Re: Here you have, ;o)
Alan Buxey wrote: > > if I get one more stupid Windoze PC 'Lookout!-express' user sending > viruses my way I'm off this list :-( It's probably a sign of things to come. Gimp wasn't the only one hit, so was my Debian list. Jonathan -- -==- ==-- _ ---==---(_)__ __ __ --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Jonathan Gift- -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=Running Debian GNU/Linux-
Script-Fu crashes others?
Hi, I upgraded to the new Gimp 1.2.1 but I still get Script-Fu crashes, especially on the Puzzle plugin. Gimp itself is fine. Anyone else has this? -- Jonathan Gift
Solved Text Answer
Hi, Thanks again for all the help, but the cleanest and easiest is to use Gimp. I found an option under Filters ->Render->Dynamic Test which brings up a box where you can enter text or import a text file. It then goes in on a transparent background. No mess, no fuss... This is obviously old news to all those placing kernel code samples on their wallpaper background on Themes... -- Jonathan Gift
Segfault on Gimp1.2 Script-Fu?
Hi, I have the Ximian debian potato compiled gimp installed and every so often I get a segmentation fault using various filters. The Puzzle one did it to me several times when rapidly scrolling through a number setting. Is this me or do others get this? Is it Gimp, Script-Fu, a badly written script, or my install is missing something? Thanks for any pointers. -- Jonathan Gift
Thanks help calendar
Hi, Thanks all for the help. I think I'm covered here for now. I've got the assorted options on file and have tried most. -- Jonathan Gift
Re: Gimp Help Browser?
Michael Spunt wrote: > > Gimp, at least 1.1 and 1.2, has an own help browser when you build the Gimp > with GtkXmHTML support. It's lightweight and looks like the Gnome help > browser. That the libgtkxhmtl file? When I loaded Gimp 1.04 it wasn't requested and selecting browser gets nothing... -- Jonathan Gift
Re: How do calendar?- Thanks all!
Wandered Inn wrote: > It appears that each line of text is a separate layer which might make > it easier to line things up. The formatting was a bit off, but it worked. Thanks for the info and thanks to the group for the numerous responses. I'm still trying the perl script... -- Jonathan Gift
Re: How do calendar?
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > > (1) the "fax" command will convert text into a faxible TIFF, so > > (2) create call-2001.txt as above. > I don't have fax program loaded. Can check dselect... Latex neither. Nothing simpler, um? straight text with a transparent bg is the objective... -- Jonathan Gift
Re: How do calendar?
Wandered Inn wrote: > > I'm not sure I understand, but you could redirect the output of the cal > command to a file, then use the ascii to image layer plugin to read in > the file you created. If you can tell me how to lay in text that would do it. With background transparent? This the plugin? Default? Thanks. -- Jonathan Gift
Gimp Help Browser?
Hi, Is there a default browser Gimp 1.04 or the new 1.2 uses? Like Netscape or the Gnome Help browser? Thanks. -- Jonathan Gift
How do calendar?
Hi, With the cal 2001 command I can get the year's calendar displayed on a terminal or shot to a file. Q: How can I use that as background, as in paste? Any ideas. Thanks. -- Jonathan Gift
Re: Gimp Build
Andrew Kieschnick wrote: > > Installing Ximian doesn't involve upgrading perl. If you want to see what > it does upgrade, look at their Packages.gz. Its basically Gtk+, the Gnome > libs, and some Gnome apps. Ximian doesn't, compiling does. I thought we were talking about that. It's why I didn't compile but got the Ximian package. It required gimp and a few new files. That was it. > > You should be able to compile Gimp 1.2 on Potato by getting Gtk+ 1.2.8 I have it. > from someplace - the Ximian libgtk1.2 and libglib1.2 packages should > install without requiring anything else from Ximian. Everything else > needed for building Gimp 1.2 is available in Potato. Then why did I get a notice about having to upgade my perl library and if you look at the gimp perl deb source, it does indeed require woody's version of perl and not potato. I don't get it, becaue if that was the case, how come Ximian got it up and running on potato? Jonathan
Re: Gimp Build
Andrew Kieschnick wrote: > > > Once you've installed the Ximian Gnome packages, you should be able to > build Gimp 1.2 (assuming you install the Ximian -dev packages) on potato. Um, interesting. But I haven't installed Ximian and I don't intend to. If it was just Perl, it's one thing. I have a nasty feeling that once I upgraded perl, it would be something else. If someone has successfully done it against potato then I'd love to here. Until then, I have it up and running. Jonathan
Re: Gimp Build
Dominic Knight wrote: > > Did you sink or swim ? Glup. Ok, ok. The ./configurew ent ok, except it coughed up it was missing Perl stuff. I the put in the perl gimp lib and it complianed I had the wrong version of perl. I that point I banged my head on the wall a couple times and noticed I was getting the same satisfaction there as I was building Gimp. So I went and dl it from Ximian. Compiled against potato, woody, and sid (sounds like a law firm for Walt Disney), it works great. I'd still like to compile it, but not at the price of multiple librray upgrades and breaking my system. If you know a way, please share. If not, Ximian is thataway. Jonathan
Re: Q: Gradient Transparent -Color?
Hi Teri, Nope, no one got back to me and the other post on changing colors got 76 replies (er, roughly). I think the group's sending me a RTFM message especially when your advice is actually to look at the tools option... Thanks, BTW, it's exactly what I wanted. Ok, so I'm a moron. That doesn't mean when you prick us, we do not bleed... Long day. You know you're weird when you just realized you've spent the evening blowing up GKrellM LED icons 400% to change the default shading gradient from yellow to green so that it matches the ppp dial up button colors you did yesterday. Hey, doesn't the new Prez take over tomorrow? Well, say high from Paris. Jonathan
Q: Gradient Transparent -Color?
Hi, I want to darken parts of a pic so up to now I've layered in a black to color gradient. But better would be to leave parts transparent and so was wondering if I lay down, and how, a gradient that goes from transparent to a color. In other words, a gradualy appearing color? Thanks. Jonathan
What's with .xvpics dir? -Solved!!!
Stephan Henningsen wrote: > > If you don't like the directories, delete them and don't > ask your programs create them again. Easy to get rid of. I like a clean system. Don't need them. But thanks for the feedback. It's appreciated. I was just wondering. Jonathan
Re: What's with .xvpics dir?
Wandered Inn wrote: > > > > > > I think they know... AHHH! N! > > > > Damn. Got him. You drop the foil a minute and it's all over. The voices > > inside my head want to let you know you'll be missed. I hope it's over > > with quickly. I hope they don't play the Wayne Newton records. Ask for > > something quick. I know, I remmeber Telly Savalas put out a record while > > doing Kojak. That should do it. Telly Savalas singing a song from > > "Bread". > > Sorry, bad call, it was just heartburn... That's it, bad call??? I had to go in the basement and dig out the anti-polarizing antenna. I thought an attack imminent. Of course, of course, they got you, didn't they? This is one of them pretending to be you pretending to be ok. Ah, and to think you almost had me there. NO WAY Jonathan
Re: What's with .xvpics dir?
Wandered Inn wrote: > > > > > > Shame, for one brief moment I thought it was a coded hidden mesage from > > > > > > the programmers. You know, like "Paul is dead"... > > > > > > > > > > You have to view them backwards > > > > > > > > At half the usual compression? > > > > > > So you've heard it too? > > > > Shh. Not so loud. I have to adjust my foil skullcap to keep the > > government eavesdropping in on all this stuff. If they know that we know > > they know we know, we know what they will do. You know? > > I think they know... AHHH! N! Damn. Got him. You drop the foil a minute and it's all over. The voices inside my head want to let you know you'll be missed. I hope it's over with quickly. I hope they don't play the Wayne Newton records. Ask for something quick. I know, I remmeber Telly Savalas put out a record while doing Kojak. That should do it. Telly Savalas singing a song from "Bread". Jonathan
Re: What's with .xvpics dir?
Wandered Inn wrote: > > > > > > > > Shame, for one brief moment I thought it was a coded hidden mesage from > > > > the programmers. You know, like "Paul is dead"... > > > > > > You have to view them backwards > > > > At half the usual compression? > > So you've heard it too? Shh. Not so loud. I have to adjust my foil skullcap to keep the government eavesdropping in on all this stuff. If they know that we know they know we know, we know what they will do. You know? Jonathan
Re: What's with .xvpics dir?
Wandered Inn wrote: > > > > Does it pick where it saves these? So far I've worked in two directories > > and found them in both. They breed like crazy. No way of setting a > > directory or restricting it to one? > > This would be nice, to keep these puppies in, say .gimp* Too obvious. I like finding them in ~/tmp and /blackbox. When I'm bored I can get my twin barrel shotgun out and got looking for them. Nasty critters when cornered. Jonathan
Re: What's with .xvpics dir?
Stephan Henningsen wrote: > a standard developed by the XV-team. I like GIMP being able > to make use of it. It's simple small images (in some > obscure format =) saved in a hidden directory called .xvpics. > Thanks. Does it pick where it saves these? So far I've worked in two directories and found them in both. They breed like crazy. No way of setting a directory or restricting it to one? Jonathan
Re: What's with .xvpics dir?
Wandered Inn wrote: > > > > Shame, for one brief moment I thought it was a coded hidden mesage from > > the programmers. You know, like "Paul is dead"... > > You have to view them backwards At half the usual compression? Jonathan
Re: What's with .xvpics dir?
Thomas Gritsch wrote: > Jonathan Gift wrote: > > Hi, With the new gimp1.2 I just noticed .xvpics directories popping up > > like mushrooms. This something to do with preview settings? > As far as I know .xvpics directories are used to store previews. Ah, ha! I thought so. Is there a generic way to turn it off, aside from when you save a pic? Shame, for one brief moment I thought it was a coded hidden mesage from the programmers. You know, like "Paul is dead"... Jonathan
What's with .xvpics dir?
Hi, With the new gimp1.2 I just noticed .xvpics directories popping up like mushrooms. This something to do with preview settings? Or? How do I turn this off and is this a good thing? Thanks. Jonathan
Re: Multiple gimp installs?
William D. Tallman wrote: > I get the idea that it is possible to have more than one version of the gimp > installed at the same time. If one has .gimp, .gimp-1.1, and .gimp-1.2 in I'm no expert, but I would imagine you'd run very quickly into library conflicts with assorted versions requiring certain libraries and those specific versions not that compatible... > Like Gimp 1.2 wants libgtk 1.2.8. Now Gimp 1.04 might run with it, but what the further into te future you get the more trouble. Add to that compiling and certain versions want perl X and thigs get very murky. Of course, the bright side is you get to know your system really well. Look on it like having several wives in different cities spread out across the country. Everything's ok until they attend the same spa. You may escape alive. Then again, you may not. Jonathan
Anyway to change ~/.gimp-1.2 name?
Hi, I posted this earlier but part of a longer message. I have the new Helix compiled Gimp 1.2 and the installtion program offers me only the .gimp-1.2 home directory. I've tried changing the path in preferences and no go. So, is this particular to this build, or all the new Gimp 1.2? Gimp 1.04 defaulted to .gimp and I'd like that if I can hack it. None of the other apps does it and it sort of stands out... Thanks. Jonathan
Re: Got a working Gimp 1.2-Thanks & Q
Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > > Gimp uses dirs with version so you can mix installs or it does not > crash after a big update (some config items are not compatible). After > getting "nice" cores with other apps, I think Gimp way is good, you > can always move one item at a time, or edit by hand to match your old > config (I did). I can see the logic of it, but my only experience of gimp is 1.04 which did not do this. So the question was/is, is this a new feature of particular to this build? I tried changing the preferences directories to .gimp from .gimp-1.2 but it still created new directory. Any other way of getting a plain .gim back? Thanks. Jonathan
Got a working Gimp 1.2-Thanks & Q
Hi, The Xemian gimp 1.2 seems to have done the trick. It does go in as ~/.gimp-1.2. Is this particular to the new gimp or this build? Any way to get an old generic .gimp (I moved my earlier one so as to avoid just this). Thanks. Jonathan
Graphic Cards-Thanks!
Hi, Thanks to all those who helped out here. Basically the advice is what I have already assembled and it seems that Gimp's needs are no different than Linux in general. Jonathan
Re: Q: Recommended graphics cards?
Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > > ATI are nice too, I had one, good 2D, and new models are supported cos > ATI pays coders, and the code goes into XFree (I have been thinking > about getting one again, ATI cares, and this way support will last > longer). Matrox is good too (using one now) and they follow the same > strategy, get somebody to do open source drivers, so people see you > (the company) like the system (XFree and source), which does not mean > sell less. BTW, nVidia drivers are company provided (if you want 3D, I > believe, for 2D you can use XFree86... but should check that). I have an ATI now but heard not so hot things about the 128. The Matrox G400 I heard good things. nVidia seems to get people upset because of their attitude . Thanks. Jonathan
Q: Recommended graphics cards?
Hi, I'm going to be upgrading soon and have been looking athe the assorted Linuc compatible cards. Almost all the FAQ/Mag article one's are 3D monsters. What would one consider with the Gimp, and not games, in mind? What card and what amount of ram? Any thoughts appreciated. Thanks. Jonathan
Re: Smoothing gradient Q...
Dominic Knight wrote: I was looking for the native format and this was nicely explained. Thanks. Jonathan
Re: Making Transparent from Non-Transparent
VosSedai wrote: > Same problem with the upgrade thing running 1.17 also on potato have checked > _extensively_ into upgrading but it is a definate no-go :/ Major breakage on > a lot of things with the upgrade to woody. Ive decided to sit tight till > some major problems with other proggies I run are fixed. I'm about to go into that. You sure about the breaking. I've heard from one guy who has it up and running fine and as some great advice, but it looks like his system is a mixed Woody/Sid anyway. I just posted the list of what I think will be required. I'm just worried that it will break existing GTK apps, the libgtk upgrade... Jonathan
Gimp Build
Hi, Ok, I'm making the plunge. Could you check that the following is ok? Download: apt-get source gimp1.2 apt-get source gimp-data-extras (1:1.2.0-1) apt-get libgtk1.2 (new 1.2.8) apt-get libgtk1.2-dev Installed already: libgtk1.2-dev gdk-imlib-dev Install: libjpeg62-dev libmpeg-dev aalib1-dev libpng2-dev libtiff3g-dev 1. That do it? 2. Is there a patch next time to patch 1.04 source? 3. No I need a new non-free package or can I use that for 1.04? Thanks! Jonathan
Re: rpm's?
Javier Hernandez wrote: > > Alien is an appropriate name... :-) One can't complain that people here have no sense of humor... > I have arrived to an dead end when trying to compile gimp-1.2.0 > under my Openlinux 2.3. > The rpm package I got was packaged with rpm-4.0.x (I think it is > part of Red Hat distribution) and I can not open it. > :-( > > I will have to look for another RPM package of gimp-1.2.0, if you > know of any place where to find them I will appreciate if you > email me. Um, I now know of some deb's, in source. You can convert them using any rpm. No demands there. Haven't looked for rpm's. Jonathan
Re: Smoothing gradient Q...
syngin wrote: > > are you starting the gradient about an inch in from the edge of the page by chance? >if so, try starting the gradient on the edge of the layer (or outside the layer). > this might be from the all-to-obvious department, but who knows? Nope, on the edge and in about 2 inches on my 17 inch monitor. But I think the problem involves my saving it to jpg. That's when I see the problem. In the original it's not there. So, if that is it, is there any way around it? I tried putting a blur on it, etc, nothing. Thanks for the feedback. Jonathan
Re: rpm's?
Andrew Kieschnick wrote: > > Note that gimp 1.2 says it needs gtk 1.2.8, but the package only depends > on >= 1.2.0 for some reason. I don't know if it will work with < > 1.2.8. 1.2.8 is available from Helix though. Potato has GTK 1.2.7... > > Let me know if you want the packages I built, and I'll put them up > someplace. I may put them up anyways, but I'm not sure how many people > will want them, since you need to have Helix Gnome installed. I'll keep your info on file. First I need to find out what files I need to compile against potato and then maybe give that a try. In other words, gimp 1.2 source, extras 1.2 source, and now apparently the gtk 1.2.8 package? Is everything else on potato that I would need? Or do I need to dl the perl 1.3 package, etc... Thanks. Jonathan
Re: Smoothing gradient Q- Solved!
Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote: > > Uumm, eeeh... GIF, JPG and many other formats are like working in 16 I got an answer on this, thanks. > > > What is the best file type to use? > > For what task? Desktop bg? Web? Printing? Each job has a tool (or more > than one, but please do not hammer nails with the polisher machine). I had not added, as I should have, to work and store the original in so as to preserve layers, etc. Obviously once finished it has many uses and flavors. Thanks, Jonathan
Re: Smoothing gradient Q...
Rebecca J. Walter wrote: > save the image and email it to me and i will takea peek later and tell > you how it looks. Ok. thanks. I had a thought though. I remmeber the original didn't have that. Could it be the format I'm saving in, namely jpg? After all, the problem appears after I've saved it and put it up for background? What is the best file type to use? And is there a file type that can keep work in progress? ie Five layers open for editing later? I'll post this and send another straight to you with the pic. Thanks again. Jonathan "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Re: Making Transparent from Non-Transparent
Seth Burgess wrote: > > Try out my plug-in, colortoalpha. Its found under > Filters/Colors/Color To Alpha... Don't have it, at least on 1.04 which came with potato and I'm trying to get my hand on something more recent... Have you an url for it? BTW, all the plugins I've seen come in source? You have to compile them all? Any special libraries involved? Thanks, Jonathan
Re: Making Transparent from Non-Transparent
COUTIER Eric wrote: > I think it's the latests versions. Why don't you migrate to gimp-1.2 ? Love to. But I can't grab the compiled deb binaries on the Debian site because they're compiled against sid and that means upgrading a lot of libraries on my potato system and breaking stuff. The other choice, I guess, is finding someone who has compiled it against potato, but I placed a post in Debian and no takers. last choice is compiling it myself... I don't know if it will work with potato's version of the GTK dev libraries and so further upgrading is in store.. Any suggestions welcome. I'd love to have it... BTW I do have a late 1.17 or somthing butw hen it loads it insists on nstalling, not in the customary .gimp directory, but .gimp-1.117 etc. directory. Clearly to show it's not done. ANY way to have it default to .gimp (I tried changing the paths in preferences and no go...). Thanks, Jonathan "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Re: Smoothing gradient Q...
Jon Winters wrote: > > Sounds like your display is not set to 24 or 36 bit color. You'll > always see banding, even tho it may not really be in the image, if > you're running less than 24bit color. > Banding, eh? I'm on 24 bit. Always have been and just ran a check, still am... Even hough I have an 8MB card, I can't see to get 32bit whith the card's VGA server. I notice the banding doesn't take place if I use the gradient red pipe plugin. It renders it and all gradients flawless. Just the standard... Any other thing you can think of s appreciated. It sort of ruins what I'm doing and so causes massive depression, loss of appetite, etc. Thanks for the feedback. Jonathan "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Making Transparent from Non-Transparent
Hi, Second big question is I have a lot of old logos Istored on a black background. Is there a way of turning the black transparent so that I can drop the logos on to a new background? I've looked in my small book but it doesn't cut. Another PS would be what are the best books? The Gimp Manual and Grokking The Gimp? Thanks, Jonathan "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Smoothing gradient Q...
Hi, I'm doing a left to right gradient, dark blue to black so that a narrow 2 inch bank of blue apperas before fading into black. the problme is that the band has uneven bars of various hue there. I tried Blur to smooth it out, and adding another deeper colored layer, etc. No go. How can I smooth this out? Thanks. Jonathan "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Re: Creating smoke?
Jon Winters wrote: > > > Try the Plazma plugin on a blank layer, desaturate it and adjust the > transparency. Erase the areas where you don't want smoke. Great, thanks for the feedback. Will do so now... Jonathan "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Creating smoke?
Hi, Now I'm new to this list and so don't know if this is appropriate... I'd like to create some swirling smoke as from someone smoking and have tried swirl, etc on a grey gradient but doesn't quite cut it. Hs this been done and how? I'm ure it has, but the how is the question. Sort of like the supernova, but for smoke? Much thanks. Jonathan
Re: rpm's?
Christopher S. Swingley wrote: > > # apt-get update > # apt-get install gimp1.2 gimp1.2-perl > > These packages worked great for me, but I've been tracking unstable > fairly closely for years now, so if you're still using potato, YMMV. > I looked on the main debian site and couldn't find gimp 1.2. You have a site in mind that has it? I looked in potato and woody. Should I have looked in sid? Thanks, Jonathan
Re: rpm's?
Javier Hernandez wrote: > > I think there are some tools for converting a RPM package to > Debian deb's. > I have done the inverse process with a tool but I can not > remember now what's the name of it. > It's called "Alien" but I don't want to use it here. Looking for deb natives. I also have to watch what they're compiled against... But it's a good suggestion otherwise. Jonathan "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Re: Bed
robert lund wrote: > Oh really. Well its something here. Im thorloy board. just sending mail from > my bordom. oh and a bord noard board bo...zz Well, there was a brief spurt of activity this morning when some 4 messages flew across the screen and since then it's been the big, er, sleep. It's actually sort of a nice quiet place. Like a small park in the middle of a busy metropolitan area. Lot's of leafy trees. A quiet breeze. The occasional boiking gif. > Jonathan
Re: rpm's?
Javier Hernandez wrote: > I missed the message. > Did you find the gimp's RPMs ? Did anyone post any deb's of Gimp 1.2? And if so, compiled against the current potato or woody? Thanks, Jonathan -- "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Bed
Open Letter to Gimp-Users Okay all, I know you're out there now. I'm off to bed because it's close to 11PM here and it's been 15hrs uptime on the Linux box. So, I'm expecting a full mailbox in the morning with in depth discussions on textures versus gradients, insights into writing scripts, the lot. Ever in hope. Jonathan -- "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Re: Gimp Lists?
George Crary wrote: > > > >I could use help on animating boinking gifs, actually. > > > > Isn't that illegal in Canada - or was it Kansas? It's illegal in Kansas. I think it's encouraged in Canada. Ask the border patrol guards next time you cross over about it. I'm sure you'll get an enthusiastic response. They're know for having a great sense of humor. Jonathan -- "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Re: Gimp Lists?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Actually, everyone knows everything now, for there's no further need for > discussion. Ah, the almighty God approach to list management. Mount Olympus style, eh? > > I am currently designing a sticker to customize keyboards. It says "ANY". > Stickers are $3 USD each, the instruction and installation manual can be > purchased for $10 extra, plus applicable taxes, of course. Really? "Any"? Um. > > I could use help on animating boinking gifs, actually. And here I thought this was a quiet list. I hesitate to ask to what use one puts boinking gifs... Jonathan -- "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Re: Gimp Lists?
Carol Spears wrote: > Ask them a question. Asking them how to draw a straight line is always > fun. Wow, I've been on some 10 hrs now and this my second mesage from the wilderness. And in answer to my cry for recognition. I figured everyone was very hush hush, or it was the Zen approach to using Gimp. As for your question, ah, yes, I can see the fun that could be had. How about "How do I open an image?" or "What is a jpg?", and the all time favorite, "how to you start the program?" Or another, "why won't the Gimp work from the command prompt when I boot up?" Of course, the best is to troll the archives and find the most often asked question and pop it up once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load Netscape?" You can just hear the teeth grinding on that one. Though everyone stays very polite with only the occasional reference to RTFM. And here I was figuring to have an empty list to yodel in. Is there any activity hee? Even the Gimp newsgroup has some activity... Jonathan -- "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Gimp Lists?
Hi, The Gimp web page recommended this list but so far I see no activity at all. Are there other lists that I should know of? Thanks, Jonathan -- "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"
Test
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