Call for papers UK GSE Conference

2008-04-23 Thread Mark Wilson
All,

 

This is a call for papers for the next October 2008 GSE Annual conference in
the UK. All details can be found at: www.gse.org.uk/tyc/

 

I am looking for zOS (Large Systems) related presentations of a technical
nature.

 

Each session is 60 minutes in duration and I would consider double sessions
for the right material.

 

Please let me have a short description of your suggestion and a brief bio
and I will add it to the list for consideration.

 

All submissions gratefully received.

 

Regards

 

Mark

 

 

 

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VSAM random read error

2008-04-23 Thread Saurabh Pandey
Hello,

We have a KSDS file being read randomly during daily batch process. But the 
read fails with file-status 23 (record not found). On analysing the abend, the 
record with the read-key is always found in the file. This happens on a random 
basis - once or twice a month.

The job gets through successfully if we resubmit the job (after the abend:w/o 
making any changes!) or introduce another step to take a backup of the file 
and then use it(the backup file) in the program. 

Initially I thought that the file was being updated by some other program 
running concurrently. I checked the abended job's execution time and found 
that no other program running parallely was even using this file.

I have seemingly exhausted any possibility I could think of. Could it be 
related 
to the record being present in secondary extents? I am getting wilder :)

Does someone has an idea here?

Thank you,
Saurabh

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Re: VSAM random read error

2008-04-23 Thread Stephen Mednick
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saurabh Pandey
 Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 4:55 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: VSAM random read error
 
 Hello,
 
 We have a KSDS file being read randomly during daily batch 
 process. But the read fails with file-status 23 (record not 
 found). On analysing the abend, the record with the read-key 
 is always found in the file. This happens on a random basis - 
 once or twice a month.
 
 The job gets through successfully if we resubmit the job 
 (after the abend:w/o making any changes!) or introduce 
 another step to take a backup of the file and then use it(the 
 backup file) in the program. 
 
 Initially I thought that the file was being updated by some 
 other program running concurrently. I checked the abended 
 job's execution time and found that no other program running 
 parallely was even using this file.
 
 I have seemingly exhausted any possibility I could think of. 
 Could it be related to the record being present in secondary 
 extents? I am getting wilder :)
 
 Does someone has an idea here?
 
 Thank you,
 Saurabh
 

Are you sure that the file is open for update by another task such as CICS? 

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia

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Re: VSAM random read error

2008-04-23 Thread Stephen Mednick
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saurabh Pandey
 Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 4:55 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: VSAM random read error
 
 Hello,
 
 We have a KSDS file being read randomly during daily batch 
 process. But the read fails with file-status 23 (record not 
 found). On analysing the abend, the record with the read-key 
 is always found in the file. This happens on a random basis - 
 once or twice a month.
 
 The job gets through successfully if we resubmit the job 
 (after the abend:w/o making any changes!) or introduce 
 another step to take a backup of the file and then use it(the 
 backup file) in the program. 
 
 Initially I thought that the file was being updated by some 
 other program running concurrently. I checked the abended 
 job's execution time and found that no other program running 
 parallely was even using this file.
 
 I have seemingly exhausted any possibility I could think of. 
 Could it be related to the record being present in secondary 
 extents? I am getting wilder :)
 
 Does someone has an idea here?
 
 Thank you,
 Saurabh
 

Are you sure that the file ***isn't*** open for update by another task such as
CICS? 

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia

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Re: VSAM random read error

2008-04-23 Thread Pandey_Saurabh
Hello Stephen,

Thanks for your response.   
The file is indeed open for update in CICS but the key for which the
random read failed was added quite some time back.

Thank you,
Saurabh

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Subject: Re: VSAM random read error

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saurabh Pandey
 Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 4:55 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: VSAM random read error
 
 Hello,
 
 We have a KSDS file being read randomly during daily batch 
 process. But the read fails with file-status 23 (record not 
 found). On analysing the abend, the record with the read-key 
 is always found in the file. This happens on a random basis - 
 once or twice a month.
 
 The job gets through successfully if we resubmit the job 
 (after the abend:w/o making any changes!) or introduce 
 another step to take a backup of the file and then use it(the 
 backup file) in the program. 
 
 Initially I thought that the file was being updated by some 
 other program running concurrently. I checked the abended 
 job's execution time and found that no other program running 
 parallely was even using this file.
 
 I have seemingly exhausted any possibility I could think of. 
 Could it be related to the record being present in secondary 
 extents? I am getting wilder :)
 
 Does someone has an idea here?
 
 Thank you,
 Saurabh
 

Are you sure that the file ***isn't*** open for update by another task
such as
CICS? 

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia

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Channel Programs being purged

2008-04-23 Thread Tom Quarendon
I have a situation where some channel programs I'm executing seem to get 
getting purged, and the ECBs are not being posted resulting in my 
program hanging when I wait on them.


I've diagnosed that the problem is purging because I look at the 
IOBECBCC field before I wait on the program and see that it contains the 
value hex 48, and the documentation for that completion code says that 
the program has been purged.


So my question is, what does this mean, and how do I recover? I've tried 
just reexecuting the channel program and that does have some success, 
however I suspect that that's not the whole story.


It's suprising to me that I've got a value in the IOBECBCC field but 
that the ECB hasn't been posted. It means that the program logic:


  1. build your channel program
  2. execute using EXCP
  3. some time later wait on the ECB to see it's complete
  4. check the completion code and sense bytes for error.

which is basically what the documentation says to do isn't sufficient. 
You need an unspecified step 2a, check for some unknown conditions and 
perform some unspecified recovery.


Any help on this would be appreciated.
Cheers.

Tom Quarendon.


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Re: Channel Programs being purged

2008-04-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:02:33 +0100 Tom Quarendon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:I have a situation where some channel programs I'm executing seem to get 
:getting purged, and the ECBs are not being posted resulting in my 
:program hanging when I wait on them.

:I've diagnosed that the problem is purging because I look at the 
:IOBECBCC field before I wait on the program and see that it contains the 
:value hex 48, and the documentation for that completion code says that 
:the program has been purged.

How did you determine this?

Did you CANCEL the job and look at the dump? - that might affect the results.

Best bet is to use the DUMP command.

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Re: VSAM random read error

2008-04-23 Thread Stephen Mednick
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
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 Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 5:36 PM
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 Subject: Re: VSAM random read error
 
 Hello Stephen,
 
 Thanks for your response. 
 The file is indeed open for update in CICS but the key for 
 which the random read failed was added quite some time back.
 
 Thank you,
 Saurabh
 

What are the SHARE options for the file?

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia

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Re: Big-screen Monitor

2008-04-23 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We use Attachmate Extra and define consoles based on the LPAR. We run 
PROD, PRODVM, DEV, TEST, TESTVM all from one.

Daniel McLaughlin
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Crawford  Company
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Antwort: Re: Healthcheck System logger

2008-04-23 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Hi Sam,
thanks for pointing me to APAR  OA22255. I've just installed it, 
unfortunately there is no change in behaviour for this check.

Werner Kuehnel

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU schrieb am 22.04.2008 
12:49:43:

 Hi, Dave Danner has posted about this before... Search the archives for
 the thread with a subject  Problems with checks IXGLOGR_*. Here is the
 post I saved.  I don't think anything is available beyond what he
 discussed here.  Thanks, Sam 
 
 
 Sorry for the late reply... What Jorge describes has been a known
 problem with the IBMIXGLOGR checks from the beginning that I and others
 have complained about.  Apar OA22255 (which just closed on Friday) will
 improve the situation somewhat. 
 
 

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Re: UK32210 and IMS

2008-04-23 Thread Bobbie Justice
I take it you have seen this note in the PSP bucket: 


SERVERPAC Customers
 ---
 If you have received File Manager on ServerPac, you will
 have received all English fmids, regardless of
 whether you want them all or not. This can cause problems
 when applying service to File Manager, particularly if you
 have received File Manager/IMS and you do not have the IMS
 product installed. In this case, delete any dependent File
 Manager fmids that you do not want, when the ServerPac is
 first installed, and before any subsequent service is
 applied to File Manager.
 You can use the sample jobs described in the File Manager
 Customization Guide Appendix E, Removing File Manager, to
 do this. Deleting the File Manager/DB2 or File Manager/IMS
 fmids will not delete any parts from the File Manager base
 function, nor affect the functioning of the File Manager
 base function in any way. Do not delete any target or
 distribution libraries unless you are deleting all the File
 Manager fmids.

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Peoplesoft Installation Question

2008-04-23 Thread Davis, Kriss P
This is a bit off topic.  Apologies in advance...

I am looking for a university or college that purchased and has in production 
only the HR/HCM part of Peoplesoft.  In other words, the University purchased 
the HR/HCM component of Peoplesoft, but have interfaced it with either another 
vendors' Student and Finance systems, or to home grown systems.  There are some 
specific questions regarding that type of configuration we would like to talk 
to someone about.

Feel free to reply off list.

Thanks in advance.

Kriss Davis

e-Merge
Merging People, Process, and Technology
Illinois State University
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Re: REXX Error (Was: 'action' in UK33496)

2008-04-23 Thread Gary Green
re  Of course, being 51 may have something to do with it.

Or as we say, C.R.S ;)

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Re: Healthcheck System logger

2008-04-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Werner,

This may be dumb questions but if you did not IPL did you follow exactly
the steps outlined in the APAR to activate the new CHECK code?


  -- Option A: Refresh the logger checks
  1. First issue these SETPROG commands from a MVS console after
  this support is applied:
 
  SETPROG EXIT,DELETE,EXITNAME=HZSADDCHECK,MODULE=IXGHC1DE
   ,FORCE(YES)
  SETPROG EXIT,ADD,EXITNAME=HZSADDCHECK,MODULE=IXGHC1DE
 
  2. Then refresh the health checks by issuing this command from
  an MVS console:
 
  F hzsproc,REFRESH,CHECK(IBMIXGLOGR,*)
 
 
 
  If you do not delete and redefine the exit (step 1), but
  simply refresh the health checks (step 2), the checks may end
  in a parameter error.
 
  -- Option B: Restart Health Checker
  1. First issue these SETPROG commands from a MVS console after
  this support is applied:
 
  SETPROG EXIT,DELETE,EXITNAME=HZSADDCHECK,MODULE=IXGHC1DE
   ,FORCE(YES)
  SETPROG EXIT,ADD,EXITNAME=HZSADDCHECK,MODULE=IXGHC1DE
 
  2. Then issue the following commands to stop and restart the
  IBM Health Checker for z/OS address space:
 
  F HZSPROC,STOP
  START HZSPROC
 
  If you do not delete and redefine the exit (step 1), but
  simply restart health checker (step 2), the checks may end
  in a parameter error.
 
  -- Option C:
  IPL the system.

Did you create a PARMLIB member something like this 


SYS1.PARMLIB(HZSPRMIX) - 01.00  Columns 00
 ===  Scroll 
* Top of Data 
/*  */
/*  */
/*   GEICO z/OS Health Checker Reset LOGR Checks*/
/*  */
/*   The LOGR checks by default stay around forever once tripped*/
/*   This provides a way to move the window forward on what to  */
/*   report. Issue the command to invoke this member to discard */
/*   old exceptions.*/
/*  */
/*   F HZSPROC,ADD,PARMLIB=IX   */
/*  */
/*   This only works on z/OS 1.7 to 1.9 with PTFs for APAR OA22255  */
/*   installed.  It is included in z/OS 1.10 at base.   */
/*  */
/*APAR Identifier .. OA22255  Last Changed  */
/*08/01/02  */
/*  SYSTEM LOGGER HEALTH CHECKS UPDATED WITH PARAMETERS: ALLOWS */
/*  INSTALLATIONS TO HIDE CONDITIONS AFTER AN INPUTTED TIME.*/
/*  */
/*  Symptom .. NF NEWFUNCTION   Status ... CLOSED   */
/*UR1   */
/*  Severity ... 3  Date Closed .   */
/*07/12/07  */
/*  Component .. 5752SCLOG  Duplicate of    */
/*  Reported Release . 740  Fixed Release   */
/*999   */
/*  Component Name SYSTEM LOGGERSpecial Notice  */
/*ATTENTION */
/*  Current Target Date ..08/02/01  Flags   */
/*  SCP ...NEW FUNCTION */
/*  Platform   SYSPLXDS */
/*  */
/*  */
/*  Status Detail: SHIPMENT - Packaged solution is available for*/
/*shipment. */
/*  */
/*  PE PTF List:*/
/*  */
/*  PTF List:   */
/*  Release 720   : UA38454 available 07/12/27 (F712 )  */
/*  Release 730   : UA38455 available 07/12/27 (F712 )  */
/*  Release 740   : UA38456 available 07/12/27 (F712 )  */
/*  */
/*  */
/*  */
UPDATE CHECK(IBMIXGLOGR,*)
  PARM('TIME(MON/DAY/YR4 HR:MIN:SEC)')  
 Bottom of Data **


Did you then use the MODIFY command (F 

Re: storage limit smf exit ?

2008-04-23 Thread Jakubek, Jan
Michael Poil post from Feb.14/2008 with subject:
How to stop SHRLIBRGNSIZE being allocated from an Address Space?
explains (or hints at) why it could be so.

The mentioned post was on MVS-OE. Here it is:

In the context of running a Java application that has many DLLs, is
there any easy way to stop the BPXPRMxx SHRLIBRGNSIZE being allocated
from an Address Space when loading the first eligible DLL?

I know that I can stop it happening by removing the +l extended
attribute from every  DLL that is being used, but that is a messy
solution.

So what I want is to have no SHRLIBRGNSIZE allocated and  have the
eligible DLLs loaded into the Address Space without changing the
attributes.

Maybe someone out there has a neat solution?

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Re: Business Recovery Exercise

2008-04-23 Thread Jakubek, Jan

  - one of our procedures is to DELETE NOSCRATCH thousands of production
datasets; catalogue cleanup before dataset restore...this process took
hours to execute...might this be related to the CATALOG AUTOTUNE in our
1.7 system?


A possible way to speed up updates (of any KSDS):
- Sort deleted records in descending sequence.
- Alter SHAREOPTIONS to (3 2) for the duration of the update (cannot be
shared at such time).

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Re: Business Recovery Exercise

2008-04-23 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Question to the OP - When you are done with the delete noscratch and the 
dataset restores, are there any catalog entries besides what has been restored?
 
If the answer to the above is NO, then why not start the preocess with empty 
catalogs?
 
You might be able to bypass the entire delete noscratch step.
 
If the answer to the question is YES, you might want to consider segregating 
the datasets to be restored into their own catalog(s).





  - one of our procedures is to DELETE NOSCRATCH thousands of production
datasets; catalogue cleanup before dataset restore...this process took
hours to execute...might this be related to the CATALOG AUTOTUNE in our
1.7 system?


A possible way to speed up updates (of any KSDS):
- Sort deleted records in descending sequence.
- Alter SHAREOPTIONS to (3 2) for the duration of the update (cannot be
shared at such time).





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Re: VSAM random read error

2008-04-23 Thread Ken Porowski
 We had a similar issue with a file open for update in CICS and read in
batch.  Occasionally a record not found condition was hit but the record
was in the file.  We did not want to use SHRoption 4 due to the
performance hit and we didn't have a product to allow file sharing
(SHROPTION 5, SYSB-II, etc.).  What the programmers did was insert a
read/locate for a key of high values (not sure if this was done once at
file open or after every RNF) then redo the read.  This seemed to solve
the issue.

I assume a CI/CA split happens after batch file open and the record
needed is moved (in one of the split CI/CA), the read to high values
must have forced a refresh of the index to batch.  Pardon my lack of a
more technical answer I don't have time to track down the details.

Ken

-Original Message-
Pandey_Saurabh

Hello Stephen,

Thanks for your response.   
The file is indeed open for update in CICS but the key for which the
random read failed was added quite some time back.

Thank you,
Saurabh

-Original Message-
Stephen Mednick

 -Original Message-
 Saurabh Pandey
 
 Hello,
 
 We have a KSDS file being read randomly during daily batch process. 
 But the read fails with file-status 23 (record not found). On 
 analysing the abend, the record with the read-key is always found in 
 the file. This happens on a random basis - once or twice a month.
 
 The job gets through successfully if we resubmit the job (after the 
 abend:w/o making any changes!) or introduce another step to take a 
 backup of the file and then use it(the backup file) in the program.
 
 Initially I thought that the file was being updated by some other 
 program running concurrently. I checked the abended job's execution 
 time and found that no other program running parallely was even using 
 this file.
 
 I have seemingly exhausted any possibility I could think of. 
 Could it be related to the record being present in secondary extents? 
 I am getting wilder :)
 
 Does someone has an idea here?
 
 Thank you,
 Saurabh
 

Are you sure that the file ***isn't*** open for update by another task
such as CICS? 

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia

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Re: REXX Error (Was: action in UK33496)

2008-04-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:15:59 +, Ted MacNEIL 
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...
 Of course, being 51 may have something to do with it.
...

Ah.  I see.   Your mind is still too young and unruly.
Well, don't worry.  You'll grow out of it.

Pat O'Keefe 

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Re: IBM propose to migrate all servers to z10 , what's the upgrade path for p595 or p6

2008-04-23 Thread R.S.

Kelman, Tom wrote:

John,

I believe that your statements would hold true if you were comparing an
IFL on the z9 against the p6.  As I understand it the p6 chip is a
1.8Ghz chip and the z9 IFL has a 1.2Ghz chip.  


AFAIK it's not, P6 rating is over 4GHz.
However it doesn't matter. Comparing processor speed by comparison of 
cycle time is bad idea. It is enough to mention Intel cpu's (the same 
architecture!) when newer chip has more computing power at the same MHz 
speed. For example: 486DX4-100 and Pentium100.
More, it is possible that OS will perform better on given processor 
architecture. Not necessarily because the architecture is better, it can 
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Websphere MQ Monitoring Tool

2008-04-23 Thread Bill Johnson
Can anyone recommend a mainframe product to monitor MQ series. We use ASG's 
TMON's for CICS, DB2, and zOS. I assume they also have an MQ monitor? What 
other vendors products would you recommend?
   
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Re: Websphere MQ Monitoring Tool

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Re: Websphere MQ Monitoring Tool

2008-04-23 Thread Thomas Dunlap

Bill,

Yes there is a TMON for MQ.  There are also similar products from IBM 
(Omegamon for MQ) and BMC (Mainview MQ).  However you may want to stick 
with the family.  Normally these products have some level of 
integration and work together, plus you may be able to obtain a better 
price since you already have several other family members.


Cheers,
Tom


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Re: Websphere MQ Monitoring Tool

2008-04-23 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
One would be surprised what one finds via GOOGLE.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=MQ+monitoringbtnG=Google+Search 

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RMM Volume Release Sub Command

2008-04-23 Thread Hjelm, Norm
I'm looking for a RMM command that I can put into a batch program to
manually release tapes.
Basically I want to simulate option 8 (RELEASE) from the Librarian Menu
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Re: Websphere MQ Monitoring Tool

2008-04-23 Thread Chase, John
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 Can anyone recommend a mainframe product to monitor MQ 
 series. We use ASG's TMON's for CICS, DB2, and zOS. I assume 
 they also have an MQ monitor?

We run TMON/MQ, but since I'm not the MQ Guy I can't render an opinion
about it.

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Re: Websphere MQ Monitoring Tool

2008-04-23 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
TMON for MQ does exist.  Of the TMON products, I like it the best
because it gives you administration capabilities in addition to
monitoring.  There is also a distributed component that is available
that interfaces with the mainframe product to allow you to monitor all
of your MQ environments from one screen or gui.  I do all of my
mainframe MQ admin work through TMQ.


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Stand-alone

2008-04-23 Thread Lopez, Sharon
We are at our new datacenter and we are trying to perform stand-alone ICKDSF, 
and DFDSS from an IBM Tape Library.  We do not have any consoles yet and we are 
trying to do this from the HMC.  ICKDSF is the first file and it works 
finethe second file is DFDSS and it will load successfully but we are not 
able to get a console...we get MESSAGE INTERFACE UNAVAILABLE.  We were able to 
do this process at our original datacenter, but we had a console.  Has anyone 
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Re: Websphere MQ Monitoring Tool

2008-04-23 Thread Bill Johnson
Already did that and it didn't provide any real world user community opinions.
   
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Re: Stand-alone

2008-04-23 Thread Myers, Edouard (OCTO)
From the HMC, Highlight the LPAR that you are performing the standalone
on, Double click on system messages and that should let you continue
from there


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We are at our new datacenter and we are trying to perform stand-alone
ICKDSF, and DFDSS from an IBM Tape Library.  We do not have any consoles
yet and we are trying to do this from the HMC.  ICKDSF is the first file
and it works finethe second file is DFDSS and it will load
successfully but we are not able to get a console...we get MESSAGE
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Re: REXX Error (Was: action in UK33496)

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Jaffe

Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Consider:

/* I do this all the time... */

do phonyblock = 1 for 1
...
if Bailout then leave phonyblock
...
end phonyblock

o I put a name = 1 for 1 on all my large blocks, and use a
  matching end name
  - the interpreter checks that my ends match my dos.
  - but it's a kludge because I can't name the end nor the
leave without introducing a phony control variable.
  


Structured HLASM provides a simple DO for this need. For example:

|  
|  * Program Main Line*
|  
|DO ,
|  JAS   R14,Routine1
|  DOEXIT LTR,R15,R15,NZ
|  JAS   R14,Routine2
|  DOEXIT LTR,R15,R15,NZ
|  .
|  . (more routine calls)
|  .
|ENDDO ,

These can, of course, be named and nested -- no dummy control variable 
required:


|DO LABEL=ThisIsTheNameOfMyOuterDo
|  DO LABEL=ThisIsTheNameOfMyInnerDo
|.
|.
|LEAVE   ThisIsTheNameOfMyOuterDo
|.
|.
|  ENDDO , ThisIsTheNameOfMyInnerDo
|  .
|  . More logic here
|  .
|ENDDO , ThisIsTheNameOfMyOuterDo

One nice feature is that any labels you choose are actually exposed -- 
as coded -- within the HLASM name space. This means you can use them to 
produce the most efficient code possible for frequently-executed 
routines. Consider this example, using TRE, I posted in another thread:


|LM   R14,R15,0(R1)Load string ptr and its length
|LA   R1,TRTSCRUB  Ptr to translation table
|XR   R0,R0Set stop char = x'00'
|DO INFDo for translate
|  TRE   R14,R1  Translate the string
|  DOEXIT Z  Exit if no more data
|  IF O  If iterate needed
|ITERATE , Process more data
|  ENDIF ,   EndIf
|  MVC   0(1,R14),0(R1)  Translate x'00' to whatever
|  LAR14,1(,R14) Advance past stop character
|  AHI   R15,-1  Decrement length remaining
|  DOEXIT NP Exit if no more data
|ENDDO ,   EndDo for translate

It should run slightly faster if I expose a DO label and code instead:

|LM   R14,R15,0(R1)Load string ptr and its length
|LA   R1,TRTSCRUB  Ptr to translation table
|XR   R0,R0Set stop char = x'00'
|DO INF,LABEL=TreLoop  Do for translate
|  TRE   R14,R1  Translate the string
|  DOEXIT Z  Exit if no more data
|  JOTreLoop Branch if another segment
|  MVC   0(1,R14),0(R1)  Translate x'00' to whatever
|  LAR14,1(,R14) Advance past stop character
|  AHI   R15,-1  Decrement length remaining
|  DOEXIT NP Exit if no more data
|ENDDO ,   EndDo for translate

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Re: REXX Error (Was: action in UK33496)

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Jaffe

Ted MacNEIL wrote:

I should have said:
LEAVE  ITERATE should only be used to manage the current level.

Use flags/semiphores to continue to exit.
At least, that way you know what you have.
  


The intent of structured programming techniques, since their need was 
recognized 40 years ago, has been to improve software reliability by 
reducing program complexity.


Languages like REXX and Structured HLASM provide LEAVE and ITERATE as a 
means of reducing program complexity. Both statements allow for the 
specification of which of several nested constructs is to be exited or 
iterated. This facility is important and, when used appropriately, will 
reduce program complexity significantly.


Arbitrary avoidance of this capability will necessarily lead to 
scenarios in which the programmer must define, set, and test additional 
return codes, flags, or other program indicators, when exiting an inner 
construct, in order to cause some outer construct to be exited or 
iterated. If the nesting is quite deep, this extra handling will be 
required at every intermediate level until the target level is finally 
reached. While such programs can be said to work, they are much more 
fragile than programs written to exploit LEAVE and ITERATE as the 
language allows.


I recommend a ranking system in which the inner-most, of several nested 
constructs, is the most preferential target for exit/iterate and the 
outermost such construct is the least preferential; the remaining 
constructs ranked, as expected, according to nesting level. I view this 
as a practical approach because experience with world class software 
(  O:-) ) has shown that it's better to exit/iterate an outer construct 
than to introduce gratuitous program complexity to prove a point.


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Re: Channel Programs being purged

2008-04-23 Thread Peter Haas

On Apr 23, 2008, at 2:02 AM, Tom Quarendon wrote:

I have a situation where some channel programs I'm executing seem  
to get getting purged, and the ECBs are not being posted  
resulting in my program hanging when I wait on them.


PURGE and RESTORE are two complementary operations which are invoked  
by EXCP.


If your job gets scheduled for a swap, all I/O will be PURGEd (i.e.,  
removed from any I/O queue, thereby stopping all such I/O), and  
placed on a queue prior to swap-out.


When swap-in is complete, all I/O on that queue will be RESTOREd  
(i.e., replaced in any I/O queue, thereby restarting all such I/O).


Check very carefully that your IOBs are properly and completely set- 
up for EXCP operations.


If there was a basic problem with PURGE and RESTORE then all the EXCP- 
based access methods would be failing, too. But they aren't, so the  
incompatibility is yours.


PURGE and RESTORE has been around since OS/360 MVT Rel. 20.1 and TSO,  
and that is a LONG time. Nearly FORTY years.


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Re: REXX Error (Was: action in UK33496)

2008-04-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Languages like REXX and Structured HLASM provide LEAVE and ITERATE as a means 
of reducing program complexity. 
Both statements allow for the specification of which of several nested 
constructs is to be exited or 
iterated.
This facility is important and, when used appropriately, will reduce program 
complexity significantly.

Of course, multiple levels of nesting also increases programme complexity, as 
well.
When I get 'too' deep, I consider procedures.
Which introduces the other construct: RETURN.


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Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Jerry Fuchs
I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in 
three libraries.

Of course all three are link listed libraries. 

I can allocate .NEW libraries and copy into them, but how do I then rename 
them to the original name?

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
If they aren't held, say by the system, here is what i do.

Allocate New library:  Sys1.Somelibe.new
Copy in contents of old
Rename old to 'sys1.somelibe.old
Rename new to sys1.somelib 

If that isn't quite your question, my apologies.

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
Well, depending on the names and what is holding them,
VTAM, TCPIP, LLA, VLF,  What

You will probably need to bring something down or update a proc and cycle a 
function, or IPL a system or two.

Lizette


I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in 
three libraries.

Of course all three are link listed libraries. 

I can allocate .NEW libraries and copy into them, but how do I then rename 
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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Ooops, missed the allocated part. Thanks, Lizette...

This coffee-free diet is affecting my cognitive ability!

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 Well, depending on the names and what is holding them,
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 You will probably need to bring something down or update a proc and 
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 Lizette
 
 
 I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in 
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 Of course all three are link listed libraries. 
 
 I can allocate .NEW libraries and copy into them, but how do I then 
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Re: Channel Programs being purged

2008-04-23 Thread Edward Jaffe

Tom Quarendon wrote:
It's suprising to me that I've got a value in the IOBECBCC field but 
that the ECB hasn't been posted. It means that the program logic:


  1. build your channel program
  2. execute using EXCP
  3. some time later wait on the ECB to see it's complete
  4. check the completion code and sense bytes for error.

which is basically what the documentation says to do isn't sufficient. 
You need an unspecified step 2a, check for some unknown conditions 
and perform some unspecified recovery.


I suspect your program is doing something wrong (clearing the ECB at the 
wrong time?). We have products that use EXCP extensively and they do not 
have a step 2a.


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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:27:34 -0400, Jerry Fuchs wrote:

I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in
three libraries.

Of course all three are link listed libraries.

I can allocate .NEW libraries and copy into them, but how do I then rename
them to the original name?

I assume that you are not applying maintenance on the live system.

If you have the proper authority, you can rename a data set even though 
there is an ENQ on that DSNAME.  ISPF allows this.  For the required authority, 
see
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2s341/2.6.3.4

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I'm hoping you aren't applying the maintenance to the in-use libraries,
but to libraries with the same names on a different pack.

If this is the case, I go ahead and allocate the .NEW libraries and
apply my maintenance into them.  I then do something that's probably
quite dangerous and I'll most likely get my virtual fingers slapped here
for suggesting this, but I'll rename the libraries to something really
close to the production names, like SYS1.VTAMLIC for SYS1.VTAMLIB.
I then uncatalog the libraries (because I have the production libraries
cataloged using indirect catalogs).  I then shut off the VTOC index, do
a DUMPT of the VTOC on the volume with the new libraries and use
SUPERZAP to zap the VTOC to the correct DSN.  After another DUMPT to
make sure I didn't screw anything up, I then reactivate the VTOC index.

If somebody else has a safer way of doing this, I'd be willing to
change my (probably bad) habits.  :-)

Rex

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I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in
three libraries.

Of course all three are link listed libraries. 

I can allocate .NEW libraries and copy into them, but how do I then
rename them to the original name?

Thanks

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
 Replying to my own e-mail - now that's tacky.  

I'd suggest using Tom's approach instead of mine, just use ISPF to
rename them, ignoring the ENQ.

Rex

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I'm hoping you aren't applying the maintenance to the in-use libraries,
but to libraries with the same names on a different pack.

If this is the case, I go ahead and allocate the .NEW libraries and
apply my maintenance into them.  I then do something that's probably
quite dangerous and I'll most likely get my virtual fingers slapped here
for suggesting this, but I'll rename the libraries to something really
close to the production names, like SYS1.VTAMLIC for SYS1.VTAMLIB.
I then uncatalog the libraries (because I have the production libraries
cataloged using indirect catalogs).  I then shut off the VTOC index, do
a DUMPT of the VTOC on the volume with the new libraries and use
SUPERZAP to zap the VTOC to the correct DSN.  After another DUMPT to
make sure I didn't screw anything up, I then reactivate the VTOC index.

If somebody else has a safer way of doing this, I'd be willing to
change my (probably bad) habits.  :-)

Rex

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Subject: Help with applying maintenance

I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in
three libraries.

Of course all three are link listed libraries. 

I can allocate .NEW libraries and copy into them, but how do I then
rename them to the original name?

Thanks

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Support Model for Linux on System z

2008-04-23 Thread Frank Lawrence
We are in the process of writing a support model for Linux on System z that 
describes who in the IT organization will do what things from provisioning to 
problem diagnostics. 

Has anyone else attempted to address this; and more specifically, willing to 
share it or maybe portions of it?  I am most curious as to whether 
organizations are attempting to incorporate their Unix/AIX support folks into 
the mix or maybe training only their z/OS folks to do both z/VM and Linux.

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Re: Stand-alone

2008-04-23 Thread Jack Kelly
Since ICKDSF works OK, you appear to have access to the SYSCONS.
In you SA/DSS did you code an OPERCNSL keyword? Usually it'll wait if that 
console isn't there but you should have a WSC then. Did you get a WSC 
after/with the message? Standalones tend to communicate with WSC more so 
then messages.
I assume that you tried entering from the HMC to get the 'ADRY005E  DEFINE 
INPUT ...'? 

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Bobbie Justice
okay, consider your virtual fingers slapped. 

hopefully the applying maintenance is being done to an alternate sysres, and 
the real live datasets are cataloged using SYSR1, etc. . 

allocate .NEW libraries on the alt sysres larger 
copy contents of Current on the alt sysres to NEW
rename 'CURRENT (on the alt sysres) to .OLD (see rename dataset in use 
option from another poster) 
rename .NEW (on the alt sysres) to CURRENT 

re-run your apply. 

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Re: Support Model for Linux on System z

2008-04-23 Thread Mark Post
 On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at  2:20 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Lawrence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 We are in the process of writing a support model for Linux on System z that 
 describes who in the IT organization will do what things from provisioning 
 to problem diagnostics. 
 
 Has anyone else attempted to address this; and more specifically, willing to 
 share it or maybe portions of it?  I am most curious as to whether 
 organizations are attempting to incorporate their Unix/AIX support folks 
 into the mix or maybe training only their z/OS folks to do both z/VM and 
 Linux.

I've seen people go both ways.  Some are being more rigid about it than others. 
 In the various sessions I give at SHARE, WAVV, and System z Expo, I recommend 
that if you have in-house UNIX/Linux expertise (and not just in system 
administration, but security and so on), that you work together with them.  And 
not just you do this, we'll do that, but actually work together.  
Cross-discipline knowledge transfer generates a number of benefits, greater 
teamwork among them.  When you're working in a really complex environment, 
involving mainframe hardware, z/OS, z/VM, and Linux, I don't think any one 
group is going to be able to work effectively in isolation.


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Re: Support Model for Linux on System z

2008-04-23 Thread Frank Lawrence
Thanks, Mark.

In those situations where folks are working together as a cooperative team, 
can you comment on what kind of maintenance strategy they have adopted?  
More specifically, have they tried to adopt an aggreesive preventative 
program or have they only deployed fixes on servers where specific problems 
have surfaced? 

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in 
three libraries.

Of course all three are link listed libraries. 

Are you applying maintenance to a live system?
Not a good thing!

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
I give you a minor slap on your fingers.  g

I add DD names to the SMPE JCL to point to the new temporary copies of the
libraries.  Then apply the maintenance to the temporary libraries.

When that is finished, I will compress the temporary libraries, then first
try to copy them to the real ones.  This sometimes works better if I empty
the real libraries first, then compress them also.

All this assumes that I'm using indirect volume addressing through the
catalog and have SMPE pointing directly to an alternate copy of the
libraries on another volume.

I also run SMPE APPLY function with the COMPRESS(ALL) option, which causes
it to delete all members being changed from the library, then compress the
library before applying the maintenance.

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:29:00 -0500, Bobbie Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

okay, consider your virtual fingers slapped.

hopefully the applying maintenance is being done to an alternate sysres, and
the real live datasets are cataloged using SYSR1, etc. .

allocate .NEW libraries on the alt sysres larger
copy contents of Current on the alt sysres to NEW
rename 'CURRENT (on the alt sysres) to .OLD (see rename dataset in use
option from another poster)
rename .NEW (on the alt sysres) to CURRENT

re-run your apply.

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Jerry Fuchs
No I am not applying to the active system. Could be a career decision!

Will give applying maintenance to a temporary library then copying back 
into the original.





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I give you a minor slap on your fingers.  g

I add DD names to the SMPE JCL to point to the new temporary copies of the
libraries.  Then apply the maintenance to the temporary libraries.

When that is finished, I will compress the temporary libraries, then first
try to copy them to the real ones.  This sometimes works better if I empty
the real libraries first, then compress them also.

All this assumes that I'm using indirect volume addressing through the
catalog and have SMPE pointing directly to an alternate copy of the
libraries on another volume.

I also run SMPE APPLY function with the COMPRESS(ALL) option, which causes
it to delete all members being changed from the library, then compress the
library before applying the maintenance.

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:29:00 -0500, Bobbie Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

okay, consider your virtual fingers slapped.

hopefully the applying maintenance is being done to an alternate sysres, 
and
the real live datasets are cataloged using SYSR1, etc. .

allocate .NEW libraries on the alt sysres larger
copy contents of Current on the alt sysres to NEW
rename 'CURRENT (on the alt sysres) to .OLD (see rename dataset in use
option from another poster)
rename .NEW (on the alt sysres) to CURRENT

re-run your apply.

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Imbriale, Donald
I've never seen anything that says COMPRESS(ALL) will delete members
being changed.  The Commands manual states only:

  If you specify ALL, any libraries in which elements will be
  installed by this APPLY command are compressed.

Can you provide a reference in one of the manuals that indicates the
members will be deleted before compress?

Don Imbriale

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I also run SMPE APPLY function with the COMPRESS(ALL) option, which
causes
it to delete all members being changed from the library, then compress
the
library before applying the maintenance.




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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Imbriale, Donald
Ignore my post.  Further research shows that it does delete members
before compress under some circumstances.  Sorry for the interruption.

Don Imbriale


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I've never seen anything that says COMPRESS(ALL) will delete members
being changed.  The Commands manual states only:

  If you specify ALL, any libraries in which elements will be
  installed by this APPLY command are compressed.

Can you provide a reference in one of the manuals that indicates the
members will be deleted before compress?

Don Imbriale

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I also run SMPE APPLY function with the COMPRESS(ALL) option, which
causes
it to delete all members being changed from the library, then compress
the
library before applying the maintenance.




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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Rugen, Len
I was going to say that it doesn't matter if it's in the manual, the
report shows it does it :-)

Also RETRY(YES) can save your backside at times.  RETRY and COMPRESS
together can cause multiple compresses during the APPLY job.  

(Syntax from memory)


Len Rugen

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practice, there is. 
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Ignore my post.  Further research shows that it does delete members
before compress under some circumstances.  Sorry for the interruption.

Don Imbriale

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Re: Support Model for Linux on System z

2008-04-23 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Frank - our approach is that the mainframe support team will add z/VM 
support to their existing z/OS responsibilities along with bringing in one 
new sysprog with z/vm experience. The aix/unix team wasn't interested as 
they were already overworked and understaffed so we've created a new linux 
team. for system level security the support teams (mainframe and linux) 
will be responsible as only sysprogs/sysadmins will have direct access. 
User access will be at the application level and will continue to be 
controlled by our security team. 

For provisioning a new guest it will be a combined effort with the 
mainframe team responsible for the actual provisioning (using Rocket 
Software's Provisioning Expert for Linux aka PEL) with the Linux team 
supporting and maintaining the PEL base systems that are the basis for the 
cloning. During operation, should issues arise, the respective teams will 
provide support as appropriate. 

The mainframe team is responsible for the storage which is still FICON 
attached (no plans for fibre at this time) at least from the storage 
subsystem perspective. We are using Dirmaint for the allocation of space 
management and for backup our plans are to use FDR/UpStream at the Linux 
file system level and using FlashCopy combined with z/OS DF/DSS for the 
entire volume pool. 

For overall capacity and performance out existing performance and capacity 
team is involved (using Velocity Softwares ESALPS). We are also using the 
ESALPS to generate alerts based upon various performance indicators that 
it monitors with the alerts going into our normal Tivoli Enterprise 
Console alert system and then off to our problem tracking system. 

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Re: Moving DASD Volumes from Mod3 to Mod9

2008-04-23 Thread gsg
We did a migration from a EMC 8830 to a EMC DMX-3 using TDMF and it went 
very smoothly.  Although you cannot go 3 to 1, you can go 1 to 1 then 
disable 1/3 of the volumes and use DFDSS to move whatever you can.  You 
can then move the rest during your maintenance window, if you have one.  
The one thing I liked about TDMF was that it would resize your VTOC for you.

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Matthew Stitt
Both options can also be specified as part of the GOPTS in the zones.

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:13:01 -0500, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was going to say that it doesn't matter if it's in the manual, the
report shows it does it :-)

Also RETRY(YES) can save your backside at times.  RETRY and COMPRESS
together can cause multiple compresses during the APPLY job.

(Syntax from memory)


Len Rugen

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practice, there is.
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Ignore my post.  Further research shows that it does delete members
before compress under some circumstances.  Sorry for the interruption.

Don Imbriale


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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:00:40 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:27:34 -0400, Jerry Fuchs wrote:

I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in
three libraries.

Of course all three are link listed libraries.

I can allocate .NEW libraries and copy into them, but how do I then rename
them to the original name?

I assume that you are not applying maintenance on the live system.

If you have the proper authority, you can rename a data set even though
there is an ENQ on that DSNAME.  ISPF allows this.  For the required 
authority,
see
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2s341/2.6.3.4


If you're just trying to get past the enqueue and are not updating a running 
system, then you can stop LLA, unallocate LINKLIST and do whatever you 
want to with the libraries. I usually do this while I'm working on our tech 
LPAR 
to expand linklisted libraries getting them ready to migrate to production 
volumes. I wouldn't do this when your system is real busy and be careful.

I didn't know you could have authority to change a dataset while an enqueue 
is held though. That is probably a better and safer route. I'm going to check 
into that.

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Re: ioajava.jar

2008-04-23 Thread Mansell, George R.
Thanks.
I am up. I was entering java ioajava.jar, too much information.
Java ioajava comes right up. 

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Nothing in there but the ioajava.jar file.  With classnotfound error
something may still be wrong with your CLASSPATH statement.  You
probably have this redbook, think it's the latest OSA guide -
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245948.html



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I upgraded to java 1.6.0._5 and changed path statements. It looks like I
am finding javx/help but I still have ClassNotFoundExecption. Is there
anything else in your \osa?


I had this problem just this week.  Turned out to be that java couldn't
find the help directory in the CLASSPATH statement.
CLASSPATH=.;C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\jh2.0\javahelp\lib\jh.jar;C:\osa\ioajava.jar

Also put added java to the PATH statement.
Path=C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Utilities;C...;C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05

JP



I am getting java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/help/HelpsSet
I did install javahelp 2.0
The javax/help does not have a HelpSet sub directory.
CLASSPATH :
C:\Program Files\IBM\Java142\IOAJAVA.jar;
C:\jh2.0\javahelp\bin\jhindexer.jar;
C:\jh2.0\javahelp\bin\jhsearch.jar;
C:\jh2.0\javahelp\lib\jsearch.jar;
C:\jh2.0\javahelp\lib\jh.jar
JHHOME:
C:\jh2.0
I need to change a mac for use with sna and the Rexx is working but this
may
be a better way.
Thanks

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:13:01 -0500, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I was going to say that it doesn't matter if it's in the manual, the
report shows it does it :-)

Also RETRY(YES) can save your backside at times.  RETRY and COMPRESS
together can cause multiple compresses during the APPLY job.

(Syntax from memory)



And SMP/E will even de-batch updates to one at a time to a particular
library (along with multiple compresses) in order to try and get the step
to run to successful completion. 

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Linda Mooney
Hey, Jerry - 

For my 2 cents, this is what I do.  I am aware that there are other methods, 
but I find this easy and safe.  It works for me. 

My running res volumes ALWAYS have the same names, and my maintenance res 
volumes that I am building ALWAYS have the same names.  My SMP/e DD DEFS ALWAYS 
have the volsers of the maint res volumes coded. I code DD DEFS for all 
datasets and all paths needed.  I copy the running root to a new root and mount 
it /service/test. Our USS is very simple - we only run the HTTP server, no WAS, 
no DB2, no JAVA applications - so this may need to be different for you.  I use 
indirect cataloging for the running res volumes.  I NEVER apply any updates to 
my running system and I always take a backup of my SMP/e environment as needed. 
 

When I get a 37 that SMP/e does not resolve, I clean the library up outside of 
SMP/e.  Be very careful to code volser and unit.  I code the unit address and 
the volser;  less opportunity for finger checks that way.  As long as the maint 
dataset stays on the same volser the indirect cataloging will be okay.  If you 
have to change volumes, you will have to redo the indirect cataloging for that 
dataset.  For linklst datasets, be sure to keep a 0 secondary.  

This method lets you completely avoid the renaming/copying.  

In order to implement maint, I clip the res volumes so that the maint res 
volumes get the production res volume volsers, update BPXPRM00 with the new 
root and IPL.  

Linda Mooney
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From: Jerry Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I am trying to apply maintenance to z/OS 1.7 but received a D37-04 in 
 three libraries. 
 
 Of course all three are link listed libraries. 
 
 I can allocate .NEW libraries and copy into them, but how do I then rename 
 them to the original name? 
 
 Thanks 
 
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IMS 5 and z/OS 1.9?

2008-04-23 Thread Shahnaz
 
  I know that this is rather un-usual combination . but currently we have 
an old application under IMS 5 that runs OK under z/OS 1.7. The chances of 
upgaring IMS is slim to none. So, we just have to get the data and somehow make 
it available to the user. While that is happening, we want to upgrade to z/OS 
1.9. Just wondering if anyone would know (or can guess) if IMS 5 will continue 
to run under z/OS 1.9 (on a z9 BC machine). 
   
  Thanks 

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Re: Formdef W/OVROTATE

2008-04-23 Thread Roger Bolan
Here's a link for information: 
http://www.infoprintsolutionscompany.com/internet/wwsites.nsf/vwwebpublished/ppfasupt_ww

In the User's Guide, from looking at the railroad syntax diagrams, it 
looks like OVERLAY with OVROTATE can only be a subcommand on the FORMDEF 
N_UP, COPYGROUP N_UP, FORMDEF PLACE, PRINTLINE, LAYOUT or XLAYOUT 
commands. 

Roger Bolan
Software Engineer
infoprint.com

Boulder, Colorado, USA 


P Think before you print 

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/22/2008 
12:42:52 PM:

 Hello All, I am trying to get my overly to be rotated. The way I 
 interpret the PPFA users guide this should work, but I get the error
 that I pasted at the bottom of the page. Any help is appreciate. 
 
 Thanks Matt
 
 SETUNITS   1 PELS 1 PELS LINESP 8 LPI ; 
 FORMDEFL6500 
REPLACE YES 
PRESENT LANDSCAPE DIRECTION ACROSS 
OFFSET 00 PELS 00 PELS ; 
OVERLAY PERF OVROTATE 90; 
SUBGROUP OVERLAY PERF ; 
 /* 
 // 
 
 PAGE PRINTER FORMATTING AID/390(PK38127)  
 DIAGNOSTIC MESSAGE LIST  
   CODE  LINE  DESCRIPTION  
 AKQ103E   6  INVALID SUBCOMMAND OVROTATE IS SPECIFIED.  
 AKQ313E  FORMDEF F1L6500  IS NOT GENERATED. MAX RETURN CODE 
= 
 AKQ301I  PAGE PRINTER FORMATTING AID ENDED, MAX RETURN 
 CODE = 
 
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Explaining the New IBM Getting Started WebSphere Pricing Announcement

2008-04-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
I thought I'd try to perform a public service to help educate everyone on
IBM's new pricing announcement on April 22, 2008. (Demystifying software
pricing seems to be one of my unofficial missions in life.) First, the
headline: this announcement is *unambiguously good news* for customers:
nobody pays more, and many customers pay less. Quite simply IBM is making
it even more financially attractive to start new projects with WebSphere
products for z/OS. IBM is very directly responding to many of you who did
not want to create and manage separate WebSphere LPARs for whatever
reason(s).

Here's the link to the announcement:

http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/8/897/ENUS208-088/ENUS208088.PDF

Here's my personal take. The pricing announcement affects the following
WebSphere products for z/OS:

WebSphere Application Server
WebSphere Process Server
WebSphere Enterprise Service Bus
WebSphere Service Registry and Repository
WebSphere Business Service Fabric
WebSphere Transformation Extender
WebSphere Message Broker

and IBM expects to add these two products as well:

WebSphere Portal Enable
WebSphere Extended Deployment

The announcement is exclusively for z/OS customers, not for any other
platforms. All these products are licensed under the IBM International
Program License Agreement (IPLA), and they are also known colloquially as
One-Time Charge (OTC) software products. That means when you buy a license
you own that license in perpetuity for that version (at a specific
quantity). You can also buy optional subscription and support (SS)
annually; you buy the first year via another part number together with your
initial license. Almost everyone does by SS, because as long as you
maintain continuous SS you receive new versions as they are introduced at
no additional charge. If you let your subscription lapse for whatever
reason it costs more to reinstate subscription. Most IBM mainframe software
products are licensed under IPLA terms.

What's changing now is how IBM measures the quantity you must order if you
want to license and use these products. Now, I'm going to assume here you
are a sub-capacity Variable Workload License Charge (VWLC) customer sending
in your Sub-Capacity Reporting Tool (SCRT) reports each month. I don't
think this pricing announcement affects you at all unless you are sending
SCRT reports to IBM.

IPLA software is priced and licensed according to Value Units (VUs). VUs
are calculated directly from MSUs, the common standard for measuring
software capacity which you all probably know very well. There is a formula
to convert MSUs to VUs (called a Value Unit Exhibit). You can find the VU
Exhibit in every IPLA software product announcement letter. I think all of
the WebSphere products listed above are licensed according to VUE007 (Value
Unit Exhibit 7). In VUE007 up to 3 MSUs equates to 1 Value Unit, for
example. Value Unit exhibits serve one major purpose: they introduce a
volume discount schedule while allowing IBM to publish one price (the price
per Value Unit). The Value Unit exhibit means that the more MSUs you buy,
the less each additional MSU costs. However, as I've mentioned many times,
the minimum order quantity is only 1 Value Unit. So for a small project (or
a small mainframe) these IPLA products are aggressively priced. On every
other processor (such as X86) the minimum order quantity is 100 Value
Units, and more realistically 400+ for any real-world implementation. Those
X86 Value Units are calculated differently, but there is a gaping price
difference (in the mainframe's favor) between 1 mainframe Value Unit and
even 100 X86 Value Units. From an IPLA WebSphere point of view the
mainframe quite simply scales *down* in price better than any other
platform, and that's a surprise to a lot of people.

Just as any other z/OS software, what counts is your peak 4 hour rolling
average of MSUs. For IPLA software that's the aggregate peak across your
enterprise (across multiple machines if you have more than one) and at any
time. For example, if you have two machines, and one machine peaks at 3
MSUs and the other at 2 MSUs, you will need 5 MSUs (translated to VUs) of
IPLA software. It does not matter whether the machines are in a Parallel
Sysplex or not for IPLA: you always use a single Value Unit Exhibit, per
product, across your enterprise.

Now you do not get the benefit of any workload troughs with IPLA. (Sorry
about that. That's one advantage to MLC.) If you peak at 5 MSUs in January,
and then you drop down to 3 MSUs in February, then back up to 5 MSUs in
March, you still need 5 MSUs. You have to license enough MSUs (Value Units)
to cover your highest peak, before you reach the peak. If you only need
that higher peak for a short time (a few days), you can purchase MSU-days
of IPLA software from IBM. Typically you might do that with temporary
Capacity On Demand activations. If you inadvertantly shoot past your peak
(for the license quantity you have), send IBM an order for more as fast as

DIGEST

2008-04-23 Thread Rob Weiss
DIGEST

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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Jerry,

I use this JCL. It does require the BYPASSSNQ APF authourized program from 
the Free Software written by Gilbert Saint-Flour available on CBT file 183.

BYPASSNQ  Assembler program.  Scratch or Rename a Data Set
   without SYSDSN ENQ

   BYPASSNQ is a driver that allows you to run any
   utility program (such as IEHPROGM or IDCAMS) and
   bypass dsname ENQ that is normally performed by
   the DYNALLOC, SCRATCH and RENAME SVCs.
   This technique allows data sets to be deleted or
   renamed using standard MVS services and is fully
   compatible with indexed VTOCs and SMS.

Regards
Bruce Hewson

Set the Variables to required values, and do C ALL 'SYSRES' 'your_volser'

//SYDBHBIG JOB (ACCT#),'Enlarge APPC.ISPCLIB',
// CLASS=A,   
// MSGCLASS=X,
// NOTIFY=SYSUID 
//*   
//*--*
//* Make dataset single extent.  *
//*--*
//* Tracks %   XT Device  Dsorg Recfm Lrecl Blksz 
//* --
//* SYS1.DATASET  
//*   450   9   1 3390 PO   FB   80 10720 
//* --
//*   
// SET PRIMSPC=450
// SET  SECSPC=15 
// SET SPCUNIT=TRK
// SET DIRBLKS=90 
//*   
// SET  RECFMT=FB 
// SET  RECLEN=80 
// SET  BLKSIZ=10720  
//*   
//*   
//*
*  
//* Allocate dataset large enough for all data within a single extent 
//*
*  
//*   
//*   
//DEFINE EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 
//NEWDSN   DD DISP=(NEW,KEEP),
//DSN=SYS1.DATASET.BIGGER,
//UNIT=3390,  
//VOL=SER=SYSRES, 
//SPACE=(SPCUNIT,(PRIMSPC,SECSPC,DIRBLKS)),   
//RECFM=RECFMT,  
//LRECL=RECLEN,  
//BLKSIZE=BLKSIZ 
//*   
//*   
//*   
//COPY EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,COND=(0,NE,DEFINE)
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*   
//SYSUT1   DD  DISP=SHR,  
// UNIT=3390, 
// VOL=SER=SYSRES,
// DSN=SYS1.DATASET   
//SYSUT2   DD  DISP=SHR,  
// UNIT=3390, 
// VOL=SER=SYSRES,
// DSN=SYS1.DATASET.BIGGER
//SYSINDD *  
  COPY INDD=SYSUT1,OUTDD=SYSUT2  
/*   
//*  
//*
* 
//* Delete dataset - 

Re: Moving DASD Volumes from Mod3 to Mod9

2008-04-23 Thread Tommy Tsui
have you compared the performance between FDRMOVE with TDMF, which one is
better?
how can you move the file extend with multiple volumes, (SYSDA,16)...


On 4/24/08, gsg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We did a migration from a EMC 8830 to a EMC DMX-3 using TDMF and it went
 very smoothly.  Although you cannot go 3 to 1, you can go 1 to 1 then
 disable 1/3 of the volumes and use DFDSS to move whatever you can.  You
 can then move the rest during your maintenance window, if you have one.
 The one thing I liked about TDMF was that it would resize your VTOC for
 you.

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Re: Websphere MQ Monitoring Tool

2008-04-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
The OMEGAMON for MQ product is now called Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for Messaging,
in case anybody is confused. It's Messaging because the same monitor now
handles both MQ and Message Broker.

There are many others. In addition to the aforementioned ASG-TMON for MQ
and Q Pasa! there's also BMC MAINVIEW for MQ, and I think CA's is called
Unicenter SYSVIEW for MQ (approximately). That's 5 choices, and there might
be more.

- - - - -
Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z
Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific
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Re: Help with applying maintenance

2008-04-23 Thread Tommy Tsui
* I think you are applied to target libraries but the target libraries name
should not be same as your current use one.  I always put prefix
os17m.sys1.linklib' instead of sys1.linklib

I always use PDSCLEAR to clear the target library and copy it again. It
ususally works and safely except your target library define sextremely
small.

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