[hugin-ptx] Re: tiff package error

2015-11-01 Thread 'Brandon' via hugin and other free panoramic software
Would renaming them to have the names you listed do the trick?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Lost fast panorama preview under Microsoft

2015-10-31 Thread 'Brandon' via hugin and other free panoramic software
I did not download and test the images with the pto. Just looking at the 
pto, it looks like there are no control points in it yet. In what way is it 
broken? I do note that most of the images have different yaw settings. Did 
you move them around, apply a preset to them or did hugin do that? If so at 
what point did hugin do it?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: tiff package error

2015-10-30 Thread 'Brandon' via hugin and other free panoramic software
Took a few tries on different nights, but I have finally gotten everything 
compiled or put in the correct place*I think* Now I am compiling panotools 
and have stumbled again.

When I go to work with libpano-hg it does not find the tiff paths 
correctly.(probably my problem, but the tiff stuff did compile with no 
errors.) What should the correct entry for TIFF_LIBRARIES_RELEASE and 
TIFF_LIBRARY_RELEASE look like? I took a guess as you can see below. When I 
go to compile about half fail with errors talking about libtiff the kinds 
of errors, makes me think I have done this part wrong.


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[hugin-ptx] Re: tiff package error

2015-10-18 Thread 'Brandon' via hugin and other free panoramic software
Correct. That is how I did it. I do not know what I did differently this 
morning. it still puts it in the wrong place, but it made a lot more files 
this time and now I can progress to the next step.(once I copied the files 
to the correct place.)

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[hugin-ptx] Re: tiff package error

2015-10-16 Thread 'Brandon' via hugin and other free panoramic software


On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 9:14:34 AM UTC-7, T. Modes wrote:
>
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 14. Oktober 2015 10:19:54 UTC+2 schrieb Brandon:
>>
>> I am also following the instructions at 
>> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Windows_with_SDK
>>
>
> These are completely outdated. See 
> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_SDK_%28MSVC_2013%29 for current 
> instructions.
>
>
That answers a few questions. New problem

CMake Error at C:/Program Files 
(x86)/CMake/share/cmake-3.4/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:148 
(message):
Could NOT find ZLIB (missing: ZLIB_LIBRARY ZLIB_INCLUDE_DIR)
Call Stack (most recent call first):
C:/Program Files 
(x86)/CMake/share/cmake-3.4/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:388 
(_FPHSA_FAILURE_MESSAGE)
C:/Program Files (x86)/CMake/share/cmake-3.4/Modules/FindZLIB.cmake:124 
(FIND_PACKAGE_HANDLE_STANDARD_ARGS)
CMakeLists.txt:24 (find_package)



When I build the install version of zlib-1.2.8 it puts the results in my 
project folder instead of below huginSDK. (I have edited the line in Cmake 
as the instructions say. To solve that problem I have copied the continence 
to huginSDK/zlib/ Figuring that would solve the worlds problems. Either way 
when I try to run *libpng 1.6.15 *through Cmake I get the above errors. I 
will try again another day, but currently I am stumped.

Same computer info as above. So far trying to building everything at 64 bit.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: tiff package error

2015-10-14 Thread 'Brandon' via hugin and other free panoramic software
I am also following the instructions at 
http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Windows_with_SDK

I have the exact same error showing up. I have downloaded and built 
tiff-4.0.6, but I have no idea where to put it so that it solves the error. 
Did I get the correct tool. If so which file that it makes do I want to put 
where?

I am on windows 7, huginbase is at C:/code/huginbase/

I currently have tiff-4.0.6 and its full directory set at 
C:/code/huginbase/tiff-4.0.6/

I have high graded several files that it compiled that looked promising and 
moved them to other folders closer to hugin base, but have not yet found 
the right file to put in the right spot.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Ev numbers mean what/backwards on preview?

2014-12-04 Thread Brandon


On Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:02:07 AM UTC-8, T. Modes wrote:

 Smaller numbers mean longer exposure time and/or brighter aperture 
 (smaller f-stop) and therefore more light - brighter images (of the same 
 scene).
 Bigger number - shorter exposure time and/or closed aperture (bigger 
 f-stop) - darker images.


That makes sense as well. That is the way it works on the fast preview. On 
the image tab though if I increase the EV number the image gets brighter 
instead of darker. I wonder why? 

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[hugin-ptx] Ev numbers mean what/backwards on preview?

2014-12-03 Thread Brandon
This may be an overly basic question, but what exactly do the EV numbers 
equal? Looking at the image tab they appear to match a mix of shutter speed 
and aperture and likely ISO, though I have not tested it to much.

Bigger numbers let more light in and smaller numbers let less light in. 
That is simple and makes sense to me.

That theory gets shot up when looking at the fast preview and changing the 
EV there. Bigger numbers make the final pano darker and smaller ones are 
brighter. Why does the EV scale go backwards depending on where you are 
looking? This makes things very confusing when telling someone to brighten 
something by one EV number and no one can remember which way is brighter as 
it all depends on what a person is adjusting.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Ev numbers mean what/backwards on preview?

2014-12-03 Thread Brandon
That is a great read, thanks for the link. I am not sure it answers my 
second question though. Why is the fast preview EV number backwards from 
the EV on the images tab when you try and change it?

On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 12:46:01 AM UTC-8, Brandon wrote:

 This may be an overly basic question, but what exactly do the EV numbers 
 equal? Looking at the image tab they appear to match a mix of shutter speed 
 and aperture and likely ISO, though I have not tested it to much.

 Bigger numbers let more light in and smaller numbers let less light in. 
 That is simple and makes sense to me.

 That theory gets shot up when looking at the fast preview and changing the 
 EV there. Bigger numbers make the final pano darker and smaller ones are 
 brighter. Why does the EV scale go backwards depending on where you are 
 looking? This makes things very confusing when telling someone to brighten 
 something by one EV number and no one can remember which way is brighter as 
 it all depends on what a person is adjusting.


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Re: [hugin-ptx] How to set stacks from the command line?

2014-11-30 Thread Brandon

On Sunday, November 30, 2014 4:01:55 AM UTC-8, T. Modes wrote:

 Or much easier to do this on the images tab. The context menu have options 
 to modify stacks.
 And when display group by stack you can simply drag and drop the images 
 to the corresponding stacks. 
 But that's to obviously?


Hmm I did not know about the drag and drop before. That is actually kind of 
fun.

 It still has the problem of linking all of the images positions, I then 
need to set custom parameters for optimizing and then go to the optimizer 
tab and unlink them all. Then go back to the images tab and re-optimize. If 
I forget to unlink one or more and stitch it, I generally will end up with 
a part that looks like the camera was shook during a long exposure(There is 
often a small amount of wiggle between my stacked shots)  

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Re: [hugin-ptx] How to set stacks from the command line?

2014-11-30 Thread Brandon


On Sunday, November 30, 2014 2:56:04 PM UTC-8, Tduell wrote:

 Hello Brandon, 

 

 I see that Thomas has described how to do all this in the photos tab. 
 For some reason I had concluded that you wanted to do all this via command 
   
 line, maybe to be able to script it. 
 I was on the wrong track, sorry. 


You were correct I have an autoit script that I am working with that I was 
hoping to do it all from the command line with. I am hoping to drag and 
drop a pto file onto my script and it stacks things up that over lap too 
much. 

Thanks to your help, I should be able to do it in the next day or two. I 
know what needs to be done and will I just code my script to open up the 
pto file as text and make the changes as needed.

Thomas thanks for your tips as well. I had no idea that hugin did so many 
different things depending on how the images were grouped. That is good to 
know for when I need to fine tune what my script gives me back. I can get 
hugin to crash if I try some really advanced stuff with some of those 
groupings and it appears to be limited in some ways that the command line 
is not. For example group 9 images to use the same mask, and subgroup it 
into three groups of three images that have linked y,p,r. Is that something 
that can be done in the GUI? From the command line it is easy enough, now 
that I know which var is the mask stack.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] How to set stacks from the command line?

2014-11-29 Thread Brandon
Keep in mind that I have not found it in the documentation and am just 
guessing by trial and error as I write this. If anyone has better thoughts, 
please speak up.

I load 3 images into a file my third image:
On Load
i w5184 h3456 f0 v=0 Ra=0 Rb=0 Rc=0 Rd=0 Re=0 Eev1.52160036448132 Er1 Eb1 
r270 p0 y0 TrX0 TrY0 TrZ0 j0 a=0 b=0 c=0 d=0 e=0 g=0 t=0 Va=0 Vb=0 Vc=0 Vd=0 
Vx=0 Vy=0  Vm5 nW:\zoober\source\weekend B\bridge\IMG_5303.JPG
I set control points and optimize for starting at anchor.
i w5184 h3456 f0 v=0 Ra=0 Rb=0 Rc=0 Rd=0 Re=0 Eev1.52160036448132 Er1 Eb1 r-
79.5612487857035 p7.99448156318547 y109.37396929857 TrX0 TrY0 TrZ0 j0 a=0 b=
0 c=0 d=0 e=0 g=0 t=0 Va=0 Vb=0 Vc=0 Vd=0 Vx=0 Vy=0  Vm5 
nW:\zoober\source\weekend 
B\bridge\IMG_5303.JPG
I optimize all.
i w5184 h3456 f0 v=0 Ra=0 Rb=0 Rc=0 Rd=0 Re=0 Eev1.52160036448132 Er1 Eb1 r-
91.0853510851596 p0.839286712216139 y115.117872304818 TrX0 TrY0 TrZ0 j0 a=0 
b=0 c=0 d=0 e=0 g=0 t=0 Va=0 Vb=0 Vc=0 Vd=0 Vx=0 Vy=0  Vm5 
nW:\zoober\source\weekend 
B\bridge\IMG_5303.JPG

Now looking at the first image.
Loaded
i w5184 h3456 f0 v105 Ra0 Rb0 Rc0 Rd0 Re0 Eev1.52160036448132 Er1 Eb1 r270 
p0 y0 TrX0 TrY0 TrZ0 j0 a0 b0 c0 d0 e0 g0 t0 Va1 Vb0 Vc0 Vd0 Vx0 Vy0  Vm5 
nW:\zoober\source\weekend 
B\bridge\IMG_5301.JPG
optimized position, no change
i w5184 h3456 f0 v105 Ra0 Rb0 Rc0 Rd0 Re0 Eev1.52160036448132 Er1 Eb1 r270 
p0 y0 TrX0 TrY0 TrZ0 j0 a0 b0 c0 d0 e0 g0 t0 Va1 Vb0 Vc0 Vd0 Vx0 Vy0  Vm5 
nW:\zoober\source\weekend 
B\bridge\IMG_5301.JPG
optimized all
i w5184 h3456 f0 v112.42242938554 Ra0 Rb0 Rc0 Rd0 Re0 Eev1.52160036448132 
Er1 Eb1 r270 p0 y0 TrX0 TrY0 TrZ0 j0 a0.0234907215216856 b-
0.0197428064061075 c-0.375993809538199 d-607.606164547881 e8.5360734315 
g0 t0 Va1 Vb0 Vc0 Vd0 Vx0 Vy0  Vm5 nW:\zoober\source\weekend 
B\bridge\IMG_5301.JPG

Looking around hugin I know what most of those do. I have not seen j or Vm5 
before in hugin. I am guessing that Vm5 has something to do with 
Vignetting, but I could be wrong. Just looking around I have no idea what j 
does, from looking at my pto files in the past I have a good idea that it 
has something to do with stacks, beyond that I do not know.

Just for the heck of it I changed both anchors to the third image(2 as it 
is zero based)

Near as I can tell it added k2 (That is the exposure anchor,I tested it) 
to the output line and changed which variables should be optimized in the v 
lines. 


Back on the main topic I started changing the j value on the third image in 
a text editor.

j1 does nothing

 

  jany# does nothing


j=1 stacks my third image to my second image.


Any thoughts on why some vars use an = and some do not?

p0 y0 TrX0 TrY0 TrZ0 j0 all equal null?


To my eye it appears that anyvar0 is the same as null. To test it I have 
tried deleting most of them from an image and hugin opens it just fine. If 
I save it and open with text editor again they are back.


I copy and pasted my 2nd and 3rd i lines enough times to make 10 images. I 
then played with those more extensively. I thought that I was having some 
problems in the past figuring out the target. Just editing the text file I 
get it right every time. Just set the image number that I want to link to 
and it works. No mater how the other images are linked.  If I remember 
right and was correct in what I was seeing that is not how pto_lensstack 
works. I was having a very hard time figuring out the correct targets for 
it.

Editing the pto file in a text editor, I can even link to an image that is 
linked to another image. When I open hugin, hugin is able to figure it out 
that all three are linked together. Then if I save it and open as text, it 
will have saved everything with the correct links instead of the chain of 
links that I set.

j does appear to be what I want. If I link j the masks work on each image, 
but each is left in their own position and can be optimized. If I put in 
the wrong number for j anything bigger than the current image and try to 
open with hugin, hugin crashes.


On Saturday, November 29, 2014 4:02:13 PM UTC-8, Tduell wrote:

 Hello Brandon, 

 [snip] 
 Cheers, 
 -- 
 Regards, 
 Terry Duell


A big thanks Terry. Mostly motivation to get me to do the work. I had not 
changed the pto  file in a text editor before that is actually a lot of 
fun. I think we have solved Question 2 and Question 3. Anyone have thoughts 
on Question 1? How does a person normally go about changing the j var from 
the command line?

 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] How to set stacks from the command line?

2014-11-29 Thread Brandon


On Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:22:21 PM UTC-8, Tduell wrote:


 Perhaps I've missed something in the subsequent discussion, but isn't that 
   
 pto_lenstack --new-stack i1, i2, ix?. 


I would think so, but no. With out running pto_lenstack again(it has been a 
week or two since I last tried it) I remember it linking the yaw, pitch, 
and role as well as the j var, which is what got me pointed in that 
direction. 

If we can figure that out I still have one heck of a time figuring out 
where to set the target. Reading the documentation again I think I figured 
out my problem there. pto_lenstack does not use which image to link to, but 
which stack to link with. With a file that has 60 pictures and the stacks 
can be different numbers, it is hard to keep track of which image is in 
which stack. I am sure there is a work around, I am just wondering if there 
is a clean one?

Now that j appears to do what I hopped it would do, I am starting to think 
it would be easiest to have my script open the pto file and change it 
directly without bothering with the command line. 

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[hugin-ptx] How to set stacks from the command line?

2014-11-28 Thread Brandon
What is the correct way to set stacks from the command line? I have a 
script that reads a pto file looks at the overlap and if any images 
overlaps too much it tries to stack them.(it makes it easier for me to set 
masks, if they are stacked, but there can be some movement between them so 
I wish to have hugin arrange each one.)

I have been trying to use
pto_lensstack --change-stack i1=0 input.pto 

It does work in that it changes the stack of an image, but I have yet to 
figure out how to tell it which stack it is going to. The first time I call 
it I can generally get right. After the first call I often get the target 
stack wrong as the target seems to change as I set stacks.

Question 2 is there a way to set the stacks, without linking the position 
variables? I could do the above way then unlink them, but that seems a 
waste as I would then need to re optimize image positions.


Question 3, what is j mean on the i lines of a pto file?
i w3456 h5184 f10 v=0 Ra=0 Rb=0 Rc=0 Rd=0 Re=0 Eev13.580494060253 Er1 Eb1 r0
.795541422974953 p9.80002443579522 y176.612097040948 TrX0 TrY0 TrZ0 j=0 a=0 
b=0 c=0 d=0 e=0 g=0 t=0 Va=0 Vb=0 Vc=0 Vd=0 Vx=0 Vy=0  Vm5 n
long_beach0033.TIF


I know what all of the other things do, but have not been able to find any 
documentation on j. The j=0 in that last one seems to be the thing that 
makes this image stack with the first without messing up the positions. If 
true how does a person set it and if I can is there a reliable way to 
figure out where to set the stack to.(It would be real nice if I could tell 
it stack image a to have the same stack number as image b, without me 
having to know what stack b already is in, as that appears to be a moving 
target)

All thought and comments welcome,

Thanks,
Brandon

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: How to fuse my stacks not what huging thinks is a stack.

2014-11-26 Thread Brandon
Thank you everyone, I had no idea that setting was even there. I have found 
that setting it to 0.9 solves the problem.

What is the point of setting the stacks by hand? It looks like this will do 
it automatically for me and will save me the time and effort of stacking 
them and then going to the optimizer tab and unlinking them as there is 
almost always a little shake between shots.



On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:05:16 PM UTC-8, Tduell wrote:

 On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 05:56:23 +1100, T. Modes thomas...@gmx.de 
 javascript: wrote: 

 Thanks Thomas. 
 In Photos tab, set Group by: Output stacks, then set minimum overlap. 

 Cheers, 
 -- 
 Regards, 
 Terry Duell 


Thanks I would not have found it without your detailed instructions. It 
really is amazing how much stuff is hidden in hugin if a person can find it.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] How to fuse my stacks not what huging thinks is a stack.

2014-11-25 Thread Brandon


On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:14:12 AM UTC-8, Tduell wrote:

 I'm pretty sure that hugin will honour your choice of stacks, rather than 
   
 use the above rule. I have always set the images in my stacks, and haven't 
   
 tried exposure fusion from stacks without any stacks set. 
 The images in each stack do need to be perfectly aligned for this to give 
   
 a good result. 
 Auto bracketed shots, hand held, can be sufficiently out of alignment to   
 give a poor result. Hand held bracketed shots are best put through   
 align_image_stack prior to stitching and using exposure fusion from   
 stacks. 

 Cheers, 
 -- 
 Regards, 
 Terry Duell 


That is what I thought it should do, but it appear to do differently. When 
I photograph I currently do a bracketed down shot with the tripod, then 
turn the tripod 180 and do the next bracketed down shot. I set those as two 
different stacks. Yet when hugin goes to stitch it it will combine those, 
plus if I have a handheld shot in a third stack it will combine it in there 
as well.

I came to that conclusion by checking the filename_stack_ldr_ images. 
There is not enough of them compared to what I told it to make and when I 
find the downshot it has combined more  stacks than it should have.

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[hugin-ptx] How to fuse my stacks not what huging thinks is a stack.

2014-11-24 Thread Brandon
From the wiki,

If *Exposure fused from stacks* is enabled then hugin will group the input 
 images into exposure stacks by comparing positions, any images with more 
 than 70 % overlap are grouped like this. Each of these bracketed 
 http://wiki.panotools.org/Bracketing exposure stacks will be exposure 
 fused 
 http://wiki.panotools.org/index.php?title=Exposure_fusionaction=editredlink=1
  
 with enfuse http://wiki.panotools.org/Enfuse and the results seam 
 blended together into a panorama with enblend 
 http://wiki.panotools.org/Enblend. 



Is it possible to have hugin enfuse stacks of my choosing on the photos tab 
instead of  the default  any images with more than 70 % overlap combined 
into each stack? If I can force it to use my stacks all is well. If hugin 
instead grabs 2 different stacks of photos(normally my down shots) and 
combines them the result looks like the camera shook while taking the shot.

Thanks,
Brandon

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[hugin-ptx] Re: workflow enfuse with no panorama?! can't figure it out

2014-11-22 Thread Brandon
Let us know what settings you find that make much of a difference. In the 
last month or so I have been messing with them and have not been able to 
find a way to improve them much. Windows the bane of this photographer. It 
seems there should be a good setting to deal with them, but I have not 
found the perfect ones yet.

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[hugin-ptx] Batch processor is starting to have problems.

2014-11-16 Thread Brandon
HI all.

The batch processor is starting to give me problems. The symptoms range 
from taking a long time to open to the icon not responding period. Plus it 
like to throw me a few different errors once in a while.

When trying to start it once in a while I get this

DDE data request failed: A request for a synchronous data transaction has 
timed out.


Once going I once in a while get messages along the lines of


10:35:00 PM: W:\zoober\source\weekend B\WA long 
beach\gameroom/long_beach0321.TIF: unknown field with tag 59932 (0xea1c) 
encountered (in module TIFFReadDirectory)

Once it finally gets going if I remove all of the completed projects from 
the que it tends to think life is good again for a while. A few dozen 
projects later it starts slowing down and not responding very quickly if at 
all.

Any thoughts?

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[hugin-ptx] Remove control points that are under a mask?

2014-10-26 Thread Brandon
I am having a hard time convincing hugin to not put control points on my 
tri-pod. Is there any way to do prevent control points from being put on 
them? Failing that is there a way to remove control points that have been 
placed in an area that has a mask on it?

I have been using cpclean, but I have not figured out a consistent way to 
use it and get the correct results. If I mess around and run it a half 
dozen times it generally does the job. Seems there should be a better way.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Remove control points that are under a mask?

2014-10-26 Thread Brandon
A quick follow up Is there a way to remove the control points from masks 
from the command line?



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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin appears to be non-deterministic?

2014-10-24 Thread Brandon
Enblend is the tool that figures out where to blend the lines, it seams to 
have a randomness when figuring some parts of where to blend photos 
together. I have tested it a lot and near as I can tell that is the only 
part in my work flow that changes much and it is just a little here and 
there. Most of the time it is not noticeable. If that is a problem you 
might try multiblend I have not messed with it much but I do know it works 
differently and it may give you consistent results. Also check the 
documentation on enblend, there may have been mention of the seed generator 
in there.



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[hugin-ptx] What kind of lens does hugin call a Rokinon 8mm?

2014-10-16 Thread Brandon
I have a new fish eye lens and I do not know what to tell hugin it is. 

It is a dead lens, so it does not have any exif data for hugin to look at 
so I need to put it in by hand. The lens is a 
Rokinon HD8M-C 8mm f/3.5 HD Fisheye Lens with Removeable Hood for Canon 
DSLR 8-8mm, Fixed-Non-Zoom Lens

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008X1C4IY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s01?ie=UTF8psc=1


The part that has me stumped is it a normal lens, circular fish eye, a full 
frame fish eye or something else? I am using it on a cannon rebel t5 if 
that makes any difference. It has a focal multiplier of 1.585x


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Re: [hugin-ptx] What kind of lens does hugin call a Rokinon 8mm?

2014-10-16 Thread Brandon


 On Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:02:34 PM UTC-7, David Benes wrote:Hi 
 Brandon,
 is seems, that it is the same lens as Samyang 8mm f/3.5 (except the 
 removable hood).
 That Samyang has stereographic projection.

 Regards
 David



On your advice I just tried a stereographic projection and re-optimized one 
of my projects and it looks great!  I had tried the other settings that I 
mentioned above and it never worked out. I was starting to worry that the 
lens would not work with hugin.

A big thanks, getting that right makes me a lot happier person :)

I still need to figure out how the correct lens parameters. The two 
projects that I just loaded and optimized are now doing very well. The only 
complainant is that the extreme edges are not quite lining up right. 
Hopefully a night of messing around I can get them corrected.

To shift the question a little bit, how does a person know what kind of 
projection is the correct one for their lens and or camera combo? I read 
everything there was with my lens and there was no mention of anything that 
would have lead me to think stereographic.

On the Canon T5, the lens behaves as a full frame fisheye.  The focal 
 length usually works out nearer 9mm than 8mm, but the optimizer will 
 evaluate the correct hfov when you stitch a full 360x180 panorama. 

 John


 I was thinking the way you were and had been trying the various fisheye 
projections and it was not working. Maybe someone has some insight as to 
why it turns out to be a stereographic instead?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin Translation x PTGui Viewpoint optimization

2014-10-14 Thread Brandon
Could a person stitch the pano together with everything other than the 
handheld down shot. Stitch it take the result and turn it into a cube. Then 
take the floor side of the cube and using the mosaic stuff that hugin has 
put the hand held down shoot onto the floor side of the cube?

I have not had a down shot bad enough that I have done it yet, but I have 
wondered about it and if that would be possible.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: With command line scriting how to load lens data from file?

2014-10-12 Thread Brandon
Thank you, that sounds like it should solve my problem. :) I did not 
realize the database was local, so I have never used it. I will play with 
that and see if I can get it to work for me. 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Enblend adds black to edges of some pictures

2014-09-26 Thread Brandon
I restitched it a few times and got the same picture as what I posted.

Thanks for your input and directing me in the correct direction. I did a 
little more experamenting and I think I have figured out that it only 
happens when using an include mask. I have been thinking about it and I am 
pretty sure it has never happened when I have just been using exclude 
masks. If I remove either one of the include masks in the test project the 
bug goes away. Replace the missing one with an exclude mask in the correct 
place and there is no bug.

I have reported the bug and all that I know about it. I hope it helps 
figure out the bug :)

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin operation questions from a mostly-newby

2014-09-14 Thread Brandon


 So the stitch that took Hugin 6 hours (and for which I hadn't found 
 the proper means of setting the scope of the images), took Gigapan 
 Stitcher 16 minutes.  And that was with basically one button press: 
 - Stitch 


One thing that I have discovered that really helps speed the stitching up 
is on the stitching tab put -a with out the quotes as a command for 
enblend. I am generally stitching in the10-20k pixels wide range and using 
the -a cuts stitching time by 1/4 to 1/3. The only down side that I have 
found to using -a is that it is a bugger to get the masks right when there 
are a lot of moving objects close to the camera(think family reunion with 
the whole family around the camera and the people move some between shoots) 
For your pictures it should help stitch time a lot.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Problem with GL preview

2014-09-10 Thread Brandon
Tonight this bug is really bothering me. I have hit my undo button often 
enough that I have noticed the change that is causing the problem tonight. 
On the stitching tab if I have the canvas set to the optimal size (23514) 
the bug is not there, but if I set it smaller than 11750 (about half) the 
problem starts happening. Conversely if I set the output any bigger than 
optimal size it shows up. The further I get from that general range the 
worse the blurring gets.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: autopano.exe return errors when run with huggin.

2014-09-08 Thread Brandon
On Monday, September 8, 2014 5:54:59 AM UTC-7, Henk Tijdink wrote:

 Correction, I'm only sure that autopano of Alexandre Jenny doesn't work on 
 a 64 bits system. 0n 32 bits windows 7 I didn't test.

 Op maandag 8 september 2014 13:59:54 UTC+2 schreef Henk Tijdink:

 I don't know which autopano.exe you use.
 If it is autopano.exe 1.03 of Alexandre Jenny then it doesn't work in 
 Windows 7. Even not in compatibility mode. It is only a 32 bits program. 
 Even on WIN 7 32 bit it doesn't work.That is known, but sometime people 
 forget it. If it is autopano.exe in Autopano SIFT-C for the 2 way 
 controlpoint generation in combination with generate key.exe 
 (multirow/stacking) that should work.

 Kind regards, 
 Henk Tijdink

 I am using autopano.exe 1.03 http://autopano.kolor.com/ on a 64 bit 
system and it is working great on my desktop(takes about 1/4 the time and 
gets three times as many control points at CPfind, plus last night I was 
learning the command line options on it and it allows for an amazing amount 
of control over how it finds points and how long it takes to do a search). 
Since there is a question on if it will work on all 64 bit systems I will 
make sure I give it a test with the command line on my friends computer 
next chance that I get.



On Monday, September 8, 2014 5:29:44 AM UTC-7, Cartola wrote:

Try also to check that all paths for all images don't have strange 
characters in your friends machine, like spaces, accent characters or 
punctuation.


I have checked for fancy characters in the paths for the pictures and hugin 
and there are none.(that has been a problem sometimes in the past, I think 
I have learned my lesson on that point finally)



You told your friend has two Hugin versions... so, who knows, perhaps there 
 is some mess if the PATH variable calls the binaries from the wrong 
 version instead of from the actual, desired directory? I don't recall if 
 windows prefers the binary from the current directory or from the PATH. 
 Just an idea.



That is something that I could do a little more testing on. Where I have 
been trying to recreate the error message on my desktop(where autopano will 
work from hugin) I have not been able to get that error message by messing 
up the paths. As far as I can remember I only have the one version of 
autopano all be it in two locations, one in each hugin bin. On my friends 
laptop I did go to preferences and set the full path to autopano and it did 
not change the error. When I set the full path to a place where autopano 
was lot located it gave me a different error message.

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[hugin-ptx] autopano.exe return errors when run with huggin.

2014-09-07 Thread Brandon
I have a fun little bug to run down.

Between me and a friend we have two windows 7 computers with hugin 
installed. I have been using autopano for a while and I really like 
autopanos speed(yes cpfind is needed when it messes up but that is not 
often). On my desktop I just put them in the bin folder and then tried 
using them from hugin and they work as expected with no extra worries.(both 
2012 and 2013 versions of hugin)

On my friends laptop computer with windows 7 I put the exact same file in 
the bin folder of both the 2012 and 2013 version and have tried them both. 
In both cases I get an error popup along the lines of 

autopano Could not execute command:

Then the error message continues by filling in this line with stuff. 
/allinone /path:%d /keys:%p /project:oto /name:%o /size:1024 /f %i

I have checked the settings for both control point detectors and it is the 
same on both computers. 

I have tried to reproduce this error in my computer and I am not able to by 
removing the file or messing up the command line stuff in the control point 
detector options.

Using google I have found the place in the source code that makes the call.

search this page http://sourceforge.net/p/hugin/mailman/message/19937994/ 
for the phrase

// This doesn't work properly - GWP

It shows up 4 times. Near as I can tell 4 lines below the first two times it 
shows up I can find where that particular error message is be displayed by 
hugin. I am not too good with C++, near as I can tell that error should only 
pop up if there are too many pictures and probably not even then. 
I have tried running autopano on my friends computer with just 2 pictures and 
as many as 20, both get the same error. I have not tried it with over 127. (on 
mine it works no matter how many I have tested)

Any thoughts? Would this be a bug of some kind or did I somehow mess up 
installing it? Any thoughts on a work around or a fix?

Thanks,
Brandon






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[hugin-ptx] Re: Looking for a tutorial on pto files

2014-08-31 Thread Brandon
Thanks that is exactly what I was looking for.

For some reason I never even saw the doc folder(I had to have seen it, I 
just never stopped to look at it).

I am doing some odd things such as making cubes or taking cubes and making 
them into an equalrectangle and other things that near as I can tell are 
not supported by the command line programs. So far anything that I have 
wanted to do Bruno has made a pear script to do. Where I do not get along 
with peal I have been reworking most of them into AutoIT3. The main 
advantage being that it is easy to make any kind of a GUI and some pretty 
complex scripts with AutoIT3 and then I can have it run command line 
commands with nona to do the work. (the main down side is that it will only 
work on a windows machine, I am actually getting some pretty good 
performance out of it.)

I am wanting a better understanding of what is in the PTO files to make it 
easier when I translate one of Bruno's scripts for AutoIT3 to work with. 
Plus if I understand what is happening well enough I hope to be able to add 
new features to the hugin scripting community. 

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Exposure fused from any arrangement problem

2014-08-29 Thread Brandon
I do not see a problem on the right, but I could be over looking something 
the big thing that I see is center left all of the white around the windows 
and the street light. They look like the camera shuck on a long exposure 
image(i know that is not what happened here)

Does it do it on a low range stitch? I am wondering if your control points 
between the images have some issues and are not quite lined up.

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[hugin-ptx] Looking for a tutorial on pto files

2014-08-21 Thread Brandon
Messing around with the nona and the command line I have acquired an 
interest in learning more about what is inside a pto file. I have opened 
them with text editors and I have figured out most of it. 
http://archive.bigben.id.au/tutorials/360/readme/index.html Also helped.

There are variables in the PTO files that hugin creates that I have not 
been able to find an explanation for. Is there somewhere that I can go to 
read up on PTO files as hugin understands them? 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Problem with GL preview

2014-08-05 Thread Brandon
I get this problem from time to time. When it is messed up, if I go through 
the preview one image at a time I generally find that it is caused by just 
a few pictures and not all of them are a mess.

Near as I can tell it is caused when optimizing some of the lens 
parameters(I have not narrowed it down to a single one yet, currently I am 
thinking that any of the lens settings can mess it up). My work around has 
been to either ingorne it as it does not show up in the final pano or use 
the other preview. If I really want to use the GL preview I have found that 
reseting the lens parameters and optimizing again will solve the problem 
almost every time.

For debugging I find this in both the 2012 and 2013 versions. As far as 
lens on the camera I have found it with every camera that I have used, a 
point and shoot as well as a 30mm and 12 mm(after adjusting for sensor 
size) lens.

I am pretty sure the problem is that the GL preview has a problem with the 
lens optimizations from time to time. At one point I went through and 
messed up the settings one at a time to see what each does and it is easy 
to take a normal good looking pano and make it look like modern art with 
the GL preview. To do that take any good pano, go to the lens tab and 
change any of the lens settings by 2 or more whole numbers and it will be 
way out of whack, some times it takes a lot less.

Near as I can tell the other preview does not do it.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: unblended triangle in fused version?

2014-07-25 Thread Brandon
Thanks for the tip on using the newer version of enblend. I have not 
stitched enough since switching to say if it has solved the problem or not, 
but I have not seen it yet so I am hopeful.


Another possibility is that neighbouring images overlap so much that, 
 despite A being largely to the left of B, some parts of remapped A are off 
 to the right of B, again giving them the chance to appear in the final 
 composite when they should be covered up (this isn't likely in your single 
 row pano).

Actually I think that may be exactly what happened. That pano and the 
others are full 360 by 180s and the down row can have a lot of over 
excessive overlap. 


 Putting the images in shot order or overlapping a little less could stop 
 the first case happening. Or you could use a href=
 http://horman.net/multiblend;multiblend/a ;)

 I am very interested in multiblend. The idea of something that is as much 
faster as it claims to be has my full interest but I have not been able to 
figure out how to get hugin to use it. I have put it in the bin folder but 
after that I am at a loss as far as how to tell hugin to use it. There are 
some settings under preferences that look like they should do the trick, 
but near as I can tell when I change them it is still using enblend. Any 
tips on how to install multiblend so that hugin will use it?

Thanks all,
Brandon
 

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