Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

2011-03-27 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Thomas,

Yes, my second game for Windows was Trucker.  I put text on the screen and Jaws 
would read it.  Too bad that Window Eyes and other screen readers would not.  
So then I started making games with recorded speech.  That is allot of work and 
not as flexible as using the sapi5 text to speech engine.  I just wish that 
everyone could have a high quality sapi5 voice or two that they liked.  Now 
Pong and the game that I am working on now do not have much speech in them, so 
recorded speech could work.  Well until the score, log file and record file 
that is.

Yes, Blossom Music Center was the out door amphitheater that we also saw Pat 
Bennatar at.  Great great concert.  Just a bit too loud though.  Not only did 
it sound great, but she was wearing that skin tight black cat suit with the red 
ties.  She really looked great!  And Neil Geraldo had his arm in a cast.  Still 
played excellently though.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Thomas,

I'm just wondering if you know, when I paste a dropbox address into Internet 
explorer and it is a .mp3 file it does not down load and save the file, but 
instead it plays it in a plugin window.  Just wondering if that is a JFW thing 
or an Internet Explorer thing.

Thanks.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim,

That would be Internet Explorer at fault. In a case of mp3s and media
files like that Internet Explorer will often assume you want to
play/stream the media instead of download it. Its been ages since I
used Internet Explorer, but there should be something under Internet
Options that allows you to change this behavior to prompt you to
download or play the file. The web browser I use, Firefox, certainly
has such an option and that's how I avoid certain files automatically
playing when I click on the links.Firefox comes up with a dialog
asking me to open/play or save the file.
HTH

On 3/27/11, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
 Hi Thomas,

 I'm just wondering if you know, when I paste a dropbox address into Internet
 explorer and it is a .mp3 file it does not down load and save the file, but
 instead it plays it in a plugin window.  Just wondering if that is a JFW
 thing or an Internet Explorer thing.

 Thanks.

 BFN

  Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim,

Yeah, now that you mention it I do recall Window-Eyes 3.1 and earlier
had problems with the command prompt window. If you wanted to actually
run an MS Dos program with speech you had to switch over to
Vocal-Eyes, Jaws for Dos, ASAP, or some other Dos screen reader at the
time. However, now that most people don't need it current versions of
Window-Eyes such as v7.5 work fine with the Windows XP, Vista, and
Windows 7 command prompt window. I use Window-Eyes all the time with
scare, frotz, and various other dos interactive fiction interpreters
as well as various commandline compilers like MinGW and Javac. So
Window-eyes command prompt support added in version 4, I think, has
been a huge help to me. As I recall they added support about the time
Windows XP was first coming out. Unfortunately, in the main that was a
little too late since all the Dos games like Lone Wolf, Trek 99,  the
various PCS Games,your games, etc all began being rewritten for
Windows so command prompt support was just a tad bit late for
Window-eyes users.

As for recorded speech I have to agree with you. It is a lot of work
and isn't at all as flexable as using Sapi 5 directly. Unfortunately,
not everyone has high-quality Sapi compatible voices, and I seam to
recall getting a few not so happy remarks from gamers to include a
better voice with my games. Which only proves most people want
something for nothing.

On Linux the issue with using direct TTS is even more problematic. We
have Speech-Dispatcher which is something like Sapi, but unfortunately
since it is open source if you buy a brand new Del with Ubuntu 10.10
on it the only Speech-Dispatcher speech drivers you get are open
source drivers for ESpeak, Festival, and other open source speech
engines like that. They're not exactly the best quality voices out
there for Linux. Of course you can buy the Cepstral voices, ATT
voices, Eloquence, etc for Linux which are far superior, but then you
have to go through the hastle of finding the latest Speech-Dispatcher
commercial drivers or recompile them yourself. That I.E. is the
biggest downfall Linux has to aaccessibility in my opinion. Most Linux
users won't fool with it to acquire the better TTS voices.

It is for that reason I've been thinking about writing my own custom
speech API for Linux. As part of my G3D engine it wouldn't be under
the Linux GPL license so could include up to date commercial speech
drivers for the ATT Voices, Cepstral Voices, Eloquence, Dectalk, you
name it. When they run the package manager like dpkg it would
automatically install my custom commercial speech drivers. All the end
user would have to do is buy and install the commercial TTS engine
they want.

Which sort of brings me around to my point. If I create an RPG game as
we we were talking about earlier there is only two ways to pass along
a large amount of info to the gamer. One, we could display text
directly to the screen either via the Windows command prompt window or
via a terminal window on Mac and Linux operating systems. Two, the
other is to tap into the operating systems TTS speech API and simply
speak outloud all the necessary information. Both have advantages and
disadvantages to consider.

If we display text to the screen that makes the code extremely
portable so that the game can be recompiled for Pacmates, IPhones, and
probably any number of handheld devices as well as various types of
PCs. As someone who isn't strictly speaking a Windows-only user the
idea of making the product as portable as possible is good. Plus for
screen readers that can read a command prompt and terminal window that
gives them the ability to review the screen on demand, look up
spellings, and things like that.That is something you don't get when
shooting the text directly to Sapi. On the downside not all screen
readers handles a command prompt window exactly the same so the
process may be more manual for some than others. Plus I know from
experience one big problem is you have to be careful that the text
doesn't scroll off the screen, or wrap in the wrong place. Text
formatting errors in cases like that are nasty.

On the other hand using text to speech directly resolves some issues
but adds a few problems of its own. With Sapi it doesn't matter how
the text is formatted, weather it scrolls off screen, etc because it
is just speaking outloud what it is given to speak.  I'd say the
biggest advantage Sapi is got is that you don't need a screen reader
at all to play said game. Just start the game and it will speak
everything you want/need on demand. Unfortunately, if you want to look
up the spelling of a person, place, or thing in the game you can't.
There really is no way to really review the text word by word
character by character as you would with a screen reader. This was my
biggest complaint with Winfrotz TTS as I could never go back and
review something Sapi mangled or I wasn't sure how a certain named was
spelled. Plus API implamentation changes from platform to 

[Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe
Hi all!
I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site so 
edited out the winning sound.
Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and I'll 
refresh it.
the link is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recording.mp3

Thanks send comments,
Shane
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Mike Maslo
Where can I find the game battle zone?


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Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

Hi all!
I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site so
edited out the winning sound.
Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and I'll
refresh it.
the link is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
ng.mp3

Thanks send comments,
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
You can get bgt here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_english_installer1.0.exe

Shane

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Where can I find the game battle zone?


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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

Hi all!
I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site so
edited out the winning sound.
Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and 
I'll

refresh it.
the link is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
ng.mp3

Thanks send comments,
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[Audyssey] some game questions

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe
Does anyone know what happened to lighttech's light battles game and L-works's 
super Liam2?

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Trouble
That is a computer thing, because you have a program associated with 
that file type and plays it.
For me with mp3 links I have to right click and save target as.. to 
get the file.



At 05:52 AM 3/27/2011, you wrote:

Hi Thomas,

I'm just wondering if you know, when I paste a dropbox address into 
Internet explorer and it is a .mp3 file it does not down load and 
save the file, but instead it plays it in a plugin window.  Just 
wondering if that is a JFW thing or an Internet Explorer thing.


Thanks.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, as a gamer I completely understand your point of view on this,
but as a developer I see the other side of the issue too. For one
thing as a professionally trained programmer I like my work to reflect
my skills, education, etc so my personal standards for quality is
fairly high. Nothing drives me crazier than an incomplete or fairly
buggy piece of software that I personally created.

For example, copyright issues aside with Montezuma's Revenge I was
going to have to eventually rewrite that program, or at least a large
part of it, to fix a couple of technical issues I made early on in
game development. One of them was the jump bug were you could jump
through walls, or jump and get stuck in mid air for no reason at all.
Obviously, these problems were fixed when I wrote the G3D engine which
MOTA uses, but I wasn't quite sure how to fix it at the time I was
working on Monte. The other problem was that I used James North's
coordinate system with (0, 0) at the top-left corner of the map and
(50, 50) at the bottom-right corner of the map. This would have been
ok accept when I wrote my trig calculations for the game my
orientation was backwards which means the game mechanics operated
incorrectly. The problem could have been fixed fairly easily, but
Utopia put an end to development before I had a chance to actually
rewrite/correct the game mechanics.so even if I had been allowed to
complete the game at some point I was going to have to correct those
bugs.


With STFC as I think you might remember I lost the source code to the
game during a system crash. As a result I was either forced to release
the game as is, I.E. release the last beta as 1.0, or rewrite it from
scratch. I chose a short-term solution which was to take the last beta
from the website, changed a few voice files to say 1.0, and released
it as is. Sure it is a good game, but there were bugs I never could
correct without the source code which I need to fix it. So as a
developer it was a little frustrating to get a support e-mail
reporting bugs I already knew about, and knowing I couldn't possibly
fix them without a complete rewrite. Plus at the time STFC and Monte
was being developed people were always having troubles installing .Net
and Managed DirectX which got to be a hastle because at the time XP
shipped with neither technology, and they had to be installed in the
exact correct order in the exact right way or STFC wouldn't run.
Although, newerWindows releases like Windows 7 have gone a long way to
resolving most problems with .Net applications its still an issue for
older XP systems. Plus I've had a few e-mails to the effect people
don't want to install .Net on their computer for one reason or
another.


The other issue was a lot of gamers felt at the time I could fix the
.Net compatibility issues simply by creating a streamline install of
all the dependencies which would simplify installing the game. They
were right I could have fixed the problems with .Net and Managed
DirectX by packing them with my installer, but instead of 25 MB the
install size would have jumped to well over 500 MB. This dependency
issue is primarily one reason I began moving away from .Net and
decided to look at C, C++, Java or something else. I didn't think it
was fare to the gamer to install a game with 500 MB of dependencies
attached. Not to mention It was going to cost me more in download
bandwidth, storage space, etc. Let's face it .Net based apps are
bloated beyond belief when you need several third-party managed
libraries that may or may not be preinstalled on your system.


To sum up the issue I don't think game developers such as Josh and
myself necessarily want to take down games that are old because they
lack maret, but do it because the game in question no longer operates
correctly or as expected on the current hardware or OS as intended.
Answering tech support e-mails or repeatedly answering people's
question why this or that game no longer works takes time and energy
away from the current game or upgrade in development. Especially,
since the devlopers usually are the ones the support questions go to
meaning we double aas developer and on the spot e-mail tech support
person.

For example, let's assume that someone writes USA Games support
wondering why STFC 1.2 isn't working. I can talk them through
correctly installing .Net, upgrading .Net if necessary, and getting
Managed DirectX installed. That might take a couple of long winded
e-mails, but eventually we will resolve the issue. Unfortunately, for
me I could have spent that time on STFC 2.0 which will be far better
than 1.x. Its written in C++, uses cross-platform libraries like SDL
and FMOD,  and the install size shouldn't be any more than 30 MB or
so. Maybe more if I add music tracks for the various missions.
However, you need to understand my personal frustration at having to
support a technology and programming language I no longer use any more
for game production and I know that something 

Re: [Audyssey] some game questions

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shane,

Well, as for Light Battles the project was abandoned when the lead
developer for Lighttech decided to quit writing games. I don't know
his motivations etc, but one day he said he was tired of writing games
and simply quit and abandoned any and all projects they were working
on. Although, the Lighttech website is still up the company is
effectively out of business as they have no new projects in the works
and no plans to finish current projects etc. They just dropped off the
scene so to speak.

As for Super Liam 2 you'll have to ask Liam that question. He said he
was planning on creating it at one time, but it has been one of those
projects he has never created for one reason or another. Since Liam
has a actual job now I doubt he has the time and energy to come home
and program Super Liam 2 at the moment. I often have that same problem
myself.

Cheers!


On 3/27/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote:
 Does anyone know what happened to lighttech's light battles game and
 L-works's super Liam2?

 Shane
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
I should  tell you that dropbox, or as you so quaintly call it, flopbox,
links do not expire.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
You can get bgt here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_e
nglish_installer1.0.exe

Shane

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Where can I find the game battle zone?


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shane Lowe
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
 Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

 Hi all!
 I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
 I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site so
 edited out the winning sound.
 Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and 
 I'll
 refresh it.
 the link is

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
 ng.mp3

 Thanks send comments,
 Shane
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
Ah...I just tried the link and no luck.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
You can get bgt here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_e
nglish_installer1.0.exe

Shane

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Where can I find the game battle zone?


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shane Lowe
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
 Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

 Hi all!
 I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
 I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site so
 edited out the winning sound.
 Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and 
 I'll
 refresh it.
 the link is

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
 ng.mp3

 Thanks send comments,
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread simon dowling
hi the link is truncated so just copy and paste in to notepad and edit that 
way.

Simon
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Hi,
Ah...I just tried the link and no luck.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:29 AM
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here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
You can get bgt here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_e
nglish_installer1.0.exe

Shane

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



Where can I find the game battle zone?


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Behalf Of Shane Lowe
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
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Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

Hi all!
I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site so
edited out the winning sound.
Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and
I'll
refresh it.
the link is


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi

ng.mp3

Thanks send comments,
Shane
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
No need to do that jst copy the ting. Shane...could you maybe beat it
*without* cheats next time?

Best Regards,
Hayden


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hi the link is truncated so just copy and paste in to notepad and edit that 
way.
Simon
msn: simod...@hotmail.com
skype, slifinger
fortis et egregious
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Hi,
 Ah...I just tried the link and no luck.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


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 Behalf Of Shane Lowe
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:29 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

 here
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
 You can get bgt here

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_e
 nglish_installer1.0.exe

 Shane

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 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Where can I find the game battle zone?


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shane Lowe
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
 Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

 Hi all!
 I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
 I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site so
 edited out the winning sound.
 Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and
 I'll
 refresh it.
 the link is


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
 ng.mp3

 Thanks send comments,
 Shane
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Re: [Audyssey] some game questions

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

well as for light battles that sucks.
But if you have a job yeah I can understand.

Shane

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:04 AM
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Hi Shane,

Well, as for Light Battles the project was abandoned when the lead
developer for Lighttech decided to quit writing games. I don't know
his motivations etc, but one day he said he was tired of writing games
and simply quit and abandoned any and all projects they were working
on. Although, the Lighttech website is still up the company is
effectively out of business as they have no new projects in the works
and no plans to finish current projects etc. They just dropped off the
scene so to speak.

As for Super Liam 2 you'll have to ask Liam that question. He said he
was planning on creating it at one time, but it has been one of those
projects he has never created for one reason or another. Since Liam
has a actual job now I doubt he has the time and energy to come home
and program Super Liam 2 at the moment. I often have that same problem
myself.

Cheers!


On 3/27/11, Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com wrote:

Does anyone know what happened to lighttech's light battles game and
L-works's super Liam2?

Shane
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[Audyssey] core exiles

2011-03-27 Thread darren harris
Hi all,
 
For anybody that wants to know, there's a recommend a friend programme now
on core exiles. By recommending a friend the new player gets a whole host of
free stuff as too does the person who's name you put in the recommended
field.
 
Core exiles is a free to play game. You can do a whole host of things
including crafting your own weapons, shields and other parts, making loads
of money, exploring planets and alien systems, soon there will be the
ability to make your own ships and either fly them or sell them.
 
Go to http://www.core-exiles.com
 
My captain name is James t kirk as spelt. If you feel inclined, feel free to
say that I recommended you and we will both benefit. 
 
It's totally free to play the community is very friendly. 
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden,


No, but they stop working after everybody and their uncle gets a
chance to download before you do. Try downloading something off a
heavily used list when it is a Dropbox link. I can assure you if you
don't start the download as soon as you see it in a few hours the link
will give you the oh so lovely, download has exceeded maximum
bandwidth limit message and you have to wait until his/her account
resets before grabbing the file. Dropbox is a serious pain in the butt
when trying to share something with two or three hundred people at a
time, because when talking about hundreds of downloads Dropbox won't
allow you to do it, and it will only allow so many downloads daily. I
forget what it is maybe 25 per day, but the thing is it is
rediculously low for a heavily used mailing list were downloads can
add up to the hundreds quickly. Dropbox was only designed to share
files and things with a few family and friends, and was never intended
for mass redistribution of stuff as all too many try to do.

Cheers!


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 Hi,
 I should  tell you that dropbox, or as you so quaintly call it, flopbox,
 links do not expire.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Valiant8086


Do you have iTunes installed by any chance? Quick time player causes IE 
to do that.


On 3/27/2011 5:52 AM, Jim Kitchen wrote:

Hi Thomas,

I'm just wondering if you know, when I paste a dropbox address into 
Internet explorer and it is a .mp3 file it does not down load and save 
the file, but instead it plays it in a plugin window.  Just wondering 
if that is a JFW thing or an Internet Explorer thing.


Thanks.

BFN

Jim

What the hell is a plugin? Oh, plug in! Doh!

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Ken the Crazy
First, the links to the rom packs are up on the audiogames.net forum for 
everybody to see.
Second, to legal and ethical issues, I would have to say that first, I doubt 
a company like Nintendo is going to come after a single person or group of 
blind people for downloading their roms when dozens of rom sites exist, 
especially since they know that one can't get blood from turnips.
Second, I think that people playing roms, even if they don't own a game 
console, is good for business.  For example, my son has a game boy advanced. 
I played the rom of Sound Voyager, and now I have no doubt but that I'm 
going to buy that game.
I've also been playing the Mortal Kombat 3 rom on the SNES emulator.  I know 
I'm not going to get an SNES console and buy Mortal Kombat 3 for that 
platform, I'm really tempted to find a version that's made for the PC--if I 
can find one that moves the sounds of the players in stereo as the ones for 
the SNES do.  Therefore, since the roms are much older, and the emulators 
are not as good as a real console, I don't see why anybody should complain 
about this.
For example, if somebody made a rom of Phrase madness, and, since it was 
emulated, had a very slow response time and didn't work as well as the 
original, it would be almost like a demo of the game.  Sure, you'd have 
limitless access, but eventually you'd want the real thing.
The roms pack releases are geared specifically for the blind and will get a 
lot more people playing games as long as they don'g get scared about legal 
action which isn't going to come anyway. 



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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread fred olver
What is this second file for???
F
red Olver

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From: Shane Lowe shanel...@insightbb.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 here
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
 You can get bgt here
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_english_installer1.0.exe

 Shane

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 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Where can I find the game battle zone?


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shane Lowe
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
 Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

 Hi all!
 I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
 I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site so
 edited out the winning sound.
 Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and 
 I'll
 refresh it.
 the link is
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
 ng.mp3

 Thanks send comments,
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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-27 Thread dark

Hi Tom.

this does make sense in terms of support, though I will say on the net issue 
sinse there are so many other things thaat need net it's not so bad having 
it as a dependency (there was one point where almost everything new that 
came out seemed to, I remember due to the user accounts crash which I 
couldn't resolve back in 2007 that meant I couldn't run net stuff).


At least in the case of Monti, you might however simply list the 
dependencies the way you already have on the stfc page, and just say that 
the game was a beta version where developement was stopped so may contain 
some bugs, and that your not offering tech support anymore for the game.


Anyone who wants to see your complete software and disucss Mota etc can stil 
do so, but this does at least mean your older games are stil available for 
people who want them even on the understanding that they're not complete 
projects and have their issues.


Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread dark
This is again why I personally prefer sendspace for file sharing, as many 
people can download as much as they want and the link stays.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:18 PM
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Hi Hayden,


No, but they stop working after everybody and their uncle gets a
chance to download before you do. Try downloading something off a
heavily used list when it is a Dropbox link. I can assure you if you
don't start the download as soon as you see it in a few hours the link
will give you the oh so lovely, download has exceeded maximum
bandwidth limit message and you have to wait until his/her account
resets before grabbing the file. Dropbox is a serious pain in the butt
when trying to share something with two or three hundred people at a
time, because when talking about hundreds of downloads Dropbox won't
allow you to do it, and it will only allow so many downloads daily. I
forget what it is maybe 25 per day, but the thing is it is
rediculously low for a heavily used mailing list were downloads can
add up to the hundreds quickly. Dropbox was only designed to share
files and things with a few family and friends, and was never intended
for mass redistribution of stuff as all too many try to do.

Cheers!


On 3/27/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,
I should  tell you that dropbox, or as you so quaintly call it, flopbox,
links do not expire.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Dark,
Dropbox links do *not* expire. So long as the file stays up there the link
is good. On the other hand, I have a problem where Sendspace deletes your
fiels after so much time.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 12:33 PM
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This is again why I personally prefer sendspace for file sharing, as many 
people can download as much as they want and the link stays.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Hi Hayden,


 No, but they stop working after everybody and their uncle gets a
 chance to download before you do. Try downloading something off a
 heavily used list when it is a Dropbox link. I can assure you if you
 don't start the download as soon as you see it in a few hours the link
 will give you the oh so lovely, download has exceeded maximum
 bandwidth limit message and you have to wait until his/her account
 resets before grabbing the file. Dropbox is a serious pain in the butt
 when trying to share something with two or three hundred people at a
 time, because when talking about hundreds of downloads Dropbox won't
 allow you to do it, and it will only allow so many downloads daily. I
 forget what it is maybe 25 per day, but the thing is it is
 rediculously low for a heavily used mailing list were downloads can
 add up to the hundreds quickly. Dropbox was only designed to share
 files and things with a few family and friends, and was never intended
 for mass redistribution of stuff as all too many try to do.

 Cheers!


 On 3/27/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I should  tell you that dropbox, or as you so quaintly call it, flopbox,
 links do not expire.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread fred olver
Tried to download the collection and could not. Any chance of your making it 
available on sendspace?

Fred Olver

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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind


 hi everyone.
 finaly! after almost two days working on it, documentation, carefuly 
 thinking what roms to add
 to it, the version 0.1 of this emulators collection is out!
 grab it from
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/Emulators%20Collection%20-%20Version%200.1.7z
 try it and please give feedback!
 to read more info about this pack of emulators, read the post on ag
 forum which will give lots of details
 http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=5025
 hope you all like it.
 thanks.
 p.s: i'm posting the pack of roms in the ag forum, when everything is
 uploaded i'll send links here.
 p.s2: read the licence_and_disclaimer file and all the other
 documentation available.

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Re: [Audyssey] some game questions

2011-03-27 Thread burakyuksek

They are discontinued.
sevgiler saygilar
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Subject: [Audyssey] some game questions


Does anyone know what happened to lighttech's light battles game and 
L-works's super Liam2?


Shane
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

You need bgt to play battlezone.

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What is this second file for???
F
red Olver

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
You can get bgt here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_english_installer1.0.exe

Shane

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



Where can I find the game battle zone?


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Shane Lowe
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

Hi all!
I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site 
so

edited out the winning sound.
Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and 
I'll

refresh it.
the link is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
ng.mp3

Thanks send comments,
Shane
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

1. don't have sendspace any more.
2. don't have it because the upload thing on the site takes 30 years for one 
file to upload.



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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


This is again why I personally prefer sendspace for file sharing, as many 
people can download as much as they want and the link stays.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



Hi Hayden,


No, but they stop working after everybody and their uncle gets a
chance to download before you do. Try downloading something off a
heavily used list when it is a Dropbox link. I can assure you if you
don't start the download as soon as you see it in a few hours the link
will give you the oh so lovely, download has exceeded maximum
bandwidth limit message and you have to wait until his/her account
resets before grabbing the file. Dropbox is a serious pain in the butt
when trying to share something with two or three hundred people at a
time, because when talking about hundreds of downloads Dropbox won't
allow you to do it, and it will only allow so many downloads daily. I
forget what it is maybe 25 per day, but the thing is it is
rediculously low for a heavily used mailing list were downloads can
add up to the hundreds quickly. Dropbox was only designed to share
files and things with a few family and friends, and was never intended
for mass redistribution of stuff as all too many try to do.

Cheers!


On 3/27/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,
I should  tell you that dropbox, or as you so quaintly call it, flopbox,
links do not expire.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi, sorry but could someone resend me the link for this emulator package? I 
only caught up with this topic after it had been started for a while.

Thanks in advance,
Greetings, Anouk,
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind


That is a computer thing, because you have a program associated with that 
file type and plays it.
For me with mp3 links I have to right click and save target as.. to get 
the file.



At 05:52 AM 3/27/2011, you wrote:

Hi Thomas,

I'm just wondering if you know, when I paste a dropbox address into 
Internet explorer and it is a .mp3 file it does not down load and save the 
file, but instead it plays it in a plugin window.  Just wondering if that 
is a JFW thing or an Internet Explorer thing.


Thanks.

BFN

Jim

What the hell is a plugin? Oh, plug in! Doh!

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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread dark

Mmm Haiden, the issue wasn't about expiry but about download limits?

As for sendspace, the expiration is actually timed from the last time the 
link was downloaded and is roughly four months, so usually is long enough so 
that it doesn't matter, or people download within the time and reset the 
expiration limit often enough.


I just have found out of all the various download providers sendspace to be 
the most stable and easy to use for both uploading and downloading, one 
reason it's the only one I pay money to.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



Dark,
Dropbox links do *not* expire. So long as the file stays up there the link
is good. On the other hand, I have a problem where Sendspace deletes your
fiels after so much time.

Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 12:33 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

This is again why I personally prefer sendspace for file sharing, as many
people can download as much as they want and the link stays.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



Hi Hayden,


No, but they stop working after everybody and their uncle gets a
chance to download before you do. Try downloading something off a
heavily used list when it is a Dropbox link. I can assure you if you
don't start the download as soon as you see it in a few hours the link
will give you the oh so lovely, download has exceeded maximum
bandwidth limit message and you have to wait until his/her account
resets before grabbing the file. Dropbox is a serious pain in the butt
when trying to share something with two or three hundred people at a
time, because when talking about hundreds of downloads Dropbox won't
allow you to do it, and it will only allow so many downloads daily. I
forget what it is maybe 25 per day, but the thing is it is
rediculously low for a heavily used mailing list were downloads can
add up to the hundreds quickly. Dropbox was only designed to share
files and things with a few family and friends, and was never intended
for mass redistribution of stuff as all too many try to do.

Cheers!


On 3/27/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi,
I should  tell you that dropbox, or as you so quaintly call it, flopbox,
links do not expire.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Dark,
Hmmm...where's the dropbox download limit? I still don't see it.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:42 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

Mmm Haiden, the issue wasn't about expiry but about download limits?

As for sendspace, the expiration is actually timed from the last time the 
link was downloaded and is roughly four months, so usually is long enough so

that it doesn't matter, or people download within the time and reset the 
expiration limit often enough.

I just have found out of all the various download providers sendspace to be 
the most stable and easy to use for both uploading and downloading, one 
reason it's the only one I pay money to.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Dark,
 Dropbox links do *not* expire. So long as the file stays up there the link
 is good. On the other hand, I have a problem where Sendspace deletes your
 fiels after so much time.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden

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 Behalf Of dark
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 12:33 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

 This is again why I personally prefer sendspace for file sharing, as many
 people can download as much as they want and the link stays.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.
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 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Hi Hayden,


 No, but they stop working after everybody and their uncle gets a
 chance to download before you do. Try downloading something off a
 heavily used list when it is a Dropbox link. I can assure you if you
 don't start the download as soon as you see it in a few hours the link
 will give you the oh so lovely, download has exceeded maximum
 bandwidth limit message and you have to wait until his/her account
 resets before grabbing the file. Dropbox is a serious pain in the butt
 when trying to share something with two or three hundred people at a
 time, because when talking about hundreds of downloads Dropbox won't
 allow you to do it, and it will only allow so many downloads daily. I
 forget what it is maybe 25 per day, but the thing is it is
 rediculously low for a heavily used mailing list were downloads can
 add up to the hundreds quickly. Dropbox was only designed to share
 files and things with a few family and friends, and was never intended
 for mass redistribution of stuff as all too many try to do.

 Cheers!


 On 3/27/11, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I should  tell you that dropbox, or as you so quaintly call it, flopbox,
 links do not expire.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden

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[Audyssey] light battles

2011-03-27 Thread Jack F
Hi Shane,
Due to serious technical difficulties, light battles development has
stopped. How ever, lighttech is working on a better starwoars project
gd quest. I don't know when it will be released but it's still in
development. I don't know about super liam2. I'll ask Liam about it
but I don't think it's abandoned. Anyone wanting to know about
chillingham2 the game is still in development. It is still in it's
early days of development, so don't expect the game to come out soon.
Development probably might have been placed on hold, and that might
also be the case for super liam2. Now could anyone send me scc and
maze game?
Thanks.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] light battles

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

There are hundrids of maze games which one?

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To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:09 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] light battles



Hi Shane,
Due to serious technical difficulties, light battles development has
stopped. How ever, lighttech is working on a better starwoars project
gd quest. I don't know when it will be released but it's still in
development. I don't know about super liam2. I'll ask Liam about it
but I don't think it's abandoned. Anyone wanting to know about
chillingham2 the game is still in development. It is still in it's
early days of development, so don't expect the game to come out soon.
Development probably might have been placed on hold, and that might
also be the case for super liam2. Now could anyone send me scc and
maze game?
Thanks.
best regards,
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[Audyssey] palacepunchup

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe
Anyone up for a game of palace punch-up?

If so I'll open up a server.
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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread fred olver
The link is no longer working.

Fred Olver

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind


 Hi, sorry but could someone resend me the link for this emulator package? 
 I only caught up with this topic after it had been started for a while.
 Thanks in advance,
 Greetings, Anouk,
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 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind


 That is a computer thing, because you have a program associated with that 
 file type and plays it.
 For me with mp3 links I have to right click and save target as.. to get 
 the file.


 At 05:52 AM 3/27/2011, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,

I'm just wondering if you know, when I paste a dropbox address into 
Internet explorer and it is a .mp3 file it does not down load and save 
the file, but instead it plays it in a plugin window.  Just wondering if 
that is a JFW thing or an Internet Explorer thing.

Thanks.

BFN

 Jim

What the hell is a plugin? Oh, plug in! Doh!

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Re: [Audyssey] light battles

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

Are your sure about the still in develipment?
I've been hearing there out of buisnis.
And there email addresses don't work any more.

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] light battles



There are hundrids of maze games which one?

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From: Jack F mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com

To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:09 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] light battles



Hi Shane,
Due to serious technical difficulties, light battles development has
stopped. How ever, lighttech is working on a better starwoars project
gd quest. I don't know when it will be released but it's still in
development. I don't know about super liam2. I'll ask Liam about it
but I don't think it's abandoned. Anyone wanting to know about
chillingham2 the game is still in development. It is still in it's
early days of development, so don't expect the game to come out soon.
Development probably might have been placed on hold, and that might
also be the case for super liam2. Now could anyone send me scc and
maze game?
Thanks.
best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread fred olver
Thank you.

Do I load the game first or the toolkit, I think it is?

Fred Olver

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 You need bgt to play battlezone.

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 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:19 PM
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 What is this second file for???
 F
 red Olver

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 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 here
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
 You can get bgt here
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_english_installer1.0.exe

 Shane

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 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!


 Where can I find the game battle zone?


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
 On
 Behalf Of Shane Lowe
 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
 Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

 Hi all!
 I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
 I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site 
 so
 edited out the winning sound.
 Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires and 
 I'll
 refresh it.
 the link is
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
 ng.mp3

 Thanks send comments,
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[Audyssey] tdl maze game

2011-03-27 Thread Jack F
Hi Shane,
I want the tdl maze game.
best regards,
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[Audyssey] super shot

2011-03-27 Thread Jack F
Hi Muhammed,
Can you send me super shot?
Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

Just install the toolkit you won't need to start it.

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:29 PM
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Thank you.

Do I load the game first or the toolkit, I think it is?

Fred Olver

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:35 PM
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You need bgt to play battlezone.

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



What is this second file for???
F
red Olver

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
You can get bgt here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_english_installer1.0.exe

Shane

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To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



Where can I find the game battle zone?


-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Shane Lowe
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

Hi all!
I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site 
so

edited out the winning sound.
Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires 
and I'll

refresh it.
the link is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
ng.mp3

Thanks send comments,
Shane
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Re: [Audyssey] tdl maze game

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

Sounds great only I can't find it as well!

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Hi Shane,
I want the tdl maze game.
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Re: [Audyssey] super shot

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

Would you mind sending it to me too?
Been looking for that game for years!

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Hi Muhammed,
Can you send me super shot?
Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Folks,
I just downloaded it at the link below:
version 0.5 of the emulators collection is released! pcsx2(a playstation
2 emulator) might be added soon, who knows.
download it from
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/Emulators_Collection%20v05.7z


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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:53 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind



hi everyone.
finaly! after almost two days working on it, documentation, carefuly 
thinking what roms to add

to it, the version 0.1 of this emulators collection is out!
grab it from
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/Emulators%20Collection%20-%20Version%200.1.7z
try it and please give feedback!
to read more info about this pack of emulators, read the post on ag
forum which will give lots of details
http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=5025
hope you all like it.
thanks.
p.s: i'm posting the pack of roms in the ag forum, when everything is
uploaded i'll send links here.
p.s2: read the licence_and_disclaimer file and all the other
documentation available.

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

yeah got it this time!
is it the same one as mat put up for download? or is it a totally different 
thing.


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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind



Hi Folks,
I just downloaded it at the link below:
version 0.5 of the emulators collection is released! pcsx2(a playstation
2 emulator) might be added soon, who knows.
download it from
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/Emulators_Collection%20v05.7z


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From: Matheus r.c. souza an...@bol.com.br

To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:53 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind



hi everyone.
finaly! after almost two days working on it, documentation, carefuly 
thinking what roms to add

to it, the version 0.1 of this emulators collection is out!
grab it from
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695866/Emulators%20Collection%20-%20Version%200.1.7z
try it and please give feedback!
to read more info about this pack of emulators, read the post on ag
forum which will give lots of details
http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=5025
hope you all like it.
thanks.
p.s: i'm posting the pack of roms in the ag forum, when everything is
uploaded i'll send links here.
p.s2: read the licence_and_disclaimer file and all the other
documentation available.

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[Audyssey] battle zone recording

2011-03-27 Thread Jack F
Hi Shane,
Will you refresh the link? It expired.
best regards, Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone recording

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

LOL thats dropbox for ya.
the link is now
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezone_site_pages/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recording.mp3

Shane

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Hi Shane,
Will you refresh the link? It expired.
best regards, Jack

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Re: [Audyssey] light battles

2011-03-27 Thread Bryan Peterson
I seriously doubt Chillingham 2 is in development. It's been almost seven 
years now and the only time anybody hears anything from Bavisoft is when 
they suggest that due to the shipping problems people have been 
experiencing, not to mention the many bounced Emails people have sent and 
therefore the lack of tech support, that the games ought to be made 
abandonware and that someone ought to use something like Flopbox or 
Sendspace to make the games freely available in downloadable form. And 
Bavisoft's response is basically please do not do this.

We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] light battles



Are your sure about the still in develipment?
I've been hearing there out of buisnis.
And there email addresses don't work any more.

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:23 PM
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There are hundrids of maze games which one?

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:09 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] light battles



Hi Shane,
Due to serious technical difficulties, light battles development has
stopped. How ever, lighttech is working on a better starwoars project
gd quest. I don't know when it will be released but it's still in
development. I don't know about super liam2. I'll ask Liam about it
but I don't think it's abandoned. Anyone wanting to know about
chillingham2 the game is still in development. It is still in it's
early days of development, so don't expect the game to come out soon.
Development probably might have been placed on hold, and that might
also be the case for super liam2. Now could anyone send me scc and
maze game?
Thanks.
best regards,
jack

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread The Addictor
Well, here's the link to the forum where you can learn all about it and 
download everything you need to get started.

http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=5025p=1
Ken Downey
The Addictor
www.TheAddictor.com

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:40 PM
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Hi, sorry but could someone resend me the link for this emulator package? 
I only caught up with this topic after it had been started for a while.

Thanks in advance,
Greetings, Anouk,
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That is a computer thing, because you have a program associated with that 
file type and plays it.
For me with mp3 links I have to right click and save target as.. to get 
the file.



At 05:52 AM 3/27/2011, you wrote:

Hi Thomas,

I'm just wondering if you know, when I paste a dropbox address into 
Internet explorer and it is a .mp3 file it does not down load and save 
the file, but instead it plays it in a plugin window.  Just wondering if 
that is a JFW thing or an Internet Explorer thing.


Thanks.

BFN

Jim

What the hell is a plugin? Oh, plug in! Doh!

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[Audyssey] Cheets

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe
How do you know I used the cheats?
1. I sent a message to the list 2 weeks ago and havent gotten a single reply.
2. Just reviewed the recording no cheats there.
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[Audyssey] Fantasy Baseball?

2011-03-27 Thread Jesse Bollinger

Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is a bit off topic. I've been wanting to get into Fantasy 
Baseball for a while now and decided to take the plunge this year. Can 
anyone reckomend a good site to go with? Seems like there are a ton out 
there.


Thanks,

Jesse

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Re: [Audyssey] Cheets

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
I know because:
1. I kept hearing ypu swinging your sword, and as you did it I heard the amo
sound.
2. There is no way you can get hit by three motocycles on that level,
withoutdrinking any potions, and still be avlive.
3. Younever ran out of amo; you would have if you hadn't used that cheat.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Subject: [Audyssey] Cheets

How do you know I used the cheats?
1. I sent a message to the list 2 weeks ago and havent gotten a single
reply.
2. Just reviewed the recording no cheats there.
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Re: [Audyssey] light battles

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Jack,
I'm not really sure where you got your information, but I highly doubt that
Jedi Quest is in development, and I doubt even more that Chillingham 2 is in
development. It has been seven years and not a peep.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:23 PM
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There are hundrids of maze games which one?

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From: Jack F mymonkeyboy2...@gmail.com
To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:09 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] light battles


 Hi Shane,
 Due to serious technical difficulties, light battles development has
 stopped. How ever, lighttech is working on a better starwoars project
 gd quest. I don't know when it will be released but it's still in
 development. I don't know about super liam2. I'll ask Liam about it
 but I don't think it's abandoned. Anyone wanting to know about
 chillingham2 the game is still in development. It is still in it's
 early days of development, so don't expect the game to come out soon.
 Development probably might have been placed on hold, and that might
 also be the case for super liam2. Now could anyone send me scc and
 maze game?
 Thanks.
 best regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] Cheets

2011-03-27 Thread Shane Lowe

yeah?
Oh wait were there cheats in that game recording?
damn! i mean darn! I uploaded the version with cheats and deleeted the 
version without them.

Because yes I found them.
Your pretty smart.

Shane

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Hi,
I know because:
1. I kept hearing ypu swinging your sword, and as you did it I heard the 
amo

sound.
2. There is no way you can get hit by three motocycles on that level,
withoutdrinking any potions, and still be avlive.
3. Younever ran out of amo; you would have if you hadn't used that cheat.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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How do you know I used the cheats?
1. I sent a message to the list 2 weeks ago and havent gotten a single
reply.
2. Just reviewed the recording no cheats there.
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Re: [Audyssey] Cheets

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
Lol. How about finding the one without them? Or did you lose it.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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yeah?
Oh wait were there cheats in that game recording?
damn! i mean darn! I uploaded the version with cheats and deleeted the 
version without them.
Because yes I found them.
Your pretty smart.

Shane

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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:27 PM
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 Hi,
 I know because:
 1. I kept hearing ypu swinging your sword, and as you did it I heard the 
 amo
 sound.
 2. There is no way you can get hit by three motocycles on that level,
 withoutdrinking any potions, and still be avlive.
 3. Younever ran out of amo; you would have if you hadn't used that cheat.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


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 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:40 PM
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 Subject: [Audyssey] Cheets

 How do you know I used the cheats?
 1. I sent a message to the list 2 weeks ago and havent gotten a single
 reply.
 2. Just reviewed the recording no cheats there.
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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Thomas,

Thanks, I will check Internet Explorer for the option to always down load 
rather than play the mp3 files.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

2011-03-27 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Thomas,

As I said trucker was the second dos game that I converted to a Windows game.  
At the time I was using VB4.  I dropped a text box on the form and put text to 
it.  When I did, I highlighted the text and held it highlighted for half a 
second.  That was why Jaws saw and read it automatically.  Too bad as I said 
JFW was the only Windows screen reader that did.

I was once asked what I thought was one special thing about my games.  And I 
answered that I have always had built in review keys.  Mostly I use the 
function keys f1 through f12.  Like in hangman it will pronounce the letters 
and spaces etc.  And in my baseball game they speak things such as the inning, 
ball and strike count, score etc.  So that is one way around the sapi5 option 
not having the text on the screen to review with the screen reader.  You just 
build it into the game.  I even did that back in the dos games.  In those I 
just rewrote the text on the screen and all of the dos screen readers spoke it.

That is a puzzler about Phillip and the Neo Speech voices.  I have always used the 
same sapi5 code and it works for all of my ATT, Microsoft, ScanSoft, Cepstral 
and Neo Speech voices.

Isn't that funny that people thing that the sapi5 voices come with the games?

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Trouble,

Yeah, on a web site etc I can right click on an mp3 file and down load it.  But 
when I paste a drop box link into Internet Explorer that is not an option.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] collection of accessible emulators for the blind

2011-03-27 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Valiant,

No, I do not have iTunes installed.  But I just checked and do have the Quick 
Time player from some where.  Thanks for the information.  I'm just not sure if 
I want to uninstall the quick time player.  Not sure if something might use it. 
 But again thanks for letting me know why Internet Explorer is doing that.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Jim,
Yeah? They do? You're quite something; I got Scansoft Jill with mine! Grin

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:36 PM
To: Thomas Ward
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

Hi Thomas,

As I said trucker was the second dos game that I converted to a Windows
game.  At the time I was using VB4.  I dropped a text box on the form and
put text to it.  When I did, I highlighted the text and held it highlighted
for half a second.  That was why Jaws saw and read it automatically.  Too
bad as I said JFW was the only Windows screen reader that did.

I was once asked what I thought was one special thing about my games.  And I
answered that I have always had built in review keys.  Mostly I use the
function keys f1 through f12.  Like in hangman it will pronounce the letters
and spaces etc.  And in my baseball game they speak things such as the
inning, ball and strike count, score etc.  So that is one way around the
sapi5 option not having the text on the screen to review with the screen
reader.  You just build it into the game.  I even did that back in the dos
games.  In those I just rewrote the text on the screen and all of the dos
screen readers spoke it.

That is a puzzler about Phillip and the Neo Speech voices.  I have always
used the same sapi5 code and it works for all of my ATT, Microsoft,
ScanSoft, Cepstral and Neo Speech voices.

Isn't that funny that people thing that the sapi5 voices come with the
games?

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

2011-03-27 Thread Sky Mundell

Hello Shane, where do you get the battle Zone game? I would like to play
that game.


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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

2011-03-27 Thread Sky Mundell
Never mind I got the battle Zone game and I am going to start playing it,
Who was the developer of the game? I have a suggestion. In the installer,
the game doesn't ask you what folder you would like to put it in. I put it
in c:'program files, but all of my other games are on c:\users\sky\games
that's because I'm running windows 7.
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Hello Shane, where do you get the battle Zone game? I would like to play
that game.


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Re: [Audyssey] old games was, shell shock

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Well, that's true to a point. The fact of the matter is most software
for Windows now days is being developed around the new Microsoft .Net
technologies so .Net is an essential dependency for a lot of new
software anyway. That's why Vista ships with .Net Framework 3.0 and
Windows 7 now ships with .Net 4.0 out of the box. It is now a
preinstalled core component of the operating system. So that in and of
itself doesn't bother me. In say three to five years most of the
Windows XP systems will be most likely beginning to be
updated./replaced by newer, faster, and better 64bit systems running
Windows 7 with at least .Net 4.0. So in the long term sticking with
.Net is on a developers side as the extra dependencies that were such
a pain three or four years ago are going to no longer be an issue
since Microsoft has already made them core components for every
Windows Vista and Windows 7 system built over the last three years or
so.


The real big issue I have with the current STFC and Montezuma's
Revenge is the DirectX components I used. Early in 2004 as part of
their DirectX 9 marketing campaign Microsoft unvailed there Managed
DirectX components all designed for .Net 1.1. I like a number of
independant software developers using C# .Net and Visual Basic .Net
migrated quickly to the new API. In 20006 Microsoft was hinting at
Managed DirectX 2.0 to ship with .Net Framework 2.0. It never
appeared. Instead a few days after Windows Vista was released
Microsoft pulled a double wammy on the game developers. They announced
that as of August 2008 Managed DirectX was going to be deprecated and
that there were beginning an all new API called the XNA Framework that
was suppose to work hand in hand with the cross-platform API they were
developing for the XBox 360. Well, when XNA 1.0 hit the scene I
downloaded it expecting to switch games like Monte over to it right
away only to discover it wasn't accessible to a blind developer. You
have to use a program called XAct to create pack files containing
soundbanks which then are loaded into XAudio and played based on the
settings stored in the Soundbank. So if you couldn't see to check the
boxes to loop sounds, to enable 3d positioning, etc you were pretty
much screwed. Which I royally was. Microsoft had dropped the
technology I was using and gave me one that was far less accessible
and I was stuck. At that time SlimDX didn't exist and I wasn't about
to fork over hundreds of dollars to Firelight for FMOD Ex. I might
have been satisfied with Managed DirectX as is, but it turned out it
has a few nasty bugs that Microsoft hadn't fixed and never were going
to fix. So you see in that way my games like STFC and Montezuma's
Revenge were no better off than those being written in VB 6 all
because Microsoft had pulled the rug out from under me by promising
one API and delivering a different one I couldn't use. That's what
prompted my switch to C++.


Of course, things with .Net game development is a bit different now.
Microsoft's idea to cancel Managed DirectX and replace it with XNA
didn't go over with everyone. I can say there were a number of people
on the DirectX mailing list, most of them mainstream companies, who
were up in arms about the surprise  API change. All of us were
expecting the release ofMDX 2.0 and Microsoft happily announces XNA
1.0 which meant everybody had to rewrite substantial amount of code to
use it. People were pretty steamed over it. Out of that outrage began
an open source project called SlimDX. It is essentially Managed
DirectX under a new name and written by a core group of open source
developers who wanted to maintain a .Net implamentation of DirectX
that supported DirectSound, DirectMusic, DirectPlay, DirectInput, etc.
In other words everything Microsoft was trashing like yesterdays
garbage in favor of the XNA libraries.


Then, about that time were other open source developers who wanted to
replace MDX with LibSDL. SDL has long been favored as the open source
answer to DirectX on Mac and Linux, and so SDL .Net began. At the time
I looked at it SDL .net wasn't that good. However, now days it is
maturing into a very nice cross-platform API for game developers. Had
I the the source code for Monte or STFC I might well just yank out the
MS garbage, replace it with SDL .Net, and release it as open source.
Indeed, I'm highly thinking of SDL more and more for my games since it
is A, very small, B, they have no problems with redistributing it, and
C, it is cross-platform. I think the only hang up is I have to put
some sort of notice in my licensing info that SDL is free and open
source, but in the main that's not a huge issue considering SDL would
solve a lot of problems with companies like Microsoft changing
technologies as quickly as they change their underware. I'd at least
have a stable API/platform to build my games upon.

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Re: [Audyssey] Sound FX contest

2011-03-27 Thread Hayden Presley
Could I have a link to these? I lost the message.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:23 AM
To: Ken the Crazy; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sound FX contest

Hmmm listened to the sounds.
The siron and drill and in fact most of them sound like one of those 
electric drills.
These have been in sound libraries, but I think my dad has a drill 
like that sort of, its probably a battery drill of some sort since an 
electric can't make that noise though it could be that to.
It could be a small or medium drill.
The first skyfi sound had some elements, also some bell and maybe a door.
The second did not download right and the decoder had issues with 
decoding but it sounded like a bird maybe with drill elements in it.
At 05:53 a.m. 22/03/2011, you wrote:
Ok yall, just to make your lives a bit more interesting, (Yeah, I 
know--some of you wish they were a bit *less* interesting,) I am 
posting a link to a small set of sound effects I created this morning.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/KensSfx.zip
is where you can get the file.  It has five or six MP3 files inside.
Here's the deal--I'm running a contest.  If any of you can guess how 
I made any of the sounds in that package, I'll give you two hours of 
free sound design.  This is a contest--a game, so post your answers 
right on list.  Let's see how well you can get your imaginations working.
Oh, and I don't want answers like, Well, you took some sound, 
applied a Doppler affect, put in some nasty sounding reverb, added 
some echoes...
That's all obvious.  What I want to see is if you can figure out 
what's underneath the editing.  I'll give you one hint: I didn't 
just record a dentist's drill and modify it.  That would be 
cheating.  I recorded, right from my own home, any of the sounds you 
hear that are NOT synthesized--but which ones...
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Re: [Audyssey] Thoughts on Community Projects

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim,

Yeah, I've always wondered why some people are under the illusion that
some Sapi voices ship with the game. Of course, a person can, if they
wish, bundle a setup of Mike, Mary, and Sam with their installs but
they can't legally do that for anything else unless they have a
distribution right. Technically, I'm not suppose to record voice clips
of commercial Sapi voices but I currently do. I'm still debating how
to handle that sticky issue. I figure before I release MOTA 1.0 I'll
have to remove the voice clips and turn on the Sapi support in G3D
instead.

However, it is kind of funny, I don't remember which list it was on,
but this gguy ask me how to install the voice for MOTA so he could use
it with Jaws. I'm like what? It is just a bunch of wav files I
recorded using Acapela Heather. Apparently he wasn't aware I was only
using voice samples of a Sapi voice and believed he had the real thing
installed on his system.


Anyway, I understand what you are saying about the review keys and
that's not quite what I meant. Yes, your review keys are helpful,
downright necessary in most games, but that doesn't work in
triditional text adventure games whare you must absolutely know the
correct spelling of words to type the commands.

For instance, let's say you are playing a space adventure. Let's just
say Star Trek for example. You have to go to the Klingon homeworld
Qo'nos. Now, I already know no Sapi voice will say that word
correctly, and the spelling is weird. You need to physically review
the screen and have it spell out q o apostrophy n o s. So you can type
a command like
ggoto Qo'nos
into the game. Sapi voices alone often fail to work in those games
because short of building in a screen reader into the game its pretty
hard to look up spellings on the fly. About the best you can do is
have a cheat sheet  of commands or spellings open in Notepad to lookup
words you might not know how to spell.

As for the Neospeech voices as I told Philip I think it has something
to do with the C++ implamentation of Sapi. Back when I was using C#
.Net and Visual Basic .Net for my games I had no such issues with
Neospeech Kate or Paul either. However, when I was testing G3D after I
added Sapi 5 support those voices didn't work right. I thought it was
my own mistake, thought it was a bug in my code, but now that Philip
too has this problem with BGT there is something wrong with the Sapi 5
SDK for C++ developers I think.

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Re: [Audyssey] light battles

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jack,

I don't know who or what your sources are, but they are way off. Jedi
Quest is a dead project. The lead developer for LightTech up and quit
several months back, and although their website is up they are
effectively out of business. So please stop giving the list false hope
based on out of date information.

As for Super Liam 2 I've already answered that one. Liam is now
working at a real programming job, and all of his game projects are
more or less on hold until such time he has to actually work on them.
No great mystery there why we aren't seeing a lot of new games from
that corner these days. Although, he did manage to produce a new
version of Super Egg Hunt so we should all thank Liam for that upgrade
given his lack of free time these days.

As for Chillingham 2 all I can say is you have more faith in Bavisoft
than I do. As others have said it has been 7 or 8 years since they
have produced anything, and I can say from a programmer's personal
point of view that it shouldn't take that long to produce Chillingham
2. Even giving them a break on the length of time to say it is in
early development is a bit of a open ended statement. Are you saying
that they only just started it right now, or did they start it and
forget about it for x number of years and start up again?

You see if I started a project 7 years ago and continued working on it
for an hour or two a day I wouldn't call that early development at
all because the product I'd have would be very very safisticated by
now. Although, MOTA is three years old in actuallity most of that time
was spent developing a game engine for developing the future USA Games
titles, and serious development on the game itself has only been over
the last three/four months. So that's less than your 7 or 8 years of
time and I have created something a lot more safisticated than
Chillingham 2 in a lot less time. So I think Bavisoft is just blowing
smoke.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Sound FX contest

2011-03-27 Thread The Addictor

Yep, here you go.  Hope you like 'em.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/KensSfx.zip
Ken Downey
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sound FX contest



Could I have a link to these? I lost the message.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Behalf Of shaun everiss
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:23 AM
To: Ken the Crazy; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sound FX contest

Hmmm listened to the sounds.
The siron and drill and in fact most of them sound like one of those
electric drills.
These have been in sound libraries, but I think my dad has a drill
like that sort of, its probably a battery drill of some sort since an
electric can't make that noise though it could be that to.
It could be a small or medium drill.
The first skyfi sound had some elements, also some bell and maybe a door.
The second did not download right and the decoder had issues with
decoding but it sounded like a bird maybe with drill elements in it.
At 05:53 a.m. 22/03/2011, you wrote:

Ok yall, just to make your lives a bit more interesting, (Yeah, I
know--some of you wish they were a bit *less* interesting,) I am
posting a link to a small set of sound effects I created this morning.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13071564/KensSfx.zip
is where you can get the file.  It has five or six MP3 files inside.
Here's the deal--I'm running a contest.  If any of you can guess how
I made any of the sounds in that package, I'll give you two hours of
free sound design.  This is a contest--a game, so post your answers
right on list.  Let's see how well you can get your imaginations working.
Oh, and I don't want answers like, Well, you took some sound,
applied a Doppler affect, put in some nasty sounding reverb, added
some echoes...
That's all obvious.  What I want to see is if you can figure out
what's underneath the editing.  I'll give you one hint: I didn't
just record a dentist's drill and modify it.  That would be
cheating.  I recorded, right from my own home, any of the sounds you
hear that are NOT synthesized--but which ones...
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Re: [Audyssey] battle zone

2011-03-27 Thread The Addictor
I have to say that this game is quite addictive.  I couldn't hear the pit 
sound very well, so I did modify that one sound.  I yelled, Look out! 
Watch where you're steppin'!  I mixed that yell into the pit sound two 
times, one at the beginning and one about five seconds later--but there are 
still like ten seconds of wind after, so often I still fall into the pit 
only to be told, as I plummet to my death, to watch my step.
Anyway, even with that extra bit of help I find the game rather difficult. 
No, I'm not complaining--I love it!  I haven't got past level 3, and I keep 
dying for some unknown reason I haven't figured out get.


Two improvements I'd like to see:
1.  Sometimes, items fall just as you are completing a level, and you're 
stuck listening to a high-pitched shriek as you're told your stats. 
Stopping all sounds would fix it.
2.  An analog jumping system would be killer.  It would make things a lot 
harder, but it would be worth it.

Thanks, and love the game!
Ken Downey
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] battle zone




Hello Shane, where do you get the battle Zone game? I would like to play
that game.


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[Audyssey] Laughing hard core: was light battles

2011-03-27 Thread The Addictor

Chillingham!  Ha ha ha ha ha!  Coming out soon!
Hee hee hee hee!  Oh my!  Thanks for the gut-busting laugh!  Ha ha ha ha! 
Ouch!  My ribs hurt now!  Ha ha ha!  Oh my!  Ho ho ho!  Oh I've got tears in 
my eyes I'm laughing so hard!  ROFL


Ken Downey
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] light battles



Hi Jack,

I don't know who or what your sources are, but they are way off. Jedi
Quest is a dead project. The lead developer for LightTech up and quit
several months back, and although their website is up they are
effectively out of business. So please stop giving the list false hope
based on out of date information.

As for Super Liam 2 I've already answered that one. Liam is now
working at a real programming job, and all of his game projects are
more or less on hold until such time he has to actually work on them.
No great mystery there why we aren't seeing a lot of new games from
that corner these days. Although, he did manage to produce a new
version of Super Egg Hunt so we should all thank Liam for that upgrade
given his lack of free time these days.

As for Chillingham 2 all I can say is you have more faith in Bavisoft
than I do. As others have said it has been 7 or 8 years since they
have produced anything, and I can say from a programmer's personal
point of view that it shouldn't take that long to produce Chillingham
2. Even giving them a break on the length of time to say it is in
early development is a bit of a open ended statement. Are you saying
that they only just started it right now, or did they start it and
forget about it for x number of years and start up again?

You see if I started a project 7 years ago and continued working on it
for an hour or two a day I wouldn't call that early development at
all because the product I'd have would be very very safisticated by
now. Although, MOTA is three years old in actuallity most of that time
was spent developing a game engine for developing the future USA Games
titles, and serious development on the game itself has only been over
the last three/four months. So that's less than your 7 or 8 years of
time and I have created something a lot more safisticated than
Chillingham 2 in a lot less time. So I think Bavisoft is just blowing
smoke.

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

2011-03-27 Thread Shiny protector

Hi Fred,

What you have to do is this. You go to start menu, go to battle zone, then 
you go to play battle xone then you should hear the bgt message and your 
done. Just press enter and the game will start after the bgt intro message.
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Thank you.

Do I load the game first or the toolkit, I think it is?

Fred Olver

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You need bgt to play battlezone.

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What is this second file for???
F
red Olver

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here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/Battle_Zone12.8_Setup.exe
You can get bgt here
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/blastbay%20game%20toolkit%20%28BGT%29/bgt_english_installer1.0.exe

Shane

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!



Where can I find the game battle zone?


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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list; b...@lists.blind-planet.com
Subject: [Audyssey] I did something right for once!

Hi all!
I made a game recording of battlezone at 3 in the morning and one!
I remembered at the last moment that it was probally going on the site 
so

edited out the winning sound.
Yes the link is flopbox so let me know if the download link expires 
and I'll

refresh it.
the link is
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19927380/battlezonesite/Battlezone_Full_Game_Recordi
ng.mp3

Thanks send comments,
Shane
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