Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Darrin Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FreeBSD Questions
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?



 My point isn't that I *liked* binary-only drivers ... my point is that I'd
 rather a company like Adaptec to *at least* supply a binary driver if they
 require their specs to be closed, then provide *no means* for me to use
 Adaptec products ...


No, that's not the way of Open Source.  You cannot advocate binary only
drivers for an open source OS, it is a slippery slope.  What is sauce for
the
goose must be sauce for the gander.  It is philosophy bankrupt to demand
binary support without the source code.

You gave Adaptec a good shot - you gave them a chance to keep supporting
you.  They failed.  It isn't your fault for upgrading, and it isn't FBSD's
fault
for changing so the binary blob doesen't work right anymore.

 How many out there are *still* running 4.x on their servers and desktops,
 for similar fears?


I usually go gradually on upgrading, so I'll see problems like this long
before
I've changed over any significant percent of my servers.

Ted

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install 6.1-release through serial terminal?

2006-07-27 Thread Tyler Spivey
Hello. I'm a blind user, and was wondering how to get 6.1-release to
install over serial. I've tried everything - hitting option 6, space,
boot -h cr, but nothing happens. unplugging the keyboard, nothing
happens. hitting space and typing boot -h - nothing. This is using a
cdrom disc1.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Tyler

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Re: mail rejected

2006-07-27 Thread dick hoogendijk
On 26 Jul Richard Collyer wrote:
 
 On Wed, July 26, 2006 8:37 am, dick hoogendijk wrote:
  All of a sudden mail to this list is rejected. My IP can't be found.
  It always was, so this is weird. I checked with a dig
  @large.world.ns and a few others and they all resolved my name / IP
  OK.  I send this mail through my provider (which works). Anybody else
  experiencing this change in behaviour of the freebsd.org mailer ?
 
 Have you checked your e-mail server against blacklists? Its possible
 that it could be thinking that you are spammer?
 
 In your mail server logs are you getting any errors. They ususally
 include a reason for deferal or delay.

I'm sorry for the fuss, but it turns out that my isp provider indeed had
changed my IP without any warning (which they are allowed to do). In the
last five years or so they only did that twice but I never lost contact to
the internet. I guess they wiped out a whole segment of their network now
to replace it by something else.

Anyway, all's well again. Took some time for my MailhopRelay to pick up
the changes, but as you can see, the mail flows again too.

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cant get to my shell!

2006-07-27 Thread Marwan Sultan

Hello everyone,

 I was trying to install linux-flashplugin7 and in the same time was trying 
to play with libmap.conf

 then suddenly my system crush!
 after reboot, i got this error message

 Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:

 When i hit enter this error comes
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not found, 
required by -sh
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not found, 
required by sh

 and it comes again to  Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
 and nothing works, i cannot get into my shell,
 i tried to use fixit from sysinstall by using the emergency shell, to 
delete libmap.conf
 (asuming its cuzing the problem) but from the emergency shell u cannot see 
that file,

 I tried to /bin/csh/ and its giving the same error,
 single user mode, safe mode, all the same, giving the same error!!
 tried to google it but no results.

 the only place i can get is the emergency shell, from fixit.

 any help?
 Thank you
 Marwan.

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Re: vpn connection users+server

2006-07-27 Thread Marwan Sultan

Thank you people, for the many ideas, that have been giving,
im in process of testing it.

Again, thanks for the ideas, hint and answer.

thats why freebsd rocks, there is a complete army behind it.

Marwan


On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Marwan Sultan wrote:


Hello everyone,

Well, because really i didnot get an answer from the list regarding
release internet access based on time+auth.



SO I thought of the VPN connection,
i'm on fbsd 6.1R acting as internet gateway, i dunt want the users to 
randmly share the internet

Is it possible (and how to)  create a vpn connection thats
the user need to use to authnticate to the gateway server by a valid 
user/password


then the server will allow this user to have the internet,
is it possible?
the handbook scenario is for two networks sides,

Is it possible between a user and the gateway server?

Please your answers is highly appreciated.

Marwan



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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 7/27/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


- Original Message -
From: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Nick Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?


 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  - Original Message -
  From: Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nick Withers
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
 
 
  Burying your head in the sand is a common method
  used by stupid people that have no answer to the
  truth. I don't blame you; you guys don't want
  your employers to know that you've wasted man
  1000s of their dollars because you don't know the
  performance characteristics of the hardware
  you've recommended. It must be thoroughly
  embarrassing.
 [snip]

  I do agree with Danial that most USERS on this list are
  burying their heads in the sand on this issue.  But I will
  point out that there isn't really any reason they shouldn't
  be.  What the market wants is features, not speed.  And
  that is what the FreeBSD developers are working on.

 Features over speed is generally the right equation, yes.

 But I think you're being too generous to Danial. The quote of his
 above was in direct response to my assertion that many people refuse
 to listen to him because he frequently engages in cheap demagogy[1].


He does, but he is also right on this performance point.  The truth
can always be wrapped more palatably, but I think one of the differences
between a system administrator and a user is that a user can't deal with
the truth unless it's spoon fed in the nursery, an administrator should
be approaching it as a professional, which means ignoring the
irrelevant cheap demagogery and ignoring their own preconceptions of
how things are supposed to work, and paying attention to the kernels of
truth.

I have to sort through giant piles of horseshit every time I look at the
latest Cisco sales and marketing dreck, to find out what might be
important in one of their new products, this isn't any different.  And
frankly I find the saccherine cloying marketingspeak to be far more
disgusting and offensive then the lame kindergarden flames that
Danial has so far been able to come up with.

 His response? Another whole boatload of cheap demagogy, questioning
 the intelligence, aptitude and moral character of anyone who doesn't
 listen to him, by way of accusations that are wholly unsupported by
 facts. I could probably rest my case right there, but I think his
 perception (and yours) that people are not receptive to claims of
 FreeBSD performance problems is quite simply false.

 Every time a performance question is brought up, I see a flurry of
 calls for clarification and for the formulation of repeatable tests
 which are generally agreed to be an accurate gauge of the problem.

Calling for testing is pretty much a way of excusing the claim.  People
including Danial, have done the testing in the past, posted the results,
then had armchair quarterbacks pick apart the test methodology claiming
the tests were done wrong, thus irrelevant.  So why even bother doing
it anymore.

But, you asked for it, you got it:

Machine #1:  Compaq 1600R, FBSD 6.1  Pentium 3 550Mhz

freebsd-cvs# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun  1 17:23:18 PDT 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERICNOUSBNOFIRE
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (548.54-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x673  Stepping = 3

Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,
CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real memory  = 671088640 (640 MB)
avail memory = 647458816 (617 MB)
MPTable: COMPAQ   PROLIANT
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-34 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
cpu0 on motherboard
pcib0: MPTable Host-PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
pci0: display, VGA at device 11.0 (no driver attached)
pcib1: MPTable PCI-PCI bridge at device 13.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
tl0: Compaq Netelligent 10/100 Proliant port 0x3800-0x380f irq 30 at
device 7.0 on pci1
miibus0: MII bus on tl0
nsphy0: DP83840 10/100 media interface on miibus0
nsphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
tlphy0: ThunderLAN 10baseT media interface on miibus0
tlphy0:  10base2/BNC, 10base5/AUI
tl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:8b:f1:82:17
sym0: 875 port 0x3000-0x30ff mem

KDE graphical interface ver3

2006-07-27 Thread Mr. B
I am trying to install KDE to lauch athe graphical interface at start up.
  I am recieving the following errors
  X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
  Uable to fire up local display :0; disabling
  I have tried several variations to over for a several days trying get it to 
work.
  Any ideas based on the errors privided 


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Re: help installing FreeBSD

2006-07-27 Thread John Murphy
adrian esquivel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I had similar errors reported when I tried to install FreeBSD from a
CDRom drive which was connected to the motherboard with a standard
udma(33?) ribbon cable (Yes write errors).  Make sure your connectors
are the better 80 conductor ones.

Thanks John but how do I do that??

There are some pictures at the end of this article:

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html

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Re: Locate updatedb

2006-07-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Elijah Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Running 6.1 fresh install one of my routines after installing is
 updating the locate database but I am getting errors and it is not
 fulling updating.

 locate: integer out of +-MAXPATHLEN (1024): 1027
 locate: integer out of +-MAXPATHLEN (1024): 1027

You have paths that are over 1024 characters long.
Tell updatedb not to use them (/etc/locate.rc exists for this).
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Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs

2006-07-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Don't top-post, please.

Rob Connon (Info) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The system completly locks up, attached keyboard is useless.. and as
 mentioned no errors.. the only pattern is tuesday/wednesday it
 freezes.. other days of the week it's fine under heavy load..
 buildworlds are not a problem..

So you tried a debugging kernel and couldn't break to the debugger?
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vr0 interface and VLAN tagging

2006-07-27 Thread William

Hi list,

I'm trying to get a FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE (running GENERIC kernel) to do
vlan tagging.

I want to have several 'vlan interfaces' that can talk to their local
subnet and also use a default route.

On the switch side of things I'm using a Cisco 3550 runing layer3
code, I've had this working before with a em driver (on another box)
but my setup was a little different then so I'm pretty sure the switch
isnt at fault?

My rc.conf looks like:

cloned_interfaces=vlan100 vlan200 vlan233
ifconfig_vr0=up
ifconfig_vlan100=inet 192.168.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 100 vlandev vr0
ifconfig_vlan200=inet 192.168.200.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 200 vlandev vr0
ifconfig_vlan233=inet 10.233.233.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 233 vlandev vr0
ifconfig_vr0=inet 10.254.254.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 media
100baseTX mediaopt ull-duplex
defaultrouter=10.254.254.254

and my switch config looks like this:

interface FastEthernet0/12
 switchport access vlan 254
 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
 switchport trunk allowed vlan 100,200,233
 switchport mode trunk
logging event trunk-status
duplex full
speed 100
end

I'm getting to the point that the vlan interfaces (100,200,233) can
talk to machines on their subnet but I cannot seem to ping anything on
the 10.254.254.0/24 subnet (ip address applied to vr0 interface) or
anythnig via the default route.

If anyone can assist me I'd appreciate it, please contact me off list
as I am not subscribed to -questions.

Cheers,

Will
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Re: Replacing windows XP at home.

2006-07-27 Thread David Robillard

I have a hard question to ask and I realize that there are thousand answers to 
this question.


Here's a quick URL which can help decide on which Window Manager one
might use. It has a comprehensive list of many WM with descriptions
and screenshots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager

Have fun,

David

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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread David Robillard

How many out there are *still* running 4.x on their servers and desktops, for 
similar fears?


We still have some old Compaq ML530 machines running FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p17.
They provide essential web services, mainly authentication and MySQL databases.

FreeBSD 5.x and 6.0 can't boot on this hardware because of ACPI
related problems. I recently gave 6.1 a try and it works. The ACPI
error is still there, but the system can bypass this problem and it
runs fine. But since the services that the 4.x boxes provide are
critical, I'm still not comfortable to switch them to 6.1.

So for security reasons (4.x is getting old...) I've isolated the 4.x
machines in their own DMZ. I'll wait for new hardware to replace these
machines instead of upgrading them to another version of FreeBSD.

David

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RE: Replacing windows XP at home.

2006-07-27 Thread Joshua Lewis

   Thank you to everyone who gave me some ideas. That was a great help.
   It looks like I am going to need to install more then one WM and just
   figure out which one suits my needs the best. Thanks again.
   Sincerely,
   Joshua Lewis
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Promise Technology RAID Controller

2006-07-27 Thread PATRICK CARTER
Hey all,

I was looking at getting a hardware RAID controller (that supports RAID 5) for 
my system and I saw the FastTrak SX4100 from Promise Technology.  I didn't see 
FreeBSD listed under their list of supported operating systems and I was 
wondering if anyone knew weather or not anyone knew if there exists a driver 
that works for FreeBSD.

Many Thanks.
--Patrick
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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Greg Barniskis

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


Calling for testing is pretty much a way of excusing the claim.  People
including Danial, have done the testing in the past, posted the results,
then had armchair quarterbacks pick apart the test methodology claiming
the tests were done wrong, thus irrelevant.  So why even bother doing
it anymore.


No, testing is the only way to isolate the root cause and get it 
fixed. And there must be consensus that the testing methodology is 
in fact valid vs. the hypothesis. Without consensus on its validity, 
then yes, that test /is/ irrelevant and proves nothing. That's not a 
reason to forego pursuit of forming an accepted test methodology, 
and certainly not a reason to demonize those saying that a 
particular test is not valid. Saying so is just another hypothesis.


I'm not saying there aren't problems (and I really don't think many 
others are either). I'm just saying that finding the root cause is 
not a simple matter, and that calling for consensus-approved tests 
and positing alternative theories isn't any kind of evasion, even if 
it seems on the face of it to question the very validity of the 
claim that there is a problem.


Testing and the search for the real root cause actually must 
question the validity of the hypothesis and propose alternative 
explanations and tests. Otherwise the earth would still be flat, and 
we'd all be lucky to eat every day, much less work on computers! =)


So, Occam's Razor just cuts and cuts and cuts, /because it has to/. 
Thus, anyone making a hypothesis has to be prepared to have umpteen 
other people attempt to shred all of their precious assumptions. 
Only assumptions that by consensus survive repeated attempts to 
shred them are actually considered to be valid.


Trolls tend to cling to shredded assumptions as if they were still 
valid. They begin to regard the wielders of Occam's Razor as their 
enemies, and this causes conflict that is wholly unproductive. 
That's where the process really goes wrong in a big way, and the 
people who would be allies (in that they are in fact eager to test, 
isolate and fix any validated problem) will start to walk away.


Shredded assumptions need to be abandoned and new testable 
assumptions need to be asserted. Then the shredding effort needs to 
start all over again. Lather, rinse, repeat until there is consensus 
that valid testing has in fact isolated the truth, because Occam's 
Razor just can't slice things any thinner. There is no other way.

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Re: help installing FreeBSD

2006-07-27 Thread David Stanford

I'm sorry, I think I didn't explain it very well...
When I choose the media type, a message is shown warning that '...this is
the last chance... we can take no responsabillity. I hit 'ok' and then a
message appears saying 'writing partitions...' and a few seconds later
appears one message saying  'Unable to make new root filesystem on
/dev/ad0s1a! Command returned status 36' (sometimes the 'Command returned
status 1'). I hit 'ok' and then appears: 'Couldn't make filesystems
properly. Aborting'. And finally the last message I receive is 'Instalation
completed with some errors. You may wish to scroll through...' At this point
is where I press Alt+F2 and the errors (the WRITE_DMA errors) are shown. Is
not necessary to press Alt+F2 but I read it somewhere. I hope you know now
where do these errors are shown, if not please respond me again and I'll try
to explain it better.
By the way, I don't think is the checksum because I was trying to install
FreeBSD 5.4 at first and the same error occured, but I will check the
checksum, is just that... excuse my ignorance, but what is the checksum of
my ISO image and how do I verify it Sorry I know that is a stupid
question...



As somebody already mentioned, it could very well be an issue with your hard
drive - but the simplest thing to do is first verify that your ISO and,
thus, your CDROM image aren't corrupt. A checksum is basically a value
generated from a data file using some sort of calculation method (in this
case, using an md5 hash). This value can then be later used to verify
nothing has changed in the data
file and that you have downloaded it with no errors. This is a common
thing to see in the open source world. If you want more information on
this, more can be found from
wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checksum
. If you are downloading on a Windows machine, you can use the md5sum
utility (download
here http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
). Once you have the ISO file, you can simpy place both the md5sum.exe
utility and ISO in the same directory and run it like so:

C:\Documents and Settings\dstanford\Desktop*md5sum.exe
6.1-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso*

This will generate a value which you can then compare with what the
valueshould be,
hereftp://ftp1.us.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/CHECKSUM.MD5.
If the two values match up, then you know the downloaded file (ISO) is the
same as the one on the server and that there were no errors while
downloading.

Good luck!

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Corrupt pkgdb

2006-07-27 Thread Joshua Lewis

   I am setting up a new system and ran a portupgrade -a. Unfortunately I
   also in my arrogance tried to run XDM while the portupgrade was
   running. Well to make a long story short I could not exit out of XDM
   and get back to my console and had to reboot the system. Now I get an
   error that my pkgdb is corrupt when I try to rerun the portupgrade.



   Is there a way to rebuild that DB or do I have to reinstall the whole
   OS? I don't know how that pkgdb gets created so I don't know if it is
   created during the install or when I installed portupgrade.



   Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
   Sincerely,
   Joshua Lewis
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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Nick Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?


 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

  Calling for testing is pretty much a way of excusing the claim.  People
  including Danial, have done the testing in the past, posted the results,
  then had armchair quarterbacks pick apart the test methodology claiming
  the tests were done wrong, thus irrelevant.  So why even bother doing
  it anymore.

 No,

YES.

Calling for testing is bullcrap.  If you want to refute a statement then
do your own damn testing.

 testing is the only way to isolate the root cause and get it
 fixed. And there must be consensus that the testing methodology is
 in fact valid vs. the hypothesis. Without consensus on its validity,
 then yes, that test /is/ irrelevant and proves nothing. That's not a
 reason to forego pursuit of forming an accepted test methodology,
 and certainly not a reason to demonize those saying that a
 particular test is not valid. Saying so is just another hypothesis.


The above paragraph is all true.  Your attaching a true paragraph to
a false no with a comma in order to imbue a false statement (your no)
with truthfulness.  Basic debating tactic.

 I'm not saying there aren't problems (and I really don't think many
 others are either).

OK, now your negating everything you just said?

 I'm just saying that finding the root cause is
 not a simple matter,

I never said it was.

 and that calling for consensus-approved tests
 and positing alternative theories isn't any kind of evasion, even if
 it seems on the face of it to question the very validity of the
 claim that there is a problem.


It is an evasion if all your doing is calling for testing and not doing even
some very basic basic testing - like I did - to attempt to refute or
support the statement.

 Testing and the search for the real root cause actually must
 question the validity of the hypothesis and propose alternative
 explanations and tests. Otherwise the earth would still be flat, and
 we'd all be lucky to eat every day, much less work on computers! =)


Testing and the search for the root cause doesen't question the validity
of the hypothesis, why don't you understand this?  testing RESULTS are
what question or support the validity of the hypothesis.  Until you start
doing the research, gathering facts, then your just blowing air up someone's
ass.

 So, Occam's Razor just cuts and cuts and cuts, /because it has to/.
 Thus, anyone making a hypothesis has to be prepared to have umpteen
 other people attempt to shred all of their precious assumptions.

Which they do by - what?  Posting test results as I have done.  Not
by just lazily calling for test results

 Only assumptions that by consensus survive repeated attempts to
 shred them are actually considered to be valid.

 Trolls tend to cling to shredded assumptions as if they were still
 valid. They begin to regard the wielders of Occam's Razor as their
 enemies, and this causes conflict that is wholly unproductive.
 That's where the process really goes wrong in a big way, and the
 people who would be allies (in that they are in fact eager to test,
 isolate and fix any validated problem) will start to walk away.


If they aren't interested in testing they are idiots.  If a troll makes a
claim
like the newer versions of freeBSd are slower, and all these people who
would be allies as you term them, already have test results they have
made that prove the opposite, then it is fine for them to walk away.
But, in this case, they don't.  They just are walking away because they
don't like the message or how it's presented.

 Shredded assumptions need to be abandoned and new testable
 assumptions need to be asserted. Then the shredding effort needs to
 start all over again. Lather, rinse, repeat until there is consensus
 that valid testing has in fact isolated the truth, because Occam's
 Razor just can't slice things any thinner. There is no other way.


Fine, then start by shredding the assumption that the newer versions of
FreeBSD are faster.

Ted

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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread jan gestre

On 7/27/06, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2006-07-26 18:59, Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darrin Chandler wrote:
 Do you see that if support in 4.x had been based on open specs from
 Adaptec that this issue would not exist? Adaptec is controlling your
 ability to use their product, and that's the real problem. It's
 consumer-hostile, unless you fit their perfect picture of
 consumer. You don't, so you're left in the cold.

 I think you are missing the point here. It is 'THEIR PRODUCT'. They
 can do with it as they wish. If you are unhappy with their product,
 then don't use it.

Darrin is not missing the point.  He is just making a different point,
which is (for many people, including me) quite valid.

 Most corporation are primarily interested in profits. Nothing wrong
 with that. I like making money, as I assume you do. Obviously they
 have weight the cost of producing FSBD compatible products and
 concluded that it would not be profitable to do so. Unless you could
 produce enough evidence to show them otherwise, I fear that you are
 simply beating a dead horse here.

If the technical specifications are open, there is *zero* support cost
for the hardware vendor.  They don't even _have_ to make a driver for
their hardware.  What they *can* do though is reply to requests for an
open source driver with: ``Piss off!  We have you the technical specs,
so you can write your own.  Our development and support costs would not
be justified, but here's the spec... give it your best shot.''

*This* is the point Darrin is trying to make :)

and if i may add, if they don't provide FreeBSD drivers for their
products, its their loss, they won't earn anything from FreeBSD users coz we
won't buy or stay away from their products. and i also think the reason they
are discontinuing support for FreeBSD 6 onwards coz they feel we are just
few and won't make a significant increase in their profit driven company,
one way of making us heard is by letting them know how many we are, why not
bombard them with request for support, IMO once they notice how many we are,
i'm pretty sure they'll give in.




just my 2  cents worth.
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Re: Corrupt pkgdb

2006-07-27 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Thursday 27 July 2006 07:05, Joshua Lewis wrote:
I am setting up a new system and ran a portupgrade -a. Unfortunately I
also in my arrogance tried to run XDM while the portupgrade was
running. Well to make a long story short I could not exit out of XDM
and get back to my console and had to reboot the system. Now I get an
error that my pkgdb is corrupt when I try to rerun the portupgrade.



Is there a way to rebuild that DB or do I have to reinstall the whole
OS? I don't know how that pkgdb gets created so I don't know if it is
created during the install or when I installed portupgrade.



Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Joshua Lewis

Just rm or mv /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and it will be rebuilt the next time you 
run portupgrade.

Beech

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Re: Configure postfix to forward to isp smtp server?

2006-07-27 Thread jan gestre

On 7/27/06, Charles Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:46 PM, Chris T. wrote:
 I am trying to create a home mail gateway.  First thing is getting
 it to relay messages to my ISP as if I had connected directly to
 the isp in the first place.

Set:

relayhost = [mailserver.isp.net]

...in main.cf.

 That is without adding any information to headers to reveal that it
 went through my smtp server.

It's a requirement for MTAs to add Received: headers as the mail
passes through them to avoid mailing loops.  Trying to subvert this
is a bad idea...

 I also want to create a repositry of sent email for logging
 purposes.  I'm trying to look up the documentation and searching
 for messages that would answer what I want to do but it's a chicken
 and egg senerio in that I don't know the correct terms for the
 answers to search to find the answers.  Any help is appreciated.

Normally, your mail client will keep track of all Sent messages if
you configure it properly.  That's a better choice than having the
MTA do it, but you can look into the content_filter mechanism to
archive mail which passes through if you really want to do so.

also make sure that your isp allows mail forwarding.


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Re: Corrupt pkgdb

2006-07-27 Thread Bryan Bonifacio
From man portupgrade... 

1) Try a pkgdb -fu
2) If it doesn't work, remove the database file at
(/var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db) and
3)  Rerun pkgdb -fu 

Hope this helps...

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Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   I am setting up a new system and ran a portupgrade -a. Unfortunately I
   also in my arrogance tried to run XDM while the portupgrade was
   running. Well to make a long story short I could not exit out of XDM
   and get back to my console and had to reboot the system. Now I get an
   error that my pkgdb is corrupt when I try to rerun the portupgrade.



   Is there a way to rebuild that DB or do I have to reinstall the whole
   OS? I don't know how that pkgdb gets created so I don't know if it is
   created during the install or when I installed portupgrade.



   Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
   Sincerely,
   Joshua Lewis
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very strange sockets problem

2006-07-27 Thread Steel City Phantom
im running bas 6.1, java 1.5 and jboss 4.  i have a servlet that 
interfaces with a bank over a socket connection.  pretty basic setup.  
everything works fine for the current two banks that we interface with.  
i am in the process of trying to bring up a third bank.  the socket 
opens correctly, transmitts the transaction correctly, the bank 
correctly receives it, processes it, and sends me a response.  the 
moment that the response hits my read buffer, the connection drops and i 
recieve no data.


i have eliminated all hardware in between the two systems.  i dumped the 
traffic with tcpdump and the machine does actually receive the data.  me 
and my team of developers are stumped, jboss support is stumped, i was 
wondering if any of you guys could think of something.


thanks
wilie

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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Nick Withers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?


 On 7/27/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Nick Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
 
 
   Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nick Withers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
   
   
Burying your head in the sand is a common method
used by stupid people that have no answer to the
truth. I don't blame you; you guys don't want
your employers to know that you've wasted man
1000s of their dollars because you don't know the
performance characteristics of the hardware
you've recommended. It must be thoroughly
embarrassing.
   [snip]
  
I do agree with Danial that most USERS on this list are
burying their heads in the sand on this issue.  But I will
point out that there isn't really any reason they shouldn't
be.  What the market wants is features, not speed.  And
that is what the FreeBSD developers are working on.
  
   Features over speed is generally the right equation, yes.
  
   But I think you're being too generous to Danial. The quote of his
   above was in direct response to my assertion that many people refuse
   to listen to him because he frequently engages in cheap demagogy[1].
  
 
  He does, but he is also right on this performance point.  The truth
  can always be wrapped more palatably, but I think one of the differences
  between a system administrator and a user is that a user can't deal with
  the truth unless it's spoon fed in the nursery, an administrator should
  be approaching it as a professional, which means ignoring the
  irrelevant cheap demagogery and ignoring their own preconceptions of
  how things are supposed to work, and paying attention to the kernels
of
  truth.
 
  I have to sort through giant piles of horseshit every time I look at the
  latest Cisco sales and marketing dreck, to find out what might be
  important in one of their new products, this isn't any different.  And
  frankly I find the saccherine cloying marketingspeak to be far more
  disgusting and offensive then the lame kindergarden flames that
  Danial has so far been able to come up with.
 
   His response? Another whole boatload of cheap demagogy, questioning
   the intelligence, aptitude and moral character of anyone who doesn't
   listen to him, by way of accusations that are wholly unsupported by
   facts. I could probably rest my case right there, but I think his
   perception (and yours) that people are not receptive to claims of
   FreeBSD performance problems is quite simply false.
  
   Every time a performance question is brought up, I see a flurry of
   calls for clarification and for the formulation of repeatable tests
   which are generally agreed to be an accurate gauge of the problem.
 
  Calling for testing is pretty much a way of excusing the claim.  People
  including Danial, have done the testing in the past, posted the results,
  then had armchair quarterbacks pick apart the test methodology claiming
  the tests were done wrong, thus irrelevant.  So why even bother doing
  it anymore.
 
  But, you asked for it, you got it:
 
  Machine #1:  Compaq 1600R, FBSD 6.1  Pentium 3 550Mhz
 
  freebsd-cvs# dmesg
  Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
  Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved.
  FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun  1 17:23:18 PDT 2006
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERICNOUSBNOFIRE
  Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
  CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (548.54-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x673  Stepping = 3
 
 
Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,
  CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
  real memory  = 671088640 (640 MB)
  avail memory = 647458816 (617 MB)
  MPTable: COMPAQ   PROLIANT
  ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8
  ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
  ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-34 on motherboard
  kbd1 at kbdmux0
  cpu0 on motherboard
  pcib0: MPTable Host-PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard
  pci0: PCI 

Re: Promise Technology RAID Controller

2006-07-27 Thread Richard Collyer

PATRICK CARTER wrote:

Hey all,

I was looking at getting a hardware RAID controller (that supports RAID 5) for 
my system and I saw the FastTrak SX4100 from Promise Technology.  I didn't see 
FreeBSD listed under their list of supported operating systems and I was 
wondering if anyone knew weather or not anyone knew if there exists a driver 
that works for FreeBSD.


http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/5-STABLE/hardware/i386/support.html#DISK

change 5-STABLE for OS of choice and take a look. I'd hazard a guess at 
it is simply by the number of other adaptec cards listed.


Richard

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Re: very strange sockets problem

2006-07-27 Thread Chuck Swiger

Steel City Phantom wrote:
[ ... ]
i have eliminated all hardware in between the two systems.  i dumped the 
traffic with tcpdump and the machine does actually receive the data.  me 
and my team of developers are stumped, jboss support is stumped, i was 
wondering if any of you guys could think of something.


Lack of data.  Post a verbose tcpdump trace, anonymizing the IPs if you feel 
you must...and double-check your firewall logs, especially if NAT is involved 
anywhere in the network topology.


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Re: Promise Technology RAID Controller

2006-07-27 Thread PATRICK CARTER
I did not see it listed and afaik there is no official support.  The nearest 
thing I saw was a manual entry on ataraid from quite a while back suggesting 
that RAID 5 wasn't supported, but I was wondering if anyone had managed to get 
any success with the card (since from my understanding ataraid is for OS 
controlled RAID and I'm looking at a hardware/firmware controller). Also, I did 
forget to mention that the system in question is FreeBSD 6.1 and I'm looking to 
boot off of this array (although if anyone was a working system that won't boot 
from the array I'm still interested).


Thanks
--Patrick

- Original Message -
From: Richard Collyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:52 am
Subject: Re: Promise Technology RAID Controller

 PATRICK CARTER wrote:
  Hey all,
  
  I was looking at getting a hardware RAID controller (that 
 supports RAID 5) for my system and I saw the FastTrak SX4100 from 
 Promise Technology.  I didn't see FreeBSD listed under their list 
 of supported operating systems and I was wondering if anyone knew 
 weather or not anyone knew if there exists a driver that works for 
 FreeBSD.
 http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/5-
 STABLE/hardware/i386/support.html#DISK
 change 5-STABLE for OS of choice and take a look. I'd hazard a 
 guess at 
 it is simply by the number of other adaptec cards listed.
 
 Richard
 
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smb issue

2006-07-27 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
After loading ichsmb, smbus and smb, dmesg reports:

ichsmb0: Intel 82801DC (ICH4) SMBus controller port 0x1880-0x189f irq
10 at device 31.3 on pci0
ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
smbus0: System Management Bus on ichsmb0
smb0: SMBus generic I/O on smbus0


Then, mbmon -d -S gives:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/sveinhal]$ mbmon -d -S
SMBus[Intel8XX(ICH/ICH2/ICH3/ICH4/ICH5/ICH6)] found, but No HWM
available on it!!
InitMBInfo: Device not configured

smbmsg -p gives:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/sveinhal]$ smbmsg -p
Probing for devices on /dev/smb0:
Device @0x2c: rw
*waiting, and waiting*
^C

dmesg then shows hundreds of these:

ichsmb0: device timeout, status=0x41


Any clue?



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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 7/27/06, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 7/27/06, Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2006-07-26 18:59, Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Darrin Chandler wrote:
  Do you see that if support in 4.x had been based on open specs from
  Adaptec that this issue would not exist? Adaptec is controlling your
  ability to use their product, and that's the real problem. It's
  consumer-hostile, unless you fit their perfect picture of
  consumer. You don't, so you're left in the cold.
 
  I think you are missing the point here. It is 'THEIR PRODUCT'. They
  can do with it as they wish. If you are unhappy with their product,
  then don't use it.

 Darrin is not missing the point.  He is just making a different point,
 which is (for many people, including me) quite valid.

  Most corporation are primarily interested in profits. Nothing wrong
  with that. I like making money, as I assume you do. Obviously they
  have weight the cost of producing FSBD compatible products and
  concluded that it would not be profitable to do so. Unless you could
  produce enough evidence to show them otherwise, I fear that you are
  simply beating a dead horse here.

 If the technical specifications are open, there is *zero* support cost
 for the hardware vendor.  They don't even _have_ to make a driver for
 their hardware.  What they *can* do though is reply to requests for an
 open source driver with: ``Piss off!  We have you the technical specs,
 so you can write your own.  Our development and support costs would not
 be justified, but here's the spec... give it your best shot.''

 *This* is the point Darrin is trying to make :)

 and if i may add, if they don't provide FreeBSD drivers for their
 products, its their loss, they won't earn anything from FreeBSD users coz we
 won't buy or stay away from their products. and i also think the reason they
 are discontinuing support for FreeBSD 6 onwards coz they feel we are just
 few and won't make a significant increase in their profit driven company,
 one way of making us heard is by letting them know how many we are, why not
 bombard them with request for support, IMO once they notice how many we are,
 i'm pretty sure they'll give in.




Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting are
pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't work
on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve it's
uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor
doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing open
documentation.

What we really need is score card to keep track of the good and bad
companies. Someone with initiative could have this up and running in a
day or less... After it's up we can put a BIG HONKING LINK on the
FreeBSD main page.

The second thing everyone (All who use X) needs to do is get AMD to
force ATI's hand into releasing documentation. This should not be hard
to do because ATI's lead counsel is on the way out.



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Re: Promise Technology RAID Controller

2006-07-27 Thread Eric
PATRICK CARTER wrote:
 I did not see it listed and afaik there is no official support.  The nearest 
 thing I saw was a manual entry on ataraid from quite a while back suggesting 
 that RAID 5 wasn't supported, but I was wondering if anyone had managed to 
 get any success with the card (since from my understanding ataraid is for OS 
 controlled RAID and I'm looking at a hardware/firmware controller). Also, I 
 did forget to mention that the system in question is FreeBSD 6.1 and I'm 
 looking to boot off of this array (although if anyone was a working system 
 that won't boot from the array I'm still interested).
 
 

best bet is a 3ware card or Areca. Both work well from what i have seen
on the list and I use 3ware cards in a few of the machines i manage.
They work out of the box.

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Re: Promise Technology RAID Controller

2006-07-27 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 7/27/06, PATRICK CARTER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey all,

I was looking at getting a hardware RAID controller (that supports RAID 5) for 
my system and I saw the FastTrak SX4100 from Promise Technology.  I didn't see 
FreeBSD listed under their list of supported operating systems and I was 
wondering if anyone knew weather or not anyone knew if there exists a driver 
that works for FreeBSD.



Promise does not have a very good relationship with FreeBSD. It would
be better if you found another vendor to work with. Areca HighPoint,
and 3ware come to mind. Also stay way from Adaptec.



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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:50:57PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 
 Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting are
 pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't work
 on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve it's
 uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor
 doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing open
 documentation.
 
 What we really need is score card to keep track of the good and bad
 companies. Someone with initiative could have this up and running in a
 day or less... After it's up we can put a BIG HONKING LINK on the
 FreeBSD main page.

It's not FBSD specific, but there's http://www.vendorwatch.org/, which
is trying to do exactly that. They've got some good info, and I believe
they would welcome any updates or info on companies that they don't
have.

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Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs

2006-07-27 Thread Rob Connon (Info)

Lowell Gilbert wrote:


Don't top-post, please.


 

LOL sorry, it came from my cell phone, i updated to 6.1 - Release, 
hopefully i'll have better luck, i'll keep you posted.


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Xircom Cardbus ethernet 10/100+Modem 56

2006-07-27 Thread Ian Lord

Hi,

As anyone been successful at using xircom cardbus cards under freebsd ?

When the system boots, the modem gets detected, the network card also 
(as DC0) but I get a bunch of these messages:


CARDBUS1 Ressource Not Specified in CIS

No Station address in CIS

If I remove the card while booting and insert it after the system is 
booted, the computer crash and reboots


It's strange because the card is in the compatibility list... The 
card works fine on windows and linux also


Anyone has a clue on how to fix this ?

Thanks
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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Amitabh Kant

And this is what I always do. As a person responsible for
recommending/approving/buying harware related stuff for few different
companies, I make it a point that I *prefer* only those brands that
have support for FreeBSD. For me, this is more so in case of RAID
cards.

On 7/27/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting are
pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't work
on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve it's
uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor
doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing open
documentation.



I see the whole issue this way: companies are free to choose whether
to support FreeBSD or not, and I am free to choose/recommend their
product in my installations. It's only when we start to speak with our
money bags, that it will make commercial sense to them to support
*BSD.

Amitabh
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Re: smb issue

2006-07-27 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
 After loading ichsmb, smbus and smb, dmesg reports:
 
 ichsmb0: Intel 82801DC (ICH4) SMBus controller port 0x1880-0x189f irq
 10 at device 31.3 on pci0
 ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 smbus0: System Management Bus on ichsmb0
 smb0: SMBus generic I/O on smbus0
 
 
 Then, mbmon -d -S gives:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/sveinhal]$ mbmon -d -S
 SMBus[Intel8XX(ICH/ICH2/ICH3/ICH4/ICH5/ICH6)] found, but No HWM
 available on it!!
 InitMBInfo: Device not configured
 
 smbmsg -p gives:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/sveinhal]$ smbmsg -p
 Probing for devices on /dev/smb0:
 Device @0x2c: rw
 *waiting, and waiting*
 ^C
 
 dmesg then shows hundreds of these:
 
 ichsmb0: device timeout, status=0x41
 
 
 Any clue?

kldload smb?

cheers Erik

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user permissions

2006-07-27 Thread eoghan

Hi
I have a user that I use for doing the odd bit of work on my  
freebsd-6.1-RELEASE machine.

I wanted to set apache to work from:
/home/user/public_html/
instead of the default location. I can create these folders no  
problems but i have to do it as root:

mkdir /home/user/public_html/
How do I ensure my user can copy files from gui (gnome) to this  
folder. Im told I dont have permission to copy to this folder.
Also apache tells me I dont have permission when I change the  
DocumentRoot to point to /home/user/public_html/
Just not sure how to go about giving a user permissions on files/ 
folders I want them to be able to edit. Any pointers?

Thanks
Eoghan
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Re: Replacing windows XP at home.

2006-07-27 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Icewm since noone else mentioned it. It is small and light, very 
attractive (I think) and is quite windows like in its look so windows 
users find it quite accessible. Fluxbox is also nice if you want 
something light but I chose icewm over fluxbox when setting up pentium 1 
desktops for windows users because of its more windows-ish look


Chris

Joshua Lewis wrote:

   Thank you to everyone who gave me some ideas. That was a great help.
   It looks like I am going to need to install more then one WM and just
   figure out which one suits my needs the best. Thanks again.
   Sincerely,
   Joshua Lewis
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2006-07-27 Thread Brian J. McGovern
 On the switch side of things I'm using a Cisco 3550 runing layer3
 code, I've had this working before with a em driver (on another box)
 but my setup was a little different then so I'm pretty sure the switch
 isnt at fault?

Is the vr interface capable of sending  1500 byte MTUs? Its not in the vlan(4)
man page. This could be one area to look at, or, if its one of the other causes 
below, you may have issues with big packets.

 My rc.conf looks like:
 
 cloned_interfaces=vlan100 vlan200 vlan233
 ifconfig_vr0=up
 ifconfig_vlan100=inet 192.168.100.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 100 vlandev 
 vr0
 ifconfig_vlan200=inet 192.168.200.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 200 vlandev 
 vr0
 ifconfig_vlan233=inet 10.233.233.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 233 vlandev 
 vr0
 ifconfig_vr0=inet 10.254.254.252 netmask 255.255.255.0 media100baseTX 
 mediaopt full-duplex
 defaultrouter=10.254.254.254

This looks reasonable. However, your first ifconfig_vr0 line will get 
overridden by the second, and is therefore redundant. Does ifconfig -a
confirm that everything gets set up ok?

 and my switch config looks like this:
 
 interface FastEthernet0/12
   switchport access vlan 254
   switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
   switchport trunk allowed vlan 100,200,233
   switchport mode trunk
  logging event trunk-status
  duplex full
  speed 100
 end

The switchport access vlan 254 looks suspect. A trunking port shouldn't
have access port parameters. You're also missing vlan 1. See below...

 I'm getting to the point that the vlan interfaces (100,200,233) can
 talk to machines on their subnet but I cannot seem to ping anything on
 the 10.254.254.0/24 subnet (ip address applied to vr0 interface) or
 anythnig via the default route.

Well, if you can't ping anything on the subnet, that would assume you can't
reach the default gateway, and therefore, its not surprising you can't
ping anything further upstream :)

From what I see here, you never allow vlan1 to travel on your trunk. vr0, as 
an unvlan'ed 
interface, will default to vlan1 with dot1q.

 If anyone can assist me I'd appreciate it, please contact me off list
 as I am not subscribed to -questions.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Will
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Re: Replacing windows XP at home.

2006-07-27 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 7/26/06, Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   I have a hard question to ask and I realize that there are a thousand
   answers to this question.



   I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished
   installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window
   manager.




I use KDE, a large part of the reason is the apps. Opera, Amarok, K3B,
Qalculate, Quanta Plus, Koffice 1.5, Kaffeine, Konsole, Kate/Kdevelop,
KPatience. I could keep going... anyways... I came to KDE in a round
about way, my general path looks something like this:

Apple IIgs -- DOS/Win3.x/Win9x/WinNT -- RadHat 5 -- SuSE -- Win2k
-- Linux -- Gnome/FreeBSD 4.7 -- XFCE/FreeBSD -- KDE/FreeBSD
5.3+/6.x.

I should also add that I regularly use Mac OS X by choice at work. I
think the best suggestion I can offer you is to try everything.


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Re: Replacing windows XP at home.

2006-07-27 Thread Sean

Joshua Lewis wrote:


   Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I
   start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing
   something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up
   bloating my system any ways right?



Look at them both and make a choice if you like either.
I tried both in the past, but found they were not for me for various 
reasons, so I went looking,  also tried Xfce as has been mentioned, but 
I decided I wanted to try something really different from things that 
seemed Windows like.


Tried WindowMaker and have been using it now for a long time. Here is 
the url www.windowmaker.info if you are interested.
As you requested lean and fast, little slow getting started, only 
because it is very different in the approach of say Gnome, KDE, or Xfce, 
but once you get used to it, works great. I also like dock apps, which 
you can get more info at http://dockapps.org/


Good Luck,
Sean
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Re: user permissions

2006-07-27 Thread jan gestre

On 7/28/06, eoghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi
I have a user that I use for doing the odd bit of work on my
freebsd-6.1-RELEASE machine.
I wanted to set apache to work from:
/home/user/public_html/
instead of the default location. I can create these folders no
problems but i have to do it as root:
mkdir /home/user/public_html/
How do I ensure my user can copy files from gui (gnome) to this
folder. Im told I dont have permission to copy to this folder.
Also apache tells me I dont have permission when I change the
DocumentRoot to point to /home/user/public_html/
Just not sure how to go about giving a user permissions on files/
folders I want them to be able to edit. Any pointers?
Thanks
Eoghan



the default permission for apache assuming you are using apache22 is 755,
changing it to 777 will have security repercusions, why not add that user to
group that owns/runs apache or give that user sudo power.

HTH
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Re: Replacing windows XP at home.

2006-07-27 Thread Greg Groth

doug wrote:



On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, RW wrote:


On Wednesday 26 July 2006 16:23, Joshua Lewis wrote:


   KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also
   been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have
   looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick.

   Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I
   start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing
   something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up
   bloating my system any ways right?



KDE is mostly application modules, which you don't need to install if 
you dont

want them. These days, though, the avoidance of bloat is mostly just a
fetish.  I've not noticed any speed difference between KDE and the 
lighter

window managers for years. And as far as disk space is concerned we are
talking about pennies. I've tried fluxbox and the like off-and-on, but I
always miss some KDE feature within minutes.

Personally I don't like Gnome, it's less polished than KDE by a 
sustantial

margin; and while upgrading KDE is always easy, Gnome's complex depencies
mean that a special script has to be run, and even that doesn't always 
work.


I agree with this thought. There is a wrapper port/package kde-lite. I 
run kde on a 400Mhz laptop and mostly can not tell the difference 
between using that and my new thinkpad. OpenOffice is much, much, ..., 
better the kdeoffice. The ultimate lightweight window manager is twm. It 
is built into X. I use it to install KDE. All of this is very personal. 
It is well worth finding the one you like.


If kde-lite is too much, you can just install kde-base, kde-libs, 
kde-admin  kde-utils and end up with kde having close to the 
functionality of new XP install.  I think the only thing that's missing 
are the games, Media Player and a messenger client.


Greg Groth
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Re: smb issue

2006-07-27 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
 Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
 After loading ichsmb, smbus and smb, dmesg reports:
:

Erik Nørgaard wrote:
 kldload smb?

What did I just say? (quoted as a hint :-P)

Svein Halvor



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Re: user permissions

2006-07-27 Thread Benjamin Ruston

eoghan wrote:

Hi
I have a user that I use for doing the odd bit of work on my 
freebsd-6.1-RELEASE machine.

I wanted to set apache to work from:
/home/user/public_html/
instead of the default location. I can create these folders no 
problems but i have to do it as root:

mkdir /home/user/public_html/
How do I ensure my user can copy files from gui (gnome) to this 
folder. Im told I dont have permission to copy to this folder.
Also apache tells me I dont have permission when I change the 
DocumentRoot to point to /home/user/public_html/
Just not sure how to go about giving a user permissions on 
files/folders I want them to be able to edit. Any pointers?

Thanks
Eoghan
To change a directory ownership use chown user /home/user/public_html 
obviously substituting user for the desired username. As for your 
public_html issues, you need to search your apache configuration file 
for the UserDir module section and if it's disabled, enable it. Mine 
looks like this:


IfModule userdir_module
   UserDir public_html
   UserDir disabled root toor daemon operator bin tty kmem games news 
man sshd bind proxy _pflogd _dhcp uucp pop www nobody$

#
# Control access to UserDir directories.  The following is an example
# for a site where these directories are restricted to read-only.
#
  Directory /home/*/public_html
AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit Indexes
Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec
Limit GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
/Limit
LimitExcept GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND
   Order deny,allow
   Deny from all
/LimitExcept
  /Directory
/IfModule

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RE: smb issue

2006-07-27 Thread Tamouh H.
 
 
 After loading ichsmb, smbus and smb, dmesg reports:
 
 ichsmb0: Intel 82801DC (ICH4) SMBus controller port 
 0x1880-0x189f irq 10 at device 31.3 on pci0
 ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 smbus0: System Management Bus on ichsmb0
 smb0: SMBus generic I/O on smbus0
 
 
 Then, mbmon -d -S gives:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/sveinhal]$ mbmon -d -S 
 SMBus[Intel8XX(ICH/ICH2/ICH3/ICH4/ICH5/ICH6)] found, but No 
 HWM available on it!!
 InitMBInfo: Device not configured
 
 smbmsg -p gives:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/home/sveinhal]$ smbmsg -p Probing for devices 
 on /dev/smb0:
 Device @0x2c: rw
 *waiting, and waiting*
 ^C
 
 dmesg then shows hundreds of these:
 
 ichsmb0: device timeout, status=0x41
 
 
 Any clue?
 
 

I've had that same problem on one machine, still unresolved. Someone else 
actually got it working by unloading smbus from kernel !!

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RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Born, Clinton
Really? I wouldn't want such a myopic view when choosing to allocate our
shareholders dollars. Best tool for the job. Period!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amitabh Kant
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:28 AM
To: Nikolas Britton
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

And this is what I always do. As a person responsible for
recommending/approving/buying harware related stuff for few different
companies, I make it a point that I *prefer* only those brands that
have support for FreeBSD. For me, this is more so in case of RAID
cards.

On 7/27/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting are
 pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't work
 on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve it's
 uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor
 doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing open
 documentation.


I see the whole issue this way: companies are free to choose whether
to support FreeBSD or not, and I am free to choose/recommend their
product in my installations. It's only when we start to speak with our
money bags, that it will make commercial sense to them to support
*BSD.

Amitabh
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Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Born, Clinton wrote:

Really? I wouldn't want such a myopic view when choosing to  
allocate our

shareholders dollars. Best tool for the job. Period!


That is not as easy as you make it out to be.  WHat one might in the  
short term see as the best tool may not be such in 2 years when  
support is dropped and you are in a forced obsolescence and have to  
replace it with something else...  So making value judgments like  
tools that are known to be well supported on FReeBSD for example is  
part of determining the best tool for the job


Chad



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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 11:28 AM
To: Nikolas Britton
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Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

And this is what I always do. As a person responsible for
recommending/approving/buying harware related stuff for few different
companies, I make it a point that I *prefer* only those brands that
have support for FreeBSD. For me, this is more so in case of RAID
cards.

On 7/27/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Except most of the people using FreeBSD in a professional setting are
pretty high up on the IT/IS/MIS food chain. If a product doesn't work
on my platform of choice then there's no way in hell I'll approve  
it's

uses on other platforms, FreeBSD is my litmus test. If a vendor
doesn't support FreeBSD they can still pass my test by providing open
documentation.



I see the whole issue this way: companies are free to choose whether
to support FreeBSD or not, and I am free to choose/recommend their
product in my installations. It's only when we start to speak with our
money bags, that it will make commercial sense to them to support
*BSD.

Amitabh
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Re: cant get to my shell!

2006-07-27 Thread David Wilhelm
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, at 09:03:41 +, Marwan Sultan wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 

Hi Marwan.

  I was trying to install linux-flashplugin7 and in the same time was trying 
 to play with libmap.conf
  then suddenly my system crush!

  after reboot, i got this error message
 
  Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
 
  When i hit enter this error comes
  /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not found, 
 required by -sh
  /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not found, 
 required by sh
  and it comes again to  Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:
  and nothing works, i cannot get into my shell,

I had the exact same thing. In my case, the problem was that I uncommented
some lines in libmap.conf, but forgot to uncomment the line with the path.
It looked like this:

# Flash6 with Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon/Epiphany/Konqueror
#[/usr/X11R6/lib/linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so]
libpthread.so.0 pluginwrapper/flash6.so
libdl.so.2  pluginwrapper/flash6.so
libz.so.1   libz.so.3
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3libstdc++.so.5
libm.so.6   libm.so.4
libc.so.6   pluginwrapper/flash6.so

After uncommenting the second line above, everything was fine.

  i tried to use fixit from sysinstall by using the emergency shell, to 
 delete libmap.conf
  (asuming its cuzing the problem) but from the emergency shell u cannot see 
 that file,

In order to edit libmap.conf, the partition where it lives needs to be
mounted. If you booted from a CD, you'll need to mount the hard drive
partition by hand.

My /etc/libmap.conf is located in the root partition, my hard drive is
ad0, and FreeBSD is on the first slice, so the device I needed is
/dev/ad0s1a. Of course, yours may be different.

From the emergency shell, mount your partition to some convenient directory,
say it's /mnt:

# mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt

Then you can edit your libmap.conf at it's current, temporary location:
# vi /mnt/etc/libmap.conf

Reboot after it's fixed.

Hope this helps,
Dave


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Re: cant get to my shell!

2006-07-27 Thread michael johnson

On 7/27/06, Marwan Sultan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello everyone,

  I was trying to install linux-flashplugin7 and in the same time was
trying
to play with libmap.conf
  then suddenly my system crush!
  after reboot, i got this error message

  Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:

  When i hit enter this error comes
  /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not found,
required by -sh
  /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: shared object pluginwrapper/flash6.so not found,
required by sh
  and it comes again to  Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for
/bin/sh:
  and nothing works, i cannot get into my shell,
  i tried to use fixit from sysinstall by using the emergency shell, to
delete libmap.conf
  (asuming its cuzing the problem) but from the emergency shell u cannot
see
that file,
  I tried to /bin/csh/ and its giving the same error,
  single user mode, safe mode, all the same, giving the same error!!
  tried to google it but no results.

  the only place i can get is the emergency shell, from fixit.



boot in single user mode and when prompted for a shell to use,
use /rescue/csh . then you will be able to fix your problem.


 any help?

  Thank you
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icmp packets - disabling via sysctl, or cisco switch ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread User Freebsd


Two part question here ...

first part ... is there a way of just disabling icmp by setting a sysctl, 
so that a server just doesn't respond to them?


second part ... is there a way of telling a cisco switch to drop all icmp 
packets, preferrably to all but an exception list, but to everywhere works 
as well ...


I'm running a Cisco 2950-24 ...

thanks ...


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Re: icmp packets - disabling via sysctl, or cisco switch ... ?

2006-07-27 Thread User Freebsd


Just an appendum, but this is what I'm seeing in /var/log/messages right 
now:


Jul 28 00:22:37 io kernel: Limiting icmp unreach response from 6255 to 200 
packets/sec
Jul 28 00:22:38 io kernel: Limiting icmp unreach response from 6515 to 200 
packets/sec
Jul 28 00:22:39 io kernel: Limiting icmp unreach response from 6646 to 200 
packets/sec
^C

And its been going on for several hours now ... :(


On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, User Freebsd wrote:



Two part question here ...

first part ... is there a way of just disabling icmp by setting a sysctl, so 
that a server just doesn't respond to them?


second part ... is there a way of telling a cisco switch to drop all icmp 
packets, preferrably to all but an exception list, but to everywhere works as 
well ...


I'm running a Cisco 2950-24 ...

thanks ...


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Re: vsftpd uploading rate problem

2006-07-27 Thread Yuan, Jue

Thanks for your kind reply and sorry for the delay :-)

This speed issue has gone away after I upgrade my OS to FreeBSD
6.1-RELEASE. Anyway, thanks again. :-)

On 6/6/06, N.J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* Yuan, Jue [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-06 18:31:43 +0800]:
 The situation is: a computer could download stuffs from my laptop via
 vsftpd at a rate of 10M/s. while uploading stuffs to my laptop at a
 rate of only 300K~400K :(

Can you test with some other (non-ftp) protocol, and see if you get the
same results? Try scp'ing a large file to and from your laptop.



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Can not add partitions to existing 3ware RAID?

2006-07-27 Thread Michael R. Wayne

Tonite I was going to allocate some more disk space to a 6.1 RELEASE
system.  I did it the same way I've done it for years:  I went into
sysinstall, selected
   Custom-Partition
and added a new partition (twed0s3) using some of the remaining
space.  I then moved up to twed0s1 and did an S because
sysinstall never remembers that the first slice was bootable and
not doing this leaves one with an unbootable system.

I then do a W to write out this information, say Yes to the
warning since I am modifying an existing system and select the
Standard Boot Manager.  Instead of the normal response, I get
   ERROR: Unable to write data to disk twed0!
and
   Disk partition write returned an error status!
which is most disconcerting.

No messages in the logs or on the (serial) console.  Checking
sysinstall again, the disk remains unchanged.

Has something recently changed in this process?

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Re: Can not add partitions to existing 3ware RAID?

2006-07-27 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Michael R. Wayne wrote:



Tonite I was going to allocate some more disk space to a 6.1 RELEASE
system.  I did it the same way I've done it for years:  I went into
sysinstall, selected
   Custom-Partition
and added a new partition (twed0s3) using some of the remaining
space.  I then moved up to twed0s1 and did an S because
sysinstall never remembers that the first slice was bootable and
not doing this leaves one with an unbootable system.

I then do a W to write out this information, say Yes to the
warning since I am modifying an existing system and select the
Standard Boot Manager.  Instead of the normal response, I get
   ERROR: Unable to write data to disk twed0!
and
   Disk partition write returned an error status!
which is most disconcerting.

No messages in the logs or on the (serial) console.  Checking
sysinstall again, the disk remains unchanged.

Has something recently changed in this process?



Do you have a securelevel set in rc.conf

kern_securelevel_enable=YES
kern_securelevel=1


where the number is  0  

This will cause the effect you state.

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Re: Can not add partitions to existing 3ware RAID?

2006-07-27 Thread Michael R. Wayne
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:45:07PM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
 
 Do you have a securelevel set in rc.conf
 
 kern_securelevel_enable=YES
 kern_securelevel=1
 
 where the number is  0  

Good point, I neglected to mention that.  No, I'm not running secure:

   sudo sysctl kern.securelevel
  kern.securelevel: -1

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Non blob frebsd raid 5 drivers...

2006-07-27 Thread Telting
I just wanted to get it straight.  I think I read some post that said 
that 3ware actually has and uses commit access to the freebsd source 
tree.  Can anyone comfirm this for me?


I currently have a highpoint 2220 controller.  I got it because of the 
Freebsd support what appeared to be available driver source code only to 
be humilitated to discover after the fact that what's labeled source is 
a blob module, and not source at all.


Areca is a name I never heard before this list.  They appartly support 
bsd but, what level of support?  Binary Driver, blob, source, or docs?


Chris

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Re: Non blob frebsd raid 5 drivers...

2006-07-27 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:11 PM, Telting wrote:

I just wanted to get it straight.  I think I read some post that  
said that 3ware actually has and uses commit access to the freebsd  
source tree.  Can anyone comfirm this for me?


I currently have a highpoint 2220 controller.  I got it because of  
the Freebsd support what appeared to be available driver source  
code only to be humilitated to discover after the fact that what's  
labeled source is a blob module, and not source at all.


Areca is a name I never heard before this list.  They appartly  
support bsd but, what level of support?  Binary Driver, blob,  
source, or docs?


They appear to have a source driver.

/usr/src/sys/dev/arcmsr
/usr/src/sys/dev/arcmsr/arcmsr.c
/usr/src/sys/dev/arcmsr/arcmsr.h


arcmsr is the driver name for areca (man arcmsr)

top of the .c file reads:

/*
 
**

**O.S   : FreeBSD
**   FILE NAME  : arcmsr.c
**BY: Erich Chen
**   Description: SCSI RAID Device Driver for
**ARECA (ARC1110/1120/1160/1210/1220/1260) SATA RAID  
HOST Adapter
**ARCMSR RAID Host adapter[RAID controller:INTEL 331 
(PCI-X) 341(PCI-EXPRESS) chip set]
 
**


**
** Copyright (c) 2004-2006 ARECA Co. Ltd.
**Erich Chen, Taipei Taiwan All rights reserved.
**


I have several Areca cards because they support both BSD and Solaris  
with their drivers and I run both and want my HW to be as versatile  
as possible...  Have not actually run one in BSD yet though that will  
happen.  I have several but none are yet in production, just  
testing.  They do do quite well in reviews and bake-offs against  
other raid cards.


Chad


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Boot and Install from USB?

2006-07-27 Thread Nikolas Britton

Floppy and CD-ROM drives, why do I need them? They take up to much
chassis real estate and I never use them after the server is in
production. Why can't I do all this stuff with USB?

If I got a USB flash, USB CD-ROM, and/or a USB floppy drive what could
I do with it?

* Boot into DOS to run BIOS updates?
* Load the FreeBSD CD to a flash drive and boot / install from it?

I see no reason to keeping buy them, there like tits on a bull.



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question about ttys

2006-07-27 Thread Mihai Velicu
Hi !

 

I'm new in FreeBSD and I made a mistake.

In the file ttys I changed to insecure all the lines and now I cannot log on
even as root.

Only in single user I can log on but I cannot modify the file ttys is said
something this is a read only file system.

Please tell me how I can remediate my error, how I can modify back the file
ttys ?

If is possible of course.

 

Best regards,

Mihai

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Re: Boot and Install from USB?

2006-07-27 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:32 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote:


Floppy and CD-ROM drives, why do I need them? They take up to much
chassis real estate and I never use them after the server is in
production. Why can't I do all this stuff with USB?

If I got a USB flash, USB CD-ROM, and/or a USB floppy drive what could
I do with it?

* Boot into DOS to run BIOS updates?
* Load the FreeBSD CD to a flash drive and boot / install from it?

I see no reason to keeping buy them, there like tits on a bull.


None of my servers have floppies or cdrom or any optical drives.  I  
keep a couple floppies and a dvd and a cdrom around and if I need on  
I plug it in for the duration of the need...


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Re: Boot and Install from USB?

2006-07-27 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 7/28/06, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:32 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote:

 Floppy and CD-ROM drives, why do I need them? They take up to much
 chassis real estate and I never use them after the server is in
 production. Why can't I do all this stuff with USB?

 If I got a USB flash, USB CD-ROM, and/or a USB floppy drive what could
 I do with it?

 * Boot into DOS to run BIOS updates?
 * Load the FreeBSD CD to a flash drive and boot / install from it?

 I see no reason to keep buying them, there like tits on a bull.

None of my servers have floppies or cdrom or any optical drives.  I
keep a couple floppies and a dvd and a cdrom around and if I need on
I plug it in for the duration of the need...



Been there done that. It's a pain in the butt:

1. Power down
2. Take cover off
3. Plug in drive
4. Put cover back on
5. Power on
6. Re-enable BIOS support for device.
7. Do what needs to be done
8. Power down
9. Take cover off
10. Unplug drive
11. Put cover back on
12. Power on
13. Disable BIOS support for device.



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