Re: fixit floppy contents?
Andy Dills wrote: Is there a standard way of installing complete filesystem images onto existing machines via the network, for example using dump, restore, nfs, and boot floppies? I want to upgrade our mail server cluster from 4-STABLE to 6-STABLE, and there is so much that goes into the mail server setup... postfix/amavisd-new/clamav/SA/Razor2/DCC/FuzzyOcr all chrooted, that's a lot of port installing and lib copying I don't feel like doing. I've got an image of the 6-STABLE box I'm happy with and I want to be able to serve it via NFS, then go through the cluster booting on (hopefully) the fixit floppy, format the disks and restore the image over nfs, edit some confs, and boot it and away it goes in a fraction of the time it would take to go from scratch with each. I'm not sure what tools the fixit floppy has. Anybody done anything like this before? Thanks, Andy I would look at FreeSBIE or some other LiveCD. It should not be to difficult to boot from a CD, do the needed disk and network setup and then simply pull the images from a server somewhere. Or just do a dump on the finished server, and pipe it to a local restore over ssh. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing from a harddisk prepared in a functional system
Steve Franks wrote: How does one make a 'boot' disk - be it cdrom, harddrive or flash (presuming your bios will boot from all those devices, of course)? 1.The handbook specifies you need to minimally copy the /bin folder to the destination. 2. Obviously you want a valid ufs2 partition. 3. I've repeatedly tried setting the 'bootable' option in fdisk, and the 'A' appears next to the slice, but everytime I reboot it dissappears, even after a 'W' command, so I'm going to try to get this to go without using sysinstall by a manual copy, if I can. 4. Windows partitions need some special files, i.e. ntldr, at a special location on the boot partiton - equivalent in bsd? Or does the loader just look for /bin and load the kernel from there? 5. bootloader seems to work when I put the disk in the new computer - get F1 and F2, but nothing else happens. Basically I'm trying to make an 'image' - put a fresh disk in my working system, format it, make it boot, at least to sysinstall, so I can put it in my other system that has no floppy or cdrom to install from, and get things rolling over the network card. I was thinking I could just do this with a single partition on the target disk, like the install cdrom's do. I want to turn a harddisk into an install cdrom, and then have it install to itself, a dangerous idea, no doubt, but it appears that it could work, I just can't get the new disk to boot in the new system. Thanks, Steve Is there a reason why you can't finish the installation on your working system, and then move the disk to the new machine and just boot your newly installed system? -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports collection issue
Lane wrote: Adrian, Use /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui and create a cvsupfile. You can then selectively install src-all, src-contrib, ports-all and any of the various ports sub-trees that you need (but stick with ports-all). cvsup will get the proper Makefiles and whatnot for you. Email me if you need help setting that up. lane I would recommend using csup instead of cvsup. It has fewer dependencies, is very lightweight and works very well if you just want to occasionally checkout ports or src. I believe that csup is also part of the basesystem in newer releases. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ports collection issue
Andy Greenwood wrote: Is it possible to use csup with my existing cvsup files? I skimmed the man page and it looks very similar. Is there any advantage to using cvsup over csup? I use the same files for csup as I used for cvsup. You should not have to change anything except removing the 'v' after the 'c' in 'cvsup' on the command-line. :) Csup is basically cvsup rewritten in C instead of Modula-3. While cvsup is an excellent program that certainly makes exactly what it was designed to do, it unfortunately has some dependencies that are not common on most installations. I do not know of any advantages that cvsup might have over csup, more then the fact that it is a thoroughly tested program that has performed well for several years, while csup is a relatively new program. AFAIK there has not been any reports of problem with csup though, so I would say its safe to use. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCI Wireless Card?
Norberto Meijome wrote: On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:48:17 -0400 E. J. Cerejo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking to buy a PCI Wireless Card for my computer, I'm running FBSD 6.1 release, from what I understand there are only two drivers ath and wi what about ralink ? man 4 ral i'm sure there are other wireless drivers available in src... I have a card using the ral driver, but it has been far from stable. I've experienced various problems the last few releases, and after upgrading to 6.2-PRERELEASE, any attempt to run ifconfig on this card gives a kernel panic. I've not done any serious attempts at troubleshooting this since I don't really need the card. I believe the card was branded Bay Networks something something, I could check that up if anyone wants to know. rambo# uname -a FreeBSD rambo.401.cx 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #2: Sun Oct 1 04:54:40 CEST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RAMBO i386 rambo# grep ^ral /var/run/dmesg.boot ral0: Ralink Technology RT2500 irq 18 at device 13.0 on pci0 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2560 (rev 0x04), RF RT2525 ral0: Ethernet address: 00:11:50:15:71:94 ral0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail to root
jekillen wrote: Hello again; I have a question about how mail from the system is generated for root. This question was prompted when I edited the Postfix aliases file and ran newaliases, then did postfix reload, assuming the mail system was running. I was informed that Postfix was not running. So the question, how does mail generated by the system get delivered to the root account? Here is my motive: I have a server that I want to run headless. I want to be able to retrieve mail to root from another machine via ssh login (on the same private net work number/netmask 255.255.255.0). I cannot login to the system as root over ssh. I don't know if I can read root mail with su (as wheel group member). I tried this but maybe I'm not using the appropriate parameter. Or maybe there isn't any. I don't know where to look for an answer to this question, other than this knowledgeable group.Oh, man mail maybe? Thanks in advance Jeff K I suggest you use .forward to get root's mail to another account. As root, do this: echo username /root/.forward That should forward root's mail to whatever username you specified. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
Olivier Nicole wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... 6 days later: Thailand jumped from 12 machines to 110... ahead of France and Australia. This is a long shot, but couldn't it just be that a portal or usergroup of some kind started promoting bsdstats? Lets say a BSD usergroup in Thailand posted a notice on the first page about bsdstats. The usergroup has 200 visitors a day and half of them decides to follow the advice and install bsdstats. That would explain the sudden burst of 100 machines. Another plausible explanation is that an administrator of some network with 100 or so workstations or servers decided to push out bsdstats as a nightly upgrade or similar. It does not seem totally impossible to me, alltough I would not base any major decision on those figures without checking them first. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Foreign language posts (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;()
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Maybe it's just me but the idea of a bunch of English speakers sitting around and debating whether or not to permit foreign languages on the mailing list is a bit like a bunch of men sitting around and debating whether or not to legalize abortion. It's an issue that so obviously does not affect the discussors that it's incredible any of them would believe it possibly affects them in any way whatsoever. Ted Why is that? Because we have put down the effort of learning the de facto standard language on the internet, we no longer may have an opinion about the ones that haven't? Or did you just assume that everyone who speaks english is from an english-speaking country? I'm swedish. I (naturally) prefer to speak swedish. But, I speak 2 other languages without problems and can make myself understood in a few more. Still, I would never dream of posting to a mailinglist in any other language then english, unless otherwise requested. There are plenty of mailinglists and supportforums available in almost every language you can imagine. There is no need to increase the noise on @questions with posts that perhaps 1 or 2 percent of the subscribers can understand. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
Miguel Saturnino wrote: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 07:34 -0800, Danial Thom wrote: Well, that's your opinion. For me, FreeBSD is a much better desktop than Windows -- it runs solid and fast and enables me to be more productive in my work. Of course, what is good for me might not be so good for someone else, I guess it depends on your needs. Some Linux distros are much easier to setup than FreeBSD, so they might be a more recommendable desktop for someone with less technical knowledge. Ever tried DesktopBSD (www.desktopbsd.org) or PcBSD (www.pcbsd.org)? Unless the Linux-distros provides you with a geek that does the installation for you, I can possible see how they could be easier to setup. Yes, you talk about FreeBSD, but after all both DesktopBSD and PcBSD are basically just preconfigured and pre-packaged versions of FreeBSD. For anyone looking for a BSD-based desktop OS, I highly recommend the two mentioned above. I was surprised to see how extremely userfriendly they were despite being relatively new projects. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Simon Burke wrote: [snip] 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being ugly. Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to do. Also i actually like how it looks. A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the problem. Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to have today. But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to improve the website. Why? Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming towards the nearest linux advocate instead. We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it! [snip] 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead available to all that support this project. I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont understand Clearly, you have not tried to sell FreeBSD to a big corporation. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM To: Simon Burke Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? Simon Burke wrote: [snip] 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being ugly. Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to do. Also i actually like how it looks. A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the problem. Roger I understand the problem, I wrote a book on FreeBSD integration in 2000. The problem is I think you don't understand the problem. Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to have today. That frankly isn't the reason you should like it. You should like it because it works better than most commercial operating systems let alone most operating systems. The reason? Like there was only one reason to like an os? I like FreeBSD due to its lack of bells and whistles, but I also like it due to its stability, performance, ease of use and license, among many other reasons. Maybe I should have made that more clear, I do not wish to come across as a guy that favours an os based on one reason alone. But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to improve the website. Why? Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming towards the nearest linux advocate instead. Most of the CEO's I've dealt with don't give a shit on a shingle about a product website. What they care about is: 'can what I need done be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me in to you' I think we have a missunderstanding here. I already work for a big corporation. When I said that I was trying to sell FreeBSD, I meant that I was trying to get the company that I work for to chose FreeBSD over some other product. Im not a consultant of any kind, Im a fulltime employed technician trying to keep my employers network up and running. FreeBSD meets criteria A and B really well but it does not meet C. Linux meets A and B but BARELY meets C. Windows definitely meets C and usually meets B and doesen't usually meet A. The problem of course is that A and C are related. If I am a CEO and I sign a FreeBSD or Linux deal - and you are a sole-source provider, then once I have all my business processes into you, I'm locked into you. Once that happens my thought processes are that your going to become very expensive to me - why, because there's no competition to you out there. I'm not going to do that unless I trust you implicitly. And there's very few business people I am ever going to trust implicitly, save perhaps unless your a son or daughter, and even then I may not. You have to understand of course that this is old-school knee-jerk thinking. The CEO's are scared to death of you Roger. They don't understand what your selling, they don't understand how to integrate technology into their systems, they don't even understand their current system. As I explained earlier, Im not selling anything. We are several technicians at my company, some of us prefer BSD while others prefer linux, windows, sun or whatever the flavour of the day is. Everytime we get a new bunch of servers or a new task needs to be done, there is a religious war before we decide what os to use. Most of the time, the board wants a say in decisions like this, and BSD almost always loses this, due to a very unproffesional image. Since the company already has the expertise inhouse, the hardware has been ordered and everything is paid, they dont give a shit about price. When I tell them that BSD can do everything they want and do it good, they listen. When I tell them that its free, they listen but they dont really care. When the linux guys makes exactly the same claims and also is able to back
Re: Explaining FreeBSD features
Fafa Hafiz Krantz wrote: *snip* FreeBSD is a typical system driven by technical people. Clearly its weakest point. Once again, that depends on your audience. If you ask me, its one of FreeBSD's strongest points. Im one of those technical people, and the main reason I like BSD is that its not dumbed down. It does require atleast a minimal amount of clue, and it does not take for granted that the user is an idiot. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not...
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Scott I. Remick writes: A better realworld example (which has been mentioned before) is www.sendmail.org vs. www.sendmail.com. I think that better reflects what people are suggesting for www.freebsd.com. Agreed! Although both sites actually aim at similar markets, since sendmail is not really something that anyone would use anywhere except on a server. (Nobody runs sendmail on a desktop, strictly speaking.) They both aim at exactly the same market, but different personalities. While sendmail.org aims at the more technical people, usually the ones that will actually run the software, sendmail.com aims for the directors, the ones that make the decision to run it. Our current freebsd.org website is perfect for the first category, but believe me, it scares the shit out of the higher management kind of people. Argue all you want that people like that should not be allowed to make such decisions, I've seen it happen and Im sure it happens all the time. So far, I have not seen one single valid argument against a freebsd.com website or a new logo, so I side with the people that wants some changes to happen in this one. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not...
Chris Zumbrunn wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: So far, I have not seen one single valid argument against a freebsd.com website or a new logo, so I side with the people that wants some changes to happen in this one. Well, if you put it that bluntly, let me disagree with you :-) If you look at the current freebsd.org website, you see a logo on top, a navigation bar on the left, news on the right and a large area in the middle that is reserved exclusively for advocacy content. There is nothing wrong with that concept and it can serve well as the main web page for both those that serve on a board of directors and those that are bored of directors. Yes, the design needs a face lift. That can be done without compromising usability. Yes, the navigation could be streamlined and should list sections such as white papers, success stories and solution guides. That stuff just needs to be produced! Without that it exists you can't link to it from the front page. Yes, the news should be more frequent and comprehensive. You can't report what isn't happening. More should be written about FreeBSD and links to new articles should be collected and updated daily. Yes, the advocacy content should be much more exciting and professional. There is a large need for lots of high quality advocacy content including white papers, statistics, market research, graphics, success stories, business cases, etc. All that just needs to be produced. None of the above will get accomplished by splitting the site in two. All of the above needs to be done either way. Changing the design of freebsd.org/freebsd.com is easy. The hard work is creating all the content that needs to go behind it. I advocate changes, you disagree with me, and then you list a lot of points that should be changed? Im having difficulties with your logic here. :) All of your points are valid, there are so many things that would improve FreeBSD's image with just a little tweaking. However, everytime I've tried to suggest even the slightest change to freebsd.org, people has started to kick and scream and preach about the end of the OS as we know it. Therefor I have abandoned every hope of ever make freebsd.org evolve, and instead joined the advocates of a user-friendly freebsd.com website. Personally, Im backing out of this discussion now. I would love to see something happen, but there is a limit to how much resistance and stubbornes a man can take. Everytime this kind of discussion has come up, I've tried my best to support any attempts of actually making something happen, but the incredible amount of resistance we always meet has made me question if its worth it. Until core or atleast a group of committers *make* something happen, I doubt anything will change. If you go ahead and try to change freebsd.org, I wish you the best of luck. The brickwall you are about to bang youre head against is very hard. ;) -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!!
Bart Silverstrim wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 2:18 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt writes: That is so not true that it makes me almost as angry as the original debate. Maybe getting angry about a mere logo is a bad sign. Just to sum up things as I understand it... People want to change the logo from Beastie to something else because Beastie isn't professional enough, so some committers decided to hold a contest for a new logo? Not really. Someone found a draft of a document suggesting a contest, that was not meant to be published (yet?) and then all hell broke loss. Out of curiosity, is Beastie so terrible, a logo, that a business would be stupid enough to base their server decisions based on it? Would you care if a business were that dumb...would you actually *want* them using it? Its not that simple. Several times I have seen very intelligent and competent administrators that would love to run BSD be forced to install linux just because the management of their company liked linux better. A business is rarely stupid, but the people that run the business may often have their priorities messed up. Someone said people change logos all the time. That's flat out wrong. When a company spends mucho dinero on marketing their logo, they don't just flip around and decide to change their logo that they spent so much money and time getting mindshare with. Have any examples of logos that have constantly changed? As posten elsewhere in this thread: http://www.bellsystemmemorial.com/bell_logos.html Times and trends change, companies that wants to survive do to. Windows' logo isn't even a logo. It's a flag of a window pane falling apart in the breeze. I associate windows with broken glass. These things don't seem to hinder Windows from getting massive market share. Since when did FreeBSD, a project always driven by volunteers and not by commercial matters, suddenly gain a marketing department that is trying to steer FreeBSD into the business sector? Is FreeBSD starting to have marketing dictate technology instead of technology dictate marketing? I sincerely hope not. But superior technology does not mean we cant be good at marketing too. And seriously, would FreeBSD suffer from a better logo? Would it make it less technology driven? Even if the logo was picture of someones ass, I would still use FreeBSD. If the logo was a superior and beatiful incarnation of everything a logo should be, that would not change my mind either. Or is this all some sneaky way of saying that Beastie is too much like the Devil and this new logo contest is a way to slip out the connotative Beastie with some other more politically correct symbol, like the drive in American classrooms for Intelligent Design to be taught in science classes (It's not Creationism! It's not Creationism! It's *science*...) There are so many reasons beside religious ones why Beastie is a bad logo I dont even know where to start. It looks bad in print. Its expensive to print. It does not look like something an advanced OS would use as logo. Its hard to reproduce. On the other hand, its almost perfect as a mascot, which is a very different thing from a logo. Just asking, since I was largely ignoring the thread but got curious after so MANY posts were made about the topic. Seems to be a hot topic. Which it wouldnt be if 90% of the posters to this thread didnt missunderstand the whole idea. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not...
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:26 AM To: Chris Zumbrunn Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not... However, everytime I've tried to suggest even the slightest change to freebsd.org, people has started to kick and scream and preach about the end of the OS as we know it. I have never kicked and screamed about changes to the website layout or such, as long as we don't get rid of the recognizable logos on it. As far as Im concerned, there are no logos on the website. There is a mascot, but no logo. This, it seems, is a matter of opinion. What I and others have always said when someone like you comes along is that you should go for it. Put up a prototype website, it's a free country. Let us look at it. If it's better then the doc people will welcome your efforts on it. 'Better' would be a matter of opinion. It would also depend on how you define a good website. For technical people looking for documentation, the current website is very good. For marketing purposes, it sucks. Eventough it is possible to combine the two, I advocate the separated .org/.com solution, simply because the target audiences have very different needs. You, clearly belonging in the technical category, refuses to complement Beastie with a more proffesional logo, something I think is necessary to satisfy the second category. Hence, a separate site for marketing people seems to be a necessity. Generally when we say this people like you complaining about the website disappear when they realize they are going to have to put their labor where their mouths are. If someone points out that something needs improvements, but they are unable to improve it themselves, does this mean that the need for improvement does not exist? Im not a website designer nor a marketing droid, but Im still able to see that FreeBSD could need improvement in these areas. If I could contribute, I would, but I fear that anything I could design would not even beat what we have today. This does not mean that the current website is unbeatable, it just means that I suck at webdesigning. If I could contribute in other ways, I would. Im more then willing to contribute financially and technically, its just that money and technical skills alone will not make a website. So bye bye. Ted Bye. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!!
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Garance A Drosehn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 1:59 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such as NetBSD!!! And frankly, most FreeBSD commiters do not read the -advocacy or -questions mailing lists (I never read advocacy, for instance). So maybe only three or four committers have explicitly expressed support for a LOGO CONTEST. Are you just too dense to understand that supporting a logo contest automatically implies that you are unsatisfied with the current logo? If you like Beastie why on earth would you want a contest to replace him? I like Beastie! I wear shirts with Beastie! I have a 45cm tall sticker of Beastie on the front of my fridge, clearly visible to anyone that enters my appartment. I have Powered by FreeBSD stickers sporting Beastie on my laptop. I have Beastie as screensaver and as desktop background. Still, Im not to dense to realize that there is a need for a new logo. You, on the other hand, seem to be to dense* to realize the difference between a logo and a mascot. For the last time, it is not the contest that I and others are objecting to. It is what you intend to do with the results of the contest - that is, replace Beastie. Not replace. Complement. Some people would be extremely helped by a more proffesional looking logo. Therefor, the idea was put forward to complement Beastie with a logo useable in the commercial world. (Actually, the idea was never presented, it was drafted and then leaked before finished). This would mean that the people that likes Beastie can continue using it, while the people needing a more proffesional logo would also see their needs fullfilled. However, some people does not need a new logo, and they seem to fight furiously to stop a change that basically would not affect them at all. I simply fail to understand their stand in this. -- R * When I call you dense I do not seriously mean to question your intelligence. I respect you as the author of a very good book and I value your contributions to the community as well as your opinions, but in this matter I just find it impossible to understand your point of view. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not...
Chris Zumbrunn wrote: [snip] Don't you think this Beastie qualifies as a professional logo? http://top.ch/sitedata/freebsd/beastie.gif Its a major step in the right direction. Personally, I dont really like it, but if it was to be the new logo I would not complain. It would solve most of the printing issues, but to me, it still does not look like something an advanced operating system would use. To much playground feeling over it. Maybe just the FreeBSD part and a couple of stylized horns over it, but that would mean Beastie would not be clearly visible and I dont know if I dare to suggest that. ;) No offense, I respect and appreciate your attempts. :) -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SPAM: Score 3.3: Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not...
Jerry McAllister wrote: Matthias Buelow writes: And your point is..? I can see that FreeBSD marketing has a long way to go. To where?FreeBSD is not marketed in any particular way - on purpose. No one wants to do it, so no one will do it. jerry I want to, and frequently do, market FreeBSD. I can tell you that the website and the community is not much help when trying to sell FreeBSD to the un-enlightened. When trying to sell it in commercial companies boardrooms, I make damn sure not to mention Beastie and usually never even show them the official webpage. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not...
Chris Zumbrunn wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Maybe just the FreeBSD part and a couple of stylized horns over it, but that would mean Beastie would not be clearly visible and I dont know if I dare to suggest that. ;) I agree something like this... http://top.ch/sitedata/freebsd/freehorns.gif ...would be possible as well. But personally, I think FreeBSD should celebrate some of its idiosyncrasies - specially the ones that are representative of its BSD UNIX tradition. To professionalize FreeBSD we would have to change its name before we would have to drop Beastie as its logo. It's probably even true that FreeBSD is more associated and recognized by its Beastie logo than by its name - and I'm not kidding. Totally agree, and thats why I suggest keeping Beastie as a mascot. Look at linux, everyone knows the linux penguin, but that doesnt stop RedHat, Caldera, Debian etc from having professional looking logos. And I think most of us agree that the reason RedHat is more accepted then FreeBSD in the commercial world is not due to its superior quality, stability or heritage, right? Maybe their more professional looking image has something to do with it? ;) -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why in the world you should have a vote: was RE: Pleasedon'tchange Beastie to another crap logo suchas NetBSD!!!
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Dag-Erling Smørgrav writes: No. Existing copies would still be distributable and derivable under the original license terms. What constitutes an existing copy in a world of downloads? A downloaded copy that still exists? ;) -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running restore non-interactive
Ruben de Groot wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 02:11:34PM +0100, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg typed: Hi list. Im trying to setup a machine to mirror its entire drive using dump/restore to a secondary drive. The dump works fine, but at the end of each session, restore always asks set owner/mode for '.'?. This makes it impossible to automate the task, which is what I would to accomplish. What exact commands are you using? I have scripts doing cd /mnt/drive2/partitionX dump 0aLf - /partitionX | restore rf - without being asked anything. I was using 'restore xf -', but after reading the manpage again I see that using -r like you do is the way to go. Unbelievable that noone else has noticed this, there are hundreds of posts on the internet discussing this very issue. Many thanks, you just saved me a lot of trouble! -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
running restore non-interactive
Hi list. Im trying to setup a machine to mirror its entire drive using dump/restore to a secondary drive. The dump works fine, but at the end of each session, restore always asks set owner/mode for '.'?. This makes it impossible to automate the task, which is what I would to accomplish. I have read the man-page, browsed the internet and searched trough mailinglist archives, but nowhere have I found a way to make restore assume that the answer to the question should be 'yes'. I have come across a few patches floating around that is supposed to fix this, but I would prefer not to use patches against the base system. I know that there are other utilities available that could probably do this, but Ive been teached that you should always use dump when doing full backups of the root filesystem, and Im also comfortable using dump and restore so I would like to continue to do so if possible. Any ideas or suggestions? -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM To: Simon Burke Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? Simon Burke wrote: [snip] 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being ugly. Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to do. Also i actually like how it looks. A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the problem. Roger I understand the problem, I wrote a book on FreeBSD integration in 2000. The problem is I think you don't understand the problem. Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to have today. That frankly isn't the reason you should like it. You should like it because it works better than most commercial operating systems let alone most operating systems. The reason? Like there was only one reason to like an os? I like FreeBSD due to its lack of bells and whistles, but I also like it due to its stability, performance, ease of use and license, among many other reasons. Maybe I should have made that more clear, I do not wish to come across as a guy that favours an os based on one reason alone. But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to improve the website. Why? Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming towards the nearest linux advocate instead. Most of the CEO's I've dealt with don't give a shit on a shingle about a product website. What they care about is: 'can what I need done be done in a way that is a) cheap and b) works and c) won't lock me in to you' I think we have a missunderstanding here. I already work for a big corporation. When I said that I was trying to sell FreeBSD, I meant that I was trying to get the company that I work for to chose FreeBSD over some other product. Im not a consultant of any kind, Im a fulltime employed technician trying to keep my employers network up and running. FreeBSD meets criteria A and B really well but it does not meet C. Linux meets A and B but BARELY meets C. Windows definitely meets C and usually meets B and doesen't usually meet A. The problem of course is that A and C are related. If I am a CEO and I sign a FreeBSD or Linux deal - and you are a sole-source provider, then once I have all my business processes into you, I'm locked into you. Once that happens my thought processes are that your going to become very expensive to me - why, because there's no competition to you out there. I'm not going to do that unless I trust you implicitly. And there's very few business people I am ever going to trust implicitly, save perhaps unless your a son or daughter, and even then I may not. You have to understand of course that this is old-school knee-jerk thinking. The CEO's are scared to death of you Roger. They don't understand what your selling, they don't understand how to integrate technology into their systems, they don't even understand their current system. As I explained earlier, Im not selling anything. We are several technicians at my company, some of us prefer BSD while others prefer linux, windows, sun or whatever the flavour of the day is. Everytime we get a new bunch of servers or a new task needs to be done, there is a religious war before we decide what os to use. Most of the time, the board wants a say in decisions like this, and BSD almost always loses this, due to a very unproffesional image. Since the company already has the expertise inhouse, the hardware has been ordered and everything is paid, they dont give a shit about price. When I tell them that BSD can do everything they want and do it good, they listen. When I tell them that its free, they listen but they dont really care. When the linux guys makes exactly the same claims and also is able to back it up with proffesional looking websites
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Simon Burke wrote: [snip] 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being ugly. Aesthetics are not everything, the web site does what its supposed to do. Also i actually like how it looks. A lot of people have strong feelings about all these all singing all dancing webistes. There is just no need. Keep it simple and easy to navigate around thats all thats really important. If the aesthetics really matter more than function to such people who use BSD then they would probably be not using BSD but either windows or linux, where you have a nice pretty GUI to look at all the nice pretty sites. This is where I think a lot of people simply does not understand the problem. Im a FreeBSD user. I like FreeBSD because it does not have all the flashy installers and pretty GUI's that many linux distros seems to have today. But still, Ive been screaming for years for someone to improve the website. Why? Anyone that has stood in front of a boardroom full of CEO's or similar and tried to promote the use of FreeBSD in a big organisation knows why. They might like all the facts about the os, the rock-solid stability, the lightning-fast performance and its solid reputation as a server os, but one look at the website and they will run screaming towards the nearest linux advocate instead. We, the users, might not care about our image, but if we want to be taken seriously by the rest of the world we better do something about it! [snip] 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead available to all that support this project. I have to ask why? why would people need such things? that i just dont understand Clearly, you have not tried to sell FreeBSD to a big corporation. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tunneling everything
Andrei Iarus wrote: Hi! I am looking for a solution to this problem: I want to make a tcp tunneling. The ssh tunneling doesn`t satisies me because I don`t want to tunnel a specific service, I want to tunnel everything. For example: I would like my host to route everything through a tcp tunnel. I would like to see what solutions exist on FreeBSD. Please give just some links. Thank you in advance! What you need is a VPN (Virtual Private Network). I suggest you google for MPD, Poptop and IPSec. Any of them should be able to do what you want, use the one that suits you best. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
freebsd 4.10 ATA problem
Hi list. I recently installed FreeBSD 4.9 on a Dell Poweredge 1500SC with dual PIII 1.3GHz, a SCSI drive for the OS and some IDE's for storage. I experienced crashes that seemed to be related to the IDE controller so I cvsuped to latest 4.10, but the problem is still there. Here are the last lines from the log/console: Aug 10 02:46:54 rambo /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Aug 10 02:46:54 rambo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device Aug 10 02:46:54 rambo /kernel: ad1: ATA identify retries exceeded Aug 10 02:46:54 rambo /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for cmd=c6 s=00 e=00 Aug 10 02:46:54 rambo /kernel: ad1: timeout waiting for cmd=ef s=00 e=00 Aug 10 02:46:54 rambo last message repeated 4 times Aug 10 02:46:54 rambo /kernel: done Aug 10 02:58:07 rambo /kernel: ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting Aug 10 02:58:07 rambo /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. Aug 10 02:58:07 rambo /kernel: ad1: removed from configuration Aug 10 02:58:07 rambo /kernel: ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device Aug 10 02:58:07 rambo /kernel: done After this, the box freezes, it totally locks up. Its not a panic, it just stops responding. Only way to recover is hard reboot. This seems to happen randomly within 1-5 days uptime, and its not related to heavy loads. I have tried to really put some stress on the IDE drives to force a lockup, but so far they have managed to survive all the torture tests Ive been able to think of. Still, the box has so far never managed more then 5 days without a crash. Do I have a f*cked up IDE controller on this motherboard or is there some setting I can try? Im gratefull for any and all suggestions. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ideal ipfw traffic shaping rules for small DSL net
Kenji M wrote: Hello network gurus, I'm looking for a good baseline ipfw shaping policy configuration for people who are using small upstream DSL bandwidth. I have 3Mbit downstream and 768K upstream and I use a ipf for natting and ipfw with dummynet to do traffic shaping. Considering a 750KB upstream pipe, what size queues would be the most beneficial to balance http, ssh, and other chat protocols sitting behind the natted firewall? I'm looking for some sample configurations to study. Any pointers appreciated! -Kenji http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticleartid=116 should get you started. Its a bit messy, but Im sure you can use it as a sample configuration and tweak it to fit your needs. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adaptec aic7899 problems?
Hi list. I recently installed FreeBSD 4.9 on a Dell Poweredge 1500SC. During a buildworld, it suddenly filled the console with weird errors. The box was running fine, and the buildworld completed successfully, but this still bothers me. It has something to do with the SCSI controller, that much I understand, but what is it trying to tell me? Has anyone seen this before or know what it means? From dmesg: ahc0: Adaptec aic7899 Ultra160 SCSI adapter port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xfeb01000-0xfeb01fff irq 2 at device 2.0 on pci1 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs ahc1: Adaptec aic7899 Ultra160 SCSI adapter port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfeb0-0xfeb00fff irq 7 at device 2.1 on pci1 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs The dump on the console: Apr 11 18:56:50 /kernel: ahc0: Recovery Initiated Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: Dump Card State Begins Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: ahc0: Dumping Card State while idle, at SEQADDR 0x8 Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: Card was paused Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: ACCUM = 0x0, SINDEX = 0x79, DINDEX = 0xe4, ARG_2 = 0x0 Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: HCNT = 0x0 SCBPTR = 0x1b Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCSIPHASE[0x0] SCSISIGI[0x0] ERROR[0x0] SCSIBUSL[0x0] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_BUSFREE) SCSISEQ[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SBLKCTL[0xa]:(SELWIDE|SELBUSB) SCSIRATE[0x0] SEQCTL[0x10]:(FASTMODE) Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SEQ_FLAGS[0xc0]:(NO_CDB_SENT|NOT_IDENTIFIED) SSTAT0[0x0] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SSTAT1[0x8]:(BUSFREE) SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] SIMODE0[0x8]:(ENSWRAP) Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) SXFRCTL0[0x80]:(DFON) Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: STACK: 0xe2 0x164 0x10a 0x3 Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB count = 140 Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: Kernel NEXTQSCB = 32 Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: Card NEXTQSCB = 32 Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: QINFIFO entries: Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: Waiting Queue entries: Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: 25:15 Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: QOUTFIFO entries: Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: Sequencer Free SCB List: 27 15 23 13 21 16 6 30 29 9 11 19 31 24 20 8 5 18 1 3 10 28 7 12 2 14 0 26 22 17 4 Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: Sequencer SCB Info: Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 0 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 1 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x17] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 2 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 3 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x17] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 4 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 5 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 6 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 7 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 8 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x17] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 9 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 10 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 11 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x17] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 12 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x17] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 13 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 14 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 15 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 16 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x17] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 17 SCB_CONTROL[0xe0]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB|TARGET_SCB) SCB_SCSIID[0x7] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xff] Apr 11 18:56:52 /kernel: 18
good network troubleshooting tool
Hi list, Im looking for suggestions on a good tool to track down packetlosses. MTR (/usr/ports/net/mtr) is exactly what I want with one exception: MTR uses ICMP, I would like something TCP based. I have tried a lot of the utilities in ports but has so far not found anything that suits my needs. Does anyone have any suggestions on utilities or pointers where to look? TIA -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do YOU stay up to date?
Drew Tomlinson wrote: Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg told a big fish story including the following on 1/15/2004 2:34 AM: Duane Winner wrote: Hello all again, I'm finally getting my arms around FreeBSD and the updating processes and tools. But I'm still trying to come up with good habits/methods/instructions for updating routines for both myself and my colleagues who also want to switch to FreeBSD. I now understand how to use cvsup to keep my src and ports tree current. I know how to use pkg_add -r to install new sotware, or go into /usr/ports/whatever to make install. I know how to do portupgrade to upgrade my installed ports, how to pkg_version -v to see what's out of date with my tree, and how to cronjob cvsup to keep my trees current. (I still need to play more with make world and whatnot) But what do you all out there in BSD land do to stay current as a practice? I'm looking at this on two fronts: FreeBSD on our laptops (There will be at least 3 of us with T23's, and I also plan on migrating most, if not all of my servers from Linux to FreeBSD). If you have the resources, you should consider using a dedicated machine for compiling. With ~10 laptops, a bunch of workstations and about 20-25 servers running FreeBSD we use 2 dedicated machines that does nothing but download sources and compiles them. One is tracking 4.x-STABLE and the other 5.x-RELEASE. Anyone can nfs mount choosen directories from these machines and install the pre-compiled software. It works extremely well, once the users have learned the correct process. I've been contemplating this setup. I know I can use portupgrade to build packages and then just install packages on other machines but don't understand the details. Is it difficult to set up? Can you point me to a web tutorial? Thanks, Drew http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticleartid=53 Its very basic, but it should get you started. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do YOU stay up to date?
Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg told a big fish story including the following on 1/15/2004 2:34 AM: Duane Winner wrote: Hello all again, I'm finally getting my arms around FreeBSD and the updating processes and tools. But I'm still trying to come up with good habits/methods/instructions for updating routines for both myself and my colleagues who also want to switch to FreeBSD. I now understand how to use cvsup to keep my src and ports tree current. I know how to use pkg_add -r to install new sotware, or go into /usr/ports/whatever to make install. I know how to do portupgrade to upgrade my installed ports, how to pkg_version -v to see what's out of date with my tree, and how to cronjob cvsup to keep my trees current. (I still need to play more with make world and whatnot) But what do you all out there in BSD land do to stay current as a practice? I'm looking at this on two fronts: FreeBSD on our laptops (There will be at least 3 of us with T23's, and I also plan on migrating most, if not all of my servers from Linux to FreeBSD). If you have the resources, you should consider using a dedicated machine for compiling. With ~10 laptops, a bunch of workstations and about 20-25 servers running FreeBSD we use 2 dedicated machines that does nothing but download sources and compiles them. One is tracking 4.x-STABLE and the other 5.x-RELEASE. Anyone can nfs mount choosen directories from these machines and install the pre-compiled software. It works extremely well, once the users have learned the correct process. I've been contemplating this setup. I know I can use portupgrade to build packages and then just install packages on other machines but don't understand the details. Is it difficult to set up? Can you point me to a web tutorial? Thanks, Drew http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticleartid=53 Its very basic, but it should get you started. Sorry, wrong link. Try this one instead: http://www.freebsddiary.org/makeworld-2boxes.php -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do YOU stay up to date?
Duane Winner wrote: Hello all again, I'm finally getting my arms around FreeBSD and the updating processes and tools. But I'm still trying to come up with good habits/methods/instructions for updating routines for both myself and my colleagues who also want to switch to FreeBSD. I now understand how to use cvsup to keep my src and ports tree current. I know how to use pkg_add -r to install new sotware, or go into /usr/ports/whatever to make install. I know how to do portupgrade to upgrade my installed ports, how to pkg_version -v to see what's out of date with my tree, and how to cronjob cvsup to keep my trees current. (I still need to play more with make world and whatnot) But what do you all out there in BSD land do to stay current as a practice? I'm looking at this on two fronts: FreeBSD on our laptops (There will be at least 3 of us with T23's, and I also plan on migrating most, if not all of my servers from Linux to FreeBSD). If you have the resources, you should consider using a dedicated machine for compiling. With ~10 laptops, a bunch of workstations and about 20-25 servers running FreeBSD we use 2 dedicated machines that does nothing but download sources and compiles them. One is tracking 4.x-STABLE and the other 5.x-RELEASE. Anyone can nfs mount choosen directories from these machines and install the pre-compiled software. It works extremely well, once the users have learned the correct process. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Size of /var worries me
parv wrote: ...only thing that i desire(d) is/was to give / much less than 128MB, but couldn't (during the space slicing). That and to combine /usr2 /usr3 now. But default inode space allocation of 8%/slice will kill me anyway. I really have to remember about the newfs options next time. Do you really mean inode space, or the 8% minimum free space treshold? If its the later, try this: umount /usr tunefs -m 0 /dev/ad-whatever mount /usr -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cover graphics question
Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good afternoon, I have just prepared to try again FreeBSD OS, it was some 5 years ago when I had this OS in use. So I downloaded the 4.8 version disks. The question may seem weird, sorry. Where can I get some commonly used (recommended) CD case/disk label images? Try www.google.com image-search for FreeBSD. You will find hundreds of images. Regards, Uli. Or you could support the project and buy the CD's from www.bsdmall.com or www.freebsdmall.com. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFC 868 timeserver for freebsd
Hi list, I recently installed a few SNMP interfaces to monitor some UPS modules in our network, and these interfaces require a timeserver to syncronize their clocks. I have tried the ntpd in FreeBSD 4.9 as well as msntp from ports, but none of them work with these interfaces. According to the manufacturer, the interfaces requires a timeserver that supports the RFC 868 protocoll, which ntpd and msntp doesnt seem to do. I've found several references to RFC's in the manpage of ntpd, however, it does not mention 868. Does anyone know of a timeserver supporting the RFC 868 protocoll that runs on FreeBSD or possibly linux? TIA -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restoring vinum root from dump
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: There's nothing special that you *need* to do for restoring to a Vinum volume. There are, however, things that are important when restoring system components. In particular, if you restore /usr/lib you'll replace the C library /usr/lib/libc.so. It's then possible to crash dynamically linked processes (since they no longer have libraries), after which you could be left with a mainly unusable system. Vinum offers a solution to this problem, as you've noted: detach a plex from each volume and restore to it. Then do some magic in single user mode to remove the other plex and attach the one you've just restored to. I'm not quite sure about the best way of doing this. I'll think about it, but if anybody else has suggestions for doing this with the least chance of shooting yourself in the foot, I'd be interested to hear them. Greg I have tried different approaches a few times, but not only did I shoot myself in the foot, I blew away everything from the neck down. If there is a safe way to accomplish this, I would love a step-by-step howto or examples from someone that has actually accomplished this with a positive result. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dhcp overrides default route
Hi list Lets say you have this in rc.conf: ifconfig_dc0=inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_dc1=DHCP default_router=1.2.3.254 The network on dc1 is 192.168.0.0/24 with the default router on that subnet being 192.168.0.254. If I reboot the box, dhclient will set default router to 192.168.0.254, overriding the value I specified in rc.conf. Is there a way to prevent that? Right now, I have a shellscript that runs as soon as the box is finished booting that resets the default route to its correct value, but somehow it feels that this is not the right way to do it. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD SPAM
Joseph Koenig wrote: I know this is an issue that comes up a lot, but I wanted to get an opinion from some people on the list. We, along with everyone else, have TONS of SPAM hit our server. Unfortunately, we haven't found any good way to reduce it. We're using ORDB and SpamCop, but neither are really doing the job. We're a small small company (7 employees) with about 100 mailboxes on the server. We don't mind paying for a service that works, but we are certainly on a tight budget. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Currently, we're using Sendmail, although we're considering (and testing) a switch to PostFix. TIA for any advice, Joe We are running procmail, MIMEDefang and SpamAssassin. After some tweaking, it kills about 9 out of 10 spams. SpamAssissin can hog a lot of CPU if you handle a lot of emails, so make sure you are running it in daemon mode, that helps quite a bit. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISPs blocking SMTP connections from dynamic IP address space
Doug Poland wrote: Hello, This isn't so much a FreeBSD topic but a comment and a request for resources. As a long time FreeBSD admin/user I know this is a large, diverse, and eloquent community of technical users. I hope someone can point me to a resource or group of users that address this policy. Within the last two months both AOL and Time Warner Road Runner have implemented port 25 blocks from hosts with IP addresses in the dynamic address space. Time Warner claims other major ISPs are/will be implementing the same policy. I support several smaller organizations computer infrastructures. The server backbone in all these orgs is FreeBSD and they all have SMTP servers with IP addresses in the dynamic space. More of our outgoing mail is starting to bounce as these ISPs bring these new policies online. Is anyone else uneasy with this trend? Maybe it's just me and I don't like being discriminated against because I don't have the money to own static IP addresses. One would think groups of responsible and technically competent users would be organizing against this trend and attempting to make their voice heard. A little help here? Sorry, but I cant help you here, I fully agree with AOL and the big guys. We have to take some serious action against spam, and it will piss a lot of people off, but as they say: you cant make an omelett without breaking some eggs. I say block the dynamic address space, block everything that lacks proper reverse dns, and blacklist ISP's that doesnt care enough to hunt down and cut off the spammers among their users. If you ask me spamming should be punished with huge fines, so huge the people responsible for spamming could never again afford even a throw away dialup account. Maybe a few years in a federal prison wouldnt hurt either...or rather, I hope it would hurt...for them. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail_enable=NO /YES/MAYBE ?
Richard Shea wrote: Thanks to both of you for your replies however this has raised another question ! ... (see below) On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:16:54 +0200, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Konrad Heuer wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Richard Shea wrote: [Original Question snipped] Yes, sendmail_enable=YES will do the job. FreeBSD sendmail respects the TCP wrapper config file /etc/hosts.allow; you can limit access to sendmail there (look at man 5 hosts_options). Checkout /etc/mail/access, it allows you to control who is permitted to relay trough your server. Well I discovered I think that if I don't use /etc/mail/access in fact I cannot send mail through the FBSD box. (I get 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied). So I went an looked at /etc/mail and there is a access.sample but not a plain access file so I copied and edited access.sample to include a line ... 192.168.10.4 OK ... and rebooted but still I get the same error. On the system console I get a more verbose form of the same message but also lost input channel from SS11232 [192.168.10.4] to MTA after rcpt which doesn't sound too good to me. Am I using the access file correctly here ? Am I right in thinking that I MUST use the access file or could I just ignore it ? Should I have renamed access.sample to access ? Thanks again for your help so far and any other help would be welcome. regards richard. After editing /etc/mail/access, run 'makemap hash /etc/mail/access /etc/mail/access' to rebuild the access db and then restart sendmail. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail_enable=NO /YES/MAYBE ?
Konrad Heuer wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Richard Shea wrote: Hi - I currently have sendmail_enable=NO in my rc.conf file. This allows emails to be sent from the FBSD machine however I would like one other machine on the LAN to use the FBSD machine as a SMTP machine. I think sendmail_enable=YES would do this but would then allow every other machine on the LAN to use sendmail ? Is there some way I could limit sendmail users by IP address ? Yes, sendmail_enable=YES will do the job. FreeBSD sendmail respects the TCP wrapper config file /etc/hosts.allow; you can limit access to sendmail there (look at man 5 hosts_options). Regards Konrad Checkout /etc/mail/access, it allows you to control who is permitted to relay trough your server. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hardware monitoring / healthd
ephix wrote: Hey, I have a Dell PowerEdge server, and have been trying to get healthd / chm working for the past few days. I think it uses the LM81 chipset (as ive managed to find with google), while healthd only supports LM78, LM79, and some others. The server is leaving for the datacenter in the next day or so, and currently I have no way of checking the system/CPU temperature. Anyone know if there are any updates to healthd/freebsd/ any monitoring app that I could try? SMB mode returns the following: Failed to open /dev/smb0. ISA bus mode just gives blank results. Thanks, Lewi If you find one that works, please let me know. I run several PowerEdge's but has never found a hardware monitoring utility that works. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISPs blocking SMTP connections from dynamic IP address space
Kevin Stevens wrote: On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Its still not a reason for allowing relay from dynamic addresses. All ISP's, or atleast all serious ISP's, provide their customer with a relaying mailserver. Its a simple task to configure your mailserver to use your ISP's smtp as smarthost and relay all outgoing email trough them. I know, I use this setup myself, since just like you I cant afford real connections everywhere but have to rely on cheap DSL or cable. Bullshit. My ISP's lack of ability to deliver mail reliably is what made me start my own mail service in the first place. Nor do I particularly want to hand them my mail so they can riffle through it at their leisure rather than having to scan for it on the wire in realtime. If youre ISP is unable to deliver mail reliably then you should switch to another ISP immediatly, imho. There are way to many ISP's out there that doesnt have a clue what they are doing, and the only reason they still exist is that people keep using them. Im not saying you should go with one of the big ones, I hate AOL and MSN just as much as any other guy, but there are plenty of ISP's out there that Im sure know what they are doing and really care about customer service. And if you dont want people to read your mail, you should use PGP or something similar, even if you run your own mailserver. Today its far to easy to get your email out on the 'net. Even the high school dropouts as you call the spammers can buy a cheap DSL connection, setup a mailserver and spam like crazy untill the ISP gets enough complaints to cut them off. When that happens, they get a new connection and start all over. As long as we rely on the old and very outdated SMTP protocoll that powers the net today, precautions will have to be taken very soon, or email will be useless in a few years. Fine. Then replace it, or require authentication at receiving points, or some other solution that directly addresses the problem. Wholesale blocking of types of transport is a crappy solution. It's unfair, liable to huge amounts of false positives, and leads directly to the kind of centralized, locked down Internet that will spell its demise. KeS Thats easier said then done. You do realize what a monumental task it would be to replace SMTP, dont you? But hey, if you have a plug n' play solution that will just drop in and replace SMTP without breaking anything, Im all for it! I do not agree on your opinion that taking some needed actions will lock down the internet and kill it. I think its completely the other way around. If we dont do something about spam now, noone will want to be on the internet in a few years time. Email will be impossible to use due to the signal to noise ratio, www will be cluttered with popups, banners and ad's for porn site, and every single file will contian a trojan or worm. I cant believe I sound like some domesday prophet, Im actually known among those who know me as a fanatic advocate of a free internet, but as I see it the internet is slowly selfdestructing. Its no longer a creation of research and educational needs, its being used for pure profit and the dream of making fast and easy money. And I dont like that. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISPs blocking SMTP connections from dynamic IP address space
Lucas Holt wrote: Why don't people talk about software developers? Someone is writing the software for spammers. Lets go after them. Think about it; spammers have an average education level of high school dropout. Mainstream media has done stories about this. Bottom line, spammers are too stupid to write spamming programs. Blocking legitimate administrators of domains because they are too poor to go with Verio is crap.Everyone was small once. By your policy, ISPs couldn't start. My former employer, USOL.com, started on an 128k ISDN line in 1996. Using DSL now is no different than that. You bigger guys just want money from us. Any business that wants to run windows servers for example must pay double for renting a server or they can pay full colo prices plus buy the windows licensing. Even using freebsd is cheaper on DSL. For example, I pay 100 bucks a month to rent a FreeBSD server with a 1.2 gig celeron, 256 mb ram, and a 20 gig hdd. I get 100 gig of transfer a month. (my server is in California)To colo a server in Michigan costs 150 dollars on average for a 128 k package. A dedicated DSL package with 384 downstream, 128k upstream with 5 static ips from SBC costs around 70 dollars a month. Thats why people use DSL to hosts sites. Its slow, but cost effective for small businesses. Its still not a reason for allowing relay from dynamic addresses. All ISP's, or atleast all serious ISP's, provide their customer with a relaying mailserver. Its a simple task to configure your mailserver to use your ISP's smtp as smarthost and relay all outgoing email trough them. I know, I use this setup myself, since just like you I cant afford real connections everywhere but have to rely on cheap DSL or cable. Today its far to easy to get your email out on the 'net. Even the high school dropouts as you call the spammers can buy a cheap DSL connection, setup a mailserver and spam like crazy untill the ISP gets enough complaints to cut them off. When that happens, they get a new connection and start all over. As long as we rely on the old and very outdated SMTP protocoll that powers the net today, precautions will have to be taken very soon, or email will be useless in a few years. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Server spinning out of control...
Jamie wrote: That is a good idea, thanks. We did check that though. Went through each user's accounts checking their .forwards and procmaillrc files. We are running spamassassin 2.55, and in the global procmailrc file we call spamc which connects to a spamd running on another machine. Are you aware of any other system utilities that might be used to trace CPU consumption and trap problems? We've taken a lot of stabs in the dark with what it could be, and we'd like to try some solid diagnostic utils to shed more light. - Jamie Try running systat -vm, that should give you a good overview over what happens when the load skyrockets. I had a similar problem once, not as extreme as the one you describe but the symptoms where the same. A few times a day one of our servers reported load averages at about 5.0-5.5. By the time I got there (30 second run to the serverroom) the server was always back to almost idle, avg around 0.2-0.5. The only thing that was different in this compared to most of the other servers was the nic. Since the onboard nic died we had to replace it with a low profile PCI nic. I cant remember the exact make and model, but it was probably something cheap from the nearest computer store. Using systat I noticed that during the bursts of high loads the number of interrupts on the nic went skyhigh. We replaced the nic with a more wellknown brand, and the server flatlined its load average. Its still doing exactly the same tasks but rarely goes above 0.1. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PIII SMP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear list, buying two PIII for a dual system ... what do i have to pay attention to (besides the requirements of the M/B)? aka ... are all PIII SMP capable? thanks Make sure the stepping is identical. Some motherboards require Tualatin's to be able to run dual, others will happily run even Celeron CPU's in smp. I personally run a Dell Poweredge 1500SC motherboard with two Tualatin 1.13GHz PIII's, and Ive had no problems at all with it. I also run a MSI 649D-Pro motherboard with two PIII 1Ghz (not Tualatin) which also works great, but performance wise it's no match for the dual Tualatin. I would say Tualatin's are youre best bet, they are a little expensive but they work great in dual systems, thats what they are designed for. Just make sure your motherboard can handle Tualatins. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Laptop
Thanjee Neefam wrote: I am considering buying a new laptop (my current one is a Dell Inspiron PII-233 without a CD Drive (it broke :( )) I just simply want to know if there is a particluar range of laptops that work better with FreeBSD. ie: they use totally standard quality hardware, no panic on installs, also good value for money. I have had all good experiences with my Dell Inspiron regarding FreeBSD, but the time has come to improve my hardware. Cheers :) /// [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\\ AAFE Audio, Amiga and FreeBSD Enthusiast :p \ http://www.fastmail.fm // Ive been using a Dell Latitude C840 for 6 or so months now, and Ive had very little if any problems with it. Onboard nic works great, PCMCIA is no problem, sound and graphics in X worked on first try, even the dockingstation and its extra connections works great under FreeBSD. The only thing I havent tried is the onboard modem. It might work, I just never tried since I havent had any use for it. The Latitude is one of Dell's top modells, so you could easily find a cheaper laptop. However, if you dont mind paying a few extra bucks, its worth it. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want using FreeBSD, but...
Rissland, Thorsten wrote: ...i'm a christian. Why is the Logo of FreeBSD an devil What have an oparating System to do with the devil Of course, there is something like daemon's (under Windows called services) but this is not the meaning of deamon!!! I think the meaning of daemon is d=disk a=and e=? (i don't know) mon=monotoring So what has this to with an Deamon??? Please answer me. This is explained at the FreeBSD website at http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html The symbolic refers to daemon, not deamon, and it has nothing to do with satan, the devil, evil powers or anything even remotely religious. From the FreeBSD website: `Daemon'' is actually a much older form of ``demon''; daemons have no particular bias towards good or evil, but rather serve to help define a person's character or personality. The ancient Greeks' concept of a ``personal daemon'' was similar to the modern concept of a ``guardian angel'' --- ``eudaemonia'' is the state of being helped or protected by a kindly spirit. I hope this helps, freebsd is really a great operating system and I hope you wont let religion or politics stop you from using it. -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Etherbet interface redundancy
Hello listmembers Is there a way to accomplish interface redundancy on machines with dual interface? I have a few Dell Poweredge 1650 and some Compaq DL-360 G2 servers with dual onboard gigabit interfaces. When running windows, you can use the software provided with each server to bundle the interfaces. Compaq calls it teaming, I cant recall what Dell calls it but Im sure they have a similar catchy name for it. You bundle the interfaces to a virtual interface and assigns it an ip address. If the first interface dies, it switches to the second and uses that instead. I have looked at ng_one2many, but it doesnt seem to be what I need. It uses *both* interfaces unless they are marked as down. I want it to use the first interface unless marked as down, and if it is marked as down, it should switch to the second and try that. It should *never* use both interfaces at the same time. Does anyone know of anything with such a functionality for FreeBSD? -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't find NIC
Socketd wrote: Hi all I have a laptop (Compaq Presario 1200, 400mhz, 6gb harddisk, 64 mb ram and so on). I am trying to install a SMC EZ Card 10/100, 16 bit which acoring to http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.8R/hardware-i386.html#ETHERNET is supported, but my FreeBSD 4.8-Release with a GENERIC kernel can't find it. Someone knows how to fix this? Bwt please CC to me as I am not on the list. br socketd Have you enabled pccard? (pccard_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf) -- R ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mirroring/load-balance two servers
Jonas Fornander wrote: Does anyone know if there is a simple way to mirror two servers without spending $ on hardware? I'm NOT talking about mirroring the OS and the files, I'm talking about sending http requests to a second server if the first server is down/un-reachable. This is sometimes referred to as load-balancing. The second server doesn't have to be updated in realtime, it just needs to have a fairly current version of the data files of the main server. So, for example if the main server goes off line for any reason, then web pages would be served up from the second server instead. Can this be accomplished with DNS? Jonas Fornander - System Administrator Netwood Communications, LLC - www.netwood.net Find out why we're better - 310-442-1530 Google for round-robin DNS, that should get you started. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Best way to log from several servers
Thomas von Hassel wrote: On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 01:32 PM, Rus Foster wrote: you want to tweak /etc/syslogd.conf. You can log to remote machine using something like *.* @loghost.domain.com You might have to configure the firewall/remote syslog to accept the connections. Also if there is heavy network traffic you can not be guarenteed to get the messages as it uses UDP rather than TCP. My personal advice would be log both locally and remotly ok, that would take care of the sending side, what about the receiving side ? /thomas Try 'man syslogd', its all in there. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: natd
Brian Henning wrote: My local network (192.168.1.0) consists of three machine BSD1 (192.168.1.40) and BSD2 (192.168.1.42). Both of these machines use gateway/router (BSD3) 192.168.1.254 to access the internet. All of these machine are connected to a switch locally. BSD3 connects to my isp and gets my single ip address that i want to share with the rest of my local network. Just a note, these machine get their ip addresses staticly. on my router i recompiled the kernel with these options. options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE#firewall logging capability - optional options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #limit verbosity options IPDIVERT #NATD i have not added anything to my rc.conf file as of yet. Eventually i will set up natd and firewall settings in my rc.conf, but can someone direct me on how to do this manually so i can access the internet from anywhere on my network. r11 is my external network rl0 is my internal network natd -interface rl1 ipfw -f flush ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via rl1 ipfw add pass all from any to any does this seem correct? Thanks for any advice, Brian Add 'sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1' to the above commands and you should be surfing in no time. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: NATs/Firewall help
Christopher Blanchard wrote: I am a system administrator at a small private school in the California mountains. I recently acquired a DSL connection and would like to share it with the faculty and staff using NATs. I put up a 4.7 stable dual-homed box (AJAX), rebuilt the kernel with IPFIREWALL, IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT and IPDIVERT. The DSL gateway is 4.63.122.77/255.255.255.252 the internet interface is 4.63.122.78/255.255.255.252 on the LAN side the interface is 10.10.236.5/255.255.255.0 and another router is at 10.10.236.254, 10.10.2 36.1 is a dns/dhcp server (RS1)(novell netware) cedulocal.com. I have read everything I can get my hands on but cannot get AJAX to pass traffic. From AJAX I can ping/ftp out to the internet and internally to RS1. I would be appreciative of suggestions and would particularly like sample rc.files with appropriate examples. X-server on this machine will not work as it is a compaq with an embedded Intel 82815e graphics which I am unable to turn off so http is out, but ftp works fine. thanks Internet AJAX RS1Router 4.63.122.77 4.63.122.7810.10.236.5 10.10.236.1 10.10.236.254 255.255.255.252 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 255.255.255.0 DNS 4.2.2.1 DNS/DHCP Srvr cedulocal.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message Your /etc/rc.conf should contain the following: firewall_enable=YES firewall_type=OPEN firewall_script=/etc/rc.firewall natd_enable=YES natd_flags=-a 4.62.122.78 gateway_enable=YES Basically, that should get you going. You may want to tweak things like firewall rules etc but the above should atleast work well enough to get you started. Unless you feel like playing with sysctl and ipfw manually you will have to reboot after adding the above lines. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: OT sendmail tagging spam
Laszlo Vagner wrote: currently i use spamcop.net's blocking service and have the FEATURE in my sendmail configuration, I would like to just tag spam say in the subject add SPAM: to all incoming mails that match the blocklist. What would be the best way of doing this.? Thank You Laszlo Spamassassin -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Laptop sugestions?
Tuc wrote: Try dell. Inspiron 8200 seems great. Of course you must be careful with the hardware, but for me there is another important feature that I take care every time I buy a laptop: keyboard. Today, there is a annoying tendency to put unuseful keyboards on laptops. Inspirons 8200 are great, but they weigh so much. If you are going to use it at your work maybe you don't mind that the laptop weigh four-five kg. Are all it's devices (screen network, modem et all) well supported under FreeBSD? I have had an 8200 since April last year, hard drive went on it last week so I had to re-install 4.7 from scratch. I use the built in ethernet (xl0) and have used the docking station ethernet (xl1). I didn't get the built in modem, since it was a WINMODEM. I mistakenly bought a Cardbus PCMCIA modem, so I couldn't use that. I ended up with an IBM X-jack PCMCIA from my old Thinkpad. I got it with the NVIDIA GeForce4 440 Go card in it. The first incarnation I used the nv drivers, this time around I'm using the Nvidia supplied drivers. I'm running in 1400x1050 with 122 pixel clock, 64.89 H sync, 59.98 V sync. *snip* I use a Dell Latitude C840 that works great. All I had to do to get everything working was to install the nVidia drivers. X looks great, I have sound, and I can use the docking station without problems. I have not tried the built-in modem since I only use ethernet, but if you want to make sure I can give it a try and let you know what happens. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Poor server response
Derrick Ryalls wrote: I built a FreeBSD box using a 4.7-release mini cd distro from freebsd.org. I then updated to stable via cvsup and did a buildworld/kernel. The machine needed linux support, so I installed linux-base (6?) from the ports. Things were going fine until I started stressing the box. Frequently, when using edit to edit config files, the remote session would lock and connection would get lost. The edit session would show up in a 'ps -aux' but I could not kill it via kill or killall. Now the box is fairly unresponsive to pings. I swapped a known good patch cable but it didn't help. Also, when trying to scp, more often than not, once I click on copy (using winscp), the session would lock up and connection drop on the client side. I don't seem to have any editing issues if I am sitting at the terminal, and pinging local ip doesn't drop a packet. When I ping any other ip, I get dropped packets... Any ideas? Hardware: XP1800+ ECS K7S5A mobo w/ onboard lan. 512M PC2100 crucial ram -Derrick I have exactly that motherboard in one of my machines, and I must say Im not impressed by its performance or stability. I disabled the onboard nic and replaced it with a PCI Intel 10/100 card, and network performance sky-rocketed. Just a tip -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: physically mounting a FreeBSD drive on a WinXP box
Bsd Neophyte wrote: i don't know if posting this question is relavant to this group... but i was wondering if it was possible to physically mount a former FreeBSD disk on a winxp box. i know someone would suggest that i mount the drive on the FreeBSD box and get the files i need that way... however, this is not an easy process. it would be alot easier if i could take the drive and use something to take the files from my WinXP system. AFAIK, this is not possible. FreeBSD can mount Windows filesystems, but the other way around is not true. As always, since m$ is the bigger one, the others have to follow their standards, while m$ itself doesnt care about anyone else's. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Hardware test software for FreeBSD
Sostin Andrey wrote: Dear colleagues, Does anybody know about software tests for FreeBSD which could overload the whole system (like BurnIn Pro for Windows). Please give the url, if any. We need to test about 500 servers under FreeBSD... Sincerely, Andrew A. Sostin To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message cd /usr/src make -j4 buildworld make -j4 buildkernel Repeat until satisfied. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: How do I block spam locally?
Matt Smith wrote: I agree, but how do I run spam filtering locally? As an average desktop user, I simply use a client to POP mail from a server -- are there client plugins that filter for spam? I currently use Evolution, but am willing to change if there a spam filter plugins for other clients. As a slightly-more-than-average desktop user, I just figured out fetchmail to fetch a POP3 account to my local sendmail (base system, default install, set for local deliver only). Is SpamAssassin the best way to go? Is it a plugin for Sendmail? If I'm going to start messin' with my local MTA, should I try something besides Sendmail? The config options of Sendmail are somewhat daunting -- it seems like an SMTP handler should be simpler. Thoughts? Thanks all, -Matt If you are using fetchmail to deliver to your own sendmail, you are already halfway there. Use procmail to run all emails through spamassassin, and then let procmail or your MUA sort the emails based on the spamassassin results. I use this approach, and after a surprisingly small amount of tweaking spamassassin now catches ~99 out of a 100 spams, and has amazingly few false positives. There are some tutorials about procmail on http://www.onlamp.com/bsd/ that deals with catching spam. Even if they dont explain spamassassin, it should get you started. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
VPN w2k RFC1918 ip to FreeBSD 4.7 firewall?
Hi list. Im about to implement some VPN tunnels at work. We already run a few tunnels from BSD to BSD that works great, but now we need to allow some of our employees to connect from home. Setup looks something like this: LAN -- FreeBSD firewall -- Internet -- ADSL router -- Windows 2k Is it possible to build a VPN from the w2k machine to the FreeBSD firewall, prefferably using already existent software? I know its possible to connect FreeBSD and w2k if they both have static IP's, but in this case the w2k is behind nat and the ADSL router has a dynamic IP. How do others solve this? I mean, there must be someone that has users with laptops, homeoffices and whatever that connects to their work using VPN and FreeBSD. I dont mind using other software besides IPSec, but I do prefer free solutions since Im on a very low budget for this. All suggestions, experiences or ideas are much appriciated. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Linux vs. FreeBSD
W. D. wrote: At 20:39 10/23/2002, Dan Pelleg, wrote: FreeBSD systems are easy to maintain. You can do a source upgrade, or a binary upgrade, and the system will go through it and boot to the new version without a hitch. On one system I have I've gone from FreeBSD 4.1 to 4.7, including every release in between, without ever touching the console. When a major version comes out, I typically upgrade 10 systems in multiple locations, all within half a day without leaving my office. Pray tell, how do you do this? Start Here to Find It Fast!© - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ I can confirm that this is in fact possible, and not even difficult to accomplish. My home machine has gone from FreeBSD 2.2.8 to 4.7 without reinstall, and I disconnected the monitor and keyboard somewhere around 3.3. An upgrade consists of the following commands: 'cvsup -g -L2 stable-supfile cd /usr/src/ make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=whatever make installkernel KERNCONF=whatever make installworld reboot' Theoretically you could just paste those lines into a shellscript, make a crontab entry and be done, but I do recommend that you add some error checking and maybe some interaction with the user. Of course, this should _not_ be used on production or otherwise heavy loaded machines. Doing install in single user is recomended, but a box with very low loads will probably do it just fine running multi user. Ive used this method for years (allthough not added to cron but started manually when I think it's needed) and it has only failed me once. When going from 4.6 to 4.7 I had to do a reboot between installkernel and installworld, or the system would fail with a lot of weird memory errors. Luckily, I always update my testmachine first, so when the time came to update the real machine I was aware of this and avoided the problem. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Oops! rc.conf mistake
Steve Warwick wrote: Hey all, I wonder if anyone can tell me how to get out of this stupid mistake. I edited rc.conf to add a virtual interface and left a quote off the end (unterminated string) - now I cannot get past mounting root, so no editors. And before you ask, no, I did not backup rc.conf... I told you it was stupid. BTW: I noticed that ad0 is limited to UDMA33 - I have UDMA133 motherboard and drive so, I this really true? TIA, Steve Since other have answered the rc.conf question, I give the limited to UDMA33 a shot. Are you using a UDMA133 cable? I cant recall the UDMA133 specs, but I know UDMA66 and 100 use a different cable then UDMA33. UDMA133 might use the same cable as 66 and 100, but Im certain a 33 cable would force the drive to be UDMA33 only, even if both drive and controller is capable of UDMA133. It might also be a BIOS issue, check your settings. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD bootable floppy Script NOT WORKING
John Bleichert wrote: *snip* * EOM is not a command, it's an end-of-text marker, similar to the one used in Perl. * There are text-file incompatibilities between Unix and DOS. If you're copying/pasting the file from the website in Windows, ftp'ing it to a Unix box and then trying to run it, all those extra linefeeds may cause extremely bizzare errors. I hate to say it, but if you can only get the Internet on your winbox, you should probably fire up vi (or whatever editor you like) and enter it manally. Or run a dos2unix utility on the script on your Unix box to set it up and clear out those linefeeds. A simple command like perl -i.bak -npe 's/\r\n/\n/g' filename will clear the linefeeds and even make a backup of the file. (It has never failed me, but you'll never know) -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: buried in spams, recommendation?
Peter Leftwich wrote: Can someone on the list PLEASE recommend a good quarantining filter app? I know mwm (Mike Someone) out there uses one that issues a challenge via reply or reply to all. Thanks!! -- Peter Leftwich President Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message Spamassasin with procmail is just awesome. With a little tweaking it now catches somewhere around 95-99% of all spam I recieve, and rarely catches any legit mail. I would guess it has marked somewhere around 5-6 legit mails as spam during the ~6 months I've used it, and thats not to bad considering I recieve ~200 mails a day. I think there is an article on onlamp about procmail and spamfiltering, you might want to check it out. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: MySQL or Postgresql on FreeBSD, have I just started a holy war?
Mailing Lists wrote: Hi all, I've just been getting ready to start serious MySQL development on a Dual Processor FreeBSD box and I stumbled across the following blog entry on the web today which has me thinking: http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000203.html#000203 The coles notes version is that the author, who seems to have some chops in both MySQL and FreeBSD (looks like he's a sysadmin at Yahoo, hi if you're out there Jeremy), has come across some issues with threading and smp support while using MySQL FreeBSD. Now, of course, he doesn't mention is the machines where these issues come up are super high traffic or not, so this may be all moot if you're not running say, Yahoo! I'm still a babe in the woods when it comes to MySQL, but I'm redeveloping several databases that I did some time ago in a proprietary database solution (4D) and I'll be damned if I'm going to redo these things again any time soon, so I'd like to know that I've made the right choice of DB Platform. I've been really happy with 4D overall, but need to have more connectivity options, hence the move. There must be a ton of people running MySQL on FreeBSD, so my first question is, are the issues raised here ones likely to occur on a low to medium volume system? I'm doing about 100,000 queries a day on our current db server from a variety of websites and would expect this volume to double or triple in the next year. My FreeBSD Box is currently DP PIII 500's, but I'll be upgrading it to Ghz PIII's before deployment with a gig of RAM, more if needed. My current DB server is actually an iMac, it's a long story, with a 400Mhz G3 and 512 mb RAM running OS X 10.2 and keeping up quite nicely, so I don't imagine the hardware itself will be a limiting factor. My second question is, if it looks like this will potentially be an issue, how does Postgresql perform on FreeBSD. I could use it just as easily as MySQL and, from what I've heard, it's a little beefier in some aspects. With regards to threading issues, am I likely to be happier with Postgresql in the long term? Im far from skilled in SQL and databases, but I have used postgre on FreeBSD for some time, and never had any problems. I run a few db's, the biggest probably around 25000 rows and maybe 300 hits a day, so I cant really say its under any kind of load worth mentioning. However, I have tried to stress it a bit with a few simple perl scripts bombing it with queries. On a dual PII 233 with 256M ram I couldnt even make it break a sweat. As I said, Im no SQL guru, my very primitive benchmark was just a few perl loops sending queries as fast as they could. No matter how I tried I couldnt even notice any impact on the machine's performance...I guess the SQL answered faster then my perl loops could generate queries. :) From what I've read and experienced, postgre seems to be an excellent choice on FreeBSD. And I do love FreeBSD, but to me this sound like the old use whatever gets the job done saying. If linux can do what you want and do it good, you really shouldnt run it on BSD just for the sake of it. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: NAT with Three NICs
James West wrote: I'm fairly new to FreeBSD coming from a linux background. My problem is probably simple, but I'm having a hard time with it. I have four boxes, one FreeBSD that acts as a gateway/NAT router/Firewall, a Windows2k workstation, and two old Mac workstations. Being unable to afford a 10/100 hub right now, I'm stuck with a 10 hub and 10/100 cards in both the freebsd and windows machines. So I thought I could just simply connect those two via crossover so I could get 100 on the ones I use the most, and stick a 10 card in the freebsd machine to connect to the hub and the old Macs that both have simple 10 cards. I would assign the 10 card in the freebsd machine a different submask and call it a day. It doesn't seem to be that simple. For some reason, my packets are being routed perfectly from the W2k machine to the internet and back, but the macs are not reachable from either the FreeBSD box or the W2k box. They cannot get out either. I'm wondering, what do I have to do to get the FreeBSD machine to route packets from both dc0 (100) and ed0 (10) through rl0 (which is connected to my cablemodem, DHCP) and back again, as well as route traffic around the local network? Thank you James West You could run two natd daemons on the gateway machine, one for the win machine and one for the macs. Just start another natd listening on another port, and add a ipfw divert rule to send the traffic from the macs through this new natd. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: another question
Eric Dedrick wrote: Natd hasn't exactly been working as it used to either. Any idea what this means? Jul 24 23:26:43 dsl-146-127 /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.1 is on lo0 but got reply from 00:04:76:b8:94:10 on ep0 Jul 24 23:28:17 dsl-146-127 /kernel: arp: 128.211.146.127 is on lo0 but got reply from 00:60:08:10:e6:e5 on xl0 # ifconfig xl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=3rxcsum,txcsum inet6 fe80::204:76ff:feb8:9410%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 ether 00:04:76:b8:94:10 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active lp0: flags=8810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 ep0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 128.211.146.127 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 128.211.146.255 inet6 fe80::260:8ff:fe10:e6e5%ep0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 ether 00:60:08:10:e6:e5 media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 faith0: flags=8002BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 I dont know why this happens but if its any comfort I have had similar errors on my machine for years. Jul 4 14:40:43 rambo /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.3 is on lo0 but got reply from 00:48:54:50:e4:96 on fxp0 Jul 8 15:13:36 rambo /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.1 is on dc1 but got reply from 00:02:e3:14:5a:b6 on fxp0 192.168.0.3 is the ip of the machine logging this, 192.168.0.1 is a win machine connected to dc1. Since everything works I havent bothered to look into it. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: another question
Eric Dedrick wrote: I dont know why this happens but if its any comfort I have had similar errors on my machine for years. Jul 4 14:40:43 rambo /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.3 is on lo0 but got reply from 00:48:54:50:e4:96 on fxp0 Jul 8 15:13:36 rambo /kernel: arp: 192.168.0.1 is on dc1 but got reply from 00:02:e3:14:5a:b6 on fxp0 192.168.0.3 is the ip of the machine logging this, 192.168.0.1 is a win machine connected to dc1. Since everything works I havent bothered to look into it. I had one extra wire I didn't need that had both ep0 and xl0 on the same circuit. Once removed, I didn't get any more errors. Glad you solved it, but that cant be the problem in my case. My network looks something like this: Internet - fxp0|FBSD|dc1 - Switch - Bunch of win machines Still, somehow, the FBSD complains that some of the ips assigned to the win machines replys on fxp0 when it should be on dc1. The FBSD was installed somewhere around 3.0, and has since been cvsuped and upgraded and is today 4.6, and the errors have been there all the time. But, as I said, everything works so I dont really notice them anymore. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: CCD
Christopher J. Umina wrote: Hey guys and gals, I'm just looking for an oppinion on using CCD for stripping on two IDE drives. Anybody have anything to say about performance, reliability, manageability and so on? Thanks A Lot, Christopher J. Umina I have never tried CCD, but Vinum works fine for me. It does both striping, mirroring, RAID-5 and most other RAID combinations you can think of. -- R To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
