applications. I'm not suggesting it should be thrown away. (It probably covers 99% of the cases as it is.) I'm suggesting an optional external engine model: an interface. (With a proper object-oriented design that should be trivial to provide: wrapping it in an interface class) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] What does control gear/gear[0]/position-norm property in A-10?
I'd like to simply bind the press of a key to a custom animation (a rotation around an axis at a fixed speed, between two extreme positions, in both directions), can you point me to a simple/basic example? You can use the nasal interpolate function to do that if I understand you correctly. You can write a nasal function using interpolate to manipulate any property you want and call it from a keybinding (see for example the beaufighter gunsight door toggle functions.) Cheers, AJ Thank you AJ, that was the right hint :-) The beaufighter door animation is the one I needed, simple and effective. Now, I have a fully working rotate animation and proper key bindings. I have to point out the beaufighter toggle_cdoor function is not completely correct (it doesn't work right if you toggle the animation while the door is already rotating). I had to change it a little bit in order to get it at constant speed. But that was a very solid point to start from; now I know a little how to write such animation nasal scripts :-) I whish there were more NASAL tutorials around. cheers, Roberto - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] B1900d segfault...
Hi guys, Thanks for the input. Im afraid the backtrace is gibberish to me , but I'll take a closer look tonight... (on lunch break right now).The chrome texture error I ran into before when loading sub models / models from a different directory ... it appears it tries to find textures from the last directory it loaded a model from , should be easy to fix . Thanks for the tip about the /FOO message , I didn't think about the panels .Melchoir also mentioned some errors he gets from the nasal files , trying to sort that out , but I dont get error messages here , so I'm not sure if Ive fixed the problem . Personally I dont care about losing the eye candy with OSG , I do miss the clouds though. I did notice that strobe lights on my Bravo seem to be billboarded along the Z axis , at least it appeared that way when I could make them out . Hopefully I can fix the b1900d tonight , thanks again for the input . Cheers, Syd - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mailing list problems
On Thursday 09 November 2006 14:01, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Is anyone else noticing any SourceForge mailing list problems? I'm not seeing my own posts now - I seem to get everything else OK though. And yes, I did check that the option was set to receive copies of my own messages (besides which, I always got them before and haven't changed anything there.) I can probably live without having to read my own drivel though :-) Cheers, AJ I think you may have hit the nail on the head. That seems to be my problem, too - and on the JSBSim list. I need to update the SourceForge guys on this. Is everyone seeing all posts but their own, or just selected people? Jon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Hi, Martin Spott schrieb: One thing I'd like to have fixed before adding the aircraft to CVS is the VRP, the Visual Reference Point. This is the point that FDM and 3D model have to agree upon to be their common point of origin for all geometry related operations. With your AN-2, the FDM places the VRP close to (or maybe at, I don't know exactly) the center of lift whereas the 3D model has its VRP at the nose. The result is that, when you apply big movements to the elevator in flight, the aircraft rotates around its nose like a wagging dog tail. I think the 3D-Model and the FDM fit together, the model rotates around the c.g. (in air). The cause for the rotating around the nose is only the reference point, where the camera points to.I don't no if this point is defined in the xml file or in the .ac file, but it is not a mismatch between 3D Model and FDM. Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] What does control gear/gear[0]/position-norm property in A-10?
I whish there were more NASAL tutorials around. This page is a little out of date, but it should be linked to from wiki.flightgear.org (where there is lots more good information): http://plausible.org/nasal/flightgear.html It has reference docs on most of the core interface, but not the more elaborate nasal extensions; interpolate() is in there, for example. Andy - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph, feedback - on Fedora Core 6
Hi, I got everything compiled and did a short performance test compared between the CVS-Version of FlightGear with PLIB of 26th, October and yesterdays OSG release: With the options --timeofday=noon --prop:/sim/rendering/fps-display=true --bpp=32 both versions show almost the same rate of fps with a small advantage to OSG about 1 to 10 percent. If I increase screen size to 1280x1024 --timeofday=noon --prop:/sim/rendering/fps-display=true --bpp=32 --geometry=1280x1024 OSG shows about 5 to 20 percent higher fps then the PLIB version. My frame rates are between 80 and 100 fps (Athlon64 4000+, GeForce 6600 GT and 2GB Memory). Matthias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] memory usage of AI-Models (multiplayer particularly)
Hi, I was thinking about he memory usage of the aircrafts. As multiplayer mode becomes more and more popular, more aircrafts are loaded into memory. If any AI-aircraft is not loaded directly from the Aircraft folder, but first from an AI-Aircraft folder and only if the aircraft isn't found there, the aircraft is loaded from the Aircraft folder, the memory usage can be minimized. We only have to copy the aircrafts with huge memory usage to this folder and rescale the textures (and maybe replace the .ac files by lower polygon versions). Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph, feedback - on Fedora Core 6
Matthias Boerner wrote: With the options --timeofday=noon --prop:/sim/rendering/fps-display=true --bpp=32 both versions show almost the same rate of fps with a small advantage to OSG about 1 to 10 percent. Ah, I guess nobody tried running at higher display depths, anybody ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph, feedback - on Fedora Core 6
Martin Spott schrieb: Matthias Boerner wrote: With the options --timeofday=noon --prop:/sim/rendering/fps-display=true --bpp=32 both versions show almost the same rate of fps with a small advantage to OSG about 1 to 10 percent. Ah, I guess nobody tried running at higher display depths, anybody ? Martin. All my reports I already did (with *much lower* framerates on OSG) are for 1280x1024 with 32bit (--prop:sim/current-gui=1 --enable-game-mode --geometry=1280x1024 --bpp=32) Regards Georg EDDW - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] A-10 and OSG back trace
Hi, Another back trace with latest OSG package and fresh cvs on linux AMD64. Problem: A-10 segfaults at startup. Hope it helps. Alexis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/fgfs$ gdb /usr/local/bin/fgfs GNU gdb 6.4-debian Copyright 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as x86_64-linux-gnu...Using host libthread_db library /lib/libthread_db.so.1. (gdb) run --fg-root=/usr/local/share/games/fgfs/data --aircraft=A-10 Starting program: /usr/local/bin/fgfs --fg-root=/usr/local/share/games/fgfs/data --aircraft=A-10 [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread 46912558838016 (LWP 9833)] [New Thread 1082636640 (LWP 9836)] [New Thread 1091029344 (LWP 9837)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 46912558838016 (LWP 9833)] 0x2bdd37e7 in osg::StateSet::runUpdateCallbacks (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cc28 ) at ../StateSet.cpp:1453 1453if (_updateCallback.valid()) (*_updateCallback)(this,nv); (gdb) bt #0 0x2bdd37e7 in osg::StateSet::runUpdateCallbacks (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cc28 ) at ../StateSet.cpp:1453 #1 0x004224c2 in osgUtil::UpdateVisitor::apply (this=0x68dc540, node=value optimized out) at UpdateVisitor:74 #2 0x2bd62768 in osg::Group::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5ccf8 ) at ../../../include/osg/Group:38 #3 0x2bd60910 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cd18 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #4 0x2bd62768 in osg::Group::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cd58 ) at ../../../include/osg/Group:38 #5 0x2bd60910 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cd78 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #6 0x2bd62768 in osg::Group::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cdb8 ) at ../../../include/osg/Group:38 #7 0x2bd60910 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cdd8 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #8 0x2bd62768 in osg::Group::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5ce18 ) at ../../../include/osg/Group:38 #9 0x2bde29b3 in osg::Switch::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5ce48 ) at ../Switch.cpp:40 #10 0x2bde4a72 in osg::Switch::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5ce98 ) at ../../../include/osg/Switch:36 #11 0x2bd6cbe5 in osg::LOD::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cee8 ) at ../LOD.cpp:77 #12 0x2b40cd73 in osg::NodeVisitor::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cf58 ) at ../../../include/osg/NodeVisitor:180 #13 0x2bd7f308 in osg::NodeCallback::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cf88 ) at ../NodeCallback.cpp:22 #14 0x2bd6df7a in osg::LOD::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cfa8 ) at ../../../include/osg/LOD:44 #15 0x2bd60910 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5cfc8 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #16 0x2b40cd73 in osg::NodeVisitor::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d008 ) at ../../../include/osg/NodeVisitor:180 #17 0x2bd7f308 in osg::NodeCallback::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d038 ) at ../NodeCallback.cpp:22 #18 0x0081abef in SGMaterialAnimation::operator() (this=0x49b7cf0, node=0x49b7f70, nv=0x68dc540) at animation.cxx:1248 #19 0x2bd62768 in osg::Group::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d0e8 ) at ../../../include/osg/Group:38 #20 0x2bd60910 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d108 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #21 0x2bd7cd04 in osg::MatrixTransform::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d148 ) at ../../../include/osg/MatrixTransform:37 #22 0x2bd60910 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d168 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #23 0x2bd7cd04 in osg::MatrixTransform::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d1a8 ) at ../../../include/osg/MatrixTransform:37 #24 0x2bde29b3 in osg::Switch::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d1d8 ) at ../Switch.cpp:40 #25 0x2bde4a72 in osg::Switch::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d228 ) at ../../../include/osg/Switch:36 #26 0x2bd60910 in osg::Group::traverse (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d248 ) at ../Group.cpp:62 #27 0x2bd7cd04 in osg::MatrixTransform::accept (this=Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffd5d288 ) at ../../../include/osg/MatrixTransform:37 #28
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Mailing list problems
Hello FlightGear, On Thursday 09 November 2006 14:01, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Is anyone else noticing any SourceForge mailing list problems? I'm not seeing my own posts now - I seem to get everything else OK though. And yes, I did check that the option was set to receive copies of my own messages (besides which, I always got them before and haven't changed anything there.) I can probably live without having to read my own drivel though :-) Cheers, AJ I think you may have hit the nail on the head. That seems to be my problem, too - and on the JSBSim list. I need to update the SourceForge guys on this. Is everyone seeing all posts but their own, or just selected people? Jon I too am having this problem and not just with the FlightGear lists. I've also noticed a problem when I attempt to update globally changes I make that should be applied to more than one of my mailing list subscriptions. Hope this helps. -- Best regards, Magus - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Maik Justus wrote: I think the 3D-Model and the FDM fit together, the model rotates around the c.g. (in air). The cause for the rotating around the nose is only the reference point, where the camera points to. I took the AN-2 for a ride at very low altitude along a shoreline in order to have a visual reference. Actually I came to a different conclusion, but, hey, we'll be able to fix this later if required :-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Last new OSG version - better framerates
Hi, I just did some further tests with the LAST NEW OSG version from Mathias and GOOD NEWS, really improved framerates (test details as already reported, not important for now as same for old OSG/ new OSG version): Old OSG Last, new OSG KSFO, runway start 4662 KSFO, short after takeoff 5069 KSFO, crossing terminals4555 (only short decreased, variable to higher rates) Ok, this has already been reported by another member of the list (sorry, don't remember who it was) and I can confirm. The OSG rates cannot catch up to PLIB until now but the difference is much smaller, especially during normal flight. The object-loading procedure is still the weak point but I am sure Mathias will do further improvements! Regards Georg, EDDW - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Last new OSG version - better framerates
Has anyone built this on Windows XP under Cygwin, yet? Jon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Last new OSG version - better framerates
Hi Georg, very good new. Thanks to Mathias for this improvement. Maik Georg Vollnhals schrieb: Hi, I just did some further tests with the LAST NEW OSG version from Mathias and GOOD NEWS, really improved framerates (test details as already reported, not important for now as same for old OSG/ new OSG version): - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
Hi Yurik, Yurik V. Nikiforoff wrote: This is legendary Russian aircraft. First flight was 1947. This is port of MSFS model by Anton Nikolaev aka Xomer. Published under GPL with his permission. Some of the CVS commit messages are still on their way, but in theory the model should now be part of the FlightGear CVS base package. Thanks a lot to Anton and you for providing this detailed aircraft to us. We'll see if there really remain details to fix. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBsim and low rpm engines (AN-2)
Jon S. Berndt wrote: В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 09:21 Jon S. Berndt написал(a): The philosophy behind our propulsion system is to provide a decent perception of propulsive forces applied to the aircraft - not an engineering simulation of an engine. With that said, improvements to the engine model are always something we are interested in. May I take some question? What is a parameter displacement in engine xml file? It tune heating of cylinder heat? There are dampers for change air flow, in air-cooled engine. How I can change cool degrees in JSBsim engine model? I write dampers gauges and handles for An-2 model, but I don't know how it apply to engine. Thanks! -- Wbr, Yurik Hi, Yurik: These might be questions to ask in the JSBSim developers list. Dave Luff developed our piston engine. I'll try to answer this, but Dave is the best one to ask. Jon Hi Yurik, Jon, Displacement is the swept volume of the cylinders, eg. 1.6 litres for a 1.6 litre auto engine. I'm working from memory right now, but the cylinder temperature model is a simple 1D lumped capacity model IIRC, dependent on the rate of heat generation within the engine and the rate of airflow over it. I tuned it so that the C172 would get into the red on the guage if climbed out at max power mixture, but would stay in the green if the mixture was set rich for climb, but I don't think the CHT guage made it onto the panel by default, so the model has had no TLC or feedback over the years. If the displacement is an input, then I suspect it was an attempt to non-dimensionalise engine size within the model, to make it valid for any similar piston engine. I'll take a look and try and be more helpful... Cheers - Dave - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Artificial horizon behavior
After performing hard turns (probably harder than a real Cessna could endure...) at close to or exceeding 90 degrees of bank the artificial horizon goes wonkers and doesn't right itself. http://remington.homelinux.net/fgfs-instrument.jpg I've observed this behavior in 0.9.10 as well as CVS using the c172p. Does anyone else see this? Am I missing something obvious? Besides not doing aerobatics in a Cessna 172, I mean. ;) On another note: I am seeing much better frame rates using OSG, going from 12 to 27 at default startup. Linux x86 Radeon 9500 Thanks to all the hard working developers for a free flight sim! -- William Riley Linux Administrator Scottrade, Inc. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear OSG build problem
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:48:51 -0600 Curtis Olson wrote: For what it's worth. The full screen (game) mode of freeglut (any version) is horribly broken under unix. Debian's package of freeglut is an exception to this -- the various freeglut problems that have manifested themselves in fgfs have been fixed with local patches. I've been using freeglut 2.4 with no problems at all for a very long time. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Artificial horizon behavior
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:48:37 -0600 William Riley wrote: After performing hard turns (probably harder than a real Cessna could endure...) at close to or exceeding 90 degrees of bank the artificial horizon goes wonkers and doesn't right itself. http://remington.homelinux.net/fgfs-instrument.jpg I've observed this behavior in 0.9.10 as well as CVS using the c172p. Does anyone else see this? Am I missing something obvious? Besides not doing aerobatics in a Cessna 172, I mean. ;) I'm pretty sure that's intentional -- real artificial horizons do that -- and some effort was put into making it do so. It should correct after a little while. See: http://mail.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-devel/2003-July/019377.html -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Antonov AN-2 ready for download
В сообщении от 9 Ноябрь 2006 20:13 Martin Spott написал(a): With your AN-2, the FDM places the VRP close to (or maybe at, I don't know exactly) the center of lift whereas the 3D model has its VRP at the nose. Hmmm... VRP stay at 0,0,0 - you may see it at an2.xml. 3D model shifted (by 6.2 m by X ) to this point in an2-model.xml. Imho, both points is right, cause: If there is mismatch between ref points, rotation of model will wrong, you are right. I spend many times for tune center of rotation. Main reason was wrong position of long parts, outstanding from fuselage, for example, gears. If refs point was wrong, gear was sink under ground, when craft begin rotation. I remove this effect (by put ref point to right place), but there is small mismatch - you can see it, look to gear on landing. May be, it shoul be tuned more carefully... The result is that, when you apply big movements to the elevator in flight, the aircraft rotates around its nose like a wagging dog tail. Airplane rotated around his center of gravity. It is near the nose, you are right, but it's right. FDM count CG at 160' from nose. You can open MSFS, load this model (there is link about original model in xml files), open payload menu and look at graphic. In another sim, CG will near the nose too. -- Wbr, Yurik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear OSG build problem
On 11/9/06, Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian's package of freeglut is an exception to this -- the variousfreeglut problems that have manifested themselves in fgfs have beenfixed with local patches.I've been using freeglut 2.4 with noproblems at all for a very long time. Really? You can do full screen with no window manager adornments? It doesn't screw up the requested resolution and give you a weird screen and then leave you in the wrong resolution? If that's the case then the debian guys need to get their patches in upstream! If you are just running opengl in a window freeglut has always been fine ... (except for the cursor problem in v2.4)Regards,Curt.-- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear OSG build problem
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:48:59 -0600 Curtis Olson wrote: Really? You can do full screen with no window manager adornments? It doesn't screw up the requested resolution and give you a weird screen and then leave you in the wrong resolution? Yeah, it works absolutely fine in fullscreen/game-mode. If that's the case then the debian guys need to get their patches in upstream! I don't know what the deal is there. When I look in the changelog for the Debian package, the only thing I see in there right now that seems relevant is a patch to fix the glutSetCursor bug. It was posted in response to this bug, which references fgfs: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=334446sourceid=mozilla-search and included in the Debian version. Why this might not have made it upstream, I dunno. But I don't think that's what prevents game-mode/fullscreen for most freeglut 2.4 users, is it? Something must be different, though, because like I said, it works absolutely fine for me. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear signature.asc Description: PGP signature - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Problems using Scroll Wheel on a standard win32 Installation of FlightGear
I have spent many hours trying to get my Scroll wheel to work with some key functions in FlightGear, (i.e. Such as control of the Harrier Thrust Vector Nossels in FG) it seems that FG cannot see the Scroll wheel,I am not a programmer but I thought the following information might help with future releases of fg at least in windows version's. Considering it took me all night to find this document I hope someone can find it of use? http://blogs.sun.com/alanc/date/20040716 It seems that the Scroll wheel is not seen because it is not mapped to a button id, it uses a Z Value instead? According to the above document the wheel motion can be adapted to a button function but this requires some knowledge on registry editing and im not feeling competent enough to tackle this as it looks rather complex. Maybe someone can make a windows registry patch file for users like myself who are stuck? Regards, Aerotro - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Build problem
Downloaded a fresh CVS copy to try out the updates to the OSG port. An earlier first attempt built and segfaulted when loading the c172. After getting the fresh tar file I casually blew away the earlier version and untarred the fresh one. Now when starting the build sequence with autogen.sh it complains about a missing configure.ac file.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/FlightGear$ ./autogen.sh Host info: Linux i686 automake: 1.9.5 (19) Running aclocal aclocal: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required Running autoheader autoheader: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required ERROR: autoheader didn't create simgear/simgear_config.h.in! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/FlightGear$ I don't recall this happening on the first go-around or if it did what I did to fix it or if I just got lucky. The file is definitely missing. About the only strange, quirky thing is that when untarring the file, getting a warning msg regards time stamp set to the epoch on some of the files. Am I grabbing a wrong copy? Using the developers hyper-link to get the tarball. Also I don't have CVS set up on this machine, but don't believe that is an absolute requirement to get the latest copy. tar: FlightGear/utils/fgadmin/src: implausibly old time stamp 1969-12-31 16:00:00 . . tar: FlightGear/utils/fgadmin/visualc/fgadmin: implausibly old time stamp 1969-12-31 16:00:00 tar: FlightGear/utils/fgadmin/visualc: implausibly old time stamp 1969-12-31 16:00:00 tar: FlightGear/utils/fgadmin: implausibly old time stamp 1969-12-31 16:00:00 And so forth... Hmmm, is the command aborting before all the files have been untarred which is why the configure.ac file is missing? Any suggestions?? Regards John W - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear OSG build problem
Chris Metzler wrote: Debian's package of freeglut is an exception to this -- the various freeglut problems that have manifested themselves in fgfs have been fixed with local patches. I've been using freeglut 2.4 with no problems at all for a very long time. Hmmm, when I look at the Debian 3.1 installation on my AMD64 machine, it tells me: jive:~# dpkg -l | grep -i freeglut ii freeglut3 2.2.0-8OpenGL Utility Toolkit ii freeglut3-dev 2.2.0-8OpenGL Utility Toolkit development files Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build problem
John Wojnaroski wrote: Downloaded a fresh CVS copy to try out the updates to the OSG port. [...] About the only strange, quirky thing is that when untarring the file, getting a warning msg regards time stamp set to the epoch on some of the files. Am I grabbing a wrong copy? Using the developers hyper-link to get the tarball. Also I don't have CVS set up on this machine, but don't believe that is an absolute requirement to get the latest copy. tar: FlightGear/utils/fgadmin/src: implausibly old time stamp 1969-12-31 16:00:00 If you don't have CVS on that machine, where do get the sources from. Looks a bit like one computer in the chaion has incorrect system time, this is not unlikely to break an auto-tooled and make-based build chain. NTP is your friend: http://www.pool.ntp.org/ Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel