Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Thomas, Thanks, got it now. Very much appreciated. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Setting Goldwave 5 to record in unbounded mode is very easy to set. In Goldwave 5 if you press f11 to bring up the Control Properties, and then control+tab to the Recording page you'll find what you are looking for. At the very end of the Recording Control Properties is a radio button called Record Mode. If you down arrow a couple of times you'll come to Unbounded. Tab to ok and its set. Cheers! Jim Unbreakable toys are good for breaking other toys. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Thomas, Thanks. Gold Wave does now seem to work as you said. It may be because I used the tab key to move to and highlight the last folder. I know that I do not have the latest version of Gold Wave. I do have three different fairly old versions. On this Computer it is 5.22, and on my game development computer it is 4.26 and 5.25. I do not really know why I have not up dated for so long other than that they work now. But the 4.26 is because I have not been able to find and check the record unbounded on the newer versions. BFN Jim Feel lucky Update your software! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Ben, I'm not sure why it didn't work when I tried it, but I did use the tab key to go to and highlight the last folder, and now Gold Wave does seem to work as you and Thomas said. Thanks. BFN Jim Chaos, panic and disorder . . . my work here is done. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi tom. Those sound pretty usefull actually especialy for making data more portable than with a powered drive. I might considder getting one myself, though sinse my laptop battery isn't in the best condition I'd once again just use it for backups and transporting stuff. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi dark, Backing up frequently is definitely the best way to secure your data. The more backups you have the greater the chances your data will survive a catastrophic PC failure, virus, or whatever. As my high school computer teacher use to say over and over again save early and save often. Well, the key today is back up early and back up often. On 10/22/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Fair enough, at least not having them in a folder who's name refers to documents helps, though given that uac seems to cause problems for installing older software I'll have to turn it off anyway so that's not really as much an issue for me. Of course, the ultimate in security is frequent backups, which is why i do that on a very regular basis, and really there's no better way to keep stuff safe. when my first machine broke in 2008, I'd have been in a right mess without all my backups, indeed I've got stuff on there which I've head for years, such as the 2nd edition dd rules in ms word format, as well as lots! of games and audio. Beware the grue! Dark. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Hi tom. That is true, but unfortunately mostt people don't take the advice. when I bought my desktop in 2008, after my previous machine's hard drive basically failed, the nice local place I got it from said apparently I was the first person they've ever encountered who, after a computer crash just wanted to buy a new machine and wasn't asking them to try recover lots of stuff from a broken old one. People don't seem to remember unfortunately, though having lived in the days of floppy disks where a fall from a desk could do in your data, I learnt the importance of backups very much! :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Thomas, Hmm, none of the ways that you mentioned work here. Gold Wave does not remember the last directory. And the context key will not bring up Gold Wave as a program to open a file with. Well, ok, a folder on a flash drive works almost the same as my c:\f, just not sure about the speed to and from. Weird that Gold Wave nor the context key work the same for me. Oh well, as long as we get the work done right? BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Well, if I'm editing sounds and music I usually put the sounds in c:\Users\Thomas\Edit which is in my local home directory. As I said before all I have to do is open theStart Menu, arrow to Edit, and there is all of my sound files. To open One in Goldwave all I have to do is find the file I want, press the Context Menu key, and arrow to open with Goldwave. So its not like the files are a billion layers deep, and since I open the files directly from Explorer I don't have to open Goldwave, press control+o, and type the full path into the open dialog. Besides even if I did use the open dialog Goldwave remembers which directory was open last so it defaults to c:\Users\Thomas\Edit anyway. So all I need do is type the file name and Goldwave will open it from the default location. Of course, I could edit the files from the flash drive directly. As I mentioned in a prior message I use flash drives for a lot of day to day work, so for me I could do e:\Edit\File.wav and open the file from the flash drive rather than storing it on my c: drive which is as easy as what you do now. Cheers! On 10/22/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm just curious, where do you keep all of the sound files that you are working on for a game. I make a simple folder such as c:\f That way when I need to open a sound file in Gold Wave after control o it is just c:\f\dung42.wav. Not some folder several layers deep. I guess that I just don't like to type so much more than I need to. BFN Jim This message was typed on recycled phosphorus j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA Jim My wife wouldn't know I was missing unless my picture was on the side of a bon bon box. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Jim, I hate to say you're wrong about the gold wave thing. It can be found from the open with context menu, and it remembers the last directory. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: 23 October 2012 10:03 To: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Thomas, Hmm, none of the ways that you mentioned work here. Gold Wave does not remember the last directory. And the context key will not bring up Gold Wave as a program to open a file with. Well, ok, a folder on a flash drive works almost the same as my c:\f, just not sure about the speed to and from. Weird that Gold Wave nor the context key work the same for me. Oh well, as long as we get the work done right? BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Well, if I'm editing sounds and music I usually put the sounds in c:\Users\Thomas\Edit which is in my local home directory. As I said before all I have to do is open theStart Menu, arrow to Edit, and there is all of my sound files. To open One in Goldwave all I have to do is find the file I want, press the Context Menu key, and arrow to open with Goldwave. So its not like the files are a billion layers deep, and since I open the files directly from Explorer I don't have to open Goldwave, press control+o, and type the full path into the open dialog. Besides even if I did use the open dialog Goldwave remembers which directory was open last so it defaults to c:\Users\Thomas\Edit anyway. So all I need do is type the file name and Goldwave will open it from the default location. Of course, I could edit the files from the flash drive directly. As I mentioned in a prior message I use flash drives for a lot of day to day work, so for me I could do e:\Edit\File.wav and open the file from the flash drive rather than storing it on my c: drive which is as easy as what you do now. Cheers! On 10/22/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm just curious, where do you keep all of the sound files that you are working on for a game. I make a simple folder such as c:\f That way when I need to open a sound file in Gold Wave after control o it is just c:\f\dung42.wav. Not some folder several layers deep. I guess that I just don't like to type so much more than I need to. BFN Jim This message was typed on recycled phosphorus j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA Jim My wife wouldn't know I was missing unless my picture was on the side of a bon bon box. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5348 - Release Date: 10/22/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Ben, I don't know, it doesn't work like that here. Control O in Gold Wave says open sound, file name, zero items. And as I said the context key and arrowing does not ever come up with Gold Wave, just Windows Media player and then Internet Explorer, Note Pad, Paint, Windows picture and fax viewer and Word Pad, that's it. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, I hate to say you're wrong about the gold wave thing. It can be found from the open with context menu, and it remembers the last directory. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: 23 October 2012 10:03 To: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Thomas, Hmm, none of the ways that you mentioned work here. Gold Wave does not remember the last directory. And the context key will not bring up Gold Wave as a program to open a file with. Well, ok, a folder on a flash drive works almost the same as my c:\f, just not sure about the speed to and from. Weird that Gold Wave nor the context key work the same for me. Oh well, as long as we get the work done right? BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Well, if I'm editing sounds and music I usually put the sounds in c:\Users\Thomas\Edit which is in my local home directory. As I said before all I have to do is open theStart Menu, arrow to Edit, and there is all of my sound files. To open One in Goldwave all I have to do is find the file I want, press the Context Menu key, and arrow to open with Goldwave. So its not like the files are a billion layers deep, and since I open the files directly from Explorer I don't have to open Goldwave, press control+o, and type the full path into the open dialog. Besides even if I did use the open dialog Goldwave remembers which directory was open last so it defaults to c:\Users\Thomas\Edit anyway. So all I need do is type the file name and Goldwave will open it from the default location. Of course, I could edit the files from the flash drive directly. As I mentioned in a prior message I use flash drives for a lot of day to day work, so for me I could do e:\Edit\File.wav and open the file from the flash drive rather than storing it on my c: drive which is as easy as what you do now. Cheers! On 10/22/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm just curious, where do you keep all of the sound files that you are working on for a game. I make a simple folder such as c:\f That way when I need to open a sound file in Gold Wave after control o it is just c:\f\dung42.wav. Not some folder several layers deep. I guess that I just don't like to type so much more than I need to. BFN Jim This message was typed on recycled phosphorus j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA Jim My wife wouldn't know I was missing unless my picture was on the side of a bon bon box. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Jim C. E. O. Kitchen's Inc. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Dark, Yeah, they are. The only problem I have found with the Passport drives, though, is the USB chord is proprietary to the units. When they go bad, which happened to me not long ago, you have to pay for a replacement chord which naturally costs more than a generic USB chord. That sort of bites. On 10/23/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. Those sound pretty usefull actually especialy for making data more portable than with a powered drive. I might considder getting one myself, though sinse my laptop battery isn't in the best condition I'd once again just use it for backups and transporting stuff. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Ben, Not only that but Goldwave remembers the last 10 files opened. I've found that quite useful when I need to open some files I was just working on because I can go to File and find the last file or files I opened a little while ago without searching for them. On 10/23/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: Hi Jim, I hate to say you're wrong about the gold wave thing. It can be found from the open with context menu, and it remembers the last directory. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
it will do that if a removable drive is used and removed or turned off when app opens. At 03:25 PM 10/23/2012, you wrote: Hi Jim, That's strange. What version of Goldwave are you running. I currently have 5.67 on this Windows 7 desktop. Perhaps you are running an older version that doesn't remember your last directory etc as it sure does here. As for the issue with the Context Menu key it sounds to me like Goldwave isn't associated with sound files in your system registry. That's an easy thing to fix. You can either press the Context Menu key on a sound file and go to properties to change the default media player or editor, or you can go to folder options under the tools menu, and add an file assocation for Goldwave to your known file types. Once you do that Goldwave will appear in your Context Menu as an option. Cheers! On 10/23/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Hmm, none of the ways that you mentioned work here. Gold Wave does not remember the last directory. And the context key will not bring up Gold Wave as a program to open a file with. Well, ok, a folder on a flash drive works almost the same as my c:\f, just not sure about the speed to and from. Weird that Gold Wave nor the context key work the same for me. Oh well, as long as we get the work done right? BFN --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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yep, when you open it that is what comes up in goldwave. you have to tab to the folder list and get your file. That is normal for goldwave. The second part is also right goldwave is not a Microsoft program. So it will not be listed by context key, but also may not be listed in the open with option. you may have to browser for it also in its list of programs, for your computer. At 06:03 AM 10/23/2012, you wrote: Hi Ben, I don't know, it doesn't work like that here. Control O in Gold Wave says open sound, file name, zero items. And as I said the context key and arrowing does not ever come up with Gold Wave, just Windows Media player and then Internet Explorer, Note Pad, Paint, Windows picture and fax viewer and Word Pad, that's it. BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, I hate to say you're wrong about the gold wave thing. It can be found from the open with context menu, and it remembers the last directory. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kitchen Sent: 23 October 2012 10:03 To: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Thomas, Hmm, none of the ways that you mentioned work here. Gold Wave does not remember the last directory. And the context key will not bring up Gold Wave as a program to open a file with. Well, ok, a folder on a flash drive works almost the same as my c:\f, just not sure about the speed to and from. Weird that Gold Wave nor the context key work the same for me. Oh well, as long as we get the work done right? BFN - Original Message - Hi Jim, Well, if I'm editing sounds and music I usually put the sounds in c:\Users\Thomas\Edit which is in my local home directory. As I said before all I have to do is open theStart Menu, arrow to Edit, and there is all of my sound files. To open One in Goldwave all I have to do is find the file I want, press the Context Menu key, and arrow to open with Goldwave. So its not like the files are a billion layers deep, and since I open the files directly from Explorer I don't have to open Goldwave, press control+o, and type the full path into the open dialog. Besides even if I did use the open dialog Goldwave remembers which directory was open last so it defaults to c:\Users\Thomas\Edit anyway. So all I need do is type the file name and Goldwave will open it from the default location. Of course, I could edit the files from the flash drive directly. As I mentioned in a prior message I use flash drives for a lot of day to day work, so for me I could do e:\Edit\File.wav and open the file from the flash drive rather than storing it on my c: drive which is as easy as what you do now. Cheers! On 10/22/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm just curious, where do you keep all of the sound files that you are working on for a game. I make a simple folder such as c:\f That way when I need to open a sound file in Gold Wave after control o it is just c:\f\dung42.wav. Not some folder several layers deep. I guess that I just don't like to type so much more than I need to. BFN Jim This message was typed on recycled phosphorus j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA Jim My wife wouldn't know I was missing unless my picture was on the side of a bon bon box. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Jim C. E. O. Kitchen's Inc. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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i got a drive inclosure that will handle any size 2.5 just like that. I use it when cleaning up laptops. At 03:58 PM 10/22/2012, you wrote: HI Dark, The Passport drives are fairly new. As I mentioned in a prior post they are produced by Western Digital. What they are is a small laptop hard drive seeled in a small plastic case with a single USB chord coming out one side of the case. they run directly off your computer's power via the USB port so no special power cables etc are necessary. The only downside to them is they will drain a laptop's battery pretty fast if you use it a lot while running a laptop off of battery. Still the small size of the drive and the fact they now have 2 TB Passport drives is a compromise between a flash drive and a bigger external drive. On 10/22/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I have never heard of passport drives which is why I backup on a powered 2 tb external. I do however frequently use thumb drives to transfer small amounts of stuff from my desktop to my laptop and visa versa when I've been using one or the other, or when I want to give something to a friend, however sinse a full backup of my machine would be about 600 gb worth they aren't big enough for a perminant solution, usefull though they still are. beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
well you have techs and techs. Shop techs are like using windows vista and windows me together. To solve problems, reformat and it will go away. Else pay us more cash than your system is worth. Oh by the way, your data costs money you want it you pay for us to save data before you reformat and if you don't pay us then there is no problem. I have had those. you need to find builders. They do reformat a lot to but at least you get some degree of support and they will give a reason for it. ie, the videocard is not working in this new system. Its probably not compatible. lets reformat to get rid of corruption and replace the card. see the difference? At 07:09 p.m. 23/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: If a tech tells you that you don't need such stuff. Just tell them you have a real tech in mind to work on your computer. i wouldn't even let them work my watch. At 03:34 PM 10/22/2012, you wrote: Hi Trouble, Agreed. Not running any antivirus software, antispyware software, etc on a Windows computer is a very bad idea. I don't care how much a tech someone thinks they are its essential to add security software on the system to insure the safety of the OS. Even a free antivirus program like Microsoft's Security Essentials is better than none, and there are better antivirus programs far better than that which are fairly affordable on a fixed income. Cheers! On 10/22/12, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: If that computer has any contact to the Internet. I would bet that there are at least 10 or more threats in hiding. i had a virus bring up a window and there was no connection by software to the Internet. I was just setting idle when it hit. If you are running any PC with windows software. You better be running some type of anti virus regardless of how macho of a tech you think you are. The only true safe windows computer are never connected to the Internet at all, and I do mean never. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
I have a flash drive well a couple drives I use when cleaning units. 4-8gb is all you need for needed software. Ofcause if you need a backup, I make a folder on my external drive seperate from everything else. I back up the system. Ofcause if this has viruses and such on it those go to that folder to. Then I scan the folder. on my system. Then I transfer it back. Then I kill the files. I do encourage the backing up of important files by users before they give me the system because I will have access to everything while its on the backup drive. At 07:10 p.m. 23/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: i got a drive inclosure that will handle any size 2.5 just like that. I use it when cleaning up laptops. At 03:58 PM 10/22/2012, you wrote: HI Dark, The Passport drives are fairly new. As I mentioned in a prior post they are produced by Western Digital. What they are is a small laptop hard drive seeled in a small plastic case with a single USB chord coming out one side of the case. they run directly off your computer's power via the USB port so no special power cables etc are necessary. The only downside to them is they will drain a laptop's battery pretty fast if you use it a lot while running a laptop off of battery. Still the small size of the drive and the fact they now have 2 TB Passport drives is a compromise between a flash drive and a bigger external drive. On 10/22/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I have never heard of passport drives which is why I backup on a powered 2 tb external. I do however frequently use thumb drives to transfer small amounts of stuff from my desktop to my laptop and visa versa when I've been using one or the other, or when I want to give something to a friend, however sinse a full backup of my machine would be about 600 gb worth they aren't big enough for a perminant solution, usefull though they still are. beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Sure do see it. Thats why I learned it. At 07:57 PM 10/23/2012, you wrote: well you have techs and techs. Shop techs are like using windows vista and windows me together. To solve problems, reformat and it will go away. Else pay us more cash than your system is worth. Oh by the way, your data costs money you want it you pay for us to save data before you reformat and if you don't pay us then there is no problem. I have had those. you need to find builders. They do reformat a lot to but at least you get some degree of support and they will give a reason for it. ie, the videocard is not working in this new system. Its probably not compatible. lets reformat to get rid of corruption and replace the card. see the difference? At 07:09 p.m. 23/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: If a tech tells you that you don't need such stuff. Just tell them you have a real tech in mind to work on your computer. i wouldn't even let them work my watch. At 03:34 PM 10/22/2012, you wrote: Hi Trouble, Agreed. Not running any antivirus software, antispyware software, etc on a Windows computer is a very bad idea. I don't care how much a tech someone thinks they are its essential to add security software on the system to insure the safety of the OS. Even a free antivirus program like Microsoft's Security Essentials is better than none, and there are better antivirus programs far better than that which are fairly affordable on a fixed income. Cheers! On 10/22/12, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote: If that computer has any contact to the Internet. I would bet that there are at least 10 or more threats in hiding. i had a virus bring up a window and there was no connection by software to the Internet. I was just setting idle when it hit. If you are running any PC with windows software. You better be running some type of anti virus regardless of how macho of a tech you think you are. The only true safe windows computer are never connected to the Internet at all, and I do mean never. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Thomas, I'm just curious, where do you keep all of the sound files that you are working on for a game. I make a simple folder such as c:\f That way when I need to open a sound file in Gold Wave after control o it is just c:\f\dung42.wav. Not some folder several layers deep. I guess that I just don't like to type so much more than I need to. BFN Jim This message was typed on recycled phosphorus j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Thomas. Well, I store most of my important documents, files and other media content on an external hard drive for security and because its more portable. I only ever access the drive when I need something and then I usually copy a temporary version to my main hard drive which I will then replace on my external once i have done with it. This way I can prevent disclosure of any of my personal files should I unfortunately become the victim of a security breech such as a virus, malware infection etc.. All the best, Ibrahim. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Ibrahim, Well, you will get no argument from me that a lot of the problems with Windows comes down to end users being ignorent of what tools are available for maintaining their system and I blame the manufacturers for not including a default schedule for handling various maintenance tasks. However, I will stick to my point the more stuff you put on the drive the slower it will get. To give you an example there was a Win 7 computer here that I did basic maintenance on which improved system performance but it still booted slow and took forever to load applications. It turned out my wife had 250 GB of pictures and videos on the drive. We got an external drive, moved everything to the external, and deleted everything from the c: drive. The moment we deleted all 250 GB of pictures and home videos Windows 7 ran twice as fast. So I have proof that putting too much stuff on c: is a performance killer as I've seen it firsthand. On 10/21/12, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com wrote: Hi Thomas. I regularly maintain and optimise computers for customers and I can assure you that simply isn't the case. Its more down to the ignorance of users in basic computer maintenance teqniques, added to the fact that manufacturers don't seem to want to put basic maintenance software or even set up a maintenance schedule using the tools in Windows on their computers. There are a number of things you can do, including regularly defragmenting and cleaning out the hard drive and registry, optimising the list of services and start-up programs that load with Windows, cleaning out browser cache files and cookies; These are all relatively straight forward and can be performed with little or no effort. I recommend programs that can do most if not all of this for the customers as part of their consultation as well as train said customers in the use of these tools where appropriate. All the best, Ibrahim. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
I know, c cleaner for registry clean-ups, cooky deletion temp internet files etc because IE can't do it properly, AVG for antivirus and malware etc because again the inbuilt firewall is crap and they've made no allowances for inbuilt security, it's stupid. Really is stupid. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 22 October 2012 00:15 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Darren, Let's not go there. Windows has a lot of problems besides the fact it has a porely designed partition table. I could write the book on registry errors, waisted space do to temperary internet files, the junk Windows leaves behind when removing programs, etc and sadly that won't change most Windows user's minds on the OS. What I find crazy is the fact that more than 80% of computer users use and like Windows even though its probably the most poorrly designed and unstable operating system on the market. The really sad part is very few Windows users realize that the programs they use like registry cleaners, antivirus programs, spyware software, disk clean up utilities, etc all are because of the short comings of the OS itself and its like putting a bandaid on a cut that really needs stitches. On 10/21/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I know, but then it doesn't stop there does it, I mean windows can't even uninstall things properly can it. it leaves all sorts of rubbish in the registry which a programme like c cleaner has to clean out. a lot of things that you need on a windows machine, it's all because of shortcomings of the OS. Crazy really. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi tom, Yes they do have a 2tb drive as in passport drive. I have 1 and it's really good. They definitely are the way to go if I'm being honest with you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 22 October 2012 01:01 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. HiDark, Well, these days there are a number of storage devices that don't require any extra power cables etc. There are the passport drives by Western Digital that have a slim laptop drive in a small plastic case that runs off your laptop battery rather than an external power source. I believe they now have a passport drive that can hold about 2 TB of data. So they are handy little drives that can hold a lot of data, and are very portible. Then, there are the thumb drives, flash drives, etc that can hold 8, 16, 32, or 64 GB of data. They don't hold a lot of data compared to a passport drive but are small enough to slide into a pants or coat pocket and plug it into your laptop etc when you want to access something. The nice thing is they don't have any motors etc inside them so they don't require a lot of power and are pretty much the floppy discks of the future. The other alternative is flash cards. Many new computers such as my Toshiba laptop comes with a Flash card reader. You can buy flash cards anywhere from 8 GB to 32 GB in size and they are very small. You can insert them and pop them out as easily as a floppy disc, and have up to 32 GB of storage space at a pop. In fact, I use flash cards like floppies and have a portible USB flash card reader to use on my older computers that don't have one built in. Bottom line, you don't have to have a huge 2 TB drive with a bunch of external power cables etc to back up your data. There are several different alternatives on the market, and I personally use more than one as there are pros and cons with each. On 10/21/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: To be honest, I'd rather not use an external drive perminantly just because of the need for more powerpoints, cables etc. while I'm very fond of my external 2 Tb drive, I only want it out when i'm actually backing stuff up. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
It definitely is, the other killer is toolbars. They are resource eaters in a big big way. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 22 October 2012 01:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Ibrahim, Well, you will get no argument from me that a lot of the problems with Windows comes down to end users being ignorent of what tools are available for maintaining their system and I blame the manufacturers for not including a default schedule for handling various maintenance tasks. However, I will stick to my point the more stuff you put on the drive the slower it will get. To give you an example there was a Win 7 computer here that I did basic maintenance on which improved system performance but it still booted slow and took forever to load applications. It turned out my wife had 250 GB of pictures and videos on the drive. We got an external drive, moved everything to the external, and deleted everything from the c: drive. The moment we deleted all 250 GB of pictures and home videos Windows 7 ran twice as fast. So I have proof that putting too much stuff on c: is a performance killer as I've seen it firsthand. On 10/21/12, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com wrote: Hi Thomas. I regularly maintain and optimise computers for customers and I can assure you that simply isn't the case. Its more down to the ignorance of users in basic computer maintenance teqniques, added to the fact that manufacturers don't seem to want to put basic maintenance software or even set up a maintenance schedule using the tools in Windows on their computers. There are a number of things you can do, including regularly defragmenting and cleaning out the hard drive and registry, optimising the list of services and start-up programs that load with Windows, cleaning out browser cache files and cookies; These are all relatively straight forward and can be performed with little or no effort. I recommend programs that can do most if not all of this for the customers as part of their consultation as well as train said customers in the use of these tools where appropriate. All the best, Ibrahim. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
personally i just use avg pc tuneup for cookiedeletion, defragging, fixing disk errors, registry fixing, removing temporary files and the like (it's got some very handy file shredding and disk wiping tools if I ever need them too), and the full version of avg for antivirus and antispyware, plus the antirootkit scan. These are commercial programs, but I've been very happy with the way they've both worked, indeed sinse I've used avg pc tuneup it's literally doubled my download speed as well as generally speedng everything up, especially at startup. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
If that computer has any contact to the Internet. I would bet that there are at least 10 or more threats in hiding. i had a virus bring up a window and there was no connection by software to the Internet. I was just setting idle when it hit. If you are running any PC with windows software. You better be running some type of anti virus regardless of how macho of a tech you think you are. The only true safe windows computer are never connected to the Internet at all, and I do mean never. At 09:51 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote: I aggree with you tom. I know a person, a local admin that doesn't use antivirus, spyware firewalls or even updates anything because it would be damaged by the updates or software. His view is that its all coman sence, and you just turn everything off when not using it. Though in a perfect world I'd aggree with him I couldn't be bothered doing that. Though seriously he is probably correct. At 07:40 p.m. 21/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Dark, Well, in terms of Windows 7 verses XP the local directory structure has been redesigned and makes more sence. Rather than music, videos, pictures, all going into your My Documents folder all of them are separate in your Home directory. For example, on Windows 7 my home directory is c:\Users\Thomas. Under c:\Users\Thomas is Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos, and so on. Therefore if I click on the Thomas icon in the Start Menu all of my documents, music, and videos are organized logically anyway. I see no need to put my music in c:\Music when I can bring up the Start Menu, cclic on the Music icon, and go directly to c:\Users\Thomas\Music instantly or click on Thomas and then on Music. As far as the issue of choice you can still choose to put your files anywhere you want them if you disable security features like User Account Control, but it isn't the safest thing to do. The entire point of Microsoft restricting your c: drive from general use is to protect it from unauthorized users and from malware. What you see as an issue of choice Microsoft sees as an issue of security. Sometimes choice and ssecurity aren't compatible, and this is a case in point. I might add that putting all of your faith in antivirus software etc is a bad idea. That isn't the only kind of security threat you have to worry about. Several years ago, back in the Win 98 days, I remember hearing about a rash of attacks where people were prowling chat sites, and once they found someone, they would get the other persons IP, login to their PC, and steel their personal data or destroy their data for kicks. The internet is a nasty place and if you think you put software x, y, z on there and are safe think again. There are all kinds of ways for people to hack into your internet connection and whipe your drive before you even know what hit you. The more layers of security you can put in place the less likely you will be a victom of cybercrime. That's the reason for UAC and the other things Microsoft is doing. On 10/21/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. it always just seemed silly to me having a folder called my Documents with a bunch of other folders that have dam all to do with documents. plus again, i like to distinguish things like text games and audio books by having them in their own folders. While I see the logic in having folders for each user, when your the only user on a system it doesn't make sense, besides as I've said before %90 of the problems I've ever! had in windows have been to do with user accounts going wrong at startup, getting corrupted or otherwise causing trouble. Frankly that's why I like sticking stuff where I want to put it, meaning I exactly know where it is, what folders I've created etc. Again, this is another reason why I like xp, it gives me! the max amount of choice on organizing my system, it's ui display and everything else, but choice seems not to be microsoft's current thinking anymore, nor indeed apples with what I've heard of the Iphone's proprietory file system. as for security, well that's what I pay Avg for. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Read a book on Microsoft. They didn't get the job, it was bought. IBM already had there version of dos running and you had OS2 running around then too. At 09:48 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote: well everyone uses windows tom, everything runs on it. The same would have been true if apple was the dominant system. or even dos. In fact if ms had never gotten the job of making dos with ibm back in 1980 we would still be on cpm or some sort of unix, not linux, unix. At 07:14 p.m. 21/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Darren, Let's not go there. Windows has a lot of problems besides the fact it has a porely designed partition table. I could write the book on registry errors, waisted space do to temperary internet files, the junk Windows leaves behind when removing programs, etc and sadly that won't change most Windows user's minds on the OS. What I find crazy is the fact that more than 80% of computer users use and like Windows even though its probably the most poorrly designed and unstable operating system on the market. The really sad part is very few Windows users realize that the programs they use like registry cleaners, antivirus programs, spyware software, disk clean up utilities, etc all are because of the short comings of the OS itself and its like putting a bandaid on a cut that really needs stitches. On 10/21/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I know, but then it doesn't stop there does it, I mean windows can't even uninstall things properly can it. it leaves all sorts of rubbish in the registry which a programme like c cleaner has to clean out. a lot of things that you need on a windows machine, it's all because of shortcomings of the OS. Crazy really. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Now you can't put that all on the OS. When programs are done right and not halfassed. You will find them not leaving trash behind. But, why add the extra code when people gripe over the size of the download. That is how you get instability on the op and the more you run the more unstable you get down the road. At 07:14 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote: Hi Darren, Let's not go there. Windows has a lot of problems besides the fact it has a porely designed partition table. I could write the book on registry errors, waisted space do to temperary internet files, the junk Windows leaves behind when removing programs, etc and sadly that won't change most Windows user's minds on the OS. What I find crazy is the fact that more than 80% of computer users use and like Windows even though its probably the most poorrly designed and unstable operating system on the market. The really sad part is very few Windows users realize that the programs they use like registry cleaners, antivirus programs, spyware software, disk clean up utilities, etc all are because of the short comings of the OS itself and its like putting a bandaid on a cut that really needs stitches. On 10/21/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I know, but then it doesn't stop there does it, I mean windows can't even uninstall things properly can it. it leaves all sorts of rubbish in the registry which a programme like c cleaner has to clean out. a lot of things that you need on a windows machine, it's all because of shortcomings of the OS. Crazy really. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
If that is your thoughts, Please don't send out any files! At 07:02 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote: Hi dark, Don't rely soley on antivirus programmes etc for absolute security. It never works. Personally I don't think it matters. The safest way to store stuff is and will always be externaly. Or on any drive other than c. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 October 2012 23:43 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Tom. it always just seemed silly to me having a folder called my Documents with a bunch of other folders that have dam all to do with documents. plus again, i like to distinguish things like text games and audio books by having them in their own folders. While I see the logic in having folders for each user, when your the only user on a system it doesn't make sense, besides as I've said before %90 of the problems I've ever! had in windows have been to do with user accounts going wrong at startup, getting corrupted or otherwise causing trouble. Frankly that's why I like sticking stuff where I want to put it, meaning I exactly know where it is, what folders I've created etc. Again, this is another reason why I like xp, it gives me! the max amount of choice on organizing my system, it's ui display and everything else, but choice seems not to be microsoft's current thinking anymore, nor indeed apples with what I've heard of the Iphone's proprietory file system. as for security, well that's what I pay Avg for. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Jim, Well, if I'm editing sounds and music I usually put the sounds in c:\Users\Thomas\Edit which is in my local home directory. As I said before all I have to do is open theStart Menu, arrow to Edit, and there is all of my sound files. To open One in Goldwave all I have to do is find the file I want, press the Context Menu key, and arrow to open with Goldwave. So its not like the files are a billion layers deep, and since I open the files directly from Explorer I don't have to open Goldwave, press control+o, and type the full path into the open dialog. Besides even if I did use the open dialog Goldwave remembers which directory was open last so it defaults to c:\Users\Thomas\Edit anyway. So all I need do is type the file name and Goldwave will open it from the default location. Of course, I could edit the files from the flash drive directly. As I mentioned in a prior message I use flash drives for a lot of day to day work, so for me I could do e:\Edit\File.wav and open the file from the flash drive rather than storing it on my c: drive which is as easy as what you do now. Cheers! On 10/22/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm just curious, where do you keep all of the sound files that you are working on for a game. I make a simple folder such as c:\f That way when I need to open a sound file in Gold Wave after control o it is just c:\f\dung42.wav. Not some folder several layers deep. I guess that I just don't like to type so much more than I need to. BFN Jim This message was typed on recycled phosphorus j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Same here, I have 2 drives. a large one which stores program backups and data as well as system bits, updated every so often though it may not be the most up to date. A 500gb drive which is basically a working drive for the xp laptop. my 120gb drive on the laptop has essentual data and programs only. I also have a 128mb flash and a 1 gb flash that I use for real important stuff like settings and a few important files I use every day. it also holds my favorites and such to. I have a dropbox cloud but since I read stories about how easy clouds can get hacked and trashed at times I am holding short of backing up any data to the cloud systems. At 10:59 a.m. 22/10/2012 +0100, you wrote: Hi Thomas. Well, I store most of my important documents, files and other media content on an external hard drive for security and because its more portable. I only ever access the drive when I need something and then I usually copy a temporary version to my main hard drive which I will then replace on my external once i have done with it. This way I can prevent disclosure of any of my personal files should I unfortunately become the victim of a security breech such as a virus, malware infection etc.. All the best, Ibrahim. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:21 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Ibrahim, Well, you will get no argument from me that a lot of the problems with Windows comes down to end users being ignorent of what tools are available for maintaining their system and I blame the manufacturers for not including a default schedule for handling various maintenance tasks. However, I will stick to my point the more stuff you put on the drive the slower it will get. To give you an example there was a Win 7 computer here that I did basic maintenance on which improved system performance but it still booted slow and took forever to load applications. It turned out my wife had 250 GB of pictures and videos on the drive. We got an external drive, moved everything to the external, and deleted everything from the c: drive. The moment we deleted all 250 GB of pictures and home videos Windows 7 ran twice as fast. So I have proof that putting too much stuff on c: is a performance killer as I've seen it firsthand. On 10/21/12, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com wrote: Hi Thomas. I regularly maintain and optimise computers for customers and I can assure you that simply isn't the case. Its more down to the ignorance of users in basic computer maintenance teqniques, added to the fact that manufacturers don't seem to want to put basic maintenance software or even set up a maintenance schedule using the tools in Windows on their computers. There are a number of things you can do, including regularly defragmenting and cleaning out the hard drive and registry, optimising the list of services and start-up programs that load with Windows, cleaning out browser cache files and cookies; These are all relatively straight forward and can be performed with little or no effort. I recommend programs that can do most if not all of this for the customers as part of their consultation as well as train said customers in the use of these tools where appropriate. All the best, Ibrahim. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
true, it was in an old version of secrets. ms didn't last with ibm either. they fell out with ibm in the 90s forget when though. At 08:32 a.m. 22/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Read a book on Microsoft. They didn't get the job, it was bought. IBM already had there version of dos running and you had OS2 running around then too. At 09:48 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote: well everyone uses windows tom, everything runs on it. The same would have been true if apple was the dominant system. or even dos. In fact if ms had never gotten the job of making dos with ibm back in 1980 we would still be on cpm or some sort of unix, not linux, unix. At 07:14 p.m. 21/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Darren, Let's not go there. Windows has a lot of problems besides the fact it has a porely designed partition table. I could write the book on registry errors, waisted space do to temperary internet files, the junk Windows leaves behind when removing programs, etc and sadly that won't change most Windows user's minds on the OS. What I find crazy is the fact that more than 80% of computer users use and like Windows even though its probably the most poorrly designed and unstable operating system on the market. The really sad part is very few Windows users realize that the programs they use like registry cleaners, antivirus programs, spyware software, disk clean up utilities, etc all are because of the short comings of the OS itself and its like putting a bandaid on a cut that really needs stitches. On 10/21/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I know, but then it doesn't stop there does it, I mean windows can't even uninstall things properly can it. it leaves all sorts of rubbish in the registry which a programme like c cleaner has to clean out. a lot of things that you need on a windows machine, it's all because of shortcomings of the OS. Crazy really. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hey, want to throw out a thanks to Shawn. My Adventure into Installer, brought me to Zello. Not sure if just happy or really happy. Working on no related items my Strat. By of Doug Lee Dot Org site. So pround of all you progs out there. A very number 1 site for being Blind Friendly. Any new compiled list of best game sites for 2012. Always a lot of fun to do. OH, K And if RaceWay up on any web site yet, got to be in top of llist. How about it Tommy nay news. I found Mister Ward got stuck on my Gmail servfer provider. Smiles, my 1956 HRFL season still on break. So, Sorry Tommy and any else had tried to email me by reply or off list. Just send me email at: gary...@cableone.net I get a little behind during a season and dong some clean up. In fact hope to see some new threads, when done shutting down old computer for a clean out of its own. Crash - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. true, it was in an old version of secrets. ms didn't last with ibm either. they fell out with ibm in the 90s forget when though. At 08:32 a.m. 22/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Read a book on Microsoft. They didn't get the job, it was bought. IBM already had there version of dos running and you had OS2 running around then too. At 09:48 PM 10/21/2012, you wrote: well everyone uses windows tom, everything runs on it. The same would have been true if apple was the dominant system. or even dos. In fact if ms had never gotten the job of making dos with ibm back in 1980 we would still be on cpm or some sort of unix, not linux, unix. At 07:14 p.m. 21/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Darren, Let's not go there. Windows has a lot of problems besides the fact it has a porely designed partition table. I could write the book on registry errors, waisted space do to temperary internet files, the junk Windows leaves behind when removing programs, etc and sadly that won't change most Windows user's minds on the OS. What I find crazy is the fact that more than 80% of computer users use and like Windows even though its probably the most poorrly designed and unstable operating system on the market. The really sad part is very few Windows users realize that the programs they use like registry cleaners, antivirus programs, spyware software, disk clean up utilities, etc all are because of the short comings of the OS itself and its like putting a bandaid on a cut that really needs stitches. On 10/21/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I know, but then it doesn't stop there does it, I mean windows can't even uninstall things properly can it. it leaves all sorts of rubbish in the registry which a programme like c cleaner has to clean out. a lot of things that you need on a windows machine, it's all because of shortcomings of the OS. Crazy really. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
hi tom, i totally agree with you. i really don't see any point in massive c drives i really don't. i've got 5 external hard drives connected to my pc. so as you can imagine booting up actually does take a while but it's not because of the amount stored on my c drive lol. i'm not someone that goes around fixing pc's etc, but i would still consider it common sense to not put stuff on the c drive if only because if ever you have to format the system, at least you won't lose all your material as well. yes you can move stuff off usually before formatting but there are instances where something may stop you from doing so. drive corruption for 1 and lets be honest the more you access a drive the more chance there is of it being corrupted. so it stands to reason that c drive stands a pretty good chance of going first. Sent from my iPad On 21 Oct 2012, at 05:33, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yes. I might add if a computer user uses the c: drive exclusively for the operating system, programs, etc while putting documents, mp3s, and basically everything else on an external drive it will massively improve performance.I can't tell you as a computer tech who does computer repairs how many people ask me why their computer is running slow and I only have to look at their personal documents folders to see they have a billion pictures, mp3s, etc which is causing the PC to slow down because the OS is taking longer and longer to find stuff on the drive. Its one of those things that most computer techs know, but never seems to be learned by the majority of average PC users. They seem to think they can run out and by a new PC with a huge 2 TB drive, fill it up with pictures and music and not expect the PC to slow down or take forever booting. Let alone have a plan in place for backing up all that stuff in case their computer dies. I suppose that kind of misunderstanding is encouraged by PC manufacturers by adding larger and larger drives to the PC when a drive that big is better as a storage drive not as a primary startup drive. On 10/20/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: hi, tom is right. i have several external drives actually. i never store anything on my c drive. that's purely for the operating system and any installed programmes. nothing more. everything else is shared between multiple drives. Sent from my iPad --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Thomas. I regularly maintain and optimise computers for customers and I can assure you that simply isn't the case. Its more down to the ignorance of users in basic computer maintenance teqniques, added to the fact that manufacturers don't seem to want to put basic maintenance software or even set up a maintenance schedule using the tools in Windows on their computers. There are a number of things you can do, including regularly defragmenting and cleaning out the hard drive and registry, optimising the list of services and start-up programs that load with Windows, cleaning out browser cache files and cookies; These are all relatively straight forward and can be performed with little or no effort. I recommend programs that can do most if not all of this for the customers as part of their consultation as well as train said customers in the use of these tools where appropriate. All the best, Ibrahim. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 5:33 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi, Yes. I might add if a computer user uses the c: drive exclusively for the operating system, programs, etc while putting documents, mp3s, and basically everything else on an external drive it will massively improve performance.I can't tell you as a computer tech who does computer repairs how many people ask me why their computer is running slow and I only have to look at their personal documents folders to see they have a billion pictures, mp3s, etc which is causing the PC to slow down because the OS is taking longer and longer to find stuff on the drive. Its one of those things that most computer techs know, but never seems to be learned by the majority of average PC users. They seem to think they can run out and by a new PC with a huge 2 TB drive, fill it up with pictures and music and not expect the PC to slow down or take forever booting. Let alone have a plan in place for backing up all that stuff in case their computer dies. I suppose that kind of misunderstanding is encouraged by PC manufacturers by adding larger and larger drives to the PC when a drive that big is better as a storage drive not as a primary startup drive. On 10/20/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: hi, tom is right. i have several external drives actually. i never store anything on my c drive. that's purely for the operating system and any installed programmes. nothing more. everything else is shared between multiple drives. Sent from my iPad --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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To be honest, I'd rather not use an external drive perminantly just because of the need for more powerpoints, cables etc. while I'm very fond of my external 2 Tb drive, I only want it out when i'm actually backing stuff up. I got a new internal E drive attached to my desktop last year, which I use for audio books and music. i suppose I could also transfer all my text documents onto there instead of using the my documents folder for them, however while 4 mb is a lot of text, it's equally not much in terms of actual space, but why microsoft expects pictures, music and other stuff to go in there I don't know. which is why i created several folders directly on the C (and now moved onto the E), drive, such as c:\music and C:\audio even C:\text games for all my zcode etc files. this is again why i don't like the idea of windows 7, sinse I prefer having full access to all folders on the drive and knowing where I! put things. music goes in C:\music, not in some random subdirectory, especially sinse I've occasionally had to diversify in folders, for instance I've recently separated all the material related to my actual singing such as accompanyments, recordings of my singing lessons etc, into one folder separate from my music folder so that when I stick my entire music folder on playaback in winamp and hit shuffle (as I sometimes do when washing up), I'm not treated to just! the piano accompanyment to handel's messiah or having my very scary singing teacher yelling at me about the position of my eyebrows! :D. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, If you use passport drives then you don't need loads of plugs. They run off the pc directly. Am running 2 simultaneously -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 October 2012 13:43 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. To be honest, I'd rather not use an external drive perminantly just because of the need for more powerpoints, cables etc. while I'm very fond of my external 2 Tb drive, I only want it out when i'm actually backing stuff up. I got a new internal E drive attached to my desktop last year, which I use for audio books and music. i suppose I could also transfer all my text documents onto there instead of using the my documents folder for them, however while 4 mb is a lot of text, it's equally not much in terms of actual space, but why microsoft expects pictures, music and other stuff to go in there I don't know. which is why i created several folders directly on the C (and now moved onto the E), drive, such as c:\music and C:\audio even C:\text games for all my zcode etc files. this is again why i don't like the idea of windows 7, sinse I prefer having full access to all folders on the drive and knowing where I! put things. music goes in C:\music, not in some random subdirectory, especially sinse I've occasionally had to diversify in folders, for instance I've recently separated all the material related to my actual singing such as accompanyments, recordings of my singing lessons etc, into one folder separate from my music folder so that when I stick my entire music folder on playaback in winamp and hit shuffle (as I sometimes do when washing up), I'm not treated to just! the piano accompanyment to handel's messiah or having my very scary singing teacher yelling at me about the position of my eyebrows! :D. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well Darren, I've heard of those, but there weren't any available when i decided I needed another drive besides the C drive, plus I do like the convenience of having everything internally and using an external drive to backup. Fortunately I do also use avg pc tuneup to do all the tasks like fixing registry errors, replacing shortcuts, deleting various temporary files and defragging the disk, so both of my drives are fairly clean. indeed, pc tuneup actually sped up my pc's performance by no end! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I know, but then it doesn't stop there does it, I mean windows can't even uninstall things properly can it. it leaves all sorts of rubbish in the registry which a programme like c cleaner has to clean out. a lot of things that you need on a windows machine, it's all because of shortcomings of the OS. Crazy really. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 21 October 2012 22:42 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Darren, True enough. Windows is especially bad about drive corruption and that is why Microsoft has to have tools like Disk Defrag to maintain the partition table. If they didn't the partition table where Windows resides would defragment and eventually become corrupted beyond recovery. That is precisely why I don't leave a lot of personal data on my C: drive unless I'm copying it to my laptop for portibility. Even then the data itself is backed up 12 ways to Sunday. :D On 10/21/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: hi tom, i totally agree with you. i really don't see any point in massive c drives i really don't. i've got 5 external hard drives connected to my pc. so as you can imagine booting up actually does take a while but it's not because of the amount stored on my c drive lol. i'm not someone that goes around fixing pc's etc, but i would still consider it common sense to not put stuff on the c drive if only because if ever you have to format the system, at least you won't lose all your material as well. yes you can move stuff off usually before formatting but there are instances where something may stop you from doing so. drive corruption for 1 and lets be honest the more you access a drive the more chance there is of it being corrupted. so it stands to reason that c drive stands a pretty good chance of going first. Sent from my iPad --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. it always just seemed silly to me having a folder called my Documents with a bunch of other folders that have dam all to do with documents. plus again, i like to distinguish things like text games and audio books by having them in their own folders. While I see the logic in having folders for each user, when your the only user on a system it doesn't make sense, besides as I've said before %90 of the problems I've ever! had in windows have been to do with user accounts going wrong at startup, getting corrupted or otherwise causing trouble. Frankly that's why I like sticking stuff where I want to put it, meaning I exactly know where it is, what folders I've created etc. Again, this is another reason why I like xp, it gives me! the max amount of choice on organizing my system, it's ui display and everything else, but choice seems not to be microsoft's current thinking anymore, nor indeed apples with what I've heard of the Iphone's proprietory file system. as for security, well that's what I pay Avg for. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi dark, Don't rely soley on antivirus programmes etc for absolute security. It never works. Personally I don't think it matters. The safest way to store stuff is and will always be externaly. Or on any drive other than c. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 October 2012 23:43 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Tom. it always just seemed silly to me having a folder called my Documents with a bunch of other folders that have dam all to do with documents. plus again, i like to distinguish things like text games and audio books by having them in their own folders. While I see the logic in having folders for each user, when your the only user on a system it doesn't make sense, besides as I've said before %90 of the problems I've ever! had in windows have been to do with user accounts going wrong at startup, getting corrupted or otherwise causing trouble. Frankly that's why I like sticking stuff where I want to put it, meaning I exactly know where it is, what folders I've created etc. Again, this is another reason why I like xp, it gives me! the max amount of choice on organizing my system, it's ui display and everything else, but choice seems not to be microsoft's current thinking anymore, nor indeed apples with what I've heard of the Iphone's proprietory file system. as for security, well that's what I pay Avg for. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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yeah I know its called a reformat. you need to reformat every so often. I think if we went back to where every program had its own configuration we would never have these issues but we wouldn't have the security either. At 11:03 p.m. 21/10/2012 +0100, you wrote: I know, but then it doesn't stop there does it, I mean windows can't even uninstall things properly can it. it leaves all sorts of rubbish in the registry which a programme like c cleaner has to clean out. a lot of things that you need on a windows machine, it's all because of shortcomings of the OS. Crazy really. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 21 October 2012 22:42 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Darren, True enough. Windows is especially bad about drive corruption and that is why Microsoft has to have tools like Disk Defrag to maintain the partition table. If they didn't the partition table where Windows resides would defragment and eventually become corrupted beyond recovery. That is precisely why I don't leave a lot of personal data on my C: drive unless I'm copying it to my laptop for portibility. Even then the data itself is backed up 12 ways to Sunday. :D On 10/21/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: hi tom, i totally agree with you. i really don't see any point in massive c drives i really don't. i've got 5 external hard drives connected to my pc. so as you can imagine booting up actually does take a while but it's not because of the amount stored on my c drive lol. i'm not someone that goes around fixing pc's etc, but i would still consider it common sense to not put stuff on the c drive if only because if ever you have to format the system, at least you won't lose all your material as well. yes you can move stuff off usually before formatting but there are instances where something may stop you from doing so. drive corruption for 1 and lets be honest the more you access a drive the more chance there is of it being corrupted. so it stands to reason that c drive stands a pretty good chance of going first. Sent from my iPad --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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well everyone uses windows tom, everything runs on it. The same would have been true if apple was the dominant system. or even dos. In fact if ms had never gotten the job of making dos with ibm back in 1980 we would still be on cpm or some sort of unix, not linux, unix. At 07:14 p.m. 21/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Darren, Let's not go there. Windows has a lot of problems besides the fact it has a porely designed partition table. I could write the book on registry errors, waisted space do to temperary internet files, the junk Windows leaves behind when removing programs, etc and sadly that won't change most Windows user's minds on the OS. What I find crazy is the fact that more than 80% of computer users use and like Windows even though its probably the most poorrly designed and unstable operating system on the market. The really sad part is very few Windows users realize that the programs they use like registry cleaners, antivirus programs, spyware software, disk clean up utilities, etc all are because of the short comings of the OS itself and its like putting a bandaid on a cut that really needs stitches. On 10/21/12, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I know, but then it doesn't stop there does it, I mean windows can't even uninstall things properly can it. it leaves all sorts of rubbish in the registry which a programme like c cleaner has to clean out. a lot of things that you need on a windows machine, it's all because of shortcomings of the OS. Crazy really. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
I aggree with you tom. I know a person, a local admin that doesn't use antivirus, spyware firewalls or even updates anything because it would be damaged by the updates or software. His view is that its all coman sence, and you just turn everything off when not using it. Though in a perfect world I'd aggree with him I couldn't be bothered doing that. Though seriously he is probably correct. At 07:40 p.m. 21/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Dark, Well, in terms of Windows 7 verses XP the local directory structure has been redesigned and makes more sence. Rather than music, videos, pictures, all going into your My Documents folder all of them are separate in your Home directory. For example, on Windows 7 my home directory is c:\Users\Thomas. Under c:\Users\Thomas is Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos, and so on. Therefore if I click on the Thomas icon in the Start Menu all of my documents, music, and videos are organized logically anyway. I see no need to put my music in c:\Music when I can bring up the Start Menu, cclic on the Music icon, and go directly to c:\Users\Thomas\Music instantly or click on Thomas and then on Music. As far as the issue of choice you can still choose to put your files anywhere you want them if you disable security features like User Account Control, but it isn't the safest thing to do. The entire point of Microsoft restricting your c: drive from general use is to protect it from unauthorized users and from malware. What you see as an issue of choice Microsoft sees as an issue of security. Sometimes choice and ssecurity aren't compatible, and this is a case in point. I might add that putting all of your faith in antivirus software etc is a bad idea. That isn't the only kind of security threat you have to worry about. Several years ago, back in the Win 98 days, I remember hearing about a rash of attacks where people were prowling chat sites, and once they found someone, they would get the other persons IP, login to their PC, and steel their personal data or destroy their data for kicks. The internet is a nasty place and if you think you put software x, y, z on there and are safe think again. There are all kinds of ways for people to hack into your internet connection and whipe your drive before you even know what hit you. The more layers of security you can put in place the less likely you will be a victom of cybercrime. That's the reason for UAC and the other things Microsoft is doing. On 10/21/12, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. it always just seemed silly to me having a folder called my Documents with a bunch of other folders that have dam all to do with documents. plus again, i like to distinguish things like text games and audio books by having them in their own folders. While I see the logic in having folders for each user, when your the only user on a system it doesn't make sense, besides as I've said before %90 of the problems I've ever! had in windows have been to do with user accounts going wrong at startup, getting corrupted or otherwise causing trouble. Frankly that's why I like sticking stuff where I want to put it, meaning I exactly know where it is, what folders I've created etc. Again, this is another reason why I like xp, it gives me! the max amount of choice on organizing my system, it's ui display and everything else, but choice seems not to be microsoft's current thinking anymore, nor indeed apples with what I've heard of the Iphone's proprietory file system. as for security, well that's what I pay Avg for. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
I aggree tom, its why all pcs I have have a split drive. the c drive is small about 120gb its for the os and programs the other drives are bigger and have everything else. At 08:21 p.m. 21/10/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Ibrahim, Well, you will get no argument from me that a lot of the problems with Windows comes down to end users being ignorent of what tools are available for maintaining their system and I blame the manufacturers for not including a default schedule for handling various maintenance tasks. However, I will stick to my point the more stuff you put on the drive the slower it will get. To give you an example there was a Win 7 computer here that I did basic maintenance on which improved system performance but it still booted slow and took forever to load applications. It turned out my wife had 250 GB of pictures and videos on the drive. We got an external drive, moved everything to the external, and deleted everything from the c: drive. The moment we deleted all 250 GB of pictures and home videos Windows 7 ran twice as fast. So I have proof that putting too much stuff on c: is a performance killer as I've seen it firsthand. On 10/21/12, Ibrahim Gucukoglu ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com wrote: Hi Thomas. I regularly maintain and optimise computers for customers and I can assure you that simply isn't the case. Its more down to the ignorance of users in basic computer maintenance teqniques, added to the fact that manufacturers don't seem to want to put basic maintenance software or even set up a maintenance schedule using the tools in Windows on their computers. There are a number of things you can do, including regularly defragmenting and cleaning out the hard drive and registry, optimising the list of services and start-up programs that load with Windows, cleaning out browser cache files and cookies; These are all relatively straight forward and can be performed with little or no effort. I recommend programs that can do most if not all of this for the customers as part of their consultation as well as train said customers in the use of these tools where appropriate. All the best, Ibrahim. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Okay, fair enough darren, though as I said most of my stuff is! now on my E drive anyway. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi dark, Don't rely soley on antivirus programmes etc for absolute security. It never works. Personally I don't think it matters. The safest way to store stuff is and will always be externaly. Or on any drive other than c. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 21 October 2012 23:43 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5. Hi Tom. it always just seemed silly to me having a folder called my Documents with a bunch of other folders that have dam all to do with documents. plus again, i like to distinguish things like text games and audio books by having them in their own folders. While I see the logic in having folders for each user, when your the only user on a system it doesn't make sense, besides as I've said before %90 of the problems I've ever! had in windows have been to do with user accounts going wrong at startup, getting corrupted or otherwise causing trouble. Frankly that's why I like sticking stuff where I want to put it, meaning I exactly know where it is, what folders I've created etc. Again, this is another reason why I like xp, it gives me! the max amount of choice on organizing my system, it's ui display and everything else, but choice seems not to be microsoft's current thinking anymore, nor indeed apples with what I've heard of the Iphone's proprietory file system. as for security, well that's what I pay Avg for. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Tom. Fair enough, at least not having them in a folder who's name refers to documents helps, though given that uac seems to cause problems for installing older software I'll have to turn it off anyway so that's not really as much an issue for me. Of course, the ultimate in security is frequent backups, which is why i do that on a very regular basis, and really there's no better way to keep stuff safe. when my first machine broke in 2008, I'd have been in a right mess without all my backups, indeed I've got stuff on there which I've head for years, such as the 2nd edition dd rules in ms word format, as well as lots! of games and audio. Beware the grue! Dark. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Tom. I have never heard of passport drives which is why I backup on a powered 2 tb external. I do however frequently use thumb drives to transfer small amounts of stuff from my desktop to my laptop and visa versa when I've been using one or the other, or when I want to give something to a friend, however sinse a full backup of my machine would be about 600 gb worth they aren't big enough for a perminant solution, usefull though they still are. beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
hi, tom is right. i have several external drives actually. i never store anything on my c drive. that's purely for the operating system and any installed programmes. nothing more. everything else is shared between multiple drives. Sent from my iPad On 20 Oct 2012, at 00:51, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lindsay, If that is your only method for backing up data by all means do so. These days an external drive is pretty inexpensive and I would seriously consider investing in one if I were you as its always possible you will have to reinstall all your software at some point and anything you have on the PC books, movies, music, games, whatever will get lost if you don't invest in some sort of backup system. On 10/19/12, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi all, I've just bought smugglers 5, but am now worried in case I have to reformat my hard drive and lose it, what should I do, put the installer and the email on cd? I don't have any external backup methods? Lindsay Cowell. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
I do something similar darren, but that was a space concern rather than backing up. programs, documents, favourites etc all stay on my c drive which has about 500 gb of memory, but for space reasons last year I installed another drive with 1tb onto which i've transfered all my audio books and music. This is however more about saving space and not to do with backing up, which I do with a separate external 2 tb drive. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi lindsy. the installer for s5 has no license as far as I know, so as long as you keep the setup file safe you should be fine. Use a cd, use an internet storage service like sendspace, heck, just use a memory stick if you have to. I would however highly recommend getting ane external drive to backup onto, I use mine a lot and when my first desktop broke back in 2008 it was invaluable plus it's occasionally handy when i want to transfer a larger amount of stuff onto my laptop than would fit on my 8 gb memory stick. I do a backup now of all my games, documents, favourites, audio books and music every three weeks or so, which is why i am sure I have everything! For the s5 setup though, it's a relatively small file so whatever you have should be fine, indeed I've stuck it on my memory stick myself sinse I'm going to install it onto my laptop. One thing however, you might actually have already got extended download. This is an option sold with the game where by you just need to enter your mail address to get your download file again. Check just in case. i didn't pay for it myself, sinse I backup, but it is there for those who need it. Beware the Grue!¬ Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Slightly off topic: smugglers 5.
Hi Lindsay, If that is your only method for backing up data by all means do so. These days an external drive is pretty inexpensive and I would seriously consider investing in one if I were you as its always possible you will have to reinstall all your software at some point and anything you have on the PC books, movies, music, games, whatever will get lost if you don't invest in some sort of backup system. On 10/19/12, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi all, I've just bought smugglers 5, but am now worried in case I have to reformat my hard drive and lose it, what should I do, put the installer and the email on cd? I don't have any external backup methods? Lindsay Cowell. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
